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June 6, 2024 49 mins

In this episode, Tudor and her crew, including Kyle, Sara, and Esteban, engage in a lively discussion about the impact of government policies on public health and the economy. They explore the potential link between energy drinks and cancer, share a disturbing story about a moldy energy drink, and express concerns over processed foods and the FDA's regulatory effectiveness. The conversation shifts to the economic challenges in Michigan, criticizing Governor Whitmer's focus on international travel over job creation, and contrasting her with Tennessee's proactive approach under Governor Lee. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. It's Thursday, and that
means that we have our whole crew here with us today.
So we have Kyle, Sarah Astaban, and me and we
wanted to go through some kind of news of the
day stories and just get everybody's take. Again. I love
doing this because we have three different generations represented, so
we get to have everybody's different opinion on how things

(00:24):
are going. And the story I chose is looks like
it's a cancer story, which I recognize that I talk
about cancer a lot because obviously I've had cancer. But
I picked this one because do you remember a few
weeks ago when we were in the office and Asketeban
drank as elsius it had I'd prefer not to remember so,

(00:48):
but you said it was cracked, right.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
The can was cracked, and it was there was a
giant glob of like mold and gross stuff and I
drank it and then I spit it out into a
cup and then showed us and then I had to
do like a little show.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
And I've literally not had a Celsius since then. I
had two left in my fridge, and the fridge.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I know, and we shouldn't, I mean, so this is
not a knock against Celsius. We do think it was cracked,
so that it was not their fault. It was that
the can was open. However, it has horrified me because
of the slime like gel thing that came out of
that can. Anyway, so I decided that I would talk
to you more about energy drinks because I saw this

(01:32):
article in the Daily Mail that they these researchers now
believe that the colon cancer crisis in young people, which
is it is? I mean, even if you look at
rates in Michigan, they've increased significantly. Researchers are saying that
they've had an increase in colon cancer that is like

(01:54):
in young people under fifty, that is out of this world.
It's up. Says that it's up twenty percent in cases
of people under fifty. And so I just went through
this with a friend of mine here in Michigan who
had colon cancer under fifty. And I keep hearing talk
of colon cancer and they're screening younger. But I started thinking,

(02:17):
like all these podcasts that we do about food and
what we're eating, and how is that actually contributing to
cancers that are essentially an area where what you eat
is going right through that section of your body. And
so this study came out saying that researchers believe that
it's this taurine. I think that's how you say it,

(02:39):
that's in energy drinks could be causing colon cancer and
young people. And these young people they're drinking Red Bull,
they're drinking Celsius, they're drinking Monster. And I don't think
it's because they're cancer cracked like estemons, but I think
that there is a huge chance that what we're eating
every day is causing these cancer and so they are

(03:02):
actually they're going to be doing more research on this sore,
and I don't think i'd want to be a part
of the study. It's like they are going to take
people who had a healthy gut and give them they'll
have a control every and then the other people will
drink the different energy drinks and see what there happens
in their gut because they believe that it is like

(03:23):
what is changing in your gut because of energy drinks
that is causing this callon cancer increase. And we now
know that one in three Americans are consuming energy drinks
every day. Then it freaks me out because I don't
know if you guys remember, but just a few weeks ago,
one of the kids in our high school that had
just graduated from our high school died. In the story

(03:44):
that we got from the girls, which of course I'm
getting this from the kids, but they said that he
had a heart condition and wouldn't stop drinking energy drinks
and then drank an energy drink and essentially went into
cardiac arrest. The energy drinks just like they're causing all
kinds of problems. But I think that in general, what
we're eating is way different than what our parents and

(04:07):
our grandparents were eating.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I was remember last year when Celsius. I feel like
Celsius hit a boom last year, and maybe it's just
I noticed it more because we were on the campaign,
and I feel like that's the first time I was
really drinking it, like excess it way too yeah, which
was not good. But there was this period where it
came out and people were talking about there was a
TikTok trend that said Celsius is the new ozempic, and

(04:29):
so everybody was drinking it because they thought, oh, it's
this energy drink that also will cause you to lose
weight because of whatever the ingredients were in it, and
I just think, Okay, well, ozempic now is out there too,
saying that it might cause thyroid cancer. I'm like, every
little quick fix that Americans specifically try to do turns
out something is cancerous.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
And I wonder what are we actually eating because like
the super Size Me guy who just died of cancer,
and they say that it wasn't connected to him eating McDonald's.
But I mean, it's not like you can come out
and say that or McDonald's would go bananas. But I
think about, gosh, this is a guy who ate McDonald's
every day for a year and then pretty young. Was
he fifty six or fifty three when he died of cancer.

(05:11):
I you see cancer more and more. And I know
this because when I went to the hospital for my
own cancer at thirty eight, they were like, do you
have breast cancer an your family? No, there's no history
of breast cancer. Have you done this? Have you or
are you a smoker? Or do you drink heavily? None
of those things. And they're like, yeah, we just keep
seeing breast cancer younger and younger. And I really am

(05:32):
kind of on this mission and I'm not good at
this mission either of figuring out like how how to
eat fewer processed foods. The girls we were talking about
this the other day and Bonnie said to me, well,
why would processed foods be any different than regular foods.
It's like they don't even comprehend what they're eating is
all processed food. And I don't think even adults comprehend.

(05:54):
I think we're so used to that quick fix and
just throwing everything into a lunch box and going to
the local fast food place and just eating this food,
not thinking about how it's made, or what's in it,
or what even the fruits and vegetables have chemicals in them.
I know I sound crazy, but it has been like

(06:15):
go it has been bothering me for over a year now,
and then I see this and I think, how many
times do I just drink something or eat something I
think it's benign and it's not.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Don't you think this sort of research would be done
first before these products are released?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
That see, that's where I think we mistakingly believe we're safe.
And that's where I think in the United States a
lot more is we think, because we have the FDA,
that we're safe, but a lot more is let through.
If you just look at us compared to Europe. They
don't have nearly the chemicals in their food that we have,
and they don't allow the food dies that we have.

(06:54):
And there's been a lot of research done on these
food dyes that they're causing all kinds of behavioral problems.
But instead, I this is going to sound conspiratorial, but
I believe that big pharma and big food are causing
massive health problems in this country, and the big lobbyists
don't like to say anything because it brings them in
a ton of money, because as long as you keep

(07:14):
people on healthy, then you have to get on healthcare.
And then you get the Democrats saying, well, we should
all be paying for health care. I mean, it is
a huge problem. But why are we as Americans accepting
that Europe is much more careful with what they're ingesting
into their own bodies? And to your point, Kyle, I
think I have blindly felt like it was safe because

(07:37):
of the FDA, and now you see studies like this
and exactly I'm like, well, how'd you figure this out? Now?

Speaker 4 (07:44):
So do you think the FDA should be doing more
or is it incumbent upon these companies to make sure
that their product is safe.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I think that if you have, I mean, that's the
purpose of the FDA. And I do think that there
are government agencies that have a purpose that is good.
And when your purpose is to keep people safe, that's
a good purpose. And the fact that I don't think
the FDA has become a place where the lobbyists control
it instead of it actually doing its job of keeping

(08:16):
people safe anymore. So my concern is that, yeah, I
do think they should be stepping in and saying, Okay,
this shouldn't be legal because we know it's causing massive
health problems, and health problems are causing a huge strain
on society and taxes and everything. I mean, if you
look at the problems with health are causing so many

(08:40):
financial problems for this country. And like I said, you
get the Democrats who are saying, now, let's put more
money into healthcare. The FDA should be trying to prevent
unnecessary health problems. These are unnecessary health problems because a
company decides to go out, they're making a massive amount
of money. I mean, you talk about this rise in Celsius,
and I think if you look at all of these

(09:02):
companies that get some TikTok influencer or Instagram person to
come out. I mean, if you hear, oh, I don't
have to pay for ozempic, I can just go get Celsius.
You're going to buy it in masks.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I mean called like the five dollars ozempic. That's what
people were billing it as. And so that's I mean,
we've had Calli Means on this podcast before and he
talks about Coca Cola and all of the lobbyists that
they use to get their will essentially through to say, oh,
just look past all of these things. Use our studies,
not these studies. But it's funny because it used to
be the argument was that healthy food was more expensive,

(09:36):
and I feel like now even fast food is in
some ways more expensive after all of COVID and all
of the economic issues that Biden has had. So you're
kind of in this weird dilemma now where eating at home,
where you could potentially try to at least eat healthier,
is cheaper than going to fast food. But yet to
your point, all of the food now is somehow infected

(09:57):
with whatever it is, pesticides or process foods.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
So a part of this was talking about how dangerous
a part of these articles that I pulled some of
them were one was the Daily Mail and there was
another one from the Detroit News, but it was just
talking about how incredibly dangerous obesity is and how many
cancers come from obesity and I mean diabetes, cancer, all

(10:23):
of these things from the fact that we have a
very obese society and here we are just glorifying, you know,
body positivity and being as big as you want and
having these television shows where it's like my thousand pound life.
And I mean, I don't know if the people are
attracted to that, because it's like looking in on an anomaly,

(10:45):
but it's not anymore because it's causing people to think that, well,
I can gain a little bit more weight. I mean,
even the guy that we are hoping to have on
the podcast talks about a restaurant where if you weigh
three hundred pounds you get your meal for free. I mean,
it's like a motivator to get to become overweight. And
I do think it is incredibly hard, with what we're

(11:06):
eating on a daily basis, not to be overweight. And
I look at so even if we talk about the
FDA even if you look at us compared to European countries.
I do believe that if the FDA is not going
to regulate the things that are in our food that
are making us unhealthy that we don't know about, then
what is the point of the FDA. Because you don't

(11:28):
see this a massive amount of people overweight in Europe.
You don't see a massive amount of people overweight in China.
In Japan, we are the fattest country in the world,
and we are buying food that is supposedly going through
a process that says, yes, this is safe. However, I
have to believe that it's not just because of American

(11:49):
portion sizes. It's I do believe there's something in our
food that we're eating that is making us unhealthy. I mean,
I've talked about you look at it kids in school
today as compared to when we were in school, and
you know, there's always somebody in school when you're a
kid that is struggling with weight, but it's almost the

(12:10):
norm now rather than the one or two kids that
have an issue that they're struggling with. And I just think,
how do we get to this point?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I'm gonna also jump on the conspiracy theory train. But
at the movie Wally, do you remember when that came
out and it was this massively obese society that just
sat in chairs and looked at screens all day. And
I remember when I watched it, whatever it came out
ten years ago, I was like, that's what we're gonna
end up being.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
And I genuinely think.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
That's like the goal is we get every We're going
to export everything from other countries, and we're all just
going to sit on our devices. No one's going to
talk to anyone anymore, and no one's gonna be physically active.
And that's just Wally is our future. I think if
we continue on.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
This path asta fun. You've talked about screens before and
putting things out there. Do you feel like in your
high school like you grew up with screens, none of
us really did. Do you feel like it changed the
way kids were active?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I mean, my school was really weird because we didn't
have a gym. We were literally a tiny room of
a school, so we had no gym. Most of our
classes were through a computer. We had most of our
assignments on a computer, so everything that we were assigned
for homework required us to sit in front of a computer.
But I think that generally speaking, my school was perfectly

(13:40):
fine with balancing being in front of a screen, having
to sit and do your assignments, and also having a life.
I think most of my friends and people who went
to that school weren't necessarily just sitting in a basement
snacking on potato chips and watching some I don't know

(14:00):
what a popular show was, Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
You know, gosh, I hope you weren't watching that in
high school. I was like, whoa, that's all time.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I mean, in high school they watched a lot of
worse stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, all right, Well I learned something else that is
now disturbing me.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
But I do think that's interesting though, because you talk
about it in the sense that like we always just
think it's like people sitting in their basements eating potato chips,
but it's not, actually, I mean, it's genuinely like just
our food system now is so screwed up.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I know, I was reading something that it is. It's like,
don't ever buy bread at the grocery store. I always
make your own bread. And I'm like, you know, you
talk about your grandparents being farmers, and I think that
lifestyle was such that you were farming, but you were
still at home, so there was a way to go
from kitchen to farm and kitchen to farm and constantly

(14:49):
kind of be tending to what the food was going
to be for the day. And we've created a lifestyle
where both parents are out of the house, you're getting
home right at dinner time, and you're trying to come
up with something in a thirty minute meal. I mean,
think about it. Rachel raised thirty minute meals, you know,
And I'm like, how, I'm not Rachel Ray. I always

(15:09):
wanted to be, but I'm not. I'm more of the
lady who uses like half of the processed food. There
is another one where she like used half processed food
and then made it. I'm like, oh, maybe I can
handle that. I don't know. I just think it's a
very tough situation. And I think that as we see
cancer rates rise, no one is sounding the alarm. You

(15:31):
see an article here or there, But I go back
to the FDA if they're doing their jobs and they
see a massive I mean, you, Kyle, have been involved
in like the political government world for a long time.
What is your opinion, because if you're the FDA, and
you see cancer rates rising in people under fifty at

(15:52):
rates we've never seen before in just the last ten years.
Do you not say, I mean, is there no alarm
sounding there? Like, Okay, we got to do some research.
We spend billions of dollars on research on whether or
not rats can be gay, but we don't check to
see why we're getting cancer.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Maybe it's because of the processed food. Well, there's two
There's two things. One is I think that I think
that these agencies have to a big extent been overtaken
by lobbyists and these different interests, whether it's corporate interests

(16:34):
or it's the anti corporate interests. But then I think too,
if they do say there is a major problem, the
natural question is, well, why didn't you see this before?
And so I think a lot of these agencies are
sort of in a in a position where they don't
want to admit that that, you know, they screwed things up,

(16:55):
or they were asleep at the switch or whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Look at, not to change the subject here, but look
at I've seen several videos lately of Anthony Fauci conflicting
with Anthony Fauci about Mass or about distancing or whatever
it is. And you know, and to see these stories
about the amount, the hundreds of millions of dollars that
his agency received in royalties, why is there not a

(17:24):
hearing about that? And asking is it possible that you
would have a conflict of interest if your agency is
accepting royalties from drug companies and these companies that you
have authority over. And so I think what it shows
is that there is a lot of there's a lot
of conflicts going on in the federal government and state

(17:47):
governments that are just sort of ignored. And I think
we as a society again looking at what happened with
compliance during the virus and if you if anyone question
Shan Anthony Fauci about Mass And even then people were saying,
you're saying different things here. If you posted that on

(18:09):
Facebook or you you know, were an elected official and
you were criticizing him, I mean, it was like you
wanted people to die.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
See, I'm in this mode. We've been studying American history
or geography, I guess, and like how the American government
works in seventh grade this week, and it's been a
struggle for me as we've studied this because like she's
learning about checks and balances, right, and this is exactly

(18:37):
what I mean what you're saying. Obviously we think of
the checks of balances on the three branches of government,
but these are new, Like this is the bureaucracy that
people don't understand, and this is where how can he
bring money into his agency by guidance that he puts
out that it disrupts the entire country and ultimately the

(19:00):
entire world, because it disrupted the entire economy of our country,
which disrupted the entire world. And as you say, if
you say anything about it, you are demonized. And I've
had so many people come to me and be like,
you know, run for office again, and why aren't more
people running for office? And how can the regular person
run for office? And you know, as we're studying this

(19:21):
and she's talking about the wealthy in the United States
of America and how does the one percent affect the
rest of the country, I was looking at this and
I'm thinking, I mean, look at the people who have
run for major offices. You now have to be uber rich.
And those uber rich people have used lobbyists for years

(19:42):
to impact how government interacts with society and businesses, and
they and businesses get government to bend to their will,
and then more people have to go to their businesses.
I mean, just look on both sides. You've got rich
person after rich person in the few people that started
in government that weren't rich have become rich by being

(20:03):
in government. And it makes no sense. And so people
are like, oh, you know, why don't you why even
here's an example after our race, Why didn't you fight?
Why don't you see I'm like, I mean, I'm not
a billionaire. What do you expect? Like, people don't understand
how expensive this process is, and the richest person ultimately
wins out on this scenario. When you talk about these regulations,

(20:30):
that's another thing that I mean, we weren't going to
talk about this, but I see liberal Democrats constantly saying
all of Trump is removing all these regulations, all these
environmental regulations. A lot of these regulations are big companies,
very rich people who lobbied to get these regulations in

(20:50):
not because they were safer for you and me, but
because their company was going to make a ton of
money if they could keep the little guy out of it.
And if you are a little guy, you can't achieve
these regulations. So you've got states like Michigan where the
regulations are so high now the barrier to entry for
new businesses is so great. We have no businesses coming here.

(21:10):
We've no businesses starting here, and no businesses that want
to come to the state of Michigan because the over
regulation in the state is so bad. It's not only
bad in the business arena, I mean energy affects business.
They're out of control on energy. They want to get
rid of any type of energy, which is your greatest
form of security that you live with, because if you

(21:32):
can't have heat in your home, you have no security whatsoever.
So they want to make energy almost unattainable in this state.
And then you look at even hunting. The regulations on
hunters are so out of control. We could actually pay
most of our taxes on that industry alone if we
were able to bring tourists into the state. We've overregulated

(21:53):
the industry to the point where we can't even get
somebody to come to the state to enjoy the state,
let alone live in the state. Which kind of takes
me to your story, which Nashville is booming right now.
They have a mass amount of people coming to Tennessee,
and Gretchen Witmer is applying for federal aid to try
to get people here.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Right, So there's a story in the Daily Mail about
Nashville is adding almost one hundred people a day to
its population, and of course the locals are you know,
complaining about that because that changes the makeup and the
you know, culture and the dynamics of their community. And so,
you know, I think those are valid, you know, valid issues.

(22:36):
But what it shows is, according to the to the data, Tennessee,
their population has grown over one percent from twenty twenty
two to twenty twenty three. And then you look at
states like Michigan. Our governor's strategy because the population now
is there's more people dying that are being born in

(22:57):
the state of Michigan. Her strategy now is let's have
let's have immigrants and migrants come in to grow the population.
And the question is, you know, how does that change
the character and the culture. And I'm not talking race
and all of that, so people can just calm down,

(23:18):
But the point is, how when you've got language barriers,
when you have income barriers, when you have all of
those sorts of things that you as a state now
have to grapple with how does that change your state.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I think people in government do
not understand this. We have this in our town where,
well not the town that we live in, but one
very close to us. They decided they wanted to make
this a tourist town, and they were going to bring

(23:53):
in all these local restaurantiers and they were going to
build all this area downtown where everybody would want to
go and hang out. And the downtown was very industrial,
had been very industrial for many years. And we our
factory was down there as well. And let me tell you,
this city did everything they could to get us out
of there. Get out, get out, get out by property

(24:16):
outside of town. I mean, it's like they no one
in the government understands the challenges of trying to move
a corporation. But it didn't matter because they were going
to make this town a tourist attraction. It's not on
the beach. It's not like you can walk to the beach.
I mean, if you look at a Holland, you know

(24:38):
you have a downtown down there that attracts people. There's
other reasons to go to downtown Holland if you look
at Grand Haven, you can walk to the beach from
downtown Grand Haven. The water is right there. You have
in Miskegan, you have Miskegan Lake, but there's no waterfront
where you can just go out and hang out. There's
not a good reason to be attracted to mis But

(25:00):
they wanted to make it this place where people go.
They have done a great job of doing that. I
will say they have a conference center down there, they
have the hockey arena, they have the all of the beach,
volleyball in the summer. They have the Miskeigan Farmers Market.
But you know what, you have to be actually able
to pay people to live in the town to go

(25:20):
visit it. And that is the concept that the elected
officials in this state have not understood. Tennessee gets it.
Governor Lee has done his damnedest to bring as many
businesses as he can to Tennessee. And he goes and
he poaches them from other states. And I have to
say I give him credit. I mean, look, you got
Ford and brought a huge brought what to Ford factories

(25:44):
to Tennessee. And it's about busting your tail every day
to try to make your state the best. That's what
being governor is about. Right. You have to have the infrastructure,
you have to have the businesses, but if you don't
provide people with an income, they can spend that money.
And so if you look at Miskeigan, oh they have
this beautiful downtown within a few months. But I mean

(26:07):
the turnover of restaurants down there is crazy. It's one
mom and pop restaurant after another that tries to start up,
and they fail because there's nobody with money to spend.
If you don't pay people in the town, they can't
go there and enjoy the restaurants. And you know the reason,
they don't ever get a chain restaurant that people know,
and there's not a I don't think there's a single

(26:28):
one in downtown Miskegan. I don't believe there's a single
chain down there. And the reason is that they look
at the economic income from that area and decide whether
or not people can afford to come to their restaurant
and know every single one has passed on Miskeigan because
there's no business there. And yet these electeds cannot get
it through their head that you have to try to

(26:49):
get people to come and work This is the same
chamber of commerce where the young people are like, we
want to be able to come at ten thirty and
everybody's like, yeah, there's so cool. It's very frustrat to
me that no one seems to get it. And if
you leave this state of miss area, state of Michigan
and you go to a Tennessee, you're like overwhelmed with

(27:10):
the excitement and the movement and the energy in the
entire state. That's not happening here. And yet we have
Whitmer going out and she's what campaigning in North Carolina
for Biden. I'm like, she has raised more money and
spent more time in other states raising money, but not
Bryant brought a single business to this state since she

(27:32):
started here, unless she goes to China.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Well, and the thing is that she's going to these
other states and touting the Michigan model, and I'm like,
I would avoid the Michigan model with at all class
at this point because Okay, I know she's talking politically
the Michigan model, but where has that gotten the everyday
citizens of Michigan. At the end of the day, people
want to go somewhere where they have a good job,
they're paid well, they can afford to buy a house.

(27:55):
I mean all of those things when you look at
like even interest rates.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
There not enough people that live here that can tell
people how bad it is. She can hire behind the
fact that she has zero population.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
And I think you make a good point that people
like Bill Lee are going to other states. When have
you ever heard of Gretchen Whitmer going to a different
state and bringing a company from a different state. That's
not happening. What she's doing is you said she's in
DC this week. She's in DC trying to get more

(28:27):
federal money for various projects, even though she's got a
record budget that she proposed another record budget, And so
what in the other thing that she's doing is she's
trying to bring Chinese companies, in South Korean companies, and
European companies into the state of Michigan with massive taxpayer

(28:48):
funded incentives.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I would argue she's not She's going to Japan and
all these different places because she wants to have international
travel on her punch card for president, and it has
nothing to do with the benefit of the state of Michigan.
I believe she has used taxpayer dollars to build up
her future presidential campaign with no intention of bringing a

(29:13):
single job to Michigan. She went to a company in
Japan that makes robots to eliminate people's jobs. Is completely
run by robots, and she's like, oh, we're thinking of
bringing them to Michigan. I'm like, awesome. I hope the
CEO has a great time jet skiing on the lakes
because apparently he's the only person that has to work there. Well,

(29:33):
and she.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Did technically go to other states. Remember she said she
was going to eat Indiana's lunch and take all their business.
But the way she was going to do that was
through abortion, not actually bringing jobs. She's just going to
lure people in with abortion.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
She just ate the lunch.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Ye, she did eat their line that STI mind, you're
being very quiet.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I don't know anything about this. I don't you know.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
So have you been to Nashville lately? We went through
Nashville not long ago, didn't we?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Last year? Oh yes, sure, Yeah, Kyle just goes there
to go to gravesite.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
But I think, but you're that's true, but your but
you have family here. If you were just separate your
family connection to Michigan, if you were looking for somewhere
to move, what would you be looking for? Would you
be looking for sort of I would you be looking for.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I want to be able to describe to people where
I live by showing them my hand. So Michigan really
is perfect for me on that front.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
That doesn't pay the bills, though.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
It could be a cool party trick. I just think.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
I just think whether it's places like Tennessee, Nashville, or Dallas, Texas,
there's just a there's a different there's just a different mentality,
and I think there's a different attitude. And I think
one of the other complications is when your state like

(31:13):
Michigan and your population is shrinking, that means obviously there's
fewer taxes. It costs more to upkeep infrastructure that was
built for a significantly larger population, and people that live
in those communities where the infrastructure's falling apart, they expect
that to still be maintained and it's very expensive.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, because you don't have the you don't have the
tax base, So you can't fix the infrastructure if you
don't have the tax base. So you're right, you have
just as many roads, just as many bridges, maybe fewer people.
But the wear and tear has been over years and
there has not been the repair. Besides the fact that
she's saying she's fixing the roads, she's not. According to
the recent data that came out, they're even worse than

(31:57):
before she took office, and so she can't. She took
the money, she squandered it. She has made massive increases
in the state budget by just growing the government. Essentially,
she created another Department of ED. I mean, it's insane.
They will do anything to put people on their payroll,

(32:18):
and that is robbing the state. What I think people
don't understand is the more these government agencies that you
hear in the news, all that stuff, do not let
this go. Because when you hear of your governor or
somebody in your state, your even your town, growing the
city government or growing the state government, recognize that that

(32:39):
is taking money away from the crucial programs that you need,
the police, from the infrastructure, from anything that you rely
on government for. And these will be agencies. They will
never do a thing for you. They will never do
a thing for you. There's no reason for a second
Department of ED in a state that is failing in education.
What you should do is hold use the current permanent

(33:00):
bed and hold them accountable, but that's not going to.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Happen, or change change the constitutions, and to create an
education system that makes sense. But she's not doing that
because it's probably too much work, and instead she's just
creating more bureaucracy.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well, now she has to go out and campaign for
Joe Biden because he can't speak for himself apparently. And
I think it's interesting that this is coming out, and Sarah,
you have the story about it, but I think it's
interesting that it's coming out because the mainstream media can't
hide it anymore that he can't speak. I mean, what

(33:38):
we've seen going on with the attacks on Donald Trump
are insane, but you couple that with a guy who
who is not mentally capable of being president becomes very dangerous. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
I mean there's a story in the Wall Street Journal
this morning and the title is behind closed Doors Biden
shows signs of slipping, which I think is a little
bit ironic because it's not just behind closed doors. I mean,
I think we can all see it, but it's not
some quick hit. I mean, the Wall Street Journal is
not just writing some quick hit that they could go
after him. I mean, this is forty five interviews. They
obviously make the point that it's more Republicans than Democrats,

(34:11):
but Democrats are included in this, and it's over months
of conversation where they talk about meetings with Joe Biden
or instances that they've had with him where he just
genuinely is reading from notes, closing his eyes for extended periods.
He's mixing key leaders up. I mean, I get it,
people fumble names, it happens, but when you're talking about
I mean, in twenty twenty one, I think he was

(34:33):
at one of the g twenty summits and he was
referencing a French leader that had died in the nineties,
and that he was saying he talked to him that week.
I mean, that's a new level of confusion, if we're
going to call it that. But I think it's starting
to come out now, and at a certain point we
have to say, are we going to actually allow this
to happen anymore? Because I don't think this man's running

(34:53):
the country. I mean, you look at some of these stories,
and you look at all the things that you hear.
It's not just behind closed doors. I mean it's in
you can all see it on camera. There's one quote
that I think is funny. One of the Democrats was
trying to save him and say, yeah, what you see
on TV is what you get. What I see on
TV is pretty scary.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well. I think that one of the statements in there
is that in these meetings he's closing his eyes and
people have wondered if he's completely zoned out, and they're like,
is he still awake? Is he paying attention? It's I
mean that alone should be he should have stepped down.

(35:29):
The problem is there is no answer for this. If
somebody who has no mental acuity wants to run for office,
you can, and the only answer is that people don't
vote for him. However, it's an unusual situation because the
Wall Street Journal is unique in reporting this. Most of

(35:49):
these people are just holding his water and protecting him.
If you look at the CNNs and the MSNBC's of
the world, man, they are all about protecting Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Well, and we look at some things as funny, like
he talked about his uncle that was eaten by cannibals,
But the under like the flip side of that is
he actually kind of caused international outcry because the leader
of Papa New Guinea came out and essentially said he
was offended, and here we are offending other international leaders
because of crazy tales that our president is making.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
That he didn't he didn't have to talk about that. Yeah,
it was like an unforced error. I think, well, when
you I see a lot of these clips and it's
it's uncomfortable and it's disturbing. And there have been instances
where the audience has sort of laughed at him because
of the things he said, or he's like mid thought

(36:45):
and all of a sudden, well, I'm not going to
get into that, and it just is very uncomfortable. And
there was there was a time he didn't interview with
Time where he mixed up Putin and she And you know,
as you said, Sarah, people make mistakes all the time.
But you know, if he's on some high stakes phone

(37:06):
call and he's you know, babbling incoherently, that can have
real world implications. And so the things that are happening
and if this is what we're seeing in public, imagine
what actually is happening behind closed doors.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
They were trying to say that. At one point I
heard him talk about how young people will like him
because they will he will be like their grandpa. And
that's what I just like, es one, You're the youngest
one here. I mean, do you think of Joe Biden?
Do you want your president to be like your lovable
old grandpa that maybe gets confused sometimes.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
No. But but I'll say this, I have a theory.
There was this conspiracy that Boris Johnson, who was notoriously
unkept and kind of a klutz and stuff like that.
There was a theory that he did it because it
made him look more human and people liked him better.

(38:02):
I think behind closed doors, Joe Biden is like the
Wolf of Wall Street. He's making deals. Wow, he's in
command of everything, and then when he goes in front
of a camera, he puts on the dementia hat and
he's just, you know, he's a little quiet and a
little confused.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
There was an snl skit of Ronald Reagan where that
was the premise. It was like when he was when
the door was closed in the Oval office, he was,
you know, barking commands and he had this map. Maybe
he was like the general.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
But it's not that it's not that unrealistic. I mean
Lyndon Johnson had the kind of you know, happy, go
lucky Southern appeal, and then behind closed doors he was
towering over people, kind of threatening.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I mean, I think there's the chance that he's very angry.
But his brand has always been to be like this
master negotiator, and he was always very sharp as a
senator and kind of he would mock people and he
was cutthroat, Like when he was at his best, he
was cutthroat and he was in command. And I think

(39:12):
that's why his mindset was always that he would be president,
because his trajectory was definitely going there. Obama screwed that up.
I mean, I believe that he would have probably run.
I mean, he's tried to run several times. He had
to step out because of his plagiarism. I watched that

(39:35):
whole speech of him stepping out of the race in
what it was at eighty eight and recently, and I
almost wonder if that was the Bernie Sander his Bernie
Sanders moment, where like the DNC went to him and
they were like, it's not your time, man, step aside.
We're not running you and you're going to go and

(39:55):
we're not going to take go with this plagiarism story.
You're gonna say, I screwed up and step out, and
he essentially did. Jill's face during that press conference is
the most telling to me. She is not the loving,
concerned I'm standing by him wife. She is the whoever
did this to us is going to pay. And I
assume that they have dearly paid, because I think Jill

(40:19):
is a mastermind and she is probably managing a lot
of what's happening in the White House. Let's take a
quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast.
I get what you're saying on Joe Biden. I think
it's fairly obvious that he has passed his prime. I

(40:40):
think that the Joe Biden of his sharp Senate days
would be humiliated if he understood what was happening to
him today. I think most of what is happening he
doesn't understand. I think he's also most people who have
had a relative with dementia watch him and they're like,
this anger, These bursts of screaming and yelling are very

(41:04):
much signs of dementia. And who is allowing this to happen?
And I mean Jill supposedly did not want Kamala Harris,
but whoever, whoever had that idea set this up perfectly
because she walks in and she looks like she's got
not a brain cell to rub together. I mean, she
doesn't have two brain cells to rub together. She's walking

(41:26):
behind him the other day, just the look on her
face is so goofy. It's like, wait a minute, like
you were a big time Wasn't she the district attorney
or the attorney general?

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yeah, California of California.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
And I'm like, she walks into these events and she's
just unprofessional, goofy, laughing, like looking at people like, oh
my gosh, it's the first time. It reminds me of
when those balloons dropped from the ceiling. Every time I
see Kamala Harris, she's making the same face as Hillary
when she's like, oh, look at the balloons. You know,

(42:00):
I just don't believe that he is mentally healthy because
they've set it up so that it's not him. It's
not about him. It's not about Kamala. It's about the bureaucracy.
The swamp that we hear about is running the country.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I mean, I think Kamala kind of screwed him over
because she he was only supposed to run one term.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
That's another thing. He was clearly that was.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Like his promise. Well, why does that promise suddenly change
because Kamala is fully incompetent and they know that she could.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Or or he's screwing over the diverse person that he chose.
Because he chose her not just because of her background
as an attorney general and someone who had command of
this you know, she was a senator, she had command
of the rule of law. But he also he was
very open about the fact that he chose her because
of her color. Yeah, and he is now not I'm sorry,

(42:55):
but he's not stepping down after he promised that he
would and essentially kind of conned her into I'll give
you this job when I'm done. And then oh, they
handed her every crap thing they could while she they
were in office. I mean, they have tortured the first
female black president, female and black vice president and he's

(43:16):
not even being caught on the carpetfore it.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
You have to wonder, I'm wondering what role the Hunter
Biden gun case is playing in all of this, because
I saw a clip from Trey Goudi where he said,
I used to prosecute for six years, they prosecuted gun crimes.
And he said, I'm I can think of probably ten
cases where the circumstances, you know, drugs and or a

(43:43):
false statement on an application actually led to what Hunter
Biden is currently enduring that that trial. And so I
sort of wonder is which is a federal it's a
federal case, and I sort of wonder is Joe Biden
hanging on? So if Hunter gets convicted, he's able to

(44:05):
pardon him, because don't I don't know what other reason
I mean. And again, I you know, he's eighty how
old is he eighty something years old? And you would
think and he's been in Congress and was vice president
for eight years. He's been around. He's been around this
game for a very long time. And he now he

(44:28):
was elected president. He's hit the pinnacle. I suppose the
next best thing you can do is be re elected.
But he's got kids, he has a son that died,
He's got a lot of tragedy in his history. Correct,
And so at what point do you just say, I've
lived my political life and now I'm going to live

(44:51):
my remaining days with my family. But he's not doing that,
and it just I don't know, maybe we're just different people,
but that just doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
No, but you would say if you had to pardon
your child. I mean, that's a good point.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
I just it just doesn't make any sense. And and
I think you're I think Jill is the driver of
the whole bus right now, and she apparently doesn't like Kamala.
And so there's that whole dynamic, and it just as
if it's a lot of soap opera going on. But
you know, the Biden family dirty laundry is being aired

(45:28):
with the texts about Jill and the reading the book
and all of that, which which is also very strange
because it's the it's the Biden Department of Justice that
is dragging the Biden family through the mud in an
election year. They could have done this last year, the
year before this. You know, the the laptop, the FBI

(45:51):
had that laptop which they finally this week admitted is real,
which they had.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
You remember I thought it exactly Well, now the Federal
Department of Justice.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Admitted it, admitted it as evidence as it's legitimate and real.
And so it just the whole thing is embarrassing to
the Biden family, and it's kind of shocking that it's happening.
And so I just think that's why he's could be
why he's holding on.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
So why run for office if you're just gonna I mean,
both of our presidential candidates their families are just being
dragged through legal peril and having all of their dirty
laundry aired. And I get the people that are like, oh,
you decided to be a public official and this has
to come out. I think that if it affects your

(46:45):
ability to do your job, that makes sense. If you
are having a lurid affair with somebody who is also
in power and taking over the state during I don't know,
a pandemic, then yeah, that should be exposed. But if
you are, if you have something like this, I don't know.
I mean, it's just it's become That's why people call

(47:08):
the United States a been ana republic, and that's why
people are very concerned about the future if you're just
going to prosecute. But to your point, this is the
Bided Justice Department prosecuting his son, and maybe that's I
don't it just is it is bizarre, and there I
don't think anybody takes joy in these things. I think
there are people who go online and take joy in this,

(47:28):
and that is also becoming sad for society right now.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Yeah, so I guess I give them credit because you know,
of course, the rhetoric from the administration is, you know,
they love to talk about gun violence and you know,
lump those two words together. Well, if you look at
the accusations against Hunter Biden and the circumstances and all
of that, he absolutely if they are consistent, which there's

(47:55):
not much consistency in politics, but if they are consistent
and having any shred of integrity, he has to be
held accountable for that. And it's fascinating that the DOJ
is doing that and going about it in the way
that they are.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I mean, I think that these are the things that
we are exploring because there is a question as to
what you should be held accountable to and when this
just becomes a partisan attack, and I mean, I do
honestly think there are sincere things happening behind closed doors
in states and in the federal government that are being

(48:34):
covered up and in those cases they shouldn't be, and
the true crimes that should not be or true corruption
that should not be. But I think that people are
getting confused with what campaigning is and politically taking out
your opponent in some other way. And I mean, we

(48:54):
see that with Trump, and I think that what happened
with Donald Trump is going to go down in history
as like the beginning of the end if something doesn't
change in this country. And I don't know. I mean,
we you know, everybody's very confident in the polls, and
I just say that everybody better be on their toes
come election time and be out there talking to their neighbors,

(49:15):
getting talking to door knocking, planning real events. But I
don't know. We'll see if that's happening. We will see.
We'll keep everybody posted. So I will sign off for
all of us now for the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always,
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