June 14, 2024 • 57 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Friday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I
hope all of you are having fantastic Fridays, and I
hope we can continue that as we roll through the
course of today's program. We got a lot to discuss
Supreme Court, but maybe most significantly Buck, still no ruling
(00:26):
on presidential immunity or on whether or not the Sarvaines
Oxley Act can be twisted to allow the January sixth
protesters to be charged with obstruction of proceedings. Those are
two still monster cases that are out there. My prediction
(00:46):
for a while now has been that they will drop
these into sort of the holiday weekend basket because a
lot of people are going to take off. We got
July fourth, on a Thursday and a Friday. Looking ahead,
as I know many of you have probably planned summer
vacations around that week. I think they're going to drop
it somewhere in the vicinity of there to kind of
(01:08):
deaden it into a holiday weekend. That's been my prediction,
but we'll see what ends up happening. They did have
a major ruling on a bump stock case right that
I saw you tweeting about. That is the right result
so far from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Absolutely, a chair is not a sofa, and a duck
is not a flamingo. A bump stock is not a
machine gun. This is rather straightforward. And for anybody who,
first of all, I don't even know if you own
a bum stock, please like let us know, like right
in and be like, hey, I love my bump stock.
(01:45):
I know what they are. I've never fired one. I
don't know anybody who has one. It's kind of an
enthusiast thing. Some people have them. You can mimic a
bump stock by using your belt loop, so it's the
whole thing. I mean, it never was a smart ruling
in the first place, and sixty three is the right
ruling in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Okay, So Biden is still I believe in Italy it
has not gone well.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
The G seven is meeting there.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Many different videos of Biden have gone viral on this
trip so far, all of them having to do with
the space cadet aspects of his presidency. Front page Italian
newspaper ridiculing Joe Biden for being out of touch, slow speaking, halting.
(02:34):
We got to go to Italy to get honest news reporting.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I don't want to jump in on your mono intro here, Clay,
but we are forgetting something very important. It is President
Trump's birthday today. It is President Trump's birthday. So just
want to say happy birthday the greatest President, President Trump.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
There you go, seventy eight right, seventy eight forty five,
the forty fifth president, soon to be the forty seventh.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Sixty A hair of a thirty five year.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Old, health of a health of a twenty five year old,
according to his doctors. Biden did and you were watching MSNBC.
We've been texting about this this morning. You took out
like the biggest MSNBC fan on the planet. Let me
you let me know what you want me to jump
in and give you a window into what it's like
to watch MSNBC in the morning, because this morning was
a plus.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It was phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So, first of all, Joe Biden addressed the hunter. Biden
he only took two questions, and we're going to play
you the cuts, and they were preapproved questions. Joe Biden says, Now,
by the way, Buck, he's not going to pardon or
commute the sentence of Hunter Biden. We certainly do agree
that that is not an honest answer, But Joe Biden
(03:46):
wants you to know Hunter is one of the brightest,
most decent men he knows.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Listen, in regard to the question regarding the family, I'm
extremely proud of my son Hunter. He has overcome an addiction.
He is He's one of the greatest, most decent men
I know. And I am satisfied that I'm not going
to do anything. I said, I adbide by the jury decision,
and I will do that and I will not partner.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He also said he wouldn't commute him. Okay, I just
want to play this. This was the press conference. Joe Biden.
Cut three says he's only going to take two questions,
So listen to this, and then I want to play
when somebody goes off script. The fact that we've just
accepted this is normal is bonkers.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Here's cut three. Now we will do what You're going
to take.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Two questions from America reporters, and two questions from two
American reporters, and a question needs.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
From two Ukrainey supporters.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Reporters.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
The first the first person I'm to call and is
calling long and associated press.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Okay, so Buck, they're giving him a list of who
he's calling on, and he's been told exactly what they're
going to ask.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And here is cut four.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Somebody goes off script and asks him something he's not expecting,
and he lectures them.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
I have a question for President Zelanski shortly on the announcements,
but if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you
about your discussions on the situation in Gaza here at
the summit. You were asked us a short time ago
about it after the skydepping demonstration. Can you give us
your assessment of Hamasa's response and do you believe that
(05:24):
they are trying to work towards a deal or is
this response working against a deal? And what is your
message to allies, including those here at the G seven,
about what more, if anything, the US can do to
drive towards a piece of green. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I wish you guys were a little play by the
rules a little bit. I'm here to talk about a
critical situation in Ukraine. You're asking me another subject about
I'll be happy to answer it in detail later.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Okay, are you as troubled by this as I am
bucked the idea that oppressed which is supposed to be independent.
We know, I understand that we have basically provda in
many different aspects of the American political press now, But
the idea that the president, who never holds press conferences,
(06:13):
who virtually never does interviews, would be able to have
his team script who's asking questions and exactly what those
questions are, and that Biden would lecture if they're broken
the rules just a little bit. I think it's a
big story and it deserves discussion, even if it's not
particularly surprising, even you think didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I think it's a big story.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Barack Obama didn't do this, Like you could rip Barack Obama,
you could rip Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
This is every day. I mean, this is but got
with Joe Biden, like this is every day.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But I think we've gotten so used to the idea
that he doesn't actually answer questions and they script everything
and that they write it, that we shouldn't avoid calling
out how abnormal it is is, particularly when it's getting
noticed in Europe and they're like, this is the American president.
They're calling out our president more than our media is.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, well, I hate to be that guy, but I'm
going to be. This is why they're holding a debate
as early as they are. They're going to pump Biden
full of stuff. He's going to seem energetic and with
it during that debate. Just just mark my words, everyone,
I'm telling you what's going to happen. He's going to
(07:31):
seem energetic and with it that debate. The entire media
apparatus then goes all out play messaging all summer. Biden
still the best option. Sure he's older, but did you
see how sharp he was at the debate and all
this stuff, all the you know, the he doesn't do
press conferences and he wanders around and he's like mister
(07:51):
Magoo except evil. All of that gets swept aside by
look at how he did in the debate, which is
why they're holding a debate in quite obviously. I mean,
look Trump, it's his birthday and he gave himself a
birthday president, which was sharing the greatest hits of Biden.
You guys have do you guys have this one? The
greatest hits of Joe Biden. President Trump shared this on
(08:14):
truth social which then also got shared elsewhere, and uh,
I do we we.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Must have it? Where is that one? You know what
I'm talking about?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
No, I show right? Are they trut to be self evident?
Speaker 7 (08:31):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Man?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Women created by go you know the you know the thing?
America is a nation that can be defined in a
single word. I was gonna foot him foothills of the mlasing.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Knows, he knows.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So long as this is nine, I'll see you can
never be secured.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We'll never forget lying around and as him him lying around. Actually,
it is noteworthy that the percentage of women who registered
to vote and cast a ballot is consistently higher than
the percentage.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Of the men who do so.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
End of quote, repeat the line.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
How lated effect the strategy to bobilize tru I suver
to pressure.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Those are two of the best, By the way, Truman,
not Sugarra That's one of my favorites. But also end
of quote, repeat the line is his true Ron Burgundy moment.
I just I know, look it's fun. I mean it's
also kind of shocking and horrifying. I know he's the
president and this is what we're dealing with. But you know,
we sit here, Clay, we poke fun. I just I
(09:39):
don't want anyone to have false hope that Biden's apparent
decline in dementia is going to be the silver bullet,
so to speak, for this election. Like it's it's just
not this is not the panacea. This is not the
thing that's going to turn the election for Joe. I mean,
do you like I actually this is I think that
(10:00):
is the election.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I do think that ultimately it's going to come down
to for the Look, we agree that there are forty
five percent of Trump supporters or Republican voters conservative. However,
you want to classify a forty five percent of Biden,
there's about ten percent of people, let's say, that are
persuadable in some way, and I think that's probably even
being a little bit excessive. I think for those ten percent,
(10:23):
it's going to come down to, yeah, I don't really
like Trump or Biden, that they're the double hater brigade.
Some of those people will vote for RFK Junior and
other third parties, But when they make that decision between
Trump and Biden, I think it's going to come down
to Trump's kind of a jerk in the mind of
these people. Biden's brain doesn't work, and I think these
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people are going to come down on the side of Trump,
because if you have to choose, if you had to
choose out there right now at your business, would you
rather work for the jerk or the guy with dementia
who's more likely to keep the business going. I think
most people are going to pick the jerk over dementia. Again,
I'm saying for those that are undecided, And obviously there
(11:09):
are a lot of factors here. Biden's done a poor job.
I think it's not just the dementia. I think it's
also the rise in price of goods, the southern border,
the fact that he's failed. If it were just dementia
and Biden weren't the incumbent against the jerk, I think
Trump would be in trouble. I think this is the
election in their minds. Interesting, I don't see it that way.
(11:31):
So we'll see, and I would just say the media member,
the debate will happen. The media will be running clips
and analysis based on that debate the entire summer, and
that's it. There's a debate in the summer, and then
there's a debate in September. People will already be voting
in September, so all Biden has to do is show
up and do what he does. And this guy, the
one thing he can do is be disingenuous and spewed
(11:54):
talking points. I mean he's been. It's almost like he,
you know, came out of the crib.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Just doing the same Joe and you know, not a
joke and you know, I'm not trying to be facetious,
and it's all the same crap with him all the time.
He'll get up there, he'll do that, and all summer,
all will be when you're talking about that middle ten percent.
Our people already know. Anybody who's conservative, anybody who looks
at you know there gets their information honestly online more
(12:19):
than they do. But people who watch CBS News, people
who read USA Today occasionally, you know, people who are
very casual observers of the news are going to be
blasted all summer with Joe Biden's fine. Here's this clip
from the debate. Look at him. He beat Trump in
the debate. I'm not saying that that's even true. I'm
(12:41):
just telling you they're going to blanket the airwaves with
It's not as bad as you've been told. Look at
Joe up on the debate stage. That's the only why
else would they have a debate in June.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, my theory is that he's got to get over
the hump and prove that he can do it. A
couple of things on this, Well, let's talk about it
when we come back, because I got two thoughts.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think you're hitting on something that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I do agree with, and that is the low information
voter who still watches CBS evening News or whatever else.
They really aren't as plugged in as crazily the young
voter on TikTok, because think about this, Trump may beat
Biden eighteen to twenty nine year olds. Do you know
the strongest voting group right now for Joe Biden in
(13:22):
the entire country? Voters over sixty five. They are breaking
overwhelmingly for Joe Biden. I think that's staggering to a
lot of people because you tend to think, oh, those
young whipper snapper idiots, they don't know any better. They're
actually potentially going to vote for Trump. According to Axios
(13:43):
this morning, over sixty five is the group that Joe
Biden is doing best with.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's kind of staggering to me.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And then but you make the argument, these are the
people that are still watching the CBS evening news. They're
more propagandized. If you want to be really concerned about
the future of the public, look at Republic, look at
you know, we make fun of the view if you
has two million viewers every year, I mean, it's it's
an institution for people who don't really like to read.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But true.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
But there's also I mean, these these big broadcast news
channels do these thirty minute news shows. They still have
millions and millions of people watching every night, and we
didn't even We're always talking about the cable news because
that's oh FSNBC was amazing, it was. It was amazing
this morning. I even made Kerry come in and watch
someone with me. But the other news channels have much bigger.
I mean, who's the guy who's just like Captain Handsome.
(14:34):
I don't even know his daming mirror, is it? Yeah, exactly.
He is a really good looking man, handsome man. I mean, look,
we're both married guys. He's a handsome man, you know,
but I don't know what he does other than be handsome.
But he's got like six million viewers a night or something.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, Bill Malugin or David muirr better looking man on television.
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Speaker 3 (16:05):
A few things we're gonna be talking about the latest
in Trump arrangement on TV. We've got some clips for
you from over at MSNBC. And I asked Clay, I said, Clay,
can I just dive in a little bit here into
my new morning habit as I'm drinking my Crocket coffee
because I love America and that's the thing it keeps
(16:26):
the Crocket coffee keeps me tethered to freedom, the Constitution,
and the greatness of these United States. While I am
watching the comedy propaganda channel that is MSNBC and.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
This morning it's funny to Carrie walked in. She's like,
what are you watching?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I was like, honey, Scarborough is giving Biden a BackRub
on TV again. It's amazing. It's amazing watching them do this.
And you also have Mika who while Joe is talking,
You've ever noticed I don't see this in any other
show SHOs Oh yeah, yeah, oh absolutely. She sort of
creates a little amen corner effect for her. Oh oh gosh,
oh yeah, oh gosh. You know, she's just just and
(17:05):
they're they're married now, so you know it's husband and
wife team up there on the TV.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So what I thought was so interesting is I am
not taking these out of order, at least not to
my recollection. I took a couple of quick notes on it.
First off, the Supreme Court decision comes down, and they're
very upset by but not only they upset by the
Supreme Court decision, which this was banning bump stocks through
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an ATF regulation, a little bit like what they tried
to do with pistol, with what's called the pistol brace.
ATF was also going to ban that. Now they've stayed
that ban I think pending more comment or something whatever,
but that they ended up not doing. So they're very upset,
but they have to make sure everyone knows how smart
soda Myor is. So the legal anow if you're going
(17:53):
to go on MSNBC and do legal analysis, the requirement
is to genuflect at the statue of soda Mayor first.
That's always I think it. You can also do this
for you know, you can also genuflex a Katangi, Brown,
Jackson or Kagan, But really Sotomor seems to be their
their favorite choice because she's the most activist uh left,
she's the most activist left winger on the court. Then
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we then we pand over to an author and I'm
not kidding. The title of the book is what is
wrong with Capitalism? Okay, so the so they have a
guy who's up there is talking. The title of the
book is What's wrong with Capitalism? So when I say
comedy propaganda, I want everyone understand they're having dudes on
the Meek and Joe or We're tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
All their friends belong to you.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Know, country clubs with six figure entry fees and and
you know they go back and forth from the Hamptons
and Nantucket to you know, the Upper East Side or whatever.
But they're having people on to talk about what's wrong
with capitalism. Oh okay, okay, fine, Then Clay, they switch over.
I'm taking you through this scene by scene. Then they
switch over to outrage that Elon Musk is finally getting
(19:01):
his pay package at Tesla. The Tesla voters once again
voted to give Elon this pay package because he's, let's
be honest, the you know, most impressive executive living today
in terms of what he has built and what he
has come from with it. But they're very upset about
that Elon Musk. So they're huffy about Elon's pay package.
(19:24):
They've got some guy I don't even know who he
is who's like, oh, this is an outrage. Then they
switch over to a They have a a playwright. He
is a gay black man named Jeremy o'harris, and he's
he's doing a segment called slave you know about his
(19:44):
Broadway play called slave Play. Not a movie, a play.
Then they transition to Trump's birthday and immediately talk about
how on Trump's birthday he is quote returning to the
scene of the crime on Capitol Hill. Okay, the see
the crime and then finally Clay they switched to On
the screen, it says Liz Cheney, history will forever remember
(20:08):
the shame of Mitch McConnell. Like this is just wham wham,
like one after another left wing stuff on the screen.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I sit here and I just look at this. I'm like,
these people are living in an alternate universe.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
They're living in an alternate reality where it's it has
to be either you know, anti capitalists, anti Trump, very woke,
very DEI.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But this is what people are consuming over there all
day long.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So this I would like to actually see the data
on because I talk to you about the fact that
in the morning, my house is kind of chaos. So
I've been going on Fox and Friends for years now.
I can't speak to every segment that they do, but
a lot of Fox and Friends is very light morning
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televis vision shows. That's not to say you're not going
to get stories about the border or interviews with newsmakers,
but it's also you know, hey, moms and dads are
getting ready for school.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
In the morning, kids are around.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's not you know, the Today Show is typically not
going to be hard hitting journalism every segment, Right, Who
do you think the viewer is, Oh, I know MSNBC
Morning Joe, like you know, who is the average person?
If you had to like my and I'll give you
like Fox and Friends, I would say that it's like a.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Forty eight year old mom or.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Dad of a couple of kids getting ready for school,
is what I would say. The average viewer of a
Fox and Friends would be in the middle part of
the country who's watching MSNBC and getting what you just
described is basically strident political propaganda to start their day.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I mean, you know this is I can sort of
do it by region for you. But in DC, it's
government employees making sense figures.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Okay, it makes a little bit of sense because those
people are in the political sphere. Yeah, that one I get,
but like, yes, but okay, But the point is it's
people that are making one hundred and twenty to one
hundred and eighty grand in the DC metro area, but
dual income household they probably but you know, one of
them has a job at the Department of you know,
the Interior, and the other one has a job at
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the State Department, and they have a combined income of
like three hundred grand, and they just want to sneer
at Trump all and Trump voters all day and feel
good about themselves.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
You also have the at the sort of higher economic
end of the scale, the people that are lobbyists and
and that have started government contracting and consulting agencies. They
live in multimillion dollar mansions in Colorama, in Fairfax County,
Calorama being in DC Fairfax County if they want more
(22:56):
of that suburban vibe.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
And their whole thing is that.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
They're riddled with white guilt, so they want to watch
a show that's constantly reinforcing how democrats care so much
about the poor and about DEEI stuff right New York City.
You just change around the profession in la same thing.
You just changed around the profession. But it's basically the
same demo. But it's overwhelmingly upper income, smug white Democrats.
(23:24):
I know they also have minorities watched too, but I'm
talking about the primary smug white Democrats who want to
feel good about themselves and have a group of people
at table, in this case Morning Joe telling them they
are smarter and better people than the other meaning Republicans
and Trump voters. And that's the whole I mean, I
went through the topics capitalism is bad, a play about slavery,
(23:45):
Trump is a criminal, Trump is a criminal, and Mitch
McConnell should be ashamed of himself. Like this is like
the morning fare they offer over there. It just sounds miserable.
I mean I did early morning radio.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
My thought process in early morning radio and obviously sports
talk radio was we're gonna sometimes talk about serious things,
because there are serious that COVID happened, right, But in
general I want to do a fun show that makes
people laugh and it can still do serious discussion. But
people with most people and we're we're building out an
(24:23):
out kick show right now. Most people don't roll out
of bed and just want to be told that the
world is awful. Right maybe later in the day you're
ready for shows are supposed to look I did.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I launched what is now called Rising. I was the
first host with Crystal Ball True Story. We launched Rising,
and we knew that there had to be like a
little more like you know.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Hey, everybody like welcome, like good morning, like it's good morning.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I mean, they can't be like and they do cooking
on these shows, a Stalinist table pounding right away, no
matter how much of a left winger somebody may be
or you know, right wing, which is what surprises me
about that show's success. I get that there's a market
the one you hit that I that I said immediately, okay,
that makes sense if you're in the political DC ecosystem
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and you want to know what the talking points are
for the day for people on the left in the country.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Morning Joe has sort of occupied that lane.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
That makes some sense, But there's not that many of
those people right in the grand numbers. So the idea
that you would want to wake up and early in
the morning be like, I want to watch an interview
with a guy who says capitalism is awful, while, as
you point out, relishing all of the benefits of capitalism from.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Your One of their biggest sponsors is Starbucks. So yeah,
MSNBC's Morning Joe Capitalism is awful, brought to you by Starbucks. Like,
this is what's actually happening over there. The hypocrisy, the
whole thing is so absurd. The the the moral preening.
They pretend to care so much about trans rites and
(25:53):
and you know, and the black community and.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Joe Scarbamiko Brusinski. They have all just it's all just
a calm.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
They don't care about any of that. They don't care
about any of those people. But their audience of people
worth you know, two to ten million dollars who live
in Chevy Chase, they care to pretend that they care
about that.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
You know, in the morning.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Like to your point, I understand if you're watching Fox
Business or you're watching CNBC. To me, those are high
net worth people who want to know what the latest
business stories are. It's not necessarily again a huge population.
But I know Fox and Friends fairly well. I don't
think they have the same tone as the as the
(26:39):
Morning Joe Show.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Now it's been fair I have it there, you're not
sitting there. And first of all, I mean I've seen
it a fair amount. I haven't I haven't really watched
much Fox for a while, but I've seen the fair
amount of it over the years. And you know, Deucey
tries to Doucey Senior tries to play it pretty straight.
Usually you know, kill me gives a little more of
the of the conservative side of the news analysis, I
(27:01):
would say, And and uh uh Ainsley as Ainsley is
basically doing news in commentary, but you know she's not
attacking anybody. Yeah, so it's a very different feeling. It's
there's a there's a I'm telling you, the whole Morning
Joe thing is it's like recreating for insecure people who
haven't achieved despite all their resume bullets, what they wanted
(27:22):
in life. Morning Joe is an invitation to sit at
the cool kids table, but they're actually not cool and
they're not good at anything.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes, I mean, I just you know, like if you
had a we have a coffee company, and they have that.
You may have heard they have the test of like,
whoever's gonna win this election is going to be the
guy you'd most likely to have a beer with. Now,
either Trump nor Biden drink, but that's been a regular test.
I would say in morning television, the winner would be
(27:52):
the people you'd most like to have a cup of
coffee with. Back in the day, Katie Curican before the
Matt Lauer got you know me tooed they it seemed
like fairly easy going, like, hey, let's have a cup
of coffee with these guys. The Scarborough strident propaganda. I'm
surprised there's an audience that early in the morning for
strident propaganda. I I just am and you probably have
(28:15):
nailed who exactly is watching that, But man, what a
just awful way to start your momd Like I make
fun of the view, but at least in the view.
I know it's a little bit later in the day,
but at least they do have lighthearted elements. I can
see why it would be appealing to a suburban mom
occasionally to watch the view, Like I don't I think
(28:35):
the people on there primarily idiots, but I can see
why that would be an enjoyable show. The Morning Joe
thing of just telling you things that you that are
directly contradictory to what you see with your own eyes.
That seems like an awful viewing.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But the reason that I do this now, I mean
one is that I just find it. I find it
a music because it's worse than I had. You know,
we usually just look at the clips, right when you
look at the full content wheel, when you look at
the editorial decisions being made, it's it's a you know,
I'm familiar with indoctrination, might even have a book coming
(29:10):
out that deals with it. So I sit there and
I go through, like what they're trying to present and
why they're doing this for their audience. They are presenting
really an alternate reality for yeah, and and it's very
stage managed, in stage crafted. And I understand by the
way that they will say the same thing about Fox
and they'll say the same thing about Fox and Friends.
But but hold on a second, to the point that
(29:32):
I'm making Fox and Friends is not it's not nasty.
It's not a constant like assault of the other side.
And they, you know, they do like, hey, here's a
guy at a diner and like here's like a you know,
a pie eating contest, and like here's a country music band.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
They have the.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Hill today, Like it's a different thing, the the most
and the reason I keep honing in on them on
their morning show is I'm telling you this is their
this is their flagship for this election. Morning Joe has
become the Democrat flagship. So if you want to understand
the messaging that will filter out everywhere else. You know,
(30:08):
it used to be mad Out eight pm MSNBC. Before that,
it was Anderson Cooper at CNN. Like, if you want
to see what the messaging is to, I mean, but
I do it so you don't have to. Obviously, I
get that right, like this is this is my job.
But it is remarkable to see how consistent it is.
And also, Clay, I mean, the the the obsession in
(30:28):
all regards with DEI over there is you can just
tell everything happened. There's always a Dei angle to every
segment effected everything, whether it's who's on the segment, or
how they're approaching the segment, or the you know, analysis
in the segment. Dei is really the central religious principle
of the left. Well, everybody on that show, ironically, of course,
(30:49):
is white.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, they have a rich white people who have a
lot of minority guests on and they are very Oh
you're amazing, amazing, You're amazing. And this is why I
say the audience is predominantly you know. It's it's like
a government contractor and a uh, you know, State department
employee who live in you know, Georgetown, and this is
(31:14):
their worldview and they want to think that they're really
they really care about.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
You know, the oppressed or the dei or whatever. There
you go.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'm just telling people, no, I think it's fun. I
think it's it's wild. I've never watched the show other
than the play.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I'm just telling you guys. What's going to be really
fun is I on election night? God God willing Trump wins.
I'm only watching MSNBC. I'm only watching cause any it's
so fun. If I was watching twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen
when they were figuring out that Trump loss may have
been the greatest moment in TV, I mean, sorry, Trump
won and Hillary loss may have been the greatest moment
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Speaker 2 (33:00):
Before we dive into this, Caitlin Clark Frenzy, I just
got a request for comment from NBC News and it
ties in so perfectly with what we were just discussing
about Morning Joe. The request is they're doing a story
(33:21):
NBC has They say that Joe Biden was walking away
and they claim that he was walking away to congratulate people.
And they're asking for a comment because they are doing
a story saying that Joe Biden is being unfairly criticized
(33:42):
for not being on top of the.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Not being on top of the story.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So I don't know that they will officially use my comment,
but I just tweeted my comment.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
You can watch the Evening News and see if they
use it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
NBC News has asked for a comment about me sharing
a video of Joe Biden. Joe Biden wondering away at
the G seven yesterday. They say he's sharp as attack
and I'm sharing misinformation. My comment for them, Joe Biden
has dementia and isn't fit to be president. Pretending otherwise
is a lie. Let's see if quote from Clay Travis.
(34:23):
Since they wanted a comment, Let's see whether or not
they actually share that comment with their audience. So just FYI,
you may see a hit piece coming on your your
favorite Clay and Buck show here over misinformation that we're
sharing about Joe Biden. But I do think it ties
(34:44):
in so well with what you just said about MSNBC
and the Morning Joe Show where they specifically said it's fun.
We played that clip from his advisor saying we need
more censorship and we need the media to call out dishonesty.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
So I do think one thing that will be really
interesting in this election that hasn't been the case in
a while, and that is they don't have full control
of the social media environment the way they had for
the previous I mean, I think you could take really
(35:20):
it all the way back to two thousand and eight, maybe,
you know, I mean that's now that was Facebook, not
so much Twitter when a Twitter gets started two thousand
and nine, twenty ten. But Facebook was. But Facebook was
a monster in two thousand and eight, enormously influential in
the and Google. So between Facebook and Google, they had
total information dominance for Obama, for Obama for two terms.
(35:45):
And then twenty sixteen, people would say, well, how did
Trump win? Remember Trump was a Trump was a punchline
to the Democrat elites. They thought that they were leading
Hillary to certain victory by sharing his stuff. They turn
that around in twenty twenty, as we saw, and they
clamp down on it all and they suppress the laptop,
(36:07):
but they also suppress the truth about COVID, and they
also suppress questions about the election and all of that
right thanks to Elon. And I don't like sounding like
a fanboy about anybody, but I mean Elon is very impressive.
Thanks to Elon. This time around, they won't be able
to just shut down things they don't like, the same way.
(36:28):
You won't have the collusion of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
which is owned by Facebook, TikTok all they able to
just say nope, sorry, that clip of Biden where he
looks like he's having a stroke is fake.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
They won't be able to do that if a clip like.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That emerges because Twitter. The difference in Twitter and truth.
I love truth, I'm on truth, but Twitter has the
journals are all still on it. They said they were
going to leave, they didn't. It still is an ecosystem
that reaches is a critical mass where the story gets out.
And that's very different in this election cycle than the
(37:07):
last one where they, as we know, they just said no,
can't talk about that, can't share that.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
What do you think the odds are they take my
quote and share it in their story? What was your
did you already say what I just tweeted it out. Yeah,
I said that they want, you know, the video which
we talked about of Biden being lost. We talked about
how it's being covered in Italy. I said, Joe Biden
(37:34):
has dementia and isn't fit to be president. Pretending otherwise
is a lie. That's my official comment to NBC News
on their accusing of me of sharing misinformation.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Because because you you know, I mean, you know as
well as anybody how to play this game to win,
you can never give them a quote about what they
want you to say, because they're just I've learned those
I've gotten you know, Politico has done this to me
before and others where they.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Say, hey, do you want to way in the story.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You have to make sure that the sentence would make
no sense if they did anything to it other than
share the whole thing, and you have to go on
offense right away.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
This is what Trump, which is exactly what I did.
I just tweeted it out. Their story isn't out. I
know you, but I'm saying you know everybody because if.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
You say, well, you know, I really like to think,
then it's you know, disinformation spreader Clay Travis with some
weak sauce quote.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Here you go. That's why you've got to say.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I don't like speaking to regime media communists like you,
But if I am going to speak to commedi's like you,
let me just say that Joe Biden, basically, what you did,
Joe Biden is a joke and a Traves team.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
We can all see it.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
So you got to get your you know, that's that's
the way, because they will misrepresent whatever you say if
you try to stay on the within the guidelines they
give you. It's a trap, it's an ambush.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
This is true.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And I used to do to CNN too. They'd ask
you a question. They'd always ask a question like, hey, like,
what do you think about all the white nationalists voting
for Trump? I mean, doesn't that make everybody on it
for trumpa white nationalists? If you start to answer it
with well, if you look at the numbers, there are
actually a lot of really nice no, no, no, you got
to say you're a bunch of line communists. This question
is trash.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And you know what I mean, you got to start right.
You also have to I think, request the questions in
writing and then respond to them. In writing, which is
far better than if you talk to somebody for I mean,
I've had to explain this to people, and I understand
some of you maybe never even thought about this. But
(39:32):
the media, somebody will talk to you for thirty minutes
and they will take one sentence that you talk to
them about and take that quote completely out of context
because they've probably already got the story that they want
to write written and they don't want that to actually
be visible. They don't want you to be able to
(39:52):
influence what they're trying to say.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Should we play? Let me play this.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
We were going to get into Caitlin Clark, but this
all kind of kind rolled in together. Uh, let me
hit Let me hit this From Caitlin Clark, she was
asked before her game yesterday, Hey, what do you think
about all the sexists and all of the homophobes and
all of the racist people who like you?
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I'm not even kidding. Let's do we have the full
question as well as her answer? I hope we have both,
but here it is I.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Wonder from you at the same point, how do you
feel about people in using the young there in whatever
culture wars or whatever wars.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Or the flight how do you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
It's not something I can control, so you know, I
don't put too much thought in time into thinking about
things like that, And to be honest, I don't see
a lot of it.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Like I said, like the basketball is my.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Job, like everything on the outside, I can't control that.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
So I'm not going to spend.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Time thinking about that.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
You know. People can talk.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
About what they want to talk.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
About, seeing conversations about, you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
But I think for myself, like, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I'm just here to play basketball.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
I'm here to have fun.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
I'm trying to help our team win, you know my purposes.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I'm helping us do that.
Speaker 7 (40:59):
But I don't pay a bunch of mind.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
For all of that, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Okay, that's one of the answers. The other one is
she specifically and will play that for you when we
come back, she specifically asked. Because that answer wasn't good enough,
she specifically asked about the fact that there are racist
and sexist and homophobic people according to that individual who
are who are fans of Caitlin Clark, and therefore that
(41:26):
should not be allowed to actually take place.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
We'll play that when we come back.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Also, our buddy Jesse Kelly's going to be with us
in the final hour as well. That's gonna be fun.
Get your popcorn as well as Jack Carr, who is
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Speaker 2 (43:05):
Joy now Buckets holding it up. For those of you
watching on video, Jack Carr's newest book, Red Sky Morning,
that is out and will and already is I'm sure
another monster bestseller.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Jack.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I think the last time we saw you was in
Park City. We had a meet up. It was awesome
to get see in person. The books are phenomenal. I'm
curious for you. How has the process of writing these
books changed, if at all, for you and as they
get more popular or does that make you feel more
(43:40):
pressure or less because I imagine when you sat down
and wrote the first one, you're like, man, I hope
people are going to read it. Now that you know
millions of people are reading more or less pressure for
each new book.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Well, I han't.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
I hadn't thought about it in those terms to tell
you just mentioned it.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
So now I'm feeling suppression.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Now you're rattled in your head. I take it back.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
You're going to have to get a sports psychologist for writing.
But it is kind of got to be amazing to
go from nothing to millions of people reading your books
every single time they come out.
Speaker 7 (44:10):
Yeah, you know, it's always for me. It's always about learning,
it's always about getting better. In the military, I was
a student of warfare my whole life. I've been a
student of warfare, trying to prepare myself to be the
best leader and operator I could be in the steal
teams because I knew I wanted to do that from
a very early age. And then same thing with writing.
My mom's librarians. I grew up surrounded by books and
love of reading, so I got to experience all these
(44:31):
amazing authors without the filters that come maybe down the
line with age and other distractions and responsibilities.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
So I was reading like Nelson de mill A, J.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Quinel, JC Pollock, Mark Olden and Tom Clancy, all these
guys that were masters of the craft and were really
my professors in the art of storytelling, so I had
this solid foundation and my process. The only way that
it has really changed over the years is that I
remain a student of the craft and I am focused
on getting better and better with each one. So I
(45:01):
want the next book to be better than Redsky Morning.
I want my next social post to add more value
to someone's lives than the one before it. The next blog,
same thing, next podcast, same So I'm always looking at
ways to add value to people's lives because they're trusting
me with time they're never getting back, and that's something
I take extremely seriously. So it's always about constant improvement
(45:24):
for me.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
It's about how we try to approach radio too.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Jack, We're like, we are very blessed that people give
us the time that they do, and certainly you're very
blessed that people give.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
You the time they do with reading these fantastic books.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Terminalist series has been a huge, huge success, stretching back
for years now, many books, and I'm wondering, you know
James Reese. Obviously, he's the central character once again in
this one, played memorably by Chris Pratt, one of my
favorite actors out there. In Hollywood in the Amazon version
(45:56):
of The Terminalist Season one. Can you give us any
is there any talk any scuttle but about Terminalists Season
two at some point or where do things stand?
Speaker 5 (46:06):
Yeah, so we're you know, on Amazon.
Speaker 7 (46:07):
I'll never share the exact numbers with us and Matt
data all the streaming services hold.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
That data close hole.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
But the indications are that it was quite successful, which
is why we have two shows in the works right now.
One a Prefuel Origin story that we're filming Budapest. Actually
just got back from Budapest. Was over there for about
two weeks filming, stopped by the Normandy d.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
Day eightieth anniversary commemoration events.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
For another two weeks with forty eight World War Two veterans.
Just got back two days ago, and I'll be heading
back to Budapest to continue filming the Prefuel Origin story
after book tour, which kicks off here this Monday.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Well, that is awesome.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
If you ever need two media radio consultants on set
in Budapest, you let us know, you know, if there's
a character that's in the media or something. You know,
we're very we're very cheap dates, you know, you just
bring us over there. And we'll we'll advise as best
we can.
Speaker 7 (47:00):
Let's do it as you guys love it over there.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
It's really interesting.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
I was there before I went into the Navy, so
there in nineteen ninety four. It was my first time
back in nineteen ninety four. And it's amazing how much
money is in Budapest right now. You see Russian money,
you see Ukrainian money. That I'm getting is actually our
money in Chinese money.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
And the hotel I.
Speaker 7 (47:20):
Was staying at, I mean there are two Lamborghinis every day,
two Ferrari, two families. Porsches are diamond dozen. It is
absolutely incredible to see. And it's a very clean, safe city.
I had to do a long walk across the city
one night after a after viewing actually episode one at
a buddy's place across town. And I had previously, about
a month and a half two months earlier, walked acrossrom
(47:41):
New York because I thought that the Times Square cafe
was close to Times Square, and so I thought, I'll
just walk, you know, a couple of blocks to my hotel.
And it turns out that maybe at one point it was,
but now it's like it seems like it was across
the city, so I felt like I was on E
and E as I made my way back to my
hotel near the actual Times Square from the Times Square Cafe.
But it's an amazing city, remarkable how clean and safe
(48:05):
it is. So it'll probably make its way into a
future novel. But give us a lot to work with
as far as the locations as well for the show.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Jack, as a guy you mentioned who studied military history,
and obviously you served and I'm sure learned so much
of that as the process, what was it like to
be in Normandy for the eightieth anniversary of D Day?
And as someone who is a military historian, what did
walking that ground do for you in terms of crystallizing
(48:33):
what actually took place in that day, on that day
eighty years ago and all the days that followed it
as they advanced across France.
Speaker 7 (48:41):
Yes, I meanished my fourth time there first when I
was young nineteen ninety four. I went back two thousand
and two and went back to the seventy eighth as
well seventy eighth anniversary commemoration events two years ago with
the Best Defense Foundation, which is a foundation that takes
World War Two veterans back to the battlefield on which
they fought. Did that with my daughter actually who is
she's eighteen now, so she was with me now for
(49:03):
this one on the Adioth and we had forty eight
World War Two veterans, all of them near at or
over one hundred years old. Sow you're volunteering, helping getting
them hit out of their wheelchairs to and from their rooms,
making sure that they're eating, making sure they're taking their
their medicine, making sure that getting them to all these
different events, because it's about two weeks of events. It's
not just June sixth, It is a full two week event.
(49:26):
Two weeks of events, and that's pretty tiring for someone
that's one hundred years old. But to be there and
to have my daughter actually talking to someone on Omaha
Beach who was first out of his landing craft that day,
and to ad him pointing out the machine gun positions
on the cliffs above and telling her that story, and
me watching it and listening, it's just something I can't
(49:48):
really put into words. But what was evident in the
seventy eighth and also for this that stands out to
me the most is how people of northern France have
not forgotten what was done for them for us by
the Americans. There are more American flags in northern France
during June than I've.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
Ever seen on the fourth of July in the United States.
Speaker 7 (50:08):
Eighty second airborn flags, hundred and first airborne flags. Everyone's
dressed up in period military uniforms, military jeeps from the
forties everywhere, old Indian and Harley David, the.
Speaker 5 (50:19):
Motorcycles from that era.
Speaker 7 (50:21):
It is absolutely incredible and you can see it in
their eyes. And it's not just the older people, it's
the young ones. And that's what stands out. They have
passed on this gratitude.
Speaker 5 (50:29):
Down multi generational now.
Speaker 7 (50:31):
And we went to a school visit so age let's
say five up to let's say.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Thirteen, and flags everywhere, and look.
Speaker 7 (50:39):
They just want to touch these veterans, shake their hands,
look into the I state thank you. We have baseball
cards with the veterans pictures on it and their stats
on the back of what they did in World War
Two getting signatures.
Speaker 5 (50:49):
These guys are totally treated like rock.
Speaker 7 (50:50):
Stars over there, and it's I can't help but think
there would be a little different here in the United States.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
That they showed up at a school here, but to
see that.
Speaker 7 (50:59):
Wish every American could see what goes on in Normandy
in June. And after the last of you guys are
gone a few years, I bet they still passed those
lessons on because they've done it since the forties and
it is just as powerful now as it was when
I saw it in the seventy eighth and they continue
to pass this down through the generation.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
So that's pretty cool to see.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
We've got a number one wreck here for you right
now for a book for today.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Isn't Father's Day coming up soon? Hey? There you go,
jackcar right.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
My father in law is a big Jackcar reader, so
I got to get all the good jackcar stuff and
send it along because he reads them voraciously. Jackcar Red
Sky Morning. I'm holding it up here, the latest in
the James Reese thriller series of The Terminalists. It's phenomenal, obviously,
I'm so legitimly. I saw every episode of The Terminalists
on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
It was great. We talked about that.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
We saw you in Utah and the prequel story in
Budapest sounds really cool and I've always wanted to go
to Budapest just as it aside. You were talking about
being in Normandy, obviously very moving, historically so so poignant
and powerful. I gave Clay a recommendation. We all know
Saving Private Ryan, amazing movie. We all know Banded Brothers,
amazing TV series, right like, we put those aside just
(52:11):
because I assume everybody listening has seen those, pretty much
like I don't think anybody has missed either of those.
But I said, for Clay, if you want something world
War two that is a little less well known, well
one that he hadn't seen and one that was less
well known, I gave him Gosh, I'm forgetting Hacksaw Ridge,
Hacksaw Ridge, and I gave him Hacksaw Ridge and Downfall
(52:33):
in German in the original German language.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
What would you for this weekend?
Speaker 3 (52:37):
If somebody wanted to watch something World War two based
Jack while they're taking a break from reading Red Sky Morning,
what would you tell them?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
What would be your wreck?
Speaker 7 (52:46):
I mean you got to go back and rewatch Band
of Brothers with for your family, if your kids haven't
seen it, watched Band of Brothers in its entirety with
your family. That would be the number one recommendation. But
it's really interesting is that when we think of out
those movies. We think about Saving Private Ryan, we think
about The Longest Day. If people haven't seen The Longest
Day from the sixties in black and white, should go
back and watch that. But because Tom Hanks, let's say,
(53:08):
what was he when he made that Saving Private Ryan?
Like forty five is.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
Somewhere in there same thing with Longest Day. John Wayne's
in the Longest Day.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
But then you think about the ages of these guys
who stormed the beaches at Normandy and that jumped out
of the planes and came in the gliders in.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
June of nineteen forty four. They weren't those ages. They
were young.
Speaker 7 (53:28):
They I was with guys this weekend or this past
week that lied about their age to get in. They
were fifteen years old. They lied to get into fight.
You have kids storming the beaches at seventeen, eighteen, nineteen.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
Twenty years old.
Speaker 7 (53:38):
That's the age of the people that fought their way
into France, across France into Germany, all the way to Berlin.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
And we tend to forget how.
Speaker 7 (53:46):
Young they were when we think about because of Hollywood,
because of the power of popular culture, and in Tom
Hanks and John Wayne and all these people that starred
in these World War two films, they were a lot
older typically than the kids who actually fought and won
the war.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
No doubt. Well that's an amazing way to finish. One
last question for you.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
You're talking about making the television shows, writing the books,
getting better. How do you balance your time? Well, you
got kids, You've got so many different obligations. Now success
can bring more obligations and opportunities. What's advice for you
to people out there trying to balance work life? They
have different jobs, But what have you found to be
useful with all the things that you've got going on
(54:27):
right now?
Speaker 7 (54:28):
Well, I'm still working on it because there's so much
going on. Toy are out here all the time, through kids, wife, dog,
getting the kids, the camps, getting.
Speaker 5 (54:37):
Them to school. So typically what I need is uninterrupted
time in order to write, which now.
Speaker 7 (54:43):
Happens when everyone else is asleep, so that happens between
ten and night and three in the morning.
Speaker 5 (54:48):
So there's some things that are just.
Speaker 7 (54:49):
Going to fall off the list, like maybe nutrition, sleep,
and working out, So those things need to be added
back in here eventually. But at this phase, it's been
all it's been a full on sprint. It's been obviously
putting all my heart and soul into every single word
that goes into any one of these books or a
blog post.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
Or whatever I'm doing. So I'm still working on that.
Speaker 7 (55:08):
So advice being is that prioritized next to you, same
thing as the battlefield. So I had to focus on
this book till it was the best it could possibly be.
Then got that to New York, switch over, start working
on scripts for the show. Focus on that, and then
we'll move over to the next thing. I have my
first non fiction coming out in the fall in the
nineteen eighty three Babu Barret's bombing, So that comes out
(55:28):
in September, and so there's a lot of things going on,
but I need to focus on.
Speaker 5 (55:31):
One or the time.
Speaker 7 (55:32):
This overlap in there, but I find that I need
to focus on one thing at the time and then
move to the next project rather than continue to juggle
a gazillion pace that once, because there's going to be
a good of things you.
Speaker 5 (55:42):
Have to juggle.
Speaker 7 (55:42):
You can't just focus on one thing in life. The neglect, family,
neglect everything. There's some things you have to but professionally
focusing on one, getting that the best, it can possibly
be before switching gears to.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
The other Jack, keep it up. We love it and
know how busy you are. Appreciate the time, good luck
in the new stories coming out, and definitely that book
coming out in the fall nonfiction sounds fantastic.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
Appreciate the time. Thanks for everything you did with all
the veterans.
Speaker 5 (56:07):
God, thanks so much. You get to take care.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
Thank you. Check ard new book, Red Sky at morning.
It's out.
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Friday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I
hope all of you are having fantastic Fridays, and I
hope we can continue that as we roll through the
course of today's program. We got a lot to discuss
Supreme Court, but maybe most significantly Buck, still no ruling
(00:26):
on presidential immunity or on whether or not the Sarvaines
Oxley Act can be twisted to allow the January sixth
protesters to be charged with obstruction of proceedings. Those are
two still monster cases that are out there. My prediction
(00:46):
for a while now has been that they will drop
these into sort of the holiday weekend basket because a
lot of people are going to take off. We got
July fourth, on a Thursday and a Friday. Looking ahead,
as I know many of you have probably planned summer
vacations around that week. I think they're going to drop
it somewhere in the vicinity of there to kind of
(01:08):
deaden it into a holiday weekend. That's been my prediction,
but we'll see what ends up happening. They did have
a major ruling on a bump stock case right that
I saw you tweeting about. That is the right result
so far from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Absolutely, a chair is not a sofa, and a duck
is not a flamingo. A bump stock is not a
machine gun. This is rather straightforward. And for anybody who,
first of all, I don't even know if you own
a bum stock, please like let us know, like right
in and be like, hey, I love my bump stock.
(01:45):
I know what they are. I've never fired one. I
don't know anybody who has one. It's kind of an
enthusiast thing. Some people have them. You can mimic a
bump stock by using your belt loop, so it's the
whole thing. I mean, it never was a smart ruling
in the first place, and sixty three is the right
ruling in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Okay, So Biden is still I believe in Italy it
has not gone well.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
The G seven is meeting there.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Many different videos of Biden have gone viral on this
trip so far, all of them having to do with
the space cadet aspects of his presidency. Front page Italian
newspaper ridiculing Joe Biden for being out of touch, slow speaking, halting.
(02:34):
We got to go to Italy to get honest news reporting.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I don't want to jump in on your mono intro here, Clay,
but we are forgetting something very important. It is President
Trump's birthday today. It is President Trump's birthday. So just
want to say happy birthday the greatest President, President Trump.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
There you go, seventy eight right, seventy eight forty five,
the forty fifth president, soon to be the forty seventh.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Sixty A hair of a thirty five year.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Old, health of a health of a twenty five year old,
according to his doctors. Biden did and you were watching MSNBC.
We've been texting about this this morning. You took out
like the biggest MSNBC fan on the planet. Let me
you let me know what you want me to jump
in and give you a window into what it's like
to watch MSNBC in the morning, because this morning was
a plus.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It was phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So, first of all, Joe Biden addressed the hunter. Biden
he only took two questions, and we're going to play
you the cuts, and they were preapproved questions. Joe Biden says, Now,
by the way, Buck, he's not going to pardon or
commute the sentence of Hunter Biden. We certainly do agree
that that is not an honest answer, But Joe Biden
(03:46):
wants you to know Hunter is one of the brightest,
most decent men he knows.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Listen, in regard to the question regarding the family, I'm
extremely proud of my son Hunter. He has overcome an addiction.
He is He's one of the greatest, most decent men
I know. And I am satisfied that I'm not going
to do anything. I said, I adbide by the jury decision,
and I will do that and I will not partner.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He also said he wouldn't commute him. Okay, I just
want to play this. This was the press conference. Joe Biden.
Cut three says he's only going to take two questions,
So listen to this, and then I want to play
when somebody goes off script. The fact that we've just
accepted this is normal is bonkers.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Here's cut three. Now we will do what You're going
to take.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Two questions from America reporters, and two questions from two
American reporters, and a question needs.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
From two Ukrainey supporters.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Reporters.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
The first the first person I'm to call and is
calling long and associated press.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Okay, so Buck, they're giving him a list of who
he's calling on, and he's been told exactly what they're
going to ask.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And here is cut four.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Somebody goes off script and asks him something he's not expecting,
and he lectures them.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
I have a question for President Zelanski shortly on the announcements,
but if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you
about your discussions on the situation in Gaza here at
the summit. You were asked us a short time ago
about it after the skydepping demonstration. Can you give us
your assessment of Hamasa's response and do you believe that
(05:24):
they are trying to work towards a deal or is
this response working against a deal? And what is your
message to allies, including those here at the G seven,
about what more, if anything, the US can do to
drive towards a piece of green. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I wish you guys were a little play by the
rules a little bit. I'm here to talk about a
critical situation in Ukraine. You're asking me another subject about
I'll be happy to answer it in detail later.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Okay, are you as troubled by this as I am
bucked the idea that oppressed which is supposed to be independent.
We know, I understand that we have basically provda in
many different aspects of the American political press now, But
the idea that the president, who never holds press conferences,
(06:13):
who virtually never does interviews, would be able to have
his team script who's asking questions and exactly what those
questions are, and that Biden would lecture if they're broken
the rules just a little bit. I think it's a
big story and it deserves discussion, even if it's not
particularly surprising, even you think didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I think it's a big story.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Barack Obama didn't do this, Like you could rip Barack Obama,
you could rip Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
This is every day. I mean, this is but got
with Joe Biden, like this is every day.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But I think we've gotten so used to the idea
that he doesn't actually answer questions and they script everything
and that they write it, that we shouldn't avoid calling
out how abnormal it is is, particularly when it's getting
noticed in Europe and they're like, this is the American president.
They're calling out our president more than our media is.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, well, I hate to be that guy, but I'm
going to be. This is why they're holding a debate
as early as they are. They're going to pump Biden
full of stuff. He's going to seem energetic and with
it during that debate. Just just mark my words, everyone,
I'm telling you what's going to happen. He's going to
(07:31):
seem energetic and with it that debate. The entire media
apparatus then goes all out play messaging all summer. Biden
still the best option. Sure he's older, but did you
see how sharp he was at the debate and all
this stuff, all the you know, the he doesn't do
press conferences and he wanders around and he's like mister
(07:51):
Magoo except evil. All of that gets swept aside by
look at how he did in the debate, which is
why they're holding a debate in quite obviously. I mean,
look Trump, it's his birthday and he gave himself a
birthday president, which was sharing the greatest hits of Biden.
You guys have do you guys have this one? The
greatest hits of Joe Biden. President Trump shared this on
(08:14):
truth social which then also got shared elsewhere, and uh,
I do we we.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Must have it? Where is that one? You know what
I'm talking about?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
No, I show right? Are they trut to be self evident?
Speaker 7 (08:31):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Man?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Women created by go you know the you know the thing?
America is a nation that can be defined in a
single word. I was gonna foot him foothills of the mlasing.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Knows, he knows.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So long as this is nine, I'll see you can
never be secured.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We'll never forget lying around and as him him lying around. Actually,
it is noteworthy that the percentage of women who registered
to vote and cast a ballot is consistently higher than
the percentage.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Of the men who do so.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
End of quote, repeat the line.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
How lated effect the strategy to bobilize tru I suver
to pressure.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Those are two of the best, By the way, Truman,
not Sugarra That's one of my favorites. But also end
of quote, repeat the line is his true Ron Burgundy moment.
I just I know, look it's fun. I mean it's
also kind of shocking and horrifying. I know he's the
president and this is what we're dealing with. But you know,
we sit here, Clay, we poke fun. I just I
(09:39):
don't want anyone to have false hope that Biden's apparent
decline in dementia is going to be the silver bullet,
so to speak, for this election. Like it's it's just
not this is not the panacea. This is not the
thing that's going to turn the election for Joe. I mean,
do you like I actually this is I think that
(10:00):
is the election.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I do think that ultimately it's going to come down
to for the Look, we agree that there are forty
five percent of Trump supporters or Republican voters conservative. However,
you want to classify a forty five percent of Biden,
there's about ten percent of people, let's say, that are
persuadable in some way, and I think that's probably even
being a little bit excessive. I think for those ten percent,
(10:23):
it's going to come down to, yeah, I don't really
like Trump or Biden, that they're the double hater brigade.
Some of those people will vote for RFK Junior and
other third parties, But when they make that decision between
Trump and Biden, I think it's going to come down
to Trump's kind of a jerk in the mind of
these people. Biden's brain doesn't work, and I think these
(10:46):
people are going to come down on the side of Trump,
because if you have to choose, if you had to
choose out there right now at your business, would you
rather work for the jerk or the guy with dementia
who's more likely to keep the business going. I think
most people are going to pick the jerk over dementia. Again,
I'm saying for those that are undecided, And obviously there
(11:09):
are a lot of factors here. Biden's done a poor job.
I think it's not just the dementia. I think it's
also the rise in price of goods, the southern border,
the fact that he's failed. If it were just dementia
and Biden weren't the incumbent against the jerk, I think
Trump would be in trouble. I think this is the
election in their minds. Interesting, I don't see it that way.
(11:31):
So we'll see, and I would just say the media member,
the debate will happen. The media will be running clips
and analysis based on that debate the entire summer, and
that's it. There's a debate in the summer, and then
there's a debate in September. People will already be voting
in September, so all Biden has to do is show
up and do what he does. And this guy, the
one thing he can do is be disingenuous and spewed
(11:54):
talking points. I mean he's been. It's almost like he,
you know, came out of the crib.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Just doing the same Joe and you know, not a
joke and you know, I'm not trying to be facetious,
and it's all the same crap with him all the time.
He'll get up there, he'll do that, and all summer,
all will be when you're talking about that middle ten percent.
Our people already know. Anybody who's conservative, anybody who looks
at you know there gets their information honestly online more
(12:19):
than they do. But people who watch CBS News, people
who read USA Today occasionally, you know, people who are
very casual observers of the news are going to be
blasted all summer with Joe Biden's fine. Here's this clip
from the debate. Look at him. He beat Trump in
the debate. I'm not saying that that's even true. I'm
(12:41):
just telling you they're going to blanket the airwaves with
It's not as bad as you've been told. Look at
Joe up on the debate stage. That's the only why
else would they have a debate in June.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, my theory is that he's got to get over
the hump and prove that he can do it. A
couple of things on this, Well, let's talk about it
when we come back, because I got two thoughts.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think you're hitting on something that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I do agree with, and that is the low information
voter who still watches CBS evening News or whatever else.
They really aren't as plugged in as crazily the young
voter on TikTok, because think about this, Trump may beat
Biden eighteen to twenty nine year olds. Do you know
the strongest voting group right now for Joe Biden in
(13:22):
the entire country? Voters over sixty five. They are breaking
overwhelmingly for Joe Biden. I think that's staggering to a
lot of people because you tend to think, oh, those
young whipper snapper idiots, they don't know any better. They're
actually potentially going to vote for Trump. According to Axios
(13:43):
this morning, over sixty five is the group that Joe
Biden is doing best with.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's kind of staggering to me.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And then but you make the argument, these are the
people that are still watching the CBS evening news. They're
more propagandized. If you want to be really concerned about
the future of the public, look at Republic, look at
you know, we make fun of the view if you
has two million viewers every year, I mean, it's it's
an institution for people who don't really like to read.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But true.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
But there's also I mean, these these big broadcast news
channels do these thirty minute news shows. They still have
millions and millions of people watching every night, and we
didn't even We're always talking about the cable news because
that's oh FSNBC was amazing, it was. It was amazing
this morning. I even made Kerry come in and watch
someone with me. But the other news channels have much bigger.
I mean, who's the guy who's just like Captain Handsome.
(14:34):
I don't even know his daming mirror, is it? Yeah, exactly.
He is a really good looking man, handsome man. I mean, look,
we're both married guys. He's a handsome man, you know,
but I don't know what he does other than be handsome.
But he's got like six million viewers a night or something.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, Bill Malugin or David muirr better looking man on television.
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Speaker 3 (16:05):
A few things we're gonna be talking about the latest
in Trump arrangement on TV. We've got some clips for
you from over at MSNBC. And I asked Clay, I said, Clay,
can I just dive in a little bit here into
my new morning habit as I'm drinking my Crocket coffee
because I love America and that's the thing it keeps
(16:26):
the Crocket coffee keeps me tethered to freedom, the Constitution,
and the greatness of these United States. While I am
watching the comedy propaganda channel that is MSNBC and.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
This morning it's funny to Carrie walked in. She's like,
what are you watching?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I was like, honey, Scarborough is giving Biden a BackRub
on TV again. It's amazing. It's amazing watching them do this.
And you also have Mika who while Joe is talking,
You've ever noticed I don't see this in any other
show SHOs Oh yeah, yeah, oh absolutely. She sort of
creates a little amen corner effect for her. Oh oh gosh,
oh yeah, oh gosh. You know, she's just just and
(17:05):
they're they're married now, so you know it's husband and
wife team up there on the TV.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So what I thought was so interesting is I am
not taking these out of order, at least not to
my recollection. I took a couple of quick notes on it.
First off, the Supreme Court decision comes down, and they're
very upset by but not only they upset by the
Supreme Court decision, which this was banning bump stocks through
(17:31):
an ATF regulation, a little bit like what they tried
to do with pistol, with what's called the pistol brace.
ATF was also going to ban that. Now they've stayed
that ban I think pending more comment or something whatever,
but that they ended up not doing. So they're very upset,
but they have to make sure everyone knows how smart
soda Myor is. So the legal anow if you're going
(17:53):
to go on MSNBC and do legal analysis, the requirement
is to genuflect at the statue of soda Mayor first.
That's always I think it. You can also do this
for you know, you can also genuflex a Katangi, Brown,
Jackson or Kagan, But really Sotomor seems to be their
their favorite choice because she's the most activist uh left,
she's the most activist left winger on the court. Then
(18:14):
we then we pand over to an author and I'm
not kidding. The title of the book is what is
wrong with Capitalism? Okay, so the so they have a
guy who's up there is talking. The title of the
book is What's wrong with Capitalism? So when I say
comedy propaganda, I want everyone understand they're having dudes on
the Meek and Joe or We're tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
All their friends belong to you.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Know, country clubs with six figure entry fees and and
you know they go back and forth from the Hamptons
and Nantucket to you know, the Upper East Side or whatever.
But they're having people on to talk about what's wrong
with capitalism. Oh okay, okay, fine, Then Clay, they switch over.
I'm taking you through this scene by scene. Then they
switch over to outrage that Elon Musk is finally getting
(19:01):
his pay package at Tesla. The Tesla voters once again
voted to give Elon this pay package because he's, let's
be honest, the you know, most impressive executive living today
in terms of what he has built and what he
has come from with it. But they're very upset about
that Elon Musk. So they're huffy about Elon's pay package.
(19:24):
They've got some guy I don't even know who he
is who's like, oh, this is an outrage. Then they
switch over to a They have a a playwright. He
is a gay black man named Jeremy o'harris, and he's
he's doing a segment called slave you know about his
(19:44):
Broadway play called slave Play. Not a movie, a play.
Then they transition to Trump's birthday and immediately talk about
how on Trump's birthday he is quote returning to the
scene of the crime on Capitol Hill. Okay, the see
the crime and then finally Clay they switched to On
the screen, it says Liz Cheney, history will forever remember
(20:08):
the shame of Mitch McConnell. Like this is just wham wham,
like one after another left wing stuff on the screen.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I sit here and I just look at this. I'm like,
these people are living in an alternate universe.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
They're living in an alternate reality where it's it has
to be either you know, anti capitalists, anti Trump, very woke,
very DEI.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But this is what people are consuming over there all
day long.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So this I would like to actually see the data
on because I talk to you about the fact that
in the morning, my house is kind of chaos. So
I've been going on Fox and Friends for years now.
I can't speak to every segment that they do, but
a lot of Fox and Friends is very light morning
(20:59):
televis vision shows. That's not to say you're not going
to get stories about the border or interviews with newsmakers,
but it's also you know, hey, moms and dads are
getting ready for school.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
In the morning, kids are around.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's not you know, the Today Show is typically not
going to be hard hitting journalism every segment, Right, Who
do you think the viewer is, Oh, I know MSNBC
Morning Joe, like you know, who is the average person?
If you had to like my and I'll give you
like Fox and Friends, I would say that it's like a.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Forty eight year old mom or.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Dad of a couple of kids getting ready for school,
is what I would say. The average viewer of a
Fox and Friends would be in the middle part of
the country who's watching MSNBC and getting what you just
described is basically strident political propaganda to start their day.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I mean, you know this is I can sort of
do it by region for you. But in DC, it's
government employees making sense figures.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Okay, it makes a little bit of sense because those
people are in the political sphere. Yeah, that one I get,
but like, yes, but okay, But the point is it's
people that are making one hundred and twenty to one
hundred and eighty grand in the DC metro area, but
dual income household they probably but you know, one of
them has a job at the Department of you know,
the Interior, and the other one has a job at
(22:26):
the State Department, and they have a combined income of
like three hundred grand, and they just want to sneer
at Trump all and Trump voters all day and feel
good about themselves.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
You also have the at the sort of higher economic
end of the scale, the people that are lobbyists and
and that have started government contracting and consulting agencies. They
live in multimillion dollar mansions in Colorama, in Fairfax County,
Calorama being in DC Fairfax County if they want more
(22:56):
of that suburban vibe.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
And their whole thing is that.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
They're riddled with white guilt, so they want to watch
a show that's constantly reinforcing how democrats care so much
about the poor and about DEEI stuff right New York City.
You just change around the profession in la same thing.
You just changed around the profession. But it's basically the
same demo. But it's overwhelmingly upper income, smug white Democrats.
(23:24):
I know they also have minorities watched too, but I'm
talking about the primary smug white Democrats who want to
feel good about themselves and have a group of people
at table, in this case Morning Joe telling them they
are smarter and better people than the other meaning Republicans
and Trump voters. And that's the whole I mean, I
went through the topics capitalism is bad, a play about slavery,
(23:45):
Trump is a criminal, Trump is a criminal, and Mitch
McConnell should be ashamed of himself. Like this is like
the morning fare they offer over there. It just sounds miserable.
I mean I did early morning radio.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
My thought process in early morning radio and obviously sports
talk radio was we're gonna sometimes talk about serious things,
because there are serious that COVID happened, right, But in
general I want to do a fun show that makes
people laugh and it can still do serious discussion. But
people with most people and we're we're building out an
(24:23):
out kick show right now. Most people don't roll out
of bed and just want to be told that the
world is awful. Right maybe later in the day you're
ready for shows are supposed to look I did.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I launched what is now called Rising. I was the
first host with Crystal Ball True Story. We launched Rising,
and we knew that there had to be like a
little more like you know.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Hey, everybody like welcome, like good morning, like it's good morning.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I mean, they can't be like and they do cooking
on these shows, a Stalinist table pounding right away, no
matter how much of a left winger somebody may be
or you know, right wing, which is what surprises me
about that show's success. I get that there's a market
the one you hit that I that I said immediately, okay,
that makes sense if you're in the political DC ecosystem
(25:07):
and you want to know what the talking points are
for the day for people on the left in the country.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Morning Joe has sort of occupied that lane.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
That makes some sense, But there's not that many of
those people right in the grand numbers. So the idea
that you would want to wake up and early in
the morning be like, I want to watch an interview
with a guy who says capitalism is awful, while, as
you point out, relishing all of the benefits of capitalism from.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Your One of their biggest sponsors is Starbucks. So yeah,
MSNBC's Morning Joe Capitalism is awful, brought to you by Starbucks. Like,
this is what's actually happening over there. The hypocrisy, the
whole thing is so absurd. The the the moral preening.
They pretend to care so much about trans rites and
(25:53):
and you know, and the black community and.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Joe Scarbamiko Brusinski. They have all just it's all just
a calm.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
They don't care about any of that. They don't care
about any of those people. But their audience of people
worth you know, two to ten million dollars who live
in Chevy Chase, they care to pretend that they care
about that.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
You know, in the morning.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Like to your point, I understand if you're watching Fox
Business or you're watching CNBC. To me, those are high
net worth people who want to know what the latest
business stories are. It's not necessarily again a huge population.
But I know Fox and Friends fairly well. I don't
think they have the same tone as the as the
(26:39):
Morning Joe Show.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Now it's been fair I have it there, you're not
sitting there. And first of all, I mean I've seen
it a fair amount. I haven't I haven't really watched
much Fox for a while, but I've seen the fair
amount of it over the years. And you know, Deucey
tries to Doucey Senior tries to play it pretty straight.
Usually you know, kill me gives a little more of
the of the conservative side of the news analysis, I
(27:01):
would say, And and uh uh Ainsley as Ainsley is
basically doing news in commentary, but you know she's not
attacking anybody. Yeah, so it's a very different feeling. It's
there's a there's a I'm telling you, the whole Morning
Joe thing is it's like recreating for insecure people who
haven't achieved despite all their resume bullets, what they wanted
(27:22):
in life. Morning Joe is an invitation to sit at
the cool kids table, but they're actually not cool and
they're not good at anything.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes, I mean, I just you know, like if you
had a we have a coffee company, and they have that.
You may have heard they have the test of like,
whoever's gonna win this election is going to be the
guy you'd most likely to have a beer with. Now,
either Trump nor Biden drink, but that's been a regular test.
I would say in morning television, the winner would be
(27:52):
the people you'd most like to have a cup of
coffee with. Back in the day, Katie Curican before the
Matt Lauer got you know me tooed they it seemed
like fairly easy going, like, hey, let's have a cup
of coffee with these guys. The Scarborough strident propaganda. I'm
surprised there's an audience that early in the morning for
strident propaganda. I I just am and you probably have
(28:15):
nailed who exactly is watching that, But man, what a
just awful way to start your momd Like I make
fun of the view, but at least in the view.
I know it's a little bit later in the day,
but at least they do have lighthearted elements. I can
see why it would be appealing to a suburban mom
occasionally to watch the view, Like I don't I think
(28:35):
the people on there primarily idiots, but I can see
why that would be an enjoyable show. The Morning Joe
thing of just telling you things that you that are
directly contradictory to what you see with your own eyes.
That seems like an awful viewing.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But the reason that I do this now, I mean
one is that I just find it. I find it
a music because it's worse than I had. You know,
we usually just look at the clips, right when you
look at the full content wheel, when you look at
the editorial decisions being made, it's it's a you know,
I'm familiar with indoctrination, might even have a book coming
(29:10):
out that deals with it. So I sit there and
I go through, like what they're trying to present and
why they're doing this for their audience. They are presenting
really an alternate reality for yeah, and and it's very
stage managed, in stage crafted. And I understand by the
way that they will say the same thing about Fox
and they'll say the same thing about Fox and Friends.
But but hold on a second, to the point that
(29:32):
I'm making Fox and Friends is not it's not nasty.
It's not a constant like assault of the other side.
And they, you know, they do like, hey, here's a
guy at a diner and like here's like a you know,
a pie eating contest, and like here's a country music band.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
They have the.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Hill today, Like it's a different thing, the the most
and the reason I keep honing in on them on
their morning show is I'm telling you this is their
this is their flagship for this election. Morning Joe has
become the Democrat flagship. So if you want to understand
the messaging that will filter out everywhere else. You know,
(30:08):
it used to be mad Out eight pm MSNBC. Before that,
it was Anderson Cooper at CNN. Like, if you want
to see what the messaging is to, I mean, but
I do it so you don't have to. Obviously, I
get that right, like this is this is my job.
But it is remarkable to see how consistent it is.
And also, Clay, I mean, the the the obsession in
(30:28):
all regards with DEI over there is you can just
tell everything happened. There's always a Dei angle to every
segment effected everything, whether it's who's on the segment, or
how they're approaching the segment, or the you know, analysis
in the segment. Dei is really the central religious principle
of the left. Well, everybody on that show, ironically, of course,
(30:49):
is white.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, they have a rich white people who have a
lot of minority guests on and they are very Oh
you're amazing, amazing, You're amazing. And this is why I
say the audience is predominantly you know. It's it's like
a government contractor and a uh, you know, State department
employee who live in you know, Georgetown, and this is
(31:14):
their worldview and they want to think that they're really
they really care about.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
You know, the oppressed or the dei or whatever. There
you go.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'm just telling people, no, I think it's fun. I
think it's it's wild. I've never watched the show other
than the play.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I'm just telling you guys. What's going to be really
fun is I on election night? God God willing Trump wins.
I'm only watching MSNBC. I'm only watching cause any it's
so fun. If I was watching twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen
when they were figuring out that Trump loss may have
been the greatest moment in TV, I mean, sorry, Trump
won and Hillary loss may have been the greatest moment
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Speaker 2 (33:00):
Before we dive into this, Caitlin Clark Frenzy, I just
got a request for comment from NBC News and it
ties in so perfectly with what we were just discussing
about Morning Joe. The request is they're doing a story
(33:21):
NBC has They say that Joe Biden was walking away
and they claim that he was walking away to congratulate people.
And they're asking for a comment because they are doing
a story saying that Joe Biden is being unfairly criticized
(33:42):
for not being on top of the.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Not being on top of the story.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So I don't know that they will officially use my comment,
but I just tweeted my comment.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
You can watch the Evening News and see if they
use it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
NBC News has asked for a comment about me sharing
a video of Joe Biden. Joe Biden wondering away at
the G seven yesterday. They say he's sharp as attack
and I'm sharing misinformation. My comment for them, Joe Biden
has dementia and isn't fit to be president. Pretending otherwise
is a lie. Let's see if quote from Clay Travis.
(34:23):
Since they wanted a comment, Let's see whether or not
they actually share that comment with their audience. So just FYI,
you may see a hit piece coming on your your
favorite Clay and Buck show here over misinformation that we're
sharing about Joe Biden. But I do think it ties
(34:44):
in so well with what you just said about MSNBC
and the Morning Joe Show where they specifically said it's fun.
We played that clip from his advisor saying we need
more censorship and we need the media to call out dishonesty.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
So I do think one thing that will be really
interesting in this election that hasn't been the case in
a while, and that is they don't have full control
of the social media environment the way they had for
the previous I mean, I think you could take really
(35:20):
it all the way back to two thousand and eight, maybe,
you know, I mean that's now that was Facebook, not
so much Twitter when a Twitter gets started two thousand
and nine, twenty ten. But Facebook was. But Facebook was
a monster in two thousand and eight, enormously influential in
the and Google. So between Facebook and Google, they had
total information dominance for Obama, for Obama for two terms.
(35:45):
And then twenty sixteen, people would say, well, how did
Trump win? Remember Trump was a Trump was a punchline
to the Democrat elites. They thought that they were leading
Hillary to certain victory by sharing his stuff. They turn
that around in twenty twenty, as we saw, and they
clamp down on it all and they suppress the laptop,
(36:07):
but they also suppress the truth about COVID, and they
also suppress questions about the election and all of that
right thanks to Elon. And I don't like sounding like
a fanboy about anybody, but I mean Elon is very impressive.
Thanks to Elon. This time around, they won't be able
to just shut down things they don't like, the same way.
(36:28):
You won't have the collusion of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
which is owned by Facebook, TikTok all they able to
just say nope, sorry, that clip of Biden where he
looks like he's having a stroke is fake.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
They won't be able to do that if a clip like.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That emerges because Twitter. The difference in Twitter and truth.
I love truth, I'm on truth, but Twitter has the
journals are all still on it. They said they were
going to leave, they didn't. It still is an ecosystem
that reaches is a critical mass where the story gets out.
And that's very different in this election cycle than the
(37:07):
last one where they, as we know, they just said no,
can't talk about that, can't share that.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
What do you think the odds are they take my
quote and share it in their story? What was your
did you already say what I just tweeted it out. Yeah,
I said that they want, you know, the video which
we talked about of Biden being lost. We talked about
how it's being covered in Italy. I said, Joe Biden
(37:34):
has dementia and isn't fit to be president. Pretending otherwise
is a lie. That's my official comment to NBC News
on their accusing of me of sharing misinformation.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Because because you you know, I mean, you know as
well as anybody how to play this game to win,
you can never give them a quote about what they
want you to say, because they're just I've learned those
I've gotten you know, Politico has done this to me
before and others where they.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Say, hey, do you want to way in the story.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You have to make sure that the sentence would make
no sense if they did anything to it other than
share the whole thing, and you have to go on
offense right away.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
This is what Trump, which is exactly what I did.
I just tweeted it out. Their story isn't out. I
know you, but I'm saying you know everybody because if.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
You say, well, you know, I really like to think,
then it's you know, disinformation spreader Clay Travis with some
weak sauce quote.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Here you go. That's why you've got to say.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I don't like speaking to regime media communists like you,
But if I am going to speak to commedi's like you,
let me just say that Joe Biden, basically, what you did,
Joe Biden is a joke and a Traves team.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
We can all see it.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
So you got to get your you know, that's that's
the way, because they will misrepresent whatever you say if
you try to stay on the within the guidelines they
give you. It's a trap, it's an ambush.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
This is true.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And I used to do to CNN too. They'd ask
you a question. They'd always ask a question like, hey, like,
what do you think about all the white nationalists voting
for Trump? I mean, doesn't that make everybody on it
for trumpa white nationalists? If you start to answer it
with well, if you look at the numbers, there are
actually a lot of really nice no, no, no, you got
to say you're a bunch of line communists. This question
is trash.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And you know what I mean, you got to start right.
You also have to I think, request the questions in
writing and then respond to them. In writing, which is
far better than if you talk to somebody for I mean,
I've had to explain this to people, and I understand
some of you maybe never even thought about this. But
(39:32):
the media, somebody will talk to you for thirty minutes
and they will take one sentence that you talk to
them about and take that quote completely out of context
because they've probably already got the story that they want
to write written and they don't want that to actually
be visible. They don't want you to be able to
(39:52):
influence what they're trying to say.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Should we play? Let me play this.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
We were going to get into Caitlin Clark, but this
all kind of kind rolled in together. Uh, let me
hit Let me hit this From Caitlin Clark, she was
asked before her game yesterday, Hey, what do you think
about all the sexists and all of the homophobes and
all of the racist people who like you?
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I'm not even kidding. Let's do we have the full
question as well as her answer? I hope we have both,
but here it is I.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Wonder from you at the same point, how do you
feel about people in using the young there in whatever
culture wars or whatever wars.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Or the flight how do you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
It's not something I can control, so you know, I
don't put too much thought in time into thinking about
things like that, And to be honest, I don't see
a lot of it.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Like I said, like the basketball is my.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Job, like everything on the outside, I can't control that.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
So I'm not going to spend.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Time thinking about that.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
You know. People can talk.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
About what they want to talk.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
About, seeing conversations about, you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
But I think for myself, like, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I'm just here to play basketball.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
I'm here to have fun.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
I'm trying to help our team win, you know my purposes.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I'm helping us do that.
Speaker 7 (40:59):
But I don't pay a bunch of mind.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
For all of that, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Okay, that's one of the answers. The other one is
she specifically and will play that for you when we
come back, she specifically asked. Because that answer wasn't good enough,
she specifically asked about the fact that there are racist
and sexist and homophobic people according to that individual who
are who are fans of Caitlin Clark, and therefore that
(41:26):
should not be allowed to actually take place.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
We'll play that when we come back.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Also, our buddy Jesse Kelly's going to be with us
in the final hour as well. That's gonna be fun.
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Joy now Buckets holding it up. For those of you
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that is out and will and already is I'm sure
another monster bestseller.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Jack.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I think the last time we saw you was in
Park City. We had a meet up. It was awesome
to get see in person. The books are phenomenal. I'm
curious for you. How has the process of writing these
books changed, if at all, for you and as they
get more popular or does that make you feel more
(43:40):
pressure or less because I imagine when you sat down
and wrote the first one, you're like, man, I hope
people are going to read it. Now that you know
millions of people are reading more or less pressure for
each new book.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Well, I han't.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
I hadn't thought about it in those terms to tell
you just mentioned it.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
So now I'm feeling suppression.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Now you're rattled in your head. I take it back.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
You're going to have to get a sports psychologist for writing.
But it is kind of got to be amazing to
go from nothing to millions of people reading your books
every single time they come out.
Speaker 7 (44:10):
Yeah, you know, it's always for me. It's always about learning,
it's always about getting better. In the military, I was
a student of warfare my whole life. I've been a
student of warfare, trying to prepare myself to be the
best leader and operator I could be in the steal
teams because I knew I wanted to do that from
a very early age. And then same thing with writing.
My mom's librarians. I grew up surrounded by books and
love of reading, so I got to experience all these
(44:31):
amazing authors without the filters that come maybe down the
line with age and other distractions and responsibilities.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
So I was reading like Nelson de mill A, J.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Quinel, JC Pollock, Mark Olden and Tom Clancy, all these
guys that were masters of the craft and were really
my professors in the art of storytelling, so I had
this solid foundation and my process. The only way that
it has really changed over the years is that I
remain a student of the craft and I am focused
on getting better and better with each one. So I
(45:01):
want the next book to be better than Redsky Morning.
I want my next social post to add more value
to someone's lives than the one before it. The next blog,
same thing, next podcast, same So I'm always looking at
ways to add value to people's lives because they're trusting
me with time they're never getting back, and that's something
I take extremely seriously. So it's always about constant improvement
(45:24):
for me.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
It's about how we try to approach radio too.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Jack, We're like, we are very blessed that people give
us the time that they do, and certainly you're very
blessed that people give.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
You the time they do with reading these fantastic books.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Terminalist series has been a huge, huge success, stretching back
for years now, many books, and I'm wondering, you know
James Reese. Obviously, he's the central character once again in
this one, played memorably by Chris Pratt, one of my
favorite actors out there. In Hollywood in the Amazon version
(45:56):
of The Terminalist Season one. Can you give us any
is there any talk any scuttle but about Terminalists Season
two at some point or where do things stand?
Speaker 5 (46:06):
Yeah, so we're you know, on Amazon.
Speaker 7 (46:07):
I'll never share the exact numbers with us and Matt
data all the streaming services hold.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
That data close hole.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
But the indications are that it was quite successful, which
is why we have two shows in the works right now.
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Speaker 5 (46:28):
Day eightieth anniversary commemoration events.
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For another two weeks with forty eight World War Two veterans.
Just got back two days ago, and I'll be heading
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Well, that is awesome.
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we're very we're very cheap dates, you know, you just
bring us over there. And we'll we'll advise as best
we can.
Speaker 7 (47:00):
Let's do it as you guys love it over there.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
It's really interesting.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
I was there before I went into the Navy, so
there in nineteen ninety four. It was my first time
back in nineteen ninety four. And it's amazing how much
money is in Budapest right now. You see Russian money,
you see Ukrainian money. That I'm getting is actually our
money in Chinese money.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
And the hotel I.
Speaker 7 (47:20):
Was staying at, I mean there are two Lamborghinis every day,
two Ferrari, two families. Porsches are diamond dozen. It is
absolutely incredible to see. And it's a very clean, safe city.
I had to do a long walk across the city
one night after a after viewing actually episode one at
a buddy's place across town. And I had previously, about
a month and a half two months earlier, walked acrossrom
(47:41):
New York because I thought that the Times Square cafe
was close to Times Square, and so I thought, I'll
just walk, you know, a couple of blocks to my hotel.
And it turns out that maybe at one point it was,
but now it's like it seems like it was across
the city, so I felt like I was on E
and E as I made my way back to my
hotel near the actual Times Square from the Times Square Cafe.
But it's an amazing city, remarkable how clean and safe
(48:05):
it is. So it'll probably make its way into a
future novel. But give us a lot to work with
as far as the locations as well for the show.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Jack, as a guy you mentioned who studied military history,
and obviously you served and I'm sure learned so much
of that as the process, what was it like to
be in Normandy for the eightieth anniversary of D Day?
And as someone who is a military historian, what did
walking that ground do for you in terms of crystallizing
(48:33):
what actually took place in that day, on that day
eighty years ago and all the days that followed it
as they advanced across France.
Speaker 7 (48:41):
Yes, I meanished my fourth time there first when I
was young nineteen ninety four. I went back two thousand
and two and went back to the seventy eighth as
well seventy eighth anniversary commemoration events two years ago with
the Best Defense Foundation, which is a foundation that takes
World War Two veterans back to the battlefield on which
they fought. Did that with my daughter actually who is
she's eighteen now, so she was with me now for
(49:03):
this one on the Adioth and we had forty eight
World War Two veterans, all of them near at or
over one hundred years old. Sow you're volunteering, helping getting
them hit out of their wheelchairs to and from their rooms,
making sure that they're eating, making sure they're taking their
their medicine, making sure that getting them to all these
different events, because it's about two weeks of events. It's
not just June sixth, It is a full two week event.
(49:26):
Two weeks of events, and that's pretty tiring for someone
that's one hundred years old. But to be there and
to have my daughter actually talking to someone on Omaha
Beach who was first out of his landing craft that day,
and to ad him pointing out the machine gun positions
on the cliffs above and telling her that story, and
me watching it and listening, it's just something I can't
(49:48):
really put into words. But what was evident in the
seventy eighth and also for this that stands out to
me the most is how people of northern France have
not forgotten what was done for them for us by
the Americans. There are more American flags in northern France
during June than I've.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
Ever seen on the fourth of July in the United States.
Speaker 7 (50:08):
Eighty second airborn flags, hundred and first airborne flags. Everyone's
dressed up in period military uniforms, military jeeps from the
forties everywhere, old Indian and Harley David, the.
Speaker 5 (50:19):
Motorcycles from that era.
Speaker 7 (50:21):
It is absolutely incredible and you can see it in
their eyes. And it's not just the older people, it's
the young ones. And that's what stands out. They have
passed on this gratitude.
Speaker 5 (50:29):
Down multi generational now.
Speaker 7 (50:31):
And we went to a school visit so age let's
say five up to let's say.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Thirteen, and flags everywhere, and look.
Speaker 7 (50:39):
They just want to touch these veterans, shake their hands,
look into the I state thank you. We have baseball
cards with the veterans pictures on it and their stats
on the back of what they did in World War
Two getting signatures.
Speaker 5 (50:49):
These guys are totally treated like rock.
Speaker 7 (50:50):
Stars over there, and it's I can't help but think
there would be a little different here in the United States.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
That they showed up at a school here, but to
see that.
Speaker 7 (50:59):
Wish every American could see what goes on in Normandy
in June. And after the last of you guys are
gone a few years, I bet they still passed those
lessons on because they've done it since the forties and
it is just as powerful now as it was when
I saw it in the seventy eighth and they continue
to pass this down through the generation.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
So that's pretty cool to see.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
We've got a number one wreck here for you right
now for a book for today.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Isn't Father's Day coming up soon? Hey? There you go,
jackcar right.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
My father in law is a big Jackcar reader, so
I got to get all the good jackcar stuff and
send it along because he reads them voraciously. Jackcar Red
Sky Morning. I'm holding it up here, the latest in
the James Reese thriller series of The Terminalists. It's phenomenal, obviously,
I'm so legitimly. I saw every episode of The Terminalists
on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
It was great. We talked about that.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
We saw you in Utah and the prequel story in
Budapest sounds really cool and I've always wanted to go
to Budapest just as it aside. You were talking about
being in Normandy, obviously very moving, historically so so poignant
and powerful. I gave Clay a recommendation. We all know
Saving Private Ryan, amazing movie. We all know Banded Brothers,
amazing TV series, right like, we put those aside just
(52:11):
because I assume everybody listening has seen those, pretty much
like I don't think anybody has missed either of those.
But I said, for Clay, if you want something world
War two that is a little less well known, well
one that he hadn't seen and one that was less
well known, I gave him Gosh, I'm forgetting Hacksaw Ridge,
Hacksaw Ridge, and I gave him Hacksaw Ridge and Downfall
(52:33):
in German in the original German language.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
What would you for this weekend?
Speaker 3 (52:37):
If somebody wanted to watch something World War two based
Jack while they're taking a break from reading Red Sky Morning,
what would you tell them?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
What would be your wreck?
Speaker 7 (52:46):
I mean you got to go back and rewatch Band
of Brothers with for your family, if your kids haven't
seen it, watched Band of Brothers in its entirety with
your family. That would be the number one recommendation. But
it's really interesting is that when we think of out
those movies. We think about Saving Private Ryan, we think
about The Longest Day. If people haven't seen The Longest
Day from the sixties in black and white, should go
back and watch that. But because Tom Hanks, let's say,
(53:08):
what was he when he made that Saving Private Ryan?
Like forty five is.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
Somewhere in there same thing with Longest Day. John Wayne's
in the Longest Day.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
But then you think about the ages of these guys
who stormed the beaches at Normandy and that jumped out
of the planes and came in the gliders in.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
June of nineteen forty four. They weren't those ages. They
were young.
Speaker 7 (53:28):
They I was with guys this weekend or this past
week that lied about their age to get in. They
were fifteen years old. They lied to get into fight.
You have kids storming the beaches at seventeen, eighteen, nineteen.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
Twenty years old.
Speaker 7 (53:38):
That's the age of the people that fought their way
into France, across France into Germany, all the way to Berlin.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
And we tend to forget how.
Speaker 7 (53:46):
Young they were when we think about because of Hollywood,
because of the power of popular culture, and in Tom
Hanks and John Wayne and all these people that starred
in these World War two films, they were a lot
older typically than the kids who actually fought and won
the war.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
No doubt. Well that's an amazing way to finish. One
last question for you.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
You're talking about making the television shows, writing the books,
getting better. How do you balance your time? Well, you
got kids, You've got so many different obligations. Now success
can bring more obligations and opportunities. What's advice for you
to people out there trying to balance work life? They
have different jobs, But what have you found to be
useful with all the things that you've got going on
(54:27):
right now?
Speaker 7 (54:28):
Well, I'm still working on it because there's so much
going on. Toy are out here all the time, through kids, wife, dog,
getting the kids, the camps, getting.
Speaker 5 (54:37):
Them to school. So typically what I need is uninterrupted
time in order to write, which now.
Speaker 7 (54:43):
Happens when everyone else is asleep, so that happens between
ten and night and three in the morning.
Speaker 5 (54:48):
So there's some things that are just.
Speaker 7 (54:49):
Going to fall off the list, like maybe nutrition, sleep,
and working out, So those things need to be added
back in here eventually. But at this phase, it's been
all it's been a full on sprint. It's been obviously
putting all my heart and soul into every single word
that goes into any one of these books or a
blog post.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
Or whatever I'm doing. So I'm still working on that.
Speaker 7 (55:08):
So advice being is that prioritized next to you, same
thing as the battlefield. So I had to focus on
this book till it was the best it could possibly be.
Then got that to New York, switch over, start working
on scripts for the show. Focus on that, and then
we'll move over to the next thing. I have my
first non fiction coming out in the fall in the
nineteen eighty three Babu Barret's bombing, So that comes out
(55:28):
in September, and so there's a lot of things going on,
but I need to focus on.
Speaker 5 (55:31):
One or the time.
Speaker 7 (55:32):
This overlap in there, but I find that I need
to focus on one thing at the time and then
move to the next project rather than continue to juggle
a gazillion pace that once, because there's going to be
a good of things you.
Speaker 5 (55:42):
Have to juggle.
Speaker 7 (55:42):
You can't just focus on one thing in life. The neglect, family,
neglect everything. There's some things you have to but professionally
focusing on one, getting that the best, it can possibly
be before switching gears to.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
The other Jack, keep it up. We love it and
know how busy you are. Appreciate the time, good luck
in the new stories coming out, and definitely that book
coming out in the fall nonfiction sounds fantastic.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
Appreciate the time. Thanks for everything you did with all
the veterans.
Speaker 5 (56:07):
God, thanks so much. You get to take care.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
Thank you. Check ard new book, Red Sky at morning.
It's out.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Also, we want to tell you as we go into
break here final break of the week, on any given
day in the cities, towns, and villages in Israel, you're
likely to hear air raid sirens warning people of incoming missiles.
It's something we can't really imagine here in the United States.
It's a way of life for Israelis. So one of
the reasons we're partnering with the International Fellowship of Christians
and Jews the IFCJ. This is an organization going the
(56:37):
distance to show israelis they're not alone, that people will
halfway around the world care about them their safety. Join
us and stand with the IFCJ. This month, we're asking
you to sign a pledge which will be delivered to
the President of Israel to show Christians and Jews in
America are supporting them in their time of need. I'm
going to be over in Israel early in August doing
(56:58):
the radio show there to help show that indication of
support as well. You can sign the pledge go to
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