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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, thank you
so much for being here with us. I wanted to
talk a little bit about the Supreme Court decision that's
going to be coming down soon, and I think it's
expected to go the way of the Conservatives on the
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flour by four or so. It might be six y three.
But it's important. It's important because it goes to whether
or not you can camp out on the street, whether
you can camp on the street, whether you can set
up tents and public parks. It's about the city of
Grant's Pass, Oregon. I did a little reading about this.
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I know we've got a big station k e X
out in Portland and we've got people listening. In the
state of Oregon, Grant's Pass is like thirty thousand people.
I guess that qualifies as a small city, large town
somewhere between. And they have an ordinance that you are
not allowed to sleep on public property. And the reason
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they have this is because what ends up occurring is
people set up tense and other shacks, whatever, shanties, whatever
you want to call them, and and they set up
they set these up and they live there. Now, you
might say, is that necessarily a bad thing. And the
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answer is yes, it is because of what ends up
invariably happening when people live in places that are not
meant for living, and also the kind of people who
overwhelmingly are going to be the ones who are choosing
to live on you know, a basically public square or
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in a park in some area, whether it's you know,
a highway underpass, whatever. If you live in LA you've
seen a lot of this. There's a lot of this
in Austin, Texas that I've seen, and you have some
cities that have finally just said enough is enough. Because
here's I'll get into the Supreme Court argument of this
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in a second. Here's what has happened though, And I
think that this accelerated a lot during COVID and it
has become an even bigger problem. You've had the broad
effort to decriminalize a lot of crime. And this comes
out of the George Floyd stuff, the protests and BLM
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and all this. But there's been a broad effort to
decriminalize crime. And we talk about it a lot here
on the show. Things like you won't get arrested if
you don't steal over nine hundred dollars of stuff. That
was the law in California. Basically, you will no longer
be arrested for public urination, public drunkenness, sleeping on the street, obviously, stealing,
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all kinds of shoplifting things like that, doing drugs out
in the open, and this which has largely ruined the
downtowns of some of the most major cities in America,
and particularly on the West coast in the Pacific Northwest,
Seattle and Portland and San Francisco. They all come to
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mind as being examples of this. And for a while
it was, oh, this is just some right wing thing,
it's not really true. Now they've had to admit that
it is a problem, because here's what ends up happening.
Here's the problem you get when you have people that
are sleeping out in these public areas. They generally are
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individuals who are drug addicted. Now that's a generalization, I know,
but the percentages either drug or alcohol addicted very high,
very high incidents of mental health problems and not getting
helpful it. Obviously they're living on the streets, and then
what happens is you have more and more people congregating
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in that area, you have waste disposal issues, trash everywhere.
You have people who are urinating and defecating in public,
in broad daylight, in full view of everybody else. It's unsanitary.
It's unsanitary for the people who live in the encamment,
it's unsanitary the people around the encampment. And then when
you have a congregation of drug addicts, what do you
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have you have more drug use? With the increase in
that drug use, what do you have a need to
be able to pay for the drugs that one is getting.
So then you start to have more petty crime, more theft,
and it just spirals. It's spirals, and it really begins
in a lot of these places with these with these
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ordinances on camping, with these prohibitions on I mean, camping
isn't the right you know, homeless tents on the street
and the sidewalk is really what this is about. I mean,
you see, like downtown Austin. Austin's an awesome city in
so many ways, amazing food and the river and the
lake and you know, oh it's so cool. I really
like Austin, but there are ten cities, little pockets of
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I think it's gotten maybe a little better in recent years.
I haven't been in a couple of years, but when
I was there, there are ten cities all over the place,
and this isn't good for anybody, and for these towns
that have so many rules. I mean, I live in
Miami Beach. I can't widen a staircase in Miami Beach
without you know, three months of approval and all this
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other stuff. There's so many rules, so many laws at
all these places. But the Democrats and these different NGOs
and nonprofits, and the leftists Kagan Sonomayor and Catanji Brown
Jackson on the court clearly want to make it so
you're not allowed to ban encampments. I mean, this decision
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hasn't come down yet, but I can assure you it's
very likely all three of them are going to say
this is, you know, a human rights violation. To give
you a sense of it, the issue at hand is
whether the enforcement of generally applicable laws regarding camping on
public property constitutes a violation of the Eighth Amendment cruel
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and unusual punishment. So what the leftists are doing is saying,
if you don't want congregations of homeless people, notice, they
want to call it unhoused now as and I explain
why that is unhoused. All you have to do is
change to prefix, give them housing. Now they're housed. Problem solved,
But actually the problem is not solved. A lot of
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the people who are unhoused. You could give free housing too,
And this happens all the time, and they still have
drug addiction problems, and they still can't support themselves, and
they still don't have a job, and a lot of
the time they still end up and choose to be
out on the streets because that's that is the choice
there is. There are whole populations that homelessness by choice
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is a real thing. You've written about the New York Times.
People they don't want to check in at a shelter,
they don't want to deal with the public housing authority
or anything like that. They want to do exactly what
they want to do, which is be out in the
open bed for money, maybe steal and do drugs and
then sleep wherever they want. And you can imagine if
you are a tax paying property tax paying also, by
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the way, person who wants your kids to be able
to go to a safe, safe school or you know,
walk through a safe neighborhood and go to a safe school,
and you don't want to have these concerns. You don't
want to worry about break ins because of the encampment
down the street. The people who say, oh, it doesn't
lead to crime, they are wrong, they are lying. Of
course it does. If you have congregations of drug addicts
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and the mentally ill out in the open on the street,
without services, without assistance, guess what's going to happen. Bad
things happens in every city across the country. I've mentioned this,
I think before here when I grew up, and this
is people still don't. They feel like they can't believe this.
When I grew up on the I grew up on
the Upper East Side. It's a fancy neighborhood, just be
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honest about it. Right around the corner from us, and
I mean fifty yards, they had set up a city
councilman had set up effectively a homeless shelter on the street.
On the street, and I used to walk to church
and we would go pass and I remember as a
little I was a little kid. I mean I was,
you know, five or six years old, but I remember this,
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holding my mom's hand as we would have to cross
to the other side of the street because of all
the you know, people that were doing drugs, shouting, urinating
on the street. I mean there were fifty sixty seventy
people living on this sidewalk, and the city councilman, because
it was the nice thing to do, would give them
little cookstoves and provide them with mattresses. And this was
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out of the street, and the whole neighborhood had to
come together and create a fence to prevent this. I mean,
it was a mess. Why should we have been And
of course there were crimes committed, and there was an
assault and there was like a life sexual assault and
I don't know what ended up happening with it, but
it was a mess. Okay, it was a mess, and
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we all understand that that's what's going to happen. So
now you have leftists that think it is a cruel
and unusual punishment to say nobody is allowed to just
live in a public space that is not meant for living.
I mean, wow, this is how far they want to
take this. This is this is yet again one of
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these moments where I have to say the Democrats really
are They're just the They're just constantly undermining civilization. At
every opportunity, they're just trying to find a way, how
do we make more disorder, more misery, more dysfunction, and
then try to create and really reverse engineer it so
that we're creating a legal rationale for it, or civil
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rights rationale for it, or an equity rationale for it.
I certainly hope this case comes down the way that
I think that it will, which is to say that
it is acceptable for a a town or a city
to say you're not allowed to live in the playground.
You know, you can't have adults living in the playground. Sorry,
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you know, you gotta to figure something else out. It's
interesting the Ktanji Brown, Jackson and Kagan were both making
the case that sleeping in public isn't it kind of
just like breathing, Like you have to sleep, you have
to breathe. So is this like saying you can't breathe
in public? I mean, really trying the most facetious arguments,
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because ultimately the leftist mindset is to find a way
to try to elevate degeneracy. That keep in mind, none
of them are ever okay with this when it is
on their doorstep. I mean, you find me a prominent liberal.
You find me a prominent democrat or leftist who lives
in a neighborhood where they want to start having more
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zoning for low income housing. Who lives in a neighborhood
and you know, like Martha's vinyard? Remember that? Or was
it Nantucket? I can't remember now it was Nantucket right?
Or Martha's Vineyard? I can't remember. Where did where did
Ron de Santis send the migrants? Was one of the
fancy islands anyway?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You know? But but who who live in a neighborhood
where the where there won't be a lot of illegals.
They love to pretend that they care so much about this,
but they want to always make sure that it's not
going to affect them. They don't want this on theirs,
on their street. They don't want this in their neighborhood
because they know, they know that it will result in
the degeneracy that I'm talking about and the criminality. But
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as long as it's affecting somebody else and they get
to think well of themselves, oh man, there is nothing
that they won't they won't push for nothing that they
will not do. The experiment has been run particularly in
the West Coast in a lot of cities where we've
decided let people do drugs, let them urinate and broad
daylight in front of everybody, let them you know, trash
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the streets. Uh, you know, sleep in sidewalk so you
can't actually walk. It's no longer even a pedestrian way.
And that came up in this issue. I think the
one of the judges involved in the lower level was
saying that a sidewalk isn't really a pedestrian way if
I'm read through a lot of this stuff, but I'm
pretty sure that's wrong. But this is what you're this
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is what you're up against. People who see the results,
they got their way. Now we're trying to fix the problem.
And the Democrats stand up and say, don't fit, don't
fix it. It's cruel and unusual punishment to fix it.
They think it is more kind and decent to de
facto promote people living in psychological duress addicted to drugs
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on the street, with you know, rats and vermin running
around and subject to assault and rape and everything from
you know, other drug addicts around them. They think that
is a more kind position than saying, sorry, law enforcement's
going to come. You always will have the option of
going to a shelter, always haw the option of public services,
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but you can't live here. You know, this is it's amazing.
You have these these three Supreme Court justices, all of
whom went to you know, Ivy League schools, and they
want to act like, yeah, I mean, just let like
a giant homeless encampment of drug addicted criminals pop up
anywhere and the city or the state or the town
can't do anything about it. That's going to be good
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for society. You notice they don't learn the lesson right
because it's not about what's true. It's about what makes
them feel good. It's about what makes democrats feel good
to promote, feel good, to vote for, feel good to
post on social media or tell their friends at cocktail
parties or whatever luncheons. And that's why we have such
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a hard time fixing these cities, so many great American
cities brought low by just intransigent, dumb policy. And we'll
see what the Supreme Court does on this one, but
I think it's the beginning of the turnaround that can happen,
at least in some places that are willing to see reality.
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in team to Play and Buck. I just got an
update from Clay on the golf course by the way.
He's doing well. He's doing well. I don't know enough
about golf you really know what that means. But I
just know that it's going in the right direction. So
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that's a good place to be. Maybe I should learn
golf at some point so I can go on these
fun golf outings. I don't know. It has I feel
like I don't have enough time to do the things
that I'm already trying to do all the time, So
to fit in golf, I'd have to find a way,
find a way. It would be nice to be outside
and go walking. I saw something in the Wall Street
Journal that said a round of eighteen holes of golf,
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you burn from just the walking about six to seven
hundred calories, which is pretty good, although it's over what
four or five hours, And it doesn't really matter if
this was acoring to the journal. Doesn't really matter if
you carry your bag or not. So there's that, you
know what I mean? You can do the thing on
the wheel. I don't know. Do you guys play golf.
I don't. I don't. I think there's like wheeled carts. Now,
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all right, let's get some of our VIP emails. We
have VIPs. If you go to Clayandbuck dot com, sign up,
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email address. Oh, we're going to talk fauci here in
a moment, which will be fun. The fouch the foucht.
He's out there making the rounds that'll be coming up
(16:26):
in a moment. But Matt writes, Buck, I think you're
the one watching MSNBC with a horrified fascination at the
alternate universe they live in. I got a similar one.
Every day since Trump was convicted. In New York, Newsweek
has rolled out a story trumpeting, on the basis of
a cherry picked poll, how it looks like it's shifting
in Biden's favor. Yeah, Matt, You're going to see a
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lot of this. You're going to see a lot of
this because for people who want to believe something, the
ultimate clickbait is the headline that tells them what they
want to believe. So if you want to get Biden
voters to click on your link or to buy your
article or whatever, you've got to give them some hope
of it's getting better. That's why Mourning Joe has become.
As I've said, and I've been doing the watching of
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Morning Joe, sometimes not every day, but sometimes recently. That's
the place you go as a as a Democrat who
wants to hear what you want to hear, including it's
all gonna be fine with Joe Biden. Nothing to see here,
Joe Biden fit as a fiddle, It's all good. I mean,
that's crazy, but you will hear that on Morning Joe.
(17:30):
And so that's where you should go if you want
to be reassured of that delusion. But yeah, no, there's
plenty of that going on over there. Speaking of delusion, Fauci,
He's like, Buck, You're never gonna leave me alone. I'm
just trying to sell books so I can be worth
twenty or thirty or forty million. He's already worth a lot.
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(18:57):
Welcome back in. Everybody teams infor me that the actor
Donald Sutherland just passed away. Great actor, great body of work,
rest and feet and the prayers for his family. But yeah,
I just saw I feel like hm, when when when
Trump who was the Trump got approached about the passing
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of and he's like, uh, you know, I didn't know.
I didn't you know. You guys remember that. And it
became a very famous moment where so someone passed away
and Trump was approached by a journalist to ask about it,
and he had he had heard about it just from
the journalist. I can't remember who that was anyway, and
he's in the background, tiny dancer is playing. It's a
famous it's a famous clip. You still see it all
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the time. That's one thing about being in the political
arena in the era of Trump. There are more more
memorable moments and uh and clips and slogans and memes.
The the world of politics will never be what it
is right now with Donald Trump at the center of it,
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that is for sure. But anyway, I was talking about
Fauci stuff before, and thank you for this VIP email
by the way, from Jarrett. He writes in Buck, I
love your impression of Fauci. It's excellent. Well, Jared, I
think it's almost more of a database transmogrification of the
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elucidated commentariat of many years of you get it. Fauci
is trying to tell everybody that he's a great guy.
And I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.
I try. I try to be as dispassionate in my
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analysis of individuals as I can, or maybe I try
to not bring my own sense of inner rage at
any individual too much, unless we're talking about like a
terrorist or something, right, But I try not to make
it personal. But with Fauci, I feel like he made
it personal with all of us. I feel like what
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he did was something that made all of our lives
noticeably worse for a period of years. I think that
what he did to children and the learning loss. Oh sorry,
it was Trump here with tiny answer. It was Ruth
bader Ginsburg's passing that I had completely forgotten that that's who,
because it's a meme that you'll still see all the
time online just of the Trump. Wow, I didn't know
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you're telling me for the first time. It was Ruth
bader Ginsburg's passing. Okay, and tiny dansers playing in the background.
It was really quite a moment they caught on TV.
So Fauci is making the rounds. I've said that the
loss of learning for children, the locking down of schools,
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the I also really do want someone to just try
to ask him I know what he'll do. He'll say,
he just avoids questions that he knows will We'll pin
him down for the horrible fraud that he is. You know, say,
you know, why are we looking backwards? You know, I
was relying on the data he just won't address. This
is how this guy rose to the heights that he
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did within the highly inefficient, ineffectual, slothful bureaucracy of the NAIAD,
which is a subunit of the NIH, the National Institutes
of Health. So he created an ultimate bureaucrat form, a
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little unaccountable fiefdom within the broader, flabby, unaccountable bureaucracy of
the NIH. And he's going around, he's telling everybody that
it's not just that he refuses to admit mistakes. He
is still holding himself out as a hero. This has
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cut twenty seven Play it.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, isn't the only Republican.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
That's actually calling for your criminal prosecution or imprisonment?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Seriously? Do you take those threats?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
You know, obviously you always take threats that people make seriously.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
But I quite frankly don't know what they're talking about.
What are the charges that.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You've saved millions of lives with the vaccine that you
helped develop, or that you've got people to do things
that were interventions that made them more safe against a
deadly pandemic that killed one point two million people. So
if trying to save people's lives is a crime, then
I'm guilty.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
If loving you is wrong, Fauci, I don't want to
be right. If saving people is a crime, that I'm guilty.
I mean, oh man, this is what this is what
we have with this guy. He is so shameless. First,
all the interventions didn't. The thing that I'm still I
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refuse to forget about when he's like all the interventions
that saved millions of lives, they didn't, and they caused
tremendous loss of time and productivity. Fauci stole billions of
productive life hours from people. Your time is value, Your
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time is worth. The time we spent locked away, the
time we spent not with loved ones, the cancelation of
your wedding or the zoom wedding you had to have,
or the inability to hug your your you know, grandma
on her last hours, or the loss of college and
high school graduations, and the destruction of businesses and the
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I mean you for nothing, for nothing. None of it
was right, none of it made sense, all of it
was wrong. All of it was just downside, just destruction.
And he's like, oh, if being guilty of saving lives,
I'm sorry, doctor Fauci is definitely a convicted felon if
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and felony is being amazing. Really, that's what we've got here.
This is what he's out there saying. Oh and in
case that's not enough, now you're also supposed to be
feel sorry for him because you're not allowed to criticize
Fauci Democrats. This is a classic Democrat thing. If you
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disagree or are angry about someone's policy and they can't
fight back on the policy level, it's oh, well, there
are crazy people who are threatening me out there. So
are you threatening me by saying you disagree with me?
Because that's what it sounds like. Notice that's the way.
That's the way they try to silence, that's the way
they try to get you to shut up and just
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deal with it. Here is Fauci doing just that. This
is cut twenty five plate.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I still think deep down that does the possibility that
somebody's gonna kill me so that's a possibility I wish
I didn't have to think about, but it's true. I've
become the target of people with extremist views.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
One of the several.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Fortunate aspects of the outbreak was that it occurred at
a time of profound divisiveness in our society, and there
was an inordinate amount of non productive gotcha, this side
is out against this side. So you have criticisms that
are not productive. You have people who are getting vaccinated
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or not based on political ideology, they're wearing a mask
or not based on political ideology.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
He was really the father of all of that, the
politicization of this because Democrats were hysterical lunatics about COVID,
because they are emotionally unstable and generally unhappy. That's broad,
but generally true about the Democrat mindset. There are exceptions,
and he allowed for them to set the tone and
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the pace of do everything, does it work? We don't know,
just do it, and if you won't do it, you're
a bad person. That was the part of it. He
could have avoided this partisanship, in this hyper politicization by saying, look,
if you want to do these interventions, I'm giving you
ideas here, but none of this should be mandated. The
tyranny was the problem. None of this should have been
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do this or you're gonna get arrested. That's the way
it was with restaurant. You know, you try to walk
into a restaurant without a mask on. They said, sorry,
we have a mandate here from the city or whatever about,
and you wouldn't put it on. I'll restue, take you
off a flight, ban you from an airline. Fauci could
have at any time stepped in and said, guys, that's
not that's not how about that's not productive, how about
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that gotcha isn't worthwhile? He is a vile fraud, and
he continues to this day. And the people who cheer
firm and clap firm are imbeciles. Honestly, they're just living
in some fantasy world. They don't want to believe, or
incapable of understanding what was done to them. And anyone
who thinks, why are you still talking about it? They
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will do this again? Oh no, they won't. Buck Really,
we had a virus with a true fatality rate. I
mean I don't it's less than point one percent. It's
probably if you really, if you actually took the time
to separate died with COVID from died from COVID directly.
A mortality rate is probably like point zero zero one
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or something. I mean, it's it's about like a bad
flu basically, which you weren't allowed to say then, but
you are allowed to say now. What a surprise. Imagine
if we had something, if we had a virus that
had a two percent fatality rate. I know that doesn't
sound that bad. Do you actually think about what those
numbers would be, I mean, a true two percent fatality rate.
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You're gonna tell me. They wouldn't be telling you to
double mask. And we learned last time. This time it's
all about the N ninety five mask with goggles. And
also when you're in the shower with your two masks
and your goggles and your gloves, make sure you hold
your breath when you spray the water on your eyes
in your mouth and so you don't have any droplets.
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I mean, they would do the same crazy garbage again.
That's why I won't let it go. And also this
became the purest experiment that we could run of just
how authoritarian the democrat socialist mindset in America really is.
And the main stream overall Democrat party. They are willing
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to force you to get injections that do not work,
that you do not need, fire you from your job,
and treat you like a monster, and socially ostracize you
because they say so. They did it. They did it.
So you can never think about politics in America the
same way after this. And yes, Fauci is very symbolic
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of that, but it even goes beyond Fauci. That's why
I'm not letting it go. I'm never letting it go.
I'll be here Fauci calling out your lies and you
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Cheap up with Clay and Bucks campaign coverage with twenty
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Coming up in the third hour of the Clay and
Buck Show, we'll talk about the wide open order and
concerns raised in The New York Post today, some reporting
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about some of the individuals that are crossing and claiming
asylum have ties to or are on the terror watch list.
Some of them have ties to a country that is
known as a hotbed of recruiting for gie hottist terrorism,
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and we're letting them into the country on an asylum claim,
which means is effectively no paperwork provided, no documentation, nothing.
How much easier do we plan on making it for
people to illegally enter the United States? That's the question
that I think you have to ask about Biden. And
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that's why they're having these moments right now where they're
setting up policies trying to both seem like they're doing
something about the border, but on the other hand of
things making it easier for people to come and stay
in the country. It's all about the incentive structure, and
it has been all along. Some people have been asking
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me about this. There's a Fox newspoll. So if we're
going to talk polls, I'm not going to pick and choose.
There's a Fox newspole this has cut six that has
Biden leading Trump. And here's the claim that this is
the best result Biden has had so far this year.
Play it.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
We are releasing new Fox polls right now about the
presidential race. President Biden gets his best result this election
cycle in the head to head against former president Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
He leads fifty to forty eight.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
That is within the margin of ra President Biden hasn't
been ahead of former President Trump in the poll since
October twenty twenty three. He trailed Trump by one point
last month, again all within march of era, a very
tight race. When listing extremely important issues to their vote.
Registered voters in this survey citing the future of democracy
at sixty eight percent, the economy at sixty six, followed
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by stability and normalcy, then healthcare and immigration, abortion and guns.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
So what do we think about this? Nothing to worry
about here. A national poll that's within the margin of
era doesn't really tell us anything because we've known all along,
just based on voting patterns, registration numbers nationwide, it's going
to be a very small percentage that determines the election,
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within two percent, probably within one percent of the overall electorate.
So a poll with a margin of error of two
or three points, whatever it may be, and Biden and
Trump neck and neck, they'll be neck and neck the
whole time. This is to me going more into the
imprecision of some of these polls than it is actually
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any kind of an indicator of a change in support.
Although I think you can say, and this is something
I've thought about along as this moves further along, RFK
Junior not going to make it on the I think
he's passed the deadline hours close to the deadline. He's
not making on the debate stage. He was never going
to make it on the debate stage based on the
rules that they had. So what you may see now
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are some of those Democrats who have been pulling as
RFK voters because they don't like Joe Biden as a candidate.
Joe Biden's numbers are very very low. They may start
coming back to the Democrat tent. They may decide that,
you know, they want to vote for a team that
has a shot of winning, and that could begin to
boost a little bit of Biden's numbers. I think right
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now RFK Junior is only on the ballot in ten states,
I think, give or take, and it's changing all the time,
but he's not going to be able to get I
think it's very unlikely he'll be able to get on
the ballot in all fifty states. It really just depends
where he does manage to get on and if it
comes down to a few states, I know, keep cutting
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this onion, slicing it very thinly, but if you get
down to just a few states, even a tiny percentage
of the vote going for RFK relative to the overall
electorate could be the difference in the election. You know,
go back and look at the Jill Stein numbers in
twenty sixteen, really eye opening. Jill Stein. Even remember Jill Stein.
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I barely remember Jill Stein. But a few key places,
you know, ten thousand votes here, fifteen thousand votes there,
whatever it may. So, I don't think this Fox News
poll is anything for the Trump team to be concerned about.
It's exactly what I would expect those swing state poles
and then even some blue stronghold poles. We mentioned New York,
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we mentioned Minnesota, getting some of that when we come
back here, all indicative of how Trump is doing. And
remember they're trying to tell you that he's a convicted
fellon thirty four felonies, and this is the best Biden
can do against that. This is what you know they're
trying to brag, Well, we have an incumbent president, and
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it's a neck and neck race with a convicted fellon
thirty four relodies. Right, there's no easy way for them
to message this message this without effectively undermining their own guy,
because wow, Biden must be a clown if he's running
neck and neck with Trump at this stage.