June 20, 2024 • 36 mins
NY Times hit piece targets Judge Cannon for being biased towards Donald Trump instead of trying to destroy him. Donald Sutherland, iconic actor, passes away. The left ignores the border, even as jihadists walk across intent on doing us harm. Climate change isn’t called “global warming,” even as libs complain about the heat, because they like to blame cold days on you, too. Callers: Will Trump, as a felon, be able to vote in Florida?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now this
is Buck in solo today, Clay playing golf. He'll be
back with you all tomorrow. I'll be out stay hied
a family and do some fun stuff up north, so
Clay will have the calm. As they say in the Navy.
I think it's the Navy to say that, right, And
I'm going to get so many text messages. How could
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you not know? I'm just saying making sure we're talking
about the polls and Trump and all that before. I
think this is very interesting. People keep asking me, what's
the strategy, what are they going to do? What are
the Democrats holding up their sleeve, so to speak? And
the legal strategy is still that is still at the forefront. Right.
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They have a sentencing of Donald Trump in just a
couple of weeks. It feels crazy to say that out loud,
but yes, there will be a sentencing before a judge
in New York the early part of July. I think
it's is it the eighth guys? Is that right? So
that's coming up. You have three other cases that are
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making their way through. I could be incorrecting this, but
I wouldn't bet against me that they will try to.
As soon as the Supreme Court decision comes down on
presidential immunity from prosecution, they will try to resurrect that
case as fast as they can in DC and try
to make that at least a major story in the summer,
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if not a criminal trial that is going forward. Remember,
they've already broken all ed eOne who sends me up?
But buck doesn't. The DOJ have a restriction on cases
that interfere with an election, all the stuff that's gentlemen rules,
you know what I mean, that's all out the window. Okay.
So unless there is a hard and fast violation of
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statute that the Supreme Court can step in and say,
hold on a second, guys, you can't do this to
Trump just because he's Trump. Don't expect there to be
any good faith in this process when it comes to
the prosecution of Trump. Don't expect them to any guidelines
procedures meant to take into account. No, no, no, no no. If
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they can do it to Trump and it hurts them,
they'll do it. So that's why I think they'll try
to accelerate the J six case as much as they
possibly can. As I've said, the Supreme Court could step
in again and then it's all over for them. But
I'm noticing that there there's a multi pronged judicial undermining
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strategy going on from the flagship left wing publications. We've
been talking about what they've done with Justice Alito's wife,
some you know, left wing activist journal taping her pretending
to be a friendly and taping her saying nothing objectionable
by the way, like there's no problem of what she said,
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but remember she was flying a appeal to Heaven flag
at the Alito home. And New York Times you spread
on this. They've been going after Justice Thomas for so
many reasons and for such a long time. I mean,
they've been lying about Justice Clarence Thomas and smearing Justice
Clarence Thomas for almost my entire life, feels like, you know,
I mean for a long time now. So that's nothing new,
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but they've accelerated it recently with his Oh he traveled
with friends. Justice Thomas went on vacations with friends. It's
not illegal, it's not an ethical but they want him
to document it more or something, Okay, So they've done that.
That is all because they're hoping to pressure Roberts, who
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is just a whimp. Oh, he's an institutionalist. I'm just
here to protect the institution of the Supreme Court. How
about protect the country and the constitution. How about worry
less about the perception of your legal peers broadly speaking,
and what the Washington Post, a bunch of lunatic communists
write about you on their editorial pages. How about Justice
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Roberts care less about that? Okay, that's one component of this,
But it's because they're trying to prepare their readership, their
political base on the left for a decision about Trump
immunity that they will not like. There's another thing that
I've seen now, the latest in this anti judicial or
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judiciary salvo just dropping today a couple of New York
Times reporters, and the whole thing is meant to say
that Judge Eileen Cannon, who is overseeing the mar A
Lago documents case, Judge Eileen Cannon is underqualified for this
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and partisan, both of those things they suggest in this piece.
I just read through it. It just it just came
out in the last hour and popped up on my screen.
So I read through this when we were in the
commercial break. There. You wonder what I do in the
commercial breaks, I drink my Crocket coffee and I keep
reading so I can bring you the latest. So we
have Judge Eileen Cannon. They're saying that there were other
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jurists to federal judges in South Florida privately urged Eileen
Cannon to decline the case when it was assigned to
her last year. According to two people briefed on the matter,
she chose to keep it. So what this is telling
you is somebody in the federal court system down here
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in Florida decided, for entirely partisan reasons to leak to
The New York Times private discussions among judges that cannot
be fact checked. That cannot be of course, the judges
have declined comment on this, so we don't know. But
the whole thrust of this article is Judge Eileen Cannon
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is not seasoned enough to take on this case and
has shown a partisan favoritism toward Donald Trump. Why nothing
really other than she's not trying to destroy Donald Trump.
You see, the expectation they have is for you to
be a real judge or a real prosecutor, you have
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to hate Trump, you have to want to destroy Trump.
If you don't fit into that category, you cannot be trusted,
you're unqualified, you're a partisan. They see this very much
as a binary is the black and white issue for them,
and that's why they never bring up Judge Chutkin, who
is ferociously hostile toward Donald Trump to January sixth defendants.
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I mean, it could not be more clear where she
stands on all Trump related issues. But that's okay because
that's how she is supposed to be a wording to
the Democrat apparatus. But Judge Eileen Cannon is giving Trump
due process rights, is allowing him to challenge issues on
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the class you know, that have to do with the
classification of the material, and because of that, she isn't
going along with their hyper accelerated timeline, and that means
that she's a partisan. Isn't this a fascinating way to
look at things? Democrats believe that what's fair in this
election year for judges and prosecutors involved is to give
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Trump unfair treatment because of the threat that he represents
to democracy to speed through everything give his Remember, part
of the timing of this isn't just that it's in
the election year. It's the burden that it puts on
Trump's legal team. If you have a month or three
months to look over to you know, write memoranda, to
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do all these things, that's different than you got five
days to come back to the court with your explanation
of this right. That's a different situation. And so a
an overly speedy trial is clearly a violation of the
defendant's rights because it's being done not at the request
of the defendant. It's being done for a partisan political
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purpose ram through these trials to destroy Trump. That's what's
going on. And Judge Cannon is not playing that game.
And so here we have a member of the federal
federal Judiciary lifetime appointment and we're told that she is
unqualified to oversee this and that she is too favorable
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to Trump. You know why they're doing this because they're
such cry babies, They are such sore losers. They know
that it's very You notice I've never I haven't said
that the Judge Canon case is gonna Marlagua documents issue
is going to get done before the election. That's not
gonna no way. And a big part of it is
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that I know how these classified information trials go, and
there's a lot of back and forth, and the government
has to explain, and the judge then has to remember,
in these cases, the government is going to say that
Trump had stuff that's really sensitive to national security, and
you have to trust them, and they don't want the
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jury to see it, and they certainly don't want it
an open court. Well, that creates quite a problem for
the defendant, doesn't it. Because if the defendant can say
this stuff is a common knowledge or ID classified, this
stuff you can see for yourself, there's no reasona believe
this is sensitive. You can't make that case because it's
a trust us where the government situation, and as you know,
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don't trust the government. It's a bad idea. It's like
I saw this I mentioned yesterday. I don't want to
divert too much here, but Chris Rufo is exposing this
gender transition program for kids out of Texas hog but
I think it's now being investigated by Texas state authorities.
But there's video released of FBI guys showing up, you know,
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dressed in like, you know, casual wear, showing up like hey,
can we just talk to you. We're from the FBI.
Here's and I could see I was happy. In the comments,
every one of the comments is just all caps. Shut up,
don't talk to them, say lawyer, don't say anything. Close
the door, do not talk to them. Do not trust
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that they are not there to help you. The FBI
is not showing up to knock on your door because
the regime is hoping to get both sides of the
story when it comes to child gender mutilation, which is
going on ideologically pushed by the Democrats, right, The FBI
is not there as your friend. Do not talk to them.
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I was I was happy to see in the comments
on everybody everybody. I mean, I wish the people involved,
you know, weren't talking to They started talking them a
little bit, not too much. What you say is nothing.
So do you have a warrant? No contact? My attorney
have an I stay. That's it. Nothing else not. Oh
do you see the baseball game with the so and so?
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And you know, no, nothing done. Let's get more into
some of the legal aspects here of the mar LAGU
documents case. So I thought this, I thought this was
really interesting. There was a piece in the Wall Street
Journal by a guy who clearly he's a professor at
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Stanford Law School. Okay, he clearly does not really like Trump,
and he writes, as a professor at Stanford Law School,
an explanation of why it is entirely rational and in
fact a clear defense of our rule of law and
of our justice system to vote for Trump as a
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protest against the lawfare they are engaged in against him,
including the Marlgo documents case. I want to walk you through.
I think this is a really important argument that is
being made here, and I think that this could be
one that turns the election so in favor of Trump.
So I want to come back to this and we'll
talk more about this piece. I think it's really interesting.
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Speaker 1 (13:50):
I think we all know that, at least in America
this time of year, it gets hot in a lot
of places. That's not a surprise to you, It's not
a surprise to me. It's summer, late June already can't
believe how the time is flying by. It's like eighty
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six degrees now I'm really doing radio eighty six degrees
in breezy in Miami Beach, it's like eighty six in Miami,
it's ninety in New York. I only bring this up
because Governor Hokeel, among others, are acting like this is
a time to freak out the governor of New York state,
state that I will always love despite all of its insanity,
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poor governor and challenges. Governor Hokel is saying that these
are levels ninety degree fahrenheit. I mean, I guess for
a Canadian and British listeners nineties what Canada does fahrenheit too? Right?
We're the only ones that, I mean are the Brits
do celsius. I can't even keep all this stuff straight, right.
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The Canadians use fairnheit. Canada is like America Junior. We
all know it. So so here we have a Governor
Hokel who is saying that these temperatures are never seen
before in our lifetime. YadA, YadA, play five.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
This is not a natural hot weather stretch for us
here in the state of New York, especially upstate. But
we are going to be seeing temperatures at levels we
have not seen in our lifetimes. And I want to
update New Yorkers on what we're doing about this significant
public health event. Right now, everywhere north of New York
City is under a heat advisory and it's only going
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to get worse. Starting today in the Genesee Valley, in
the Finger Lakes, and starting tomorrow, extreme heat will hit
everywhere in the Great State of New York. Now what
does this mean. It's a dangerous mix of high temperatures
and extreme humidity causing feels like temperature of over one
hundred degrees. Now, that's hot.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I mean one hundred degrees in Texas. Isn't that like
all summer for you guys? One hundred degrees? I know
it's hot, but you know, can we stop freaking out
about this? And and of course, uh, you have to
understand that this is all about climate change, right, you
have to know that there is a Here we go,
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the WSKG say how climate change can make is making
New York City summer hotter. Warming made recent heat wave
in US and Mexico more likely. New York Times, it's
it's everywhere. It is summertime, it is hot, and we
are getting lectures about climate change. I don't know how
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much crazier they're going. They need to get here, we go.
This is the New York Times. Millions of Americans are
in store for a major heat wave this week as
temperatures climb in the Northeast and New York City temperatures
will be in the high nineties. Climate change means temperatures
are climbing earlier in the year. Oh okay, so if
it gets hot early in the summer, that's climate change now.
But you know what's a I bet if it got
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hot in the middle of the summer, it would also
be climate change. And believe it or not, if the
peak temperatures that were achieved in the northeastern United States
occurred in the late summer, does anyone to guess it
would also be climate change?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
This is the great unfalsifiable This is like, this is
the this is the astrology of the meteorology world. The
climate change. You can't you can't prove it's not true.
It's insane. I don't know. I always thought we knew.
You know, the winter, it gets cold, in the summer, it
gets hot. This is kind of the way things are,
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Slay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay, I don't get everything right, and I'm the first
two admit that. But it turns out Canada, does you Celsius?
Who knew I thought we were? Did they? They're on
the metric system up there? Really is that? Is that?
What's going on Canada? I swear I thought we're making progress.
Maybe we're worried about the wrong border of Canada. Maybe
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just saying uh yeah, so they're on Celsius. Also, I
mentioned the passing of Donald Sutherland. Interesting. I did a
quick ask of of the team in New York what
the best Donald Sutherland film of all time is? And
you get a whole range of whole range of answers.
God had quite an extensive body of work. He was
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in mash Ordinary People, Invasion of the Body Snatchers. More recently,
The Hunger games, which I can say I have not.
I have not read the Hunger Games books or seen
the Hunger Games movies. I have not read the Harry
Potter books. I have seen one Harry Potter movie. Uh.
And and for somebody who my wife is realizing I
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need to find more places to keep my books. I
just the area is that my man cave is basically
just a library that's poorly organized with you know, old
keepsakes from the CIA era, you know, knives from random
countries and stuff like that, and then lots are just
books all over the place. And she asked me, she said,
how many of these have you read? I was like,
I mean, I don't know. Half of them I've read,
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but half of them I'm going to read. That's the
whole point. You know, half of them I'm getting to.
That's why I'm stacking them up and gonna wow. Producer
Ali read all three Hunger Games books. I am. I
don't know what. I guess they I guess they are good. Yeah,
I need I need to get an actual library. I'm
a book stack guy. If you've seen the original Ghostbusters
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film where they're in the New York Public Library in
the very beginning which is I believe now the Stephen
Schwartzman Library. It's called right on forty second Street, Brian Park.
It's a great scene. But you know they have the
books that are stacked to this. That's kind of how
my I just have book stacks in places. I just
stack them up not that high, but you know that
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would be dangerous because Ginger. I don't want her to
get hit with a book stack. But they're kind of low.
Where oh, on the border. I'm talking about the border
a little bit. That will take some of your calls
from your VIP emails. I just I see this and
I say to myself, this isn't going to end well.
And I wish that we could get more focus on
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this and have a a united front about this problem.
So this was the New York Post reporting this morning
that there are, yeah, a lot of migrants illegals coming
into the country. It's difficult, right because technically, if they're
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in the asylum process during that process, I don't think
they are technically illegal, although they have entered the country illegally,
so you know, the terminology gets a little bit a
little murky, and they want you to say migrant just
because that makes it sound like, oh, they're just part
of a migration. This is a great thing. But you
have these illegals entering and you have one hundred and
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sixty now might be more like one hundred and eighty
countries represented at the border. So we are often led
to believe that that the illegal migration is just from
Central America. Used to be Mexico. Now it's Central and
South America, and that's a big piece of it. But
name a country that is not a very rich country.
I mean, we don't have a lot of people showing
up crossing into the United States crossing the Rio Grande
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from Liechtenstein, you know, but we do have people which
I think is the richest country per cap in the world.
Is it Monaco or Lichtenstein, It's one of them, right,
But I know that we have people from every other
particularly developing third world country showing up, and one of
them is a little place called Tajikistan. And this is
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what the New York Post is running about. We've had
fifteen hundred migrants from Tajikistan have crossed between twenty twenty
and twenty twenty four. So this is leaked border data
that the New York Post has obtained and there have
been five hundred Tajiks which is what we call people
from Tajikistan caught this year. Now you may say, well,
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why we focused it on this, Well, Tajikistan has become
one of the most prominent recruiting grounds for ISIS k
which is isis the Islamic State Korisan province, and Korisan
is an old Koranic designation for what is a big
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chunk of the Middle East and South Asia. It would
be Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Stans basically would be Khorisan, and
then there would be I think it even stretches up
a little bit into the Near East. But it is
also well known in Jihada circles because there's a hadith
about the black banners marching, you know, military marching from
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Khorusan to Jerusalem and then the Mathi comes in the
end of the world. So yeah, it's important to the jihadists,
and there has been a lot of jihadist recruitment so
Muslim extremists, Muslim terrorists from Tajikistan, including the Moscow Concert
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at a Hall attack back in March which killed one
hundred and forty five people. Those were tadjik isis K
fighters or terrorists. So this is why I'm bringing this up,
the chance of somebody who is of the isis K
mindset figuring out at some point, Hey, we don't have
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to get a visa, we don't have to have a
clean passport, we don't have to get really creative to
enter the United States. We can just get it to
another country that doesn't really care that we're visiting because
they're not worried about terrorism, or they don't spend time
thinking about this, whether it's Mexico or any countries that
are in walking, driving bus or train distance to Mexico.
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Get to one of them and then get up through
Mexico and then you claim asylum. What is it going
to say about our border and our immigration policy if
we suffer a mass casualty attack and from someone who
was claiming asylum by crossing the US Mexico border, and
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we saw this all happening and we did nothing about it.
I don't know how the government expects that it's going
to be able to explain this to the American people
in that moment of sadness and rage, but I think
we're probably heading toward that. If you remember the I
think the Sarnae of brothers, the Boston marathon bombers. I
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believe their parents were asylum seekers. I think that's right.
I'd have to go back and check. But they flew
into the country, they didn't cross at the border. At
this point, we have hundreds and hundreds just from Tajikist. Then, look,
I know most people from Tajikistan, they you know, they
just want to be here. It's a better country. They
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want to work menial jobs. You know, ninety nine out
of one hundred of them. I'm sure higher than that.
But they're they're me no harm. They're breaking the law,
or they're lying by scamming the immigration system. But they
don't mean anyone any any actual you know, physical harm
or violence. But it only takes four or five, maybe
one or two to get into the country and conduct
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a mass casualty plot. And we're just so wide open
to it right now. And what is the point of
all these It's basically you know, when I was with
Kerry recently, we came back, we were in the Caribbean.
We had a nice time, came back on vacation. You know,
you got to get your passport scan and go through
all this stuff, and if you're going to a country
that requires a visa, and we have all these protocols
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we go through, including as an American when you come
back into this country, what you can bring in your
bag and all this stuff. We got ten million people
that have just showed up and done whatever they want
for the last four years. You know what I mean.
You start to think about this, You're like, what you know,
they're they're going through my bag to make sure that
you know, I didn't bring like farm equipment or something,
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or you know, fruit or whatever. It is soil from
some point like I'm just oh, here I am, I
got bags of soil. They're probably looking for drugs, but
they're looking for soil too, And people are just coming
across the border, and there's gotaways coming across the border.
The whole thing is wide open. You sit here, you say,
why go through? Like why go through the motions? Why
pretend like they care what's really happening at the border.
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It feels like it's all for show. And so many
of these these different and I used to work for them,
so I know these you know, different counter terrorism units
now and you know, embedded with the police and the FBI,
everything else. They can't even begin to keep track of
all the GHI threats that are able to come in
and out of this country right now. It is it's
easy to get in out of the country right now,
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and particularly get into the country. So I guess this
is it's a little bit like talking about the debt
at this point. We're just gonna sit here and discuss
it and raise the alarm and hope that maybe somebody
in power will make some decisions to change this or
it's gonna blow up, and then everyone's gonna say, what happened?
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How do we allow this to happen? Well, by allowing
it to happen, which is what's going on day in
and day out with the Biden administration, it is a
huge vulnerability that we have a national security vulnerability, and
you add to it the ability to infiltrate this country
with spies for espionage purposes too. You know, we think, oh,
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they're gonna come through the front door, so to speak.
They're gonna fly in, and they're gonna have, you know,
a fake passport, and you know, whether it's a you know,
Chinese or Iranians or nor Koreans on a fake passport
or whatever. I mean it come across the border easy. Anybody.
There's no way of really knowing. And I'm talking to
the people that even stop and check in. There are
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a lot of people to just make their way across.
I've seen it happen. I've been at the border where
they have you know, a big mob of one hundred people,
and the cartel says, all right, you all go now,
and all the border patrol resources because we have the
humanitarian mission and we are a kind people and we
don't want you know, a baby dying of dehydration, and
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we don't want people that are deathly ill not to
get so border patrol just you know, like converges all
at once there. And I'm not blaming border patrol. This
is just what ends up happening. And then the cartel,
you know, a mile down the Rio Grande boom boom boom,
speedboats right across waiting for somebody on the side, usually
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in a pickup truck or even a semi or something gone,
no resources to track them down. I have no idea.
This is day in and day out reality in America.
But you know, Biden was a worry about their democracy
and Trump and yeah, I know, I'm telling you how
it is. I wish it were different, but got to
tell you the truth here. You know, there's a movement
(30:16):
going on to change how we elect our president in
the future. It's happening in eighteen states so far, being
led by left wing activists who don't think their side
should have to lose the presidency again. Their plan do
away with the electoral college as devised by the framers
of our Constitution and motivated our friends at Hillsdale College
to conduct a national survey on presidential selection. They want
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I've got some family family travel ahead, Gonna go see
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in San Antonio. What's up, Debbie?
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Hi, Hello from the Alamo City. Hello, and yes, I
listened across the spectrum as far as Britt talk shows.
You know Glenn and by the way to the side,
it was always a treat for me with Glenn would
announce that you were gonna be on. I loved you
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way back in your Glenn that day.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I listen you.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
John, I even listen to your crow Dome friend, Jesse Collie.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Hmmm, he's a great one.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, do be said best.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
However, not a single person, including your your legal cohort,
has mentioned the fact that Donald Trump is now a
convicted sella mm hmm. If there is one picture of
him at a poll.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
On election day that is called low right there for
them to throw.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Out everything, Well, hold on. My understanding of this is
that different states have different rules on but what happens
to you if you're convicted of a felony? Right, So,
I think the only places where you can be convicted
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and even while incarcerated you can vote, or Maine in Vermont,
and then there are a whole bunch of states where
once you get out of prison you can vote. There
are a whole bunch of states where once you get
out of prison and are discharged, you can vote, and
it kind of goes on like that. You know, it's
you know, there's maybe a half a dozen states or
(34:02):
a dozen states like and then the most extreme, as
I understand it, are you have to have individual voting
rights restored through petition in Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, and Virginia.
So it depends on the state. But I will say
in Florida, yeah, I don't think he could vote in
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Florida unless I'm missing.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Something, so basically he will not be able to vote
for himself.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
That may be true. I think I got a team
check my sense on this. In my sense is that
it depends on the state. But some states felons can
vote under there's a whole range of circumstances that determine
whether you can vote or not as a committed fellon.
But thank you, Debbie, a very good question, and we'll
dive a little deeper into it. I think my answer
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is correct, certainly more correct in my sense of Canada's
use of measurements and weights Canada, I can't believe it
using Celsius ridiculous. Nate in Jackson, Mississippi, what's up, Nate.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Yeah, Hey, how you doing today, Buck?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'm good. Let's go on with you.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Hey, well, I won't tell you. You know, you and
h are absolutely doing rush justice shallow, great host, glad,
thank you so much. Yeah. Hey, the last lady would
be wrong. If Trump is actually living in Florida, Governor
DeSantis will pardon him in the state, will allow him
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to be in the state, I think, But that's not why.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, I think he could petition Governor DeSantis again. I have,
fortunately I have no experience with fellow voting rights.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
This year, I will have control of the voting and
if the governor pardons the individual as a resident, he'll
be able to vote in the state.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah. I mean, if he petitions the Florida government and
they restore his voting right, then he can vote in
the state. So I think that may be able to happen. Again,
this is a very specific part of the law. It's
a great question from our fall er. No, I haven't
heard anyone else bring it up. But you know what,
call Clay tomorrow as well and throw this one at
him and see what he says. We'll see where he
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comes down on this one. Hold on a second, Trump
will still likely be able to cast a vote for
himself in November because of Florida and New York's voting
rights restoration laws pending on the New York is one
of twenty three states where people convicted can vote even
if they're on parola probation. So he can vote in
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New York. But okay, whatever I mean. It's dependent on
the state, folks. I got to look into the state
by state. But hand it off to Clay tomorrow. See
you guys Tuesday.
Okay, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now this
is Buck in solo today, Clay playing golf. He'll be
back with you all tomorrow. I'll be out stay hied
a family and do some fun stuff up north, so
Clay will have the calm. As they say in the Navy.
I think it's the Navy to say that, right, And
I'm going to get so many text messages. How could
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you not know? I'm just saying making sure we're talking
about the polls and Trump and all that before. I
think this is very interesting. People keep asking me, what's
the strategy, what are they going to do? What are
the Democrats holding up their sleeve, so to speak? And
the legal strategy is still that is still at the forefront. Right.
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They have a sentencing of Donald Trump in just a
couple of weeks. It feels crazy to say that out loud,
but yes, there will be a sentencing before a judge
in New York the early part of July. I think
it's is it the eighth guys? Is that right? So
that's coming up. You have three other cases that are
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making their way through. I could be incorrecting this, but
I wouldn't bet against me that they will try to.
As soon as the Supreme Court decision comes down on
presidential immunity from prosecution, they will try to resurrect that
case as fast as they can in DC and try
to make that at least a major story in the summer,
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if not a criminal trial that is going forward. Remember,
they've already broken all ed eOne who sends me up?
But buck doesn't. The DOJ have a restriction on cases
that interfere with an election, all the stuff that's gentlemen rules,
you know what I mean, that's all out the window. Okay.
So unless there is a hard and fast violation of
(01:55):
statute that the Supreme Court can step in and say,
hold on a second, guys, you can't do this to
Trump just because he's Trump. Don't expect there to be
any good faith in this process when it comes to
the prosecution of Trump. Don't expect them to any guidelines
procedures meant to take into account. No, no, no, no no. If
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they can do it to Trump and it hurts them,
they'll do it. So that's why I think they'll try
to accelerate the J six case as much as they
possibly can. As I've said, the Supreme Court could step
in again and then it's all over for them. But
I'm noticing that there there's a multi pronged judicial undermining
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strategy going on from the flagship left wing publications. We've
been talking about what they've done with Justice Alito's wife,
some you know, left wing activist journal taping her pretending
to be a friendly and taping her saying nothing objectionable
by the way, like there's no problem of what she said,
(03:00):
but remember she was flying a appeal to Heaven flag
at the Alito home. And New York Times you spread
on this. They've been going after Justice Thomas for so
many reasons and for such a long time. I mean,
they've been lying about Justice Clarence Thomas and smearing Justice
Clarence Thomas for almost my entire life, feels like, you know,
I mean for a long time now. So that's nothing new,
(03:23):
but they've accelerated it recently with his Oh he traveled
with friends. Justice Thomas went on vacations with friends. It's
not illegal, it's not an ethical but they want him
to document it more or something, Okay, So they've done that.
That is all because they're hoping to pressure Roberts, who
(03:45):
is just a whimp. Oh, he's an institutionalist. I'm just
here to protect the institution of the Supreme Court. How
about protect the country and the constitution. How about worry
less about the perception of your legal peers broadly speaking,
and what the Washington Post, a bunch of lunatic communists
write about you on their editorial pages. How about Justice
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Roberts care less about that? Okay, that's one component of this,
But it's because they're trying to prepare their readership, their
political base on the left for a decision about Trump
immunity that they will not like. There's another thing that
I've seen now, the latest in this anti judicial or
(04:31):
judiciary salvo just dropping today a couple of New York
Times reporters, and the whole thing is meant to say
that Judge Eileen Cannon, who is overseeing the mar A
Lago documents case, Judge Eileen Cannon is underqualified for this
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and partisan, both of those things they suggest in this piece.
I just read through it. It just it just came
out in the last hour and popped up on my screen.
So I read through this when we were in the
commercial break. There. You wonder what I do in the
commercial breaks, I drink my Crocket coffee and I keep
reading so I can bring you the latest. So we
have Judge Eileen Cannon. They're saying that there were other
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jurists to federal judges in South Florida privately urged Eileen
Cannon to decline the case when it was assigned to
her last year. According to two people briefed on the matter,
she chose to keep it. So what this is telling
you is somebody in the federal court system down here
(05:40):
in Florida decided, for entirely partisan reasons to leak to
The New York Times private discussions among judges that cannot
be fact checked. That cannot be of course, the judges
have declined comment on this, so we don't know. But
the whole thrust of this article is Judge Eileen Cannon
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is not seasoned enough to take on this case and
has shown a partisan favoritism toward Donald Trump. Why nothing
really other than she's not trying to destroy Donald Trump.
You see, the expectation they have is for you to
be a real judge or a real prosecutor, you have
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to hate Trump, you have to want to destroy Trump.
If you don't fit into that category, you cannot be trusted,
you're unqualified, you're a partisan. They see this very much
as a binary is the black and white issue for them,
and that's why they never bring up Judge Chutkin, who
is ferociously hostile toward Donald Trump to January sixth defendants.
(06:49):
I mean, it could not be more clear where she
stands on all Trump related issues. But that's okay because
that's how she is supposed to be a wording to
the Democrat apparatus. But Judge Eileen Cannon is giving Trump
due process rights, is allowing him to challenge issues on
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the class you know, that have to do with the
classification of the material, and because of that, she isn't
going along with their hyper accelerated timeline, and that means
that she's a partisan. Isn't this a fascinating way to
look at things? Democrats believe that what's fair in this
election year for judges and prosecutors involved is to give
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Trump unfair treatment because of the threat that he represents
to democracy to speed through everything give his Remember, part
of the timing of this isn't just that it's in
the election year. It's the burden that it puts on
Trump's legal team. If you have a month or three
months to look over to you know, write memoranda, to
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do all these things, that's different than you got five
days to come back to the court with your explanation
of this right. That's a different situation. And so a
an overly speedy trial is clearly a violation of the
defendant's rights because it's being done not at the request
of the defendant. It's being done for a partisan political
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purpose ram through these trials to destroy Trump. That's what's
going on. And Judge Cannon is not playing that game.
And so here we have a member of the federal
federal Judiciary lifetime appointment and we're told that she is
unqualified to oversee this and that she is too favorable
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to Trump. You know why they're doing this because they're
such cry babies, They are such sore losers. They know
that it's very You notice I've never I haven't said
that the Judge Canon case is gonna Marlagua documents issue
is going to get done before the election. That's not
gonna no way. And a big part of it is
(09:04):
that I know how these classified information trials go, and
there's a lot of back and forth, and the government
has to explain, and the judge then has to remember,
in these cases, the government is going to say that
Trump had stuff that's really sensitive to national security, and
you have to trust them, and they don't want the
(09:24):
jury to see it, and they certainly don't want it
an open court. Well, that creates quite a problem for
the defendant, doesn't it. Because if the defendant can say
this stuff is a common knowledge or ID classified, this
stuff you can see for yourself, there's no reasona believe
this is sensitive. You can't make that case because it's
a trust us where the government situation, and as you know,
(09:46):
don't trust the government. It's a bad idea. It's like
I saw this I mentioned yesterday. I don't want to
divert too much here, but Chris Rufo is exposing this
gender transition program for kids out of Texas hog but
I think it's now being investigated by Texas state authorities.
But there's video released of FBI guys showing up, you know,
(10:07):
dressed in like, you know, casual wear, showing up like hey,
can we just talk to you. We're from the FBI.
Here's and I could see I was happy. In the comments,
every one of the comments is just all caps. Shut up,
don't talk to them, say lawyer, don't say anything. Close
the door, do not talk to them. Do not trust
(10:28):
that they are not there to help you. The FBI
is not showing up to knock on your door because
the regime is hoping to get both sides of the
story when it comes to child gender mutilation, which is
going on ideologically pushed by the Democrats, right, The FBI
is not there as your friend. Do not talk to them.
(10:51):
I was I was happy to see in the comments
on everybody everybody. I mean, I wish the people involved,
you know, weren't talking to They started talking them a
little bit, not too much. What you say is nothing.
So do you have a warrant? No contact? My attorney
have an I stay. That's it. Nothing else not. Oh
do you see the baseball game with the so and so?
(11:12):
And you know, no, nothing done. Let's get more into
some of the legal aspects here of the mar LAGU
documents case. So I thought this, I thought this was
really interesting. There was a piece in the Wall Street
Journal by a guy who clearly he's a professor at
(11:32):
Stanford Law School. Okay, he clearly does not really like Trump,
and he writes, as a professor at Stanford Law School,
an explanation of why it is entirely rational and in
fact a clear defense of our rule of law and
of our justice system to vote for Trump as a
(11:54):
protest against the lawfare they are engaged in against him,
including the Marlgo documents case. I want to walk you through.
I think this is a really important argument that is
being made here, and I think that this could be
one that turns the election so in favor of Trump.
So I want to come back to this and we'll
talk more about this piece. I think it's really interesting.
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I think we all know that, at least in America
this time of year, it gets hot in a lot
of places. That's not a surprise to you, It's not
a surprise to me. It's summer, late June already can't
believe how the time is flying by. It's like eighty
(14:11):
six degrees now I'm really doing radio eighty six degrees
in breezy in Miami Beach, it's like eighty six in Miami,
it's ninety in New York. I only bring this up
because Governor Hokeel, among others, are acting like this is
a time to freak out the governor of New York state,
state that I will always love despite all of its insanity,
(14:35):
poor governor and challenges. Governor Hokel is saying that these
are levels ninety degree fahrenheit. I mean, I guess for
a Canadian and British listeners nineties what Canada does fahrenheit too? Right?
We're the only ones that, I mean are the Brits
do celsius. I can't even keep all this stuff straight, right.
(14:55):
The Canadians use fairnheit. Canada is like America Junior. We
all know it. So so here we have a Governor
Hokel who is saying that these temperatures are never seen
before in our lifetime. YadA, YadA, play five.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
This is not a natural hot weather stretch for us
here in the state of New York, especially upstate. But
we are going to be seeing temperatures at levels we
have not seen in our lifetimes. And I want to
update New Yorkers on what we're doing about this significant
public health event. Right now, everywhere north of New York
City is under a heat advisory and it's only going
(15:30):
to get worse. Starting today in the Genesee Valley, in
the Finger Lakes, and starting tomorrow, extreme heat will hit
everywhere in the Great State of New York. Now what
does this mean. It's a dangerous mix of high temperatures
and extreme humidity causing feels like temperature of over one
hundred degrees. Now, that's hot.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I mean one hundred degrees in Texas. Isn't that like
all summer for you guys? One hundred degrees? I know
it's hot, but you know, can we stop freaking out
about this? And and of course, uh, you have to
understand that this is all about climate change, right, you
have to know that there is a Here we go,
(16:15):
the WSKG say how climate change can make is making
New York City summer hotter. Warming made recent heat wave
in US and Mexico more likely. New York Times, it's
it's everywhere. It is summertime, it is hot, and we
are getting lectures about climate change. I don't know how
(16:39):
much crazier they're going. They need to get here, we go.
This is the New York Times. Millions of Americans are
in store for a major heat wave this week as
temperatures climb in the Northeast and New York City temperatures
will be in the high nineties. Climate change means temperatures
are climbing earlier in the year. Oh okay, so if
it gets hot early in the summer, that's climate change now.
But you know what's a I bet if it got
(17:01):
hot in the middle of the summer, it would also
be climate change. And believe it or not, if the
peak temperatures that were achieved in the northeastern United States
occurred in the late summer, does anyone to guess it
would also be climate change?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
This is the great unfalsifiable This is like, this is
the this is the astrology of the meteorology world. The
climate change. You can't you can't prove it's not true.
It's insane. I don't know. I always thought we knew.
You know, the winter, it gets cold, in the summer, it
gets hot. This is kind of the way things are,
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spraying orange paint on stonehenge. A bunch of lunatics. Take
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Okay, I don't get everything right, and I'm the first
two admit that. But it turns out Canada, does you Celsius?
Who knew I thought we were? Did they? They're on
the metric system up there? Really is that? Is that?
What's going on Canada? I swear I thought we're making progress.
Maybe we're worried about the wrong border of Canada. Maybe
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just saying uh yeah, so they're on Celsius. Also, I
mentioned the passing of Donald Sutherland. Interesting. I did a
quick ask of of the team in New York what
the best Donald Sutherland film of all time is? And
you get a whole range of whole range of answers.
God had quite an extensive body of work. He was
(19:39):
in mash Ordinary People, Invasion of the Body Snatchers. More recently,
The Hunger games, which I can say I have not.
I have not read the Hunger Games books or seen
the Hunger Games movies. I have not read the Harry
Potter books. I have seen one Harry Potter movie. Uh.
And and for somebody who my wife is realizing I
(20:02):
need to find more places to keep my books. I
just the area is that my man cave is basically
just a library that's poorly organized with you know, old
keepsakes from the CIA era, you know, knives from random
countries and stuff like that, and then lots are just
books all over the place. And she asked me, she said,
how many of these have you read? I was like,
I mean, I don't know. Half of them I've read,
(20:25):
but half of them I'm going to read. That's the
whole point. You know, half of them I'm getting to.
That's why I'm stacking them up and gonna wow. Producer
Ali read all three Hunger Games books. I am. I
don't know what. I guess they I guess they are good. Yeah,
I need I need to get an actual library. I'm
a book stack guy. If you've seen the original Ghostbusters
(20:46):
film where they're in the New York Public Library in
the very beginning which is I believe now the Stephen
Schwartzman Library. It's called right on forty second Street, Brian Park.
It's a great scene. But you know they have the
books that are stacked to this. That's kind of how
my I just have book stacks in places. I just
stack them up not that high, but you know that
(21:07):
would be dangerous because Ginger. I don't want her to
get hit with a book stack. But they're kind of low.
Where oh, on the border. I'm talking about the border
a little bit. That will take some of your calls
from your VIP emails. I just I see this and
I say to myself, this isn't going to end well.
And I wish that we could get more focus on
(21:27):
this and have a a united front about this problem.
So this was the New York Post reporting this morning
that there are, yeah, a lot of migrants illegals coming
into the country. It's difficult, right because technically, if they're
(21:47):
in the asylum process during that process, I don't think
they are technically illegal, although they have entered the country illegally,
so you know, the terminology gets a little bit a
little murky, and they want you to say migrant just
because that makes it sound like, oh, they're just part
of a migration. This is a great thing. But you
have these illegals entering and you have one hundred and
(22:12):
sixty now might be more like one hundred and eighty
countries represented at the border. So we are often led
to believe that that the illegal migration is just from
Central America. Used to be Mexico. Now it's Central and
South America, and that's a big piece of it. But
name a country that is not a very rich country.
I mean, we don't have a lot of people showing
up crossing into the United States crossing the Rio Grande
(22:36):
from Liechtenstein, you know, but we do have people which
I think is the richest country per cap in the world.
Is it Monaco or Lichtenstein, It's one of them, right,
But I know that we have people from every other
particularly developing third world country showing up, and one of
them is a little place called Tajikistan. And this is
(22:58):
what the New York Post is running about. We've had
fifteen hundred migrants from Tajikistan have crossed between twenty twenty
and twenty twenty four. So this is leaked border data
that the New York Post has obtained and there have
been five hundred Tajiks which is what we call people
from Tajikistan caught this year. Now you may say, well,
(23:20):
why we focused it on this, Well, Tajikistan has become
one of the most prominent recruiting grounds for ISIS k
which is isis the Islamic State Korisan province, and Korisan
is an old Koranic designation for what is a big
(23:43):
chunk of the Middle East and South Asia. It would
be Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Stans basically would be Khorisan, and
then there would be I think it even stretches up
a little bit into the Near East. But it is
also well known in Jihada circles because there's a hadith
about the black banners marching, you know, military marching from
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Khorusan to Jerusalem and then the Mathi comes in the
end of the world. So yeah, it's important to the jihadists,
and there has been a lot of jihadist recruitment so
Muslim extremists, Muslim terrorists from Tajikistan, including the Moscow Concert
(24:29):
at a Hall attack back in March which killed one
hundred and forty five people. Those were tadjik isis K
fighters or terrorists. So this is why I'm bringing this up,
the chance of somebody who is of the isis K
mindset figuring out at some point, Hey, we don't have
(24:50):
to get a visa, we don't have to have a
clean passport, we don't have to get really creative to
enter the United States. We can just get it to
another country that doesn't really care that we're visiting because
they're not worried about terrorism, or they don't spend time
thinking about this, whether it's Mexico or any countries that
are in walking, driving bus or train distance to Mexico.
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Get to one of them and then get up through
Mexico and then you claim asylum. What is it going
to say about our border and our immigration policy if
we suffer a mass casualty attack and from someone who
was claiming asylum by crossing the US Mexico border, and
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we saw this all happening and we did nothing about it.
I don't know how the government expects that it's going
to be able to explain this to the American people
in that moment of sadness and rage, but I think
we're probably heading toward that. If you remember the I
think the Sarnae of brothers, the Boston marathon bombers. I
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believe their parents were asylum seekers. I think that's right.
I'd have to go back and check. But they flew
into the country, they didn't cross at the border. At
this point, we have hundreds and hundreds just from Tajikist. Then, look,
I know most people from Tajikistan, they you know, they
just want to be here. It's a better country. They
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want to work menial jobs. You know, ninety nine out
of one hundred of them. I'm sure higher than that.
But they're they're me no harm. They're breaking the law,
or they're lying by scamming the immigration system. But they
don't mean anyone any any actual you know, physical harm
or violence. But it only takes four or five, maybe
one or two to get into the country and conduct
(26:40):
a mass casualty plot. And we're just so wide open
to it right now. And what is the point of
all these It's basically you know, when I was with
Kerry recently, we came back, we were in the Caribbean.
We had a nice time, came back on vacation. You know,
you got to get your passport scan and go through
all this stuff, and if you're going to a country
that requires a visa, and we have all these protocols
(27:01):
we go through, including as an American when you come
back into this country, what you can bring in your
bag and all this stuff. We got ten million people
that have just showed up and done whatever they want
for the last four years. You know what I mean.
You start to think about this, You're like, what you know,
they're they're going through my bag to make sure that
you know, I didn't bring like farm equipment or something,
(27:22):
or you know, fruit or whatever. It is soil from
some point like I'm just oh, here I am, I
got bags of soil. They're probably looking for drugs, but
they're looking for soil too, And people are just coming
across the border, and there's gotaways coming across the border.
The whole thing is wide open. You sit here, you say,
why go through? Like why go through the motions? Why
pretend like they care what's really happening at the border.
(27:44):
It feels like it's all for show. And so many
of these these different and I used to work for them,
so I know these you know, different counter terrorism units
now and you know, embedded with the police and the FBI,
everything else. They can't even begin to keep track of
all the GHI threats that are able to come in
and out of this country right now. It is it's
easy to get in out of the country right now,
(28:07):
and particularly get into the country. So I guess this
is it's a little bit like talking about the debt
at this point. We're just gonna sit here and discuss
it and raise the alarm and hope that maybe somebody
in power will make some decisions to change this or
it's gonna blow up, and then everyone's gonna say, what happened?
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How do we allow this to happen? Well, by allowing
it to happen, which is what's going on day in
and day out with the Biden administration, it is a
huge vulnerability that we have a national security vulnerability, and
you add to it the ability to infiltrate this country
with spies for espionage purposes too. You know, we think, oh,
(28:50):
they're gonna come through the front door, so to speak.
They're gonna fly in, and they're gonna have, you know,
a fake passport, and you know, whether it's a you know,
Chinese or Iranians or nor Koreans on a fake passport
or whatever. I mean it come across the border easy. Anybody.
There's no way of really knowing. And I'm talking to
the people that even stop and check in. There are
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a lot of people to just make their way across.
I've seen it happen. I've been at the border where
they have you know, a big mob of one hundred people,
and the cartel says, all right, you all go now,
and all the border patrol resources because we have the
humanitarian mission and we are a kind people and we
don't want you know, a baby dying of dehydration, and
(29:33):
we don't want people that are deathly ill not to
get so border patrol just you know, like converges all
at once there. And I'm not blaming border patrol. This
is just what ends up happening. And then the cartel,
you know, a mile down the Rio Grande boom boom boom,
speedboats right across waiting for somebody on the side, usually
(29:54):
in a pickup truck or even a semi or something gone,
no resources to track them down. I have no idea.
This is day in and day out reality in America.
But you know, Biden was a worry about their democracy
and Trump and yeah, I know, I'm telling you how
it is. I wish it were different, but got to
tell you the truth here. You know, there's a movement
(30:16):
going on to change how we elect our president in
the future. It's happening in eighteen states so far, being
led by left wing activists who don't think their side
should have to lose the presidency again. Their plan do
away with the electoral college as devised by the framers
of our Constitution and motivated our friends at Hillsdale College
to conduct a national survey on presidential selection. They want
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Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, I'm gonna miss you all for a couple of days.
I've got some family family travel ahead, Gonna go see
my folks in New York and the Kerry and I
will be out there for a few days. So Clay
is going to be in solo tomorrow and Monday. I
will be back with you Tuesday, of course, in plenty
of time for the massive debate next week. And if
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in San Antonio. What's up, Debbie?
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Hi, Hello from the Alamo City. Hello, and yes, I
listened across the spectrum as far as Britt talk shows.
You know Glenn and by the way to the side,
it was always a treat for me with Glenn would
announce that you were gonna be on. I loved you
(32:40):
way back in your Glenn that day.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I listen you.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
John, I even listen to your crow Dome friend, Jesse Collie.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Hmmm, he's a great one.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, do be said best.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
However, not a single person, including your your legal cohort,
has mentioned the fact that Donald Trump is now a
convicted sella mm hmm. If there is one picture of
him at a poll.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
On election day that is called low right there for
them to throw.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Out everything, Well, hold on. My understanding of this is
that different states have different rules on but what happens
to you if you're convicted of a felony? Right, So,
I think the only places where you can be convicted
(33:42):
and even while incarcerated you can vote, or Maine in Vermont,
and then there are a whole bunch of states where
once you get out of prison you can vote. There
are a whole bunch of states where once you get
out of prison and are discharged, you can vote, and
it kind of goes on like that. You know, it's
you know, there's maybe a half a dozen states or
(34:02):
a dozen states like and then the most extreme, as
I understand it, are you have to have individual voting
rights restored through petition in Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, and Virginia.
So it depends on the state. But I will say
in Florida, yeah, I don't think he could vote in
(34:24):
Florida unless I'm missing.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Something, so basically he will not be able to vote
for himself.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
That may be true. I think I got a team
check my sense on this. In my sense is that
it depends on the state. But some states felons can
vote under there's a whole range of circumstances that determine
whether you can vote or not as a committed fellon.
But thank you, Debbie, a very good question, and we'll
dive a little deeper into it. I think my answer
(34:58):
is correct, certainly more correct in my sense of Canada's
use of measurements and weights Canada, I can't believe it
using Celsius ridiculous. Nate in Jackson, Mississippi, what's up, Nate.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Yeah, Hey, how you doing today, Buck?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'm good. Let's go on with you.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Hey, well, I won't tell you. You know, you and
h are absolutely doing rush justice shallow, great host, glad,
thank you so much. Yeah. Hey, the last lady would
be wrong. If Trump is actually living in Florida, Governor
DeSantis will pardon him in the state, will allow him
(35:40):
to be in the state, I think, But that's not why.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, I think he could petition Governor DeSantis again. I have,
fortunately I have no experience with fellow voting rights.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
This year, I will have control of the voting and
if the governor pardons the individual as a resident, he'll
be able to vote in the state.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah. I mean, if he petitions the Florida government and
they restore his voting right, then he can vote in
the state. So I think that may be able to happen. Again,
this is a very specific part of the law. It's
a great question from our fall er. No, I haven't
heard anyone else bring it up. But you know what,
call Clay tomorrow as well and throw this one at
him and see what he says. We'll see where he
(36:23):
comes down on this one. Hold on a second, Trump
will still likely be able to cast a vote for
himself in November because of Florida and New York's voting
rights restoration laws pending on the New York is one
of twenty three states where people convicted can vote even
if they're on parola probation. So he can vote in
(36:44):
New York. But okay, whatever I mean. It's dependent on
the state, folks. I got to look into the state
by state. But hand it off to Clay tomorrow. See
you guys Tuesday.
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