June 21, 2024 • 36 mins
Joe Biden hides out ahead of 90-minute debate. What’s at stake for Democrats as the presidential candidates clash. Biden will follow Obama and not endorse a successor, because there’s no way Kamala can fill his shoes as originally planned.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in now number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We roll
through the Friday edition of the program. Buck, We'll be
back with me on Tuesday. Out today and Monday, and
we'll be certainly talking a lot over the next several
days about the upcoming debate and what we should expect
to see from the debate, as Joe Biden is now
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at Camp David for the next seven days preparing for
what he is going to theoretically be able to do. Remember,
debate's only ninety minutes. There are two different commercial breaks
presumably that will knock out six or seven minutes from
the overall debate, So you're then down to what eighty
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three minutes ish Trump will talk for half of that time,
We're only talking about Joe Biden having to talk for
thirty five or forty minutes. He's preparing for one full
week to talk for the amount of time that I
talk to you every hour.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Think about how crazy that is.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The President of the United States has cleared his entire
schedule to go to Camp David and prepare to talk
to all of you for about forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
At the absolute apex.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
More likely thirty eight forty two minutes somewhere in there
when you factor in the amount of time for the
commercial breaks. I mean, honestly, with the questions being asked,
he probably only has to talk for about thirty five minutes.
He's preparing for one full week.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And I know that many of you out there agree
with me that Biden is not going to be the nominee.
And I bet Buck, I bet I bet Buck told
you the last two days. Oh, I'm sticking to it.
Clay's gonna be buying me a stake. There's no way
that they are going to move on from Biden. Let
me lay out for you what I think is actually
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going on here. June twenty seventh is the earliest we
have ever had a presidential debate in American political history.
Three months earlier, in fact, than we have ever had
an American presidential debate.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Why is that happening?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I don't think enough people are sitting back and saying,
wait a minute, what's the decision process here? Why did
the Biden team want to have a debate this early.
I don't blame Trump. He said he would debate Biden
any time, any place, anywhere, And Biden said, Okay, we
want June twenty seventh, and we want I believe it's
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September tenth. Team can check me on that if we're wrong.
Both of those are very early, but the June twenty
seventh date in particular, I just said, when you have
the speech writer trying to delete all the audio files
of Joe Biden, it should send the antenna up.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You know, you usually don't catch a.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
War telling a grand lie. That's usually not how lies
get discovered. It's usually something small that just doesn't add up,
and you pull that thread and it leads to a
much more substantial why. Big grand lies are actually sometimes
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easier to get away with, because if the why isn't
being told, it would be a foundational why. People always say, like,
how does Bernie Madeoff happen? How does Enron happen? Because
so many people are afraid to even consider that the
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very substance of the entity itself might be based.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
On a fraud. People just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Make that leap because if you're wrong on that, then
you look like a crazy person. If you came out
right before Enron imploded and you said I got this
crazy idea. I think this Houston energy company that's one
of the biggest in the world, I think it's all
a big shell game. You came out and you said
about Bernie Madoff. Hey, this guy who's been raising money
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for decades has some of the richest people out there
supporting him. I think all of this is just a
pyramid scheme. The foundational lie is so substantial that in
order to even make the argument, you have to be
willing to look a little bit crazy. Buck and I,
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by the way, today is our three year anniversary of
this show. Starting one of the first couple of months
that we were on, we had Alex Bearnson on in
our New York City studio. I believe it was July
of twenty twenty one ish, right as they were ramping
up all of the COVID shooting, COVID shotting. I think
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they're going to be on the tenth COVID shot this fall.
I'm not even kidding. The number is now ten if
you have kept all of them up to date. And
Alex Berenson came on with us, and we were one
of the only shows in America that would have this conversation,
and he said the data reflects that the COVID shot
isn't working. In the summer of twenty twenty one, if
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you remember, we were in the middle of what they
were calling hot vax summer. Everybody was going to make
up for the fact that they hadn't been able to
do anything all through twenty twenty. Rachel Maddow was getting
on her show and she was lecturing you and saying, hey,
if you get the shot, you won't get COVID. The
President of the United States told everyone in a CNN
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town hall back when he actually spoke to people and
his brain worked at least a little bit, he said,
if you get the COVID shot, you won't get COVID.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That was a promise they all made to you.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
They try to pretend they didn't, but that's exactly what
they told all of us in an encouragement to go
get the COVID shot. Alex Parenson came on with us
and he said, hey, SHOT's not working, and a lot
of people out there said, wait a minute, shots not working.
We even got blowback. A lot of people wrote nasty
things about this. I know you'll be stunned for even
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being willing to have that conversation with Alex Parence and
guess what, we were one hundred percent right, and now
we're on the tenth COVID shot. In July of twenty
twenty one, when everybody was getting their first couple of
COVID shots. If I had come on and said this
thing's going to be garbage and by June of twenty
twenty four, they're going to be telling you that the
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tenth COVID shot is coming, some of you would have
nodded your head and said, yeah, you're right. A lot
more of you would have said you're crazy, even on
this show, and certainly they would have tried to shut
us down. So I understand why some of you are
hesitant to really think about this. The only reason Joe
Biden is having the debate on June twenty seventh is
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because internally there are people who don't believe that he
is capable of being president of the United States, and
this is his attempt to try to prove to them
that he can still run. I'm telling you that's what
this is about. Nothing else adds up. Why on June
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twenty seventh, the week before July fourth, in the middle
of the summer, when a lot of you are going
to finish your work on Friday, and you're gonna hop
in your cars, or you're gonna get ready for your
travel to go on a family vacation. When July fourth
sets up on a Thursday.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And a Friday.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Before the RNC convention even starts, before the DNC convention occurs,
why would there be a presidential debate. Biden isn't even
officially the nominee. Trump isn't even officially the nominee. And
if you were out there and you were making the argument, okay, well,
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the reason why this makes sense on June twenty seventh
is because Biden's trying to get more momentum.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That date doesn't even add up.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Thursday night before a major summer holiday. A lot of you,
and I can see you out there, a lot of
you are already not even going to go into work
on June twenty eighth. You're going to start your vacation earlier.
A lot of you are already going to be on
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vacation on June twenty seventh. You know, you know why
they finished the NBA Finals as early as they do,
because historically, television ratings go down a lot in the
summer because so many people are traveling, and when you
get out of sorts with your travel schedule, you don't
watch live programming like you ordinarily. Would you ever think
about that? Why do they finish sports in early June?
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Why do they have television program for those of you
who are old enough to remember, Why do they have
television program that starts in September and finishes in May
Because once the summer travel season starts, people pay less
sins pay less attention. This isn't about Biden changing the momentum.
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This is about Biden proving that he can actually run.
This isn't even about Trump or the Republicans at all.
This is about the Democrats not believing in Joe Biden.
This is his show me moment, and I'm gonna be
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honest with y'all. I'm not even sure that I want
Trump to dominate Biden in six days. This mount might
sound counterintuitive, but I'm actually more afraid of Democrats pulling
the rug out from under Joe Biden because I think
Biden's gonna lose, and anybody out there who's arguing to you, well,
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he's gonna be great in the debate. They already made
this argument with the State of the Union, proving that
your brain works well enough for you to talk for
thirty eight minutes or sixty two minutes, or whatever the
length of time he talked in the State of the Union.
Biden's in worse shape now than he was before the
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State of the Union, because no matter what he does
on the debate stage, every time he goes up and
down the stairs of Air Force one, or every time
he walks across the White House lawn, all of us
see the reality, which is Biden is not physically or
mentally capable to be president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
We all know this deep down. Democrats know this. That's
why the debates happening in June.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And I know Buck doesn't want to believe me on this,
but tell me that this doesn't all add up. This
is about Biden either passing or failing the nomination test.
If he fails, soon after July fourth, they will trot
him out. He will say that he has righted the
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American ship, but that he understands it's time for a
new generation of leadership and he is stepping down and
won't run in twenty twenty four or accept the nomination.
And as a result, he's going to free all of
his delegates in August in Chicago to support whichever Democrat
they decide is the appropriate nominee.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Tell me why that doesn't make sense. That's if he
does poorly.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
If he does well, they're going to still try to
drag him across the finish line. Because really the date
for Biden here is when he's officially nominated in August.
Once he's officially nominated, this is set in stone. June
twenty seventh is about Biden having to pass the test
for Democrats. Second of eight September tenth, that's at least
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when people are going to start early voting. I don't
really have any major alarm bells going off about September tenth,
but June twenty seventh, all of your antenna should be up.
All of you should be asking the question why, what's
actually motivating this?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Think about it. I'll take your calls.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I'll lay this argument out a little bit more clearly
and where I think we're going and what I think
it means. But again, think aggressively. Don't listen to what
they're telling you on CNN or MSNBC or even on
a lot of the fire news shows, because I don't
think they're thinking like you have to be thinking on
this June twenty seventh date. It's unprecedented, very unique. What's
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actually the reason why it's happening. This is Biden's pass
or fail. He's either going to prove that he can
be the nominee or Democrats are kicking him to the curb.
I hope he's the nominee because I'll tell you what
I think they're gonna do if he's not when we
come back. Look, Buck's got a great friend in the
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Speaker 1 (14:35):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. And I think
it's important next Thursday, six days from now. There is
no doubt that what happens in that debate is very important.
But I actually don't think it has much to do
with Trump or the Republican Party. It's about Biden having
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to prove to Democrats that he can still be the nominee.
And I'm gonna lay out what I think is going
to happen here, and you guys can come back and
you can say, boy, June twenty first, Clay really nailed it,
or alternatively, you can come back and say you got
everything wrong. But here's what I think is going on
June twenty seven, six days from now. Is a past
fail test for Joe Biden. You remember past fail test
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sometimes good? Remember one year we got the final exam
one question. You ever have a teacher give you a
one question final exam? You study as much as you
possibly can seventh grade miss Speakman's class Science. One question exam,
phases of the moon. You didn't study the phases of
the moon. And by the way, we're going to have
a strawberry moon, supposedly an incredible moon, also called the honeymoon.
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That's where it all comes from, the lowest in the sky,
happening tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Enjoy it. You didn't know the phases of the moon.
You were screwed.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
One question exam can be great if you know the
question that's coming, can be awful.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Past fail basically right, it's a past fail exam.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
They all thought when Joe Biden won in twenty twenty
that Kamala Harris would be running right now and that
they were going to pass the Tan to her.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
That was the plan. We all know this.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
They even toyed with the idea of Biden saying as
a part of his campaign, I will pledge to only
run one term based on his age. They rejected that,
but they were planning on Kamala being the choice the
black woman. The old white guy passes the baton to
the black woman. Diversity wins. Problem was, Kamala has been
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so awful she would actually get beat worse than Joe Biden.
So they have tossed that plan into the dumpster. And
now the plan is it's either Biden or them figuring
out a way to avoid elevating Kamala Harris. They're going,
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I'm telling you, if he's not good on June twenty seventh,
if he doesn't pass the bar, they're going to kick
him to the curb. He's going to announce that he
has physical and mental issues that are keeping him from
being confident he can serve four more years. He's going
to claim that he's restored the soul of America and
that it's time for a new page to be turned.
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And he's going to follow the Barack Obama plan. Remember
Obama didn't endorse Biden until Biden was already the nominee.
He's gonna say, like Barack Obama, I don't want to
weigh in. I think Kamala Harris has done a great job.
But it's your job, as all of the Democrat members
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of this DNC, all of the delegates, to make your choice.
That's the way he avoids having to give the deputy
role to Kamala Harris, because otherwise it'll be racist and sexist.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Who will be the nominee. I've got a theory. I've
got a real theory, and I'm gonna lay it out
for you next.
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Appreciate all of you. Hang out with us, all right,
I'm laying out my thesis for all of you on
what June twenty seven, the debate six days from now
actually means the pass fail test for Joe Biden for
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the Democrat Party to illustrate that he is capable of
continuing to run. Now, I don't think anybody really thinks
that he would be capable of serving until the age
of eighty six. I mean, if you look at this
guy every week, every month, he gets worse in terms
of his physical cognition. I would expect, as we've said
on this show for some time, that they will shoot
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him up with every drug known to man, provigil whatever
is necessary in order for him to be alert enough
to make it through a ninety minute debate. Remember, the
Trump team insisted that they stand because they believe that
Biden will struggle to stand for ninety minutes. And if
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you watch the clips of him coming down the stairs,
I mean he's now wearing special shoes that are designed
to provide better balance for him and keep him from
falling over. I can't believe that this is where we are.
But Kamala can't be to nominate. And I've been saying
this for some time, which is why I liked the
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idea of Michelle Obama. And I still think there is
the potential that she would end up in the mix
because it's in Chicago. Oh, what a surprise, Michelle Obama's hometown,
the base of Barack and Michelle Obama. Oh, they can
make a big deal over the next few weeks after
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Biden's forced to drop out of trying to get Michelle
Obama to run. Oh please, Michelle Obama, will you run?
If she says yes, then that eliminates the race and
sex issues with Kamala Harris, because Michelle Obama would actually
be a black woman that people liked. And I think
Michelle Obama would have a strong turnout even if she
didn't run much of a campaign. Now the talk is
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that she doesn't want to be president, but if you
could be president without having to actually run, basically for
president of the United States, that's probably not a bad
place to be. She likes being famous, she likes the
lifestyle that they have. I think she probably would welcome
the opportunity to be not only the first woman, but
the first black woman to be president of the United States.
Maybe I'm wrong, and if I'm wrong and Michelle Obama
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really doesn't want to do it in her hometown of Chicago,
that she's not already drafting her amazing life story for
it to begin in Chicago and for her to have
to step forward and go after Donald Trump, this old,
awful white racist man who's trying to destroy the America
of her dreams that she and Barack Obama built. I
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can already write for you the exact speech that she
would deliver, and a lot of you know that it
would play well in the media, would fall over itself
because nobody's ever said a negative word about Michelle Obama
in left wing media in her entire political and celebrity era.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Who else would be the pick? Some of you were
saying Gavin Newsom, No to California. He has actually been
a disaster under Gavin Newsom. I don't think there's any
way that he could win, even though he does have
a nice, toothy smile and he's got four young kids
and he's way younger than Trump. I don't think that
Gavin Newsom is ready for prime time based on how
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Ron Desantas slapped him around like the little whiny brat.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
That Newsom is. Go back and watch that debate.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I mean, that's as debilitating of a destruction as you
have seen in two major governor figures, really in the
modern modern era for presidential style politics. Now, John Fetterman
obviously didn't have the physical or mental capacity to be
debating Doctor Oz back in. I guess it was October
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of twenty twenty two, if I remember correctly, that's the
worst debate performance that I've ever seen. But Gavin Newsom,
as someone of sound mind and spirit and body, got
wrecked so bad that his wife came on the stage
and made it stick. I would submit to you that
if your wife has to come save you at a
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political event, it's probably a sign that things are not
going very well for you. So I don't think Gavin
Newsom is going to.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Be the pick.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Jamie Pritzker. A lot of people say, oh, he's rich, Yeah,
but he's fat.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And Illinois stinks under his leadership. He will say, oh,
he should make fun of him, be a fat.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Nah, I think it does matter if you're a super
fat rich guy like you actually are the stereotype of
a fat cat. And you'll remember, while he was shutting
down in Illinois, he hopped on a plane and he
flew down to Florida with his family and they went
to Florida to live. These guys are such hypocrits. Jmi
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Pritzker too fat, unlikable. He's not going to be the nominee.
Elizabeth Warren's too old, Bernie Sanders is too old. They
might throw their hat in the ring, but they're just
too old, so take them out of the equation. Bloomberg
to run, he's too old now, even though I think
he probably would be the best choice since he's now
a Democrat, So who would the pick b I'm telling
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you look.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
At the board and think about it like this is
a chess game.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
The only way Democrats win is by winning Pennsylvania, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
They have to sweep the board in those three big
ten states or the math doesn't add up for them.
They're not winning and flipping North Carolina, Georgia is coming
back into the red team. We know Arizona and Nevada
are both looking good as well. I feel like both
of those teams are gonna be Both those states are
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gonna be on the Red team. Nevada will be a
little bit of a surprise. But actually the polling out
there is very strong for Trump. And remember a Republican
governor was the only candidate to upset an incumbent statewide
in of twenty twenty two. So Lombardo won, and you
almost had Laxalt when that Senate race against an incumbent,
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almost two statewide Republican figures one against Democrat incumbents. So
I think Nevada is gonna flip. I think Arizona's gonna flip.
I think Georgia is gonna flip. That means in North
Carolina ain't flipping all right.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That means you have to win Pennsylvania, Michigan.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And Wisconsin. It's the only route to the White House.
Democrats are strategic. They are way more committed to their
ideology by and large than Republicans are. Republicans sit around
and argue with each other about whether somebody is a
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true conservative, or whether somebody has the right beliefs on
abortion or tax policy, or you name it. You know
what I'm talking about. There are so many inter party
fights for Republicans, purity tests would call them. Democrats will
defend you no matter what you're doing. A good example
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recently is Santos was a mess right in Long Island.
He clearly lied and.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Got caught in it.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Democrats would have gone to the mat to keep him
in office. Menendez is still in the Senate and he's
standing trial right now on several serious felony charges. Democrats
will stand behind you even when you're charged with felonies.
Republicans kick Santos out. Democrats are making the argument that
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they might be able to flip the House because they
were putting pressure on Republicans to not stand behind their
charged criminals.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And meanwhile, they'll stand behind Menendez. You know this. So
they'll get in line behind whoever makes it likely for
them to win. I'm telling you what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Gretchen Whitmer and Josh Shapiro, nobody's talking about them. They
are under the radar, super popular Midwestern governors. Josh Shapiro
will win Pennsylvania if he's on the ticket for Democrats.
Gretchen Witmer will win Michigan if she's on the ticket
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for Democrats. That's gonna be the play. If Michelle Obama
won't do it, they're gonna look at the board and
they're gonna say, we got to run the table in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,
and Michigan. Let's take two of them off the board
and basically make this entire presidential contest come down to Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And I think they.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Would put somebody from Wisconsin on the ticket. I just
don't think there's somebody popular enough in Wisconsin like Shapiro
and Gretchen Whitmer are in the Midwest, they're way younger.
They turned the conversation immediately from how crappy Biden has
been to how dangerous Trump has been. They want this
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conversation to be about Trump. The problem is with Biden
as the incumbent, you have four years of data to
look at and say, Joe Biden, you've done a crappy job.
As soon as they get new, younger Democrats, they can
run the twenty twenty campaign all over again. Joe Biden
didn't really run in twenty twenty. They hit him in
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the basement, and he argued Trump was a unique threat
to American democracy and that he was going to restore
the soul of the nation, and that there's no way
that Charlottesville should ever be allowed to happen. And I'm
going to buy into the very fine people why, and
I'm going to make it the foundation of why I'm
deciding to run for president. All of that problem is
now Biden's been president for four years, and you guys
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are looking around saying, inflation's awful, the border's wide open.
Ten million people have come across Middle East.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You got to.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You got campus protest in favor of terrorists. You got Ukraine,
where we're spending hundreds of billions of dollars in the
war with Russia, and you've got a rapidly increasing overall
national debt. Everything Biden has touched has gotten worse. Doesn't
even consider the disaster of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the
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thirteen people who died there, the overall massive increases of crime,
the fact that you've got so many innocent people being
killed by illegal immigrants that are being led across the
southern border by Joe Biden's policies.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
You can't defend it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And every single one of you is paying at least
twenty percent more for goods than you used to pay
because inflation got out of control. None of that works
for Joe Biden. But if they put a new face
on the ticket, Shapiro Whitmer, oh wow, two very popular
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governors in the Midwest who could take their states off
the board and mean that all Democrats would have to
do is win Wisconsin and they win the presidency. I'm
telling you, that's really what June twenty seventh is about.
They are gonna weigh Biden's performance on June twenty seventh
against Michelle Obama. Maybe she's their aspirational candidate or the
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more likely definitely would take it and would very likely
win the race against Trump. Two young Democrat governors in
swing states. They're diabolical. They look at the board and
they make rational choices. That is the most rational choice
that the Democrat Party could make. That's why I don't
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want Joe Biden actually to perform poorly in the debate.
I think, and this is a bit counterintuitive, it's actually
better for Trump if Biden does decent on Thursday, because
I think he's a weaker candidate than Shapiro and Whitmer
would be. I think Trump's going to be Biden no
matter what happens on June twenty seventh. But I think
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Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's Friday.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
A lot of you want to weigh in on a
variety of different topics we've been talking about. I just
laid out what I think June twenty seventh is really
about Frank and Glendora, California retired psychiatrists. Do you think
that Biden is being treated with something to try to
help his mental cognition? Are we crazy when we watch
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the State of the Union, for instance, and he looks
so much different than he ordinarily does.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yes? Absolutely. I mean Sean Hannity called it red Bull
and Cassine it is not. It is dextro ancetamine. If
if it was me doing it, I'd give I would
give him two five milligram tablets every four hours. And
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and that's what I see when I see him, you know,
supposedly normal. He is definitely being given drugs. There is
no doubt about it. You even said though, about five
minutes ago, you said he was given being given something.
You're right, it's it's ancetamine, probably dextra ancetamine, because that
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is any other ancetimine is difficult in a man his age,
but dextra ancet I mean, the dextro is dextra. It's
just the more are mellow asthetamine that it is still
very effective. And there's no question.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Sorry, I mean, I think there are a lot of
you out there that are doctors. And I don't know
specific drugs that Biden would be on, but I think
there are a lot of you out there that would
say Biden is clearly on something. The Biden that we
saw on the State of the Union is not the
Biden that we see barely able to walk across the
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grass at the White House. It's not the one that
we saw sort of shamble across the runway and get
on to fly to Camp David last night. They're giving
him something. I think that's a big deal. The president
being on drugs to make him capable of doing the job.
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It seems like something Maybe then the media would want
to look into democracy dies in darkness. After all, I
gotta talk about the Washington Post before here. But John
and Iowa, you think it's going to be Michelle Obama?
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Absolutely absolutely. I couldn't agree with more of what she
had said. I think that that for her to have said,
I'm not going to run. I'm not gonna run. I'm
not going to run. She knows she's gonna run, and
I think she'll use the platform is just I don't
want to run, but I cannot allow a convicted felon
to enter the White House, and so I am going
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to stand up and run for president of the United States.
I think she is the only hope that the Democrats have.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Thank you for the call. It's been my argument for
a long time now.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Shapiro U and Whitmer or Whitman Shapiro or Whitmer Shapiro
to me as the backup plan.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
That's as far as they would fall. Mike and Joplin Missouri,
Hey Strey.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Loved the knot love the call. The show missed uh
hate trying to call in because I missed some of
the show. But I think you're missing a dark course.
I think Michelle Obama is going to be a pencil candidate.
I agree with everything you said up until then, but
I think I agree with your original things. She's just
going to be a show thing out there just to
spark some interest and excitement. But I think there's a
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dark horse candidate out there in Tulsa Gabbard. I think
you she can run, she can switch parties back to Democrat,
and she can run under bringing the Democrat party back.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Look, that is far too sane. Remember you're talking of
thank you for the call. You're talking about the most
diehard Democrats on the planet. Who are the delegates selecting
the nominee? Do you think they're going to pick somebody
who's not actually a Democrat? That, all due respect, is
crazy talk. Tulsa Gabbard is far too sane to be
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a Democrat in this day and age.
Welcome back in now number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We roll
through the Friday edition of the program. Buck, We'll be
back with me on Tuesday. Out today and Monday, and
we'll be certainly talking a lot over the next several
days about the upcoming debate and what we should expect
to see from the debate, as Joe Biden is now
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at Camp David for the next seven days preparing for
what he is going to theoretically be able to do. Remember,
debate's only ninety minutes. There are two different commercial breaks
presumably that will knock out six or seven minutes from
the overall debate, So you're then down to what eighty
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three minutes ish Trump will talk for half of that time,
We're only talking about Joe Biden having to talk for
thirty five or forty minutes. He's preparing for one full
week to talk for the amount of time that I
talk to you every hour.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Think about how crazy that is.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The President of the United States has cleared his entire
schedule to go to Camp David and prepare to talk
to all of you for about forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
At the absolute apex.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
More likely thirty eight forty two minutes somewhere in there
when you factor in the amount of time for the
commercial breaks. I mean, honestly, with the questions being asked,
he probably only has to talk for about thirty five minutes.
He's preparing for one full week.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And I know that many of you out there agree
with me that Biden is not going to be the nominee.
And I bet Buck, I bet I bet Buck told
you the last two days. Oh, I'm sticking to it.
Clay's gonna be buying me a stake. There's no way
that they are going to move on from Biden. Let
me lay out for you what I think is actually
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going on here. June twenty seventh is the earliest we
have ever had a presidential debate in American political history.
Three months earlier, in fact, than we have ever had
an American presidential debate.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Why is that happening?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I don't think enough people are sitting back and saying,
wait a minute, what's the decision process here? Why did
the Biden team want to have a debate this early.
I don't blame Trump. He said he would debate Biden
any time, any place, anywhere, And Biden said, Okay, we
want June twenty seventh, and we want I believe it's
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September tenth. Team can check me on that if we're wrong.
Both of those are very early, but the June twenty
seventh date in particular, I just said, when you have
the speech writer trying to delete all the audio files
of Joe Biden, it should send the antenna up.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You know, you usually don't catch a.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
War telling a grand lie. That's usually not how lies
get discovered. It's usually something small that just doesn't add up,
and you pull that thread and it leads to a
much more substantial why. Big grand lies are actually sometimes
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easier to get away with, because if the why isn't
being told, it would be a foundational why. People always say, like,
how does Bernie Madeoff happen? How does Enron happen? Because
so many people are afraid to even consider that the
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very substance of the entity itself might be based.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
On a fraud. People just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Make that leap because if you're wrong on that, then
you look like a crazy person. If you came out
right before Enron imploded and you said I got this
crazy idea. I think this Houston energy company that's one
of the biggest in the world, I think it's all
a big shell game. You came out and you said
about Bernie Madoff. Hey, this guy who's been raising money
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for decades has some of the richest people out there
supporting him. I think all of this is just a
pyramid scheme. The foundational lie is so substantial that in
order to even make the argument, you have to be
willing to look a little bit crazy. Buck and I,
(04:55):
by the way, today is our three year anniversary of
this show. Starting one of the first couple of months
that we were on, we had Alex Bearnson on in
our New York City studio. I believe it was July
of twenty twenty one ish, right as they were ramping
up all of the COVID shooting, COVID shotting. I think
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they're going to be on the tenth COVID shot this fall.
I'm not even kidding. The number is now ten if
you have kept all of them up to date. And
Alex Berenson came on with us, and we were one
of the only shows in America that would have this conversation,
and he said the data reflects that the COVID shot
isn't working. In the summer of twenty twenty one, if
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you remember, we were in the middle of what they
were calling hot vax summer. Everybody was going to make
up for the fact that they hadn't been able to
do anything all through twenty twenty. Rachel Maddow was getting
on her show and she was lecturing you and saying, hey,
if you get the shot, you won't get COVID. The
President of the United States told everyone in a CNN
(06:02):
town hall back when he actually spoke to people and
his brain worked at least a little bit, he said,
if you get the COVID shot, you won't get COVID.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That was a promise they all made to you.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
They try to pretend they didn't, but that's exactly what
they told all of us in an encouragement to go
get the COVID shot. Alex Parenson came on with us
and he said, hey, SHOT's not working, and a lot
of people out there said, wait a minute, shots not working.
We even got blowback. A lot of people wrote nasty
things about this. I know you'll be stunned for even
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being willing to have that conversation with Alex Parence and
guess what, we were one hundred percent right, and now
we're on the tenth COVID shot. In July of twenty
twenty one, when everybody was getting their first couple of
COVID shots. If I had come on and said this
thing's going to be garbage and by June of twenty
twenty four, they're going to be telling you that the
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tenth COVID shot is coming, some of you would have
nodded your head and said, yeah, you're right. A lot
more of you would have said you're crazy, even on
this show, and certainly they would have tried to shut
us down. So I understand why some of you are
hesitant to really think about this. The only reason Joe
Biden is having the debate on June twenty seventh is
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because internally there are people who don't believe that he
is capable of being president of the United States, and
this is his attempt to try to prove to them
that he can still run. I'm telling you that's what
this is about. Nothing else adds up. Why on June
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twenty seventh, the week before July fourth, in the middle
of the summer, when a lot of you are going
to finish your work on Friday, and you're gonna hop
in your cars, or you're gonna get ready for your
travel to go on a family vacation. When July fourth
sets up on a Thursday.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And a Friday.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Before the RNC convention even starts, before the DNC convention occurs,
why would there be a presidential debate. Biden isn't even
officially the nominee. Trump isn't even officially the nominee. And
if you were out there and you were making the argument, okay, well,
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the reason why this makes sense on June twenty seventh
is because Biden's trying to get more momentum.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That date doesn't even add up.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Thursday night before a major summer holiday. A lot of you,
and I can see you out there, a lot of
you are already not even going to go into work
on June twenty eighth. You're going to start your vacation earlier.
A lot of you are already going to be on
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vacation on June twenty seventh. You know, you know why
they finished the NBA Finals as early as they do,
because historically, television ratings go down a lot in the
summer because so many people are traveling, and when you
get out of sorts with your travel schedule, you don't
watch live programming like you ordinarily. Would you ever think
about that? Why do they finish sports in early June?
(09:19):
Why do they have television program for those of you
who are old enough to remember, Why do they have
television program that starts in September and finishes in May
Because once the summer travel season starts, people pay less
sins pay less attention. This isn't about Biden changing the momentum.
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This is about Biden proving that he can actually run.
This isn't even about Trump or the Republicans at all.
This is about the Democrats not believing in Joe Biden.
This is his show me moment, and I'm gonna be
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honest with y'all. I'm not even sure that I want
Trump to dominate Biden in six days. This mount might
sound counterintuitive, but I'm actually more afraid of Democrats pulling
the rug out from under Joe Biden because I think
Biden's gonna lose, and anybody out there who's arguing to you, well,
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he's gonna be great in the debate. They already made
this argument with the State of the Union, proving that
your brain works well enough for you to talk for
thirty eight minutes or sixty two minutes, or whatever the
length of time he talked in the State of the Union.
Biden's in worse shape now than he was before the
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State of the Union, because no matter what he does
on the debate stage, every time he goes up and
down the stairs of Air Force one, or every time
he walks across the White House lawn, all of us
see the reality, which is Biden is not physically or
mentally capable to be president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
We all know this deep down. Democrats know this. That's
why the debates happening in June.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And I know Buck doesn't want to believe me on this,
but tell me that this doesn't all add up. This
is about Biden either passing or failing the nomination test.
If he fails, soon after July fourth, they will trot
him out. He will say that he has righted the
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American ship, but that he understands it's time for a
new generation of leadership and he is stepping down and
won't run in twenty twenty four or accept the nomination.
And as a result, he's going to free all of
his delegates in August in Chicago to support whichever Democrat
they decide is the appropriate nominee.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Tell me why that doesn't make sense. That's if he
does poorly.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
If he does well, they're going to still try to
drag him across the finish line. Because really the date
for Biden here is when he's officially nominated in August.
Once he's officially nominated, this is set in stone. June
twenty seventh is about Biden having to pass the test
for Democrats. Second of eight September tenth, that's at least
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when people are going to start early voting. I don't
really have any major alarm bells going off about September tenth,
but June twenty seventh, all of your antenna should be up.
All of you should be asking the question why, what's
actually motivating this?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Think about it. I'll take your calls.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I'll lay this argument out a little bit more clearly
and where I think we're going and what I think
it means. But again, think aggressively. Don't listen to what
they're telling you on CNN or MSNBC or even on
a lot of the fire news shows, because I don't
think they're thinking like you have to be thinking on
this June twenty seventh date. It's unprecedented, very unique. What's
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actually the reason why it's happening. This is Biden's pass
or fail. He's either going to prove that he can
be the nominee or Democrats are kicking him to the curb.
I hope he's the nominee because I'll tell you what
I think they're gonna do if he's not when we
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Speaker 1 (14:35):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. And I think
it's important next Thursday, six days from now. There is
no doubt that what happens in that debate is very important.
But I actually don't think it has much to do
with Trump or the Republican Party. It's about Biden having
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to prove to Democrats that he can still be the nominee.
And I'm gonna lay out what I think is going
to happen here, and you guys can come back and
you can say, boy, June twenty first, Clay really nailed it,
or alternatively, you can come back and say you got
everything wrong. But here's what I think is going on
June twenty seven, six days from now. Is a past
fail test for Joe Biden. You remember past fail test
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sometimes good? Remember one year we got the final exam
one question. You ever have a teacher give you a
one question final exam? You study as much as you
possibly can seventh grade miss Speakman's class Science. One question exam,
phases of the moon. You didn't study the phases of
the moon. And by the way, we're going to have
a strawberry moon, supposedly an incredible moon, also called the honeymoon.
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That's where it all comes from, the lowest in the sky,
happening tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Enjoy it. You didn't know the phases of the moon.
You were screwed.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
One question exam can be great if you know the
question that's coming, can be awful.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Past fail basically right, it's a past fail exam.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
They all thought when Joe Biden won in twenty twenty
that Kamala Harris would be running right now and that
they were going to pass the Tan to her.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
That was the plan. We all know this.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
They even toyed with the idea of Biden saying as
a part of his campaign, I will pledge to only
run one term based on his age. They rejected that,
but they were planning on Kamala being the choice the
black woman. The old white guy passes the baton to
the black woman. Diversity wins. Problem was, Kamala has been
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so awful she would actually get beat worse than Joe Biden.
So they have tossed that plan into the dumpster. And
now the plan is it's either Biden or them figuring
out a way to avoid elevating Kamala Harris. They're going,
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I'm telling you, if he's not good on June twenty seventh,
if he doesn't pass the bar, they're going to kick
him to the curb. He's going to announce that he
has physical and mental issues that are keeping him from
being confident he can serve four more years. He's going
to claim that he's restored the soul of America and
that it's time for a new page to be turned.
(17:16):
And he's going to follow the Barack Obama plan. Remember
Obama didn't endorse Biden until Biden was already the nominee.
He's gonna say, like Barack Obama, I don't want to
weigh in. I think Kamala Harris has done a great job.
But it's your job, as all of the Democrat members
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of this DNC, all of the delegates, to make your choice.
That's the way he avoids having to give the deputy
role to Kamala Harris, because otherwise it'll be racist and sexist.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
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got a real theory, and I'm gonna lay it out
for you next.
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Appreciate all of you. Hang out with us, all right,
I'm laying out my thesis for all of you on
what June twenty seven, the debate six days from now
actually means the pass fail test for Joe Biden for
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the Democrat Party to illustrate that he is capable of
continuing to run. Now, I don't think anybody really thinks
that he would be capable of serving until the age
of eighty six. I mean, if you look at this
guy every week, every month, he gets worse in terms
of his physical cognition. I would expect, as we've said
on this show for some time, that they will shoot
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him up with every drug known to man, provigil whatever
is necessary in order for him to be alert enough
to make it through a ninety minute debate. Remember, the
Trump team insisted that they stand because they believe that
Biden will struggle to stand for ninety minutes. And if
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you watch the clips of him coming down the stairs,
I mean he's now wearing special shoes that are designed
to provide better balance for him and keep him from
falling over. I can't believe that this is where we are.
But Kamala can't be to nominate. And I've been saying
this for some time, which is why I liked the
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idea of Michelle Obama. And I still think there is
the potential that she would end up in the mix
because it's in Chicago. Oh, what a surprise, Michelle Obama's hometown,
the base of Barack and Michelle Obama. Oh, they can
make a big deal over the next few weeks after
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Biden's forced to drop out of trying to get Michelle
Obama to run. Oh please, Michelle Obama, will you run?
If she says yes, then that eliminates the race and
sex issues with Kamala Harris, because Michelle Obama would actually
be a black woman that people liked. And I think
Michelle Obama would have a strong turnout even if she
didn't run much of a campaign. Now the talk is
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that she doesn't want to be president, but if you
could be president without having to actually run, basically for
president of the United States, that's probably not a bad
place to be. She likes being famous, she likes the
lifestyle that they have. I think she probably would welcome
the opportunity to be not only the first woman, but
the first black woman to be president of the United States.
Maybe I'm wrong, and if I'm wrong and Michelle Obama
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really doesn't want to do it in her hometown of Chicago,
that she's not already drafting her amazing life story for
it to begin in Chicago and for her to have
to step forward and go after Donald Trump, this old,
awful white racist man who's trying to destroy the America
of her dreams that she and Barack Obama built. I
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can already write for you the exact speech that she
would deliver, and a lot of you know that it
would play well in the media, would fall over itself
because nobody's ever said a negative word about Michelle Obama
in left wing media in her entire political and celebrity era.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Who else would be the pick? Some of you were
saying Gavin Newsom, No to California. He has actually been
a disaster under Gavin Newsom. I don't think there's any
way that he could win, even though he does have
a nice, toothy smile and he's got four young kids
and he's way younger than Trump. I don't think that
Gavin Newsom is ready for prime time based on how
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Ron Desantas slapped him around like the little whiny brat.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
That Newsom is. Go back and watch that debate.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I mean, that's as debilitating of a destruction as you
have seen in two major governor figures, really in the
modern modern era for presidential style politics. Now, John Fetterman
obviously didn't have the physical or mental capacity to be
debating Doctor Oz back in. I guess it was October
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of twenty twenty two, if I remember correctly, that's the
worst debate performance that I've ever seen. But Gavin Newsom,
as someone of sound mind and spirit and body, got
wrecked so bad that his wife came on the stage
and made it stick. I would submit to you that
if your wife has to come save you at a
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political event, it's probably a sign that things are not
going very well for you. So I don't think Gavin
Newsom is going to.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Be the pick.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Jamie Pritzker. A lot of people say, oh, he's rich, Yeah,
but he's fat.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And Illinois stinks under his leadership. He will say, oh,
he should make fun of him, be a fat.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Nah, I think it does matter if you're a super
fat rich guy like you actually are the stereotype of
a fat cat. And you'll remember, while he was shutting
down in Illinois, he hopped on a plane and he
flew down to Florida with his family and they went
to Florida to live. These guys are such hypocrits. Jmi
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Pritzker too fat, unlikable. He's not going to be the nominee.
Elizabeth Warren's too old, Bernie Sanders is too old. They
might throw their hat in the ring, but they're just
too old, so take them out of the equation. Bloomberg
to run, he's too old now, even though I think
he probably would be the best choice since he's now
a Democrat, So who would the pick b I'm telling
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you look.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
At the board and think about it like this is
a chess game.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
The only way Democrats win is by winning Pennsylvania, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
They have to sweep the board in those three big
ten states or the math doesn't add up for them.
They're not winning and flipping North Carolina, Georgia is coming
back into the red team. We know Arizona and Nevada
are both looking good as well. I feel like both
of those teams are gonna be Both those states are
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gonna be on the Red team. Nevada will be a
little bit of a surprise. But actually the polling out
there is very strong for Trump. And remember a Republican
governor was the only candidate to upset an incumbent statewide
in of twenty twenty two. So Lombardo won, and you
almost had Laxalt when that Senate race against an incumbent,
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almost two statewide Republican figures one against Democrat incumbents. So
I think Nevada is gonna flip. I think Arizona's gonna flip.
I think Georgia is gonna flip. That means in North
Carolina ain't flipping all right.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That means you have to win Pennsylvania, Michigan.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And Wisconsin. It's the only route to the White House.
Democrats are strategic. They are way more committed to their
ideology by and large than Republicans are. Republicans sit around
and argue with each other about whether somebody is a
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true conservative, or whether somebody has the right beliefs on
abortion or tax policy, or you name it. You know
what I'm talking about. There are so many inter party
fights for Republicans, purity tests would call them. Democrats will
defend you no matter what you're doing. A good example
(26:05):
recently is Santos was a mess right in Long Island.
He clearly lied and.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Got caught in it.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Democrats would have gone to the mat to keep him
in office. Menendez is still in the Senate and he's
standing trial right now on several serious felony charges. Democrats
will stand behind you even when you're charged with felonies.
Republicans kick Santos out. Democrats are making the argument that
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they might be able to flip the House because they
were putting pressure on Republicans to not stand behind their
charged criminals.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And meanwhile, they'll stand behind Menendez. You know this. So
they'll get in line behind whoever makes it likely for
them to win. I'm telling you what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Gretchen Whitmer and Josh Shapiro, nobody's talking about them. They
are under the radar, super popular Midwestern governors. Josh Shapiro
will win Pennsylvania if he's on the ticket for Democrats.
Gretchen Witmer will win Michigan if she's on the ticket
(27:28):
for Democrats. That's gonna be the play. If Michelle Obama
won't do it, they're gonna look at the board and
they're gonna say, we got to run the table in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,
and Michigan. Let's take two of them off the board
and basically make this entire presidential contest come down to Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And I think they.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Would put somebody from Wisconsin on the ticket. I just
don't think there's somebody popular enough in Wisconsin like Shapiro
and Gretchen Whitmer are in the Midwest, they're way younger.
They turned the conversation immediately from how crappy Biden has
been to how dangerous Trump has been. They want this
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conversation to be about Trump. The problem is with Biden
as the incumbent, you have four years of data to
look at and say, Joe Biden, you've done a crappy job.
As soon as they get new, younger Democrats, they can
run the twenty twenty campaign all over again. Joe Biden
didn't really run in twenty twenty. They hit him in
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the basement, and he argued Trump was a unique threat
to American democracy and that he was going to restore
the soul of the nation, and that there's no way
that Charlottesville should ever be allowed to happen. And I'm
going to buy into the very fine people why, and
I'm going to make it the foundation of why I'm
deciding to run for president. All of that problem is
now Biden's been president for four years, and you guys
(28:54):
are looking around saying, inflation's awful, the border's wide open.
Ten million people have come across Middle East.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You got to.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You got campus protest in favor of terrorists. You got Ukraine,
where we're spending hundreds of billions of dollars in the
war with Russia, and you've got a rapidly increasing overall
national debt. Everything Biden has touched has gotten worse. Doesn't
even consider the disaster of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the
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thirteen people who died there, the overall massive increases of crime,
the fact that you've got so many innocent people being
killed by illegal immigrants that are being led across the
southern border by Joe Biden's policies.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
You can't defend it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And every single one of you is paying at least
twenty percent more for goods than you used to pay
because inflation got out of control. None of that works
for Joe Biden. But if they put a new face
on the ticket, Shapiro Whitmer, oh wow, two very popular
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governors in the Midwest who could take their states off
the board and mean that all Democrats would have to
do is win Wisconsin and they win the presidency. I'm
telling you, that's really what June twenty seventh is about.
They are gonna weigh Biden's performance on June twenty seventh
against Michelle Obama. Maybe she's their aspirational candidate or the
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more likely definitely would take it and would very likely
win the race against Trump. Two young Democrat governors in
swing states. They're diabolical. They look at the board and
they make rational choices. That is the most rational choice
that the Democrat Party could make. That's why I don't
(30:44):
want Joe Biden actually to perform poorly in the debate.
I think, and this is a bit counterintuitive, it's actually
better for Trump if Biden does decent on Thursday, because
I think he's a weaker candidate than Shapiro and Whitmer
would be. I think Trump's going to be Biden no
matter what happens on June twenty seventh. But I think
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Democrats know it, and deep down they're looking for a
reason to replace Biden. And that's why this debate is
happening in six days. You guys can weigh in let
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Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's Friday.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
A lot of you want to weigh in on a
variety of different topics we've been talking about. I just
laid out what I think June twenty seventh is really
about Frank and Glendora, California retired psychiatrists. Do you think
that Biden is being treated with something to try to
help his mental cognition? Are we crazy when we watch
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the State of the Union, for instance, and he looks
so much different than he ordinarily does.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yes? Absolutely. I mean Sean Hannity called it red Bull
and Cassine it is not. It is dextro ancetamine. If
if it was me doing it, I'd give I would
give him two five milligram tablets every four hours. And
(33:20):
and that's what I see when I see him, you know,
supposedly normal. He is definitely being given drugs. There is
no doubt about it. You even said though, about five
minutes ago, you said he was given being given something.
You're right, it's it's ancetamine, probably dextra ancetamine, because that
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is any other ancetimine is difficult in a man his age,
but dextra ancet I mean, the dextro is dextra. It's
just the more are mellow asthetamine that it is still
very effective. And there's no question.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Sorry, I mean, I think there are a lot of
you out there that are doctors. And I don't know
specific drugs that Biden would be on, but I think
there are a lot of you out there that would
say Biden is clearly on something. The Biden that we
saw on the State of the Union is not the
Biden that we see barely able to walk across the
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grass at the White House. It's not the one that
we saw sort of shamble across the runway and get
on to fly to Camp David last night. They're giving
him something. I think that's a big deal. The president
being on drugs to make him capable of doing the job.
(34:53):
It seems like something Maybe then the media would want
to look into democracy dies in darkness. After all, I
gotta talk about the Washington Post before here. But John
and Iowa, you think it's going to be Michelle Obama?
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Absolutely absolutely. I couldn't agree with more of what she
had said. I think that that for her to have said,
I'm not going to run. I'm not gonna run. I'm
not going to run. She knows she's gonna run, and
I think she'll use the platform is just I don't
want to run, but I cannot allow a convicted felon
to enter the White House, and so I am going
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to stand up and run for president of the United States.
I think she is the only hope that the Democrats have.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Thank you for the call. It's been my argument for
a long time now.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Shapiro U and Whitmer or Whitman Shapiro or Whitmer Shapiro
to me as the backup plan.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
That's as far as they would fall. Mike and Joplin Missouri,
Hey Strey.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Loved the knot love the call. The show missed uh
hate trying to call in because I missed some of
the show. But I think you're missing a dark course.
I think Michelle Obama is going to be a pencil candidate.
I agree with everything you said up until then, but
I think I agree with your original things. She's just
going to be a show thing out there just to
spark some interest and excitement. But I think there's a
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dark horse candidate out there in Tulsa Gabbard. I think
you she can run, she can switch parties back to Democrat,
and she can run under bringing the Democrat party back.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Look, that is far too sane. Remember you're talking of
thank you for the call. You're talking about the most
diehard Democrats on the planet. Who are the delegates selecting
the nominee? Do you think they're going to pick somebody
who's not actually a Democrat? That, all due respect, is
crazy talk. Tulsa Gabbard is far too sane to be
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a Democrat in this day and age.
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