June 21, 2024 • 36 mins
Supreme Court watch on presidential immunity ruling for Trump. Biden goes into hiding to prepare for make-or-break debate. Alvin Bragg drops charges against anti-Israel rioters at Columbia. Lady Justice is blind for a reason. Go back and read To Kill a Mockingbird. Biden’s leaking to his ghostwriter and mishandling classified material.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. Buck, We'll be
back with me on Tuesday. I am back from what
might be described as a disastrous golf performance at the
Live Nashville Golf event. Hank Haney says he can fix
my swing as he once fixed Rush swing, So we'll
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see whether or not that can become a reality. We
have got a lot to discuss with all of you
as we roll into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Right off the top.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Still no verdict, no ruling, no decision on what exactly
is going to happen when it comes to presidential immunity
for Donald Trump as it pertains to the January sixth
cases brought by Jack Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
As we've told you for some.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Time on this program, it feels like these are going
to be released at the absolute latest time imaginable. Next
week is scheduled to be the last day, last couple
of days of release from the opinions I believe. I
was texting with Shannon Breem earlier. She covers the Supreme
Court for Fox News. She said there are still sixteen
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cases that are outstanding, including the Trump immunity case, and
what's going to end up happening with the jan sixth cases,
the Fisher case that you've heard us talk about a
lot with Julie Kelly in terms of whether or not
that those charges under Sarvaine's Oxley of basically messing up
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a proceeding are going to be allowed to proceed. So
all of that still to come. And we're sitting six
days away from the big debate on June twenty seventh
in Atlanta on CNN, no crowds, President, but Joe Biden
has to stand for ninety minutes, and Joe Biden has
now gone to camp. David basically ended everything on his
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schedule to prepare for a ninety minute debate that is
already being called essentially his camp in that if he
does poorly in this, the race is effectively over. I've
got a lot of thoughts on that, as you can
well imagine. We'll talk about that a little bit maybe
in the second hour. Of course, we will take your
calls on a Friday as we often do eight hundred
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and two two eight A two, and Kelly Leffler, former
Senator from Georgia, is going to be with us in
the final hour of the program. She's doing great work
to help make sure that Georgia turns back read with
her advocacy group down there. We will discuss many different
issues with her in the third hour of the program.
But she's the only guest right now scheduled to be
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with us. So let's dive in because I think there
are a couple of stories that are not getting the
amount of attention that they should have that I want
to discuss with all of you. First, you probably have
heard that Alvin Bragg, who charged Donald Trump with thirty
four felonies, who elevated misdemeanors too felonies at a time
when he almost always is lowering felonies to misdemeanors, has
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all of the charges against the Columbia University protesters who
took over campus buildings clearly violated laws on trespassing. There
are arguable assaults that were created and involved in the
takeover of those buildings.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But let's listen.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I believe it has cut for to a discussion about
the charges all being dropped there here.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It is now that the Manhattan.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
District Attorney's office has dropped criminal charges against dozens of
anti Israel protesters who barricaded themselves in buildings at Columbia
University back in April without even a slap on the wrist,
and now there's outrage over this move and it is
growing fast. Nate Floy is live with the latest on
this story for US Nate.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Hey, Jackie.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
So, the cases of thirty one Columbia Universities students and
staff members arrested at Hamilton Hall are now dismissed. Prosecutors
say there is insufficient evidence to prove the defendants caused
damage or injured anybody because of a lack of sec
creity camera footage and the fact that protesters wore face masks.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
This is bonkers. I would imagine New York City Mayor
Eric Adams is furious about this. This is not a
difficult case to actually prosecute. They arrested the protesters illegally
trespassing in the building after they had taken control of
the building, after they had chained the doors, and refuse
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to leave. This is one of the easiest cases imaginable.
But the charges are being dropped and at the same
time they have done everything they can. I believe they're
going to try to put Trump in prison. On July
eighth when he shows up for sentencing. I expect that
Alvin Bragg will request prison time for Trump. That remains
to be seen. The reports have been that the district attorney,
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Alvin Bragg will actually share his impressions of what the
punishment should be in court filings, although I would suspect
those will leak immediately in the New York Time, the
Washington Post, probably the New York Times will break that
story before the court filings have hardly even hit the docket.
So I want to bring this up because there are
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two instances of late that have not received substantial amounts
of attention that I believe should have, of clear crimes
being committed by Democrats where absolutely nothing has happened to them.
Now there are lots of examples of this. Certainly we
could go in and talk about doctor Fauci and all
the lies that he's told. Hunter Biden finally getting prosecuted,
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convicted in Delaware soon to be convicted, I believe, based
on the fact that he clearly didn't pay millions of
dollars in taxes in California when that case is scheduled
to go to trial in September. But two cases that
I haven't heard very many people talk about and I
want to hit you with the details on them here.
Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, is
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refusing to turn over audio recordings of President Biden being
questioned by Robert Herr, the special counsel. You'll recall that
Joe Biden came out and claimed that he was misquoted,
that he was asked all sorts of questions that he
believed were outside the pale of the investigation, claiming you
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remember in a fiery press conference back in I believe
February that his own son's death bow had been brought up,
and the fact that he couldn't remember when that happened,
or that he got dates confused, was a sign of
somehow this being an unfair investigation. And remember the ultimate
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decision of Robert Herr was that Joe Biden was a
well meaning elderly man who didn't have the mental faculties
to be charged with crimes that he actually committed. Well,
I believe it's incredibly important, particularly because the Biden White
House is now claiming that videos showing clear cognitive and
physical decline of Joe Biden are cheap fakes. I believe
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that all of us should be able to hear Joe
Biden answer the questions of Robert Her. There are audio
files as we are soon to enter presidential voting time.
Don't you believe that, given the fact that Joe Biden
doesn't have very many interviews that he gives period, we
should be able to hear Biden answering questions of Robert
Her and make our own determination about how he sounds,
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either positive or negative. Is this a man that we
believe can get on the phone with Ukraine, with Russia,
with China and try to deal with major geopolitical issues
that are unspooling on a day to day basis. Or
is his mental and physical cognition a severe issue?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
To me?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
This is not a remotely difficult question. And the Republicans
in Congress voted and said, we believe that this tape
should be released. Merrick Garland said no, They held him
in contempt because he's refusing to comply with our request
from Congress. And Merrick Garland's own Department of Justice said, hey,
guess what, this is not a violation of the law.
(08:09):
We can do whatever we want here. So Merrick Garland
clear contempt of Congress, no prosecution at all. He's above
the law, which Joe Biden, of course claims no one is. Meanwhile,
Steve Bannon is having to appeal to the Supreme Court
because otherwise he's going to have to begin a four
month jail sentence on July first. That's a pretty direct comparison.
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Bannon defies Congress's orders and he's put in prison for
four months. Merrick Garland defies Congressional request that he merely
released the actual audio files of Joe Biden's investigation. That
hearing that questioning of Robert Hrr and the Department of
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Justice says, hey, Merrick Garland doesn't have any criminal culpability
at all. He can just thumb his nose at Congress.
That's pretty significant. Second one, and I think this is
massive and it's important to understand where we are when
it comes to the justice system. No charges at all
are being brought in this classified document case which Robert
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Hurr was investigating against Joe Biden, even though they found
that he wilfully retained classified documents, remember classified documents that
likely originated from his days in the Senate or potentially
when he was Vice president, that he kept in files
beside his corvette and that he bragged about finding on
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audio to his ghostwriter of his book. The ghostwriter, as
soon as this classified document investigation began, tried to delete
all of the audio files of his interviews with Joe Biden.
They know this, They uncovered that he had done it.
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Nothing has happened to.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Him at all.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Repeat this because I think this is actually a situation
where Republicans are dropping the ball in Congress. This is
not a very complicated case. The ghostwriter of Joe Biden's autobiography,
Remember these guys don't actually write their own autobiographies. The
ghostwriter had on tape Joe Biden bragging about retrieving classified
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documents that he shared with his ghostwriter. Who knows what
else Joe Biden was saying on those audio tapes. As
soon as the Robert Hurr investigation began, the ghostwriter of
this book tried to delete all of the audio files
that he had of Joe Biden. That's clear destruction of evidence.
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Why has he not been this ghostwriter hauled directly in
front of Congress and made to answer questions under oath.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But on a larger scale, how in the world have.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
No charges been brought against him, to say nothing of
Joe Biden, but at least he has presidential immunity because
he's currently in office, and there's a Department of Justice
idea that you can't be prosecuted. But we know that
Joe Biden willfully retained classified documents, bragged about having them
on audio, and that his ghostwriter then tried to delete
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all of the files as soon as he knew this
investigation began.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
How many of you even know that.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
One of the big challenges that frustrates me in general
is every day there is a fire hose worth of
stories that are spraying out in every direction. And one
of the big problems that we have is the Republican
Party doesn't do a good job figuring out what matters
and what needs to be focused on. I mean, honestly,
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how many of you even knew that ghostwriter story? How
many of you knew that Joe Biden is on tape
bragging about having classified documents to his ghostwriter, and that
the ghostwriter tried to destroy.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
All of these files.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
That is very clear evidence destruction of evidence. It's an
easy case to bring in a federal investigation, Yet nothing
has happened. To this ghostwriter, and for the most part,
nobody has talked about it at all.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Why is this not a major point of discussion.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Why is this guy, this ghostwriter not hauled immediately before
Congress and made to answer questions? And how in the
world can you justify him not being charged with crimes.
He's not president, he doesn't have presidential immunity. These conversations
that he tried to destroy happened back when Biden was
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after Biden was vice president, not when he was president.
There's no claim that these are somehow protected conversations. However,
Republicans dropped the ball on this. And what might that
ghostwriter say if he was actually facing criminal charges, and
as should be the case, people were trying to put
him in prison, might he turn on Joe Biden and
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actually share a lot more incriminating evidence. This is just
no brainer, basic blocking and tackling not being executed. It's
an easy story for everyone out there to understand. Why
is the Republican party not focusing on this story? Biden
on audio bragging about having classified documents that he had
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no business being able to retain, and his ghostwriter who
told him to suddenly destroy all that evidence that's a
pretty big decision for a ghostwriter to make. That he
goes into a computer and starts trying to destroy all
the files of all of his investigations. You don't think
somebody told him.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
How do we not have this guy under oath? How
is he not being charged? I want to talk about
this more, but I think it's very instructive. As Alvin
Bragg continues to drop charges against everybody arrested in Colombia,
as Merrick Garland Thumb said, knows that Congressional demands that
he released the actual audio files of Biden's Robert Her investigation,
and as the ghost writer here knowingly destroying evidence to
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try to protect Joe Biden. How is this not a
bigger story? Why is he not under oath? How is
he avoided being charged? We'll talk about all that more.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I mentioned
that Biden is going to be at Camp David for
a week, and also that I spent yesterday at the
liv Nashville Pro Am played with a lot of pro
golfers that are out there. Bryson Dischambau, for those of
you who are golfers, just just won the US Open.
(15:44):
I am not a great golfer. I played, by the
way with Martin Kimer, who was the number one golfer
in the world, won a couple of golf events. Absolutely
crushes the ball. But I was watching a video of
Biden walking off of Air Force one down. They actually
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used the long staircase straight across the tarmac to the
helicopter that was gonna take him to Camp David. And remember,
he's gonna spend a week there, and we're gonna talk
about the debate being six days from now. But I also,
right before then, had shared a video of me missing
a short putt and absolutely devastating response that I'm gonna
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be honest with you, I still haven't recovered from one
of you said that I putt like Joe Biden walks.
And I'm not sure that anyone has ever been more
devastating when describing my golf game than saying that I
putt like Joe Biden walks. Mike Maxwell, I want to
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give him credit for it. You put like bo Biden walks.
Now if you're a golfer, I would suggest you put
that one in your back pocket for when one of
your buddies misses a putt that he should make. Maybe
your buddy is Rory McElroy and it cost him the
US Open. But to describe someone who does something poorly
as being worse than Biden walks is a devastating back
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pocket insult for all of you to save. So Mike,
there you go. You've absolutely eviscerated my golf game. And
I had a great time. Met a lot of listeners,
as we always do, and a lot of the golfers
are big fans of this show and also out probably
not a huge surprise for you that many of them
would also be big Trump supporters, but I did think
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that was someone interesting talking to some of those guys
around the clubhouse yesterday. Now, when we come back, I
want to take some of your call because I want
to see if as many of you are stunned by
the fact that it hasn't been a bigger story that
the actual ghost writer for Joe Biden has Biden on
tape bragging about having classified documents and that he tried
to destroy all that evidence, and Republicans have not really
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Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with
us as we are rolling through the Friday edition of
the program talking about the fact that we clearly have
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a two tiered system of justice. Some of you out
there say, Okay, that's true, what are we going to
do about it? I think that's a very valid response.
I think that's probably the number one response that is
out there. And I've called pretty aggressively for red state
DA's and red state attorney generals to turn the tables
and start to file charges against Democrats, because I think
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you have to put the fear in them that the
precedents they've set, as it pertains to Republicans will be
applied even lead to them as well. That's the only way,
and that disappoints me as a lawyer because I'm old
school in the sense that I want to aspire to
the standards of Lady Justice. And I've talked with you
guys quite a lot about Lady Justice. She's blind for
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a reason. If you have seen the traditional scales of justice,
the aspiration is is to treat everyone equal, no matter
what they look like. And that's why Lady Justice is blind,
because the idea that your identity should implicate whether you're
found guilty or innocent, or whether you're even charged with
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a crime, should not come into play. And I'll be
the first to tell you that America has often failed
to live up to that aspiration, which is why my
most recent book I made the argument that we have
come full circle in the world of justice where it
used to be for those of you who grew up
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and read probably the most famous American novel of the
twentieth century, I would wager to Kill a Mockingbird. Certainly
I would bet the most read just about book of
the American twentieth century work of fiction. Atticus Finch is
the heroic lawyer, and I believe Makeum Alabama if I'm
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remembering the specific scout his daughter coming of age, Jim,
her brother. He is defending Tom Robinson, who is a
black man accused of sexually assaulting raping a white woman,
and the evidence clearly demonstrates that Tom Robinson didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But Mayella Eule.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
And some of you, by the way, probably cheated and
wanted to watch the Gregory Peck movie because you should
have read the book, but you watched the movie instead,
So you're seeing this in the context of the movie
as opposed to the book. I'm on to you, you
can come clean now, go back and read the book now.
But the important thing is that book published in nineteen
sixty about a nineteen thirties crime in the American South
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where justice was not rendered because of the identity of
the alleged criminal. What we now have created, crazily is
a world where your political identity and your gender and
racial identity impacts whether or not you get charged with
the crime and how you're treated. And I was thinking
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about this recently. I don't know that we have discussed it,
but I got an email notification recently Nashville, my hometown,
in a part of Nashville, they're going to paint the
rainbow for Pride Month on the road, and they're going
to have a gay Pride insignia in some way on
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the road, as many different cities across the country now have.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
And what's wild.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Is, if you want to talk about disparate notions of justice,
have you seen that they are prosecuting people for putting
tire marks on painted roadways as hate crimes. I'm sided, like,
this is crazy to me. First of all, I'm not
in favor. Let me just put it on the record.
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I'm not in favor in general of painting roadways with
political messages of any sort. I don't think that's a
good idea. It seems like a waste of funds. It
seems like something that you have to constantly go back
and adjust. But if you do it on a public
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roadway and someone decides that they want to send the
message that they disagree with whatever is on the public roadway,
how is that a hate crime? And I'm gonna be
honest with you, I would be content neutral on this application.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It wouldn't make me happy if.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
For July fourth, they decided we're going to paint the
American flag on roadways everywhere, and somebody who was upset
with America decided that they wanted to disrespect the American
flag painted on the roadway by putting skin marks on them, by.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Burning out burning rubber on it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I wouldn't agree with that decision, but I would say
they should be able to do that zooming. They're not
violating some sort of motor ordinance, and it certainly shouldn't
be a hate crime. If you paint a roadway, it
seems to me you're encouraging people to give you their
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opinion of the road if it's just black asphalt. I
don't think most people really think about the road as
having a political opinion.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't hear anybody trying. Am I crazy on this?
Or is the idea that we're.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Going to paint roads with political messages not bonkers. Now,
if you decide you own a business and you have
a parking lot and you want to paint your entire
parking lot in the Pride flag or the American flag,
or the supporting police flag, the blue flag, all of
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that would be fine to me. And you could potentially
charge somebody if you own the physical parking lot with
a crime for trespassing into facing your property. That would
be fine. But on a public roadway that all of
us pay for, I just want them to fix the potholes.
I have to dodge potholes everywhere I drive in Nashville.
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Why are they deciding that they need to put a
Pride flag on a public roadway. You want to hang
a Pride flag outside of your business, you want to
hang an American flu, whatever you want to do, go
for it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's capitalism.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
But how have we set the precedent that there's going
to be a greater punishment for someone for deciding that
they want to burn out on a Pride flag on
a public roadway than there is for someone at Columbia University,
who is making the decision that they're going to take
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over a campus building. If you were thinking to yourself,
just in the larger context, what's some greater threat to
the public a guy in.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
A car burning rubber on a.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Pride flag or thirty some odd protesters taking over a
campus building and refusing to come out and using chains
to lock the doors. If you were in charge of
justice and you had to decide which of those two
guys should face the most severe punishment, wouldn't you choose
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for the person who locked themselves inside of a building
to face a more severe punishment than the guy on
the public road who decided to burn out on a
Pride flag. I don't know how we have reached a
place where defacing a Pride mural is considered a hate
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crime when it's on a public street. And again, I
don't agree with the idea of painting public streets with
any slogans or do they do Black Lives Matter plaza
outside of Lafayette Park.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I think that was stupid to do.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't think public roads should make and have political
slogans on them of any degree. But think about the
two tiered aspect of justice that we have created where
Democrats try to put you in prison for the rest
of your life if you upset them, and Republicans for
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the most part, do absolutely nothing to democrats. I'm in
favor of Lady Justice being blind, that is the aspirational goal.
But if Lady Justice is clearly peeking, if you've basically
turned the blindfold and ripped it off and you're throwing
the book at Republicans or conservatives, I'm sorry you have
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to do the same thing to democrats because that's how
you actually even the scales. And I was seeing the
story with what they're doing to people who are burning
rubber on Pride flags on public streets. They have surveillance
cameras set up to try to catch people not behaving
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respectfully enough when it comes to driving over the flag
on the road. They are setting traps like a speed trap.
It's a hate crime trap. They're trying to catch people
not respecting the road enough that they have painted, and
people are just saying this is totally fine. By and large,
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people aren't asking the question, which to me is very basic,
why do we have to paint roads? Can we fix potholes?
I live in Nashville. They're potholes everywhere. At a cold winter,
they still haven't fixed them all. My priority, call me crazy,
of any road is make me able to drive on
it without exploding my tires, without having to basically be
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off road trying to avoid hitting big potholes. And it
seems to me that Democrats are like, no, no, no, we
got to make sure that we have the gay pride
flag on the road, and if you don't drive over
it respectfully enough, we're going to try to put you
in prison. It seems to me you would have a
First Amendment argument again, if you want to argue that
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somebody violated the law because they burned rubber because they
drove too fast, I understand that on some level, but
that's not what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
They're trying to do hate crimes. Now.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
For driving over gay pride flags, you create the problem
that is make it impossible basically to not drive over
the flag and then try to punish to the full
extent of the wall. I haven't heard anybody asking why
are we painting, but the second part, why are we
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painting the roads? Second part, why in.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
The world, Why in the world is this happening?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And almost no one is speaking out about it at all.
It's crazy, and I would stand on principle on this,
even if it's for July fourth, we painted the American
flag on a road. If somebody decided that they wanted
to disrespect the American flag, I wouldn't agree with it,
but I certainly wouldn't agree with trying to put them
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in prison. I just there are so many crazy things
that happen every day that I think sometimes we aren't
paying attention to how crazy they are and to establishing
what is considered appropriate and inappropriate. And they set traps
and then they spring them, and a lot of people
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don't even realize what's going on. I want to tell you,
speaking of setting traps, how about the number one trap
out there being that there's almost no testosterone in the
Biden White House. In fact, sadly, the amount of testosterone
in the United States is at an all time low.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton show. A lot
of you weighing in a variety of different topics that
we've had so far against a couple of your calls
and layout where we're headed. But a good question from Damon,
did the ghost writer succeed in destroying the audio tapes?
How much of the evidence was destroyed, how much survived
the destruction? Some of us out here would like to know. Hey, Damon,
(33:02):
I'm with you. We do not know all of the
details publicly about what exactly has happened with Joe Biden's
ghostwriter and the tapes that he tried to destroy. I
believe he claimed that he retained the transcripts. Very interesting
decision there, Right, There is a legal canon essentially that
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says in cases that if it's proven that you destroyed evidence,
you can draw an inference that the evidence would not
have been helpful to the individual that destroyed it. Pretty basic, right,
If you have a gun that you committed a crime
with and you throw it into a lake, and there's
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video of you throwing that gun into the lake, and
for some reason they can't find it or you throw
it into the ocean. It's reasonable to presume that you
didn't want that gun found because it might be a
negative for you.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
That's not crazy at.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
All, and so alarm bell should immediately set off in
your head when you hear that Joe Biden's ghostwriter tried
to destroy all of the audio recordings of Joe Biden
the minute that the investigation into the classified documents that
Biden retained began. And this to me, for Judge Eileen
(34:26):
Cannon in South Florida, who has the classified documents case
against Trump, all of this evidence to me is quite
clear that all the classified documents cases should be dropped.
I think Trump's going to win in November in this
case will basically vanish. And I think She's done a
good job dragging her feet on this process and actually
(34:47):
holding Jack Smith accountable for everything that has been going on.
But this is crazy that we would ever have reached
the point where Biden is legitimately destroying evidence and there's
audio of him bragging about having classified documents when he
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had no presidential privilege at all, and they say that
his brain doesn't work well enough for him to be
charged with a crime. Meanwhile, he's trying to run for reelection,
arguing that his brain is working so well that he
should be trusted in, trusted with the biggest and most
important job in America for the next four years. That
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to me all feels like a major point of the
emphasis that should become a big Republican talking point that's
being totally missed right now.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Joe in Colorado, what you got.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Whether or not the ghost Rada had a clearance.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Security clearer military.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
For twenty years, and I held a top secret clearance,
and we ever gave all that information out with the
in Fort Leavenworth campus.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yes, thank you for the culture. It's a great question.
Buck has talked about this when he was at the CIA.
If he had done what Joe Biden did, Buck says
he would be lucky to be a trying to avoid
prison time potentially years in prison, and to brag about
finding the classified documents on tape to your ghost writer
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makes it quite clear that you willfully retain that information. Now,
the next step, of course, is why do you think
that some of them might have involved Ukraine, might have
involved Russia, might have involved China, and in some way
aided and abetted Hunter Biden and being able to argue
that he deserved tens of millions of dollars from foreign
interest I don't think that's a crazy connection to make.
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We'll talk about that and more rolling through the Friday edition.
I'm Clay Travis. Thanks for hanging
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. Buck, We'll be
back with me on Tuesday. I am back from what
might be described as a disastrous golf performance at the
Live Nashville Golf event. Hank Haney says he can fix
my swing as he once fixed Rush swing, So we'll
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see whether or not that can become a reality. We
have got a lot to discuss with all of you
as we roll into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Right off the top.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Still no verdict, no ruling, no decision on what exactly
is going to happen when it comes to presidential immunity
for Donald Trump as it pertains to the January sixth
cases brought by Jack Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
As we've told you for some.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Time on this program, it feels like these are going
to be released at the absolute latest time imaginable. Next
week is scheduled to be the last day, last couple
of days of release from the opinions I believe. I
was texting with Shannon Breem earlier. She covers the Supreme
Court for Fox News. She said there are still sixteen
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cases that are outstanding, including the Trump immunity case, and
what's going to end up happening with the jan sixth cases,
the Fisher case that you've heard us talk about a
lot with Julie Kelly in terms of whether or not
that those charges under Sarvaine's Oxley of basically messing up
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a proceeding are going to be allowed to proceed. So
all of that still to come. And we're sitting six
days away from the big debate on June twenty seventh
in Atlanta on CNN, no crowds, President, but Joe Biden
has to stand for ninety minutes, and Joe Biden has
now gone to camp. David basically ended everything on his
(01:52):
schedule to prepare for a ninety minute debate that is
already being called essentially his camp in that if he
does poorly in this, the race is effectively over. I've
got a lot of thoughts on that, as you can
well imagine. We'll talk about that a little bit maybe
in the second hour. Of course, we will take your
calls on a Friday as we often do eight hundred
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and two two eight A two, and Kelly Leffler, former
Senator from Georgia, is going to be with us in
the final hour of the program. She's doing great work
to help make sure that Georgia turns back read with
her advocacy group down there. We will discuss many different
issues with her in the third hour of the program.
But she's the only guest right now scheduled to be
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with us. So let's dive in because I think there
are a couple of stories that are not getting the
amount of attention that they should have that I want
to discuss with all of you. First, you probably have
heard that Alvin Bragg, who charged Donald Trump with thirty
four felonies, who elevated misdemeanors too felonies at a time
when he almost always is lowering felonies to misdemeanors, has
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all of the charges against the Columbia University protesters who
took over campus buildings clearly violated laws on trespassing. There
are arguable assaults that were created and involved in the
takeover of those buildings.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But let's listen.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I believe it has cut for to a discussion about
the charges all being dropped there here.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It is now that the Manhattan.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
District Attorney's office has dropped criminal charges against dozens of
anti Israel protesters who barricaded themselves in buildings at Columbia
University back in April without even a slap on the wrist,
and now there's outrage over this move and it is
growing fast. Nate Floy is live with the latest on
this story for US Nate.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Hey, Jackie.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
So, the cases of thirty one Columbia Universities students and
staff members arrested at Hamilton Hall are now dismissed. Prosecutors
say there is insufficient evidence to prove the defendants caused
damage or injured anybody because of a lack of sec
creity camera footage and the fact that protesters wore face masks.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
This is bonkers. I would imagine New York City Mayor
Eric Adams is furious about this. This is not a
difficult case to actually prosecute. They arrested the protesters illegally
trespassing in the building after they had taken control of
the building, after they had chained the doors, and refuse
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to leave. This is one of the easiest cases imaginable.
But the charges are being dropped and at the same
time they have done everything they can. I believe they're
going to try to put Trump in prison. On July
eighth when he shows up for sentencing. I expect that
Alvin Bragg will request prison time for Trump. That remains
to be seen. The reports have been that the district attorney,
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Alvin Bragg will actually share his impressions of what the
punishment should be in court filings, although I would suspect
those will leak immediately in the New York Time, the
Washington Post, probably the New York Times will break that
story before the court filings have hardly even hit the docket.
So I want to bring this up because there are
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two instances of late that have not received substantial amounts
of attention that I believe should have, of clear crimes
being committed by Democrats where absolutely nothing has happened to them.
Now there are lots of examples of this. Certainly we
could go in and talk about doctor Fauci and all
the lies that he's told. Hunter Biden finally getting prosecuted,
(05:33):
convicted in Delaware soon to be convicted, I believe, based
on the fact that he clearly didn't pay millions of
dollars in taxes in California when that case is scheduled
to go to trial in September. But two cases that
I haven't heard very many people talk about and I
want to hit you with the details on them here.
Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, is
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refusing to turn over audio recordings of President Biden being
questioned by Robert Herr, the special counsel. You'll recall that
Joe Biden came out and claimed that he was misquoted,
that he was asked all sorts of questions that he
believed were outside the pale of the investigation, claiming you
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remember in a fiery press conference back in I believe
February that his own son's death bow had been brought up,
and the fact that he couldn't remember when that happened,
or that he got dates confused, was a sign of
somehow this being an unfair investigation. And remember the ultimate
(06:41):
decision of Robert Herr was that Joe Biden was a
well meaning elderly man who didn't have the mental faculties
to be charged with crimes that he actually committed. Well,
I believe it's incredibly important, particularly because the Biden White
House is now claiming that videos showing clear cognitive and
physical decline of Joe Biden are cheap fakes. I believe
(07:04):
that all of us should be able to hear Joe
Biden answer the questions of Robert Her. There are audio
files as we are soon to enter presidential voting time.
Don't you believe that, given the fact that Joe Biden
doesn't have very many interviews that he gives period, we
should be able to hear Biden answering questions of Robert
Her and make our own determination about how he sounds,
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either positive or negative. Is this a man that we
believe can get on the phone with Ukraine, with Russia,
with China and try to deal with major geopolitical issues
that are unspooling on a day to day basis. Or
is his mental and physical cognition a severe issue?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
To me?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
This is not a remotely difficult question. And the Republicans
in Congress voted and said, we believe that this tape
should be released. Merrick Garland said no, They held him
in contempt because he's refusing to comply with our request
from Congress. And Merrick Garland's own Department of Justice said, hey,
guess what, this is not a violation of the law.
(08:09):
We can do whatever we want here. So Merrick Garland
clear contempt of Congress, no prosecution at all. He's above
the law, which Joe Biden, of course claims no one is. Meanwhile,
Steve Bannon is having to appeal to the Supreme Court
because otherwise he's going to have to begin a four
month jail sentence on July first. That's a pretty direct comparison.
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Bannon defies Congress's orders and he's put in prison for
four months. Merrick Garland defies Congressional request that he merely
released the actual audio files of Joe Biden's investigation. That
hearing that questioning of Robert Hrr and the Department of
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Justice says, hey, Merrick Garland doesn't have any criminal culpability
at all. He can just thumb his nose at Congress.
That's pretty significant. Second one, and I think this is
massive and it's important to understand where we are when
it comes to the justice system. No charges at all
are being brought in this classified document case which Robert
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Hurr was investigating against Joe Biden, even though they found
that he wilfully retained classified documents, remember classified documents that
likely originated from his days in the Senate or potentially
when he was Vice president, that he kept in files
beside his corvette and that he bragged about finding on
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audio to his ghostwriter of his book. The ghostwriter, as
soon as this classified document investigation began, tried to delete
all of the audio files of his interviews with Joe Biden.
They know this, They uncovered that he had done it.
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Nothing has happened to.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Him at all.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Repeat this because I think this is actually a situation
where Republicans are dropping the ball in Congress. This is
not a very complicated case. The ghostwriter of Joe Biden's autobiography,
Remember these guys don't actually write their own autobiographies. The
ghostwriter had on tape Joe Biden bragging about retrieving classified
(10:24):
documents that he shared with his ghostwriter. Who knows what
else Joe Biden was saying on those audio tapes. As
soon as the Robert Hurr investigation began, the ghostwriter of
this book tried to delete all of the audio files
that he had of Joe Biden. That's clear destruction of evidence.
(10:45):
Why has he not been this ghostwriter hauled directly in
front of Congress and made to answer questions under oath.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But on a larger scale, how in the world have.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
No charges been brought against him, to say nothing of
Joe Biden, but at least he has presidential immunity because
he's currently in office, and there's a Department of Justice
idea that you can't be prosecuted. But we know that
Joe Biden willfully retained classified documents, bragged about having them
on audio, and that his ghostwriter then tried to delete
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all of the files as soon as he knew this
investigation began.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
How many of you even know that.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
One of the big challenges that frustrates me in general
is every day there is a fire hose worth of
stories that are spraying out in every direction. And one
of the big problems that we have is the Republican
Party doesn't do a good job figuring out what matters
and what needs to be focused on. I mean, honestly,
(11:49):
how many of you even knew that ghostwriter story? How
many of you knew that Joe Biden is on tape
bragging about having classified documents to his ghostwriter, and that
the ghostwriter tried to destroy.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
All of these files.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
That is very clear evidence destruction of evidence. It's an
easy case to bring in a federal investigation, Yet nothing
has happened. To this ghostwriter, and for the most part,
nobody has talked about it at all.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Why is this not a major point of discussion.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Why is this guy, this ghostwriter not hauled immediately before
Congress and made to answer questions? And how in the
world can you justify him not being charged with crimes.
He's not president, he doesn't have presidential immunity. These conversations
that he tried to destroy happened back when Biden was
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after Biden was vice president, not when he was president.
There's no claim that these are somehow protected conversations. However,
Republicans dropped the ball on this. And what might that
ghostwriter say if he was actually facing criminal charges, and
as should be the case, people were trying to put
him in prison, might he turn on Joe Biden and
(13:05):
actually share a lot more incriminating evidence. This is just
no brainer, basic blocking and tackling not being executed. It's
an easy story for everyone out there to understand. Why
is the Republican party not focusing on this story? Biden
on audio bragging about having classified documents that he had
(13:28):
no business being able to retain, and his ghostwriter who
told him to suddenly destroy all that evidence that's a
pretty big decision for a ghostwriter to make. That he
goes into a computer and starts trying to destroy all
the files of all of his investigations. You don't think
somebody told him.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
How do we not have this guy under oath? How
is he not being charged? I want to talk about
this more, but I think it's very instructive. As Alvin
Bragg continues to drop charges against everybody arrested in Colombia,
as Merrick Garland Thumb said, knows that Congressional demands that
he released the actual audio files of Biden's Robert Her investigation,
and as the ghost writer here knowingly destroying evidence to
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try to protect Joe Biden. How is this not a
bigger story? Why is he not under oath? How is
he avoided being charged? We'll talk about all that more.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I mentioned
that Biden is going to be at Camp David for
a week, and also that I spent yesterday at the
liv Nashville Pro Am played with a lot of pro
golfers that are out there. Bryson Dischambau, for those of
you who are golfers, just just won the US Open.
(15:44):
I am not a great golfer. I played, by the
way with Martin Kimer, who was the number one golfer
in the world, won a couple of golf events. Absolutely
crushes the ball. But I was watching a video of
Biden walking off of Air Force one down. They actually
(16:04):
used the long staircase straight across the tarmac to the
helicopter that was gonna take him to Camp David. And remember,
he's gonna spend a week there, and we're gonna talk
about the debate being six days from now. But I also,
right before then, had shared a video of me missing
a short putt and absolutely devastating response that I'm gonna
(16:26):
be honest with you, I still haven't recovered from one
of you said that I putt like Joe Biden walks.
And I'm not sure that anyone has ever been more
devastating when describing my golf game than saying that I
putt like Joe Biden walks. Mike Maxwell, I want to
(16:47):
give him credit for it. You put like bo Biden walks.
Now if you're a golfer, I would suggest you put
that one in your back pocket for when one of
your buddies misses a putt that he should make. Maybe
your buddy is Rory McElroy and it cost him the
US Open. But to describe someone who does something poorly
as being worse than Biden walks is a devastating back
(17:11):
pocket insult for all of you to save. So Mike,
there you go. You've absolutely eviscerated my golf game. And
I had a great time. Met a lot of listeners,
as we always do, and a lot of the golfers
are big fans of this show and also out probably
not a huge surprise for you that many of them
would also be big Trump supporters, but I did think
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that was someone interesting talking to some of those guys
around the clubhouse yesterday. Now, when we come back, I
want to take some of your call because I want
to see if as many of you are stunned by
the fact that it hasn't been a bigger story that
the actual ghost writer for Joe Biden has Biden on
tape bragging about having classified documents and that he tried
to destroy all that evidence, and Republicans have not really
(17:55):
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a huge failure. We'll also talk about the financial situation
as Trump now has tons of money rolling in and
why I think that implicates whether or not he might
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us as we are rolling through the Friday edition of
the program talking about the fact that we clearly have
(19:06):
a two tiered system of justice. Some of you out
there say, Okay, that's true, what are we going to
do about it? I think that's a very valid response.
I think that's probably the number one response that is
out there. And I've called pretty aggressively for red state
DA's and red state attorney generals to turn the tables
and start to file charges against Democrats, because I think
(19:30):
you have to put the fear in them that the
precedents they've set, as it pertains to Republicans will be
applied even lead to them as well. That's the only way,
and that disappoints me as a lawyer because I'm old
school in the sense that I want to aspire to
the standards of Lady Justice. And I've talked with you
guys quite a lot about Lady Justice. She's blind for
(19:53):
a reason. If you have seen the traditional scales of justice,
the aspiration is is to treat everyone equal, no matter
what they look like. And that's why Lady Justice is blind,
because the idea that your identity should implicate whether you're
found guilty or innocent, or whether you're even charged with
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a crime, should not come into play. And I'll be
the first to tell you that America has often failed
to live up to that aspiration, which is why my
most recent book I made the argument that we have
come full circle in the world of justice where it
used to be for those of you who grew up
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and read probably the most famous American novel of the
twentieth century, I would wager to Kill a Mockingbird. Certainly
I would bet the most read just about book of
the American twentieth century work of fiction. Atticus Finch is
the heroic lawyer, and I believe Makeum Alabama if I'm
(20:56):
remembering the specific scout his daughter coming of age, Jim,
her brother. He is defending Tom Robinson, who is a
black man accused of sexually assaulting raping a white woman,
and the evidence clearly demonstrates that Tom Robinson didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But Mayella Eule.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
And some of you, by the way, probably cheated and
wanted to watch the Gregory Peck movie because you should
have read the book, but you watched the movie instead,
So you're seeing this in the context of the movie
as opposed to the book. I'm on to you, you
can come clean now, go back and read the book now.
But the important thing is that book published in nineteen
sixty about a nineteen thirties crime in the American South
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where justice was not rendered because of the identity of
the alleged criminal. What we now have created, crazily is
a world where your political identity and your gender and
racial identity impacts whether or not you get charged with
the crime and how you're treated. And I was thinking
(22:04):
about this recently. I don't know that we have discussed it,
but I got an email notification recently Nashville, my hometown,
in a part of Nashville, they're going to paint the
rainbow for Pride Month on the road, and they're going
to have a gay Pride insignia in some way on
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the road, as many different cities across the country now have.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
And what's wild.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Is, if you want to talk about disparate notions of justice,
have you seen that they are prosecuting people for putting
tire marks on painted roadways as hate crimes. I'm sided, like,
this is crazy to me. First of all, I'm not
in favor. Let me just put it on the record.
(22:50):
I'm not in favor in general of painting roadways with
political messages of any sort. I don't think that's a
good idea. It seems like a waste of funds. It
seems like something that you have to constantly go back
and adjust. But if you do it on a public
(23:12):
roadway and someone decides that they want to send the
message that they disagree with whatever is on the public roadway,
how is that a hate crime? And I'm gonna be
honest with you, I would be content neutral on this application.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It wouldn't make me happy if.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
For July fourth, they decided we're going to paint the
American flag on roadways everywhere, and somebody who was upset
with America decided that they wanted to disrespect the American
flag painted on the roadway by putting skin marks on them, by.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Burning out burning rubber on it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I wouldn't agree with that decision, but I would say
they should be able to do that zooming. They're not
violating some sort of motor ordinance, and it certainly shouldn't
be a hate crime. If you paint a roadway, it
seems to me you're encouraging people to give you their
(24:14):
opinion of the road if it's just black asphalt. I
don't think most people really think about the road as
having a political opinion.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't hear anybody trying. Am I crazy on this?
Or is the idea that we're.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Going to paint roads with political messages not bonkers. Now,
if you decide you own a business and you have
a parking lot and you want to paint your entire
parking lot in the Pride flag or the American flag,
or the supporting police flag, the blue flag, all of
(24:52):
that would be fine to me. And you could potentially
charge somebody if you own the physical parking lot with
a crime for trespassing into facing your property. That would
be fine. But on a public roadway that all of
us pay for, I just want them to fix the potholes.
I have to dodge potholes everywhere I drive in Nashville.
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Why are they deciding that they need to put a
Pride flag on a public roadway. You want to hang
a Pride flag outside of your business, you want to
hang an American flu, whatever you want to do, go
for it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's capitalism.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
But how have we set the precedent that there's going
to be a greater punishment for someone for deciding that
they want to burn out on a Pride flag on
a public roadway than there is for someone at Columbia University,
who is making the decision that they're going to take
(25:51):
over a campus building. If you were thinking to yourself,
just in the larger context, what's some greater threat to
the public a guy in.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
A car burning rubber on a.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Pride flag or thirty some odd protesters taking over a
campus building and refusing to come out and using chains
to lock the doors. If you were in charge of
justice and you had to decide which of those two
guys should face the most severe punishment, wouldn't you choose
(26:31):
for the person who locked themselves inside of a building
to face a more severe punishment than the guy on
the public road who decided to burn out on a
Pride flag. I don't know how we have reached a
place where defacing a Pride mural is considered a hate
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crime when it's on a public street. And again, I
don't agree with the idea of painting public streets with
any slogans or do they do Black Lives Matter plaza
outside of Lafayette Park.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I think that was stupid to do.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't think public roads should make and have political
slogans on them of any degree. But think about the
two tiered aspect of justice that we have created where
Democrats try to put you in prison for the rest
of your life if you upset them, and Republicans for
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the most part, do absolutely nothing to democrats. I'm in
favor of Lady Justice being blind, that is the aspirational goal.
But if Lady Justice is clearly peeking, if you've basically
turned the blindfold and ripped it off and you're throwing
the book at Republicans or conservatives, I'm sorry you have
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to do the same thing to democrats because that's how
you actually even the scales. And I was seeing the
story with what they're doing to people who are burning
rubber on Pride flags on public streets. They have surveillance
cameras set up to try to catch people not behaving
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respectfully enough when it comes to driving over the flag
on the road. They are setting traps like a speed trap.
It's a hate crime trap. They're trying to catch people
not respecting the road enough that they have painted, and
people are just saying this is totally fine. By and large,
(28:38):
people aren't asking the question, which to me is very basic,
why do we have to paint roads? Can we fix potholes?
I live in Nashville. They're potholes everywhere. At a cold winter,
they still haven't fixed them all. My priority, call me crazy,
of any road is make me able to drive on
it without exploding my tires, without having to basically be
(29:04):
off road trying to avoid hitting big potholes. And it
seems to me that Democrats are like, no, no, no, we
got to make sure that we have the gay pride
flag on the road, and if you don't drive over
it respectfully enough, we're going to try to put you
in prison. It seems to me you would have a
First Amendment argument again, if you want to argue that
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somebody violated the law because they burned rubber because they
drove too fast, I understand that on some level, but
that's not what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
They're trying to do hate crimes. Now.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
For driving over gay pride flags, you create the problem
that is make it impossible basically to not drive over
the flag and then try to punish to the full
extent of the wall. I haven't heard anybody asking why
are we painting, but the second part, why are we
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painting the roads? Second part, why in.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
The world, Why in the world is this happening?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And almost no one is speaking out about it at all.
It's crazy, and I would stand on principle on this,
even if it's for July fourth, we painted the American
flag on a road. If somebody decided that they wanted
to disrespect the American flag, I wouldn't agree with it,
but I certainly wouldn't agree with trying to put them
(30:26):
in prison. I just there are so many crazy things
that happen every day that I think sometimes we aren't
paying attention to how crazy they are and to establishing
what is considered appropriate and inappropriate. And they set traps
and then they spring them, and a lot of people
(30:47):
don't even realize what's going on. I want to tell you,
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Speaker 1 (32:39):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton show. A lot
of you weighing in a variety of different topics that
we've had so far against a couple of your calls
and layout where we're headed. But a good question from Damon,
did the ghost writer succeed in destroying the audio tapes?
How much of the evidence was destroyed, how much survived
the destruction? Some of us out here would like to know. Hey, Damon,
(33:02):
I'm with you. We do not know all of the
details publicly about what exactly has happened with Joe Biden's
ghostwriter and the tapes that he tried to destroy. I
believe he claimed that he retained the transcripts. Very interesting
decision there, Right, There is a legal canon essentially that
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says in cases that if it's proven that you destroyed evidence,
you can draw an inference that the evidence would not
have been helpful to the individual that destroyed it. Pretty basic, right,
If you have a gun that you committed a crime
with and you throw it into a lake, and there's
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video of you throwing that gun into the lake, and
for some reason they can't find it or you throw
it into the ocean. It's reasonable to presume that you
didn't want that gun found because it might be a
negative for you.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
That's not crazy at.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
All, and so alarm bell should immediately set off in
your head when you hear that Joe Biden's ghostwriter tried
to destroy all of the audio recordings of Joe Biden
the minute that the investigation into the classified documents that
Biden retained began. And this to me, for Judge Eileen
(34:26):
Cannon in South Florida, who has the classified documents case
against Trump, all of this evidence to me is quite
clear that all the classified documents cases should be dropped.
I think Trump's going to win in November in this
case will basically vanish. And I think She's done a
good job dragging her feet on this process and actually
(34:47):
holding Jack Smith accountable for everything that has been going on.
But this is crazy that we would ever have reached
the point where Biden is legitimately destroying evidence and there's
audio of him bragging about having classified documents when he
(35:07):
had no presidential privilege at all, and they say that
his brain doesn't work well enough for him to be
charged with a crime. Meanwhile, he's trying to run for reelection,
arguing that his brain is working so well that he
should be trusted in, trusted with the biggest and most
important job in America for the next four years. That
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to me all feels like a major point of the
emphasis that should become a big Republican talking point that's
being totally missed right now.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Joe in Colorado, what you got.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Whether or not the ghost Rada had a clearance.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Security clearer military.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
For twenty years, and I held a top secret clearance,
and we ever gave all that information out with the
in Fort Leavenworth campus.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yes, thank you for the culture. It's a great question.
Buck has talked about this when he was at the CIA.
If he had done what Joe Biden did, Buck says
he would be lucky to be a trying to avoid
prison time potentially years in prison, and to brag about
finding the classified documents on tape to your ghost writer
(36:21):
makes it quite clear that you willfully retain that information. Now,
the next step, of course, is why do you think
that some of them might have involved Ukraine, might have
involved Russia, might have involved China, and in some way
aided and abetted Hunter Biden and being able to argue
that he deserved tens of millions of dollars from foreign
interest I don't think that's a crazy connection to make.
(36:43):
We'll talk about that and more rolling through the Friday edition.
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