July 12, 2024 • 36 mins
Biden confuses Zelensky and Putin, but it looks like he's staying in. Democrat donors hold back money from Biden. Biden's massive spending in battleground states hasn't helped him. Rachel Maddow responds to Biden press conference with ridiculous praise. Trump's VP choice: JD Vance takes commanding lead in betting markets. C&B take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in outnumber two Klay Travis buck Sexton show going
to take some of your calls in this hour eight
hundred two A two two eight A two. You can
react to our discussion with past and potential future President
Trump will play that again for you in the third
hour of the program. Lots of reaction pouring in already.
If you want to weigh in on what you heard
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in the first hour, you are.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome to do so now. Eight hundred and two A
two two eight eight two.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Let's react here as well to what we saw from
Joe Biden. The drumbeat of negativity has continued. Biden, even
best case scenario did not alleviate the concerns of the
people who have become convinced that he needs to step down.
There are over twenty now Congress members who Democrats who
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have said Biden needs to step down, he should not
be the nominee. And there were a couple of verbal
gaffes that continue to occur that were incredibly representative of
his conversation. You heard Trump refer to it earlier with
us in the interview, but I want to play it
for you here. Biden, when he was introducing Zolensky called
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him Putin instead. This is not a cheap fake. This
is what happened at the NATO event yesterday in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Listen, and now I want to hand it over to
the President of Ukraine, who has as much courage as
he has determination. Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin, President Putin,
You've got big President Pusen, President Lensky. I'm so focused
on beating Putin. We gotta worry about it anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You are all all right like this, like, ladies and gentlemen,
I just want to produce you the Prime Minister of
Great Britain, Adolf Hitler.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Is I just can you imagine being the Biden advisors
when that happened.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But they're just.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Everything is going wrong for them. And then the one
guy probably that you couldn't say the name of instead
and look if this were a guy who was in
normal control of his faculties. To me, this is representative
of the whole that Democrats find themselves in every single time.
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Now Biden has a slip up, and there are going
to be a lot of them. It is going to
become a major story. And it is not uncommon to
mix up names and things like that. But this is
not going away, Buck, You're shaking it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I see. If you think they're just going to pretend
that this is not a real thing, now I see it.
I think. I think the days of the New York
Times being really agitated about Biden's mental state and the
gaffes and everything, I think that they are rapidly disappearing.
I think that you don't have many of them left.
And once it becomes clear that he is the guy
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h then they're gonna do what they've always done, and
they're going to start to try slyly to suggest that
Biden's actually beating expectations lately and he's had a little
more pep in his step and a threat to democracy
has You know, they'll say whatever, Clay, They will say anything.
That's why I keep pointing out that they lied as
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much as they did about Biden's cognition up to this
point is all the evidence you need that they'll say
anything that they think will be effective going into the election.
I mean, it's really the Hunter Biden laptop principle. Of
course that was real, but they got people to say
it was fake because the lie was useful at the time.
So whatever. The most useful lie is about Biden, assuming
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he stays atop the ticket, which I think he will. Obviously,
I've been saying for a long time. That's what I
think you're you're likely to see here. But it was
particularly funny, man. I meant to say, like, if you
were introducing Winston Churchill and then you introduced ADDLF Hiller,
or you know, if you were introducing I don't know,
pick two implacable enemies from the not just the past,
but from the president. Right, if you're inducing George Bush
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and you're like, and here's the President of United States,
Saddam Hussein, Like that's a big one. That's a big whiff.
It's not like it was, you know, the prime minister
or the president of France or something. So it just
goes to show, well, what we already know, which is
that obviously he's lost many many steps. But the other
part of this, and even I saw Ezra Kleine, you
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don't hear a lot about that guy anymore. He was
kind of the Democrat darling of the Obama years. But
he I think he still writes to Washington Post or something.
He was saying. The real challenge here is that Biden
has one hundred percent name It's funny because it sounds
like he listens to to us. Biden has one hundred
percent name ID. He is the president, and all the
alternatives really line up, including Kamala, line up about the
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same or worse. So if all the polls show about
the same or worse, you're gonna take that. And you
definitely don't have universal name ID with some of the
other candidates that could step in the mix. I think
that's kind of Biden's It's kind of his Alamo, right.
I mean, obviously the Alamo didn't work. You know, the
bad guys won that one, But you know what I mean. Yeah, Look,
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there's a story up.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
The drum beat is continuing, so I think that Look,
if you look right now, the top story on the
New York Times is, and this may be pretty significant,
donors said to freeze roughly ninety million dollars while Biden
stays in the race. The decision to withhold the money
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one of the most concrete examples of the fallout from
President Biden's poor debate performance at the end of June,
and then the next second story is lingering worries about
President Biden's age could make blue states more competitive, party
operatives believe. So what we're seeing is the drumbeat of
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negativity about Biden is not going away.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I do think.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I think if these reports about donors pulling their dollars
is true, that becomes pretty consequential because one of the
big storylines of the twenty twenty four race so far
is the Trump team has not really begun to deploy
their bucket fulls of cash, their wheelbarrows of cash that
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they have raised since the charges and the conviction with
Alvin Bragg. What would make me nervous if I were
looking at these Biden poll numbers is they've been spending
tens of millions of dollars in all these battleground states
and buy in laars. They've been slipping and losing ground.
What happens if Trump comes in and spends that money
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efficiently and effectively in some of these battlegrounds. Because as
you've said, and I think most people would agree with this,
the race I think is going to basically boil down
to Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Seems to reflect that Nevada, Arizona,
and Georgia are gone, and that North Carolina despite their
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arguments to the contrary is going to be really hard
to spin into a positive. If that's correct, then Biden's
only method of winning this race is sweeping those big
ten states, and they're going to have to put a
billion dollars maybe into those states. But now Trump's going
to have the resources to fight back against it. So
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that's where we are less than four months out.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I also think that the influence on public thinking of
going negative on Trump, I feel like they've hit what
is it? Is it the terminal velocity? Isn't that when
you've reached the absolute fastest speed you can when you
jump out of a plane.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It was a movie the nineties. I don't think it's
a very good one. I think they reached terminal velocity
of negative on Trump a while ago, probably when they
were doing in advance of the mid terms, the January
sixth hearings and all that sort of stuff. So I
do think that they have numbed the public to the
Trump is a threat to democracy, Trump is hitler stuff.
(08:14):
I think that they've reached a point now where you
can't you can't shock anybody who even has a television
about Trump, because they've said so much about Trump already
that there's nothing, there's nowhere else to go, you know.
And I think that their Trump hatred peaked early, uh
or their Trump opo peaked early, and so I don't
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know how effectively they'll be able to deploy those dollars,
do you know what I mean? That's the h I
agree with you completely, and I mean they haven't even
taken into account Trump's ability to use all this stuff
of Biden should drop out. All these New York Times
headlines is perfect opo for Trump. I mean, he's gonna
be able to run ads as soon as we get
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Biden one hundred one hundred percent locked in, right, He's
gonna be able to run ads. Like the biggest newspaper
in the country for libs. I think it might even
be the biggest newspaper in the country says that this
guy shouldn't even be running. How do you get around that?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Twice two different editorials has said he has to drop out. No,
I mean, it's it's pretty fascinating. And to your point,
the law of diminishing returns on anti Trump advertising has
certainly been reached, I believe, and there's evidence of that
in other markets. Remember, I think the guy's name was
Jamie Harrison, raised like one hundred million dollars in South
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Carolina to run against Lindsey Graham and still lost by
over ten points. He bought every ad you could possibly buy.
He bought every television advertisement. At some point, there is
nothing else to draw. What's the great analogies like trying
to draw blood from a rock. There's nothing else there,
and so I think that we have likely reached that
(09:55):
era for the Biden team. I think that's one reason
they're panicking behind the scene. And again in theory, Trump
may have more money to spend than Biden down the
stretch run of this race now, and if that's true,
I would think that the ability to reach new Trump
voters has not necessarily occurred on the same level because
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they haven't been spending tens of millions of dollars to
try to prop up the numbers in all of these
swing states over the past several months like they've been
trying to do with Biden. I think that's a big
reason why a lot of these congressional members and a
lot of these Senate candidates are coming out and saying
Biden needs to leave, because they're seeing the dollars dry up,
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and they're recognizing that basically Biden has shot his shot
already and he doesn't have a lot of ammunition left
in order to really be able to take this battle
to Trump. That's kind of my assessment of where we
would be right now, based on looking at all these
numbers and how the money is being spent.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I think that's probably the it's likely to go. We
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Speaker 2 (12:40):
So, how did the Democrat apparatus respond to the Biden
press conferenceasor by the way it ate up, like my
whole evening. I'm just gonna say it, okay, but you know,
I was supposed to be what was it, six thirty,
and then they delayed it to seven, and then they
would half an hour. And I also think that part
of it was he had to get to he had
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to do effectively an hour, because then that just becomes
its own talking point of like he did an hour
long press conference. Joe Biden just fine, now you are
hearing from There are still some skeptics out there. There
are still people that recognize that Joe Biden's brain doesn't
work very well. But I mean, look, he was never
a smart guy either. That's you know, He's always been
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a grinning, glad handing, slimy, disingenuous does whatever the Democrat
Party wants him to do and that benefits him. Guy
like he's not. He's never been some towering intellect. But anyway, obviously,
now the neurons aren't firing the way they're supposed to.
But here is, for example, somebody who has a substantially
(13:45):
higher IQ. Rachel Maddow, who I want you to hear.
Clay and I were just talking about it a second ago.
I want you all to hear how Madow discussed Biden's
press conference play.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
This is cut tense, just fundamentally right on foreign policy
in the way that he talks about it. And again
your mileage may vary, that is how I feel about
the way he talks about our relationship with our allies
and our relationship with NATO. You can hear his command
of the issues, particularly in his asides, like mentioning as
an offhand way that it was Turkey really that needed
really to be talked into, an expansion of NATO that
(14:19):
included Finlin and Sweden, talking about the numbers of Russian
troop losses in Ukraine, talking about the fact that he
turned in his notes after he spoke privately with President
She alluding to the fact that Trump had all those
weird meetings with the Russians and Putin in which he
had no note taker present. I mean, it's even in
the little as signs where it just shows you he
is a master of the foreign policy field and has
been four decades in his career in the Senate, the
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vice president, and the presidency, a.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Master of the foreign policy field. Clay, You're going to
start to hear more of this Joe Biden not sharp
as attack, but a master of the foreign policy field.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You know, I was watching the press comm diference, and
I'm not surprised that that's the Rachel Maddow take, because
now they're starting to recognize that Biden may well refuse
to step down, and so now they're going to have
to build him back up after tearing him down. I
think you'll start to see that a lot at MSNBC
and CNN if he continues to stay in this race.
(15:19):
I was actually more disappointed in the media than I
was in Biden, by which I mean, we know what
Joe Biden is. He's gonna raise his voice randomly, he's
gonna whisper creepily. He's gonna say anyway after giving some
sort of meandering response, and he's gonna be coughing, and
(15:40):
he is going to sound like a guy not that
in control of his mental and physical faculties. He's gonna
flip flop names. All those things we saw that we
expected to see it. The media was so bad, and
I know that they gave a list, and it should
be a bigger storyline that Biden walks out there with
a list of names that he has been provided from
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all the people that he's going to call on. That's
an embarrassment to the media. You shouldn't allow that to happen.
And the way that they questioned him, several of the
questions to me seem designed to filibuster. One of the
questions was, I mean, first of all, anybody asking about NATO.
I understand it was a NATO related event. No one
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in America cares about Joe Biden's opinion on NATO right now.
He's talked about it adam finitum. Nothing has changed. All
we care about is his mental and physical capacity as
it relates to domestic policy. And I bet forty to
fifty percent of the questions dealt with foreign affairs that
had nothing to do with what most Americans care about
right now. And that's kind of an IQ test for
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the media, right not what you want to ask about.
What does the American public care about, because in theory,
you are the stewards of the American public there to
ask questions that they cannot ask. Like with Trump, I
try to think when we talk to him, if I
was it sitting here on this radio show, what would
I want to hear if I were riding around in
(17:04):
my car right now, what would I want to hear
if I'm listening on podcasts, Because we're not just focused
on ourselves in an interview like that, it's an opportunity
for them to talk to everyone.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And if we miss something that's really good or that
should have absolutely been asked, we're going to hear from
all of you about it. So we know that too, right,
if we don't ask the question that needed to be asked,
we're going to hear that we missed, So we try
to make sure that we avoid that one. That's why
that anticipation of what should be or is necessary for
the asking. And some fun stuff obviously too, especially with Trump.
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He's so fun to talk to. I mean, we only
hung out with him for a little bit this morning,
but you know, you could sit down with that guy
for hours.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
He's just he's quite engaging, super likable. We'll talk about that.
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Speaker 2 (18:57):
Buck, what did you think of?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And for those of you who did not hear it,
maybe you're just starting off your day with us Trump
was with us for hour one on the program. We're
going to replay that on our three. So if you're
in your car, you have a buddy or somebody that
you think would have enjoyed listening to it. Obviously you
can go podcasts, but I know a lot of people
out there they don't want to download podcasts. You're not
(19:19):
necessarily wanting to listen to something off your phone. Trump
will be we'll replay it an hour three. But we
asked him about VP and he specifically mentioned four names,
Marco Rubio, Doug Burgum, Tim Scott, and JD.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Not a huge surprise. There have been reports out there
that Rubio, Burgham and Vance might be the final three.
He said he's got four or five names and he
has not made a choice yet.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So two parts. Do you think that he has made
a choice.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
He told us that he would like to announce it
next week at the RNC. That obviously would create a
massive amount of buzz. Do you think the selection will
be one of those four names or do you think
Trump is keeping one name in his back pocket that's
in play that could be played as a surprise A
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Glenn Youngkin for instance. Vivey Ramaswami at Tulsa Gabbard, any
chance any of those are still in play, how would
you assess the beepstakes?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You know, with Trump, you never know, because I think
he is going to make sure that he plays this
for maximum effect. And I really did get the sense
from the conversation with him today that he has not
made a decision. I think that his decision could change,
you know, a few times, even between now and when
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it actually comes out. And it's interesting to me because
I think that the there's more of a focus on
whether this is going to matter for his election effort
then there is on I think, at least from from
the media perspective, what this means for the Republican Party
going forward. And I actually think the latter, the latter
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thing is the bigger thing, that this vice president is
less an adornment for the current ticket to help Trump.
This is a Trump election, right. I mean, there's no
getting around the fact that on the Republican side, it's
Trump's party and he is not just at the top
of the ticket. He is the ticket. I don't think anyone,
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you know, Pence people thought maybe gave a little more
comfort to some of the evangelicals. A lot of Trump's
most fervent supporters are the evangelical community. So I don't
know if Pence was really necessary, but this time around,
everyone's going to talk about it as part of this
election cycle first and foremost, and I think the more
important thing is if you pick, depending on who the
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candidate is, if you pick somebody like a Evans or Rubio,
I don't know. Maybe Doug Bergen wants the big job
himself at some point in the future. This is big
for that, more so in my mind even than how
it will affect now and election. Dad, This is a
Biden Trump election.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
This is a Trump Biden election. However you want to
phrase it. The vice presidents are going to be distant
and very second in mind as this goes forward. We've
talked a lot about Buck Island and yeah, a lot
of emails, a lot of people inquiring about I don't know,
some of you are little late, a little late to
Buck Island. Well, this is interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You on your bet for VP, maybe in stronger ground
than even on whether Biden's going to stay in because
the gambling markets have it still sixty percent that Biden's
going to get forced out, but jd vance has now
taken a commanding lead as the VP pick. He is
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up to nearly even money, that is, you can basically
get for those of you who are gamblers, the odds
are such that it's like jd Vance or the field.
That means that you could choose based on the gambling markets,
somebody else or jd Vance. That's how much of a favorite,
basically even money, he's become. And so you may nail
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that one because to your credit, when you started saying
jd Vance, he was pretty far down the broachart of
potential VP.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
He was like fifth sixth in the UH in the
runnings in terms of the the betting markets and and
the you know that there were a lot of other
people who were ahead of them uh and and ahead
of him. And I, yeah, I may have nailed that one.
I don't know if I nail them both. I don't
know what happens, but it's it's a good day for
buck Island. That's all that I know.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So so this decision, I think also plays in to
your point Buck.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
What for the VP.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
To me, what stands out is if he picks jd
Vance and jd Vans is now the favorite. If you
look at gambling markets in tens of millions of dollars
are being bet on this, so people are putting real
money down. JD vance, to me, becomes a huge favorite
to be if Trump wins to be the nominee in
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twenty eight because he would have access to everyone. I
think JD is only thirty nine years old. Am I
right about that? He would also be the youngest vice
president that we have had in generations, I think, and
he would become a real favorite to be the nominee
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in twenty eight, whereas if you picked somebody like Doug Bergham,
who is one of the other finalists. I don't know
that a lot of people out there are saying, Hey,
Doug Bergham's going to clear the field.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I don't does that make sense to you?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
To me, JD feels more like a deputization of the
future of the Trump movement than some of these other selections.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
If Trump goes for elder State, it's been alongside him
on the ticket. To me, that's just this guy or
Gal is my you know, is my second for my administration.
But it's not supposed to be necessarily an elevation A
little bit like Biden was under Obama for eight years.
But I think, although we all know that went in
a different direction, I think that if it's somebody who's
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the next generation of Republican leadership, that could be a
big deal. But I'll tell you, I still think that
you would probably have a pretty lively primary, oh sir,
after you know, No matter what, I think that the
people will decide. I don't think anyone's going to convince,
you know, Vivek not to run again. He likes, he
likes media, he likes talking. I don't think he's going
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to all of a sudden decide he's not going to
want to be on the debate stage in twenty eight
among others. By the way, there are many and by the.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Way, a lot of people also set out twenty four.
Like I would think DeSantis would run, I would think
young Kid would run. I would think Ted Cruz would run.
There are a lot of people that have been in
the mix that set out for twenty four. Or to
Nicky Haley tossed their names in the ring. I think
we'll have twenty five people announced, but it would make
JD I think the favorite in the early primary.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
One of the funniest things that I've heard a lot.
And does anyone to guess what I was watching this morning?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, starts with the morning ends with a Joe Baby.
I was watching some morning Joe. Carrie's so funny. Now
She just like, I come downstairs. My Crockett coffee is
ready Crocketcoffee dot com. Everybody, My Crockett coffee is ready.
Morning Joe is already on the TV screen for me.
She goes, Okay, honey, I'm like, oh, you're the best wife.
And I was watching it. But you know what they
love to say, well, you know, and they say it
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as though it's just the most obvious thing that they
say it, as though there could be no dispute or
debate about it. They're just like, well, the Democrats have
such a deep bench. We sit there, I'm like, they do.
I mean, let's just take a moment here. I mean,
when you run down, you just rattled off a bunch
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of names on the Republican side who you know, whether
you love him or not, And some of them you
probably do love. But they're very smart, very serious people.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Ted Cruz is a senator. Ted Cruz could also be
a state Attorney General Ted Cruz could also be a
Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Like, you know, he's a serious, smart guy. He could
be successful in many different endeavors.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Glen Glenn Youngkin was the CEO of one of the
biggest and most successful private equity firms in the entire
United States and made hundreds of millions of dollars, didn't
inherit it and made it okay, So you know, these
are serious people. You look on the other side, you
got the fake Native America and Elizabeth Warren without her
fake Native americanness. By the way, he doesn't even have
a legal teaching or Senate career. Just let's be honest
(27:43):
about this. Bernie Sanders, who is like a cartoon character. Okay,
he's like a cartoon character socialist.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
They bring up Gretchen he or Pete just the gay
dude who happened to be mayor of South Bend, Indiana,
and somehow he's now like one of the top contenders
to be resident and he's made.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Transportation Secretary an infamous position now. And then you know,
you look at who else they talk about, Gavin Newsom,
and you see this is Gavin Newsom is the slimiest
politician you could ever find. He's actually kind of like
a young Joe Biden. There's a lot of similarity between
the two of them. And you know, I just think
it's funny because they say, like, oh, we have such
(28:23):
a deep bench, clay Iff. They had such a deep bench,
they wouldn't be in this conundrum.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yes, yeah, And look the people they love. Gretchen Whitmer,
who has an evil, wicked witch of the West. Look
about her. I can't figure out exactly what do you
know what I'm talking about? Every time I see her
on television, I'm like, you look like the person who's
trying to kill snow White. That's ever. Every time I
see Gretchen Whitmer, I'm like, you look like you're gonna
take snow White and try to take her heart. And
(28:51):
then you got Jamie Pritzker, who's a billionaire sky on
I think of the Marriott or Hilton or whatever, but
he weighs like four and fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I don't I really think their bench.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
The problem is that it's all identity politics driven as
opposed to merit driven, and so there are a lot
of people in the Democrat upper echelon that could not
and have not been successful in other facets of life
that are in politics. Joe Biden's a perfect example of this.
We come back, Buck, there's a good audio clip you
know who what people are now saying. We've been saying
(29:28):
this for a couple of years. John Stewart said, Hey,
could Joe Biden do a job at like your local
home depot. Now everybody is saying what we've been saying
for a few years, even in the comedic space where
they're actually just being honest and looking at some of
this and saying, oh, yeah, this guy couldn't do any job,
much less president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We'll play that more for you coming back.
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coming up here in just a few minutes. And we'll
also bring you up to speed on any of the
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Let's see to in Houston, Texas. All in for JD. Vance?
What's going on? Tom?
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Hey, what's up, guys? Megadiddo's I wanted to weigh in.
I wanted to weigh in on JD. Vance. And here's why.
I believe Rubio and Bergham are attached to the hip
with the swamp call Rove in particular, and the fact
I like but you know what, I think Vance would
(33:26):
be a perfect choice for Trump. He had no infectious
connection to He's new to Washington, and I think he'd
make a great candidate down the road. So he gets
my vote. I'm so hoping that he doesn't choose somebody,
you know from the call Rove school of government.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, you don't want to Rhino. I get what you're
putting down. Tom. Thank you for calling in from Houston. Play.
Have you ever read Hillbilly Elogy? Yeah? I did back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I mean that book came out what in like sixteen
if I remember correctly. I mean it's been a long
time now. It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's been been a decade or so, and it's just
funny because I feel like no one ever brings that out.
That was a huge bestseller when he wrote it. It's
really a memoir of growing up in a broken family
in the Ross Belt.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I give credit to jd Unlike almost every other politician,
he actually wrote his book. So again this goes to
people who are capable of doing other things. I think
if you read that book, jad Vance could have continued
to write books like he had an opportunity to do
that decided he wanted to go into politics instead. Melissa
in San Antonio, what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
So we're all in agreement that Biden is declining mentally.
But my problem that I'm having is that the news
cycle continues to hammer this and they're not We're not
focusing on what's going on in our country. Still gas
is going up, Still, inflation is still high.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
You know, these.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Problems still need to be for right up front. Immigration
is still happening, you know. And I'm afraid that by
just covering Biden on those are their topics and people
are gonna forget this and it's too empt.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
You get the concern. I get the concern, pocket, but
thank you for calling Melissa. I think having said all that,
Biden lighting himself on fire and the Democrat Party disunity
the last two weeks have been the best thing that
could happen for Trump. They're going to debate issues at
some point. I think Buck is right, either Biden's going
to be the guy or he's not. The issues are
(35:28):
not on Biden's side. In the meantime, when you're on fire,
you're not helping to make the case that you're solving
issues at all. And so I think that's what's going on.
By the way, one question that's out there to one
other caller, let's see if can get him in quickly.
Here Eric in Tennessee, you got a question about if
a senator is picked as VP.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, I'm curious about who governor of Ohio was going
to replace. JD. Vancewiz.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
If you guys are if he gets a VP, nuts,
are we gonna lose the feet and the Senate to
a Democrat because of this pick?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
No, they will only pick and I think this is important,
Buck Trump will only pick someone that has a Republican
governor to replace a Republican senator. So this would take
out like our buddy Ron Johnson. I would love for
him to be VP. Yeah, but we need him where
he is. That's right, because otherwise he would get replaced
by a Democrat and we would lose a Senate seat.
(36:24):
So the governor has to be a Republican as well
as the senator is.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Ron is standing athwart the damn of communism in Wisconsin.
He's like, hey, guys, not on my watch, So we
got to keep him there. What a good dude.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I'm looking forward to hanging out with him next week
when we're up in Milwaukee. Up next, President of the
United States, Donald Trump hanging with us on claim Buck
Welcome in outnumber two Klay Travis buck Sexton show going
to take some of your calls in this hour eight
hundred two A two two eight A two. You can
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Trump will play that again for you in the third
hour of the program. Lots of reaction pouring in already.
If you want to weigh in on what you heard
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in the first hour, you are.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome to do so now. Eight hundred and two A
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Let's react here as well to what we saw from
Joe Biden. The drumbeat of negativity has continued. Biden, even
best case scenario did not alleviate the concerns of the
people who have become convinced that he needs to step down.
There are over twenty now Congress members who Democrats who
(00:50):
have said Biden needs to step down, he should not
be the nominee. And there were a couple of verbal
gaffes that continue to occur that were incredibly representative of
his conversation. You heard Trump refer to it earlier with
us in the interview, but I want to play it
for you here. Biden, when he was introducing Zolensky called
(01:14):
him Putin instead. This is not a cheap fake. This
is what happened at the NATO event yesterday in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Listen, and now I want to hand it over to
the President of Ukraine, who has as much courage as
he has determination. Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin, President Putin,
You've got big President Pusen, President Lensky. I'm so focused
on beating Putin. We gotta worry about it anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You are all all right like this, like, ladies and gentlemen,
I just want to produce you the Prime Minister of
Great Britain, Adolf Hitler.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Is I just can you imagine being the Biden advisors
when that happened.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But they're just.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Everything is going wrong for them. And then the one
guy probably that you couldn't say the name of instead
and look if this were a guy who was in
normal control of his faculties. To me, this is representative
of the whole that Democrats find themselves in every single time.
(02:21):
Now Biden has a slip up, and there are going
to be a lot of them. It is going to
become a major story. And it is not uncommon to
mix up names and things like that. But this is
not going away, Buck, You're shaking it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I see. If you think they're just going to pretend
that this is not a real thing, now I see it.
I think. I think the days of the New York
Times being really agitated about Biden's mental state and the
gaffes and everything, I think that they are rapidly disappearing.
I think that you don't have many of them left.
And once it becomes clear that he is the guy
(02:58):
h then they're gonna do what they've always done, and
they're going to start to try slyly to suggest that
Biden's actually beating expectations lately and he's had a little
more pep in his step and a threat to democracy
has You know, they'll say whatever, Clay, They will say anything.
That's why I keep pointing out that they lied as
(03:19):
much as they did about Biden's cognition up to this
point is all the evidence you need that they'll say
anything that they think will be effective going into the election.
I mean, it's really the Hunter Biden laptop principle. Of
course that was real, but they got people to say
it was fake because the lie was useful at the time.
So whatever. The most useful lie is about Biden, assuming
(03:40):
he stays atop the ticket, which I think he will. Obviously,
I've been saying for a long time. That's what I
think you're you're likely to see here. But it was
particularly funny, man. I meant to say, like, if you
were introducing Winston Churchill and then you introduced ADDLF Hiller,
or you know, if you were introducing I don't know,
pick two implacable enemies from the not just the past,
but from the president. Right, if you're inducing George Bush
(04:03):
and you're like, and here's the President of United States,
Saddam Hussein, Like that's a big one. That's a big whiff.
It's not like it was, you know, the prime minister
or the president of France or something. So it just
goes to show, well, what we already know, which is
that obviously he's lost many many steps. But the other
part of this, and even I saw Ezra Kleine, you
(04:25):
don't hear a lot about that guy anymore. He was
kind of the Democrat darling of the Obama years. But
he I think he still writes to Washington Post or something.
He was saying. The real challenge here is that Biden
has one hundred percent name It's funny because it sounds
like he listens to to us. Biden has one hundred
percent name ID. He is the president, and all the
alternatives really line up, including Kamala, line up about the
(04:49):
same or worse. So if all the polls show about
the same or worse, you're gonna take that. And you
definitely don't have universal name ID with some of the
other candidates that could step in the mix. I think
that's kind of Biden's It's kind of his Alamo, right.
I mean, obviously the Alamo didn't work. You know, the
bad guys won that one, But you know what I mean. Yeah, Look,
(05:11):
there's a story up.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
The drum beat is continuing, so I think that Look,
if you look right now, the top story on the
New York Times is, and this may be pretty significant,
donors said to freeze roughly ninety million dollars while Biden
stays in the race. The decision to withhold the money
(05:33):
one of the most concrete examples of the fallout from
President Biden's poor debate performance at the end of June,
and then the next second story is lingering worries about
President Biden's age could make blue states more competitive, party
operatives believe. So what we're seeing is the drumbeat of
(05:57):
negativity about Biden is not going away.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I do think.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I think if these reports about donors pulling their dollars
is true, that becomes pretty consequential because one of the
big storylines of the twenty twenty four race so far
is the Trump team has not really begun to deploy
their bucket fulls of cash, their wheelbarrows of cash that
(06:23):
they have raised since the charges and the conviction with
Alvin Bragg. What would make me nervous if I were
looking at these Biden poll numbers is they've been spending
tens of millions of dollars in all these battleground states
and buy in laars. They've been slipping and losing ground.
What happens if Trump comes in and spends that money
(06:46):
efficiently and effectively in some of these battlegrounds. Because as
you've said, and I think most people would agree with this,
the race I think is going to basically boil down
to Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Seems to reflect that Nevada, Arizona,
and Georgia are gone, and that North Carolina despite their
(07:08):
arguments to the contrary is going to be really hard
to spin into a positive. If that's correct, then Biden's
only method of winning this race is sweeping those big
ten states, and they're going to have to put a
billion dollars maybe into those states. But now Trump's going
to have the resources to fight back against it. So
(07:30):
that's where we are less than four months out.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I also think that the influence on public thinking of
going negative on Trump, I feel like they've hit what
is it? Is it the terminal velocity? Isn't that when
you've reached the absolute fastest speed you can when you
jump out of a plane.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It was a movie the nineties. I don't think it's
a very good one. I think they reached terminal velocity
of negative on Trump a while ago, probably when they
were doing in advance of the mid terms, the January
sixth hearings and all that sort of stuff. So I
do think that they have numbed the public to the
Trump is a threat to democracy, Trump is hitler stuff.
(08:14):
I think that they've reached a point now where you
can't you can't shock anybody who even has a television
about Trump, because they've said so much about Trump already
that there's nothing, there's nowhere else to go, you know.
And I think that their Trump hatred peaked early, uh
or their Trump opo peaked early, and so I don't
(08:34):
know how effectively they'll be able to deploy those dollars,
do you know what I mean? That's the h I
agree with you completely, and I mean they haven't even
taken into account Trump's ability to use all this stuff
of Biden should drop out. All these New York Times
headlines is perfect opo for Trump. I mean, he's gonna
be able to run ads as soon as we get
(08:55):
Biden one hundred one hundred percent locked in, right, He's
gonna be able to run ads. Like the biggest newspaper
in the country for libs. I think it might even
be the biggest newspaper in the country says that this
guy shouldn't even be running. How do you get around that?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Twice two different editorials has said he has to drop out. No,
I mean, it's it's pretty fascinating. And to your point,
the law of diminishing returns on anti Trump advertising has
certainly been reached, I believe, and there's evidence of that
in other markets. Remember, I think the guy's name was
Jamie Harrison, raised like one hundred million dollars in South
(09:33):
Carolina to run against Lindsey Graham and still lost by
over ten points. He bought every ad you could possibly buy.
He bought every television advertisement. At some point, there is
nothing else to draw. What's the great analogies like trying
to draw blood from a rock. There's nothing else there,
and so I think that we have likely reached that
(09:55):
era for the Biden team. I think that's one reason
they're panicking behind the scene. And again in theory, Trump
may have more money to spend than Biden down the
stretch run of this race now, and if that's true,
I would think that the ability to reach new Trump
voters has not necessarily occurred on the same level because
(10:18):
they haven't been spending tens of millions of dollars to
try to prop up the numbers in all of these
swing states over the past several months like they've been
trying to do with Biden. I think that's a big
reason why a lot of these congressional members and a
lot of these Senate candidates are coming out and saying
Biden needs to leave, because they're seeing the dollars dry up,
(10:38):
and they're recognizing that basically Biden has shot his shot
already and he doesn't have a lot of ammunition left
in order to really be able to take this battle
to Trump. That's kind of my assessment of where we
would be right now, based on looking at all these
numbers and how the money is being spent.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I think that's probably the it's likely to go. We
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So, how did the Democrat apparatus respond to the Biden
press conferenceasor by the way it ate up, like my
whole evening. I'm just gonna say it, okay, but you know,
I was supposed to be what was it, six thirty,
and then they delayed it to seven, and then they
would half an hour. And I also think that part
of it was he had to get to he had
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to do effectively an hour, because then that just becomes
its own talking point of like he did an hour
long press conference. Joe Biden just fine, now you are
hearing from There are still some skeptics out there. There
are still people that recognize that Joe Biden's brain doesn't
work very well. But I mean, look, he was never
a smart guy either. That's you know, He's always been
(13:23):
a grinning, glad handing, slimy, disingenuous does whatever the Democrat
Party wants him to do and that benefits him. Guy
like he's not. He's never been some towering intellect. But anyway, obviously,
now the neurons aren't firing the way they're supposed to.
But here is, for example, somebody who has a substantially
(13:45):
higher IQ. Rachel Maddow, who I want you to hear.
Clay and I were just talking about it a second ago.
I want you all to hear how Madow discussed Biden's
press conference play.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
This is cut tense, just fundamentally right on foreign policy
in the way that he talks about it. And again
your mileage may vary, that is how I feel about
the way he talks about our relationship with our allies
and our relationship with NATO. You can hear his command
of the issues, particularly in his asides, like mentioning as
an offhand way that it was Turkey really that needed
really to be talked into, an expansion of NATO that
(14:19):
included Finlin and Sweden, talking about the numbers of Russian
troop losses in Ukraine, talking about the fact that he
turned in his notes after he spoke privately with President
She alluding to the fact that Trump had all those
weird meetings with the Russians and Putin in which he
had no note taker present. I mean, it's even in
the little as signs where it just shows you he
is a master of the foreign policy field and has
been four decades in his career in the Senate, the
(14:41):
vice president, and the presidency, a.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Master of the foreign policy field. Clay, You're going to
start to hear more of this Joe Biden not sharp
as attack, but a master of the foreign policy field.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You know, I was watching the press comm diference, and
I'm not surprised that that's the Rachel Maddow take, because
now they're starting to recognize that Biden may well refuse
to step down, and so now they're going to have
to build him back up after tearing him down. I
think you'll start to see that a lot at MSNBC
and CNN if he continues to stay in this race.
(15:19):
I was actually more disappointed in the media than I
was in Biden, by which I mean, we know what
Joe Biden is. He's gonna raise his voice randomly, he's
gonna whisper creepily. He's gonna say anyway after giving some
sort of meandering response, and he's gonna be coughing, and
(15:40):
he is going to sound like a guy not that
in control of his mental and physical faculties. He's gonna
flip flop names. All those things we saw that we
expected to see it. The media was so bad, and
I know that they gave a list, and it should
be a bigger storyline that Biden walks out there with
a list of names that he has been provided from
(16:02):
all the people that he's going to call on. That's
an embarrassment to the media. You shouldn't allow that to happen.
And the way that they questioned him, several of the
questions to me seem designed to filibuster. One of the
questions was, I mean, first of all, anybody asking about NATO.
I understand it was a NATO related event. No one
(16:22):
in America cares about Joe Biden's opinion on NATO right now.
He's talked about it adam finitum. Nothing has changed. All
we care about is his mental and physical capacity as
it relates to domestic policy. And I bet forty to
fifty percent of the questions dealt with foreign affairs that
had nothing to do with what most Americans care about
right now. And that's kind of an IQ test for
(16:43):
the media, right not what you want to ask about.
What does the American public care about, because in theory,
you are the stewards of the American public there to
ask questions that they cannot ask. Like with Trump, I
try to think when we talk to him, if I
was it sitting here on this radio show, what would
I want to hear if I were riding around in
(17:04):
my car right now, what would I want to hear
if I'm listening on podcasts, Because we're not just focused
on ourselves in an interview like that, it's an opportunity
for them to talk to everyone.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And if we miss something that's really good or that
should have absolutely been asked, we're going to hear from
all of you about it. So we know that too, right,
if we don't ask the question that needed to be asked,
we're going to hear that we missed, So we try
to make sure that we avoid that one. That's why
that anticipation of what should be or is necessary for
the asking. And some fun stuff obviously too, especially with Trump.
(17:37):
He's so fun to talk to. I mean, we only
hung out with him for a little bit this morning,
but you know, you could sit down with that guy
for hours.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
He's just he's quite engaging, super likable. We'll talk about that.
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Buck, what did you think of?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And for those of you who did not hear it,
maybe you're just starting off your day with us Trump
was with us for hour one on the program. We're
going to replay that on our three. So if you're
in your car, you have a buddy or somebody that
you think would have enjoyed listening to it. Obviously you
can go podcasts, but I know a lot of people
out there they don't want to download podcasts. You're not
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necessarily wanting to listen to something off your phone. Trump
will be we'll replay it an hour three. But we
asked him about VP and he specifically mentioned four names,
Marco Rubio, Doug Burgum, Tim Scott, and JD.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Not a huge surprise. There have been reports out there
that Rubio, Burgham and Vance might be the final three.
He said he's got four or five names and he
has not made a choice yet.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So two parts. Do you think that he has made
a choice.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
He told us that he would like to announce it
next week at the RNC. That obviously would create a
massive amount of buzz. Do you think the selection will
be one of those four names or do you think
Trump is keeping one name in his back pocket that's
in play that could be played as a surprise A
(20:14):
Glenn Youngkin for instance. Vivey Ramaswami at Tulsa Gabbard, any
chance any of those are still in play, how would
you assess the beepstakes?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You know, with Trump, you never know, because I think
he is going to make sure that he plays this
for maximum effect. And I really did get the sense
from the conversation with him today that he has not
made a decision. I think that his decision could change,
you know, a few times, even between now and when
(20:47):
it actually comes out. And it's interesting to me because
I think that the there's more of a focus on
whether this is going to matter for his election effort
then there is on I think, at least from from
the media perspective, what this means for the Republican Party
going forward. And I actually think the latter, the latter
(21:08):
thing is the bigger thing, that this vice president is
less an adornment for the current ticket to help Trump.
This is a Trump election, right. I mean, there's no
getting around the fact that on the Republican side, it's
Trump's party and he is not just at the top
of the ticket. He is the ticket. I don't think anyone,
(21:28):
you know, Pence people thought maybe gave a little more
comfort to some of the evangelicals. A lot of Trump's
most fervent supporters are the evangelical community. So I don't
know if Pence was really necessary, but this time around,
everyone's going to talk about it as part of this
election cycle first and foremost, and I think the more
important thing is if you pick, depending on who the
(21:51):
candidate is, if you pick somebody like a Evans or Rubio,
I don't know. Maybe Doug Bergen wants the big job
himself at some point in the future. This is big
for that, more so in my mind even than how
it will affect now and election. Dad, This is a
Biden Trump election.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
This is a Trump Biden election. However you want to
phrase it. The vice presidents are going to be distant
and very second in mind as this goes forward. We've
talked a lot about Buck Island and yeah, a lot
of emails, a lot of people inquiring about I don't know,
some of you are little late, a little late to
Buck Island. Well, this is interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You on your bet for VP, maybe in stronger ground
than even on whether Biden's going to stay in because
the gambling markets have it still sixty percent that Biden's
going to get forced out, but jd vance has now
taken a commanding lead as the VP pick. He is
(22:52):
up to nearly even money, that is, you can basically
get for those of you who are gamblers, the odds
are such that it's like jd Vance or the field.
That means that you could choose based on the gambling markets,
somebody else or jd Vance. That's how much of a favorite,
basically even money, he's become. And so you may nail
(23:15):
that one because to your credit, when you started saying
jd Vance, he was pretty far down the broachart of
potential VP.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
He was like fifth sixth in the UH in the
runnings in terms of the the betting markets and and
the you know that there were a lot of other
people who were ahead of them uh and and ahead
of him. And I, yeah, I may have nailed that one.
I don't know if I nail them both. I don't
know what happens, but it's it's a good day for
buck Island. That's all that I know.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So so this decision, I think also plays in to
your point Buck.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
What for the VP.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
To me, what stands out is if he picks jd
Vance and jd Vans is now the favorite. If you
look at gambling markets in tens of millions of dollars
are being bet on this, so people are putting real
money down. JD vance, to me, becomes a huge favorite
to be if Trump wins to be the nominee in
(24:11):
twenty eight because he would have access to everyone. I
think JD is only thirty nine years old. Am I
right about that? He would also be the youngest vice
president that we have had in generations, I think, and
he would become a real favorite to be the nominee
(24:32):
in twenty eight, whereas if you picked somebody like Doug Bergham,
who is one of the other finalists. I don't know
that a lot of people out there are saying, Hey,
Doug Bergham's going to clear the field.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I don't does that make sense to you?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
To me, JD feels more like a deputization of the
future of the Trump movement than some of these other selections.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
If Trump goes for elder State, it's been alongside him
on the ticket. To me, that's just this guy or
Gal is my you know, is my second for my administration.
But it's not supposed to be necessarily an elevation A
little bit like Biden was under Obama for eight years.
But I think, although we all know that went in
a different direction, I think that if it's somebody who's
(25:19):
the next generation of Republican leadership, that could be a
big deal. But I'll tell you, I still think that
you would probably have a pretty lively primary, oh sir,
after you know, No matter what, I think that the
people will decide. I don't think anyone's going to convince,
you know, Vivek not to run again. He likes, he
likes media, he likes talking. I don't think he's going
(25:40):
to all of a sudden decide he's not going to
want to be on the debate stage in twenty eight
among others. By the way, there are many and by the.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Way, a lot of people also set out twenty four.
Like I would think DeSantis would run, I would think
young Kid would run. I would think Ted Cruz would run.
There are a lot of people that have been in
the mix that set out for twenty four. Or to
Nicky Haley tossed their names in the ring. I think
we'll have twenty five people announced, but it would make
JD I think the favorite in the early primary.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
One of the funniest things that I've heard a lot.
And does anyone to guess what I was watching this morning?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, starts with the morning ends with a Joe Baby.
I was watching some morning Joe. Carrie's so funny. Now
She just like, I come downstairs. My Crockett coffee is
ready Crocketcoffee dot com. Everybody, My Crockett coffee is ready.
Morning Joe is already on the TV screen for me.
She goes, Okay, honey, I'm like, oh, you're the best wife.
And I was watching it. But you know what they
love to say, well, you know, and they say it
(26:38):
as though it's just the most obvious thing that they
say it, as though there could be no dispute or
debate about it. They're just like, well, the Democrats have
such a deep bench. We sit there, I'm like, they do.
I mean, let's just take a moment here. I mean,
when you run down, you just rattled off a bunch
(26:58):
of names on the Republican side who you know, whether
you love him or not, And some of them you
probably do love. But they're very smart, very serious people.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Ted Cruz is a senator. Ted Cruz could also be
a state Attorney General Ted Cruz could also be a
Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Like, you know, he's a serious, smart guy. He could
be successful in many different endeavors.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Glen Glenn Youngkin was the CEO of one of the
biggest and most successful private equity firms in the entire
United States and made hundreds of millions of dollars, didn't
inherit it and made it okay, So you know, these
are serious people. You look on the other side, you
got the fake Native America and Elizabeth Warren without her
fake Native americanness. By the way, he doesn't even have
a legal teaching or Senate career. Just let's be honest
(27:43):
about this. Bernie Sanders, who is like a cartoon character. Okay,
he's like a cartoon character socialist.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
They bring up Gretchen he or Pete just the gay
dude who happened to be mayor of South Bend, Indiana,
and somehow he's now like one of the top contenders
to be resident and he's made.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Transportation Secretary an infamous position now. And then you know,
you look at who else they talk about, Gavin Newsom,
and you see this is Gavin Newsom is the slimiest
politician you could ever find. He's actually kind of like
a young Joe Biden. There's a lot of similarity between
the two of them. And you know, I just think
it's funny because they say, like, oh, we have such
(28:23):
a deep bench, clay Iff. They had such a deep bench,
they wouldn't be in this conundrum.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yes, yeah, And look the people they love. Gretchen Whitmer,
who has an evil, wicked witch of the West. Look
about her. I can't figure out exactly what do you
know what I'm talking about? Every time I see her
on television, I'm like, you look like the person who's
trying to kill snow White. That's ever. Every time I
see Gretchen Whitmer, I'm like, you look like you're gonna
take snow White and try to take her heart. And
(28:51):
then you got Jamie Pritzker, who's a billionaire sky on
I think of the Marriott or Hilton or whatever, but
he weighs like four and fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I don't I really think their bench.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
The problem is that it's all identity politics driven as
opposed to merit driven, and so there are a lot
of people in the Democrat upper echelon that could not
and have not been successful in other facets of life
that are in politics. Joe Biden's a perfect example of this.
We come back, Buck, there's a good audio clip you
know who what people are now saying. We've been saying
(29:28):
this for a couple of years. John Stewart said, Hey,
could Joe Biden do a job at like your local
home depot. Now everybody is saying what we've been saying
for a few years, even in the comedic space where
they're actually just being honest and looking at some of
this and saying, oh, yeah, this guy couldn't do any job,
much less president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We'll play that more for you coming back.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
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Speaker 2 (31:19):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We had a chat
with President Trump this morning. You're gonna hear that chat
coming up here in just a few minutes. And we'll
also bring you up to speed on any of the
latest developments as we're getting ready to head off for
this summer weekend RNC next week. Clay and I will
be there all week. If you see some appearances in
(31:40):
photos with a freakishly tall individual, that is likely our
friend Jesse Kelly, fellow radio host, will also be there.
And yes, don't don't, please don't send Clay or me
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Let's see to in Houston, Texas. All in for JD. Vance?
What's going on? Tom?
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Hey, what's up, guys? Megadiddo's I wanted to weigh in.
I wanted to weigh in on JD. Vance. And here's why.
I believe Rubio and Bergham are attached to the hip
with the swamp call Rove in particular, and the fact
I like but you know what, I think Vance would
(33:26):
be a perfect choice for Trump. He had no infectious
connection to He's new to Washington, and I think he'd
make a great candidate down the road. So he gets
my vote. I'm so hoping that he doesn't choose somebody,
you know from the call Rove school of government.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, you don't want to Rhino. I get what you're
putting down. Tom. Thank you for calling in from Houston. Play.
Have you ever read Hillbilly Elogy? Yeah? I did back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I mean that book came out what in like sixteen
if I remember correctly. I mean it's been a long
time now. It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's been been a decade or so, and it's just
funny because I feel like no one ever brings that out.
That was a huge bestseller when he wrote it. It's
really a memoir of growing up in a broken family
in the Ross Belt.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I give credit to jd Unlike almost every other politician,
he actually wrote his book. So again this goes to
people who are capable of doing other things. I think
if you read that book, jad Vance could have continued
to write books like he had an opportunity to do
that decided he wanted to go into politics instead. Melissa
in San Antonio, what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
So we're all in agreement that Biden is declining mentally.
But my problem that I'm having is that the news
cycle continues to hammer this and they're not We're not
focusing on what's going on in our country. Still gas
is going up, Still, inflation is still high.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
You know, these.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Problems still need to be for right up front. Immigration
is still happening, you know. And I'm afraid that by
just covering Biden on those are their topics and people
are gonna forget this and it's too empt.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
You get the concern. I get the concern, pocket, but
thank you for calling Melissa. I think having said all that,
Biden lighting himself on fire and the Democrat Party disunity
the last two weeks have been the best thing that
could happen for Trump. They're going to debate issues at
some point. I think Buck is right, either Biden's going
to be the guy or he's not. The issues are
(35:28):
not on Biden's side. In the meantime, when you're on fire,
you're not helping to make the case that you're solving
issues at all. And so I think that's what's going on.
By the way, one question that's out there to one
other caller, let's see if can get him in quickly.
Here Eric in Tennessee, you got a question about if
a senator is picked as VP.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, I'm curious about who governor of Ohio was going
to replace. JD. Vancewiz.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
If you guys are if he gets a VP, nuts,
are we gonna lose the feet and the Senate to
a Democrat because of this pick?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
No, they will only pick and I think this is important,
Buck Trump will only pick someone that has a Republican
governor to replace a Republican senator. So this would take
out like our buddy Ron Johnson. I would love for
him to be VP. Yeah, but we need him where
he is. That's right, because otherwise he would get replaced
by a Democrat and we would lose a Senate seat.
(36:24):
So the governor has to be a Republican as well
as the senator is.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Ron is standing athwart the damn of communism in Wisconsin.
He's like, hey, guys, not on my watch, So we
got to keep him there. What a good dude.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I'm looking forward to hanging out with him next week
when we're up in Milwaukee. Up next, President of the
United States, Donald Trump hanging with us on claim Buck
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