July 13, 2024 • 36 mins
Pelosi says it's up to Biden whether to run or not, even though Biden's made it clear he's decided. Democrats know they're headed for landslide defeat with Biden, but GOP can't be overconfident. Is Obama behind George Clooney op-ed? Screwing up and choosing wrong is part of life, but politicians never admit mistakes. Caller ends the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in third hour of play and Buck get's going
right now, flying through the show today, and a lot
to talk about will he stay or will he go?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Joe Biden. I think he's staying. I think he's likely.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Staying, but there's still the possibility, of course, is the
possibility of some kind of a last minute switch. We'll
see what ends up happening with that. Interesting to hear
all the back and forth over the decision here for
the Democrats and how this is playing out. Nancy Pelosi
(00:34):
still one of the biggest voices and I think has
some of the most sway among Democrats out there. She
is saying straight up, it is all about what Biden decides.
This has cut six and I think this is really,
at the end of the day, the truth of it all.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Does he have your support to be the head of
the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Again, as long as the president had the president, it's
up to the president to suicide if he is going
to run. We're all encouraging him to make that decision
because time is running short. But he's beloved, he is respected,
and people want him to make that decisions.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
He has said he has made the decision. He has
said firmly this week he is going to run. Do
you want him to run?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I want him to do whatever he decides to do,
and that's that's the way it is. Whatever he decides
we go with.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, can I just just for a moment, everybody, it's
pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
What do you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
What do you when you actually take a step back
and look at what's going on here? There's this constant
drum beat from prominent Democrats of I support whatever Joe
Biden does. And then a couple of hours later, Joe
Biden is on stage and we're saying I'm running, guys,
one hundred percent, I'm running. And then a couple of
days later you'll have another Democrat just want to be clear,
(02:00):
whatever Joe Biden decides, I will support. And then a
couple of hours later, you got Joe Biden's you know,
press shot putting out one Joe Biden. All In has
decided stop asking me about this, Like, at what point
can they stop playing this game of you know, they
keep leaving open the possibility that Joe will choose not
(02:22):
to but they don't want to say that, so they
just keep saying we'll support Joe, Joe saying I'm good
I'm running.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It's over, which is why the only thing in the
back of my mind that makes me wonder whether there
is another shoe to drop is whether they're making basic
threats to him. The New York Times Editorial, Washington Post
George Clooney A few. I think it's up to seven
(02:49):
different congressmen. Now do we have the audio, because I
do think this is actually kind of getting edit And
I give credit to Bennett. I believe the name of
the Colorado senator who came out last night on Caitlin
Collins Show and William Bennettonite. Yeah, I'm not sure his
first building.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Michael Bennett. I'm sorry, Bill Bennett, somebody else go ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, Michael Bennett came out and said, Hey, not only
am I concern that Biden's going to lose, I'm concerned
that it may be a landslide. Listen to cut nineteen.
This is now cutting through. This is the first senator
that I'm aware of to say publicly like he did,
and listen to this conversation, Hey, we're going to lose
(03:38):
and me we may get our ass kicked here he.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Is this race is on a trajectory that is very
worrisome if you care about the future of this country.
Joe Biden was nine points up at this time. At
the last time he was running, Hillary Clinton was five
points up. This is the first time in more than
twenty years that a Republican president has been up in
this part of the campaign. Donald Trump is on track,
(04:02):
I think to win the selection and maybe win it
by a landslide and take with him the Senate and
the House.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
That's what's going on here. Pay attention to that last
couple of lines.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Everybody's all well.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And good for the guy at the top of the ticket,
as long as the guy at the top of the
ticket doesn't start to impact your ability to continue. The
guys who are under the line of fire the most
right now. John Tester in Montana, shee he is beating him.
I think is going to beat him in Montana. Sharad Brown,
(04:37):
Bernie Marino is I think going to beat him in Ohio.
But then we've had these guys on Eric Hovdy in Wisconsin,
go vote for him. Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania, go vote
for him. A lot of these Carry Lake in Arizona,
Sam Brown in Nevada. A lot of these other Republicans
that are in these battleground states are starting to end
(05:00):
up a little bit as Joe Biden comes down and
many of these other senators and congress people who are
in toss up districts, they're starting to speak out. And
remember Buck, we shared this with the audience. I believe
it was Punch News that shared the internal Biden polling
of battleground states. Bennett there, the senator Democrat from Colorado.
(05:24):
Colorado right now is a battleground state. Nobody's talking about it.
But according to the Biden's own Biden's own polling, he's
only winning Colorado by a point or two. I mean,
we're talking Tom, We're not just talking about like, hey,
a few states out there that were within single digits
(05:45):
are going to be competitive. We're talking about Colorado, New Mexico,
places that really, I think many Democrats haven't considered battlegrounds
for some time.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
We'll look at the transformation of the national political conversation
that is happening right now. It has been an article
of faith, really for four years after the twenty twenty election,
that this is going to be razor thin, this is
going to be super close and that there will be
a lot of very competitive races. There is a panic
(06:19):
right now among Democrats that that is not in fact
going to be the case. That for the first time
since twenty twenty. I think Democrats are worried. That they are,
but they were not. I did not sense that they
were worried in twenty twenty two. You know, you think
about this. Our side got over confident, no question, our
side thought. Republicans thought they were going to pull out
(06:41):
the close races and and it didn't break our way
except you know, Florida, Ron De Santis ran up the
scoreboard like crazy twenty points. But elsewhere it didn't happen. Okay,
New York Long Island thankfully got us. The Lez Elden
was close, didn't win. But the Red movement in New
York and California was actually what gave us a control
(07:04):
in the House, which has been critical to Stemy. The
Biden destroy America agenda, so which is what they should
call it. That's technically not their platform, but I do
think that Biden destroy America agenda gets to the heart
of it. So we have seen a huge shift now
to Democrats in panic mode. Not we think our side's
(07:24):
going to do really well if trends continue. Democrats are
freaking out right now that they're going to lose in
a way that could be transformational for years to come
in American politics. Yes, there's a very real chance that
not only do you have a Donald Trump presidency, but
you have a Donald Trump presidency with House and Senate
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control again. And that is oddly you know, we haven't
even really talked about this. That feels like a very
different ballgame for what Trump can get done than if
he has a divided Congress. If he has a divided Congress,
we know what they're going to do, and you know
there's major legislation's not gonna happen. You still get the judges,
you still get executive orders, you still have a lot
of good things that Trump can do. But let's say
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that they managed to take the House and we take
the Senate for example, that would really slow things down
the way things are looking right now. It could be
read in a way that we haven't seen really since
the Tea Party election. And that's where I think. And
that was obviously a big year because of what was
(08:29):
able to be switched after the Obama wave. Year in
two thousand and eight. But I think that you're going
to see a lot of Democrats having to play defense
in places that a year ago they would have thought
it was unthinkable. I mean, hey, look, this can all change.
But somebody showed me how that's not the reality of
the numbers as they come out day in and day
out right now, and.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Every time we share these numbers, it's important. You need
to go vote. I need to get your friends and
family to go vote. And if you've got friends that
are not very usual voters, you need to sit down
with them and drive them to the polls with you.
Make those trips to go get your votes done. Vote early,
get an early ballot, get it taken care of, start
(09:12):
working on canvassing and getting other people to go vote.
All these things are true, But I just shared one
of my friends and one of our writers at OutKick,
Bobby Barack, just shared the data that MSNBC's television ratings,
notwithstanding Buck Sexton as their stalwart Morning Joe fan, they
have tanked to their lowest levels in twenty twenty four
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since the debate. As there is a form of depression
kind of setting in for Democrats again. This is when
you pour on more steam. But I think there is,
in addition to the nervousness about the traditional Democrat electorate,
whether you might be losing Hispanic men, black men, for instance,
I think that's real. I think there's also a massive
(10:00):
enthusiasm gap. And this is I think one of our
bets that I may finally win. One has been that
there will be fewer people vote in twenty twenty four
than voted in twenty twenty when we kind of get
the final tallies in. I'm really confident about that one
because I think the level of enthusiasm, especially if Joe
Biden is the guy A lot of people bought the
(10:22):
bill of goods that Biden sold. I don't think that
the Democrats are going to be as good at getting
out there electorate as they have been in for instance,
twenty twenty when I understand the rig job everything else
going on, but there was also a great deal of angst.
There was this sense that that election was the most
(10:42):
important election of our lifetimes. COVID played into it. Trump
was hitler according to them. I don't think they have
that same vibe. Do you feel, if you had to
guess right now, do you feel like the Democrats can
gin up the same level of turnout that they did
in twenty twenty right now, for months from now, from
election day.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'm concerned about that. I mean, I think that you
said there'll be less people voting in this election. The
last election, I found that hard to believe at the
time and said, so I'm finding it less hard.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
To believe now.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So I don't know, you know, maybe maybe I'll get
dessert at Poppy Steak for you or something. You know,
we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
If you don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Buck has been sharing videos of the most expensive steakhouse
that he can find in Miami. I have to admit
the videos look pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
They present a steak to you in a gold case
that they open up in front of you, and everyone
has white gloves on and they're wearing like black tie,
and they're playing loud music and there's a what is it?
What's the stuff that's like it's so cold, and that
it makes the smoke dry ice?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yes, there's like dry ice everywhere, and it's it's quite
a scene. So it's only like a thousand dollars clay,
so one thousand dollars steak. It is not to some
gold flakes on that. Why do you want gold flakes
on your steak? Because you want to light.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Money on fire apparently, so I will say that will
be the best money I have ever spent, because I
do you not see a way that Joe Biden can
win this election if he is the nominee. I hate
over confidence really in all things. I think over confidence
is one of the fastest ways to lose sight of
(12:13):
things and to create own goals for yourself, you know,
meaning scoring on yourself by accident. Right, But I don't
understand how to I don't understand how Biden could win
this election unless we're gonna start talking about I mean,
ballot rigging and massive malfeasance. That is something that just
so you know, we are going to talk to the
(12:34):
r and C chair and then either this week or
next week about the r n c's lawsuits. The r
and C is suing in all kinds of states to
get ahead of any issues or any improprieties or loopholes,
and so there is action being taken and we are
following it and we're going to bring that to you.
So people who are concerned about election integrity issues, we're
(12:57):
on it. We just have to present as it's happening, right,
We're not bringing these lawsuits, so we'll talk about that.
But my bottom line play here is a I know
it is possible, but I don't know how it is
possible that Donald Trump could lose to Joe Biden given
what's gone on. I mean, I know it's possible, I
just can't think of how.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
My concern if it happened would be Trump would have
his own health condition and in some way Republicans have
to scramble on the health front in the same way
that Democrats are.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Right now, that's I.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Mean four months away, or someone we saw what happen
with Kavanaugh.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I hate to even mention it.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Someone who is aware that Trump is likely to win
tries to act out against him in a violent way,
Which is why I've said I would sign to triple
Donald Trump's security detail and cover the rest of the
cost myself for the next four months, because that's how
concerned I am about deranged left wingers who had bought
(13:57):
into the idea that he's hitler trying to do something
now that they're having to come to grips with the
fact that, oh my goodness, he could very likely be
president again.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We'll dive into some of your call some of your emails.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You're coming up.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
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None of you, not a single one of you. You
should not be allowed to own a firearm. She has
people living out living, you know, with her, twenty four
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Speaker 2 (14:36):
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Speaker 4 (15:49):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, this
is George Clooney editorial.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Buck.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Question for you to think about and for you guys
out there to think about as well. Is this Obama
behind the scenes not yet being able or willing to
go public with his takedown of Joe Biden using someone
like George Clooney, who is a good friend of Obama's,
(16:19):
who was also at this huge fundraiser, to pave the
way for Obama to come over the top and publicly
disavow Joe Biden as the nominee. Is Obama willing to
put his finger on the scale. Remember he didn't endorse
(16:39):
Biden in twenty he told him not to run in sixteen.
All he's done, to my knowledge is send out that
one tweet about oh, everybody has bad debates? Is Obama
working behind the scenes to try to maneuver, using the
New York Times, the editorial board, which is in his
(17:01):
back pocket, to try to put pressure and setting up
an opportunity for him to deliver the knockout punch. Is
that a crazy idea?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I mean, I wo you say crazy, You're putting me
in a tough position. Do I think that's what's happening now?
Do I think that Clooney would want to be an
Obama surrogate in that way because it will become too obvious.
I think if Obama just rolls out after this, I
also think Joe should step down. And here's the thing,
how can you say he should step down, and then
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you don't know who should take over? Why not the
vice president? Everybody? They should everyone, every lib should be
hammered on this.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
We have a lot, we have a deep bench. You
have a vice president, you have a mental issue with
the president. You have a vice president. Why shouldn't she
take over? Because they think she'll do even worse.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I think that's right, and I think that's why they
want an actual contested convention of some degree, which is
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Speaker 1 (18:50):
Now, welcome back into Clay in Buck. It's crazy that
it's the middle of gly We've got the RNC coming
up next week in Milwaukee. Looking forward to seeing many
of you in person walking around the streets with that
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the best one is, or you can call into and
tell the team. And then we have this continuing debate
and discussion over what should be done with Biden because
this whole race could could change in a heartbeat, could
change very rapidly depending on how that goes. Clay, I'll
just note that I think originally was it tomorrow was
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supposed to be trumps sentencing, right.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think that was right.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Trump is supposed to be sentenced, possibly to prison tomorrow.
And here that was decided weeks ago, and now they've
moved it to September. And the polls are showing a
wipeout for Biden if he stays in, I'll likely wipeout
for anybody on the Democrat side who would take over
(20:21):
for him. And and here we are looking at the
very high likely that no other trials. By the way,
I think you're right about that one. Now I think
that they're not the We both thought New York was
going to happen, and it did. I said one or
two trials will happen. You said only one. I think
it is going to end up being only one. I
think the j sixth trial given the Supreme Courts to
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see the Supreme Court refuse to do what all the
other courts have done, which is super fast, ludicrous speed
to get Trump. So there looks like they're not going
to be able to get it done. I like a
very small probably. I'd give it a five percent chance
they'll be able to start the Jay six trial.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's that's that might be generous.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But the whole lawfair thing, I just think it's interesting
to take a moment. The entire lawfair situation seems to
have been an abject failure, and if anything, seems to
have consolidated the GOP and a lot of non GOP voters,
(21:19):
not base voters. I guess you could say around Donald
Trump in this moment because it was just too wrong,
you know, and I think that we should take a
moment to be really happy about that. Yeah, I think
you're a solid majority of the American people still recognize
you don't hold four prosecutions on bogus nonsense until an
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election year to stop somebody from becoming president. You know,
that's just too gross.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I think it's a very strong If Trump goes on
to win, I think it will be among the most
significant parts of his victory because anytime someone thinks about
doing this in the future, they will say, be careful,
look at what happened to Biden when he tried to
do it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
To Trump.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Also, as a part of this, you and I took
shrapnel four months from a lot of people out there
in this audience who said Trump could never win in
twenty twenty four. I wonder how many of you out
in that audience who might have been sending an angry
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email or been sending an angry tweet, would like to
reconsider that position as we sit here less than four
months from the election. I think the argument that Trump
was uniquely unelectable, whether you were a Nicky Hayley person
or Ron DeSantis person, has gone up in flames.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Doesn't mean that Trump's gonna win.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I think that he will, and I think that he
should be favored to win right now.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
That in and of itself proves the failure to me
of that argument.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
I have not seen anybody reach out and say, you
know what, I came after you guys pretty hard. I
haven't seen anybody reach out and say I was wrong.
Let me say this. We talked about this a little bit.
Consider the power that comes with admitting when you get
something wrong. I wish we could normalize this in America.
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You know who does this really well? Buck Venture Capital.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Guys. I thought you're gonna say husbands.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I've learned that one husbands are never right, so you
don't even ever consider the fact that you might be correct.
Like last night, I was watching House of the Dragon
with Laura. I was watching it last night caught out,
what do you think? I'm a couple episodes behind, but
let me catch up and then i'll give you my okay,
so there are through four episodes season two. I reached
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over at my phone and I sent a tweet kind
of giving a rough approximation of what I think of
the season so far. For those of you who don't know,
this is the Game of Thrones connected spin off, and
I said, season two way better than season one so far, basically.
And my wife said, I don't think it's in season two.
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I think you're wrong about that. Said, nope, it's season two.
And then I didn't even continue the argument. I just said,
you know what, let's talk about something else, because I
don't even want to be right when I know I'm right,
because I don't know that it benefits me that much
to be right. But the guys and gals who do
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the best at recognizing when they're wrong. Venture capital, you
invest a lot of money in a variety of different companies.
Some of them are going to go belly up and fail,
and you have to acknowledge it with the idea that
you're going to hit some grand slams.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Well, a thing which being wrong is baked into the
expectations that venture capital operates under, and so you are
allowed to send that email to your partners or to
your investors. Hey, guys, one, two, and three were a
total bust. Here's why it was really interesting. But turns
out we got those wrong. But four is up? You know,
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two thousand percent or whatever?
Speaker 7 (25:23):
You know?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Is that life?
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Though?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Why can't we normalize the way venture capital handles failure
and wrongness in also life?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Because there are a lot of you out there listening
right now.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
You may have had bad first marriages, you might have
had businesses that you started that failed, But in life,
no matter who you are, you're also going to have
several things that you hit grand slams on. You may
be an amazing father, you may be an amazing aunt.
In life, we don't say enough. Hey, you know what,
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I just screwed that up. I think it would change.
I wish what politicians would do it because we've accepted
this world where if a politician ever says, you know,
what in retrospect, I wish I could have a do
over on that.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Everybody wants to do that. In life.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
There's nobody who's ever like, you know what, Every decision
that I've ever made is perfect. I've never done anything wrong.
That's the way that we require much of public conversation
in this country to take place. So anyway, I'm just saying,
imagine if you normalized acknowledging when you screwed up in
an honest way and just moved on, I think what
you would find is people actually trust you more instead
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of the reverse, which is you're like, oh, nobody's ever
going to trust me anymore. They actually trust you more
because they say, you know what, nobody's perfect.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I think for most in politics and in media, it's
very powerful to present yourself as always having the answer. Yeah,
always being right is tied into that right. I always
have the answer, I'm always right, and that is very sellable.
That is inherently appealing to people. But I agree we
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would be in a better place if everybody who had
a platform, or everybody who had sway in the public
discussion and one way or another was willing to say, look,
I got this one wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And here's why you know, we could start.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I won't take us into the whole COVID discussion, but
I mean that's just a perfect but example.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
You feel a little bit better if some of those
people started coming out and saying, I understand that I'm
not saying you have to apologize, although I can.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I tell you my crazy thought on this, and this
is is that it's a it's effectively turned into in
this country politically.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And this is because I am a true believer of
the right. And I will just say this.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
If Democrats started to admit they were wrong about some things,
it would become apparent that they are wrong about essentially everything,
and that the dominoes would all start to fall if
there was honesty about what's happened with their crime policies,
what happens with their economic policies, what happens with their
border like, it all starts to fall apart if you
apply an objective standard to it. So you have to
owe apply in emotional standard to everything Democrats do as
(28:03):
a democrat, which is, we had really good intentions and
the other people.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Are really bad.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, and that's everything. That's the framework for every discussion,
for every that's how you can have you know, urine feces,
broken glass and needles and assaults and theft going on
all over the place in San Francisco downtown. And the
people of San Francisco are still kind of like, yeah,
but I'm a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's like, well, how could you still be? How could
you still do this? How could you still well?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Because we want everyone to feel good and be happy.
We don't want anyone to go to prison. We want
unhoused people to have everything for free. And Republicans are
basically Nazis, so that turns into everything.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I would also go back and say that this would
tie in with my original proposition. Maybe I'm strange in this.
I'm willing to change my mind. I've made bad decisions
in voting.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I vote.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I voted for Gary Johnson. I understand people out there
are like and we're still friends. That's a bad choice.
I made the wrong choice there. And I'm a fairly
highly educated voter.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
But can I tell you a truth about my voter
was real quick. My first ever vote was for George W.
Bush in two thousand and I remember, and like, I
went off to college and I hadn't really experienced and
people would have. I'm like, yeah, I voted for Bush.
And I remember that was my first taste of people
look at me like, what do you mean you voted
for Bush?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah? I was eighteen.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I was like, I mean, didn't we all like you
guys aren't idiots?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
You all voted for Bush?
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
That guy Gore is a clown? Right, like we all?
I voted.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Oh no, I voted for Gore, and I think most
people around our age probably did.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
But my point on this is, imagine.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
If you wake up every day and I would encourage
all of you do this and just think, what if
I'm wrong about this? And I would tell you what
I've seen buck. The people who are willing to even
consider that are the most successful in the country in
terms of financial success, because they learn from where they
(30:06):
screwed up. They recognize their blind spots, and they are
better going forward than they would be if they just
live in San Francisco and say, oh, you know what,
I just got to deal with the fact that my
little girl might step on needles on the way to
the park. Maybe consider how this situation arose and weather
and this is also ultimately ultimate power. Whether your own
(30:31):
choices help to make it a reality, and if so,
the first thing you can do is change your behavior
before you start looking at the external world and searching
for somebody to blame.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
There you go. There's my ted talk for the day.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
And I want to tell you as we roll into
the Olympics, I can't wait. Have you seen some of
these Olympics stories, Buck, You know that they're going to
try to swim in the sign Sin River, the main
river coming through Paris, even though it's filled with feces
right now, like this is one of the primary area.
(31:08):
Have you heard about this?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Ew? No, isn't this crazy?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I can't believe more people aren't talking about this. They
are planning to use the main river in Paris, which
many of you have probably been on if you've ever
visited Paris.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It's filthy. Nobody swims in it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
They tried to clean it up and turn it into
one of the Olympics swimming venues, and it's just it's
a mess. As we sit here, what like two weeks
away from the start of the Olympics. Reason why I
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got a couple of calls. People want to weigh in
Buck on a variety of different topics. Bubba in Minneapolis.
(34:08):
I'm gonna be honest with you, Bubba. I did not
expect Bubba to be from Minneapolis. That's not a combo. Birmingham,
New Orleans, Nashville, I can see the Bubba.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
How many Bubba's are there in Minneapolis.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Few and far between, fellas few and far between.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Got a lot of Franks Chattanooga though, So.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's a great place. What you got for us?
Speaker 7 (34:32):
My main main point in Colin is this thing has legs.
With Trump and the golf game, he could raise a
lot more money. Think of Super Bowl ads. Somebody they
donate all the ad money to this whole thing. But
my biggest thing is I got a draft pool. Okay,
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We want to see Carl from Caddyshack Number two. Pepper
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go with Ron Burgundy Anchorman.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
That would be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I agree with I agree with Bubba from Minneapolis. This,
I think also shows here's the big problem that Democrats
have when it comes to issues like these. They have
no sense of humor. Buck When I read the Biden
teams response to Donald's.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Golf, they have no swagger at all. There's such a
bunch of dorks. Honestly, it's pre possible.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
It was like hearing the kid who just got hung
on the by his underwear on the leggies.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
They're not funny. Trump gave me a leggie and it's
not funny, And it's like, actually, Biden's team makes it funnier.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It was so tone death.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
They have a dementia patient for a candidate, but they
also just have a huge collection of loser, not very
fun people working on this campaign.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's my biggest takeaway.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Can we can we split Clay the uh the emails
on from WISN listeners on steak and restaurant recommendations from
Milwaukee because we've got about four hours of reading ahead
of us right now.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh yeah, I saw I saw this in the inbox.
Thank you all.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Carnivore, five o'clock Steakhouse, Eddie martiniz, Wow, we got a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
It is pretty fantastic. I can't wait to get up weather.
It looks like it's gonna be good. I was actually
checking today. It's hot everywhere else Milwaukee not bad. I'm
gonna eat some bracts brats.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Oh come on,
Welcome in third hour of play and Buck get's going
right now, flying through the show today, and a lot
to talk about will he stay or will he go?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Joe Biden. I think he's staying. I think he's likely.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Staying, but there's still the possibility, of course, is the
possibility of some kind of a last minute switch. We'll
see what ends up happening with that. Interesting to hear
all the back and forth over the decision here for
the Democrats and how this is playing out. Nancy Pelosi
(00:34):
still one of the biggest voices and I think has
some of the most sway among Democrats out there. She
is saying straight up, it is all about what Biden decides.
This has cut six and I think this is really,
at the end of the day, the truth of it all.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Does he have your support to be the head of
the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Again, as long as the president had the president, it's
up to the president to suicide if he is going
to run. We're all encouraging him to make that decision
because time is running short. But he's beloved, he is respected,
and people want him to make that decisions.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
He has said he has made the decision. He has
said firmly this week he is going to run. Do
you want him to run?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I want him to do whatever he decides to do,
and that's that's the way it is. Whatever he decides
we go with.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, can I just just for a moment, everybody, it's
pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
What do you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
What do you when you actually take a step back
and look at what's going on here? There's this constant
drum beat from prominent Democrats of I support whatever Joe
Biden does. And then a couple of hours later, Joe
Biden is on stage and we're saying I'm running, guys,
one hundred percent, I'm running. And then a couple of
days later you'll have another Democrat just want to be clear,
(02:00):
whatever Joe Biden decides, I will support. And then a
couple of hours later, you got Joe Biden's you know,
press shot putting out one Joe Biden. All In has
decided stop asking me about this, Like, at what point
can they stop playing this game of you know, they
keep leaving open the possibility that Joe will choose not
(02:22):
to but they don't want to say that, so they
just keep saying we'll support Joe, Joe saying I'm good
I'm running.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It's over, which is why the only thing in the
back of my mind that makes me wonder whether there
is another shoe to drop is whether they're making basic
threats to him. The New York Times Editorial, Washington Post
George Clooney A few. I think it's up to seven
(02:49):
different congressmen. Now do we have the audio, because I
do think this is actually kind of getting edit And
I give credit to Bennett. I believe the name of
the Colorado senator who came out last night on Caitlin
Collins Show and William Bennettonite. Yeah, I'm not sure his
first building.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Michael Bennett. I'm sorry, Bill Bennett, somebody else go ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, Michael Bennett came out and said, Hey, not only
am I concern that Biden's going to lose, I'm concerned
that it may be a landslide. Listen to cut nineteen.
This is now cutting through. This is the first senator
that I'm aware of to say publicly like he did,
and listen to this conversation, Hey, we're going to lose
(03:38):
and me we may get our ass kicked here he.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Is this race is on a trajectory that is very
worrisome if you care about the future of this country.
Joe Biden was nine points up at this time. At
the last time he was running, Hillary Clinton was five
points up. This is the first time in more than
twenty years that a Republican president has been up in
this part of the campaign. Donald Trump is on track,
(04:02):
I think to win the selection and maybe win it
by a landslide and take with him the Senate and
the House.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
That's what's going on here. Pay attention to that last
couple of lines.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Everybody's all well.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And good for the guy at the top of the ticket,
as long as the guy at the top of the
ticket doesn't start to impact your ability to continue. The
guys who are under the line of fire the most
right now. John Tester in Montana, shee he is beating him.
I think is going to beat him in Montana. Sharad Brown,
(04:37):
Bernie Marino is I think going to beat him in Ohio.
But then we've had these guys on Eric Hovdy in Wisconsin,
go vote for him. Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania, go vote
for him. A lot of these Carry Lake in Arizona,
Sam Brown in Nevada. A lot of these other Republicans
that are in these battleground states are starting to end
(05:00):
up a little bit as Joe Biden comes down and
many of these other senators and congress people who are
in toss up districts, they're starting to speak out. And
remember Buck, we shared this with the audience. I believe
it was Punch News that shared the internal Biden polling
of battleground states. Bennett there, the senator Democrat from Colorado.
(05:24):
Colorado right now is a battleground state. Nobody's talking about it.
But according to the Biden's own Biden's own polling, he's
only winning Colorado by a point or two. I mean,
we're talking Tom, We're not just talking about like, hey,
a few states out there that were within single digits
(05:45):
are going to be competitive. We're talking about Colorado, New Mexico,
places that really, I think many Democrats haven't considered battlegrounds
for some time.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
We'll look at the transformation of the national political conversation
that is happening right now. It has been an article
of faith, really for four years after the twenty twenty election,
that this is going to be razor thin, this is
going to be super close and that there will be
a lot of very competitive races. There is a panic
(06:19):
right now among Democrats that that is not in fact
going to be the case. That for the first time
since twenty twenty. I think Democrats are worried. That they are,
but they were not. I did not sense that they
were worried in twenty twenty two. You know, you think
about this. Our side got over confident, no question, our
side thought. Republicans thought they were going to pull out
(06:41):
the close races and and it didn't break our way
except you know, Florida, Ron De Santis ran up the
scoreboard like crazy twenty points. But elsewhere it didn't happen. Okay,
New York Long Island thankfully got us. The Lez Elden
was close, didn't win. But the Red movement in New
York and California was actually what gave us a control
(07:04):
in the House, which has been critical to Stemy. The
Biden destroy America agenda, so which is what they should
call it. That's technically not their platform, but I do
think that Biden destroy America agenda gets to the heart
of it. So we have seen a huge shift now
to Democrats in panic mode. Not we think our side's
(07:24):
going to do really well if trends continue. Democrats are
freaking out right now that they're going to lose in
a way that could be transformational for years to come
in American politics. Yes, there's a very real chance that
not only do you have a Donald Trump presidency, but
you have a Donald Trump presidency with House and Senate
(07:46):
control again. And that is oddly you know, we haven't
even really talked about this. That feels like a very
different ballgame for what Trump can get done than if
he has a divided Congress. If he has a divided Congress,
we know what they're going to do, and you know
there's major legislation's not gonna happen. You still get the judges,
you still get executive orders, you still have a lot
of good things that Trump can do. But let's say
(08:08):
that they managed to take the House and we take
the Senate for example, that would really slow things down
the way things are looking right now. It could be
read in a way that we haven't seen really since
the Tea Party election. And that's where I think. And
that was obviously a big year because of what was
(08:29):
able to be switched after the Obama wave. Year in
two thousand and eight. But I think that you're going
to see a lot of Democrats having to play defense
in places that a year ago they would have thought
it was unthinkable. I mean, hey, look, this can all change.
But somebody showed me how that's not the reality of
the numbers as they come out day in and day
out right now, and.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Every time we share these numbers, it's important. You need
to go vote. I need to get your friends and
family to go vote. And if you've got friends that
are not very usual voters, you need to sit down
with them and drive them to the polls with you.
Make those trips to go get your votes done. Vote early,
get an early ballot, get it taken care of, start
(09:12):
working on canvassing and getting other people to go vote.
All these things are true, But I just shared one
of my friends and one of our writers at OutKick,
Bobby Barack, just shared the data that MSNBC's television ratings,
notwithstanding Buck Sexton as their stalwart Morning Joe fan, they
have tanked to their lowest levels in twenty twenty four
(09:36):
since the debate. As there is a form of depression
kind of setting in for Democrats again. This is when
you pour on more steam. But I think there is,
in addition to the nervousness about the traditional Democrat electorate,
whether you might be losing Hispanic men, black men, for instance,
I think that's real. I think there's also a massive
(10:00):
enthusiasm gap. And this is I think one of our
bets that I may finally win. One has been that
there will be fewer people vote in twenty twenty four
than voted in twenty twenty when we kind of get
the final tallies in. I'm really confident about that one
because I think the level of enthusiasm, especially if Joe
Biden is the guy A lot of people bought the
(10:22):
bill of goods that Biden sold. I don't think that
the Democrats are going to be as good at getting
out there electorate as they have been in for instance,
twenty twenty when I understand the rig job everything else
going on, but there was also a great deal of angst.
There was this sense that that election was the most
(10:42):
important election of our lifetimes. COVID played into it. Trump
was hitler according to them. I don't think they have
that same vibe. Do you feel, if you had to
guess right now, do you feel like the Democrats can
gin up the same level of turnout that they did
in twenty twenty right now, for months from now, from
election day.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'm concerned about that. I mean, I think that you
said there'll be less people voting in this election. The
last election, I found that hard to believe at the
time and said, so I'm finding it less hard.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
To believe now.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So I don't know, you know, maybe maybe I'll get
dessert at Poppy Steak for you or something. You know,
we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
If you don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Buck has been sharing videos of the most expensive steakhouse
that he can find in Miami. I have to admit
the videos look pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
They present a steak to you in a gold case
that they open up in front of you, and everyone
has white gloves on and they're wearing like black tie,
and they're playing loud music and there's a what is it?
What's the stuff that's like it's so cold, and that
it makes the smoke dry ice?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yes, there's like dry ice everywhere, and it's it's quite
a scene. So it's only like a thousand dollars clay,
so one thousand dollars steak. It is not to some
gold flakes on that. Why do you want gold flakes
on your steak? Because you want to light.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Money on fire apparently, so I will say that will
be the best money I have ever spent, because I
do you not see a way that Joe Biden can
win this election if he is the nominee. I hate
over confidence really in all things. I think over confidence
is one of the fastest ways to lose sight of
(12:13):
things and to create own goals for yourself, you know,
meaning scoring on yourself by accident. Right, But I don't
understand how to I don't understand how Biden could win
this election unless we're gonna start talking about I mean,
ballot rigging and massive malfeasance. That is something that just
so you know, we are going to talk to the
(12:34):
r and C chair and then either this week or
next week about the r n c's lawsuits. The r
and C is suing in all kinds of states to
get ahead of any issues or any improprieties or loopholes,
and so there is action being taken and we are
following it and we're going to bring that to you.
So people who are concerned about election integrity issues, we're
(12:57):
on it. We just have to present as it's happening, right,
We're not bringing these lawsuits, so we'll talk about that.
But my bottom line play here is a I know
it is possible, but I don't know how it is
possible that Donald Trump could lose to Joe Biden given
what's gone on. I mean, I know it's possible, I
just can't think of how.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
My concern if it happened would be Trump would have
his own health condition and in some way Republicans have
to scramble on the health front in the same way
that Democrats are.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Right now, that's I.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Mean four months away, or someone we saw what happen
with Kavanaugh.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I hate to even mention it.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Someone who is aware that Trump is likely to win
tries to act out against him in a violent way,
Which is why I've said I would sign to triple
Donald Trump's security detail and cover the rest of the
cost myself for the next four months, because that's how
concerned I am about deranged left wingers who had bought
(13:57):
into the idea that he's hitler trying to do something
now that they're having to come to grips with the
fact that, oh my goodness, he could very likely be
president again.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We'll dive into some of your call some of your emails.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You're coming up.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Also, remember that Sota Mayor incident where her security detail
had to shoot a guy who was trying to car
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which is the fancy part of DC, Washington, DC. And
she thinks none of you should be able to have guns.
None of you, not a single one of you. You
should not be allowed to own a firearm. She has
people living out living, you know, with her, twenty four
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that interesting story that we can get to.
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Speaker 4 (15:49):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, this
is George Clooney editorial.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Buck.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Question for you to think about and for you guys
out there to think about as well. Is this Obama
behind the scenes not yet being able or willing to
go public with his takedown of Joe Biden using someone
like George Clooney, who is a good friend of Obama's,
(16:19):
who was also at this huge fundraiser, to pave the
way for Obama to come over the top and publicly
disavow Joe Biden as the nominee. Is Obama willing to
put his finger on the scale. Remember he didn't endorse
(16:39):
Biden in twenty he told him not to run in sixteen.
All he's done, to my knowledge is send out that
one tweet about oh, everybody has bad debates? Is Obama
working behind the scenes to try to maneuver, using the
New York Times, the editorial board, which is in his
(17:01):
back pocket, to try to put pressure and setting up
an opportunity for him to deliver the knockout punch. Is
that a crazy idea?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I mean, I wo you say crazy, You're putting me
in a tough position. Do I think that's what's happening now?
Do I think that Clooney would want to be an
Obama surrogate in that way because it will become too obvious.
I think if Obama just rolls out after this, I
also think Joe should step down. And here's the thing,
how can you say he should step down, and then
(17:36):
you don't know who should take over? Why not the
vice president? Everybody? They should everyone, every lib should be
hammered on this.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
We have a lot, we have a deep bench. You
have a vice president, you have a mental issue with
the president. You have a vice president. Why shouldn't she
take over? Because they think she'll do even worse.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I think that's right, and I think that's why they
want an actual contested convention of some degree, which is
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Speaker 1 (18:50):
Now, welcome back into Clay in Buck. It's crazy that
it's the middle of gly We've got the RNC coming
up next week in Milwaukee. Looking forward to seeing many
of you in person walking around the streets with that
great city for our wis N listeners. Thank you so much,
by the way, because we are number one in your
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Speaker 2 (19:12):
Give me a right in.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
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VIP email address. What is the best steakhouse in Milwaukee?
I need a little help on this one, all right,
the best steakhouse in Milwaukee, and my best I mean expensive,
you know what I mean. I'm not looking for value
here because somebody else might be paying. So I'm saying,
let us know, please do right in tell us what
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the best one is, or you can call into and
tell the team. And then we have this continuing debate
and discussion over what should be done with Biden because
this whole race could could change in a heartbeat, could
change very rapidly depending on how that goes. Clay, I'll
just note that I think originally was it tomorrow was
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supposed to be trumps sentencing, right.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think that was right.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Trump is supposed to be sentenced, possibly to prison tomorrow.
And here that was decided weeks ago, and now they've
moved it to September. And the polls are showing a
wipeout for Biden if he stays in, I'll likely wipeout
for anybody on the Democrat side who would take over
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for him. And and here we are looking at the
very high likely that no other trials. By the way,
I think you're right about that one. Now I think
that they're not the We both thought New York was
going to happen, and it did. I said one or
two trials will happen. You said only one. I think
it is going to end up being only one. I
think the j sixth trial given the Supreme Courts to
(20:42):
see the Supreme Court refuse to do what all the
other courts have done, which is super fast, ludicrous speed
to get Trump. So there looks like they're not going
to be able to get it done. I like a
very small probably. I'd give it a five percent chance
they'll be able to start the Jay six trial.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's that's that might be generous.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But the whole lawfair thing, I just think it's interesting
to take a moment. The entire lawfair situation seems to
have been an abject failure, and if anything, seems to
have consolidated the GOP and a lot of non GOP voters,
(21:19):
not base voters. I guess you could say around Donald
Trump in this moment because it was just too wrong,
you know, and I think that we should take a
moment to be really happy about that. Yeah, I think
you're a solid majority of the American people still recognize
you don't hold four prosecutions on bogus nonsense until an
(21:43):
election year to stop somebody from becoming president. You know,
that's just too gross.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I think it's a very strong If Trump goes on
to win, I think it will be among the most
significant parts of his victory because anytime someone thinks about
doing this in the future, they will say, be careful,
look at what happened to Biden when he tried to
do it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
To Trump.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Also, as a part of this, you and I took
shrapnel four months from a lot of people out there
in this audience who said Trump could never win in
twenty twenty four. I wonder how many of you out
in that audience who might have been sending an angry
(22:30):
email or been sending an angry tweet, would like to
reconsider that position as we sit here less than four
months from the election. I think the argument that Trump
was uniquely unelectable, whether you were a Nicky Hayley person
or Ron DeSantis person, has gone up in flames.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Doesn't mean that Trump's gonna win.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I think that he will, and I think that he
should be favored to win right now.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
That in and of itself proves the failure to me
of that argument.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
I have not seen anybody reach out and say, you
know what, I came after you guys pretty hard. I
haven't seen anybody reach out and say I was wrong.
Let me say this. We talked about this a little bit.
Consider the power that comes with admitting when you get
something wrong. I wish we could normalize this in America.
(23:31):
You know who does this really well? Buck Venture Capital.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Guys. I thought you're gonna say husbands.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I've learned that one husbands are never right, so you
don't even ever consider the fact that you might be correct.
Like last night, I was watching House of the Dragon
with Laura. I was watching it last night caught out,
what do you think? I'm a couple episodes behind, but
let me catch up and then i'll give you my okay,
so there are through four episodes season two. I reached
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over at my phone and I sent a tweet kind
of giving a rough approximation of what I think of
the season so far. For those of you who don't know,
this is the Game of Thrones connected spin off, and
I said, season two way better than season one so far, basically.
And my wife said, I don't think it's in season two.
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I think you're wrong about that. Said, nope, it's season two.
And then I didn't even continue the argument. I just said,
you know what, let's talk about something else, because I
don't even want to be right when I know I'm right,
because I don't know that it benefits me that much
to be right. But the guys and gals who do
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the best at recognizing when they're wrong. Venture capital, you
invest a lot of money in a variety of different companies.
Some of them are going to go belly up and fail,
and you have to acknowledge it with the idea that
you're going to hit some grand slams.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Well, a thing which being wrong is baked into the
expectations that venture capital operates under, and so you are
allowed to send that email to your partners or to
your investors. Hey, guys, one, two, and three were a
total bust. Here's why it was really interesting. But turns
out we got those wrong. But four is up? You know,
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two thousand percent or whatever?
Speaker 7 (25:23):
You know?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Is that life?
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Though?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Why can't we normalize the way venture capital handles failure
and wrongness in also life?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Because there are a lot of you out there listening
right now.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
You may have had bad first marriages, you might have
had businesses that you started that failed, But in life,
no matter who you are, you're also going to have
several things that you hit grand slams on. You may
be an amazing father, you may be an amazing aunt.
In life, we don't say enough. Hey, you know what,
(25:55):
I just screwed that up. I think it would change.
I wish what politicians would do it because we've accepted
this world where if a politician ever says, you know,
what in retrospect, I wish I could have a do
over on that.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Everybody wants to do that. In life.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
There's nobody who's ever like, you know what, Every decision
that I've ever made is perfect. I've never done anything wrong.
That's the way that we require much of public conversation
in this country to take place. So anyway, I'm just saying,
imagine if you normalized acknowledging when you screwed up in
an honest way and just moved on, I think what
you would find is people actually trust you more instead
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of the reverse, which is you're like, oh, nobody's ever
going to trust me anymore. They actually trust you more
because they say, you know what, nobody's perfect.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I think for most in politics and in media, it's
very powerful to present yourself as always having the answer. Yeah,
always being right is tied into that right. I always
have the answer, I'm always right, and that is very sellable.
That is inherently appealing to people. But I agree we
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would be in a better place if everybody who had
a platform, or everybody who had sway in the public
discussion and one way or another was willing to say, look,
I got this one wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And here's why you know, we could start.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I won't take us into the whole COVID discussion, but
I mean that's just a perfect but example.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
You feel a little bit better if some of those
people started coming out and saying, I understand that I'm
not saying you have to apologize, although I can.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I tell you my crazy thought on this, and this
is is that it's a it's effectively turned into in
this country politically.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And this is because I am a true believer of
the right. And I will just say this.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
If Democrats started to admit they were wrong about some things,
it would become apparent that they are wrong about essentially everything,
and that the dominoes would all start to fall if
there was honesty about what's happened with their crime policies,
what happens with their economic policies, what happens with their
border like, it all starts to fall apart if you
apply an objective standard to it. So you have to
owe apply in emotional standard to everything Democrats do as
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a democrat, which is, we had really good intentions and
the other people.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Are really bad.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, and that's everything. That's the framework for every discussion,
for every that's how you can have you know, urine feces,
broken glass and needles and assaults and theft going on
all over the place in San Francisco downtown. And the
people of San Francisco are still kind of like, yeah,
but I'm a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's like, well, how could you still be? How could
you still do this? How could you still well?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Because we want everyone to feel good and be happy.
We don't want anyone to go to prison. We want
unhoused people to have everything for free. And Republicans are
basically Nazis, so that turns into everything.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I would also go back and say that this would
tie in with my original proposition. Maybe I'm strange in this.
I'm willing to change my mind. I've made bad decisions
in voting.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I vote.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I voted for Gary Johnson. I understand people out there
are like and we're still friends. That's a bad choice.
I made the wrong choice there. And I'm a fairly
highly educated voter.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
But can I tell you a truth about my voter
was real quick. My first ever vote was for George W.
Bush in two thousand and I remember, and like, I
went off to college and I hadn't really experienced and
people would have. I'm like, yeah, I voted for Bush.
And I remember that was my first taste of people
look at me like, what do you mean you voted
for Bush?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah? I was eighteen.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I was like, I mean, didn't we all like you
guys aren't idiots?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
You all voted for Bush?
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
That guy Gore is a clown? Right, like we all?
I voted.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Oh no, I voted for Gore, and I think most
people around our age probably did.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
But my point on this is, imagine.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
If you wake up every day and I would encourage
all of you do this and just think, what if
I'm wrong about this? And I would tell you what
I've seen buck. The people who are willing to even
consider that are the most successful in the country in
terms of financial success, because they learn from where they
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screwed up. They recognize their blind spots, and they are
better going forward than they would be if they just
live in San Francisco and say, oh, you know what,
I just got to deal with the fact that my
little girl might step on needles on the way to
the park. Maybe consider how this situation arose and weather
and this is also ultimately ultimate power. Whether your own
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choices help to make it a reality, and if so,
the first thing you can do is change your behavior
before you start looking at the external world and searching
for somebody to blame.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
There you go. There's my ted talk for the day.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
And I want to tell you as we roll into
the Olympics, I can't wait. Have you seen some of
these Olympics stories, Buck, You know that they're going to
try to swim in the sign Sin River, the main
river coming through Paris, even though it's filled with feces
right now, like this is one of the primary area.
(31:08):
Have you heard about this?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Ew? No, isn't this crazy?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I can't believe more people aren't talking about this. They
are planning to use the main river in Paris, which
many of you have probably been on if you've ever
visited Paris.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It's filthy. Nobody swims in it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
They tried to clean it up and turn it into
one of the Olympics swimming venues, and it's just it's
a mess. As we sit here, what like two weeks
away from the start of the Olympics. Reason why I
bring the Olympics up is you like the Olympics prize
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got a couple of calls. People want to weigh in
Buck on a variety of different topics. Bubba in Minneapolis.
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I'm gonna be honest with you, Bubba. I did not
expect Bubba to be from Minneapolis. That's not a combo. Birmingham,
New Orleans, Nashville, I can see the Bubba.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
How many Bubba's are there in Minneapolis.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Few and far between, fellas few and far between.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Got a lot of Franks Chattanooga though, So.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's a great place. What you got for us?
Speaker 7 (34:32):
My main main point in Colin is this thing has legs.
With Trump and the golf game, he could raise a
lot more money. Think of Super Bowl ads. Somebody they
donate all the ad money to this whole thing. But
my biggest thing is I got a draft pool. Okay,
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(34:56):
We want to see Carl from Caddyshack Number two. Pepper
Brooks on the Dodgeball movie. Yes, third and final, let's
go with Ron Burgundy Anchorman.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
That would be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I agree with I agree with Bubba from Minneapolis. This,
I think also shows here's the big problem that Democrats
have when it comes to issues like these. They have
no sense of humor. Buck When I read the Biden
teams response to Donald's.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Golf, they have no swagger at all. There's such a
bunch of dorks. Honestly, it's pre possible.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
It was like hearing the kid who just got hung
on the by his underwear on the leggies.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
They're not funny. Trump gave me a leggie and it's
not funny, And it's like, actually, Biden's team makes it funnier.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It was so tone death.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
They have a dementia patient for a candidate, but they
also just have a huge collection of loser, not very
fun people working on this campaign.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's my biggest takeaway.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Can we can we split Clay the uh the emails
on from WISN listeners on steak and restaurant recommendations from
Milwaukee because we've got about four hours of reading ahead
of us right now.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh yeah, I saw I saw this in the inbox.
Thank you all.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Carnivore, five o'clock Steakhouse, Eddie martiniz, Wow, we got a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
It is pretty fantastic. I can't wait to get up weather.
It looks like it's gonna be good. I was actually
checking today. It's hot everywhere else Milwaukee not bad. I'm
gonna eat some bracts brats.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Oh come on,
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