July 17, 2024 • 36 mins
Venture capitalist and podcast host David Sacks joins C&B to discuss Silicon Valley shifting to Donald Trump and how Elon Musk has begun to break the dam of social media censorship. Atmosphere at RNC is electric. Senator Dan Sullivan explains why the GOP winning the Senate is so important. Caitlin Sinclair of Turning Point USA closes out the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake Up with Len Berman and Michael Reid all weekday.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome Clay Travis buck Sexton show, our number three continuing
to roll here from Milwaukee. Encourage you to go check
out the podcast. The number of guests quality a guest
has been absolutely phenomenal breaking down everything. And we got
a brand new guest, as you probably could imagine, David
Sachs as a co host of the All in podcast,
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venture capitalist man who is trying to make San Francisco
willing to actually consider the idea of supporting Republican Donald Trump.
And I'll start off with this because for people out
there who don't know your background or your story, you
recently hosted I believe I'm correct, a twelve million dollar
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fundraiser in San Francisco for Donald Trump. Jd Vance, now
the vice presidential nominee, was one of the speakers.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
At that event.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm curious how you've come to meet Trump and what
you are seeing as a guy from the venture capital
technolog space is now it seems quite clear way more
responsiveness and receptiveness to Trump than anything we saw in
sixteen or twenty. Kind Of take us into your world
and what you think is going on.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, I think the dominoes are really falling right now.
You're seeing more and more support for Trump. Just yesterday,
Mark Andresen and Ben Horwitz, who are two very big
names in the world of tech and venture capital, just
announced they're going to be supporting Trump and helping to
fund some packs on his behalf. And there's been a
whole procession of people. Elon just came out the other
day in the wake of the shooting basically endorsed Trump.
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I mean, he was leaning that way, but he announced it.
I think Bill Lackman just came out. He's more of
a finance guy than a tech guy. But there's just
been a whole bunch of people who've come out. And
I do think that the fundraiser I did for Trump
on June six d day, coincidentally, it did help, you know,
break the ice a little bit in Silicon Valley because
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it is a pretty liberal place, but we managed to
kind of break the ice for him.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It's exciting to see how upset this makes some leftists.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
By the way, the fact that you.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Have anybody of the kind of name recognition yourself. People
from your podcast, the All In Podcast. Obviously, Peter Thiel's
been behind Trump a long time, but now having Elon
Musk and these other names, what do you think if
you had to pick an event or a series of
events that has pushed you and some others who are
like minded to openly endorsing Donald Trump, what would it be.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Was there a moment, was it more just a progression? Well?
I think for me, what drove me to Trump was issues.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, First and foremost, I thought that Biden's inflation
was a disaster for the economy and easily avoidable. It
happened because he printed trillions of dollars of unnecessary stimulus
even though the economy had recovered. So I thought his
economic policy was bad. I thought his foreign policy was bad.
We had peace under President Trump, and under President Biden
he's kind of lit the world on fire with a
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bad a bunch of very bad choices. So those things,
you know, and then the border situation was just glaring.
So those were some of the big issues that drove me.
And then the thing that put me over the top
was really the lawfair seeing, you know, President Biden try
to prosecute his political opponent seemed to me so un American,
so ridiculous, so outrageous, and the media is going along
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with it as if this is a normal think that
we can tolerate in the United States of America. That really,
you know, pushed me kind of over the top, saying
I got to do everything I can to stop this
because if Biden got away with it, then it's not
going to end there. I mean, once you weaponize the
justice system and prosecution, they start going after a lot
of people, and they have been going after more people.
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I mean, Elon's been a target of retaliation already for
making free speech legal again on Twitter X. So I
thought it was really important to draw a line and
not let this lawfare go any further by making sure
that Trump won this election.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So that pushed me over the top.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And you know, when we did the fundraiser in early
June in San Francisco, it was right on the heels
of the convictions in that, you know, what I think
was a total show trial and sham that's right, and
so you know, it really felt like that was kind
of the nadier. I mean, you had the media just
pumping out this like ridiculous message that he's a convicted from.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well and the brazeness, by the way to hold four
trials until the election year, involving conduct that is so
old and so deminimous by the way, that they had
to concoct some bizarre theory of extending the statute of limitations.
I mean, I've never even heard anyone try to explain
from a probability standpoint, how could you expect the public
to believe that all four of these trials just happened
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to happen in the.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Election year, right, Look, at most, that New York trial
was over and expired bookkeeping misdemeanor, and I don't even
think it was that. I don't think he did anything wrong,
But in any event, the convictions happened, and it felt
like that was like the bottom. And then President Trump
did this trip out where he stopped in San Francisco,
and then he went to southern California as well. But
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in San Francisco they were expecting protests, and the local
media had been pumping up his trip to basically get
the protesters to come out all week. And what turned
out is hundreds of people along his motorcate but cheering
for Trumps in San Francisco. Pro Trump demonstrators. Now, I
don't know if they all lived in San Francisco, or
they came from the whole Bay area, but they were
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definitely you know, Bay Area locals, and hundreds of people
came out cheering for him, and I think that was
the beginning of giving him a real boost. I mean,
I could tell that he appreciated it because he had
spent six weeks in a courtroom. So then, you know,
I think we blew the doors off with the event
we did. I mean, we originally said we're going to
do it. The goal was to hit five million dollars.
We ended up doing twelve, and then it grew to
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thirteen after and we had so many people packed in
for dinner that we just couldn't fit anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And a big part of that was people rebelling against
this lawfair saying this is not okay, and we're going
to support Trump in the face of this.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You've known Elon for a long time. You've been instrumental
in the reaction at Twitter and x to support free speech.
I'm curious what you see in San Francisco, how many
people that to me is the most important issue is
whatever you think, you should be able to argue it,
and we have to have a real marketplace of ideas
and a real center for debate. How many people get
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that in San Francisco? Is that growing? And how impactful
do you think Elon buying Twitter slash x has been
to the discourse that we're now having and also the
number of people who maybe weren't open to endorsing or
supporting Trump in a place like San Francisco. Seems like
there's a lot of blue areas now where there's a
lot of Trump support.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, I think Elon buying Twitter was absolutely huge and
essential because it stopped the momentum that the censorship movement had. Remember,
it wasn't just about the fact that they were censoring
all these accounts. You had people like Jay Botocharia, the
Stanford professor of medicine, who was censored for saying true
things about COVID not to mention people in politics being censored,
Trump being censored. So you had that problem, but the
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censorship was growing. You know, it felt like every month
there was a new category of thought and opinion that
you couldn't say, And I mean it was getting really bad.
And then Elon stepped in and said, no, I'm not
going to let this keep going, and he put his
you know, money where his mouth is and bought the
company and effectively what was a hostile takeover and immediately
set things right. I mean, he basically fired eighty five
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percent of the people and reopened the platform to free speech.
And that I think threw down the gauntlet for other
tech companies because now their censorship seems more egregious, So
they're not as free as x is, but they've kind
of been called out and they have to kind of
moderate their behavior a little bit. So I think Elon
basically saved free speech within the tech community. Now you
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ask the question, how many people support this? I think
there has always been a strong libertarian strand in tech,
and there's a lot of people in tech who might
be kind of liberal, let's say, on social issues or
other kind of issues, but they've always believed in free speech.
But those people had been kind of shouted down and
overwhelmed by the woke, aggressive left, which was using cancelation
tactics to go after anyone who didn't agree with them,
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and they created significant punishment essentially for opposing them, for
sticking your neck out for disagreeing with them, and they
had dominated the discourse I think until Elon bought X
and set it free.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
So what do you think comes next for some of
those major companies. Facebook YouTube obviously is incredibly important player
who says that his kids watch YouTube not television.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I got three boys the news, and.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
It feels like from the right it's not as completely
outrageous and egregious as it was during COVID in the
twenty twenty election, but it's still there.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
How can we reform some.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Of those entities so that they're at least a little
bit more willing to adhere to free speech principles or
is it just we have to build our own. We
just have to build our own and oppose their tactics.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, it's probably some combination of those things.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I'm also on the board of Rumble, which is creating
a free speech alternative to to YouTube. Yeah, exactly, So
I think you have to build alternatives. I mean, that's
the only way to really protect yourself. But then also
I think we got a you know kind of job
in these companies and let them know it's not okay,
take our business elsewhere if we can.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I mean, every conservative career like content creator that I
know now basically says they don't even they don't even
waste their time on Facebook, and ten years ago Facebook
was very important for conservatives.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You know a lot of these companies are are run
by people who aren't necessarily woke progressive, but just don't
want to stick their necks out, you know, they don't
below them. Also, we're going to come after that.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, they're basically intimidated by the woke employees inside their
own companies.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah. I mean they've kind of lost control to It's.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
The trojan horse situation where you bring in the people
that potentially destroy your business. Buck's asking a really important question.
Where we're going from here. I'm curious. We've talked a lot.
San Francisco is an amazing city, last should be an
amazing historically beautiful, geographically incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You've lived there for a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Have you considered leaving San Francisco but it's frustrated you
or because we got a lot of people listening to
us right now in California and they say, no, I
want to stay here and fight. Have you in your
mind internally sort of worked through that. As many people
out there who have the resources to be able to
live anywhere, you could live anywhere in the world. Are
you just committed, Hey, I'm going to fight this out
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and make San Francisco a place that is open to
ideas again, how would you assess it?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I've done both, you know, I have fought.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I think played a role in helping to get our
crazy DA recalled Jessup Boudin's like the super radical leftist
DA who just wanted to decarce rate that's all the
repeat offenders, legalized crime basically, basically, yeah. And then we
had another success in recalling the school board. We had
this crazy work school board. So those were some victories.
And now in the most recent city election, you got
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some moderates. Now, by national standards, these would still be
pretty liberal people, but by San Francisco standards.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And you've got a mayor race coming.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Up, right, and that's a big one, and it looks
like the moderate candidates are doing polling very well.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So I think there's a really good chance.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think that that San Francisco moves back towards more
center orientation. I mean, basically, the battle in San Francisco
is between liberals and communists.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yes, I mean literally, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And the communist has been winning for a long time.
But now I think the liberals are like, let's not
say the mainstream liberals, and I think, you know, that's
the city that you can still live in because at
least they'll be police, they'll be prosecution, there'll be some
business development. It's never going to be as good as
Florida or Texas, but it's going to be a lot
better than having it being run by commissars.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Do your Silicon Valley peers who haven't yet been red
pilled do they argue with you over oh, no, San
Francisco is doing great? Or are they just aware and
they refuse to admit, Like one thing we dealt with
on COVID was even when it was clear, And this
is how clan I actually met the first time was
over the COVID issue.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
We're both saying what they're doing is crazy. These things
are wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
They'd never admit that they were wrong, because that would
mean admitting that people like us were right in Silicon
Valley in San Francisco Bay Area. Are Are they just
refuse using to admit that people who are more to
the right have been correct or do they recognize that
that city has been run into the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know what I'm saying, yeah, I think I think
tech people generally are of the liberal faction rather than
the crazy communist faction, and so they're The recognition that
San Francisco has kind of gone off the rails is
pretty widespread in tech.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I mean, I remember if they're an editorial that said
you shouldn't call the cops when they're breaking into your
home to steal your bike or your or your a car,
just because that could be violence against people of color.
I remember, I think it was in the San Francisco
A Chronicle. I saw that, So.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, I mean, well, the whole state basically legalized shoplifting
under nine hundred and fifty dollars. But what happened is
they downgraded it from a felony to a misdemeanor. But
then all the das basically said, we're not prosecuting misdemeanors anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So it's effectively decriminalized theft.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And of course you don't really know what nine erd
and fifty dollars looks like when someone walks out of
your store, So now they can steal two thousand and
three thousand, and no one knows what to do, so
it just it created a situation of just total lawlessness.
But I think the people in tech actually they're more
on what I would call like the liberal side, not
the communist side. And in fact, tech people are demonized
in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
There's like this.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Hardcore they're like evil capitalists, right, yeah, basically, and they've
been They actually are happy when they drive a tech
company out of San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Like they just did with X. Oh my good just
announced yesterday he's moving to Texas. Yeah, you said, I'm
out of here with X. I'm out of here with SpaceX.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I mean, these are huge losses for San Francisco and
the state of California, and the reaction of a lot
of people on the sort of the side, the communist
side is kind of yeah good.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know, they're they're happy even though that's the tech space.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So you know, eventually these guys are gonna you know,
they're not They're gonna run out of money, but they
don't seem to get it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
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Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, great, Yes, you know the guy the announcer is
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Speaker 1 (15:40):
He did such a great job.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
But I feel like when we do the sort of atmospherics,
you end up finding yourself in a situation where you're
just saying these things that you say at all big events,
like the atmosphere is electric everybody and I can just
feel how it's going to be exciting tonight, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
But well, what's funny is where we are right now.
People like, so, we're in one arena that is different
than the main arena. But if we look up at
the circular like sort of JumboTron in the arena that
we're in now, if you're a sports fan, it's where
Wisconsin Milwaukee would play in downtown Milwaukee, the college.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
But they are.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Going through the on the inside of the main RNC.
You can watch the behind the scenes like audio testing,
like testing that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is going on college basketball.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
This is a college basketball arena that we are in
the four like we're on the basketball court. For people
out there who have ever watched Wisconsin Milwaukee, wh's had
a pretty successful basketball program over the years. We're in there,
wid Badgers or is that different? They are the Panthers,
I believe.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Oh, that's why we're in Panther arena. That would make sense.
I'm learning new things every day.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But they are.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
They are interesting, but it's kind of behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Wisconsin Madison is not University of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, they're the what's called a ship institution, so the
main universe of Wisconsin Badgers. But then they have other
cities that also have a U DUB and this would
be University of Wisconsin Milwaukee, which is in the center
part of the city where we are right now. And
then the RNC for those of you who are big
sports fans, is where the Milwaukee Bucks play. But these
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things are separated. What do you think by like a
quarter mile at most eighth of a mile? Oh yeah,
very close. Arenas side by side. But the reason I
bring it up is I think they're testing for not
only tonight, but potentially for Trump's big speech tomorrow, so
that they've got everything right associated with it.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So we're going to be joined by Senator Dan Sullivan
here in a few moments. Although it's always in flux
because people are coming by, we're seeing all sorts of
I saw our buddy Mike Lindella second.
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Ago just walked by.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
We're getting high fives all over the place, lots of
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Welcome back, Getting Klay Travis buck Sexton Show wins Day
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just talking all about Alaska because I want to make
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of salmon, grizzly bears, everywhere. Senator Dan Sullivan with us
right now. We've been talking about trying to help you
get a majority in the Senate and the impact that
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that could have. As you are looking here we sit
on Wednesday, getting ready for Trump's speech tomorrow. How optimistic
are you about Republicans being able to take back control
of the Senate And if it happens, how much better
does that make your job?
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:33):
My gosh, so much better. I mean, as let me
just begin as it relates to Alaska. The Trump administration.
President Trump was fantastic for our state in terms of
resource development, access to our lands, oil and gas development, mining,
which matters to Alaska, matters to America. Yeah, Biden came
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in and has reversed all that. So huge for my state.
But you saw last night some really great candidates, right,
Senate candidates. We have some of the best candidates we
fieled it in many years in It'll be close, but
I think we got a great opportunity take back the Senate,
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get President Trump in the White House, keep the House
and in the Senate boot and Chuck Schumer is majority leader.
You want to talk about important for America and Alaska.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That's huge.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
One thing that I think hasn't gotten enough attention is
the amount of damage in the judiciary that is being
done by the Biden administration. The number of radical left
and truly radical left wing judge is not people that
anybody could ever say our mainstream that have been put
on the federal bench that is. That is daunting when
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you look at the numbers. Also the very prominent DEI
push that they're open about. They say, we're putting people
for diversity and equity inclusion re in on the federal judiciary.
I mean, given what we've seen with the weaponization the
law fair of the j and within the judiciary against Trump,
I just feel like everyone should understand that's a big
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part of the stakes here too.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And the Senate obviously plays a critical role in that. Yeah, Buck,
that's huge.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
And you know, in the Senate we like to say,
of course we are focused on legislation, but we're also
in the personnel business. To your point, you know, where
the insurance policy for America. We of course want President
Trump to win, but god forbid Biden wins. We can
stop radical.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Judges, cabinet officials and judges.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And you're you're so right about and it's not getting
any press the amount of far left, really radical judges.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And Trump hating judges by the way or in the
mix there, and that's not an accident.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We remember they.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Have life tenure, right, And you know when Trump was
when President Trump was in the White House and we
had to control of the Senate, we did a great
job on judges, three Supreme Court justices. You saw that
Chevron decision last week, fifty four Court of Appeals judges.
But Biden is trying to make up and it's a
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really big issue.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
By the way, you are playing hurt here. You're doing
so much work to try to get Trump elected. For
people who can hear it in your voice, you've been
talking like crazy. So I want to give you an
opportunity here. Last question. Well, first of all, I need
to get your contact because my wife is adamant that
we come to Alaska. We were talking about off the air.
(22:40):
We've got a big listenership up there. I've never been.
I want to do a couple of shows in Alasta.
Let's do some shows in a last we need to
do shows at the last. It would be awesome to start.
But we love them too, and I want to come
see them in person. Okay, So JD. Vance, you're a marine.
Never had a marine on a ticket like this before
(23:01):
you just had you said, thirty years, I believe jad
came to your ceremony, my retirement, your retirement ceremony out
of the Marine Corps. What does it mean for you
to see a fellow Marine on the ticket? What can
you tell people who don't know women are still learning
about him, about JD. Vance and what he brings to
the ticket with Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
What it brings to me is, first, I love it right,
you know, I love all our service members. As a Marine,
we feel we're kind of a special group dedicated to
the ethos of semper fidelis always faithful. That's not just
a saying. That's a true way to live your life,
not just in the military, but throughout your life.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
He did that deployed to Iraq.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
You know, less than one percent of Americans volunteer to
serve in the military, and it also means someone who's
going to be very focused on a strong military. You
look at our platform, the Republican Party platform, it's all
about peace through strength. Peace through strength, that's critical and
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how much JD cares about veterans, which is a really important,
you know, element of American society. These are all things
that are I think are going to make him a
really strong vice presidential pick. But never had a marine
as vice president, never had a marine as president. So
it's about time America.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Seems like it is. Indeed today's National Security.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Day here at the end, it is the top national
security challenge concern.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That you see.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Well, look, one of the biggest differences between Republicans and Democrats,
Like I said, we are the peace through Strength party
that goes back to Teddy Roosevelt Reagan. Of course Trump
administration after Obama cut defense spending by twenty five percent.
His second term goded readiness. So it's not just the record,
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but particularly in certain areas of the world. I think
the Middle East, President Trump comes in, crushes Isis, re
establishes deterrence against the terrorist regime in Iran, kills Sulamani,
the biggest terrorists that the Iranians have, institutes the maximum
pressure campaign in terms of oil and gas, and launches
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a peace initiative. The Abraham of Courts. Biden comes in,
cuts our military, unleashes weakness in the Middle East, is
in chaos. Right now, Iran is on the march. And
I'll give you one stat it's really important. With the
sanctions that Trump put on end of the Trump administration,
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Iran at about four billion dollars in foreign reserves. That's
not a lot. Biden comes in liftso sanctions. Iran now
is about eighty billion in foreign reserves. Guess what they're
doing with that, funding Hezbala, funding Hamas, funding the HOUTHI,
and unleashing chaos. It's such a stark contrast between both
of these presidents, and this is where the American people
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need to support President Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Senator, we're gonna come up. We appreciate all of you
listening right now. In Alaska. I cannot wait to visit Buck.
You've been you want to do it again. Yeah, we're
coming good.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
We're gonna do you guys do some shows in Alaska.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
People will love it.
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Speaker 1 (27:45):
Welcome back to Play and Buck.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
We're closing up shop here today on the show, joined
by our friend pulled right off the RNC floor. That's correct,
sing Claire. Well, not off the floor, but from the floor, Kyl.
I know people were out late last night, but I
didn't mean to like that. Kaitlyn Sinclair with us. She's
a spokesperson for Turning Point USA, and it is always
good to see the RNC youth in attendance here. Yes,
(28:11):
I feel like we're our forties. We could say that
we got these young whipper snappers are around here that
are very fired up about Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Yes they are, but hey, forty is still young. Forties
are young, right? I consider that young.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
But yes, it's incredible and Turning Points of being such
great work.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
We're doing all of the grassroots stuff. Guys.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
We just launched our new gen Z coalition last week,
really encouraging young people to get involved.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
And look, they I think have.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Really realized how much they've been lied to, robbed of
their time. They're starting to ask the tough questions, challenge
a status quo. We have such incredible speakers like the
vagram Oswami for example, who is represents that young generation
and he is so inspiring to look up to and
I think this is a perfect event for young people
to get inspired and learn what we need to do
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to take this country back.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Are you seeing Because I'm seeing and I'm curious, young
men eighteen to twenty nine, it seems like are overwhelmingly
breaking towards Trump. That's what the data is reflecting. We're
seeing massive movements. In other words, young guys are saying,
you know, a lot of this left doing stuff is
just ridiculous, and they're overwhelmingly rejecting at white, Black, Asian, Hispanic.
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Are you seeing younger women too or do you think
there's a big gender divide? Because you're from the New
York City area and I want to get into one
thing that happened to you particularly, But in the New
York City area, it feels like in many parts of
the country, guys are coming around to Trump.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Girls still aren't. What are you seeing?
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I'm just gonna say it because I'm a female, I
think I can say this, but I think females are
responsible for the deterioration of our society.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Do not cancelate for that. But I really do believe
that the women need to wake up.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Why do you think women are not waking up like
men are.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
I think, just naturally we're emotional.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Right. You hear past rhetoric from Donald Trump that people
just still don't like these females that are just naturally emotional.
They have Trump Derangement syndrome, and they can't see past
that they had a president that promised unity, right to
be to be the president of bringing people together. And
I mean, I just don't think they can look past
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the Trump derangement syndrome and Orange man bad. So we're
leaving it up to the frat boys to save this country.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
I'm quite excited about this.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think you have them on tomorrow. I think we do.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Yeah, I am all about that, let me tell you.
And I think the men are realizing more than the
women right now that this is not an election, guys
between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. This is an election
between Trump JD. Van's versus Kamala Harris. And I think
the men are aware of how scary that is.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yes, the notion that Kamala Harris could at any point
be well, I was going to say commander in chief,
but then I realized she is the vice president, which
is scary enough as it is. And one thing we
always talk about is if Joe Biden, you know clan
I have these ongoing bets.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Oh, I know, I want to say.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
What kind of steak?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Or we got to the most expensive he can find,
you know, poppy steak?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Right, and the smoke and the guy's dancing, He's he's
taking me to the question is how many nights is
he taking me there?
Speaker 8 (31:16):
I better get an invite for one of these.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
So with all that going on, though, we're still wondering
to see what happens with Biden. But given how things
are going for Biden, why would anyone take over for
him from.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
The Democrat side?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
It feels like you're stepping into a game where you're
three touchdowns behind.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Oh, I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
We've been floating all of these ideas, right, like a
Gavin news Some taking over. There's the Gavin Newsom, first
of all, is in this for the long haul. There's
no way that he's going to put his own ego
aside and all of the work he thinks he's been
doing and and just quickly step in like that. He's
in it for the long haul. We all know Joe Biden,
this is all by design. I think the most troubling
part about this I've been trying to reflect on the
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past week alone. The troubling part about the media now
admitting that Joe Biden has, you know, having some obvious
cognitive decline, is the fact that it took the the
mainstream media, the establishment media, to tell half of the
American people how to think, to tell them, oh, now
we don't agree that this is a good candidate.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
So now you guys can agree with us as well.
What happened? There was no discernment here. What happened to
the art of thinking in this country?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Why? Why did it take half.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Of Americans to wait till the mainstream media told.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Them how to think to realize that our commander in
chief is clearly not a suitable candidate. And I think
that's the most troubling part about what we've seen.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Okay, I was just going to say, tell us about
what happened to you in New York City, because I
just mentioned that there is a obvious gender divide. But
you had a post that you put up on Instagram
and it went super viral, and they decided that your opinion,
your joke, was not allowed to be shared. I bets
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social class New York club belonged to Adams by the way,
is a.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Con mean mayor nightlife.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Theme? Fend yes he is. Yes.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
So what happened to me was I put up a
tongue in cheek post. It was it was a catchphrase
that said you were here because your dad is not queer.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
It was my Father's Day message.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
And I live in a very liberal city in New York,
New York, and it.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Was put in a funny way, in a funny.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Way on my personal social media pages, and it was
of course not meant to offend anyone. It was rooted
in a scientific facts, right, and that scares the left.
Now the social clubs. You're a bond which I belonged to,
which you've been a guest of mine before. We've had
some fun there, and the owners of the club have
(33:40):
actually in the past said to me that they appreciate
that I'm there. They need diversity in the club first perspective, right, right.
So honestly, I wasn't shocked at this, but I think
this just speaks to.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
The larger message what's happening in.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Crest Country to.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Provoked my membership, gentlemen, because they thought my post offended
the LGBTQ elementop community. And let me tell you this
happened only a few days before Zero Bond was hosting
a drag queen brunch at the club, which quite frankly
offends me as a paying member of the club. You
didn't see me complaining, right, So the same members that
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attend this club have been to pro hamas rallies. They
have posted hateful messages about Donald Trump on their private
social media pages. So the club Zero Bond claims they
want diversity, but only when it fits their agenda. And
again I've said this, this story really isn't about me
or Zero Bond, right, We're all too busy. I don't
have time honestly to attend any social clubs this year.
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But it's about it's a microcosm what's happening across the country.
I cannot tell you. It's thousands of messages I received me.
I mean, what am I doing?
Speaker 8 (34:49):
I have a small platform, But people were.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Thanking me for putting a message out there like that,
for being said fast and on wavering in my Christian
and conservative beliefs, and all I pos it was a
scientific fact, the fact that there are two genders, and
it takes a male and a female to procreate.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
What is wrong with that?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
And at first I was angry and a little upset,
But I'm not backing down. I'm not backing down from
scientific facts. New Yorkers reached out to me. New Yorkers
reached out to me. I was out in the Hamptons.
Strangers were coming up to me saying, we're not going
there anymore. Members actually revoked their membership after what happened
to me, saying, you kicked out a conservative for stating again,
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scientific facts. I don't want to be a part of
this club anymore. I think we're seeing a cultural shift
right now. I'm sure you guys are aware. If you're
paying attention, you can feel it out there. Americans are
fed up and they're not going to stand for this
double standard. And that's what's wrong here, right And that's
what I want the club to acknowledge. If you can't
accept me and my beliefs and scientific facts and my
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Christian or conservative beliefs, which again, some of these things
are written in the Bible, why should we have members
at attend pro hamas rallies being allowed to We just.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Need we just need to know, Okaylen, how long before
you move to Tennessee or Florida or maybe Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Texas could throw their hat in the ring too.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Oh boy, I'm getting to that point. I've always been
the New York or nowhere kind of girl, but I.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Used to be that guy.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Tell you, those taxes gotchagetcha.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
It's not fun. The taxes and the communists. It's not
a good combination. But Kaylen Clark, thank you as always
for coming to hang out turning point spokesperson.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Shall be here at the R and C with us.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And if you have kids or grandkids and you're listening
to us and you're trying to influence some turning point,
that's basically the goal, right to expose them to the
ideas of the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Absolutely, and again I think this we're at an interesting
time right now in political history where young people want
to get involved.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome Clay Travis buck Sexton show, our number three continuing
to roll here from Milwaukee. Encourage you to go check
out the podcast. The number of guests quality a guest
has been absolutely phenomenal breaking down everything. And we got
a brand new guest, as you probably could imagine, David
Sachs as a co host of the All in podcast,
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venture capitalist man who is trying to make San Francisco
willing to actually consider the idea of supporting Republican Donald Trump.
And I'll start off with this because for people out
there who don't know your background or your story, you
recently hosted I believe I'm correct, a twelve million dollar
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fundraiser in San Francisco for Donald Trump. Jd Vance, now
the vice presidential nominee, was one of the speakers.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
At that event.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm curious how you've come to meet Trump and what
you are seeing as a guy from the venture capital
technolog space is now it seems quite clear way more
responsiveness and receptiveness to Trump than anything we saw in
sixteen or twenty. Kind Of take us into your world
and what you think is going on.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, I think the dominoes are really falling right now.
You're seeing more and more support for Trump. Just yesterday,
Mark Andresen and Ben Horwitz, who are two very big
names in the world of tech and venture capital, just
announced they're going to be supporting Trump and helping to
fund some packs on his behalf. And there's been a
whole procession of people. Elon just came out the other
day in the wake of the shooting basically endorsed Trump.
(01:35):
I mean, he was leaning that way, but he announced it.
I think Bill Lackman just came out. He's more of
a finance guy than a tech guy. But there's just
been a whole bunch of people who've come out. And
I do think that the fundraiser I did for Trump
on June six d day, coincidentally, it did help, you know,
break the ice a little bit in Silicon Valley because
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it is a pretty liberal place, but we managed to
kind of break the ice for him.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It's exciting to see how upset this makes some leftists.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
By the way, the fact that you.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Have anybody of the kind of name recognition yourself. People
from your podcast, the All In Podcast. Obviously, Peter Thiel's
been behind Trump a long time, but now having Elon
Musk and these other names, what do you think if
you had to pick an event or a series of
events that has pushed you and some others who are
like minded to openly endorsing Donald Trump, what would it be.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Was there a moment, was it more just a progression? Well?
I think for me, what drove me to Trump was issues.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, First and foremost, I thought that Biden's inflation
was a disaster for the economy and easily avoidable. It
happened because he printed trillions of dollars of unnecessary stimulus
even though the economy had recovered. So I thought his
economic policy was bad. I thought his foreign policy was bad.
We had peace under President Trump, and under President Biden
he's kind of lit the world on fire with a
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bad a bunch of very bad choices. So those things,
you know, and then the border situation was just glaring.
So those were some of the big issues that drove me.
And then the thing that put me over the top
was really the lawfair seeing, you know, President Biden try
to prosecute his political opponent seemed to me so un American,
so ridiculous, so outrageous, and the media is going along
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with it as if this is a normal think that
we can tolerate in the United States of America. That really,
you know, pushed me kind of over the top, saying
I got to do everything I can to stop this
because if Biden got away with it, then it's not
going to end there. I mean, once you weaponize the
justice system and prosecution, they start going after a lot
of people, and they have been going after more people.
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I mean, Elon's been a target of retaliation already for
making free speech legal again on Twitter X. So I
thought it was really important to draw a line and
not let this lawfare go any further by making sure
that Trump won this election.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So that pushed me over the top.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And you know, when we did the fundraiser in early
June in San Francisco, it was right on the heels
of the convictions in that, you know, what I think
was a total show trial and sham that's right, and
so you know, it really felt like that was kind
of the nadier. I mean, you had the media just
pumping out this like ridiculous message that he's a convicted from.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well and the brazeness, by the way to hold four
trials until the election year, involving conduct that is so
old and so deminimous by the way, that they had
to concoct some bizarre theory of extending the statute of limitations.
I mean, I've never even heard anyone try to explain
from a probability standpoint, how could you expect the public
to believe that all four of these trials just happened
(04:37):
to happen in the.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Election year, right, Look, at most, that New York trial
was over and expired bookkeeping misdemeanor, and I don't even
think it was that. I don't think he did anything wrong,
But in any event, the convictions happened, and it felt
like that was like the bottom. And then President Trump
did this trip out where he stopped in San Francisco,
and then he went to southern California as well. But
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in San Francisco they were expecting protests, and the local
media had been pumping up his trip to basically get
the protesters to come out all week. And what turned
out is hundreds of people along his motorcate but cheering
for Trumps in San Francisco. Pro Trump demonstrators. Now, I
don't know if they all lived in San Francisco, or
they came from the whole Bay area, but they were
(05:19):
definitely you know, Bay Area locals, and hundreds of people
came out cheering for him, and I think that was
the beginning of giving him a real boost. I mean,
I could tell that he appreciated it because he had
spent six weeks in a courtroom. So then, you know,
I think we blew the doors off with the event
we did. I mean, we originally said we're going to
do it. The goal was to hit five million dollars.
We ended up doing twelve, and then it grew to
(05:40):
thirteen after and we had so many people packed in
for dinner that we just couldn't fit anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And a big part of that was people rebelling against
this lawfair saying this is not okay, and we're going
to support Trump in the face of this.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You've known Elon for a long time. You've been instrumental
in the reaction at Twitter and x to support free speech.
I'm curious what you see in San Francisco, how many
people that to me is the most important issue is
whatever you think, you should be able to argue it,
and we have to have a real marketplace of ideas
and a real center for debate. How many people get
(06:15):
that in San Francisco? Is that growing? And how impactful
do you think Elon buying Twitter slash x has been
to the discourse that we're now having and also the
number of people who maybe weren't open to endorsing or
supporting Trump in a place like San Francisco. Seems like
there's a lot of blue areas now where there's a
lot of Trump support.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, I think Elon buying Twitter was absolutely huge and
essential because it stopped the momentum that the censorship movement had. Remember,
it wasn't just about the fact that they were censoring
all these accounts. You had people like Jay Botocharia, the
Stanford professor of medicine, who was censored for saying true
things about COVID not to mention people in politics being censored,
Trump being censored. So you had that problem, but the
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censorship was growing. You know, it felt like every month
there was a new category of thought and opinion that
you couldn't say, And I mean it was getting really bad.
And then Elon stepped in and said, no, I'm not
going to let this keep going, and he put his
you know, money where his mouth is and bought the
company and effectively what was a hostile takeover and immediately
set things right. I mean, he basically fired eighty five
(07:22):
percent of the people and reopened the platform to free speech.
And that I think threw down the gauntlet for other
tech companies because now their censorship seems more egregious, So
they're not as free as x is, but they've kind
of been called out and they have to kind of
moderate their behavior a little bit. So I think Elon
basically saved free speech within the tech community. Now you
(07:42):
ask the question, how many people support this? I think
there has always been a strong libertarian strand in tech,
and there's a lot of people in tech who might
be kind of liberal, let's say, on social issues or
other kind of issues, but they've always believed in free speech.
But those people had been kind of shouted down and
overwhelmed by the woke, aggressive left, which was using cancelation
tactics to go after anyone who didn't agree with them,
(08:05):
and they created significant punishment essentially for opposing them, for
sticking your neck out for disagreeing with them, and they
had dominated the discourse I think until Elon bought X
and set it free.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
So what do you think comes next for some of
those major companies. Facebook YouTube obviously is incredibly important player
who says that his kids watch YouTube not television.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I got three boys the news, and.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
It feels like from the right it's not as completely
outrageous and egregious as it was during COVID in the
twenty twenty election, but it's still there.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
How can we reform some.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Of those entities so that they're at least a little
bit more willing to adhere to free speech principles or
is it just we have to build our own. We
just have to build our own and oppose their tactics.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, it's probably some combination of those things.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I'm also on the board of Rumble, which is creating
a free speech alternative to to YouTube. Yeah, exactly, So
I think you have to build alternatives. I mean, that's
the only way to really protect yourself. But then also
I think we got a you know kind of job
in these companies and let them know it's not okay,
take our business elsewhere if we can.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I mean, every conservative career like content creator that I
know now basically says they don't even they don't even
waste their time on Facebook, and ten years ago Facebook
was very important for conservatives.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You know a lot of these companies are are run
by people who aren't necessarily woke progressive, but just don't
want to stick their necks out, you know, they don't
below them. Also, we're going to come after that.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, they're basically intimidated by the woke employees inside their
own companies.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah. I mean they've kind of lost control to It's.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
The trojan horse situation where you bring in the people
that potentially destroy your business. Buck's asking a really important question.
Where we're going from here. I'm curious. We've talked a lot.
San Francisco is an amazing city, last should be an
amazing historically beautiful, geographically incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You've lived there for a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Have you considered leaving San Francisco but it's frustrated you
or because we got a lot of people listening to
us right now in California and they say, no, I
want to stay here and fight. Have you in your
mind internally sort of worked through that. As many people
out there who have the resources to be able to
live anywhere, you could live anywhere in the world. Are
you just committed, Hey, I'm going to fight this out
(10:17):
and make San Francisco a place that is open to
ideas again, how would you assess it?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I've done both, you know, I have fought.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I think played a role in helping to get our
crazy DA recalled Jessup Boudin's like the super radical leftist
DA who just wanted to decarce rate that's all the
repeat offenders, legalized crime basically, basically, yeah. And then we
had another success in recalling the school board. We had
this crazy work school board. So those were some victories.
And now in the most recent city election, you got
(10:47):
some moderates. Now, by national standards, these would still be
pretty liberal people, but by San Francisco standards.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And you've got a mayor race coming.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Up, right, and that's a big one, and it looks
like the moderate candidates are doing polling very well.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So I think there's a really good chance.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think that that San Francisco moves back towards more
center orientation. I mean, basically, the battle in San Francisco
is between liberals and communists.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yes, I mean literally, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And the communist has been winning for a long time.
But now I think the liberals are like, let's not
say the mainstream liberals, and I think, you know, that's
the city that you can still live in because at
least they'll be police, they'll be prosecution, there'll be some
business development. It's never going to be as good as
Florida or Texas, but it's going to be a lot
better than having it being run by commissars.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Do your Silicon Valley peers who haven't yet been red
pilled do they argue with you over oh, no, San
Francisco is doing great? Or are they just aware and
they refuse to admit, Like one thing we dealt with
on COVID was even when it was clear, And this
is how clan I actually met the first time was
over the COVID issue.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
We're both saying what they're doing is crazy. These things
are wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
They'd never admit that they were wrong, because that would
mean admitting that people like us were right in Silicon
Valley in San Francisco Bay Area. Are Are they just
refuse using to admit that people who are more to
the right have been correct or do they recognize that
that city has been run into the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know what I'm saying, yeah, I think I think
tech people generally are of the liberal faction rather than
the crazy communist faction, and so they're The recognition that
San Francisco has kind of gone off the rails is
pretty widespread in tech.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I mean, I remember if they're an editorial that said
you shouldn't call the cops when they're breaking into your
home to steal your bike or your or your a car,
just because that could be violence against people of color.
I remember, I think it was in the San Francisco
A Chronicle. I saw that, So.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, I mean, well, the whole state basically legalized shoplifting
under nine hundred and fifty dollars. But what happened is
they downgraded it from a felony to a misdemeanor. But
then all the das basically said, we're not prosecuting misdemeanors anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So it's effectively decriminalized theft.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And of course you don't really know what nine erd
and fifty dollars looks like when someone walks out of
your store, So now they can steal two thousand and
three thousand, and no one knows what to do, so
it just it created a situation of just total lawlessness.
But I think the people in tech actually they're more
on what I would call like the liberal side, not
the communist side. And in fact, tech people are demonized
in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
There's like this.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Hardcore they're like evil capitalists, right, yeah, basically, and they've
been They actually are happy when they drive a tech
company out of San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Like they just did with X. Oh my good just
announced yesterday he's moving to Texas. Yeah, you said, I'm
out of here with X. I'm out of here with SpaceX.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I mean, these are huge losses for San Francisco and
the state of California, and the reaction of a lot
of people on the sort of the side, the communist
side is kind of yeah good.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know, they're they're happy even though that's the tech space.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So you know, eventually these guys are gonna you know,
they're not They're gonna run out of money, but they
don't seem to get it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Clay, we got to send some of these communists chalk.
By the way, David Sas, thank you so much for
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Speaker 4 (15:12):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck Man play time is
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Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, did you ever see a best in Show?
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, great, Yes, you know the guy the announcer is
really he should get more credit. The announcer at the
actual version of the Westminster Dog Show is named Buck Remember,
and he's I think he's one of the best parts
of the whole thing. He's like, I used to be
able to bench press five hundred, deadlift fifteen hundred, Like
it was crazy what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
He did such a great job.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
But I feel like when we do the sort of atmospherics,
you end up finding yourself in a situation where you're
just saying these things that you say at all big events,
like the atmosphere is electric everybody and I can just
feel how it's going to be exciting tonight, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
But well, what's funny is where we are right now.
People like, so, we're in one arena that is different
than the main arena. But if we look up at
the circular like sort of JumboTron in the arena that
we're in now, if you're a sports fan, it's where
Wisconsin Milwaukee would play in downtown Milwaukee, the college.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
But they are.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Going through the on the inside of the main RNC.
You can watch the behind the scenes like audio testing,
like testing that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is going on college basketball.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
This is a college basketball arena that we are in
the four like we're on the basketball court. For people
out there who have ever watched Wisconsin Milwaukee, wh's had
a pretty successful basketball program over the years. We're in there,
wid Badgers or is that different? They are the Panthers,
I believe.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Oh, that's why we're in Panther arena. That would make sense.
I'm learning new things every day.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But they are.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
They are interesting, but it's kind of behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Wisconsin Madison is not University of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, they're the what's called a ship institution, so the
main universe of Wisconsin Badgers. But then they have other
cities that also have a U DUB and this would
be University of Wisconsin Milwaukee, which is in the center
part of the city where we are right now. And
then the RNC for those of you who are big
sports fans, is where the Milwaukee Bucks play. But these
(17:17):
things are separated. What do you think by like a
quarter mile at most eighth of a mile? Oh yeah,
very close. Arenas side by side. But the reason I
bring it up is I think they're testing for not
only tonight, but potentially for Trump's big speech tomorrow, so
that they've got everything right associated with it.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So we're going to be joined by Senator Dan Sullivan
here in a few moments. Although it's always in flux
because people are coming by, we're seeing all sorts of
I saw our buddy Mike Lindella second.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Ago just walked by.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
We're getting high fives all over the place, lots of
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Welcome back, Getting Klay Travis buck Sexton Show wins Day
edition of the program. We are joined now by We're
just talking all about Alaska because I want to make
a trip up there. Buck's ben he caught a lot
of salmon, grizzly bears, everywhere. Senator Dan Sullivan with us
right now. We've been talking about trying to help you
get a majority in the Senate and the impact that
(19:17):
that could have. As you are looking here we sit
on Wednesday, getting ready for Trump's speech tomorrow. How optimistic
are you about Republicans being able to take back control
of the Senate And if it happens, how much better
does that make your job?
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:33):
My gosh, so much better. I mean, as let me
just begin as it relates to Alaska. The Trump administration.
President Trump was fantastic for our state in terms of
resource development, access to our lands, oil and gas development, mining,
which matters to Alaska, matters to America. Yeah, Biden came
(19:55):
in and has reversed all that. So huge for my state.
But you saw last night some really great candidates, right,
Senate candidates. We have some of the best candidates we
fieled it in many years in It'll be close, but
I think we got a great opportunity take back the Senate,
(20:19):
get President Trump in the White House, keep the House
and in the Senate boot and Chuck Schumer is majority leader.
You want to talk about important for America and Alaska.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That's huge.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
One thing that I think hasn't gotten enough attention is
the amount of damage in the judiciary that is being
done by the Biden administration. The number of radical left
and truly radical left wing judge is not people that
anybody could ever say our mainstream that have been put
on the federal bench that is. That is daunting when
(20:49):
you look at the numbers. Also the very prominent DEI
push that they're open about. They say, we're putting people
for diversity and equity inclusion re in on the federal judiciary.
I mean, given what we've seen with the weaponization the
law fair of the j and within the judiciary against Trump,
I just feel like everyone should understand that's a big
(21:11):
part of the stakes here too.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And the Senate obviously plays a critical role in that. Yeah, Buck,
that's huge.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
And you know, in the Senate we like to say,
of course we are focused on legislation, but we're also
in the personnel business. To your point, you know, where
the insurance policy for America. We of course want President
Trump to win, but god forbid Biden wins. We can
stop radical.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Judges, cabinet officials and judges.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And you're you're so right about and it's not getting
any press the amount of far left, really radical judges.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And Trump hating judges by the way or in the
mix there, and that's not an accident.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We remember they.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Have life tenure, right, And you know when Trump was
when President Trump was in the White House and we
had to control of the Senate, we did a great
job on judges, three Supreme Court justices. You saw that
Chevron decision last week, fifty four Court of Appeals judges.
But Biden is trying to make up and it's a
(22:18):
really big issue.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
By the way, you are playing hurt here. You're doing
so much work to try to get Trump elected. For
people who can hear it in your voice, you've been
talking like crazy. So I want to give you an
opportunity here. Last question. Well, first of all, I need
to get your contact because my wife is adamant that
we come to Alaska. We were talking about off the air.
(22:40):
We've got a big listenership up there. I've never been.
I want to do a couple of shows in Alasta.
Let's do some shows in a last we need to
do shows at the last. It would be awesome to start.
But we love them too, and I want to come
see them in person. Okay, So JD. Vance, you're a marine.
Never had a marine on a ticket like this before
(23:01):
you just had you said, thirty years, I believe jad
came to your ceremony, my retirement, your retirement ceremony out
of the Marine Corps. What does it mean for you
to see a fellow Marine on the ticket? What can
you tell people who don't know women are still learning
about him, about JD. Vance and what he brings to
the ticket with Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
What it brings to me is, first, I love it right,
you know, I love all our service members. As a Marine,
we feel we're kind of a special group dedicated to
the ethos of semper fidelis always faithful. That's not just
a saying. That's a true way to live your life,
not just in the military, but throughout your life.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
He did that deployed to Iraq.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
You know, less than one percent of Americans volunteer to
serve in the military, and it also means someone who's
going to be very focused on a strong military. You
look at our platform, the Republican Party platform, it's all
about peace through strength. Peace through strength, that's critical and
(24:08):
how much JD cares about veterans, which is a really important,
you know, element of American society. These are all things
that are I think are going to make him a
really strong vice presidential pick. But never had a marine
as vice president, never had a marine as president. So
it's about time America.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Seems like it is. Indeed today's National Security.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Day here at the end, it is the top national
security challenge concern.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That you see.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Well, look, one of the biggest differences between Republicans and Democrats,
Like I said, we are the peace through Strength party
that goes back to Teddy Roosevelt Reagan. Of course Trump
administration after Obama cut defense spending by twenty five percent.
His second term goded readiness. So it's not just the record,
(25:01):
but particularly in certain areas of the world. I think
the Middle East, President Trump comes in, crushes Isis, re
establishes deterrence against the terrorist regime in Iran, kills Sulamani,
the biggest terrorists that the Iranians have, institutes the maximum
pressure campaign in terms of oil and gas, and launches
(25:24):
a peace initiative. The Abraham of Courts. Biden comes in,
cuts our military, unleashes weakness in the Middle East, is
in chaos. Right now, Iran is on the march. And
I'll give you one stat it's really important. With the
sanctions that Trump put on end of the Trump administration,
(25:45):
Iran at about four billion dollars in foreign reserves. That's
not a lot. Biden comes in liftso sanctions. Iran now
is about eighty billion in foreign reserves. Guess what they're
doing with that, funding Hezbala, funding Hamas, funding the HOUTHI,
and unleashing chaos. It's such a stark contrast between both
of these presidents, and this is where the American people
(26:09):
need to support President Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Senator, we're gonna come up. We appreciate all of you
listening right now. In Alaska. I cannot wait to visit Buck.
You've been you want to do it again. Yeah, we're
coming good.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
We're gonna do you guys do some shows in Alaska.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
People will love it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, it'll be a lot of fun. Thank you for
the time. Thank you for playing hurt. Save that voice up.
We need a lot of help everybody does to make
sure that you have the majority all over the United
States Senate.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Really important. Thanks you guys. Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (27:45):
Welcome back to Play and Buck.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
We're closing up shop here today on the show, joined
by our friend pulled right off the RNC floor. That's correct,
sing Claire. Well, not off the floor, but from the floor, Kyl.
I know people were out late last night, but I
didn't mean to like that. Kaitlyn Sinclair with us. She's
a spokesperson for Turning Point USA, and it is always
good to see the RNC youth in attendance here. Yes,
(28:11):
I feel like we're our forties. We could say that
we got these young whipper snappers are around here that
are very fired up about Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Yes they are, but hey, forty is still young. Forties
are young, right? I consider that young.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
But yes, it's incredible and Turning Points of being such
great work.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
We're doing all of the grassroots stuff. Guys.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
We just launched our new gen Z coalition last week,
really encouraging young people to get involved.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
And look, they I think have.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Really realized how much they've been lied to, robbed of
their time. They're starting to ask the tough questions, challenge
a status quo. We have such incredible speakers like the
vagram Oswami for example, who is represents that young generation
and he is so inspiring to look up to and
I think this is a perfect event for young people
to get inspired and learn what we need to do
(28:55):
to take this country back.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Are you seeing Because I'm seeing and I'm curious, young
men eighteen to twenty nine, it seems like are overwhelmingly
breaking towards Trump. That's what the data is reflecting. We're
seeing massive movements. In other words, young guys are saying,
you know, a lot of this left doing stuff is
just ridiculous, and they're overwhelmingly rejecting at white, Black, Asian, Hispanic.
(29:19):
Are you seeing younger women too or do you think
there's a big gender divide? Because you're from the New
York City area and I want to get into one
thing that happened to you particularly, But in the New
York City area, it feels like in many parts of
the country, guys are coming around to Trump.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Girls still aren't. What are you seeing?
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I'm just gonna say it because I'm a female, I
think I can say this, but I think females are
responsible for the deterioration of our society.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Do not cancelate for that. But I really do believe
that the women need to wake up.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Why do you think women are not waking up like
men are.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
I think, just naturally we're emotional.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Right. You hear past rhetoric from Donald Trump that people
just still don't like these females that are just naturally emotional.
They have Trump Derangement syndrome, and they can't see past
that they had a president that promised unity, right to
be to be the president of bringing people together. And
I mean, I just don't think they can look past
(30:17):
the Trump derangement syndrome and Orange man bad. So we're
leaving it up to the frat boys to save this country.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
I'm quite excited about this.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think you have them on tomorrow. I think we do.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Yeah, I am all about that, let me tell you.
And I think the men are realizing more than the
women right now that this is not an election, guys
between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. This is an election
between Trump JD. Van's versus Kamala Harris. And I think
the men are aware of how scary that is.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yes, the notion that Kamala Harris could at any point
be well, I was going to say commander in chief,
but then I realized she is the vice president, which
is scary enough as it is. And one thing we
always talk about is if Joe Biden, you know clan
I have these ongoing bets.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Oh, I know, I want to say.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
What kind of steak?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Or we got to the most expensive he can find,
you know, poppy steak?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Right, and the smoke and the guy's dancing, He's he's
taking me to the question is how many nights is
he taking me there?
Speaker 8 (31:16):
I better get an invite for one of these.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
So with all that going on, though, we're still wondering
to see what happens with Biden. But given how things
are going for Biden, why would anyone take over for
him from.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
The Democrat side?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
It feels like you're stepping into a game where you're
three touchdowns behind.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Oh, I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
We've been floating all of these ideas, right, like a
Gavin news Some taking over. There's the Gavin Newsom, first
of all, is in this for the long haul. There's
no way that he's going to put his own ego
aside and all of the work he thinks he's been
doing and and just quickly step in like that. He's
in it for the long haul. We all know Joe Biden,
this is all by design. I think the most troubling
part about this I've been trying to reflect on the
(31:53):
past week alone. The troubling part about the media now
admitting that Joe Biden has, you know, having some obvious
cognitive decline, is the fact that it took the the
mainstream media, the establishment media, to tell half of the
American people how to think, to tell them, oh, now
we don't agree that this is a good candidate.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
So now you guys can agree with us as well.
What happened? There was no discernment here. What happened to
the art of thinking in this country?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Why? Why did it take half.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Of Americans to wait till the mainstream media told.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Them how to think to realize that our commander in
chief is clearly not a suitable candidate. And I think
that's the most troubling part about what we've seen.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Okay, I was just going to say, tell us about
what happened to you in New York City, because I
just mentioned that there is a obvious gender divide. But
you had a post that you put up on Instagram
and it went super viral, and they decided that your opinion,
your joke, was not allowed to be shared. I bets
(32:54):
social class New York club belonged to Adams by the way,
is a.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Con mean mayor nightlife.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Theme? Fend yes he is. Yes.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
So what happened to me was I put up a
tongue in cheek post. It was it was a catchphrase
that said you were here because your dad is not queer.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
It was my Father's Day message.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
And I live in a very liberal city in New York,
New York, and it.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Was put in a funny way, in a funny.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Way on my personal social media pages, and it was
of course not meant to offend anyone. It was rooted
in a scientific facts, right, and that scares the left.
Now the social clubs. You're a bond which I belonged to,
which you've been a guest of mine before. We've had
some fun there, and the owners of the club have
(33:40):
actually in the past said to me that they appreciate
that I'm there. They need diversity in the club first perspective, right, right.
So honestly, I wasn't shocked at this, but I think
this just speaks to.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
The larger message what's happening in.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Crest Country to.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Provoked my membership, gentlemen, because they thought my post offended
the LGBTQ elementop community. And let me tell you this
happened only a few days before Zero Bond was hosting
a drag queen brunch at the club, which quite frankly
offends me as a paying member of the club. You
didn't see me complaining, right, So the same members that
(34:19):
attend this club have been to pro hamas rallies. They
have posted hateful messages about Donald Trump on their private
social media pages. So the club Zero Bond claims they
want diversity, but only when it fits their agenda. And
again I've said this, this story really isn't about me
or Zero Bond, right, We're all too busy. I don't
have time honestly to attend any social clubs this year.
(34:40):
But it's about it's a microcosm what's happening across the country.
I cannot tell you. It's thousands of messages I received me.
I mean, what am I doing?
Speaker 8 (34:49):
I have a small platform, But people were.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Thanking me for putting a message out there like that,
for being said fast and on wavering in my Christian
and conservative beliefs, and all I pos it was a
scientific fact, the fact that there are two genders, and
it takes a male and a female to procreate.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
What is wrong with that?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
And at first I was angry and a little upset,
But I'm not backing down. I'm not backing down from
scientific facts. New Yorkers reached out to me. New Yorkers
reached out to me. I was out in the Hamptons.
Strangers were coming up to me saying, we're not going
there anymore. Members actually revoked their membership after what happened
to me, saying, you kicked out a conservative for stating again,
(35:29):
scientific facts. I don't want to be a part of
this club anymore. I think we're seeing a cultural shift
right now. I'm sure you guys are aware. If you're
paying attention, you can feel it out there. Americans are
fed up and they're not going to stand for this
double standard. And that's what's wrong here, right And that's
what I want the club to acknowledge. If you can't
accept me and my beliefs and scientific facts and my
(35:49):
Christian or conservative beliefs, which again, some of these things
are written in the Bible, why should we have members
at attend pro hamas rallies being allowed to We just.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Need we just need to know, Okaylen, how long before
you move to Tennessee or Florida or maybe Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Texas could throw their hat in the ring too.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Oh boy, I'm getting to that point. I've always been
the New York or nowhere kind of girl, but I.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Used to be that guy.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Tell you, those taxes gotchagetcha.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
It's not fun. The taxes and the communists. It's not
a good combination. But Kaylen Clark, thank you as always
for coming to hang out turning point spokesperson.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Shall be here at the R and C with us.
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And if you have kids or grandkids and you're listening
to us and you're trying to influence some turning point,
that's basically the goal, right to expose them to the
ideas of the Republican Party.
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Absolutely, and again I think this we're at an interesting
time right now in political history where young people want
to get involved.
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