July 19, 2024 • 36 mins
Trump's RNC speech wraps unified, successful home run convention. Biden still digging in amidst calls to drop out. Mark Zuckerberg praises Trump's reaction to shooting. What's the incentive for Biden to step aside? Kamala has less appeal than Biden in Midwest battleground states. Who wants to step in and go against Trump now? C&B take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Friday edition of
the program.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We appreciate all of you.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
The Republican National Convention officially complete, absolute home run for
the RNC, for the Republican Party, for Donald Trump, well organized, unifying,
and now all of the focus moves back to Buck
(00:30):
Island and Joe Biden and the disunity that is on
the side of the Democrat Party. But I thought last night,
particularly in the first thirty or forty five minutes of
what I found to be a captivating beginning of his speech.
To be fair, I thought he could have cut off
Donald Trump a half hour of the speech and it
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would have been as effective or even potentially more effective.
But I thought the first thirty or forty five minutes,
which is when the vast majority of people on the
East Coast are awake and paying attention, I thought it
was an absolute home run for Donald Trump. And as
we sit here now on the Friday after the RNC,
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it feels like Republicans have solidified their lead and now
Democrats are in scramble mode to figure out what they're
going to be capable of.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I don't know about you, and maybe it's just our age,
but Hulk Hogan ripping off his shirt at the RNC,
to me, was one of the most incredibly iconic moments,
and I thought it personified for me what has become
true in this election cycle, which I think many of
you feel but hadn't quite crystallized until now. Trump has
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become the cooler, younger, hipper candidate than anything the Democrats
are offering right now. And I thought some of I
understand some of you are not Hid Rock fans, and
maybe some of you didn't like Dana White, and maybe
you didn't like Hulk Hogan, but I'm telling you, if
you're in your twenties or thirties, you probably did. And
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I don't remember a situation like this where Republicans have
come out this unified in the twenty first century. How
did you take sort of the whole four days? Now
as we can textualize and contemplate what happened here in Milwaukee,
I don't think the RNC could have gone any better
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on a political front. On the logistics side of things,
I think they did a phenomenal job. I think that
it was much more meaningful and honestly emotional than any
of us had anticipated. Because of what had happened to
President Trump? When you looked around last night, in the
first the first twenty or thirty minutes of the speech
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was truly moving. I not somebody who feels a lot
of stirring emotions because of political speeches, and I was
watching it and just saying to myself, oh my gosh,
it's a reminder of what could have been. And you
looked around that crowd play and people were tearing up
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just as Trump was describing what happened, and I just
think that there was I'll tell you this, so many
of our people, and one of the night one of
the nicest things for us is that we get to
see so many of our listeners, which is great. I mean,
it's only a small fraction of the overall listeners were
very blessed. But to just see our people and have
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them want to talk to us and say they appreciate
the show and say that Rush would be proud, and
that always makes us feel really good. We had so
many of those people, so many of you saying that
to us who were there, but also going around and
seeing our media colleagues play. Everybody had this sense of
gratitude and destiny. That's what I would say gratitude for
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the miracle of Donald Trump being Okay. I feel like
every day at that RNC you just had to think
to yourself, what would have happened, what could have what
almost did happen? And then the fact that it was
a true celebration. There was a lot of gratitude, a
lot of gratitude for that, and then the sense of
destiny just that this is now a United Republican Party
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and a party that is already seeming to be looking
to the future for what can be accomplished, much more
so than it is bogged down in the trench warfare
of the election, so to speak. And so anyway, I
thought it was I thought it was really really special,
and I was very glad that we were there and
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able to see everybody. And I just think that Trump's
speech last night it went beyond political clad, do you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It wasn't just a stump speech.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It was a gut check moment for the country, and
it was stirring to the soul to hear Donald Trump
speak about what he faced and the perspective that he
has now on life and on his mission. So honestly,
I thought it was magnificent. I thought it was incredibly powerful.
(05:16):
And also Buck Island is alive and well today, so
everything is good, everybody, Everything is good right now?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know Biden's team. Do you want to say it, Clay?
Do you want to say it everyone? Yesterday?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Oh Buck, Clay's gonna get the most expensive stake ever
because Biden's gone. How could you doubt me at this point? Guys,
they've dragged it out to this point. Think about this.
There's so much madness just in this basic idea that
Biden could even be in the.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Mix on July nineteenth of twenty twenty four. What do
you think, Clay? Huh?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I still think he's gone. And by the way, the
gambling odds are at roughly eighty percent. They got up
to ninety percent last night. But it's a mess. And
this was my concern was that Republicans, by having the convention,
were going to take the story back away from Joe
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Biden and Democrat incompetence and the lack of unity inside
of that party. As we are sitting here on Friday
headed into the weekend, Republicans have never been more unified.
Even Republicans who said I'll never vote for Donald Trump
as recently, like Utah's governor, as like ten days ago,
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are now coming out and saying, you know what a
bond reflection. I am going to vote for Trump. There's
more unity than we've ever seen. And the story immediately
pivots back to Democrats. Now, look, I hope Joe Biden
stays in because just they said, oh, he's going to
be back on the campaign trail as soon as he's
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done with COVID. That's the best thing that could happen
to Republicans. The more by Ayden is out there stumbling, bumbling,
fumbling around all over the country that every single day,
the more people look at this and say, yeah, there's
no way possible that I could ever go out and
vote for Joe Biden as president. And I hope Buck
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Island stays strong. I hope you are fortifying the ramparts.
I hope you have an impregnable position, because if he's
the nominee, buying you a stake will be the most
enjoyable steak that I have ever bought, because I do
not see any way possible that Biden will be elected
president in twenty twenty four. Now, when I say that,
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all of you go vote. I want all of you
to go vote early. I want all of you to
bank your ballots. I want all that to happen. So
don't mistake what I'm saying by looking at the overall
landscape as encouraging you not to be steadfast in your voting.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But are you with me?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I just I don't see any way, sort of sadly,
and we got to protect him, Donald Trump getting killed
that Joe Biden could end up winning this election. I'm
not as sanguine as you are about our prospects, just
because I think that when you're talking about such a
small margin as the difference, and I understand, we see
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these numbers and we say, oh my gosh, he's up,
you know, seven percent or five percent in some of
these swing states, depending on the state.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
We're still looking at now, tens.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Of thousands of voteses not that much. It's not that big,
right when you actually look at what the vote differential
would be. Again depends some stage of much bigger populations
than others. But even when you're when you're seeing this, Clay,
I think through the lens of the poll, if you
believe the polls are accurate, and I think right now
there's no reason to think they're not accurate. Then you're
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still within strike striking discs and Democrats, Clay, look at
the dirty tricks they've been willing to pull up to
this point. Nothing is off the table for them when
it comes to power. Nothing is off the table when
it comes to stopping Donald Trump. And I think that
we shouldn't lull ourselves into the belief that they have
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been they feel chastised about their lunacy when it comes
to Trump. I think because you know, the Republican Party
seems so unified, and Trump is now an iconic, a
truly iconic and historic figure after what happened that photo.
In one hundred years, there will be kids sitting in
classrooms looking at that photo of Donald Trump and saying,
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oh my gosh. Really so Democrats are a little stunned,
no question.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But uh, Clay, I mean, Joe Biden's president right now.
We can't ignore that. Joe Biden's president. Now, everybody, that's insane.
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They turned the turnip into the president, so we can
to estimate them. I think where we're headed is that
they are going to ratchet this up to the point
you have said and I think there's a lot of
truth to it. They can't force Biden out. I get it.
It makes total sense. Hey, we can't actually force him out.
(10:18):
There's nothing that can be done, campaign memo out that
Biden's in the race. I wonder whether they might get
so desperate Buck that they say we're going to twenty
fifth Amendment you unless you drop out, because that's the
humiliation they could actually control. They could basically force him
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to walk out of the White House. I don't know
if they're willing to do it, but if you think
about basically the nuclear option as it pertains the Democrats,
that's their trunk card, so to speak. You're familiar. I'm
sure it's one of the one of the most well
known ones. The parable of the scorpion of the frog,
right in this case, for sure, In this case, Biden
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is the frog and the Democrat Party or the scorpion,
because he's their guy. He's the only one right now
that makes the choice of going from one side just
soever knows.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The frog is asked by the scorpion, take me across
the river, and the frog goes, no, you're gonna sting me,
And the scorpion goes I wouldn't do that because then
we'll both drown. And then the scorpion gets on the
frog's back and he goes to swim to the other side,
and the scorpion in the middle of the river stings
the frog, and the frog the last thing he says
is what are you doing now?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We're both gonna die. The scorpion says, it's in my nature.
That's what scorpions do.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
The Democrats would be insane to do the twenty fifth amendment,
that would be the scorpion stinging the frog, because it
guarantees an election loss. Because then we haven't even gotten
to what are the Republicans gonna say about all this clay?
They're gonna say the Democrat Party is such a cluster,
such a mess, a catastrophe that they couldn't even agree
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whether their own president is basically crazy, and so they
had to use the twenty fifth to men, here what
I'm gonna blow your mind here with what they'll actually say.
They will say, this demonstrates why Kamala Harris should be president,
because she's willing to make the hardest possible decision, because
she loves her country more than she is uh than
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she is willing to protect Joe Biden. I'm telling you
that is the way they would spin this the media.
They would actually may work. Clay, I think that's I
think that's flimsy. It's like it's like saying kamal as
the borders are. They can say it, but don't make
it good. Well, but then she would get to run
as the income. But I'm not saying they would do it.
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I'm saying it's their final threat. If Biden won't relinquish power,
they threaten him with. Remember when they went the Republicans
went to the White House with Nixon and they said
the votes are there for impeachment and Nixon walked. They
they basically wasn't willing to call their bluff. Is Biden
just just give me a moment of perspective here, Clay,
(12:59):
all right, just forget about the bet, forget about you know, the.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Endurance of Buck Island.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Just it's just it's like Buck Island took a category.
I almost spit my drink up just at the endurance
of island.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
We have people just we're canoeing around and we got
kayaks out and we're doing Buck Island got hit with
a hurricane, Yes, so there's no question, but we abide,
we endured. Are you absolutely mind blown that Joe Biden
has even been able to hang on this long? Yes, yes,
I am beyond stunned. I mean, there are five new
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Democrats today that have come out and said Biden must
step down.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The RNC is over Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You can't argue that Trump isn't in a commanding position
and Biden, I mean, Biden can barely even walk up
the stairs of Air Force One. He looks like he
might die every step that he takes, and he's hidden
away somewhere in his beach house. I do have to say,
I am astounded at his stubbornness so far. Yes, I
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just I just want to sell all together record. It
is a truly remarkable and crazy thing that shoe Biden.
So if he does for some reason, if it does
happen in a Sunday or a week or whatever, it
just goes to show you what we've been saying about Biden,
that he is obsessed with power, a narcissist delusion.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
All of that is absolutely true. But we'll get into
more of this well.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Also, you know, we didn't get to take many calls
play because we had so many great guests at the
R and C. So you know, obviously r RNC has concluded,
let's take some calls today eight hundred two two two
eight a two. We can talk Biden's succession plans if
you think that's gonna happen.
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Speaker 2 (16:01):
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Speaker 1 (16:03):
Want to take some of your calls here coming up
because we miss you. We saw some of you in person,
but we want to talk to you on the phone.
Mark Zuckerberg is impressed with what happened with Trump's reaction
to what happened last weekend, and I just want to
let you hear it from the richest nerd on the
planet himself.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
This is what he said.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Listen, I've done some stuff personally in the past. I'm
not planning on doing that this time, and that includes
you know, not endorsing either of the candidates. Now, look,
I mean there's obviously a lot of crazy stuff going
on in the world. I mean the historic events over
the last like over the weekend, and I mean I'm
a personal note, it's yeah, I mean, seeing Donald Trump
get get up after getting shot in the face and
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pump his fist in the air with the American flag
is one of the most badass things I've ever seen
in my life. But but look, I mean it's you know,
as and I think looks at some levels an American,
it's like hard to not get kind of emotional about
that spirit and not fighting. I think that that's why
a lot of people like the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You know what we would say online, Clay, that's the
correct take. It was incredibly badass, and as an American,
you know, it was almost the It was a real
life embodiment of that spirit that some of us have
as children. As kids, when we would see Hawk Hulgen
taking off the shirt, you know, yeah, comptd that in
real life after an assassination attempt, he stood up and
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said America or well.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
What stood out to me is I don't think Zuckerberger
would have said that about Trump in any way positive.
Over the past six or seven years, there is a
new openness to acknowledging Trump as a viable and legitimate person.
And it makes me think that Facebook may be less
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Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Let me also say this, you guys all over Milwaukee
were absolutely amazing Buck and I everywhere that we went
staff we have the number one show. I'm We're in
the Milwaukee studio right now of our affiliate. We have
the number one show in Milwaukee thanks to this fabulous
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station that we are on right now. And we met
you guys all over the place. The number of volunteers
that we're trying to make sure that the RNC went
as well as possible, on streets, everywhere, inside of buildings,
answering questions, it was incredible to see. And all the
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way up through last night, I really appreciate everybody coming
up and saying Buck's done for I really hope you
enjoy your stake. It's well deserved that you cash this
win because you've been so perfect and so right on
all this and I'm not kidding Buck. Last night, walking
through five serve and even we had the Jason Aldan
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concert right after the right after the RNC that didn't
end to what guys like one thirty in the morning,
I think was basically when Jason Aldan left the stage
one thirty Central Time, so super late into the night.
Jason Aldean really great. Tens of thousands of people showed
up for that, but there were people coming up all
night at that concert as well, saying, man hey, Clay
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really gonna enjoy that stake. But we were just talking
about this off air Buck the Biden I don't know
how many true believers are left inside of the Biden
twenty twenty four campaign. What do you think how many
I understand people come out and they say, you know,
we're never gonna surrender, We're gonna run, We're running the campaign.
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How many true believers outside of the Biden family itself
do you think are left in the twenty twenty four
campaign who legitimately believe he's gonna be the candidate. I
actually think the number is much higher than people realize.
And I will tell you that I also had people yesterday,
a lot of them. They were dancing on the grave
of Buck Island as it was sliding beneath the waves.
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It was gonna become a scuba only attraction Buck Island.
But no, sure enough, it rose back up from the depths.
And let me say why, or get into why. I
think that has happened at least for now. And I'm
gonna tell you this. If it doesn't happen this weekend,
if it doesn't go down by you know, Sunday or
Monday morning, then that means that they've decided it's no
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longer a conversation with Biden. They're going to try to coerce, meaning,
you know, Hunters. Maybe I don't know, maybe Hunter's sentence
gets a little longer. I know that he can pardon him,
but you know, maybe somebody brings state charges. Yeah, who knows.
I'm telling you they're gonna be at that point. It's
not hey, Joe, we really need you to step down.
It's step down or Jill is never going to be
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invited to another Democrat event for the rest of her life,
you know what I mean? Like it, it's gonna get ugly,
ugly at that point. That's what I think is pretty clear.
The reason there are still Biden true believers and they're
not believers that Biden is great, but their believers that
Biden should stay in is I still think Joe Biden.
You cannot show me a poll that will change my
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mind on this. I think Joe Biden has a better
shot to pull off the most you know, out of
left field. And I know some of you're like, it's
not out a left field because we know what they're
gonna do. But I think he's a stronger candidate than
Kamala Harris, even in this current state. Remember I've been
saying for two years, they will wheel him out onto
the stage with a blanket across his knees and a
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sippy cup in his hand if they think that he's
their best shot. And I think, I mean, Clay, do
you think Kamala really has a better shot. I was
hearing people Yester saying, any moment now they're gonna say
it's Kamala Whitmer, Kamala sends Whitmer comes in. But then
later on yesterday, you know what the reporting was. Nobody
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wants to be Kamala's vice. Why would you want to
be Kamala's vice. You're going into you're going up against
the Trump juggernaut. You're not in the top job. You're
attaching yourself to a ticket that is in that would
be formed with only a couple of months ago. There'd
be disarray. So I'm not even sure you can get
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as a vice on Kamala's ticket. The people that everyone's
talking about. You have to think about this as individual incentives.
The individual incentive for Joe Biden to step down is zero,
meaning Biden gets nothing. It's his choice. If he runs
and wins, Clay, he's a hero. If he runs and wins,
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he's FDR. I mean, he's a Democrat royal for all time.
If he runs and loses, guess what, no worse off
than if he steps down today.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He's also FDR in that FDR died soon after his
election in nineteen forty four, and they hid all of
his mental and physical frailties at that point. Now, I
would argue historically that might have made sense because we were
in the middle of a fighting legit Nazis in the
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World War War two, But that analogy could play. Let
me say two things here. I agree with you, although
in terms of Kamala, I think she might have better
appeal in New York City in Houston, in Atlanta, in
LA with some black voters than Joe Biden does. I
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don't think that's crazy. The problem is, I think this
election is going to be decided quite clearly in Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin. And I think a lot of older, middle income,
lower middle income white swing voters like Joe Biden far
more than they like Kamala Harris. So it could be
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the case that Kamala could be stronger. The problem is
she's stronger in a lot of pl places where Democrats
are either gonna win big or already lose, and she's
worse in those Midwest battleground states. That's correct. I totally
agree with that. I think the numbers all all support
that as we've seen them so far. And I've said
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it before, Biden's eight years as Obama's VP had created
a bond with black voters and Joe Biden. And I've
been told this by friends and colleagues in the past
who were black Democrat voters themselves. So this is real.
There's a sense that Biden was Obama. Whether Obama and
Biden actually like each other or not is irrelevant. You're
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talking about public perception, not the behind closed doors reality
and Kamala Harris I've said that's her. I'm telling you
her main constituency is CNN executives. Her main constituency is
the editorial pages of the New York Times. It is
elite Democrat IVY or sub ivy league, you know, can census.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It is not everyday voters.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Which we saw this in the twenty twenty election and
the Democrat primary. So this is why, you know, when
the question is asked, well, are there any true believers yet,
if we had a Biden Stafford Clay sit down and
make the case to us that Biden is still a
better candidate than Kamala Harris, I'd be sitting there nodding
my head, with all the data, all the reasons why.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
So that's why I think he's still been able to stay.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
In I do think, by the way, you mentioned the
idea of Kamala Whitmer, I do think that if she
picked Shapiro in Pennsylvania, for instance, that might be enough
to win one of those states in the Midwest, if
she got the right running mate. And I think that's why, honestly,
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that Trump's selection of Jade Vance and just parking him
in the Midwest is sort of a counter to that already,
even if that is their play, Yeah, it protects his
Midwest flank, if you will. I think that even with
a Gretchen Whitmer ticket. Let's I mean, say, Kamala Gretchen Whitmer,
which is I heard you know from sources yesterday that
this is what was about to break. It didn't break,
but it could still a Kamala Gretchen Whitmer ticket. Would
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they win Michigan. Yes, I actually think they might be
able to. I think Michigan goes Democrat. Oh but I
think I think Virginia gets really interesting for Republicans. You know,
I think Minnesota. I think there are a number of
states that all of a sudden Democrats would say, oh
my gosh, we're hemorrhaging support in because older white working
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class voters and older black voters still like Joe Biden
more than they like Kamala and Greshen Winmer. We come back.
We'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred two eight
two two eight eight to two. Load them up. We'll
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Welcome back and everybody to Clay and Buck. Want to
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Speaker 2 (29:41):
Here. We are live on Friday. I appreciate you being with.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Us and we should talk to our friend.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I just lost it. There we go, Craig in Corpus Christy, Texas.
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Craig, Hey, y'all, I just want to let us know
I just washed up on Buck Island. I'm sitting here
drinking a Pina Clotta with Ginger and Marry Am. I'm
having a blast, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And you got the professor there. If you need to
make a radio out of some coconuts, you're good to go.
Buck Island. Craig is where it's at. I think you
told our guys that you agree. Who wants to step
in and go up against Trump?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I mean, who really wants to be up against the
Trump train at full steam, full throttle in a way
we've never even seen it before.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
That's correct. The Democrats and the Biden administration, they're worthless
agenda have taken their party right after the edge of
the Grand Canyon. Might was just felmble and louise it
just right off the edge and just crash and burn
and let it go where it goes.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Appreciate you being with us, sir.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And look if welcome to Buck Island, and if we
get hit by an asteroid on Sunday, you know, life's crazy.
I don't tell you things. Things could happen, you know,
but right now it's looking for here. Here's a good
question for you, for the denizens of Buck Island, the diehards,
the batting down the hatches, residents who are who are
still there? When do you think is the final day
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where the coups against Biden basically slam up against him
and there is is it official.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Nomination or do you think?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I mean, because I guess once the ballots start getting printed,
if you.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Can make it three more weeks.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Ish.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I know, right now is the tempest, But every time
we think, oh this is over, there's a new sort
of coup attempt that rises up. This is the most
successful so far, I would say, but it hasn't been enough.
What's what is amazing here is they've basically gone forward. Right,
Let's think that. Let's assume that Biden is the CEO
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of a company. Some of the underlings in the company
and some of the PR people have put out a
statement CEO agrees to resign, but the CEO hasn't agreed
to resign. So the CEO looks at them and says,
I haven't agreed to resign, and they say, well, get
that's what the stock price is dropping, Clay. The stock
price is dropping because everyone's excess, so you better go
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now while's dropping. And he looks at them and says,
but I'm the best one to turn this around, and
you can't make me. They have tried to create the perception,
so the reality of a Biden, you know, step down
whatever you know from the ticket, possibly a resignation will follow.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
And they have failed.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
This is not a coordinated one hundred percent We can
all be sure This is not a coordinated thing with
Democrats where they've all agreed for months.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Oh Biden's going to drop out late July. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
No way, yeah, no, how let's go take a call
here as well as Sondra in Grand Junction, Colorado.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
You got a question for us.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yes, I was wondering, if Biden resigns now rather than
fill out his term, can he still pardon Hunter before
he goes or does he have to say, go to
an open convention or whatever fills out his term so
he can pardon.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It's a good question. Center.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
My belief here, Clay, let me know if you disagree,
is that he if he were to resign, he would
partner commute Hunter before the resignation would go into effect,
because at that point, what does he care?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And then he would and then he would resign. One
hundred percent agree with that.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I think we can get into I had such a
good discussion yesterday with a bunch of different people, and
you and I kind of talked about it a little bit.
It is so interesting if Biden is not going to run,
what Democrats are opening themselves up to is if Biden
says I can't run you know what, I'm too old.
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You're right, I'm stepping out of the race. The immediate
follow up question is if he can't run, how in
the world can he be president for the next six months.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Well, this is what I've been having hammering this all along.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
If you're not of sal mine to be president in January,
which is what he would be admitting, how.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
The heck are you of sound mind to be president today?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Someone explains, That's why I think the twenty fifth Amendment
angle to me, the compromise is, you say I'm stepping
down in January?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Will it allow that to happen?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Because I think the ultimate indignity here is actually not
for Biden losing in twenty twenty four. I think it
is being forced to leave the White House before his
term is done Nixon style, except being forced to leave
because Joe Biden got knocked out by Donald Trump, the
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guy that he thinks is such an existential threat to democracy.
If he says he's not running, the columns are already
written where they will say, Oh, he's George Washington. He's
the greatest, most selfless leader in the history of this nation. Right,
I can write for you what all of the Democrat
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propagandist will say what morning Joe will be begin his
show with it's self evident. I don't think that Hunter
Biden or Jill Biden will allow their father to be humiliated.
Where you have a throw up the peace sign as
you get on the helicopter on the White House lawn,
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look like what occurred for Nixon. So I think that's
kind of the bat in the middle ground here, John
and Kalamazoo, Michigan, Michigan. What have you got first, John, Hi.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Guys, enjoy the show.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
Hey, KEEMC Dennison of Buck Island as well. And yeah,
we've a bit of a hurricane here, and all all
Clay's losers are flying over in Coast Guard helicopters and
they lived through their binoculars.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
And what do they see.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
They see Bucking eye on the beach, flipping birds, a
fat him.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
John, I love you, welcome to Buck Islander. Rather thank
you for being on Buck Island the whole time. Here's
what I don't want Buck. I don't want you, and
you're John and everybody else on Buck Island. I fear
that you're soon going to be spelling out sos and coconuts.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And I want all of you.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I want all of you to not let the ships
leave and wave at them and be like, everything's fine here,
those of us in the sky above flying. We don't
want to have to look for the coconut signals on
the beach. And I feel like coconut season, a signal
on the beach, season is here. When you were a
young guy, Ginger and Marianne Clay, who is the best,
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I liked Ginger, but now that.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I think I were more of a Maryanne person, I
like the redhead. Back in the day,
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Friday edition of
the program.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We appreciate all of you.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
The Republican National Convention officially complete, absolute home run for
the RNC, for the Republican Party, for Donald Trump, well organized, unifying,
and now all of the focus moves back to Buck
(00:30):
Island and Joe Biden and the disunity that is on
the side of the Democrat Party. But I thought last night,
particularly in the first thirty or forty five minutes of
what I found to be a captivating beginning of his speech.
To be fair, I thought he could have cut off
Donald Trump a half hour of the speech and it
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would have been as effective or even potentially more effective.
But I thought the first thirty or forty five minutes,
which is when the vast majority of people on the
East Coast are awake and paying attention, I thought it
was an absolute home run for Donald Trump. And as
we sit here now on the Friday after the RNC,
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it feels like Republicans have solidified their lead and now
Democrats are in scramble mode to figure out what they're
going to be capable of.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I don't know about you, and maybe it's just our age,
but Hulk Hogan ripping off his shirt at the RNC,
to me, was one of the most incredibly iconic moments,
and I thought it personified for me what has become
true in this election cycle, which I think many of
you feel but hadn't quite crystallized until now. Trump has
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become the cooler, younger, hipper candidate than anything the Democrats
are offering right now. And I thought some of I
understand some of you are not Hid Rock fans, and
maybe some of you didn't like Dana White, and maybe
you didn't like Hulk Hogan, but I'm telling you, if
you're in your twenties or thirties, you probably did. And
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I don't remember a situation like this where Republicans have
come out this unified in the twenty first century. How
did you take sort of the whole four days? Now
as we can textualize and contemplate what happened here in Milwaukee,
I don't think the RNC could have gone any better
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on a political front. On the logistics side of things,
I think they did a phenomenal job. I think that
it was much more meaningful and honestly emotional than any
of us had anticipated. Because of what had happened to
President Trump? When you looked around last night, in the
first the first twenty or thirty minutes of the speech
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was truly moving. I not somebody who feels a lot
of stirring emotions because of political speeches, and I was
watching it and just saying to myself, oh my gosh,
it's a reminder of what could have been. And you
looked around that crowd play and people were tearing up
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just as Trump was describing what happened, and I just
think that there was I'll tell you this, so many
of our people, and one of the night one of
the nicest things for us is that we get to
see so many of our listeners, which is great. I mean,
it's only a small fraction of the overall listeners were
very blessed. But to just see our people and have
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them want to talk to us and say they appreciate
the show and say that Rush would be proud, and
that always makes us feel really good. We had so
many of those people, so many of you saying that
to us who were there, but also going around and
seeing our media colleagues play. Everybody had this sense of
gratitude and destiny. That's what I would say gratitude for
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the miracle of Donald Trump being Okay. I feel like
every day at that RNC you just had to think
to yourself, what would have happened, what could have what
almost did happen? And then the fact that it was
a true celebration. There was a lot of gratitude, a
lot of gratitude for that, and then the sense of
destiny just that this is now a United Republican Party
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and a party that is already seeming to be looking
to the future for what can be accomplished, much more
so than it is bogged down in the trench warfare
of the election, so to speak. And so anyway, I
thought it was I thought it was really really special,
and I was very glad that we were there and
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able to see everybody. And I just think that Trump's
speech last night it went beyond political clad, do you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It wasn't just a stump speech.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It was a gut check moment for the country, and
it was stirring to the soul to hear Donald Trump
speak about what he faced and the perspective that he
has now on life and on his mission. So honestly,
I thought it was magnificent. I thought it was incredibly powerful.
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And also Buck Island is alive and well today, so
everything is good, everybody, Everything is good right now?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know Biden's team. Do you want to say it, Clay?
Do you want to say it everyone? Yesterday?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Oh Buck, Clay's gonna get the most expensive stake ever
because Biden's gone. How could you doubt me at this point? Guys,
they've dragged it out to this point. Think about this.
There's so much madness just in this basic idea that
Biden could even be in the.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Mix on July nineteenth of twenty twenty four. What do
you think, Clay? Huh?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I still think he's gone. And by the way, the
gambling odds are at roughly eighty percent. They got up
to ninety percent last night. But it's a mess. And
this was my concern was that Republicans, by having the convention,
were going to take the story back away from Joe
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Biden and Democrat incompetence and the lack of unity inside
of that party. As we are sitting here on Friday
headed into the weekend, Republicans have never been more unified.
Even Republicans who said I'll never vote for Donald Trump
as recently, like Utah's governor, as like ten days ago,
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are now coming out and saying, you know what a
bond reflection. I am going to vote for Trump. There's
more unity than we've ever seen. And the story immediately
pivots back to Democrats. Now, look, I hope Joe Biden
stays in because just they said, oh, he's going to
be back on the campaign trail as soon as he's
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done with COVID. That's the best thing that could happen
to Republicans. The more by Ayden is out there stumbling, bumbling,
fumbling around all over the country that every single day,
the more people look at this and say, yeah, there's
no way possible that I could ever go out and
vote for Joe Biden as president. And I hope Buck
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Island stays strong. I hope you are fortifying the ramparts.
I hope you have an impregnable position, because if he's
the nominee, buying you a stake will be the most
enjoyable steak that I have ever bought, because I do
not see any way possible that Biden will be elected
president in twenty twenty four. Now, when I say that,
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all of you go vote. I want all of you
to go vote early. I want all of you to
bank your ballots. I want all that to happen. So
don't mistake what I'm saying by looking at the overall
landscape as encouraging you not to be steadfast in your voting.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But are you with me?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I just I don't see any way, sort of sadly,
and we got to protect him, Donald Trump getting killed
that Joe Biden could end up winning this election. I'm
not as sanguine as you are about our prospects, just
because I think that when you're talking about such a
small margin as the difference, and I understand, we see
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these numbers and we say, oh my gosh, he's up,
you know, seven percent or five percent in some of
these swing states, depending on the state.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
We're still looking at now, tens.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Of thousands of voteses not that much. It's not that big,
right when you actually look at what the vote differential
would be. Again depends some stage of much bigger populations
than others. But even when you're when you're seeing this, Clay,
I think through the lens of the poll, if you
believe the polls are accurate, and I think right now
there's no reason to think they're not accurate. Then you're
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still within strike striking discs and Democrats, Clay, look at
the dirty tricks they've been willing to pull up to
this point. Nothing is off the table for them when
it comes to power. Nothing is off the table when
it comes to stopping Donald Trump. And I think that
we shouldn't lull ourselves into the belief that they have
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been they feel chastised about their lunacy when it comes
to Trump. I think because you know, the Republican Party
seems so unified, and Trump is now an iconic, a
truly iconic and historic figure after what happened that photo.
In one hundred years, there will be kids sitting in
classrooms looking at that photo of Donald Trump and saying,
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oh my gosh. Really so Democrats are a little stunned,
no question.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But uh, Clay, I mean, Joe Biden's president right now.
We can't ignore that. Joe Biden's president. Now, everybody, that's insane.
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They turned the turnip into the president, so we can
to estimate them. I think where we're headed is that
they are going to ratchet this up to the point
you have said and I think there's a lot of
truth to it. They can't force Biden out. I get it.
It makes total sense. Hey, we can't actually force him out.
(10:18):
There's nothing that can be done, campaign memo out that
Biden's in the race. I wonder whether they might get
so desperate Buck that they say we're going to twenty
fifth Amendment you unless you drop out, because that's the
humiliation they could actually control. They could basically force him
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to walk out of the White House. I don't know
if they're willing to do it, but if you think
about basically the nuclear option as it pertains the Democrats,
that's their trunk card, so to speak. You're familiar. I'm
sure it's one of the one of the most well
known ones. The parable of the scorpion of the frog,
right in this case, for sure, In this case, Biden
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is the frog and the Democrat Party or the scorpion,
because he's their guy. He's the only one right now
that makes the choice of going from one side just
soever knows.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The frog is asked by the scorpion, take me across
the river, and the frog goes, no, you're gonna sting me,
And the scorpion goes I wouldn't do that because then
we'll both drown. And then the scorpion gets on the
frog's back and he goes to swim to the other side,
and the scorpion in the middle of the river stings
the frog, and the frog the last thing he says
is what are you doing now?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We're both gonna die. The scorpion says, it's in my nature.
That's what scorpions do.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
The Democrats would be insane to do the twenty fifth amendment,
that would be the scorpion stinging the frog, because it
guarantees an election loss. Because then we haven't even gotten
to what are the Republicans gonna say about all this clay?
They're gonna say the Democrat Party is such a cluster,
such a mess, a catastrophe that they couldn't even agree
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whether their own president is basically crazy, and so they
had to use the twenty fifth to men, here what
I'm gonna blow your mind here with what they'll actually say.
They will say, this demonstrates why Kamala Harris should be president,
because she's willing to make the hardest possible decision, because
she loves her country more than she is uh than
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she is willing to protect Joe Biden. I'm telling you
that is the way they would spin this the media.
They would actually may work. Clay, I think that's I
think that's flimsy. It's like it's like saying kamal as
the borders are. They can say it, but don't make
it good. Well, but then she would get to run
as the income. But I'm not saying they would do it.
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I'm saying it's their final threat. If Biden won't relinquish power,
they threaten him with. Remember when they went the Republicans
went to the White House with Nixon and they said
the votes are there for impeachment and Nixon walked. They
they basically wasn't willing to call their bluff. Is Biden
just just give me a moment of perspective here, Clay,
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all right, just forget about the bet, forget about you know, the.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Endurance of Buck Island.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Just it's just it's like Buck Island took a category.
I almost spit my drink up just at the endurance
of island.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
We have people just we're canoeing around and we got
kayaks out and we're doing Buck Island got hit with
a hurricane, Yes, so there's no question, but we abide,
we endured. Are you absolutely mind blown that Joe Biden
has even been able to hang on this long? Yes, yes,
I am beyond stunned. I mean, there are five new
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Democrats today that have come out and said Biden must
step down.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The RNC is over Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You can't argue that Trump isn't in a commanding position
and Biden, I mean, Biden can barely even walk up
the stairs of Air Force One. He looks like he
might die every step that he takes, and he's hidden
away somewhere in his beach house. I do have to say,
I am astounded at his stubbornness so far. Yes, I
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just I just want to sell all together record. It
is a truly remarkable and crazy thing that shoe Biden.
So if he does for some reason, if it does
happen in a Sunday or a week or whatever, it
just goes to show you what we've been saying about Biden,
that he is obsessed with power, a narcissist delusion.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
All of that is absolutely true. But we'll get into
more of this well.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Also, you know, we didn't get to take many calls
play because we had so many great guests at the
R and C. So you know, obviously r RNC has concluded,
let's take some calls today eight hundred two two two
eight a two. We can talk Biden's succession plans if
you think that's gonna happen.
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Welcome back in everybody, A lot of our lines. It
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Speaker 2 (16:01):
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Speaker 1 (16:03):
Want to take some of your calls here coming up
because we miss you. We saw some of you in person,
but we want to talk to you on the phone.
Mark Zuckerberg is impressed with what happened with Trump's reaction
to what happened last weekend, and I just want to
let you hear it from the richest nerd on the
planet himself.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
This is what he said.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Listen, I've done some stuff personally in the past. I'm
not planning on doing that this time, and that includes
you know, not endorsing either of the candidates. Now, look,
I mean there's obviously a lot of crazy stuff going
on in the world. I mean the historic events over
the last like over the weekend, and I mean I'm
a personal note, it's yeah, I mean, seeing Donald Trump
get get up after getting shot in the face and
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pump his fist in the air with the American flag
is one of the most badass things I've ever seen
in my life. But but look, I mean it's you know,
as and I think looks at some levels an American,
it's like hard to not get kind of emotional about
that spirit and not fighting. I think that that's why
a lot of people like the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You know what we would say online, Clay, that's the
correct take. It was incredibly badass, and as an American,
you know, it was almost the It was a real
life embodiment of that spirit that some of us have
as children. As kids, when we would see Hawk Hulgen
taking off the shirt, you know, yeah, comptd that in
real life after an assassination attempt, he stood up and
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said America or well.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
What stood out to me is I don't think Zuckerberger
would have said that about Trump in any way positive.
Over the past six or seven years, there is a
new openness to acknowledging Trump as a viable and legitimate person.
And it makes me think that Facebook may be less
active in trying to restrict content that you, or me,
or many of our listeners out there are sharing. Look,
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Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Let me also say this, you guys all over Milwaukee
were absolutely amazing Buck and I everywhere that we went
staff we have the number one show. I'm We're in
the Milwaukee studio right now of our affiliate. We have
the number one show in Milwaukee thanks to this fabulous
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station that we are on right now. And we met
you guys all over the place. The number of volunteers
that we're trying to make sure that the RNC went
as well as possible, on streets, everywhere, inside of buildings,
answering questions, it was incredible to see. And all the
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way up through last night, I really appreciate everybody coming
up and saying Buck's done for I really hope you
enjoy your stake. It's well deserved that you cash this
win because you've been so perfect and so right on
all this and I'm not kidding Buck. Last night, walking
through five serve and even we had the Jason Aldan
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concert right after the right after the RNC that didn't
end to what guys like one thirty in the morning,
I think was basically when Jason Aldan left the stage
one thirty Central Time, so super late into the night.
Jason Aldean really great. Tens of thousands of people showed
up for that, but there were people coming up all
night at that concert as well, saying, man hey, Clay
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really gonna enjoy that stake. But we were just talking
about this off air Buck the Biden I don't know
how many true believers are left inside of the Biden
twenty twenty four campaign. What do you think how many
I understand people come out and they say, you know,
we're never gonna surrender, We're gonna run, We're running the campaign.
(20:45):
How many true believers outside of the Biden family itself
do you think are left in the twenty twenty four
campaign who legitimately believe he's gonna be the candidate. I
actually think the number is much higher than people realize.
And I will tell you that I also had people yesterday,
a lot of them. They were dancing on the grave
of Buck Island as it was sliding beneath the waves.
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It was gonna become a scuba only attraction Buck Island.
But no, sure enough, it rose back up from the depths.
And let me say why, or get into why. I
think that has happened at least for now. And I'm
gonna tell you this. If it doesn't happen this weekend,
if it doesn't go down by you know, Sunday or
Monday morning, then that means that they've decided it's no
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longer a conversation with Biden. They're going to try to coerce, meaning,
you know, Hunters. Maybe I don't know, maybe Hunter's sentence
gets a little longer. I know that he can pardon him,
but you know, maybe somebody brings state charges. Yeah, who knows.
I'm telling you they're gonna be at that point. It's
not hey, Joe, we really need you to step down.
It's step down or Jill is never going to be
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invited to another Democrat event for the rest of her life,
you know what I mean? Like it, it's gonna get ugly,
ugly at that point. That's what I think is pretty clear.
The reason there are still Biden true believers and they're
not believers that Biden is great, but their believers that
Biden should stay in is I still think Joe Biden.
You cannot show me a poll that will change my
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mind on this. I think Joe Biden has a better
shot to pull off the most you know, out of
left field. And I know some of you're like, it's
not out a left field because we know what they're
gonna do. But I think he's a stronger candidate than
Kamala Harris, even in this current state. Remember I've been
saying for two years, they will wheel him out onto
the stage with a blanket across his knees and a
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sippy cup in his hand if they think that he's
their best shot. And I think, I mean, Clay, do
you think Kamala really has a better shot. I was
hearing people Yester saying, any moment now they're gonna say
it's Kamala Whitmer, Kamala sends Whitmer comes in. But then
later on yesterday, you know what the reporting was. Nobody
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wants to be Kamala's vice. Why would you want to
be Kamala's vice. You're going into you're going up against
the Trump juggernaut. You're not in the top job. You're
attaching yourself to a ticket that is in that would
be formed with only a couple of months ago. There'd
be disarray. So I'm not even sure you can get
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as a vice on Kamala's ticket. The people that everyone's
talking about. You have to think about this as individual incentives.
The individual incentive for Joe Biden to step down is zero,
meaning Biden gets nothing. It's his choice. If he runs
and wins, Clay, he's a hero. If he runs and wins,
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he's FDR. I mean, he's a Democrat royal for all time.
If he runs and loses, guess what, no worse off
than if he steps down today.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He's also FDR in that FDR died soon after his
election in nineteen forty four, and they hid all of
his mental and physical frailties at that point. Now, I
would argue historically that might have made sense because we were
in the middle of a fighting legit Nazis in the
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World War War two, But that analogy could play. Let
me say two things here. I agree with you, although
in terms of Kamala, I think she might have better
appeal in New York City in Houston, in Atlanta, in
LA with some black voters than Joe Biden does. I
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don't think that's crazy. The problem is, I think this
election is going to be decided quite clearly in Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin. And I think a lot of older, middle income,
lower middle income white swing voters like Joe Biden far
more than they like Kamala Harris. So it could be
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the case that Kamala could be stronger. The problem is
she's stronger in a lot of pl places where Democrats
are either gonna win big or already lose, and she's
worse in those Midwest battleground states. That's correct. I totally
agree with that. I think the numbers all all support
that as we've seen them so far. And I've said
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it before, Biden's eight years as Obama's VP had created
a bond with black voters and Joe Biden. And I've
been told this by friends and colleagues in the past
who were black Democrat voters themselves. So this is real.
There's a sense that Biden was Obama. Whether Obama and
Biden actually like each other or not is irrelevant. You're
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talking about public perception, not the behind closed doors reality
and Kamala Harris I've said that's her. I'm telling you
her main constituency is CNN executives. Her main constituency is
the editorial pages of the New York Times. It is
elite Democrat IVY or sub ivy league, you know, can census.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It is not everyday voters.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Which we saw this in the twenty twenty election and
the Democrat primary. So this is why, you know, when
the question is asked, well, are there any true believers yet,
if we had a Biden Stafford Clay sit down and
make the case to us that Biden is still a
better candidate than Kamala Harris, I'd be sitting there nodding
my head, with all the data, all the reasons why.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
So that's why I think he's still been able to stay.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
In I do think, by the way, you mentioned the
idea of Kamala Whitmer, I do think that if she
picked Shapiro in Pennsylvania, for instance, that might be enough
to win one of those states in the Midwest, if
she got the right running mate. And I think that's why, honestly,
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that Trump's selection of Jade Vance and just parking him
in the Midwest is sort of a counter to that already,
even if that is their play, Yeah, it protects his
Midwest flank, if you will. I think that even with
a Gretchen Whitmer ticket. Let's I mean, say, Kamala Gretchen Whitmer,
which is I heard you know from sources yesterday that
this is what was about to break. It didn't break,
but it could still a Kamala Gretchen Whitmer ticket. Would
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they win Michigan. Yes, I actually think they might be
able to. I think Michigan goes Democrat. Oh but I
think I think Virginia gets really interesting for Republicans. You know,
I think Minnesota. I think there are a number of
states that all of a sudden Democrats would say, oh
my gosh, we're hemorrhaging support in because older white working
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class voters and older black voters still like Joe Biden
more than they like Kamala and Greshen Winmer. We come back.
We'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred two eight
two two eight eight to two. Load them up. We'll
take some of those when we come back. In the meantime,
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Welcome back and everybody to Clay and Buck. Want to
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Speaker 2 (29:41):
Here. We are live on Friday. I appreciate you being with.
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Us and we should talk to our friend.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I just lost it. There we go, Craig in Corpus Christy, Texas.
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Craig, Hey, y'all, I just want to let us know
I just washed up on Buck Island. I'm sitting here
drinking a Pina Clotta with Ginger and Marry Am. I'm
having a blast, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And you got the professor there. If you need to
make a radio out of some coconuts, you're good to go.
Buck Island. Craig is where it's at. I think you
told our guys that you agree. Who wants to step
in and go up against Trump?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I mean, who really wants to be up against the
Trump train at full steam, full throttle in a way
we've never even seen it before.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
That's correct. The Democrats and the Biden administration, they're worthless
agenda have taken their party right after the edge of
the Grand Canyon. Might was just felmble and louise it
just right off the edge and just crash and burn
and let it go where it goes.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Appreciate you being with us, sir.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And look if welcome to Buck Island, and if we
get hit by an asteroid on Sunday, you know, life's crazy.
I don't tell you things. Things could happen, you know,
but right now it's looking for here. Here's a good
question for you, for the denizens of Buck Island, the diehards,
the batting down the hatches, residents who are who are
still there? When do you think is the final day
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where the coups against Biden basically slam up against him
and there is is it official.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Nomination or do you think?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I mean, because I guess once the ballots start getting printed,
if you.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Can make it three more weeks.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Ish.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I know, right now is the tempest, But every time
we think, oh this is over, there's a new sort
of coup attempt that rises up. This is the most
successful so far, I would say, but it hasn't been enough.
What's what is amazing here is they've basically gone forward. Right,
Let's think that. Let's assume that Biden is the CEO
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of a company. Some of the underlings in the company
and some of the PR people have put out a
statement CEO agrees to resign, but the CEO hasn't agreed
to resign. So the CEO looks at them and says,
I haven't agreed to resign, and they say, well, get
that's what the stock price is dropping, Clay. The stock
price is dropping because everyone's excess, so you better go
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now while's dropping. And he looks at them and says,
but I'm the best one to turn this around, and
you can't make me. They have tried to create the perception,
so the reality of a Biden, you know, step down
whatever you know from the ticket, possibly a resignation will follow.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
And they have failed.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
This is not a coordinated one hundred percent We can
all be sure This is not a coordinated thing with
Democrats where they've all agreed for months.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Oh Biden's going to drop out late July. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
No way, yeah, no, how let's go take a call
here as well as Sondra in Grand Junction, Colorado.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
You got a question for us.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yes, I was wondering, if Biden resigns now rather than
fill out his term, can he still pardon Hunter before
he goes or does he have to say, go to
an open convention or whatever fills out his term so
he can pardon.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It's a good question. Center.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
My belief here, Clay, let me know if you disagree,
is that he if he were to resign, he would
partner commute Hunter before the resignation would go into effect,
because at that point, what does he care?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And then he would and then he would resign. One
hundred percent agree with that.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I think we can get into I had such a
good discussion yesterday with a bunch of different people, and
you and I kind of talked about it a little bit.
It is so interesting if Biden is not going to run,
what Democrats are opening themselves up to is if Biden
says I can't run you know what, I'm too old.
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You're right, I'm stepping out of the race. The immediate
follow up question is if he can't run, how in
the world can he be president for the next six months.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Well, this is what I've been having hammering this all along.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
If you're not of sal mine to be president in January,
which is what he would be admitting, how.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
The heck are you of sound mind to be president today?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Someone explains, That's why I think the twenty fifth Amendment
angle to me, the compromise is, you say I'm stepping
down in January?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Will it allow that to happen?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Because I think the ultimate indignity here is actually not
for Biden losing in twenty twenty four. I think it
is being forced to leave the White House before his
term is done Nixon style, except being forced to leave
because Joe Biden got knocked out by Donald Trump, the
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guy that he thinks is such an existential threat to democracy.
If he says he's not running, the columns are already
written where they will say, Oh, he's George Washington. He's
the greatest, most selfless leader in the history of this nation. Right,
I can write for you what all of the Democrat
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propagandist will say what morning Joe will be begin his
show with it's self evident. I don't think that Hunter
Biden or Jill Biden will allow their father to be humiliated.
Where you have a throw up the peace sign as
you get on the helicopter on the White House lawn,
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look like what occurred for Nixon. So I think that's
kind of the bat in the middle ground here, John
and Kalamazoo, Michigan, Michigan. What have you got first, John, Hi.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Guys, enjoy the show.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
Hey, KEEMC Dennison of Buck Island as well. And yeah,
we've a bit of a hurricane here, and all all
Clay's losers are flying over in Coast Guard helicopters and
they lived through their binoculars.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
And what do they see.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
They see Bucking eye on the beach, flipping birds, a
fat him.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
John, I love you, welcome to Buck Islander. Rather thank
you for being on Buck Island the whole time. Here's
what I don't want Buck. I don't want you, and
you're John and everybody else on Buck Island. I fear
that you're soon going to be spelling out sos and coconuts.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And I want all of you.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I want all of you to not let the ships
leave and wave at them and be like, everything's fine here,
those of us in the sky above flying. We don't
want to have to look for the coconut signals on
the beach. And I feel like coconut season, a signal
on the beach, season is here. When you were a
young guy, Ginger and Marianne Clay, who is the best,
(36:31):
I liked Ginger, but now that.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I think I were more of a Maryanne person, I
like the redhead. Back in the day,
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