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July 19, 2024 51 mins
RNC wraps and Buck Island takes on water. MAGA Movement. Trump describes the assassination attempt.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Friday edition of
the program.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
We appreciate all of you.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
The Republican National Convention officially complete, absolute home run for
the RNC, for the Republican Party, for Donald Trump, well organized, unifying,
and now all of the focus moves back to Buck

(00:30):
Island and Joe Biden and the disunity that is on
the side of the Democrat Party. But I thought last night,
particularly in the first thirty or forty five minutes of
what I found to be a captivating beginning of his speech.
To be fair, I thought he could have cut off
Donald Trump a half hour of the speech and it

(00:52):
would have been as effective or even potentially more effective.
But I thought the first thirty or forty five minutes,
which is when vast majority of people on the East
Coast are awake and paying attention, I thought it was
an absolute home run for Donald Trump. And as we
sit here now on the Friday after the RNC, it

(01:14):
feels like Republicans have solidified their lead and now Democrats
are in scramble mode to figure out what they're going
to be capable of.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I don't know about you, and maybe it's just our
age but Hulk Hogan ripping off his shirt at the RNC,
to me, was one of the most incredibly iconic moments,
and I thought it personified for me what has become
true in this election cycle, which I think many of
you feel but hadn't quite crystallized until now. Trump has

(01:49):
become the cooler, younger, hipper candidate than anything the Democrats
are offering right now. And I thought some of I
understand some of you are now Kid Rock fans, and
maybe some of you didn't like Dana White, and maybe
you didn't like Hulk Hogan, but I'm telling you, if
you're in your twenties or thirties, you probably did. And

(02:11):
I don't remember a situation like this where Republicans have
come out this unified in the twenty first century. How
did you take sort of the whole four days? Now,
as we can textualize and contemplate what happened here in Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I don't think the RNC could have gone any better
on a political front. On the logistics side of things,
I think they did a phenomenal job. I think that
it was much more meaningful and honestly emotional than any
of us had anticipated because of what had happened to
President Trump. When you looked around last night, in the

(02:49):
first the first twenty or thirty minutes of the speech
was truly moving, not somebody who feels a lot of
stirring emotions because of political speeches. And I was watching
it and just saying to myself, oh my gosh, it's
a reminder of what could have been. And you looked

(03:11):
around that crowd play and people were tearing up just
as Trump was describing what happened, and I just think
that there was I'll tell you this, so many of
our people and one of the night one of the
nicest things for us is that we get to see
so many of our listeners, which is great. I mean,
it's only a small fraction of the overall listeners. Were

(03:32):
very blessed. But to just see our people and have
them want to talk to us and say they appreciate
the show and say that Rush would be proud, and
that always makes us feel really good. We had so
many of those people, so many of you saying that
to us who were there, but also going around and
seeing our media colleagues play. Everybody had this sense of

(03:53):
gratitude and destiny. That's what I would say, gratitude for
the miracle of Donald Trump being Okay, I feel like
every day at that RNC you just had to think
to yourself, what would have happened, what could have what
almost did happen? And then the fact that it was
a true celebration. There was a lot of gratitude, a

(04:16):
lot of gratitude for that, and then the sense of
destiny just that this is now a United Republican party
and a party that is already seeming to be looking
to the future for what can be accomplished, much more
so than it is bogged down in the trench warfare
of the election, so to speak. And so anyway, I

(04:39):
thought it was I thought it was really really special,
and I was very glad that we were there and
able to see everybody. And I just think that Trump's
speech last night it went beyond political clad, do you
know what I mean. It wasn't just a stump speech.
It was a gut check moment for the country. And
it was stirring to the soul to hear Donald Trump

(05:03):
speak about what he faced and the perspective that he
has now on life and on his mission. So honestly,
I thought it was magnificent. I thought it was incredibly powerful.
And also Buck Island is alive and well today, so
everything is good, everybody, Everything is good right now?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know Biden's team.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Do you want to say it, Clay? Do you want
to say it everyone? Yesterday?

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Oh Buck, Clay's gonna get the most expensive stake ever
because Biden's gone.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
How could you doubt me at this point? Guys, they've
dragged it out to this point.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Think about this.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
There's so much madness just in this basic idea that
Biden could even be in the mix on July nineteenth
of twenty twenty four. What do you think, Clay? Huh?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I still think he's gone. And by the way, the
gambling odds are at roughly eighty percent. They got up
to ninety percent last night. But it's a mess. And
this was my concern, was that Republicans, by having the convention,
were going to take the story back away from Joe

(06:12):
Biden and Democrat incompetence and the lack of unity inside
of that party. As we are sitting here on Friday,
headed into the weekend, Republicans have never been more unified.
Even Republicans who said I'll never vote for Donald Trump
as recently, like Utah's governor, as like ten days ago,

(06:34):
are now coming out and saying, you know what a
bond reflection. I am going to vote for Trump. There's
more unity than we've ever seen. And the story immediately
pivots back to Democrats. Now, look, I hope Joe Biden
stays in because just they said, oh, he's going to
be back on the campaign trail as soon as he's

(06:54):
done with COVID. That's the best thing that could happen
to Republicans. The more Biden is out there stumbling, bumbling,
fumbling around all over the country that every single day,
the more people look at this and say, yeah, there's
no way possible that I could ever go out and
vote for Joe Biden as president. And I hope Buck

(07:18):
Island stays strong. I hope you are fortifying the ramparts.
I hope you have an impregnable position, because if he's
the nominee, buying you a stake will be the most
enjoyable steak that I have ever bought, because I do
not see any way possible that Biden will be elected
president in twenty twenty four. Now, when I say that

(07:41):
all of you go vote, I want all of you
to go vote early. I want all of you to
bank your ballots. I want all that to happen. So
don't mistake what I'm saying by looking at the overall
landscape as encouraging you not to be steadfast in your voting.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
But are you with me? I just I don't see
any way.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Sort of sadly, and we got to protect him Donald
Trump getting killed that Joe Biden could end up winning
this election.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'm not as sanguine as you are about our prospects,
just because I think that when you're talking about such
a small margin as the difference, and I understand, we
see these numbers and we say, oh my gosh, he's up,
you know, seven percent or five percent in some of
these swing states, depending on the state. We're still looking

(08:33):
at now, tens of thousands of voteses not that much.
It's not that big, right when you actually look at
what the vote differential would be. Again, depends some stage
of much bigger populations than others. But even when you're
when you're seeing this, Clay, I think through the lens
of the poll, if you believe the polls are accurate,
and I think right now, there's no reason to think

(08:54):
they're not accurate, then you're still within strike striking distance.
And Democrats, Clay, look at the dirty tricks they've been
willing to pull up to this point. Nothing is off
the table for them when it comes to power. Nothing
is off the table when it comes to stopping Donald Trump.
And I think that we shouldn't lull ourselves into the

(09:16):
belief that they have been they feel chastised about their
lunacy when it comes to Trump. I think because you know,
the Republican Party seems so unified, and Trump is now
an iconic, a truly iconic and historic figure after what
happened that photo. In one hundred years, there will be
kids sitting in classrooms looking at that photo of Donald

(09:38):
Trump and saying, oh my gosh. Really so Democrats are
a little stunned, no question, But uh, Clay, I mean,
Joe Biden's president right now.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
We can't ignore that. Joe Biden's president. Now, everybody, that's insane.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's insane. They turned the turnip into the president.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So we can't underestimate them.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I think where we're headed is that they are going
to ratchet this up to the point. You know you
have said, and I think there's a lot of truth
to it. They can't force Biden out. I get it.
It makes total sense. Hey, we can't actually force him out.
There's nothing that can be done, campaign memo out that

(10:22):
Biden's in the race. I wonder whether they might get
so desperate Buck that they say we're going to twenty
fifth Amendment you unless you drop out, because that's the
humiliation they could actually control. They could basically force him
to walk out of the White House. I don't know
if they're willing to do it, but if you think

(10:43):
about basically the nuclear option as it pertains the Democrats,
that's their trunk card, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
You're familiar. I'm sure it's one of the one of
the most well known ones. The parable of the scorpion
of the frog, right in this case, for sure, In
this case, Biden is the frog and the Democrat Party
or the scorpion, because he's their guy. He's the only
one right now that makes the choice of going from
one side just soever knows. Right. The frog is asked

(11:11):
by the scorpion, take me across the river, and the
frog goes, no, you're gonna sting me, And the scorpion goes,
I wouldn't do that because then we'll both drown. And
then the scorpion gets on the frog's back and he
goes to swim to the other side, and the scorpion
in the middle of the river stings the frog, and
the frog the last thing he says is what are
you doing now? We're both gonna die. The scorpion says,
it's in my nature. That's what scorpions do. The Democrats

(11:33):
would be insane to do the twenty fifth amendment, that
would be the scorpion stinging the frog, because it guarantees
an election loss. Because then we haven't even gotten to
what are the Republicans gonna say about all this clay?
They're gonna say the Democrat Party is such a a cluster,
such a mess, a catastrophe that they couldn't even agree

(11:55):
whether their own president is basically crazy, and so they
had to use the twenty fifth.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Here what I'm gonna blow your mind here with what
they'll actually say. They will say, this demonstrates why Kamala
Harris should be president, because she's willing to make the
hardest possible decision, because she loves her country more than
she is uh than she is willing to protect Joe Biden.
I'm telling you that is the way they would spin

(12:23):
this the media. They would actually work. Clay, I think
that's I think that's flimsy. It's like it's like saying
kamal as the borders are. They can say it, but
don't make it good. Well, but then she would get
to run as the incumb But I'm not saying they
would do it. I'm saying it's their final threat. If
Biden won't relinquish power they threaten him with. Remember when

(12:44):
they went the Republicans went to the White House with
Nixon and they said the votes are there for impeachment
and Nixon walked. They they basically wasn't willing to call
their bluff.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Is Biden just just give me a moment of perspective here, Clay,
all right, just forget about the bet, forget about you know,
the endurance of Buck Island. Just it's just it's like
Buck Island took a category.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I almost spit my drink up just at the endurance
of island.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
We have people just we're canoeing around and we got
kayaks out and we're doing Buck Island got hit with
a hurricane. Yes, so there's no question, but we abide,
We endured. Are you absolutely mind blown that Joe Biden
has even been able to hang on this long? Yes, yes,
I am beyond stunned. I mean, there are five new

(13:33):
Democrats today that have come out and said Biden must
step down.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
The RNC is over Trump.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
You can't argue that Trump isn't in a commanding position
and Biden, I mean, Biden can barely even walk up
the stairs of Air Force One. He looks like he
might die every step that he takes, and he's hidden
away somewhere in his beach house. I do have to say,
I am astounded at his stubbornness so far.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yes, I just I just want to sell all together record.
It is a truly remarkable and crazy thing that shoe Biden.
So if he does for some reason, if it does
happen in a Sunday or a week or whatever, it
just goes to show you what we've been saying about Biden,
that he is obsessed with power, a narcissist delusion. All
of that is absolutely true. But we'll get into more

(14:25):
of this well. Also, you know, we didn't get to
take many calls play because we had so many great
guests at the R and C. So you know, obviously
r RNC has concluded, let's take some calls today eight
hundred two two two eight a two. We can talk
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Speaker 1 (15:58):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Let me also say this,
you guys all over Milwaukee were absolutely amazing Buck and
I everywhere that we went staff we have the number
one show. I'm we're in the Milwaukee studio right now
of our affiliate. We have the number one show in

(16:22):
Milwaukee thanks to this fabulous station that we are on
right now, and we met you guys all over the place.
The number of volunteers that we're trying to make sure
that the RNC went as well as possible on streets everywhere,
inside of buildings, answering questions. It was incredible to see,

(16:48):
and all the way up through last night, I really
appreciate everybody coming up and saying Buck's done for I
really hope you enjoy your stake.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's well deserved.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
That you cash this win because you've been so perfect
and so right on all this And I'm not kidding Buck.
Last night walking through five Serve and even we had
the Jason Aldan concert right after the right after the
RNC that didn't end to what guys like one thirty
in the morning, I think was basically when Jason Alden

(17:21):
left the stage one thirty Central Time, so super late
into the night. Jason Aldean really great. Tens of thousands
of people showed up for that, but there were people
coming up all night at that concert as well, saying, man, hey,
Clay really gonna enjoy that stake. But we were just
talking about this off air, Buck the Biden. I don't

(17:44):
know how many true believers are left inside of the
Biden twenty twenty four campaign. What do you think how
many I understand people come out as they say, you know,
we're never gonna surrender we're gonna run. We're running the campaign.
How many true believers outside of the Biden family itself
do you think are left in the twenty twenty four
campaign who legitimately believe he's going to be the candidate.

(18:07):
I actually think the number is much higher than people realize.
And I will tell you that. I also had people yesterday,
a lot of them. They were dancing on the grave
of Buck Island as it was sliding beneath the waves.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
It was going to become a scuba only attraction.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Buck Island.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
But no, sure enough, it rose back up from the depths.
And let me say why, or get into why. I
think that has happened, at least for now. And I'm
going to tell you this. If it doesn't happen this weekend,
if it doesn't go down by you know, Sunday or
Monday morning, then that means that they've decided it's no
longer a conversation with Biden. They're going to try to coerce,

(18:48):
meaning you know, Hunters. Maybe I don't know, maybe Hunter's
sentence gets a little longer. I know that he can
pardon him, but you know, maybe somebody brings state charges. Yeah,
who knows. I'm telling you they're going to be at
that point. It's not hey, Joe, we really need you
to step down. It's step down or Jill is never
gonna be invited to another Democrat event for the rest
of her life, you know what I mean. Like, it's

(19:10):
gonna get ugly, ugly at that point. That's what I
think is pretty clear. The reason there are still Biden
true believers, and they're not believers that Biden is great,
but their believers that Biden should stay in is I
still think Joe Biden. You cannot show me a poll
that will change my mind on this. I think Joe
Biden has a better shot to pull off the most

(19:32):
you know, out of left field. And I know some
of your like it's not a left field because we
know what they're gonna do. But I think he's a
stronger candidate than Kamala Harris, even in this current state.
Remember I've been saying for two years they will wheel
him out onto the stage with a blanket across his
knees and a sippy cup in his hand if they
think that he's their best shot. And I think, I mean, Clay,

(19:55):
do you think Kamalo really has a better shot. I
was hearing people Yester saying any moment now they're gonna
say it's Kamala Whitmer, Kamala sends Witmer comes in. But
then later on yesterday, you know what the reporting was.
Nobody wants to be Kamala's vice. Why would you want
to be Kamala's vice. You're going into You're going up
against the Trump juggernaut. You're not in the top job.

(20:19):
You're attaching yourself to a ticket that is in that
would be formed with only a couple of months ago.
There'd be disarray. So I'm not even sure you can
get as a vice on Kamala's ticket. The people that
everyone's talking about. You have to think about this as
individual incentives. The individual incentive for Joe Biden to step

(20:40):
down is zero, meaning Biden gets nothing. It's his choice.
If he runs and wins, Clay, he's a hero. If
he runs and wins, he's FDR. I mean, he's a
Democrat royal for all time. If he runs and loses,
guess what, no worse off than if he steps down today.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
He's also FDR in that FDR died soon after his
election in nineteen forty four, and they hid all of
his mental and physical frailties at that point. Now, I
would argue historically that might have made sense because we
were in the middle of a fighting legit Nazis in

(21:22):
the World War War two, but that analogy could play.
Let me say two things here. I agree with you,
although in terms of Kamala, I think she might have
better appeal in New York City, in Houston, in Atlanta,
in LA with some black voters than Joe Biden does.

(21:45):
I don't think that's crazy. The problem is, I think
this election is going to be decided quite clearly in Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin, and I think a lot of older, middle income,
lower middle income white swing voters like Joe Biden far
more than they like Kamala Harris. So it could be

(22:06):
the case that Kamala could be stronger. The problem is
she's stronger in a lot of places where Democrats are
either going to win big or already lose, and she's
worse in those Midwest battleground states.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
That's correct, I totally agree with that. I think the
numbers all all support that as we've seen them so far,
and I've said it before Biden's eight years as Obama's
VP had created a bond with black voters and Joe Biden.
And I've been told this by friends and colleagues in
the past who were black Democrat voters themselves. So this

(22:43):
is real. There's a sense that Biden was Obama. Whether
Obama and Biden actually like each other or not is irrelevant.
You're talking about public perception, not the behind closed doors reality.
And Kamala Harris, I've said that's her. I'm telling you
her main constituency is CNN executives. Her main constituency is
the editorial pages of the New York Times. It is

(23:05):
elite Democrat IVY or sub ivy league, you know, consensus.
It is not everyday voters, which we saw this in
the twenty twenty election and the Democrat primary. So this
is why, you know, when the question is asked, well,
are there any true believers yet? If we had a
Biden Stafford Clay sit down and make the case to

(23:27):
us that Biden is still a better candidate than Kamala Harris,
I'd be sitting there nodding my head with all the data,
all the reasons why. So that's why I think he's
still been able to stay in I.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Do think, by the way you mentioned the idea of
Kamala Whitmer, I do think that if she picked Shapiro
in Pennsylvania, for instance, that might be enough to win
one of those states in the Midwest, if she got
the right running mate. And I think that's why, honestly
that Trump's selection of JD. Vance and just parking him

(23:59):
in the Midway West is sort of a counter to
that already, even if that is their play.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, it protects is Midwest flank, if you will. I
think that even with a Gretchen Whitmer ticket, let's I
mean say, Kamala Gretchen Whitmer, which is I heard you
know from sources yesterday that this is what was about
to break. It didn't break, but it could still a
Kamala Gretchen Whitmer ticket. Would they win Michigan. Yes, I
actually think they might be able to. I think Michigan

(24:27):
goes Democrat. Oh, but I think I think Virginia gets
really interesting for Republicans, you know, I think Minnesota. I
think there are a number of states that all of
a sudden Democrats would say, oh my gosh, we're hemorrhaging
support in because older white working class voters and older
black voters still like Joe Biden more than they like

(24:50):
Kamala and Gretchen Whitmer.

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into your calls later on this hour as well. I
wanted to note that last night there were some phenomenal speeches,
the biggest one of course being President Trump himself. But
I don't know how. I think that we have a
lot of you that are of the same guys of
roughly the same age as Clay and me, and you

(27:57):
probably have the same feelings about this individual that we do,
which is just when you were a young guy, Hulk
Hogan was just the coolest guy in the world, like
like circa nineteen ninety, right, Hulk Hogan was just the best,
and he made Terry what's his real at Terry Terry Billia?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
I think Terry Billia, that's right.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
So Terry Billia aka Hulk Hogan was there last night,
and brother, he was there for you to play one.
What gonna do when Donald Tump and all the top
of maniacs run wild on you? Brother Biden's. Biden's answer,
by the way resounding answer is huh what, no idea?

(28:42):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well? What's crazy? You shared this?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
And I think it speaks to the tone deafness. The
Biden Harris campaign team shared this as if it were
some maga crazy threat, which just makes me think, did.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
You see this?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
There's such a there's such.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
A they don't even know that that's a famous Hulk
Cogan slogan and not an actual Somebody tweeted that they
were waiting for CNN to fact check Hulk Cogan and
be like he is not actually speaking to his brother,
you know, like you know, just like running through all
of his on the mic commentary. But I saw when,

(29:22):
like when I saw the Biden Harris teams share that,
I just thought to myself, are they actually working for Trump?
Like has Trump taken over the Biden Harris campaign's slogan,
because are they just filled with that many imbeciles that
they thought in some way that's like some existential threat
of violence.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I don't even understand what they could be thinking.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Of the lamest things about the lamestream media, they're make believe.
The game that they play that they can't understand Trump
jokes or Maga jokes is one of the most annoying
because it's so it doesn't work, it's dumb. It's just
it's their version of I know you are, but what
am I? Or you know?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Giving us like the it'sist, but they do it.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I don't know they they're so deranged about Trump that
they pretend they can't get jokes. For those of us
who have a sense of humor about anything and understand
that last night was also about pageantry and showmanship. That's
what a convention, a political convention is. It's meant to
be a visual, it's meant to be a spectacle. It
was awesome to have Hulk Hogan there doing his thing,

(30:30):
and he's also I'll say this, there's nostalgia behind it, sure,
but hul Cogan also takes us back to an era, right,
because he got really big in the late eighties and
the early nineties, right, Well, that was really his front.
He takes us back to a time when American flags
and pride in your americanness and Americanism was expected. It,

(30:52):
it was celebrated, it was something to just be happy about.
It's the Democrat party of the twenty first century that is,
by their own admission, in some cases, frightened of the
American flag and Americana. So Hulk's a throwback. But Clay,
I think he also shows how much things have changed
because Democrats look at him like, oh my gosh, why
is he wearing that tie?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Those the T shirt that he's ripping up. It's so
hyper masculine.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well it takes me back for instance, And you guys
can fact check me on this if I'm wrong, but
I believe the nineteen eighty eight Olympics were in Seoul,
in Korea, and I was at that point in time
nine years old, and that is basically the apex of

(31:38):
when Hulk Cogan was becoming an absolute global superstar. It
continued from there, and you could say he was a
superstar on either side of that. But what I remember
about that as you are just bringing up is we're
going to have the Olympics start in just a couple
of weeks in Paris, maybe a week, whatever the math
is on that. I remember watching the nineteen eighty eight
Olympics and rooting as as hard as I could for

(32:01):
Americans to win every single medal. And I remember old
school day, Buck, you would pull up the newspaper and
it was a really big deal which country won the
most medals.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Do you remember all that? Like how much the nationalism
there was to root for your country?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Patriotism was cool. We grew up in an era where
patriotism was cool, and filthy commies in this country who
hated their own country were treated like the filthy commies
they are. That that transformed, That changed, starting I would
say in the mid nineties and then into the early

(32:37):
two thousands, although nine to eleven I think put a
there was a momentary pause on the hating of patriotism,
and then they got back to hating patriotism a few
years into the Bush term, or maybe two years into
the Bush term. But Hulk Hogan represents an era where
our cultural icons were still expected our American cultural icons

(32:59):
were still expected to love America and that is absolutely
no longer the case. Unfortunately, it's very you know, whether
it's the you know, the kneeling and like the US
women's soccer teams. I mean, we could go all day
all these different people who elevate themselves by lowering and
demeaning this the greatest country in all human history. That's

(33:20):
been a that's a troubling cultural and political shift. And
I think Hulk Hogan is a He harkens back to
the era where everyone loved the American flag.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
And I would argue too, people are gonna get fired
up about this. Hulk Cogan may be the greatest sports
entertainer of all time. I don't know who else you
would put on that category now. And again, I'm not
saying he's Michael Jordan. I'm not saying he's Babe Ruth.
I'm not saying he's the greater you can't say athlete,
you said sports entertainments entertainer. I don't know that anybody

(33:49):
is better than him. And what it also epitomized to
me from this convention, and I thought yesterday very much
epitomized at buck Republicans have become the party of on
when's the last time that you saw Democrats and they
just looked like they were having a really good time.
Maybe eight Obama, It's been a long time where you

(34:12):
put it on and there was just a joy and
an effervescence associated with it. Whether it's kid rock, and
by the way, the reaction shots of some of the
RNC members trying to dance to kid Rock was funny.
But Hault Cogan, Dana White, just this personification of American badass,
nests and fun. I think that carries through. I think

(34:33):
it's infectious, and I don't think Democrats are always like
upset now about fun or people who have success or
people who are having a good time. And I think
that carries through and conveys, particularly with young men who
I believe are breaking Republican in a big way right now. Yes,
it's more than just a party or a politician.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
It's a movement.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Maga, maga. However you choose to say you have people
that I don't remember unless you were at a political rally.
I don't remember ever seeing people walking around, particularly wearing
Bush Cheney gear. Yeah, Trump has merchandise swag. He's got
stuff that people wear all the time. You go out

(35:18):
in certain parts of the country, like where Clay is
up in the Panhandle, and you'll see photos or you'll
see it you're with your own eyes of boats that
have Trump flags, Like there's just a there's a sense
of unity and of fun, and also just there's a culture.

(35:38):
Trumps has cultural implications and you saw that on display
last night. As for what he actually said, let's get
into some of what Trump's messaging was, because I thought,
you know, it's interesting people are saying, oh, we spoke
too long. Well, that's what Trump does. And I would
say the first thirty minutes were remarkable and historic and
truly moving, and the rest of it was Trump being

(36:00):
and a lot of people, especially given what happened with
a bullet scraping his head and other bullets just barely
missing him, they really appreciated that Trump could get up there,
and do you know, they wanted as much Trump as
they could get on that stage. It was a reassurance,
I think, to a lot of people who truly believe

(36:21):
in Trump and the movement he represents. It was reassurance
that he's definitely okay, because he's really being Trump up there,
you know, and sure he maybe has a new perspective
on things which anybody would after a near death experience
like that, and that is certainly what it was. But
I think it was reassuring to the Trump faithful that
he's able to get up there do what he did.

(36:41):
And it also, by the way, Clay is quite a
juxtaposition between Biden, who is still and I'm seeing the
troubling reports that Biden may be dropping out on Sunday.
I'm seeing them, don't they I will not I will
not waiver. I will never surrender Clay until I am
totally defeated. I mean, we may wake up one day

(37:02):
in Buck Island may have been hit by a tidal wave.
It no longer exists, and historians will wonder where it was.
But for now the island end yours. But Biden can't
get up, and can't get up and do the debate
for ninety minutes, we all saw that he really can't
get up and do very much at all in public.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Trump can go.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Off the cuff for I mean, I think he probably
just got tired because it was midnight. I mean, Trump
could go up there and do a three hour stage
show by himself any day of the week and it
would be entertaining, and he would go off prompter and
we'll play some of those cuts for you as he
went off prompter. But to me, the first thirty minutes
is probably where seventy five or eighty percent of people

(37:40):
are watching. Then it gets late on the East Coast.
People got kids put to bed, they've got to take
care of their nightly obligations.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
A lot of you just get tired.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
But one thing that I haven't heard anybody say is
by speaking long, Trump basically cut any of the criticism
of him out of CNN and m snbc's viewership because
by the time he finished, it was after midnight on
the East Coast, and most of the reactions, whatever they
were going to be positive or negative, people turned off

(38:11):
their televisions and went to bed. If he had done
a thirty five minute speech, there would have been still
a substantial audience for an hour of people reacting to
what he said. Instead, most people when Trump finished just
turned off their televisions. And this morning, the narrative cycle
has already moved from Hey, what happened at the RNC

(38:31):
to what's Biden going to do? We're right back to
where we were before the RNC started. The new movie
is the same as the old movie, and it is
what are democrats going to do? And I do think
that is an intriguing aspect of this. We'll play a
couple of cuts for you from Trump when we come back,
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Speaker 3 (40:17):
All right, welcome back in team. We are gonna take
your calls. If you're on hold, stay with us. We'll
get to that in just a few moments. Also, we
have a stacked guest lineup. We have so many people
who we really want to talk to the R and
C that we we did some interviews that we're going
to play for you here. Coming up shortly, Eric Prince,
founder of Blackwater, straight up ask him you're gonna serve

(40:40):
as Secretary of Defense under Trump? Hear what he says.
Tennessee Representative Mark Green, Kevin Roberts, who's the president of
the Heritage Foundation, gold Star Family member Darren Hoover, who's
the father of Staff Sergeant Taylor Hoover, who lost his
life serving his country in Afghanistan during the disastrous Biden withdrawal.
He was at the gate where the two side bomb
went off. But we'll get to all of us really

(41:04):
amazing interviews coming up here in the third hour. He
meant to tell you at the top of our one,
but please stay with us for that. And then you know,
it was I think the whole speech last night that
Trump gave Clay as we're watching, it was ninety minutes.
It is a look, don't do a ninety minute wedding toast.
I'm just telling you right now, keep your speeches and
your toast generally on the short side. For all of us,

(41:24):
you know, Trump is superhuman, but for most of us
who want to keep it shorter, well, there was the
one part of it that we all agree was particularly memorable,
emotional and profound, something stirring in the American soul just
to hear the words from President Trump, and it was
when he described what happened to him last weekend in

(41:44):
the assassination attempt. We just wanted to share this with
you because honestly, it touched all of us as we
were watching, and it touched our hearts and listen.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Behind me and to the right was a large screen
that was displaying a chart of border crossings under my leadership.
The numbers were absolutely amazing. In order to see the chart,
I started to like this, turned to my right and

(42:20):
was ready to begin a little bit further turn, which
I'm very lucky I didn't do. When I heard a
loud whizzing sound and felt something hit me really really hard.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
On my right ear.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
I said to myself, wow, what was that. It can
only be a bullet and moved my right hand to
my ear brought it down. My hand was covered with blood,
just absolutely blood all over the place. I immediately knew it
was very serious that we were under attack, and in

(43:05):
one movement, proceeded to drop to the ground. Bullets were
continuing to fly as very brave Secret Service agents rushed
to the stage, and they really did.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
They rushed to the start.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Those are great people at great risk, I will tell you,
and pounced on top of me so that I would
be protected. There was blood pouring everywhere, and yet in
a certain way, I felt very safe because I had
God on my side.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I felt that.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
The amazing thing is that prior to the shot, if
I had not moved my head at that very last instant,
the assassin's bullet would have perfectly hit its mark, and
I would not be here tonight.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
We would not be together, Clay, it was. It was
emotional to be at the RNC as Trump is saying this.
It was emotional.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Carrie was tearing up.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
She told me when this was going on.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
So many people in the audience were tearing up because
we almost we almost lost Trump. Not he almost lost
an election. We almost lost our guy, President Trump to
violence in an election, to an assassin's bullet. And I
know it's on the one hand, it shakes you to
your core to just think about it and to think

(44:59):
about what would have happened to the country. But I
do try to take the positive from it of what
a gift we are in this period right now of
Trump is okay. I understand we talked about the Corey
Compori who lost his lost his life. I understand that
it was a disaster from a Secret Service perspective, But

(45:20):
for the nation and for the future of politics in
this country and just our national soul, we were given
a reprieve. We were given a second chance here. Trump
was given a second chance, but so were all the
rest of us. And we talked to with the rn
C chair yesterday. For people who missed it, I haven't

(45:40):
heard him say this anywhere else or read anyone right
about it. He said that there's no way the RNC
would have taken place in Milwaukee this week if Trump
had been shot. I mean, we would all be in
the midst of funeral preparations, arrangements for Donald Trump. And
as you mentioned, Corey comparatory right now in Pennsylvania, they

(46:05):
are having his funeral. And I think it's important to
recognize that the Secret Service futility cost him his life,
and Trump paid tribute to him. We have that cut six.
Let's play that as well, because there was a cost here. Thankfully,
the two other people who were hit, according to what
Trump said last night, it appears that they are going

(46:26):
to survive. But this dad, this husband, he died because
of Social Security, Social Secret Service failure, just like Trump
nearly did. Here's Trump paying tribute to him. Cut six.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
I want to thank the fire department and the family
for sending his helmet, his outfit, and it was just something,
and they're going to do something very special when they
get it. But we did something which cannot match what happened,
not even close. But I am very proud to say
that over the past few days we've raised six point

(47:02):
three million dollars for the families of David, James and Corey,
including from a friend of mine.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Just called up. He's sent me a check right here.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
I just got it one million dollars from Dan Newland.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Thank you, Dan, really very I thought powerful moment as
Trump acknowledged that dad and that husband's death, one hundred
percent innocent Trump supporter could have been any of you
out there listening right now who've ever been to a
Trump rally. And on Monday, the director of the Secret

(47:47):
Service is going to have to testify in front of Congress.
But to me, if you talk about Biden's weakness and
his inability to lead, not demanding that woman's reside nation
or firing her. By the time we got to Sunday
and knew enough of the evidence surrounding this, the incompetence

(48:10):
of the Secret Service protection that day is only getting
worse as more of the details come out. And as
we said on Monday Show, this is not some brilliant
strategic plan of attack that had never been seen before
in the annals of the presidency or American assassination attempts.

(48:30):
The guy climbed on top of the most self evident
location that you could attempt to shoot Trump from, and
was able to do so. It is a failure of
epic magnitude that nearly threw this country into complete chaos.
And only by the grace of God are we still
able to have a normal political discussion at all.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
That's how I like to think of this is we
were all given a second chance. You know. There's a
very famous quote by Marcus Aurelia and Meditations, which is
Marcus Aurelis is kind of diary, if you will, and
a lot of the other A lot of I should
say stoic philosophers have become very popular in recent years,
especially on social media. But the Marcus Aurelius quote is

(49:14):
think of yourself as dead. You have lived your life.
Now take what's left and live it properly. There is
a perspective that comes from almost losing your life, and
as a nation, I think we almost lost our political system.
To be honest with you, I don't know what happens
if Trump I honestly can't even really go there because
it's just so horrible for the country. But now we

(49:36):
recognize the path that we are on with greater clarity,
I think than ever before. And Trump certainly does and
that was evident from everything at the r and see
that he was saying, and just the energy and the
people around him. So let's make the most of this
second chance that we got in this election. But also

(49:57):
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