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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The Republican National Convention officially complete, absolute home run for
the RNC, for the Republican Party, for Donald Trump, well organized, unifying,
and now all of the focus moves back to Buck
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Island and Joe Biden and the disunity that is on
the side of the Democrat Party. But I thought last night,
particularly in the first thirty or forty five minutes of
what I found to be a captivating beginning of his speech.
To be fair, I thought he could have cut off
Donald Trump a half hour of the speech and it
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would have been as effective, or even potentially more effective.
But I thought the first thirty or forty five minutes,
which is when the vast majority of people on the
East Coast are awake and paying attention, I thought it
was an absolute home run for Donald Trump. And as
we sit here now on the Friday after the RNC,
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it feels like Republicans have solidified their lead and now
Democrats are in scramble mode to figure out what they're
going to be capable of buck. I don't know about you,
and maybe it's just our age, but Hulk Hogan ripping
off his shirt at the RNC, to me was one
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of the most incredibly iconic moments, and I thought it
personified for me what has become true in this election cycle,
which I think many of you feel but hadn't quite
crystallized until now. Trump has become the cooler, younger, hipper
candidate than any thing the Democrats are offering right now.
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And I thought some of I understand some of you
are not kid rock fans, and maybe some of you
didn't like Dana White, and maybe you didn't like Hulk Hogan,
but I'm telling you, if you're in your twenties or thirties,
you probably did.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
A situation like this where Republicans have come out this
unified in the twenty first century.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
How did you take sort of the whole four days?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Now as we can textualize and contemplate what happened here
in Milwaukee, I.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Don't think the RNC could have gone any better on
a political front. On the logistics side of things, I
think they did a phenomenal job. I think that it
was much more meaningful and honestly emotional than any of
us had anticipated because of what had happened to President Trump.
When you looked around last night, in the first the
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first twenty or thirty minutes of the speech, was truly moved.
I not somebody who feels a lot of stirring emotions
because of political speeches. And I was watching it and
just saying to myself, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's a reminder of what could have been.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
And you looked around that crowd play and people were
tearing up just as Trump was describing what happened, and
I just think that there was I'll tell you this,
so many of our people, and one of the night
one of the nicest things for us is that we
get to see so many of our listeners, which is great.
I mean, it's only a small.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Fraction of the overall listeners. Were very blessed.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
But to just see our people and have them want
to talk to us and say they appreciate the show
and say that Rush would be proud, and that always
makes us feel really good. We had so many of
those people, so many of you saying that to us
who were there, but also going around and seeing our
media colleagues play. Everybody had this sense of gratitude and destiny.
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That's what I would say, gratitude for the miracle of
Donald Trump being okay. I feel like every day at
that RNC you just had to think to yourself, what
would have happened, what could have what almost did happen,
And then the fact that it was a true celebration.
There was a lot of gratitude, a lot of gratitude
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for that, and then the sense of destiny just that
this is now a United Republican Party and a party
that is already seeming to be looking to the future
for what can be accomplished, much more so than it
is bogged down in the trench warfare of the election,
so to speak. So anyway, I thought it was I
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thought it was really really special, and I was very
glad that we were there and able to see everybody.
And I just think that Trump's speech last night it
went beyond political claud do you know what I mean.
It wasn't just a stump speech. It was a gut
check moment for the country, and it was stirring to
the soul to hear Donald Trump speak about what he
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faced and the perspective that he has now on life
and on his mission. So honestly, I thought it was magnificent.
I thought it was incredibly powerful. And also Buck Island
is alive and well today, so everything is good, everybody,
everything is good right now?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You know Biden's team. Do you want to say it, Clay?
Do you want to say it? Everyoney?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Oh Buck, Clay's gonna get the most expensive stake ever
because Biden's gone.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
How could you doubt me at this point? Guys, They've
dragged it out to this point. Think about this.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
There's so much madness just in this basic idea that
Biden could even be in the.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Mix on July nineteenth of twenty twenty four. What do
you think, Clay? Huh? I still think he's gone.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And by the way, the gambling odds are at roughly
eighty percent. They got up to non percent last night.
But it's a mess. And and this was my concern,
was that Republicans, by having the convention, were going to
take the story back away from Joe Biden and Democrat
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incompetence and the lack of unity inside of that party.
As we are sitting here on Friday, headed into the weekend,
Republicans have never been more unified. Even Republicans who said
I'll never vote for Donald Trump as recently like Utah's governor,
as like ten days ago, are now coming out and saying,
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you know what a bond reflection, I am going to
vote for Trump. There's more unity than we've ever seen.
And the story immediately pivots back to Democrats. Now, Look,
I hope Joe Biden stays in because just they said, oh,
he's going to be back on the campaign trail as
soon as he's done with COVID. That's the best thing
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that could happen to Republicans. The more Biden is out
there stumbling, bumbling, fumbling around all over the country that
every single day, the more people look at this and say, yeah,
there's no way possible that I could ever go out
and vote for Joe Biden as president. And I hope
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Buck Island stays strong. I hope you are fortifying the ramparts.
I hope you have an impregnable position, because if he's
the nominee, buying you a stake will be the most
enjoyable steak that I have ever bought, because I do
not see any way possible that Biden will be elected
president in twenty twenty four. Now, when I say that
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all of you go vote, I want all of you
to go vote early. I want all of you to
bank your ballots. I want all that to happen. So
don't mistake what I'm saying by looking at the overall
landscape as in urging you not to be steadfast in
your voting.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But are you with me?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I just I don't see any way, sort of sadly,
and we got to protect him Donald Trump getting killed
that Joe Biden could end up winning this election.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I'm not as sanguine as you are about our prospects,
just because I think that when you're talking about such
a small margin as the difference, and I understand, we
see these numbers and we say, oh my gosh, he's up,
you know, seven percent or five percent in some of
these swing states, depending on the state. We're still looking
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at now, tens of thousands of votes.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
It's not that much.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's not that big, right when you actually look at
what the vote differential would be, again depends some stage
of much bigger populations than others. But even when you're
when you're seeing this, Clay, I think through the lens
of the poll. If you believe the polls are accurate,
and I think right now there's no reason to think
they're not accurate, then you're still within strike striking distance.
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And Democrats, Clay, look at the dirty tricks they've been
willing to pull up to this point. Nothing is off
the table for them when it comes to power. Nothing
is off the table when it comes to stopping Donald Trump.
And I think that we shouldn't lull ourselves into the
belief that they have been They feel chastised about their
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lunacy when it comes to Trump. I think because you know,
the Republican Party seems so unified, and Trump is now
an iconic, a truly iconic and historic figure after what
happened that photo. In a hundred years, there will be
kids sitting in classrooms looking at that photo of Donald
Trump and saying, oh my gosh. Really so Democrats are
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a little stunned, no question.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But uh, Clay, I mean, Joe Biden's president right now.
We can't ignore that. Joe Biden's president. Now, everybody, that's insane.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
They turned the turnip into the president, so we can
underestimate them.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I think where we're headed, is that they are going
to ratchet this up to the point you have said,
and I think there's a lot of truth to it.
They can't force Biden out. I get it. It makes
total sense. Hey, we can't actually force him out. There's
nothing that can be done, campaign memo out that Biden's
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in the race. I wonder whether they might get so
desperate Buck that they say we're going to twenty fifth
Amendment you unless you drop out, because that's the humiliation
they could actually control. They could basically force him to
walk out of the White House. I don't know if
they're willing to do it, but if you think about
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basically the nuclear option as it pertains the Democrats, that's
their trunk card, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
You're familiar. I'm sure it's one of the one of
the most well known ones. The parable of the scorpion
of the frog, right in this case, for sure, In
this case, Biden is the frog and the Democrat Party
or the scorpion, because he's their guy. He's the only
one right now that makes the choice of going from
one side for just soever knows right. The frog is
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asked by the scorpion, take me across the river, and
the frog goes, no, you're gonna sting me, And the
scorpion goes, I wouldn't do that because then we'll both drown.
And then the scorpion gets on the frog's back and
he goes to swim to the other side, and the
scorpion in the middle of the river stings the frog,
and the frog the last thing he says is what
are you doing now? We're both gonna die. The scorpion says,
it's in my nature. That's what scorpions do. The Democrats
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would be insane to do the twenty fifth Amendment. That
would be the scorpions stinging the frog, because it guarantees
an election loss. Because then we haven't even gotten to
what are the Republicans going to say about all this clay?
They're gonna say the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Is such a a cluster, such.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
A mess, a catastrophe that they couldn't even agree whether
their own pre and it is basically crazy, and so
they had to use the twenty fifth.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Medican Here what I'm gonna blow your mind here with
what they'll actually say. They will say, this demonstrates why
Kamala Harris should be president because she's willing to make
the hardest possible decision because she loves her country more
than she is uh than she is willing to protect
Joe Biden. I'm telling you that is the way they
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would spin this the media that would actually work.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
At Clay, I think that's I think that's flimsy. It's
like it's like saying kamal as the borders are. They
can say it, but don't make it good.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Well, but then she would get to run as the incumbent.
I'm not saying they would do it. I'm saying it's
their final threat if Biden won't relinquish power they threaten
him with. Remember when they went the Republicans went to
the White House with Nixon and they said the votes
are there for impeachment and Nixon walked. They they basically
wasn't willing to call their bluff.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Is Biden just just give me a moment of perspective here, Clay,
all right, just forget about the bet, forget about you know,
the endurance of Buck Island. Just it just it's like
Buck Island took a category. Yes, I almost spit my
drink up just at the endurance of island.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Man.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We have people just we're canoeing around and we got
kayaks out and we're doing Buck Island got hit with
a hurricane. Yes, so there's no question, but we abide,
We endured. Are you absolutely mind blown that Joe Biden
has even been able.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
To hang on this long? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yes, I am beyond stunned. I mean, there are five
new Democrats today that have come out and said Biden
must step down.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
The RNC is over Trump.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You can't argue that Trump isn't in a commanding position
and Biden, I mean, Biden can barely even walk up
the stairs of Air Force One. He looks like he
might die every step that he takes. And he's hidden
away somewhere at his beach house. I do have to say,
I am astounded at his stubbornness so far.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yes, I just I just want to sell all together record.
It is a truly remarkable and crazy thing that Joe Biden.
So if he does for some reason, if it does
happen in a Sunday or a week or whatever, it
just goes to show you what we've been saying about Biden,
that he is obsessed with power, a narcissist delusion.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
All of that is absolutely true. But we'll get into
more of this.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Well.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Also, you know, we didn't get to take many calls
Clay because we had so many great guests of the
R and C.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So you're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact
with Clay and.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Buck Join now by Eric Trump, And we were just
talking about your dad's the way that he walked into
the RNC last night. You were there, you saw it.
But I want to start because I said I was
going to ask you this question. You got two young kids,
six year old, four year old. He's grandpa to your kids,
while he may well be the next president of the country. Again,
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where were you when you saw what happened at the rally?
What was your reaction? And what has your dad been
We had him on the show Friday. He was fantastic,
But what has he been like so that you've seen
him in the last seventy two hours basically since that happened.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Yeah, Well, I was saying, they're watching with my kids
on the couch. You know, the shots broke. I'm a shooter.
I know that sound very very well, and my heart sank, right.
I mean, obviously you see him go down, you see
grab his head, he goes down and then you know,
at that point he's behind the stanchions, those you know
stanches up front, which you know are meant to take bullets,
but obviously they're coming in from from high all secret
service agents, you know, jump on him, and you know, frankly,
there's a good chance he was dead. It literally, I mean,
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it's divine and advenure, what do you whatever? We want
to call it, right, I'm not a mushi guy, but
it's I mean, that bullet literally graced his ear. It
took off part of his ear, Like you don't get
closer to death than that in life. Had he not
turned up the last second, he would have been dead.
And so my heart sank. Obviously he came up. You know,
there's blood all over the face, blood on the side
of the you know. So again we didn't know if
he hit the torso we didn't, you know, know how
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he was doing. And then he put up his hand
and he said, fight, fight, fight, And.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
What was it like to see your dad in that moment?
I can't even describe for everyone else. It's probably the
most iconic political moment of any of our lives. And
I've never seen people so fired off, so joyous, you know,
to go from that the low which you just described
with oh my god, why don't they know what has
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happened to Trump? To your dad too, he's okay, and
also this guy is like Leonidas in three hundred or something.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
It was amazing, Yeah, no question. Then to go to
the even higher of that, right, I mean, obviously he
gets up, but we still don't know. You see, he's okay,
He's being rushed to the emergency room, and you know,
all sorts of vehicles with machine guns all over him
and everything else. I mean it was. But then exactly
forty eight hours later, I was the delegate from Florida, Yes,
so cast the deciding vote that made him the Republican
nominee to President of the United States. And I looked
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at Laura last night I said, I don't think there's
ever been kind of the stachotomy of two sides. I mean,
he punched in the stomach, thinking he was possibly dead
on the ground with Secret Service agents lying on top
of him, to obviously making him the Republican nominee, to
then seeing him walk into the convention last night, the
first time he's really been seen since that shooting, and
there was kind of a somberness to him last night,
you know.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
And we think he walks with an aura of destiny.
That's what we've been saying. That's what it feels like
as an observer. I can't imagine when it's like being
as close to it as you are with your dad
being the guy who is the guy.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I've seen a time and time again over the last
eight years. Is the way that Pinsulim has shifted, right.
I mean every single time, there's no question that there's
somebody's hand on him, and you know, somebody's watching down
and protecting him. But that was way too close and
it shouldn't have happened. It should have never happened. And
let's I give a lot of credit to the Secret
Service agents on that stage, right. I mean, people are
trying to take shots at everybody. I know, those agents
and these are people who love him, adore him. The
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female and that you know in that picture that's become
very famous. She was with me for three years when
I had Secret Service. One of the kindest, nicest but
by the way best shooters in the Secret Service because
I shoot with all those guys, and I mean she's
she's as good as it comes, and I can only
imagine how that crushed her soul. This somebody failed on
the outside and allowed that to happen. Somebody let an
assault rifle within one hundred and fifty yards of the
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President of the United States. That's a chip shot, right,
that should have never happened before. I mean, it's I'm
sure you saw last night. They asked Joe Biden, well, basically,
were there going to be any consequences, and he said,
I've talked to him evidently forgetting that he has a
female head of the Secret Service, is there any doubt
in your mind.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
That she should go?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Just based on how big of a failure that was
to allow that to occur.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
It is the greatest failure I think in the history
of our government. And I'm not putting that on the
agents on stage again. I would do anything for those guys.
Let me just reiterate your listeners. They are the greatest people.
They were willing to take a bullet for him, and
had it not been for the countersniper teams, and I've
shot with those guys and they're the real deal. They're
they're the best of the best.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Had it not been for there, you would have had
dead agents on that stage as well. You would have
had a dead former president, a dead future president, and
you would have had dead agents on that stage had
not been for the CS guys. But somebody really screwed
the pooch on this one. They really really messed up
and it should not have happened. I mean it is
a failure. And the fact that Biden didn't know. But listen,
I had the Secret Service came from Pepsi. I mean,
why wuldn't you come from Pepsi. I mean that seems
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like a guys, this country needs to change. It's insane.
I mean, all this DEI stuff is It's just insane.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Do you I mean you would know this, do you?
Your dad the top people around advising him. Are you
already thinking about who's going to go? Everyone talks about
secretary of State. There are certain roles right that people
play this parlor game. If you will, look where they're
going to go. No one ever thinks of Secret Service director.
I know it's under DHS, but people don't think of
necessarily some of those agency positions. But having been to
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the big dance, so to speak, once as the president
and having been there by your dad, as he did it.
Are you already thinking about that next tier, especially on
the security, national security side of things. Who can clean
these places up? Because the culture is I mean I
can speak from the CIA side. I have a lot
of friends still in there. The culture is messed up.
It's not just people are making mistakes.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
You better believe that's gonna be his number one priority
on day one. Is any house in these shops that
are just out of control? See how I mean? Listen,
I thought the whole Russia hoaxs invesciesch. I was the
guy that got the phone call, right, I got the
call from New York Times, the Washington Post. I hear
there are secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower
that are communicating directly with the Kremlin. I go, first
of all, we're like a cloud based company, so we
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don't have server. Second of all, you don't put servers
and basements because basement's flood. So let's just start the office.
And they let that crap go on for three years.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
They paided two nuclear superpowers against each other for the
sake of trying to get Hillary an extra three votes.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
All right, let's just let's be honest with who these
people are. They knew it was a sham day one,
and they let it go on and hang over the presidency.
That's how bad it is. Believe me, this problem will
be taken care of on day one. He knows the bad,
he knows the good, he knows how the system works,
he knows how the system has targeted him, and you
better believe me, they'll get cleaned up. And you better
believe me there will be there'll be changes made in
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that organization.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
As a son, somebody takes a shot at my dad
and they say, the FBI is investigating the same FBI
that is trying to put my dad in prison for
the rest of his life. Don't you have to be
sitting there saying, how in the world can we trust
any of the government apparatus that is surrounding him right
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now even to try to figure out this assassination story,
how it happened. It's so corrupt. I mean, that was
what I would think as a son. That has to
be going through your mind all the time.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
As they started this whole sharrade by spying on his campaign. Yes,
and he said it, and then on sixteen minutes say no, no, no,
how do you have any proof because they're spying on
my campaign. I'm telling you the spying on my pay
Sure enough, they were obviously spying on his campaign. No,
I don't have any trust and neither does the country.
And by the way, I've got a couple buddies who
are FBI agents. The greatest people you'll ever meet in
your entire life, right, I mean, this isn't This isn't
the gun carriers. These are the people who are going
after organized crime. Right. These are the people on the
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top floor of those very fancy buildings that they said.
And it's so different than the Secret Service, the people
that are actually carrying the guns and doing the job
in the Secret Service, best people you'll ever meet. You
go to the eighth floor in Washington, DC. And I
would say the exact opposite. I'm not actually sure if
they have his best interest in mind. That hurts my
soul to say I will protect the field agents, you know,
I mean, many of these guys are some of my
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closest friends. They would do anything for me.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I did one to ask. Since we're talking personnel, obviously,
the JD. Van's announcement is a big deal. Some of
us saw it coming, but months ago Clay owes me
a stake and we're gonna go out you know that
place in Miami where they have like the gold case
and smoke and whatever, all.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Of it, the theatrics.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
That's where Clay is gonna take me where you have
to put a little steak bib on me, the whole thing.
So even great, but JD Vance were very pleased about this.
I thought it was a great pick. Clay things, it's
a good pick, and he's happy that it's gone down
that way. There's some reporting out there that it came
down to the wire though, and now that the reveal
has happened and it's clear and it's Don and JD's
the guy, they're saying that you and your brother Don Junior,
who we both know well, that you guys basically were
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like team JD and a critical push at the end
to make this happen. Can you can you confirm or
I that that's how this went down?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, listen, I'm I'm a guy who wants DGT to
go with his gut. You know, there's there's people I
really liked, and all the people were mentally competent. They're
they're great, they're great. People's hard you know, Ruby had
a little bit of Florida problem, and it's kind of
hard to have, you know, two people from the same state, obviously,
but you know, amazingly qualified as is as is the
governor obviously. But Jdi's great. The chemistry that those guys
have is amazing. You know, he's been his own success
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in business, as you guys know better in anybody. He's
kind of quickly Rose a political ladder, you know, very
similar to my father, right yeah, massively successful in business, clothes,
you know, Rose the political ladder. He's got a lot
of fire. He's gonna be incredible in the Ross Belt.
He's incredibly well respected, awesome story. He's willing to go
into enemy territory. And most Republicans aren't. All right, I
mean I just ad all all the CNN's and everything
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else any Sunday show. He can do anything. Hey, you
know what, most people aren't. I am Donnis. He is.
But most people are going to try and camp out
on the friendlies and you know, you're kind of trying
to get their message out. We don't need that right now.
We need somebody to really.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Last question for you here as we filed out one
minute one minute here you have a six year old,
four year old your dad as a grandfather is what
kind of grandfather compared to what kind of dad he was?
Speaker 5 (24:06):
He's amazing. He showed up my daughters. It was grandfather like,
you know, granddaughter day as school, and so no one
knew he was coming, obviously, you know, the heads of
school day because of secret Service. And he shows up
there and my daughter just burst into tears, ran up
to himive him videos huit so awesome, and the video
literally went viral. It's, you know, him holding this delicate
little hand as a former president walking into kind of
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this grandfather's day, and it was just amazing. He's an
amazing grandfather. He's an amazing guy. I couldn't ask for
a better father. And guys, frankly, I wouldn't take all
the arrows that I did if he wasn't the greatest
guy in the world. I will fight to the end
of time for the man. He's done such a great
job with our family. None of us have ever broken,
none of us have brought I mean, do you see
the difference between the Bidens and us? We do.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
You're listening to twenty four, the most important tier in politics,
with Clay Travis sand Box Sexton, who three point.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Zero against Biden. I didn't think that they'd be able
to try to get it to this place, but this
is where they are. Clay, You've got the updates for me.
They've now they have officially thrown everything short of the
twenty fifth.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Amendment at Biden.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I think we could say that I think they've pulled
out all the stops to get.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Him to go.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Breaking News Washington Post. I'm going to read the opening paragraph.
The headline is Obama tells allies Biden needs to seriously
consider his viability.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Opening paragraph.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Former President Barack Obama has told the allies in recent days,
president Biden's path the victory has greatly diminished, and he
thinks the president needs to seriously consider the viability of
his candidacy, according to multiple people briefed on the thinking
third paragraph, behind the scenes Obama he's only talked to
Biden personally once since the debate.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
That's not surprising.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Obama spent eight years with this guy ass VP, and
he's taken shots via the media him from behind closed doors.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Very Obama.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Behind the scenes, Obama has been deeply engaged in conversations
about the future of Biden's campaign, taking calls from many
anxious Democrats, including Pelosi, and he shared his views about
the president's challenges again this story breaking right now. He
has only spoken once ever to Joe Biden, according to
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this story, since the actual debate took place. And this
is the kneecapping. It's very organized, everybody Pelosi, Schumer, Hakeem, Jeffries,
everybody lining up and coming after him.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And that is where we are right now.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I'm just going to say this because I understand right
now you o'clay follows the betting markets, for example, and
right now it is eighty twenty that he will step down.
If I were Joe Biden, I'm just saying, if I
were Joe Biden right now, I.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Would say no way.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
But I am buck Sexton, and so I am saying,
welcome to Donald Trump Junior, who is with us now
on set. So good to see you, sir, Thanks for
making the time. We want to talk about your dad's
enormously important speech tonight, the unity of the party, the
sense of destiny. There's a lot of amazing stuff. Yeah,
but I do have to have you wagh In first
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on what the heck is going on with the Democrats
right now, in the midst of trying to oust their
president a few weeks before the d n C.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
How do you think this plays out?
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Don Well, you know, again, I don't know that even matters, right,
because it all comes down to the policies for me,
and whether it's Joe Biden, you know, signing off one
whoever's actually in charge, or Kamala Harris, it's the policies
that have failed a marriage.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So we're fighting against the system, right, I.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Think we're fighting the system. I think that couldn't be
more evident, right, I mean, the borders closed, sure it is.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
It doesn't matter, Donalds, the borders are the thing.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Well, and you know, honestly, there's a component of it
that I'm thinking. And again maybe I'm sort of in
my own little vacuum with some of this stuff. But
like you know, Joe Biden is sort of the bumbling
and like everyone hated Hillary, right, it was easy to
get people to hate Hillary Joe Biden. Make no mistake,
He's not a good guy. He's taking advantage of every office.
He's built the system for so long. But like he
comes off as a sort of bumbling old guy it's
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sort of hard to hate him. I think it's pretty
easy to hate Kamala Harris. You hear a couple of
the words salads, and you're like, oh my god, this person.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Is so fake. I mean, comes across a phony opposite
of phony.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
How I know your dad's going to be president of
the United States again, and that's super awesome. How proud
are you of your daughter and what she did last night?
Because I thought, I think she's seventeen. I thought she
just absolutely was incredible. As a dad, I got three kids,
I imagine that that is just an amazing experience to
see her perform like that on that stage.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
It was incredible. And she's just such a game time player.
She's a great athlete, and she literally you know, And again,
it wasn't one of these like marketing gimmick, like we
got to put out a young girl who like she
literally called me on Monday because she was the one
that was with me when I found out my dad
had been shot, and like we were together for that
hour and a half to like, yeah, I was We're
out fishing on a boat, like a rough time. She
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calls me Monday morning and she's like, I feel really
strongly about this. I want to speak and it's like,
you know, the RNC has been scheduled for like two weeks.
I was like, you can just like I'll just bump
some senator or something. Again, Like I was like, I
don't even know what's doable. I called my dad. I
was like, hey, I just give her someone my time.
He goes one hundred percent and uh, you know, so
she'd never she's not political, she's but she's just she
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was there for that moment. She saw him come out,
and you know, she was like, I have to just
say something. I just I feel obligated at this point.
And it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I want to ask you just hinted at it. Daughter
killed it on the stage last night. She was amazing
that experience on Saturday. I think you were out fishing.
You don't know what happened. How did you become aware
of what had occurred and take us into your worldview?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Yeah, you know, Kim gave me a call like your
dad's been shot, Like well okay, like and like that's it. Yeah,
but we don't know. I'm like, wow, that I got nothing.
So I literal you get the boat in Blind's in it.
We were just you know, it was weird because like
my daughter seventeen year old, are like, you get that
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call like once a year like hey, I want to
go do this.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
I was like, one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
You just got to take every opportunity that you can,
if and when that ever presents itself.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
And so you know, we're rushing in. We get in.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
We you know, I get all my kind of other
kids kind of sorted out, and I actually why I
live in Jupiter floor, Like the police there sorted like,
we're around my house with that unrequested by me. There
no one knew what was happening, if it was a
bigger threat to our family or whatever it was. So
get there, sweated ninety minutes, ninety minutes before I could
even make contact to know that anything. But by then
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I'd seen the sort of videos and I was just
like I saw him come back up to find I
was like, WELLOK, he's doing that. He's not It's not
like a Kennedy situation or so like yeah, so it's
a question how bad. And finally I get through to
him and we're all on speaker phone. My ex wife
is there, Kim's there, my daughter's like kids, my brothers
on the other line were on the speakerphone, and I
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was just like, hey, man, you are the biggest badass
I've ever Again, these days, everyone tunks shit online everyone,
you know, everyone's a badass on the internet, you know
what I mean, We've seen that. And I was like,
until you're actually test I spoke about that it in
my speech, like you never know, like everyone wants to
think they come back up defiant, but most of the time.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Most people I know a lot of people who have
been shot at, and very few of them would say, yeah,
if I actually got hit, I'd just be.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Defiant throws in the air, not a whole other level.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
So you know, But honestly, it's it's so indicative of
you know, our country that that's that's why our enemies
didn't invade their neighbors and drag us into wars. That's
why you're able to get those things done because like you,
you exude.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
That your dad exactly why the fighting spirit of America,
centuries of the fighting spirit of America, of the patriotism
of this country all in one moment and captured on
on photo in a way that I think is going
to be timeless.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Yeah, that's that makes the mugshot look like a kid
drew it with a crayon.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
H I would have given you one hundred to one
odds that there's no way he could he.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Hear it do the mug shot.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
But in terms of your dad's mentality, now there has
been a sense observed in the media that you know,
he's been through all this fight. He seems to have
not only beaten the law Fair campaign up to this point,
but really turned it against the people that are abusing
the judiciary for politics.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Weaponizing it right.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
But after what happened on Saturday, people seem to be
observing a seriousness and a sense of true destiny with
your dad.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I wanted you to speak to that.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Okah, so you see that you look at the the probability.
I'm I came from a competitive long range shooting background,
Like I was, like, that's like a six inch put
that shot. You see the head turn and lean the
only one in ten minutes. You see, by the way,
the gross in coombetence that led to that. Marshall Blackburn
came on My Showl on my Triggered podcast last night
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on Rumbull and she was just walking by and she's
like before I even went on air. She's like, hey,
we just got off the call with Secret Service. You
know that, Like they knew there was a shooter there
at like at five point fifty one. I got five
foftwy one. He didn't get on till six. She goes, oh, yeah,
I know. They identified the guy on the roof at
five point fifty three with a rifle.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I've got that timeline right here. I can't believe h.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
At and they let him get on this Like I
was like, Okay, someone climbed up a roof.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Really what?
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Maybe again?
Speaker 6 (33:22):
You know, my father, the rallies are so much of
law enforcement, they're somaga. Maybe they were watching instead of
paying attention, so if it was started, you know, maybe
they'd eyes off the prize for a second. No, no, no,
they knew, and he hadn't even been on stage yet.
They let him get on stage, and then eleven minutes
in is when the shans got so for twenty minutes
they knew, they still let him get on that stage.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Like that's that's asinine.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
For people who haven't heard that timeline, let me hit
you with it.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Five ten.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
They identified the shooter as a perfect person of interest
five ten five point thirty they saw that he had
a range finder. This is Secret Service timeline. If I
point fifty two, they saw him on the roof six
oh two. Ten minutes after this guy was on the roof,
they let your dad take the stage ten more minutes.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
The first shots are fire. It's insane.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
So you know, for that, hey, I don't need to
be I don't want to be the guy to get conspiratorial.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I'm sure everyone else is doing it because there's almost
no other plausible solution. It's like wuhan lableek theory, like,
of course it came from the lab that studies the
virus in the place that was grand like of course,
but you know you weren't allowed to say that at
the time. But like, there's no way. And so when
you bring it sort of to the you know, divine
intervention component, and I'm not an overly spiritual kind of guy,
but I was like, I don't know, man, like, it
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seems like almost impossible for that to not have a
been We agree.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I mean it's almost I met you know, you your
dad Ivanka Eric thirty years ago. I met him when
he was a dad, when he was just your dad, right,
another one of the dads in New York, and so,
my my. The feeling was going through my ad a
time is oh my god, this is Eric and Ivanka
and Don Junior's father. Oh my god, the country, Oh
my god, what's going to happen. I haven't had an
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emotional reaction like that since I saw Honest to God
when I was in college, which led me to the CIA,
the planes going into the towers in real time. I
saw the second one actually hit that. It was that feeling.
But what's I think just incredible about this week is
that that feeling was then replaced with your dad's.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Okay, your dad's fist on the stage.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Your dad has unified the Republican Party like we have
honestly never seen before in my lifetime. I would say
the country was incredibly unified after nine to eleven. The
Republican Party is more unified right now behind your dad
than we've ever seen it before.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
The sense of destiny that he has.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
How is he feeling about that?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And how is he more focused than ever?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Again, I just don't think he's taking anything for granted.
I mean, I think the sense of destiny is probably
not something he's even feeling or has not articulated to
me person. But uh, I think anyone watching, anyone who
sees the numbers, anyone who sees the thing, It's like
there's almost no other conclusion. I think without question. I
think without question.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You guys, let's finish with something funny because I saw
this quote, and I want you to tell our audience.
You your family has a great sense of humor that
much of the media does not get it right.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Your dad has a great say. They try to they
try to warp it, like I can't understand. But I
saw this quote. I want you to tell our audience
because I haven't heard you tell it. I just read it.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Once you knew your dad was okay, you got on
the phone and you asked him about his hair.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, well tell us, I mean, once you knew he
was okay, Like.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
I started off with a hey, man, I think you're
the biggest badass ever. Yeah, and then it was just
sort of just a little family talking, Hey glad you're okay.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
But it was so heavy. Yes, and I'm always the inappropriate.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
Yeah, I got I probably have his his sort of
inclination just be like okay, So I just go so listen,
most importantly how the hair, and he just goes therese
are pauses, like I was like, is this getting more?
Speaker 5 (37:06):
This is a pause? He goes done. The hair is fine,
a little bit lot of blood, a lot of blood,
but the hair is fine. It's gonna be okay.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
And that was like for us honestly as a family,
because like I said, we're all on sort of speakerphone
after an hour and a half of just like is
here even alive, and it was.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Just like knew it was there. He's good.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
It was a moment of like, okay, like everything is
gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Well, look, it's so exciting tonight with your dad's speech
coming up and we're gonna be watching it here and
U don just thanks to you, your dad, the whole family,
like you guys didn't have to do this, And I
think people now understand that more than ever before.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
This is about serving the country.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
We've been They've tried to find us. They've tried to
jail us, including me, for treason and Cram punishable by death.
They tried peaching him twice. They tried taking away our businesses.
They find us half a billion dollars in New York
for paying back loans on time with interest.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I mean, you know now they're shooting at us.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
So yeah, it was a lot easier being a real
estate developer from New York.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
You knew us in those days, so a little different.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
You didn't have you tell everybody your dad could just
be playing golf forever and he would have had a
great legacy in the first four years.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
So anyway, God bless you man the whole thing. Thank you.
I appreciate you being here and really appreciate it. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, Mister Speaker honored that
you'd make the time to tat with us here at
the RNC. I want to dive right into it. We
all know that there's a lot of pressure on Biden
right now, and we'll get into some more of that
to step down from his own party, from his own side,
no matter what it seems. Right now the place where
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Democrats are gonna perhaps we could call it their Imagine
No line, and hopefully it will be about just as effective.
They think that they'll be able to stop the unified
government by getting a House majority, and they're gonna throw.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Everything they have into it.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Are you seeing that shift of focus and funds already
and how are you going to blunt it?
Speaker 7 (39:07):
We are beginning to see it already. Great to be
with you guys. By the way, thank you for being
with what an epic week. We're going a great time here.
That is not going to dampen our spirits or change
our strategy at all. We've been working NonStop, guys. I've
done events in one hundred and forty four cities now
in thirty one states in the last seven months. We're
going everywhere where we have our incumbents, even in the
tight reelex and where we have the people that we've
recruited to challenge these seats and flip them from blue
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to red. All the Poulin is saying we're in good
shape to do that. We don't take anything for granted.
We never will. We run like we're ten points behind.
We set fundraising records for the second quarter because everyone's motivated.
But this does change the game a little bit because
now the big Hollywood mogul types and the big money
is turning from the presidential resigning themselves to the fact
that Trump gets re elected and now they're going to
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try to build a foleow world in the House. As
you said, so the challenge is greater, but the game
plans exactly the saying.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
We know there's been a lot of gerrymandering in the
House over the years, both directions, different states. How many
when you look at the overall map, how many addressable
or winnable seats do you see on the board that
you even compete in either side?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
How many are out there?
Speaker 7 (40:10):
So the number has dwindled because of gerrymandering, redistricting. You know,
we're gone. Are the days where we'd have a forty
or forty five seat majority? Is it not possible anymore?
The Cook Report is one pretty good arbiter of this.
We all rate the districts, and R plus twelve is
my district. That means it's a Cook rating.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Right.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
They looked at the race this fall and they said
there are two hundred and ten safe Republican seats, two
hundred and third three safe Democrat seats, twenty two seats
in the middle. They assessed at eleven lean right and
eleven len.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
How wild is that that only twenty two seats out
there are really in play at this point in time.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
It's a remarkable thing about how politics have developed and
how the districts have been redrawn and the legislators have
gotten so involved.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
But that's the reality on the ground.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
So we're fighting tooth and nail for every engine on
the field, literally, and we believe that we can achieve
a ten or twelve or fifteen seat majority, but it
takes a lot of effort, a lot of work to
do it. We're playing in close to forty races. We
have incumbents who are in tight reelects, but they should
be fine, and then we have these other seats that
we think we can flip, and I think this is
the year for us to do.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
It, mister speaker.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
You know, one of the big areas of concern for
our audience and for everybody I think who is paying
enough attention to it is the national debt. Right we're
at about thirty four trillion and change. Maybe it's already
hit thirty five trillion.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I got to keep it. It's very close.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
It's very close thirty five trillion. That's a lot of money.
We all know that government is spending, not just a
lot of money, but too much money. I know that
we're always limited to the possible in politics, but if
you have a House majority, certainly spend. With a Senate
and Trump presidency, spending is a place where you can
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really get things done. Where are the priorities for either
additional spending and also where would you look or how
would you look to begin to rein in what is
clear and out of control debt. I don't think anybody
can disagree with that.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
It's not a sustainable trajectory. And that means the greatest
national security threat is not China, Rush AIRN, or North Korea,
it's the debt. I mean, that's what the Pentagon will
tell you that we all know intuitively we have to
fix this. The way to do it is to use
that word you just said, priorities. Right, we have to
prioritize national defense right now because we're in the most
dangerous air since World War Two domestically and of course
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internationally because the weakness that Biden has put on the
world stage.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
So you have to do that.
Speaker 7 (42:29):
First, you got to secure the border, you got to
take care of your country. But then also you look
at a combination of spending cuts, tax cuts. At the
same time, you have to juice the economy. The way
you do that is to reduce the regulatory burden and
you reduce the tax burden on the people who are
the job creators, the innovators, and the risk takers those
in the economy to get the economy going.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
We did this already.
Speaker 7 (42:50):
Remember after the first two years the Trump administration, we
have the greatest economy in the history of the world,
not just the US because we implemented those policies.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Will get right back to it.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
So you have to have a pro growth agenda and
you have to cut spending at the same time. It's
not only possible, it's necessary. Now we have to do it.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
By the grace of God, President Trump is okay, and
we're going to be able to watch him speak tonight Saturday.
I think everyone out there's heart stopped watching what occurred.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Where were you.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
I'm curious on your experience that day because you're just
a few steps away from being president right now with
what's going on with Biden and Kamala in the succession.
But also, how in the world does the Secret Service
head still have her job?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Can you believe?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
As more of these details have come out that she
is still employed.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
Let me address the second part first. It's absolutely outrageous.
I called for the resignation of the Secret Service Director
Cheetle yesterday and today I called the White House and
I told President Biden through his people, they won't let
me talk to him today.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I can't can't imagine why that he should fire her.
He needs to the bucks stops ultimately on he's the response.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
By the way, when you call the White House and
you say she's clearly not going to do the right
thing and resign, Biden won't fire anybody. But you call
the White House and you say she has to be fired.
You're not talking to Biden himself. What do they say?
Speaker 7 (44:03):
I say, you need to communicate this to the president
on behalf of the Speaker of the House. I call
you into good faith, I always do. I think this
would be good for him politically.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Whift on that, and he Whift on a real message
of unity and Americanism. Right after the shooting, I don't
know if this was an assassination. It's outrageous.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
You probably would have the same perspective if a bullet
had buzzed Biden's hit.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's a failure of the Secret Service.
Speaker 7 (44:27):
No matter who the person, non partisan issue there must be.
And to that point, I've set up a task force.
It will be bipartisan. We're going to strike with precision
and get this done and get the facts of the
American people. We have to because conspiracy theories are flurishing
right now.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Now, I know you perhaps don't want to tip your
hand to the other side here, but I am curious to.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
The degree you are comfortable willing to speak to it.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
What's better for the Democrats in these tight house races,
Biden stays.
Speaker 7 (44:58):
Biden goes, I think at this point they're looking at
the same odds you are at Vegas. I think they're
ready for him to go because it has a terrible
down ballid effect. There won't be as a big of
a turnout on their side. They're terrified about that, and
I think that they're just they don't know what to do.
I mean, guys, it was such an interesting phenomenon on
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Capitol Hill last week. I had two whole days unimpeded
where I could walk through the hallways without being accosted
by media sticking microphones and cameras in my face, where
are they Oh, they're chasing the Democrats for a chance.
They had to introduce themselves to our Democrat colleagues. They
never asked them tough questions. I called Hakkem Jeffreys, my friend,
a Democrat leader. I said, how's it feel?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Bro? You know, so I got a little reprieve.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
We kind of like this, but look, it's a serious problem,
and that's why they're in such panic. They do not
know they don't have a viable plan B. They run
Kamala and whomever she puts on that ticket. We like
those odds too.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
So I asked the question, I'm glad that you have
called the White House and said the Secret Service director
has to be gone. Where were you Saturday? And what
your reaction to what you have seen come out?
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Since I had a rare sanity, I was actually home
in Louisiana. We were preparing for this because I was
cheering the convention. I'm going through the notes. We have
that on in the background, and I've been to some
of these rallies as y'all have.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
You know, I know the speech.
Speaker 7 (46:12):
But one of my kids gasps, is said dad, and
we looked up and it happened, and we stood there
frozen in the living room for twenty minutes. As soon
as we realized that he was okay, I immediately thought
of the story of George Washington, the bulletproof President, we.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Used to call it.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Carson came on and told me to talk about it
was I was talking with him about that.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
It's remarkable and the thing is, and I told DoD
Carson this. You know, if you go back and look
at the story, it happened less than fifty miles from
where Donald Trump was. His assassination was attempted also in July,
also in Pennsylvania. I mean, you could say that's coincidence.
I say it's providence. And I think I think President
Trump is thinking about it the same way. His head
and his heart are in exactly where we would want
(46:51):
them to be right now. And I think the speech
tonight's going to be epic.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Well, we're looking forward to it as well, mister speaker.
Appreciate you making the time for us here.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
It is.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
It's a blessed week. You know, it's been great for
an R and C. But it actually actually has just
been great for the country too. That we all dodged
a bullet in a sense, we did as a nation.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's not an overstatement. And you hear two major themes here.
Speaker 7 (47:13):
Unity is the main theme, and we feel that and
it's electric and you can feel it. You feel it
out in the country right now, in our party and beyond,
but also providence, both of those things. And it's a
really important time to be an American and a great
time to be a Republican.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Misspeaker, Please come back again soon. We're gonna have a
lot of talking about here with the upcoming house battle,
because we think that that's where.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
The money's going, right, the real right. Keep praying, we'll
keep working. Got to stay on that one.