July 23, 2024 • 36 mins
Kamala's cringe remarks at campaign HQ in Delaware. Who wants to be Kamala's VP? Kamala sets up "prosecutor vs. felon" narrative to obscure her far-left wing, BLM support. Clay and Trump disagree on how Trump should treat Kamala's past as Willie Brown's mistress. The viral Kamala "what can be, unburdened by what has been" montage. New poll shows tight race in popular vote. Can Kamala beat Trump?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Hour two of Clay and Buck kicks off now,
and let's take a look at this new presidential election
that we are faced with. Here. You could say, Clay,
that we should take a look at what can be
unburdened by what has been. I guess the burden was
Joe Biden, and the campaign is no longer burdened with Biden.
(00:21):
That is Kamala's favorite phrase. In case he did not know.
I'm sure we can find a super cut somewhere of
her saying that all the time, a phrase that she
uses constantly that I had never heard before ever. Actually,
I've never heard someone talking about what can be unburdened
by what has been, But Kamalo loves it. So we
will get into some of that also, how to handle
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from the Republican side of things, from the Trump side
of things, how to handle her past and all the
rest of it. She is making her first public appearances.
Let's get to cut eight here. Team Here she is
the VP saying, it's a rollercoaster, mixed but we love
Joe Biden play it and I.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Know it's been a rollercoaster and we're all filled with
so many mixed emotions about this. I just say I
love Joe Biden. I love Joe Biden, and I know
we all do, and we have so many darn good
reasons for loving Joe Biden, and I have full faith
that this team is the team will be the reason
we win in November.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
She is cringe inducing even when she's saying things that
should be very straightforward. Clay, I think that the same
Democrat capacity to fool themselves into the belief that Joe
Biden does not have sinility. I think that same capacity
for delusion is what is present when they're making it
(01:47):
sound like they believe. Kamala Harris and we'll play some
of those clips later is a great politician. No one
really could possibly think.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
That it is so weird in the political sphere to
have this happen. She travels to Wilmington, Delaware, a state
probably that she spent almost no time in prior to
becoming vice president. Because Joe Biden's from Delaware, she is
now stepping in. They have completely swept out all mention
(02:14):
of Biden. She is keeping the same campaign team, same
campaign headquarters, everything, except now she is the head of
the ticket. Joe Biden is kicked to the curb doesn't
basically exist as a part of this ticket anymore, and
we have to figure out who she's going to pick
as vice president. This happens all the time in sports.
That's the only analogy I can think of. It doesn't
(02:35):
happen very often in politics, where the head coach gets
fired and immediately the new head coach steps in, oftentimes
on his staff with everybody else the same players, management structure,
and suddenly says, hey, I'm the new guy, and everybody
(02:55):
just starts clapping for that person instead. I mean, this
is strange. Now she's got to pick who her VP
is going to be. Two favorites right now, according to reporting,
appear to be Mark Kelly, the astronaut senator from Arizona,
and who I believe beat Blake Masters by two or
three points. Am I correct in that in twenty twenty
(03:16):
two to win reelection?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And the.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Who I think she's gonna pick the governor of Pennsylvania,
Josh Shapiro. So she's gonna pick it appears one of
those two are favored. I think you're leaving out your buddy.
I think getting uh Basher.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I think Basher is because here's how, here's how, let's
let's do this now. Shall we break down the VP
stakes once again? The vieepstakes we got at least we
know that Jade Vince is the Republican vice presidential nominee.
Here's what I see, Clay, if you have a future
as a Democrat running for the top job, you do
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not want to be in the number too slot on
this Kamala ticket right now, because you're just going down
with a big l. You're taking the loss here. Not
a good move. So that's why Gretchen Whittmer has already
made it clear. She's like, I endors Kamla. I'm not
gonna take the VP job full stop. That's the smart move.
By the way, I think that Whitmer pains me to
(04:19):
say this. I think she could be formidable. Member. We're
not getting Trump again, everybody, this is our last well,
I mean, assuming he wins and he doesn't run again,
but or you know, if he didn't win and he
ran again. But this is our last shot of Trump.
Let's say we get Trump in, we got to come
up with somebody else. I think jad Vance, you know,
is top of the list right now, but there'll be others.
I think Gretchen Whitmer will be formidable on her own
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in twenty twenty eight in that election cycle which starts
in twenty twenty six. Same thing applies for Gavin Newsom,
at least in his own mind. Clay. I think he
believes he's formidable for the top job and wants to run.
And they are a whole bunch of other names. I
won't go through all of them, but you're not hearing
about them as Kamala VP slot. Why because the people
that are going to take the Kamala VP slot for
them it's a shot at being a VP. They're never
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going to be president, and they probably would never be
a VP on another Democrat ticket, So this is the
best they could ever really realistically hope for. And that's
where I think you get Asher in Kentucky because they're
balancing out. Kama's a far left wing candidate everybody. She's
a progressive from California except on one issue, and we
should talk about that. On the criminal justice thing, we
should get to that. I see.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I think Gretchen Whitmer knows she's not going to be
picked because they're not going to go with an all
female ticket, So I think she's pulling herself out of
the running in advance because I don't think all females.
I've never like, why not an all female ticket just
based on their gender. I don't see that as I
think that they have decided that Kamala Harris needs to
(05:46):
have I'm just telling you, I think they've decided she
needs to have a guy, and I think they want
like the blandest, whitest guy possible to try to make
that ticket more palatable for these Midwestern voters.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now question though, I think jos Shapiro, who is Jewish,
this is Jewish, is a problem for Kamala on the
left side in Michigan and offer all the reasons that
we've tinked.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I am fascinated by that. CNN came on and said
that she would be in trouble potentially in Michigan if
she picked a Jewish running mate.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
She might be seeding Michigan to try to win Pennsylvania.
That may be the county.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
And that is, by the way, a sign of how
anti Semitic some of the base of the Democrat Party is,
because you wouldn't say, if Josh Shapiro was a Republican,
I would have been beating the table Trump should pick
him as the VP. If you had a popular Republican
governor in Pennsylvania, Jewish, whatever he is, it would have
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been a no brainer for Trump to pick him because
that would make it more likely that Trump would win Pennsylvania.
And if Trump wins Pennsylvania, there is no pathway for
Democrats to win this election. So the fact that they
said this on cn N, they pointed out, hey, a
Jewish running mate could be an issue.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
There are already people.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Saying Kamala's Jewish husband could potentially be an issue for her.
That's how anti semitic the left is. If that's true, Buck,
then I think Mark Kelly would be the pick. The
question is is he strong enough in Arizona to flip
that state back from right now Trump being in the
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lead to maintain it and the Democrat camp.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So my sense is that I think the likeliest pick
is Mark Kelly, but I think that Bashir is right
behind him because he does that whole russ Belt appeal
to the middle of America thing that Kamala is going
to need to be competitive in any even vaguely competitive
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in any of those key swing states so throughout the Midwest. Yes,
So I think those are those are the likely options
you have. I also think that once again, the VP
tends to be an exaggerated part of a of a ticket.
In terms of the election, I think that this is
going to be a Kamala Trump election or Trump Kamala election,
and that's the likeliest way that this You know that
(08:18):
that's the only way that this thing is going to
be determined. I thought this was interesting too, though, because
I disagree and I'm hearing that the GOP is going
to is going to attack her on this, and I
disagree with it. Here's Kamala Harris talking about when she
was a prosecutor in San Francisco. This has cut nine
play it.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You know, as many of you know, before I was
elected as Vice president, before I was elected as United
States Senator, I was the elected attorney general I've mentioned
a California and before that, I was a courtroom prosecutor.
In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Kinds, creditors who abused women, frodsters who ripped off consumers,
cheeters who broke the rules.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
For their own game. So hear me when I say
I know Donald Trump's type.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
All right? Now, put aside the like that thing. I
think it is a mistake if the GOP starts going
after Kamala for being tough on crime, put aside the
Trump component of this. And they did this a little
bit during the primary in twenty twenty. There was that
people would say they call her cop Kamala because she was, like,
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you know, a cop going around arresting everybody for for
weed and things like that. That is a mistake. She
is a far leftist progressive from California. She raised money
for BLM rioters in her own name. Do not GOP
staffers Capitol Hill listen to me, are in see people
(10:00):
listen to me. Do not make Kamala seem like she
used to be a badass on crime, very very dumb.
Point out that she is a progressive leftist who is
fine with Soros das all over the country and was
all about rioting during BLM. Do you see what I mean?
I think this is because they've done that, they've gone
the wrong direction in this in the past against Kamala.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
It also forces you to be hitting her on two
different sides. The way to attack her, I agree with you,
is to say she moved from a prosecutor who believed
criminals should be put in prison to someone who believes
there should be no consequences for committing crimes. She is
too soft on crime. She used to be right. I mean,
(10:43):
the way I would address it buck is the same
way Joe Biden was right in nineteen ninety four on
the crime bill he was He was one hundred percent right.
It might be the only thing he got right in
his entire political career. He turned his back on the
tough on crime bills in order to be elected in
twenty twenty. Kamala is actually far worse than Biden because
(11:03):
Biden was an adroit enough politician never too specifically called
to defund the police. Kamala is on tape saying we
need to defund the police.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
The way to attack her is there.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Biden was actually a better candidate, I think, on this
issue because he was never crazy enough to give all
of his support to the far left wing idea of
defunding the police. Kamala was. She's not as skilled a
politician as Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And actually, as one of the reasons that Joe Biden
became the nominee and then the president in twenty twenty
is that he did not totally go off the cliff
with the BLM. You rioting, defund the police, abolish prisons,
Democrat lunacy of that year. He let the shock troops.
He's not opposed to it, don't get me wrong. He
(11:52):
let the shock troops of the Democrat Party do what
they do and mobilize and terrorize. But he knew for
his own purposes is don't go along with that. Let
Antifa be Antifa. But I pretend to be lunch pale
Joe who rides the chow chew with the union members
and everything else, right, I mean, that's that was the
whole game. Kamala went along with it because Kamala has
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to play the race politics angle for her own reasons.
So Kamala was all BLM and Kamala was supporting the
riots and saying, you know, get them money to get
them out of jail at all this stuff. Hate her
on that because I have already seen early indications they're
gonna say, oh, well, Kamala used to lock people up
for weed. Kamala locking people up is a good thing, okay, y,
(12:35):
we want more of the locking people up for breaking
the law. I mean, not obviously for just having some weed,
but that's not what really was going on. We come back.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I'll answer your question about how aggressive Trump should be
on going after Kamala for this sixty year old married
man relationship, because I think I've got the answer.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
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pointing counterpoint on this one because I don't think we
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Speaker 3 (14:27):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we're rolling through
the Tuesday edition of the program. All right, Buck, we
asked and we've been talking and a lot of you
have opinions. How should Trump treat Kamala Harris's history as
a twenty nine year old dating a sixty year old
married man dating is in quotation marks uh.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Ninety years ago. To be clear, it's just over this
three years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think he should bring it up if she attacks him,
because Biden attacked him over the Stormy Daniels situation. I
think he should respond only if she brings it up
in their debate. I do think they will debate, and
if she brings that up, I think he should say one,
that story's not true. But what is true is when
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you were a twenty nine year old you slept with
sixty year old San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown in an
effort to advance your career. You've been a conniving politician
your entire life, and you've slept with anyone that would
make your career more successful, even if they're married and
thirty years older than you. I think that is a
(15:39):
CounterPunch that would land in a big way. I would
deliver it if I were Trump. You're like, what would
you do if she brings up the Stormy Daniels story
in the debate, which Biden did?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Biden went there.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
If she does, I think that's a devastating CounterPunch from Trump. Look,
Trump is Trump, and he's going to do exactly what
he's gonna do, and that's anyone who knows him and
to spending time around him, what would agree with that?
So trying to advise.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
As though this may get to his ear and make
a difference, I think is you know, as a fool's
errand but uh, Clay, I think there, I think we
see a I don't know, man, I think Trump has
gone from Gandalf the Great to Gandolf the White Like.
I just think that what what he has done, beating
the law, their taking a bullet for democracy, as he
(16:28):
himself has said, he's just above all that. I don't
know he's if he's in a debate with her, I'm
not saying he's going to. But look, I think what
we saw when he debated Joe Biden was he just
let everybody see the truth of Biden. I thought Trump
was very presidential. I thought Trump was very disciplined in
that debate. You know, he made one or two quips
(16:48):
about like, you guy doesn't even know what he's saying,
which was totally fair because he didn't know what he
was saying, and even Democrats admitted that, right. Yes, So
I think with Kamala, yes, are there people out there
like you and me who should make sure that the
public knows the truth about how Kamma built their political career? Absolutely,
I'm by no means am I saying it's off limits?
Is it good politics for Trump to go after her
(17:09):
on that, given who he is and the you know,
the women's situation with him, I don't know. I don't
think I think it really matters. I feel like he
just sullies him stuff. I've I think that the Trump
we have now is above having to uh to get
to down in the mud. But some people would say
Trump is the ultimate mud fighter, so don't well, don't stop.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
The reason why I like it, buck is the only
time that probably thirty or forty million people on the
left are even going to know that story happened is
if they're seeing it on the debate because CNN and
MSNBC are never going to cover it. So he forces
them to confront the reality that that happened. And some
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of those women are so long that that you know,
that's it. I mean, she wasn't eighteen, she was twenty nine,
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On the front Lines of Truth, we mentioned Kamala harris
favorite phrase before you might be wondering, is it unfair
to just point this out? Is she really using it
that much? Or we exaggerating? Well, I don't know. You
(19:12):
tell me how many times have you heard that phrase?
And then how many times will we hear it right now?
In public pronouncements from Kamala Harris Blake.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
What can be?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
What should be unburdened by what has been? What can
be unburdened by what has been? What can be unburdened
by what has been? See what can be unburdened by
what has been? What can be unburdened by what has been?
What can be unburdened by what has been, unburdened by
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what has been? And knowing what can be, have a
sense of vision about what can be unburdened by what
has been.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
There are those who are unable to see what can be,
but they there are many more who are able to
see what can be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I mean, she could also just say the past doesn't
determine the future. I mean, there's a lot of ways
that if she felt like, but that is clearly her favorite,
her favorite phrase. That is her marquee phrase. That everyone
it's not a good phrase.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It's not hard to even understand it, right, Like, we're
not Yeah, your point, the past doesn't dictate the future
is something that everybody understands, like this is just a
gobblygook phrase that actually is hard to even work through.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, I sit here, and I honestly, it's the kind
of phrase that a person who has been padded on
the back and told oh, you're so smart and great
well everyone you know, her whole professional life while everyone
was like what the heck was that? It's kind of
phrase somebody like that would keep using because no one
will tell me, like, what are you doing? What is that? Even?
(20:58):
And I think that that speaks very much to the
reality of Kamala Harris. So this is Look, I'm sure
you saw David Sacks who was on with us during
the RNC. He's a one of the you know, big
big dogs out of Silicon Valley, one of the big
boys out of Silicon Valley. They do with their own
podcast over there all In he said that he tweeted
(21:20):
this out. According to Axios, Biden didn't want to drop
out in part because Harris wasn't up the taking on Trump.
Democrats ignored this concern because they were so eager to
dump Biden. But I suspect Biden will be proven correct
in the weeks ahead and Democrats will have buyers or
more so, he said that that was just a few
hours after our show yesterday, And remember what I said
on the show yesterday. They will rue the day. I
(21:41):
think Democrats have made a huge mistake, and I don't
think that anyone would accuse me of being mister optimism
and politics usually about you know what our sides. I
think that the Kamala Harris decision is going to go
down as one of the one of the additional self
inflicted wounds of the Democrat Party in this election cycle.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Here's my concern on Kamala. They ran the Biden basement
campaign in twenty twenty and it worked. They only have
to hide Kamala from herself for like the next twelve weeks.
So I don't know how active she's gonna be on
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the campaign trail, and I don't know to what extent
anybody's gonna hold her accountable. Remember it's crazy buck In
six weeks people start voting. Four of those days are
the DNC. They're gonna write her a probably decent speech
that she's gonna deliver well off of the teleprompter, and
then we'll be right there boom, people will start voting.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I see what you're saying, but I would put this
into the mix as well. They were able to run
Biden in twenty twenty based on the perception that people
had of Biden from twenty ten or maybe even the
year two thousand, Right, Biden's this old white guy's been
around forever. Everybody kind of knows him, who follows politics
(23:07):
at all, you know, he's sort of aware of him.
And by putting him in the basement, they were able
to hide his primary weakness, which was the obvious physical
and mental frailty that time had done to him. Basically,
I mean the realities of it. Right. Hiding Kamala I
don't think has the same benefits at all, because Kamala is.
(23:31):
They've been hiding Kamala Clay as the VP really for
the last four years. They've tried, they've tried again and
again to make her the heir apparent, to make her
the next big thing in Democrat politics, and it has
been She's a clay, She's a laughline. She's been a
point of mockery for the Biden team for years now.
(23:52):
You know what I'm saying, So I get it. I
don't think she can rest on her laurels. She doesn't
have any laurels.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
She's gonna show up and deliver the speech that they
wrote for her well in Chicago. They're going to roll
out all of the Democrat heavyweights to talk about what
a genius she is for four straight days. Then they're
going to have at least one debate, and she's not
going to basically die on the stage like Joe Biden did.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And they're all going to line up on.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
MSNBC and CNN and they're going to talk about what
an incredible intellectual heavyweight she is and how there was
no comparison at all against Trump, and they are going
to hammer home any criticism of her as sexist and racist,
which is what every DEI Hied does, and she is
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the ultimate DEI Higher. They are going to simultaneously convince
all of their emotionally fragile base, many of whom are
young women, that Trump is going to knock on their
door and drag them out by their hair if they
(25:04):
get accidentally pregnant, and that a handmade's tail is going
to become the real life I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What they're gonna run.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh and they're cocky, because fuck in twenty twenty, Joe
Biden was a joke. But they picked him and they
ran that campaign and they dragged Joe Biden across the
head line, as you pointed out to me, So they
did have a very valid Can I just say, Clay,
you're talking about the messaging and you're and you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I can't you know, I'm not just going to counterpoint
Clay for the sake of it, right. I mean, he's
right about how they're gonna position Kamala, and you're also
I agree. I think this is obvious that they're gonna
start already. They have to get the Oh my gosh, Kama,
look at the numbers. Yeah, I already out there now
Reuter's IPSOS poll. It's making the rounds. I've got to
dig into it a little bit more to make sure
(25:53):
this is legit. But they're saying Harris forty four, Trump
forty two in registered voters as of yesterday. That's the
first I told you, this is what they're going to find.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
A couple of course, the momentum has flipped they're gonna say,
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Tell you right now, I don't believe it. I don't
believe it. Sorry, I don't. I don't see it. And
now you're gonna have me saying do we trust the polls? No,
when the polls have shown the Democrat is going to
get absolutely destroyed and now they have a new candidate
and they can completely shape perception as they see fit
based upon the polling that they do. Do I trust
(26:30):
the polls right now?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm going to look very closely at them and ask
a lot of questions about how who they're uh, you know,
who they're polling, how they're doing it, what the questions are,
Because Clay, if they don't convince people that Kamala is
in this thing in the next two weeks, it's basically
over right correct. So so, I mean, do you think
they're going to just see the presidency to Donald Trump
the next couple of weeks. I don't. No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
They're going to tell you that Kamal has taken the lead,
that this is a brilliant strategic move that just preparing
you for the next week. And they will find a
couple of polls they'll get a little bit of a bump,
and then they'll come back in a couple of weeks
and the numbers will come back down and they'll start
to panic a little bit more. But I'm telling you
get ready for the next week. Kamala has taking the lead.
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Oh Kamala momentum. I can write all of the different
headlines that you're going to see at CNN and MSNBC.
Just get ready, this is what they're going to do.
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the new cycle has been so chaotic that it's hard
you have you feel like you have to keep your
head on a swivel. I'm not sure we've ever seen
a twenty five or twenty six day period where there
has been more unbelievable chaos from the debate, which never
happens this early, to the pressure on what's going to
happen with Biden, the attempted assassination on Trump, the RNC,
(29:45):
Biden drops out, Kamala Harris is now in charge.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
We haven't seen Biden in nearly a week. And if
you're trying to keep up with all that, you have
to be up sometimes late at night. We barely slept
last week during the RNC for all the war that
we were doing the amount of hours. And now I'm
sitting around here, I'm like, man, I need my crock
at coffee. I'm glad to have a coffee company, and
I'm glad it loves America. But you just asked a
(30:11):
scary question that we were talking about off air. If
Trump had lost to Joe Biden in twenty twenty four,
Biden had remained the nominee and Trump had lost, I
would have thought to myself, man, this is crushing. Trump
has now lost to basically a corpse in a presidential election.
(30:32):
But we saw it happen in twenty twenty. It would
be a replica, I actually think, and Biden is so
close to death. Basically you would have been voting for
Kamala Harris anyway. But if Kamala Harris beat Trump, this
would be can you think of a more devastating defeat?
(30:53):
I mean, twenty twenty stunk, but because of COVID it
feels like to me the Watergate election, where the major
thing out there that doesn't have any that neither party
had any control over him. Because Trump was the incumbent,
it cut against him. This is pretty straightforward. Do you
think Biden and Kamala have done a good job? Do
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you think Kamala Harris should be President of the United States? Straightforward?
If she meets Trump.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I mean, we're we're.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
In a serious, serious danger zone. I think as a country,
not only because it's it's Trump losing, but can you
imagine four years of Kamala Harris making every decision that's
the most important in the cum No It would make
me pine for the days of dementia Joe, honestly, because
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at least there was like the sense that he couldn't
get that much done because he couldn't figure out where
he was or what he was doing. Kamala Harris might
be an enthusiastic chief Commissar. I mean, I would be concerned. Look,
I'm putting this out there because I always leave open
the possibility that I'm missing something or that we are
missing something here.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Is Kamala Harris? I just put out a pole question.
Is she actually going to be formidable? Up to this point,
I've just thought she's such a you know, she was
a joke in twenty twenty in her own primary. She's
absurdly cringe in all her public performances and appearances. She's
been nothing but mocked the whole time she's Biden's vice president.
(32:25):
Are we missing something here? Is she going to be
a tough opponent for Trump to the point where she
could even win this election? It's possible. I know. I've
felt like the last you know, because I'm also I've
been thinking all along that Joe Biden is just a
better option for the Democrats than Kamala Harris, Well, maybe not.
Maybe I need to reorient my thinking on that a
little bit, so I'm open to it. I think people
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should call in and tell us if you think Kamala
is going to be formidable for Trump, tell us and
tell us.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Why my thought on how she would win. If I
were sketching out the battleground, tell me if you buy
into this thesis would be that the Biden voters one
hundred percent go to Kamala. That is, if you were
still supporting Biden at this point, you're basically just a
fan of the team, and you're going to vote for
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the Democrat Party, the Capital D no matter who they
put in. So she retains that entire group. She somehow
motivates younger minority voters to turn out at a level
they would not have for Joe Biden. I'm sketching out
what a win for Kamala would look like. Trump in
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some way does not maintain his appeal with independent voters,
and she just barely gets across the line, much like
Biden did in twenty I don't think there's going to
be some ground swell of Kamala's support, but that's kind
of in my head. The way that I would sketch
out what a Kamala victory would require.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
If Kamala wins, then we don't live in the country
that we think we do politically anymore. That's the problem.
If Kamala wins, it means any Democrat can win against
the most unified Republican party and the most energized Republican
party I've seen since nine to eleven. So what does
that tell you? I mean, it's anyway, you know what,
(34:21):
though I'm just leaving open the possibility, I still feel good.
I still feel very good because we were just saying
they're going to try to make it seem like Kamala's
right right neck and neck with Donald Trump in the
polls and everything else. In fact, right now they're saying
she's ahead in the popular vote. The popular vote doesn't
really matter, it's just a snapshot. Well, I just told
you that, of air. The one thing that the odds
have moved on. Trump is still a big favorite to
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win the election. Kamala is now a slight favorite to
win the national popular vote. Trump was favored to beat
Biden in the national popular vote. Now again, these odds
are constantly shifting, but that is the only real substantial
movement that has occurred since Kamala's elevation. You know, to
be fair, I think Biden was a horrible candidate in
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twenty twenty and look what happened. So we have to
leave open the possibility that anything is possible in the
terms of the outcome here, right, you can't eliminate And
I know they've raised what is it, eighty million dollars
or something for her, so they're going to have plenty
of money. It's not going to be an issue. Yeah,
then the mainstream Democrat aligned media is going to do
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everything they can up to and including debasing themselves, lying endlessly,
whatever it takes, because as I've said, Kamala's made and
I know I repeat this, but it is true. Her
her number one constituency is like corporate executives and media execs.
You know, if you're on the board of GE or
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you're on you know, you're you're a CNN senior decision maker.
You love Kamala Harris. That that's who has always been her,
her sort of chief who's So we'll see, we'll get
some more of them. We definitely take some calls on
this too, because I want to hear from some of
our people about how they're seeing it, and we'll look
(36:09):
at the latest numbers on this play. I would also
be curious, if you're in a battleground state and you're
listening to us right now, what reaction have you had
from people who are maybe independent voters. I look at
this and I say, if you're an older Biden supporter,
don't you feel like the way the Democrat Party treated
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him is quite disrespectful. I feel like, if you're eighty
voted Biden in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan and you
were a kind of swing voter, don't you feel like
Kamala Harris really kind of stabbed Joe Biden in the
back and they did him dirty. I have to feel
like there are some voters that are having that reaction.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I'm curious to hear from some of you. Eight hundred
and two eight two two eight A two
All right, Hour two of Clay and Buck kicks off now,
and let's take a look at this new presidential election
that we are faced with. Here. You could say, Clay,
that we should take a look at what can be
unburdened by what has been. I guess the burden was
Joe Biden, and the campaign is no longer burdened with Biden.
(00:21):
That is Kamala's favorite phrase. In case he did not know.
I'm sure we can find a super cut somewhere of
her saying that all the time, a phrase that she
uses constantly that I had never heard before ever. Actually,
I've never heard someone talking about what can be unburdened
by what has been, But Kamalo loves it. So we
will get into some of that also, how to handle
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from the Republican side of things, from the Trump side
of things, how to handle her past and all the
rest of it. She is making her first public appearances.
Let's get to cut eight here. Team Here she is
the VP saying, it's a rollercoaster, mixed but we love
Joe Biden play it and I.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Know it's been a rollercoaster and we're all filled with
so many mixed emotions about this. I just say I
love Joe Biden. I love Joe Biden, and I know
we all do, and we have so many darn good
reasons for loving Joe Biden, and I have full faith
that this team is the team will be the reason
we win in November.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
She is cringe inducing even when she's saying things that
should be very straightforward. Clay, I think that the same
Democrat capacity to fool themselves into the belief that Joe
Biden does not have sinility. I think that same capacity
for delusion is what is present when they're making it
(01:47):
sound like they believe. Kamala Harris and we'll play some
of those clips later is a great politician. No one
really could possibly think.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
That it is so weird in the political sphere to
have this happen. She travels to Wilmington, Delaware, a state
probably that she spent almost no time in prior to
becoming vice president. Because Joe Biden's from Delaware, she is
now stepping in. They have completely swept out all mention
(02:14):
of Biden. She is keeping the same campaign team, same
campaign headquarters, everything, except now she is the head of
the ticket. Joe Biden is kicked to the curb doesn't
basically exist as a part of this ticket anymore, and
we have to figure out who she's going to pick
as vice president. This happens all the time in sports.
That's the only analogy I can think of. It doesn't
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happen very often in politics, where the head coach gets
fired and immediately the new head coach steps in, oftentimes
on his staff with everybody else the same players, management structure,
and suddenly says, hey, I'm the new guy, and everybody
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just starts clapping for that person instead. I mean, this
is strange. Now she's got to pick who her VP
is going to be. Two favorites right now, according to reporting,
appear to be Mark Kelly, the astronaut senator from Arizona,
and who I believe beat Blake Masters by two or
three points. Am I correct in that in twenty twenty
(03:16):
two to win reelection?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And the.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Who I think she's gonna pick the governor of Pennsylvania,
Josh Shapiro. So she's gonna pick it appears one of
those two are favored. I think you're leaving out your buddy.
I think getting uh Basher.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I think Basher is because here's how, here's how, let's
let's do this now. Shall we break down the VP
stakes once again? The vieepstakes we got at least we
know that Jade Vince is the Republican vice presidential nominee.
Here's what I see, Clay, if you have a future
as a Democrat running for the top job, you do
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not want to be in the number too slot on
this Kamala ticket right now, because you're just going down
with a big l. You're taking the loss here. Not
a good move. So that's why Gretchen Whittmer has already
made it clear. She's like, I endors Kamla. I'm not
gonna take the VP job full stop. That's the smart move.
By the way, I think that Whitmer pains me to
(04:19):
say this. I think she could be formidable. Member. We're
not getting Trump again, everybody, this is our last well,
I mean, assuming he wins and he doesn't run again,
but or you know, if he didn't win and he
ran again. But this is our last shot of Trump.
Let's say we get Trump in, we got to come
up with somebody else. I think jad Vance, you know,
is top of the list right now, but there'll be others.
I think Gretchen Whitmer will be formidable on her own
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in twenty twenty eight in that election cycle which starts
in twenty twenty six. Same thing applies for Gavin Newsom,
at least in his own mind. Clay. I think he
believes he's formidable for the top job and wants to run.
And they are a whole bunch of other names. I
won't go through all of them, but you're not hearing
about them as Kamala VP slot. Why because the people
that are going to take the Kamala VP slot for
them it's a shot at being a VP. They're never
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going to be president, and they probably would never be
a VP on another Democrat ticket, So this is the
best they could ever really realistically hope for. And that's
where I think you get Asher in Kentucky because they're
balancing out. Kama's a far left wing candidate everybody. She's
a progressive from California except on one issue, and we
should talk about that. On the criminal justice thing, we
should get to that. I see.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I think Gretchen Whitmer knows she's not going to be
picked because they're not going to go with an all
female ticket, So I think she's pulling herself out of
the running in advance because I don't think all females.
I've never like, why not an all female ticket just
based on their gender. I don't see that as I
think that they have decided that Kamala Harris needs to
(05:46):
have I'm just telling you, I think they've decided she
needs to have a guy, and I think they want
like the blandest, whitest guy possible to try to make
that ticket more palatable for these Midwestern voters.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now question though, I think jos Shapiro, who is Jewish,
this is Jewish, is a problem for Kamala on the
left side in Michigan and offer all the reasons that
we've tinked.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I am fascinated by that. CNN came on and said
that she would be in trouble potentially in Michigan if
she picked a Jewish running mate.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
She might be seeding Michigan to try to win Pennsylvania.
That may be the county.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
And that is, by the way, a sign of how
anti Semitic some of the base of the Democrat Party is,
because you wouldn't say, if Josh Shapiro was a Republican,
I would have been beating the table Trump should pick
him as the VP. If you had a popular Republican
governor in Pennsylvania, Jewish, whatever he is, it would have
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been a no brainer for Trump to pick him because
that would make it more likely that Trump would win Pennsylvania.
And if Trump wins Pennsylvania, there is no pathway for
Democrats to win this election. So the fact that they
said this on cn N, they pointed out, hey, a
Jewish running mate could be an issue.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
There are already people.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Saying Kamala's Jewish husband could potentially be an issue for her.
That's how anti semitic the left is. If that's true, Buck,
then I think Mark Kelly would be the pick. The
question is is he strong enough in Arizona to flip
that state back from right now Trump being in the
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lead to maintain it and the Democrat camp.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So my sense is that I think the likeliest pick
is Mark Kelly, but I think that Bashir is right
behind him because he does that whole russ Belt appeal
to the middle of America thing that Kamala is going
to need to be competitive in any even vaguely competitive
(07:56):
in any of those key swing states so throughout the Midwest. Yes,
So I think those are those are the likely options
you have. I also think that once again, the VP
tends to be an exaggerated part of a of a ticket.
In terms of the election, I think that this is
going to be a Kamala Trump election or Trump Kamala election,
and that's the likeliest way that this You know that
(08:18):
that's the only way that this thing is going to
be determined. I thought this was interesting too, though, because
I disagree and I'm hearing that the GOP is going
to is going to attack her on this, and I
disagree with it. Here's Kamala Harris talking about when she
was a prosecutor in San Francisco. This has cut nine
play it.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You know, as many of you know, before I was
elected as Vice president, before I was elected as United
States Senator, I was the elected attorney general I've mentioned
a California and before that, I was a courtroom prosecutor.
In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Kinds, creditors who abused women, frodsters who ripped off consumers,
cheeters who broke the rules.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
For their own game. So hear me when I say
I know Donald Trump's type.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
All right? Now, put aside the like that thing. I
think it is a mistake if the GOP starts going
after Kamala for being tough on crime, put aside the
Trump component of this. And they did this a little
bit during the primary in twenty twenty. There was that
people would say they call her cop Kamala because she was, like,
(09:39):
you know, a cop going around arresting everybody for for
weed and things like that. That is a mistake. She
is a far leftist progressive from California. She raised money
for BLM rioters in her own name. Do not GOP
staffers Capitol Hill listen to me, are in see people
(10:00):
listen to me. Do not make Kamala seem like she
used to be a badass on crime, very very dumb.
Point out that she is a progressive leftist who is
fine with Soros das all over the country and was
all about rioting during BLM. Do you see what I mean?
I think this is because they've done that, they've gone
the wrong direction in this in the past against Kamala.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
It also forces you to be hitting her on two
different sides. The way to attack her, I agree with you,
is to say she moved from a prosecutor who believed
criminals should be put in prison to someone who believes
there should be no consequences for committing crimes. She is
too soft on crime. She used to be right. I mean,
(10:43):
the way I would address it buck is the same
way Joe Biden was right in nineteen ninety four on
the crime bill he was He was one hundred percent right.
It might be the only thing he got right in
his entire political career. He turned his back on the
tough on crime bills in order to be elected in
twenty twenty. Kamala is actually far worse than Biden because
(11:03):
Biden was an adroit enough politician never too specifically called
to defund the police. Kamala is on tape saying we
need to defund the police.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
The way to attack her is there.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Biden was actually a better candidate, I think, on this
issue because he was never crazy enough to give all
of his support to the far left wing idea of
defunding the police. Kamala was. She's not as skilled a
politician as Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And actually, as one of the reasons that Joe Biden
became the nominee and then the president in twenty twenty
is that he did not totally go off the cliff
with the BLM. You rioting, defund the police, abolish prisons,
Democrat lunacy of that year. He let the shock troops.
He's not opposed to it, don't get me wrong. He
(11:52):
let the shock troops of the Democrat Party do what
they do and mobilize and terrorize. But he knew for
his own purposes is don't go along with that. Let
Antifa be Antifa. But I pretend to be lunch pale
Joe who rides the chow chew with the union members
and everything else, right, I mean, that's that was the
whole game. Kamala went along with it because Kamala has
(12:15):
to play the race politics angle for her own reasons.
So Kamala was all BLM and Kamala was supporting the
riots and saying, you know, get them money to get
them out of jail at all this stuff. Hate her
on that because I have already seen early indications they're
gonna say, oh, well, Kamala used to lock people up
for weed. Kamala locking people up is a good thing, okay, y,
(12:35):
we want more of the locking people up for breaking
the law. I mean, not obviously for just having some weed,
but that's not what really was going on. We come back.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I'll answer your question about how aggressive Trump should be
on going after Kamala for this sixty year old married
man relationship, because I think I've got the answer.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we're rolling through
the Tuesday edition of the program. All right, Buck, we
asked and we've been talking and a lot of you
have opinions. How should Trump treat Kamala Harris's history as
a twenty nine year old dating a sixty year old
married man dating is in quotation marks uh.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Ninety years ago. To be clear, it's just over this
three years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think he should bring it up if she attacks him,
because Biden attacked him over the Stormy Daniels situation. I
think he should respond only if she brings it up
in their debate. I do think they will debate, and
if she brings that up, I think he should say one,
that story's not true. But what is true is when
(15:17):
you were a twenty nine year old you slept with
sixty year old San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown in an
effort to advance your career. You've been a conniving politician
your entire life, and you've slept with anyone that would
make your career more successful, even if they're married and
thirty years older than you. I think that is a
(15:39):
CounterPunch that would land in a big way. I would
deliver it if I were Trump. You're like, what would
you do if she brings up the Stormy Daniels story
in the debate, which Biden did?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Biden went there.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
If she does, I think that's a devastating CounterPunch from Trump. Look,
Trump is Trump, and he's going to do exactly what
he's gonna do, and that's anyone who knows him and
to spending time around him, what would agree with that?
So trying to advise.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
As though this may get to his ear and make
a difference, I think is you know, as a fool's
errand but uh, Clay, I think there, I think we
see a I don't know, man, I think Trump has
gone from Gandalf the Great to Gandolf the White Like.
I just think that what what he has done, beating
the law, their taking a bullet for democracy, as he
(16:28):
himself has said, he's just above all that. I don't
know he's if he's in a debate with her, I'm
not saying he's going to. But look, I think what
we saw when he debated Joe Biden was he just
let everybody see the truth of Biden. I thought Trump
was very presidential. I thought Trump was very disciplined in
that debate. You know, he made one or two quips
(16:48):
about like, you guy doesn't even know what he's saying,
which was totally fair because he didn't know what he
was saying, and even Democrats admitted that, right. Yes, So
I think with Kamala, yes, are there people out there
like you and me who should make sure that the
public knows the truth about how Kamma built their political career? Absolutely,
I'm by no means am I saying it's off limits?
Is it good politics for Trump to go after her
(17:09):
on that, given who he is and the you know,
the women's situation with him, I don't know. I don't
think I think it really matters. I feel like he
just sullies him stuff. I've I think that the Trump
we have now is above having to uh to get
to down in the mud. But some people would say
Trump is the ultimate mud fighter, so don't well, don't stop.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
The reason why I like it, buck is the only
time that probably thirty or forty million people on the
left are even going to know that story happened is
if they're seeing it on the debate because CNN and
MSNBC are never going to cover it. So he forces
them to confront the reality that that happened. And some
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On the front Lines of Truth, we mentioned Kamala harris
favorite phrase before you might be wondering, is it unfair
to just point this out? Is she really using it
that much? Or we exaggerating? Well, I don't know. You
(19:12):
tell me how many times have you heard that phrase?
And then how many times will we hear it right now?
In public pronouncements from Kamala Harris Blake.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
What can be?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
What should be unburdened by what has been? What can
be unburdened by what has been? What can be unburdened
by what has been? See what can be unburdened by
what has been? What can be unburdened by what has been?
What can be unburdened by what has been, unburdened by
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what has been? And knowing what can be, have a
sense of vision about what can be unburdened by what
has been.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
There are those who are unable to see what can be,
but they there are many more who are able to
see what can be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I mean, she could also just say the past doesn't
determine the future. I mean, there's a lot of ways
that if she felt like, but that is clearly her favorite,
her favorite phrase. That is her marquee phrase. That everyone
it's not a good phrase.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It's not hard to even understand it, right, Like, we're
not Yeah, your point, the past doesn't dictate the future
is something that everybody understands, like this is just a
gobblygook phrase that actually is hard to even work through.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, I sit here, and I honestly, it's the kind
of phrase that a person who has been padded on
the back and told oh, you're so smart and great
well everyone you know, her whole professional life while everyone
was like what the heck was that? It's kind of
phrase somebody like that would keep using because no one
will tell me, like, what are you doing? What is that? Even?
(20:58):
And I think that that speaks very much to the
reality of Kamala Harris. So this is Look, I'm sure
you saw David Sacks who was on with us during
the RNC. He's a one of the you know, big
big dogs out of Silicon Valley, one of the big
boys out of Silicon Valley. They do with their own
podcast over there all In he said that he tweeted
(21:20):
this out. According to Axios, Biden didn't want to drop
out in part because Harris wasn't up the taking on Trump.
Democrats ignored this concern because they were so eager to
dump Biden. But I suspect Biden will be proven correct
in the weeks ahead and Democrats will have buyers or
more so, he said that that was just a few
hours after our show yesterday, And remember what I said
on the show yesterday. They will rue the day. I
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think Democrats have made a huge mistake, and I don't
think that anyone would accuse me of being mister optimism
and politics usually about you know what our sides. I
think that the Kamala Harris decision is going to go
down as one of the one of the additional self
inflicted wounds of the Democrat Party in this election cycle.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Here's my concern on Kamala. They ran the Biden basement
campaign in twenty twenty and it worked. They only have
to hide Kamala from herself for like the next twelve weeks.
So I don't know how active she's gonna be on
(22:22):
the campaign trail, and I don't know to what extent
anybody's gonna hold her accountable. Remember it's crazy buck In
six weeks people start voting. Four of those days are
the DNC. They're gonna write her a probably decent speech
that she's gonna deliver well off of the teleprompter, and
then we'll be right there boom, people will start voting.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I see what you're saying, but I would put this
into the mix as well. They were able to run
Biden in twenty twenty based on the perception that people
had of Biden from twenty ten or maybe even the
year two thousand, Right, Biden's this old white guy's been
around forever. Everybody kind of knows him, who follows politics
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at all, you know, he's sort of aware of him.
And by putting him in the basement, they were able
to hide his primary weakness, which was the obvious physical
and mental frailty that time had done to him. Basically,
I mean the realities of it. Right. Hiding Kamala I
don't think has the same benefits at all, because Kamala is.
(23:31):
They've been hiding Kamala Clay as the VP really for
the last four years. They've tried, they've tried again and
again to make her the heir apparent, to make her
the next big thing in Democrat politics, and it has
been She's a clay, She's a laughline. She's been a
point of mockery for the Biden team for years now.
(23:52):
You know what I'm saying, So I get it. I
don't think she can rest on her laurels. She doesn't
have any laurels.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
She's gonna show up and deliver the speech that they
wrote for her well in Chicago. They're going to roll
out all of the Democrat heavyweights to talk about what
a genius she is for four straight days. Then they're
going to have at least one debate, and she's not
going to basically die on the stage like Joe Biden did.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And they're all going to line up on.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
MSNBC and CNN and they're going to talk about what
an incredible intellectual heavyweight she is and how there was
no comparison at all against Trump, and they are going
to hammer home any criticism of her as sexist and racist,
which is what every DEI Hied does, and she is
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the ultimate DEI Higher. They are going to simultaneously convince
all of their emotionally fragile base, many of whom are
young women, that Trump is going to knock on their
door and drag them out by their hair if they
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get accidentally pregnant, and that a handmade's tail is going
to become the real life I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What they're gonna run.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh and they're cocky, because fuck in twenty twenty, Joe
Biden was a joke. But they picked him and they
ran that campaign and they dragged Joe Biden across the
head line, as you pointed out to me, So they
did have a very valid Can I just say, Clay,
you're talking about the messaging and you're and you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I can't you know, I'm not just going to counterpoint
Clay for the sake of it, right. I mean, he's
right about how they're gonna position Kamala, and you're also
I agree. I think this is obvious that they're gonna
start already. They have to get the Oh my gosh, Kama,
look at the numbers. Yeah, I already out there now
Reuter's IPSOS poll. It's making the rounds. I've got to
dig into it a little bit more to make sure
(25:53):
this is legit. But they're saying Harris forty four, Trump
forty two in registered voters as of yesterday. That's the
first I told you, this is what they're going to find.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
A couple of course, the momentum has flipped they're gonna say,
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Tell you right now, I don't believe it. I don't
believe it. Sorry, I don't. I don't see it. And
now you're gonna have me saying do we trust the polls? No,
when the polls have shown the Democrat is going to
get absolutely destroyed and now they have a new candidate
and they can completely shape perception as they see fit
based upon the polling that they do. Do I trust
(26:30):
the polls right now?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm going to look very closely at them and ask
a lot of questions about how who they're uh, you know,
who they're polling, how they're doing it, what the questions are,
Because Clay, if they don't convince people that Kamala is
in this thing in the next two weeks, it's basically
over right correct. So so, I mean, do you think
they're going to just see the presidency to Donald Trump
the next couple of weeks. I don't. No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
They're going to tell you that Kamal has taken the lead,
that this is a brilliant strategic move that just preparing
you for the next week. And they will find a
couple of polls they'll get a little bit of a bump,
and then they'll come back in a couple of weeks
and the numbers will come back down and they'll start
to panic a little bit more. But I'm telling you
get ready for the next week. Kamala has taking the lead.
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Oh Kamala momentum. I can write all of the different
headlines that you're going to see at CNN and MSNBC.
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the new cycle has been so chaotic that it's hard
you have you feel like you have to keep your
head on a swivel. I'm not sure we've ever seen
a twenty five or twenty six day period where there
has been more unbelievable chaos from the debate, which never
happens this early, to the pressure on what's going to
happen with Biden, the attempted assassination on Trump, the RNC,
(29:45):
Biden drops out, Kamala Harris is now in charge.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
We haven't seen Biden in nearly a week. And if
you're trying to keep up with all that, you have
to be up sometimes late at night. We barely slept
last week during the RNC for all the war that
we were doing the amount of hours. And now I'm
sitting around here, I'm like, man, I need my crock
at coffee. I'm glad to have a coffee company, and
I'm glad it loves America. But you just asked a
(30:11):
scary question that we were talking about off air. If
Trump had lost to Joe Biden in twenty twenty four,
Biden had remained the nominee and Trump had lost, I
would have thought to myself, man, this is crushing. Trump
has now lost to basically a corpse in a presidential election.
(30:32):
But we saw it happen in twenty twenty. It would
be a replica, I actually think, and Biden is so
close to death. Basically you would have been voting for
Kamala Harris anyway. But if Kamala Harris beat Trump, this
would be can you think of a more devastating defeat?
(30:53):
I mean, twenty twenty stunk, but because of COVID it
feels like to me the Watergate election, where the major
thing out there that doesn't have any that neither party
had any control over him. Because Trump was the incumbent,
it cut against him. This is pretty straightforward. Do you
think Biden and Kamala have done a good job? Do
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you think Kamala Harris should be President of the United States? Straightforward?
If she meets Trump.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I mean, we're we're.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
In a serious, serious danger zone. I think as a country,
not only because it's it's Trump losing, but can you
imagine four years of Kamala Harris making every decision that's
the most important in the cum No It would make
me pine for the days of dementia Joe, honestly, because
(31:45):
at least there was like the sense that he couldn't
get that much done because he couldn't figure out where
he was or what he was doing. Kamala Harris might
be an enthusiastic chief Commissar. I mean, I would be concerned. Look,
I'm putting this out there because I always leave open
the possibility that I'm missing something or that we are
missing something here.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Is Kamala Harris? I just put out a pole question.
Is she actually going to be formidable? Up to this point,
I've just thought she's such a you know, she was
a joke in twenty twenty in her own primary. She's
absurdly cringe in all her public performances and appearances. She's
been nothing but mocked the whole time she's Biden's vice president.
(32:25):
Are we missing something here? Is she going to be
a tough opponent for Trump to the point where she
could even win this election? It's possible. I know. I've
felt like the last you know, because I'm also I've
been thinking all along that Joe Biden is just a
better option for the Democrats than Kamala Harris, Well, maybe not.
Maybe I need to reorient my thinking on that a
little bit, so I'm open to it. I think people
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should call in and tell us if you think Kamala
is going to be formidable for Trump, tell us and
tell us.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Why my thought on how she would win. If I
were sketching out the battleground, tell me if you buy
into this thesis would be that the Biden voters one
hundred percent go to Kamala. That is, if you were
still supporting Biden at this point, you're basically just a
fan of the team, and you're going to vote for
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the Democrat Party, the Capital D no matter who they
put in. So she retains that entire group. She somehow
motivates younger minority voters to turn out at a level
they would not have for Joe Biden. I'm sketching out
what a win for Kamala would look like. Trump in
(33:39):
some way does not maintain his appeal with independent voters,
and she just barely gets across the line, much like
Biden did in twenty I don't think there's going to
be some ground swell of Kamala's support, but that's kind
of in my head. The way that I would sketch
out what a Kamala victory would require.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
If Kamala wins, then we don't live in the country
that we think we do politically anymore. That's the problem.
If Kamala wins, it means any Democrat can win against
the most unified Republican party and the most energized Republican
party I've seen since nine to eleven. So what does
that tell you? I mean, it's anyway, you know what,
(34:21):
though I'm just leaving open the possibility, I still feel good.
I still feel very good because we were just saying
they're going to try to make it seem like Kamala's
right right neck and neck with Donald Trump in the
polls and everything else. In fact, right now they're saying
she's ahead in the popular vote. The popular vote doesn't
really matter, it's just a snapshot. Well, I just told
you that, of air. The one thing that the odds
have moved on. Trump is still a big favorite to
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win the election. Kamala is now a slight favorite to
win the national popular vote. Trump was favored to beat
Biden in the national popular vote. Now again, these odds
are constantly shifting, but that is the only real substantial
movement that has occurred since Kamala's elevation. You know, to
be fair, I think Biden was a horrible candidate in
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twenty twenty and look what happened. So we have to
leave open the possibility that anything is possible in the
terms of the outcome here, right, you can't eliminate And
I know they've raised what is it, eighty million dollars
or something for her, so they're going to have plenty
of money. It's not going to be an issue. Yeah,
then the mainstream Democrat aligned media is going to do
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everything they can up to and including debasing themselves, lying endlessly,
whatever it takes, because as I've said, Kamala's made and
I know I repeat this, but it is true. Her
her number one constituency is like corporate executives and media execs.
You know, if you're on the board of GE or
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you're on you know, you're you're a CNN senior decision maker.
You love Kamala Harris. That that's who has always been her,
her sort of chief who's So we'll see, we'll get
some more of them. We definitely take some calls on
this too, because I want to hear from some of
our people about how they're seeing it, and we'll look
(36:09):
at the latest numbers on this play. I would also
be curious, if you're in a battleground state and you're
listening to us right now, what reaction have you had
from people who are maybe independent voters. I look at
this and I say, if you're an older Biden supporter,
don't you feel like the way the Democrat Party treated
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him is quite disrespectful. I feel like, if you're eighty
voted Biden in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan and you
were a kind of swing voter, don't you feel like
Kamala Harris really kind of stabbed Joe Biden in the
back and they did him dirty. I have to feel
like there are some voters that are having that reaction.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I'm curious to hear from some of you. Eight hundred
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