July 24, 2024 • 36 mins
Kamala, right now, is “generic Democrat.” It’s Trump vs. the machine. Where’s left for Democrats to go, call Trump worse than Hitler? Leftist publications are so dishonest, such liars. VIP emailer says stop talking about Kamala being good-looking. Buck confesses that Mitt Romney is a very good-looking man. Democrats don’t want Harris to pick the PA governor because he’s Jewish. Caller view on voting demographics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. As we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We got some early news that is out there.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
In terms of what the impact of Kamala Harris might
be from a polling perspective.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Going to dive into that.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
That is from CNN, but several different stories underway. Christopher
Ray is testifying right now on Capitol Hill. Buck He
said that they have at least found a Google search
from the shooter wanting to know how far away Lee
Harvey Oswald was from John F. Kennedy Junior, as part
(00:45):
of his research potentially into what he needed to know
to try to kill Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We haven't said this yet either. I will just say it.
I had assumed that he would have had some kind
of a optic, some kind of whether it's a scope
or a red dot site on. Apparently he was using
iron sights. Now, those of you who shoot a fair amount, no, yes,
(01:11):
if you are a good shooter, you can shoot fine
with iron sights, but it is definitely more challenging, especially
for somebody who's an amateur. An iron sites shot at
that distance, it's very it's doable, but it's not. It's
not super easy, which means this guy was spending more
time in preparation and planning than I think was initially thought.
(01:35):
And so that goes into all this and I keep
in mind we should know more about it than we
currently do. But the Secret Service investigation is they're intentionally
slow rolling it because it's.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Going to be a disaster for the reputation than services.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Coming out with new videos that are being uncovered. Fox
News had one yesterday. It now appears that he fired
eight shots from the roof of that building. That's at
least they found eight casings and believe that he may
have fired eight shots. What's also staggering if you watch
one of the newest videos that is now out. I
(02:10):
believe it is a police video that is a local
police officer talking. They tried this idiot Cheetle, the head
of the Secret Service, who now has finally resigned. They
tried to say they didn't need to have people on
the roof there because the slope was such that it
was unsafe. I mean, you can see the guys just
(02:30):
standing on top of the roof with no difficulty at all.
I mean a lot of you, I bet out there,
have walked around on your own roofs, or have worked
maybe even as roofers, maybe have built houses roofs are sloped.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
This isn't even a normal sloped roof.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's kind of like a if you ever I don't
know if you ever went to school in any case, Buck,
they probably didn't have a lot of these in New
York City. We would go to portables sometimes. I was
a public school kid in Nashville, and we would be
in portable classrooms that is, you know, the prefab that
for the schools weren't big enough or whatever they needed more,
(03:09):
and you'd walk out to a portable. I did that
when I was in elementary school, and it kind of
has the look of a portable where this is not
like some incredibly well crafted building with a really difficult roof.
I just can't get over the failure here. Every time
another one of these videos comes out, making people aware
(03:30):
for how long this guy was seen with a rifle
on top of the roof. It is even more indefensible
as more and more of that comes out.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, I tease this.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't know if you have seen it yet, Buck,
but the pole that is most recently out is from CNN,
and this is their national poll, just released in like
the last thirty minutes or so. It has Trump up
three forty nine to forty six. That's actually an increase
(04:05):
in the support that Trump had versus Kamala Harris because
they were polling against multiple candidates. Trump up three in
this Now that Kamala is the official candidate, Trump is
winning men by eleven in the CNN poll, fifty three
to forty two. But even for women, Kamala Harris is
(04:27):
only winning them fifty to forty five, which actually surprised
me a little bit. And there's a bunch of crosstabs
here in terms of where the support for Kamala Harris
coming from. But does that surprise you? I actually thought
maybe we still will. There was a Reuter's poll that
(04:47):
was out that showed Reuters has tended to show Democrats
better than anybody else in this poll season. They tended
to have Biden higher. They had Kamala Harris up by
a point or so. But I actually expected, and I
said this on the show I think yesterday in the
day before that, over the next week to ten days,
I thought we would see a honeymoon sort of Kamala bounce.
(05:10):
The fact that CNN doesn't have Kamala really getting much
of a boost, in fact, she's down from the last
time they polled, surprises me.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Does it surprise you? Were you anticipating that Kamala maybe
would get more of a initial favorability bounce than we
are maybe seeing so far in the early polls that
are coming out.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think that what this returns Democrats to is essentially
generic Democrat versus Trump. That's really what this is, right.
It's Biden was able in twenty twenty to we all know,
but he was able to squeak through on anti trump Ism,
(05:52):
and I think they might have been able to do
that with a whole range of Democrats at the time.
But you know, we can never run that experiment again.
I think that the number that Kamala has right now
would be similar to the numbers that pretty much any
known Democrat on the national stage would be able to pull,
you know, reasonable choice for the Democrats would be able
to pull against Donald Trump. So this is now just
(06:14):
Trump versus the machine, is what I'm saying. I don't
even think this is a Kamala bounce, so to speak.
I think this is a Democrat that is not Joe
Biden can count on these this kind of support Nashally.
Now they're saying it's within the margin of error. We've
thought all along, you know, until Biden's collapse happened, that
it was likely that you'll have a very tight election,
(06:37):
just based upon the registration numbers, just based on how
many Democrat voters are, how many Republican voters there are.
The real question, Clay is okay, so they get a
reset now generic Democrat versus Trump. Kamala is in the
role of generic Democrat. Is she able to gain ground?
That's where I become very.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I find that very unlikely and if anything, I think
Kamala Harris is likely to lose ground. I mean some
of the things that she said, I know the media
will cover for. We know that they'll do everything they
can to create a false narrative of what she has
stood for. Put aside who she is, but like what
she's done as a politician. Uh, but some of the
things that she has said, it's just I mean, the border,
is it just that if they hammer her on the border,
(07:18):
an energy policy, and the fact that she doesn't know
anything about the economy or how to you know, bolster
the economy that I think should.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Be able to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I mean that that would be my main line, my
main lines of attack.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, I think the problem that they have with Kamala
Harris is she's not well known.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And this is where I think it's gonna be hard
to move the needle. And maybe I'm gonna end up
being wrong on this. But what we what have we
seen with attacks on Trump so far via Biden and surrogates.
They haven't worked. They convict him a thirty four fela.
They're trying to put him in prison for the rest
of his life. They raid mar A Lago and Trump
(08:06):
is it just he's teflon. It bounces off of him,
I think because once you call somebody Hitler, I'm just
being honest.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What's the next step?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Right, Like, once you try and it succeeded with some
because I think this is where trunch Trump derangement syndrome
comes from. But once I tell you that someone is Hitler,
where do you go from there? It's hard to be
like he's worse than Hitler. Really, I mean, he was
president for four years and most people just had a
(08:38):
little bit more money in their pocket, and the economy
was pretty good, and mortgage rates were low, and then
COVID happened, which wasn't his fault. But everything in the
February of twenty twenty was as strong as this country's
ever been.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We had no wars.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I think it's really hard to try to go back
and ring the bell again of Hitler, and then I think,
buck they've undercut their democracy argument, which might well have
worked in twenty twenty two. But when you try to
put him in prison for the rest of his life,
and now when you elevate someone who has never actually
been selected as your nominee to be your nominee invalidating
(09:14):
fourteen million primary votes in the process, really all you
got left is try to say he's Hitler. I mean,
which I'm sure Kamala Harrison team are going to try
to do. And then I think she's gonna say that
you know, Trump is going to show up on your
front porch if your daughter's pregnant and she's fourteen, and
he's gonna arrest her. I mean, that's gonna be the
next day. This is going to try Trump is awful.
And then racism, sexism, abortion, election.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's it. Yes, that's all.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
There's nothing that Kamala Harris can point to as some
kind of legislative victory that she shepherded through the borders
the worst that has ever been, and she was the
borders are well, so we should talk about this. They're
trying to now pretend like well, technically speaking, the Congress
never authorized a borders are It was handed to the
de Vice President very publicly as her PORTFOLI as VP
(10:01):
to handle, and it was a total It's such a
disaster that they now are lying about the fact that
it was aidur So that tells you I think everything.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I don't think that Kamala Harris is a strong politician.
But we have to grapple with the reality that the
Democrat machine is so strong that they again, as I've said,
they made a guy with dementia the president. Yes, a
visible and obvious cognitive decline. Even four years ago, it
was obvious, we were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It was crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So if they can do that, they can do anything.
And so that's why we are not taking it for granted.
I've also been getting those emos too, like you're not
taking her seriously, you know, now we're taking her very seriously.
She's absurd as a politician, but that doesn't mean she
can't win.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I also think it's important to take away in addition
to COVID and the fact that they could bury Biden
in the basement and that reason allow him to get elected.
When they picked Biden, they surveyed the entire field of
Democrat contenders and said, we think Joe Biden is uniquely
(11:02):
positioned for us to be able to ride him weekend
at Bernie style to a victory over Donald Trump. He
was their pick among a field of many other contenders.
That didn't happen with Kamala. They just had to elevate
her because she was the next man or next woman up.
(11:23):
She wouldn't be their hand selected candidate to beat Trump,
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But this is why she's the ultimate EI hunt. Yes,
and there's also I'm just gonna be very there's already
people who have found Biden talking about how she's the
peak of Biden himself saying like she's what you know,
DEI is so important and even at the top of
my administration, look.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
At the DEI.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You know that we've got here with Kamala Harris. So
I don't want to hear any of this. Oh it's racist. No, sorry,
you can't do something. Say it's your policy, and then
we say that's your policy, we're not allowed to talk
about it. That's not gonna work. But on the borders
our thing. Hat tip our friend Sean Davis over at
the Federalist. This is so funny. He shared this out
on x that Axios was saying that that Harris was
(12:05):
never the borders are, and then people found Axios previously
any want to guess writing about Kamala Harris as the
borders are. So now they are going back because, like
I call it, their hand in the cookie jar. Now
they are going back. And this is the editor's note.
This article has been updated and clarified to note that
(12:27):
Axios was among the news outlets that incorrectly labeled Harris
a borders are in twenty twenty one Soviet style rewriting
of history before your eyes. It is not an exaggeration.
They are scrubbing the internet so that you can't see
how much they said Kamala Harris as the borders are
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because they clay when they said it. They were trying
to elevate her right Dad was, Oh, she's the borders
are she's important, she's so smart, and then it was
a catastrophe and how they're trying to run her.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
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Speaker 3 (13:04):
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Speaker 3 (14:46):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Bucker and to
be getting some of your calls here shortly, and remember
we got our friend Tommy Laren will be joining Third
Hour to talk about how to bring forward the truth
about Kamala without having it backfire.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
So there we go.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Somebody's got to make a great Kamala documentary, you know
what I mean, Like, where's Denesh. I'm gonna throw up
the Denesh deesuza, you know the bat signal. You know,
we need a document I don't know if we can
do it in whatever is like thirty days here, we
don't have a lot of time. But someone has to
get the truth out about Kamala Harris's record and her
past and everything else because the media is just gonna
(15:21):
I told you, Soviet style rewriting of everything is already underway.
Their news articles are removing their own previous descriptions of
her so that then they can go forward and pretend
that that's not what everybody said she was at the time.
I mean, Clay, that's in Axios is Democrat crap. But
you know that's that's just outrageous. Also, I want to
remind you all Clay and Buck VIPs go to clanbuck
(15:43):
dot com. Please sign up. Appreciate so many of you
who do you can stream behind the paywall. We also
give you a VIP email address. Clay, let's tackle this
one VIP listener, Nancy, she writes, please stop talking about
how pretty Kamala is was. It is insulting to think
men are so simple minded and blinded by her beauty
that they can't see her history and track record. Men
(16:04):
that shallow probably not interested in voting. I won't even
go into how offensive this is to women, and that's
from Nancy. Can I just say I'm I'm I'm an
observer of the world, Nancy. There are plenty of politicians
who I can assure you if they had looked like missus, doubtfire.
This is just the reality of the world we live in.
(16:24):
They would not have become household names. They would not
have been as there. Being an attractive woman is an
enormous asset in all realms of life, including politics. Clay.
I could name some names, but I won't. It's not
just attractive women either. By the way JFK.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Romney's hands, I mean, he's betraying our team. But Mitt
Romney's a handsome guy. That Mett Romney is a very
good looking guy.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
JFK probably huge percentage of the reason he got elected presidental.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Segment Clay and Buck talking about what guys and politics
are hot.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I mean, look, let's be honest.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Glenny Young Kiddy puts on that you know, Fleecevesten, that's
the guy you want coaching your kids basketball team right there,
the square jaw all American.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You're being too kind to Kamala. Is not the email
that I expected that we would get from Nancy. And
by the way, Nancy, just this is my theory in life, which,
by the way, Laura Travis, my wife, also signs on
to Without pretty girls, we would all still be.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Living in caves.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
True, a huge majority of male accomplishment in all facets
of life is about trying to impress pretty girls and
male female attraction and the propagation of the species. It
is the basis of civilization, which is why Democrats try
to destroy it.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
By eliminating gender. Ah ah, very good transition. So I'm sorry, Nancy,
but Kamala Harris is an attractive woman. Hopefully she'll be
an attractive woman who gets her ass kicked by Donald Trump.
But she did get me to admit that Mitt Romney's
a good looking guy. I wasn't expecting you to go
in that direction. I didn't know this closet love affair
that you have for Mett Romney and his incredibly good looks.
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One thing we haven't spend a lot of time on
so far is who is going to be the vice
presidential nominee for Kamala Harris?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And the choice that she would make.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Would, in theory tell you something about her theory of
the election. That is, where can she gain? What can
the VP ad? Right now, Buck, as I am talking
to you in real time, the poly market VP nominees
Mark Kelly is the favorite.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He is the.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Astronaut senator from from Arizona. Second spot, Roy Cooper, he
is the term limited governor of North Carolina. Third spot,
actually just jumped into second spot maybe based on what
you're about to tell us. Josh Shapiro, Democrat, governor of Pennsylvania.
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And then you got Mayor Pete the failed Transportation Secretary,
Andy but Year, the governor of Kentucky. Tim Waltz, the
governor of Minnesota. That would be the top five most
likely Ish contenders. And as we were in a commercial break,
you said that there is a tweet out from inside
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of one of Trump's campaign directors and it says what.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
This is from Chris la Sevita, who is a political
strategist and a He's at the top of the Trump team.
I mean, he's one of the top guys and a
Pittsburgh guy, so he knows Pennsylvania. His tweet is that
reliable sources confirm Kamala to pick Governor Shapiro from Pennsylvania.
(20:47):
Now there's some there's some open territory here. I I've
that seems like the suggestion is that Joshapiro has has
would accept right. But yeah, Tamala picking him doesn't necessarily
you know, it might be word from inside of the
Kamala campaign that that's who they want, and it has
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not yet. I think that's not likely, but I'm just
leaving open that possibility. I think if it's getting out there,
they would keep it close hold enough. But let's just
play this out. It's not fully confirmed yet. I'm sure
CNN and others will have this up, you know, in
a matter of minutes, and we can look and see
whether it's confirmed or denied by the campaign. That's a
strong pick for Kamala Harris. If it goes that way.
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I think it also play. While people will say it'll
be a problem for the Michigan let's be honest. The
Michigan Muslim Democrat voters because Joshapiro is Jewish. I wish
that that wasn't a consideration, but apparently the Democrats are
saying it is. But it will also help with Jewish
voters who have voted Democrat in the past, who have
(21:51):
felt like the Bide administration on Israel and Kamala Harris
on Israel has been challenging at best as a or
you know, a week at best as a candidate or
as a presidency for them. You know, Nen Yahoo is
speaking today just in a matter of hours, right or
less than that. I think he's speaking soon in like
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thirty minutes. I think thirty minutes. Yeah, I had to
look at the clock. And Biden, well, who's really the president?
Now this feels like a whole other question, like do
you even care if Joe Biden shows up? The guy's
only president for a few more months. By the way,
he shouldn't be president. He should have to resign. But
that's a whole other consideration.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
So to me, the VP analysis, I thought she would
pick Shapiro because there is almost no pathway to Democrats
winning in twenty twenty four without Pennsylvania. The math on Pennsylvania,
given how many electoral votes it brings to bear is
virtually impossible.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So if you pointed to a state right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Now in the battleground states, if you say North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona,
and Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. If you accept those
seven as the battleground, and that's assuming that Democrats can
hold on to Maine, New Hampshire, Virginia, Minnesota, New Mexico,
states that have moved into.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
The periphery of the battleground.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
But the seven I just mentioned the number one must
win for Democrats as Pennsylvania. So to me, I predicted
on Twitter as soon as Kamala got the nomination, I said,
I think she's gonna pick Josh Shapiro.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now the challenge is at what you just hit.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
The Democrat Party has such an anti Semitic part of
its base that in Michigan in particular, where you have
the Jewish vote in the Arab vote, does that maybe
strengthen you and help you win Pennsylvania, But does it
take away Michigan. Remember the map as it's set up
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right now, Trump has a lot of ways he can win.
Winning any one of the three Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania,
probably gives Trump the presidency. Does that strengthen you in Pennsylvania,
but we can you in.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Michigan.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's maybe why Mark Kelly in Arizona has been rising
up the board because he's a statewide elected official in Arizona.
Maybe you put Arizona back in play without messing up
some of the Midwest because you're too Jewish. Remember Kabla
also has a Jewish husband, and that might well turn
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into a story here too. I just bring it up
because they're protesting Netanyahu the left is while he's in
DC to address Congress.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It'll be interesting, Clay, when you're in Israel coming up here, yes,
to see what the sentiment there is about what the
Biden administration has been like, especially in this particularly trying
time for Israel. I think you're gonna hear a lot
of criticism of where Biden has you know, he's tried
to have it both both ways. He's tried to play
both sides of it. You know, Oh, I support Israel,
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but then criticizing Israel for everything they do to try
to root out the the malignant tumor that is Hamas.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Anyway, I think.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
That that's that's a part of what what you're gonna
find over there. I also think that when you talk
about the anti Semitism that is within the Democrat Party,
it's not about policy for a lot of these Democrats.
I'm just gonna say it. You know, the Ilhan Omar
wing of the Democrat Party, there are a lot, they
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have a lot of constituents who just are are truly
anti Semitic as and they just don't like Jewish people. Yes,
and that's that's the truth. That's why you saw what
you saw on college campuses. That's why you saw the
harassment and the you know, if it were in a
different context, you'd just say, well, they're racist, but obviously Judaism,
it's a little more complicated than that. It is racist,
(25:57):
but it's also more than that, right, because it's it's
tie back to millennia really of anti semitism, certainly centuries
of anti semitism from all over the world. So I
think I think that Pennsylvania is a smart play for
the Harris team. I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
It makes sense.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's not like they came up with some brilliant strategy.
We'd already talked about this. I don't think it's I'm
not surprised, right that this is the way that they went.
I am a little surprised that Josh Shapiro, Again, this
is not confirmed. So we may come back in the
third hour and tell you, guys, oh, it's actually in
a but a senior Trump admit, a senior Trump campaign
(26:34):
guy saying that reliable sources have told him it's pretty good. Okay,
it's pretty good that this is what's going on, and
we be analyzing this anyway. I must mean that Shapiro
must think she has a real shot. And he's a
smart He's a smart guy. I mean, he understands the game, right,
So he must think Kamala has a change, because you
wouldn't if you're Josh Shapiro, you wouldn't tie yourself to
a no chance ticket. Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
We also should point out that there may be a
little bit of three dimensional four dimensional chess being played
by the Trump team. When Chris la Savita says that
Shapiro's the choice and then we talk about it, I
just retweeted and said, interesting, is he trying to gin
up pressure to make him not the choice from the
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anti Jewish wing of the Democrat Party. Remember I'm just saying,
if I'm reading what the Trump team, maybe it'll well
be that Kamala wants to pick him. But if you
think he's a strong choice, but you know there's gonna
be internal opposition to him, do you go negative? Remember
(27:40):
we just saw all this on play out with the
Trump selection. It's not just people advocating for their guy
or their gal. It's also the op research where you say, hey,
I think pick should be X, but you definitely can't
pick why because he said this or he he is
really toxic with this. So when I see that, I
(28:04):
see it as a potential way to influence Kamala's VP
selection through some sort of political jiu jitsu. Does that
make sense to you?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
If you really thought, if you're Trump's campaign manager, director,
whatever it is, and you really thought Josh Shapiro was
the choice and he was a great choice, would you
want to put it out or would you just want
to sit back quietly and wait for them to make
the pick. I don't think it makes Why would it
make a difference.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Because I think as soon as he says it and
it starts to circulate, there's going to be a bunch
of anti Josh Shapiro talk directed at Kamala Harris. I
see you're saying, so he's inviting that, he's inviting the
backlash before it's decided that Jewish voters across America can
see the truth of.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
The Democrat Party. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I actually think it's a smart play potentially by him,
but I'm not sure it's reflective of Shapiro really being
the choice. And if he loved the Shapiro choice, meaning
as a opponent, I think you sit back and you
hold your fire.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
If they were going to pick may Or Pete, I
wouldn't say a word.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
If I were the Trump team, I would be like,
I wanted it to be Mayor Pete.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
But if it's Mayor Pete, I'm like, you know, people
can't even get on their Delta Airlines flights right now.
Everybody who flies Southwest Airlines like I do. We got
stuck a couple of years ago. The whole system collapsed.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
We haven't talked about it, but I bet there's people
listening to us right now who've not been able to
get on their Delta Airlines flights for five days. I mean,
this is one of the all time worst implosions we've
ever seen of an airline, particularly when weather's good. It's
not like we got hit with a massive ice storm
or there's some blizzard that swept across the country. By
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and large, the weather's pretty good across the whole country,
and Atlanta Airport looks like a refugee camp right now.
There's people sleeping everywhere, there's no there's no ability to
get cars. So I don't think they'll pick may or Pete.
But if I thought they were, I might even come
on here and say I think it's a brilliant strategic
ploy because you want your enemy to make the worst
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I was actually thinking about you because Carrie's Carrie's dad
and I were hanging out my father in law and
we were watching you know, he was here for a
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some some Netflix movie with Russell Crowe, who you know.
Russell has been eating a lot of peanut eminems. I
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Nancy is going to be mad if you talk about
someone's physical appearance. She said, we're talking too much. Now
you're taking shots at Russell Crowe. You're praising Kabla. I
just just I don't want Nancy angry.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Russell is a drone operator at the show of the
movie is called Land of Bad. He's a drone operator
and he looks like he's expecting twins. But anyway, uh,
it's just true, and that would make him a democrat
because they they sound like a special operations scene. It's
a very sort of uh you know, Paint by Numbers
action thriller.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I mean it gets a little weird at the end,
but it's fine. I wouldn't recommend it, but Russell Crow's
in it anyway. He keeps going. He's a drone operator
and he's trying to support this mission with the drone
which can fire, how fire missiles, et cetera. And his
boss and everybody else at the drone base or all
watching a Vall's game and like cannot be bothered. They're
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all watching the falls.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
And they're like yeah, and he comes in.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
He's kind of like, hey, guys, like I think our
operators are like wounded, and like you know, they're.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Like shut off.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
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I was like, oh, Clay could be right there with him,
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you know, three years ago. So thank you for the
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Speaker 1 (34:44):
I was actually yesterday tying that in the guy who
had the incredible slide Hunter Insley. I was at a
fundraiser for John Stevens, who's a Tennessee state Senator, and
Hunter Insley, who won the national championship for Tennessee with
a great slide, was there and met my nine year old.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
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Buck in Tennessee says that we're not giving Kamala enough credit. John,
what you got for me?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
All right? Guys, First off, Megadittos, I am a long
time attendee of the Advanced School of Conservative Study. All right,
so first off, you're discounting the black vote. So earlier
this year, you guys are talking a lot about how
Trump was going to increase the percentage of black voters.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Now that's clay, this is actually this is the place.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yes, I say, to be fair, I said that I
think Trump will get twenty five percent of the black
mail vote. That was easier against Biden than Kamala. Maybe,
but yes, that's my position.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
All right, think that that's going to be a struggle
because the black males are going to do with black
females telling the duke at least smart ones.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Also, by the way, hold on, let me just say
there are a lot of black men right now saying,
excuse me, you just told me that I'm going to
do exactly what black women tell me. I actually think
there's a lot of black men that want to do
the opposite of what they're being told by black women
to do.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
That's my thesis part of this.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
But continue, Okay, that's coming from from a man who's
been married for twenty seven years.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Let's be doing what your wife tells you to do
is different than what I think.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
That's what anybody else I think that's what he meant. Yeah, oh,
we got ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That's from yesterday.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
All men are influenced by attractive women.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Oh we agree.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I agree they are attractive women.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh, John, why didn't say more? Maybe we got more
for the third hour.
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. As we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We got some early news that is out there.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
In terms of what the impact of Kamala Harris might
be from a polling perspective.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Going to dive into that.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
That is from CNN, but several different stories underway. Christopher
Ray is testifying right now on Capitol Hill. Buck He
said that they have at least found a Google search
from the shooter wanting to know how far away Lee
Harvey Oswald was from John F. Kennedy Junior, as part
(00:45):
of his research potentially into what he needed to know
to try to kill Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We haven't said this yet either. I will just say it.
I had assumed that he would have had some kind
of a optic, some kind of whether it's a scope
or a red dot site on. Apparently he was using
iron sights. Now, those of you who shoot a fair amount, no, yes,
(01:11):
if you are a good shooter, you can shoot fine
with iron sights, but it is definitely more challenging, especially
for somebody who's an amateur. An iron sites shot at
that distance, it's very it's doable, but it's not. It's
not super easy, which means this guy was spending more
time in preparation and planning than I think was initially thought.
(01:35):
And so that goes into all this and I keep
in mind we should know more about it than we
currently do. But the Secret Service investigation is they're intentionally
slow rolling it because it's.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Going to be a disaster for the reputation than services.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Coming out with new videos that are being uncovered. Fox
News had one yesterday. It now appears that he fired
eight shots from the roof of that building. That's at
least they found eight casings and believe that he may
have fired eight shots. What's also staggering if you watch
one of the newest videos that is now out. I
(02:10):
believe it is a police video that is a local
police officer talking. They tried this idiot Cheetle, the head
of the Secret Service, who now has finally resigned. They
tried to say they didn't need to have people on
the roof there because the slope was such that it
was unsafe. I mean, you can see the guys just
(02:30):
standing on top of the roof with no difficulty at all.
I mean a lot of you, I bet out there,
have walked around on your own roofs, or have worked
maybe even as roofers, maybe have built houses roofs are sloped.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
This isn't even a normal sloped roof.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's kind of like a if you ever I don't
know if you ever went to school in any case, Buck,
they probably didn't have a lot of these in New
York City. We would go to portables sometimes. I was
a public school kid in Nashville, and we would be
in portable classrooms that is, you know, the prefab that
for the schools weren't big enough or whatever they needed more,
(03:09):
and you'd walk out to a portable. I did that
when I was in elementary school, and it kind of
has the look of a portable where this is not
like some incredibly well crafted building with a really difficult roof.
I just can't get over the failure here. Every time
another one of these videos comes out, making people aware
(03:30):
for how long this guy was seen with a rifle
on top of the roof. It is even more indefensible
as more and more of that comes out.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, I tease this.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't know if you have seen it yet, Buck,
but the pole that is most recently out is from CNN,
and this is their national poll, just released in like
the last thirty minutes or so. It has Trump up
three forty nine to forty six. That's actually an increase
(04:05):
in the support that Trump had versus Kamala Harris because
they were polling against multiple candidates. Trump up three in
this Now that Kamala is the official candidate, Trump is
winning men by eleven in the CNN poll, fifty three
to forty two. But even for women, Kamala Harris is
(04:27):
only winning them fifty to forty five, which actually surprised
me a little bit. And there's a bunch of crosstabs
here in terms of where the support for Kamala Harris
coming from. But does that surprise you? I actually thought
maybe we still will. There was a Reuter's poll that
(04:47):
was out that showed Reuters has tended to show Democrats
better than anybody else in this poll season. They tended
to have Biden higher. They had Kamala Harris up by
a point or so. But I actually expected, and I
said this on the show I think yesterday in the
day before that, over the next week to ten days,
I thought we would see a honeymoon sort of Kamala bounce.
(05:10):
The fact that CNN doesn't have Kamala really getting much
of a boost, in fact, she's down from the last
time they polled, surprises me.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Does it surprise you? Were you anticipating that Kamala maybe
would get more of a initial favorability bounce than we
are maybe seeing so far in the early polls that
are coming out.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think that what this returns Democrats to is essentially
generic Democrat versus Trump. That's really what this is, right.
It's Biden was able in twenty twenty to we all know,
but he was able to squeak through on anti trump Ism,
(05:52):
and I think they might have been able to do
that with a whole range of Democrats at the time.
But you know, we can never run that experiment again.
I think that the number that Kamala has right now
would be similar to the numbers that pretty much any
known Democrat on the national stage would be able to pull,
you know, reasonable choice for the Democrats would be able
to pull against Donald Trump. So this is now just
(06:14):
Trump versus the machine, is what I'm saying. I don't
even think this is a Kamala bounce, so to speak.
I think this is a Democrat that is not Joe
Biden can count on these this kind of support Nashally.
Now they're saying it's within the margin of error. We've
thought all along, you know, until Biden's collapse happened, that
it was likely that you'll have a very tight election,
(06:37):
just based upon the registration numbers, just based on how
many Democrat voters are, how many Republican voters there are.
The real question, Clay is okay, so they get a
reset now generic Democrat versus Trump. Kamala is in the
role of generic Democrat. Is she able to gain ground?
That's where I become very.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I find that very unlikely and if anything, I think
Kamala Harris is likely to lose ground. I mean some
of the things that she said, I know the media
will cover for. We know that they'll do everything they
can to create a false narrative of what she has
stood for. Put aside who she is, but like what
she's done as a politician. Uh, but some of the
things that she has said, it's just I mean, the border,
is it just that if they hammer her on the border,
(07:18):
an energy policy, and the fact that she doesn't know
anything about the economy or how to you know, bolster
the economy that I think should.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Be able to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I mean that that would be my main line, my
main lines of attack.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, I think the problem that they have with Kamala
Harris is she's not well known.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And this is where I think it's gonna be hard
to move the needle. And maybe I'm gonna end up
being wrong on this. But what we what have we
seen with attacks on Trump so far via Biden and surrogates.
They haven't worked. They convict him a thirty four fela.
They're trying to put him in prison for the rest
of his life. They raid mar A Lago and Trump
(08:06):
is it just he's teflon. It bounces off of him,
I think because once you call somebody Hitler, I'm just
being honest.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What's the next step?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Right, Like, once you try and it succeeded with some
because I think this is where trunch Trump derangement syndrome
comes from. But once I tell you that someone is Hitler,
where do you go from there? It's hard to be
like he's worse than Hitler. Really, I mean, he was
president for four years and most people just had a
(08:38):
little bit more money in their pocket, and the economy
was pretty good, and mortgage rates were low, and then
COVID happened, which wasn't his fault. But everything in the
February of twenty twenty was as strong as this country's
ever been.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We had no wars.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I think it's really hard to try to go back
and ring the bell again of Hitler, and then I think,
buck they've undercut their democracy argument, which might well have
worked in twenty twenty two. But when you try to
put him in prison for the rest of his life,
and now when you elevate someone who has never actually
been selected as your nominee to be your nominee invalidating
(09:14):
fourteen million primary votes in the process, really all you
got left is try to say he's Hitler. I mean,
which I'm sure Kamala Harrison team are going to try
to do. And then I think she's gonna say that
you know, Trump is going to show up on your
front porch if your daughter's pregnant and she's fourteen, and
he's gonna arrest her. I mean, that's gonna be the
next day. This is going to try Trump is awful.
And then racism, sexism, abortion, election.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's it. Yes, that's all.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
There's nothing that Kamala Harris can point to as some
kind of legislative victory that she shepherded through the borders
the worst that has ever been, and she was the
borders are well, so we should talk about this. They're
trying to now pretend like well, technically speaking, the Congress
never authorized a borders are It was handed to the
de Vice President very publicly as her PORTFOLI as VP
(10:01):
to handle, and it was a total It's such a
disaster that they now are lying about the fact that
it was aidur So that tells you I think everything.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I don't think that Kamala Harris is a strong politician.
But we have to grapple with the reality that the
Democrat machine is so strong that they again, as I've said,
they made a guy with dementia the president. Yes, a
visible and obvious cognitive decline. Even four years ago, it
was obvious, we were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It was crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So if they can do that, they can do anything.
And so that's why we are not taking it for granted.
I've also been getting those emos too, like you're not
taking her seriously, you know, now we're taking her very seriously.
She's absurd as a politician, but that doesn't mean she
can't win.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I also think it's important to take away in addition
to COVID and the fact that they could bury Biden
in the basement and that reason allow him to get elected.
When they picked Biden, they surveyed the entire field of
Democrat contenders and said, we think Joe Biden is uniquely
(11:02):
positioned for us to be able to ride him weekend
at Bernie style to a victory over Donald Trump. He
was their pick among a field of many other contenders.
That didn't happen with Kamala. They just had to elevate
her because she was the next man or next woman up.
(11:23):
She wouldn't be their hand selected candidate to beat Trump,
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But this is why she's the ultimate EI hunt. Yes,
and there's also I'm just gonna be very there's already
people who have found Biden talking about how she's the
peak of Biden himself saying like she's what you know,
DEI is so important and even at the top of
my administration, look.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
At the DEI.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You know that we've got here with Kamala Harris. So
I don't want to hear any of this. Oh it's racist. No, sorry,
you can't do something. Say it's your policy, and then
we say that's your policy, we're not allowed to talk
about it. That's not gonna work. But on the borders
our thing. Hat tip our friend Sean Davis over at
the Federalist. This is so funny. He shared this out
on x that Axios was saying that that Harris was
(12:05):
never the borders are, and then people found Axios previously
any want to guess writing about Kamala Harris as the
borders are. So now they are going back because, like
I call it, their hand in the cookie jar. Now
they are going back. And this is the editor's note.
This article has been updated and clarified to note that
(12:27):
Axios was among the news outlets that incorrectly labeled Harris
a borders are in twenty twenty one Soviet style rewriting
of history before your eyes. It is not an exaggeration.
They are scrubbing the internet so that you can't see
how much they said Kamala Harris as the borders are
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to elevate her right Dad was, Oh, she's the borders
are she's important, she's so smart, and then it was
a catastrophe and how they're trying to run her.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
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Speaker 3 (14:46):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Bucker and to
be getting some of your calls here shortly, and remember
we got our friend Tommy Laren will be joining Third
Hour to talk about how to bring forward the truth
about Kamala without having it backfire.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
So there we go.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Somebody's got to make a great Kamala documentary, you know
what I mean, Like, where's Denesh. I'm gonna throw up
the Denesh deesuza, you know the bat signal. You know,
we need a document I don't know if we can
do it in whatever is like thirty days here, we
don't have a lot of time. But someone has to
get the truth out about Kamala Harris's record and her
past and everything else because the media is just gonna
(15:21):
I told you, Soviet style rewriting of everything is already underway.
Their news articles are removing their own previous descriptions of
her so that then they can go forward and pretend
that that's not what everybody said she was at the time.
I mean, Clay, that's in Axios is Democrat crap. But
you know that's that's just outrageous. Also, I want to
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one VIP listener, Nancy, she writes, please stop talking about
how pretty Kamala is was. It is insulting to think
men are so simple minded and blinded by her beauty
that they can't see her history and track record. Men
(16:04):
that shallow probably not interested in voting. I won't even
go into how offensive this is to women, and that's
from Nancy. Can I just say I'm I'm I'm an
observer of the world, Nancy. There are plenty of politicians
who I can assure you if they had looked like missus, doubtfire.
This is just the reality of the world we live in.
(16:24):
They would not have become household names. They would not
have been as there. Being an attractive woman is an
enormous asset in all realms of life, including politics. Clay.
I could name some names, but I won't. It's not
just attractive women either. By the way JFK.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Romney's hands, I mean, he's betraying our team. But Mitt
Romney's a handsome guy. That Mett Romney is a very
good looking guy.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
JFK probably huge percentage of the reason he got elected presidental.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Segment Clay and Buck talking about what guys and politics
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Speaker 3 (16:59):
I mean, look, let's be honest.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Glenny Young Kiddy puts on that you know, Fleecevesten, that's
the guy you want coaching your kids basketball team right there,
the square jaw all American.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You're being too kind to Kamala. Is not the email
that I expected that we would get from Nancy. And
by the way, Nancy, just this is my theory in life, which,
by the way, Laura Travis, my wife, also signs on
to Without pretty girls, we would all still be.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Living in caves.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
True, a huge majority of male accomplishment in all facets
of life is about trying to impress pretty girls and
male female attraction and the propagation of the species. It
is the basis of civilization, which is why Democrats try
to destroy it.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
By eliminating gender. Ah ah, very good transition. So I'm sorry, Nancy,
but Kamala Harris is an attractive woman. Hopefully she'll be
an attractive woman who gets her ass kicked by Donald Trump.
But she did get me to admit that Mitt Romney's
a good looking guy. I wasn't expecting you to go
in that direction. I didn't know this closet love affair
that you have for Mett Romney and his incredibly good looks.
(18:06):
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One thing we haven't spend a lot of time on
so far is who is going to be the vice
presidential nominee for Kamala Harris?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And the choice that she would make.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Would, in theory tell you something about her theory of
the election. That is, where can she gain? What can
the VP ad? Right now, Buck, as I am talking
to you in real time, the poly market VP nominees
Mark Kelly is the favorite.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He is the.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Astronaut senator from from Arizona. Second spot, Roy Cooper, he
is the term limited governor of North Carolina. Third spot,
actually just jumped into second spot maybe based on what
you're about to tell us. Josh Shapiro, Democrat, governor of Pennsylvania.
(19:54):
And then you got Mayor Pete the failed Transportation Secretary,
Andy but Year, the governor of Kentucky. Tim Waltz, the
governor of Minnesota. That would be the top five most
likely Ish contenders. And as we were in a commercial break,
you said that there is a tweet out from inside
(20:18):
of one of Trump's campaign directors and it says what.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
This is from Chris la Sevita, who is a political
strategist and a He's at the top of the Trump team.
I mean, he's one of the top guys and a
Pittsburgh guy, so he knows Pennsylvania. His tweet is that
reliable sources confirm Kamala to pick Governor Shapiro from Pennsylvania.
(20:47):
Now there's some there's some open territory here. I I've
that seems like the suggestion is that Joshapiro has has
would accept right. But yeah, Tamala picking him doesn't necessarily
you know, it might be word from inside of the
Kamala campaign that that's who they want, and it has
(21:08):
not yet. I think that's not likely, but I'm just
leaving open that possibility. I think if it's getting out there,
they would keep it close hold enough. But let's just
play this out. It's not fully confirmed yet. I'm sure
CNN and others will have this up, you know, in
a matter of minutes, and we can look and see
whether it's confirmed or denied by the campaign. That's a
strong pick for Kamala Harris. If it goes that way.
(21:31):
I think it also play. While people will say it'll
be a problem for the Michigan let's be honest. The
Michigan Muslim Democrat voters because Joshapiro is Jewish. I wish
that that wasn't a consideration, but apparently the Democrats are
saying it is. But it will also help with Jewish
voters who have voted Democrat in the past, who have
(21:51):
felt like the Bide administration on Israel and Kamala Harris
on Israel has been challenging at best as a or
you know, a week at best as a candidate or
as a presidency for them. You know, Nen Yahoo is
speaking today just in a matter of hours, right or
less than that. I think he's speaking soon in like
(22:12):
thirty minutes. I think thirty minutes. Yeah, I had to
look at the clock. And Biden, well, who's really the president?
Now this feels like a whole other question, like do
you even care if Joe Biden shows up? The guy's
only president for a few more months. By the way,
he shouldn't be president. He should have to resign. But
that's a whole other consideration.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
So to me, the VP analysis, I thought she would
pick Shapiro because there is almost no pathway to Democrats
winning in twenty twenty four without Pennsylvania. The math on Pennsylvania,
given how many electoral votes it brings to bear is
virtually impossible.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So if you pointed to a state right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Now in the battleground states, if you say North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona,
and Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. If you accept those
seven as the battleground, and that's assuming that Democrats can
hold on to Maine, New Hampshire, Virginia, Minnesota, New Mexico,
states that have moved into.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
The periphery of the battleground.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
But the seven I just mentioned the number one must
win for Democrats as Pennsylvania. So to me, I predicted
on Twitter as soon as Kamala got the nomination, I said,
I think she's gonna pick Josh Shapiro.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now the challenge is at what you just hit.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
The Democrat Party has such an anti Semitic part of
its base that in Michigan in particular, where you have
the Jewish vote in the Arab vote, does that maybe
strengthen you and help you win Pennsylvania, But does it
take away Michigan. Remember the map as it's set up
(23:56):
right now, Trump has a lot of ways he can win.
Winning any one of the three Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania,
probably gives Trump the presidency. Does that strengthen you in Pennsylvania,
but we can you in.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Michigan.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's maybe why Mark Kelly in Arizona has been rising
up the board because he's a statewide elected official in Arizona.
Maybe you put Arizona back in play without messing up
some of the Midwest because you're too Jewish. Remember Kabla
also has a Jewish husband, and that might well turn
(24:37):
into a story here too. I just bring it up
because they're protesting Netanyahu the left is while he's in
DC to address Congress.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It'll be interesting, Clay, when you're in Israel coming up here, yes,
to see what the sentiment there is about what the
Biden administration has been like, especially in this particularly trying
time for Israel. I think you're gonna hear a lot
of criticism of where Biden has you know, he's tried
to have it both both ways. He's tried to play
both sides of it. You know, Oh, I support Israel,
(25:06):
but then criticizing Israel for everything they do to try
to root out the the malignant tumor that is Hamas.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Anyway, I think.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
That that's that's a part of what what you're gonna
find over there. I also think that when you talk
about the anti Semitism that is within the Democrat Party,
it's not about policy for a lot of these Democrats.
I'm just gonna say it. You know, the Ilhan Omar
wing of the Democrat Party, there are a lot, they
(25:34):
have a lot of constituents who just are are truly
anti Semitic as and they just don't like Jewish people. Yes,
and that's that's the truth. That's why you saw what
you saw on college campuses. That's why you saw the
harassment and the you know, if it were in a
different context, you'd just say, well, they're racist, but obviously Judaism,
it's a little more complicated than that. It is racist,
(25:57):
but it's also more than that, right, because it's it's
tie back to millennia really of anti semitism, certainly centuries
of anti semitism from all over the world. So I
think I think that Pennsylvania is a smart play for
the Harris team. I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
It makes sense.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's not like they came up with some brilliant strategy.
We'd already talked about this. I don't think it's I'm
not surprised, right that this is the way that they went.
I am a little surprised that Josh Shapiro, Again, this
is not confirmed. So we may come back in the
third hour and tell you, guys, oh, it's actually in
a but a senior Trump admit, a senior Trump campaign
(26:34):
guy saying that reliable sources have told him it's pretty good. Okay,
it's pretty good that this is what's going on, and
we be analyzing this anyway. I must mean that Shapiro
must think she has a real shot. And he's a
smart He's a smart guy. I mean, he understands the game, right,
So he must think Kamala has a change, because you
wouldn't if you're Josh Shapiro, you wouldn't tie yourself to
a no chance ticket. Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
We also should point out that there may be a
little bit of three dimensional four dimensional chess being played
by the Trump team. When Chris la Savita says that
Shapiro's the choice and then we talk about it, I
just retweeted and said, interesting, is he trying to gin
up pressure to make him not the choice from the
(27:20):
anti Jewish wing of the Democrat Party. Remember I'm just saying,
if I'm reading what the Trump team, maybe it'll well
be that Kamala wants to pick him. But if you
think he's a strong choice, but you know there's gonna
be internal opposition to him, do you go negative? Remember
(27:40):
we just saw all this on play out with the
Trump selection. It's not just people advocating for their guy
or their gal. It's also the op research where you say, hey,
I think pick should be X, but you definitely can't
pick why because he said this or he he is
really toxic with this. So when I see that, I
(28:04):
see it as a potential way to influence Kamala's VP
selection through some sort of political jiu jitsu. Does that
make sense to you?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
If you really thought, if you're Trump's campaign manager, director,
whatever it is, and you really thought Josh Shapiro was
the choice and he was a great choice, would you
want to put it out or would you just want
to sit back quietly and wait for them to make
the pick. I don't think it makes Why would it
make a difference.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Because I think as soon as he says it and
it starts to circulate, there's going to be a bunch
of anti Josh Shapiro talk directed at Kamala Harris. I
see you're saying, so he's inviting that, he's inviting the
backlash before it's decided that Jewish voters across America can
see the truth of.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
The Democrat Party. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I actually think it's a smart play potentially by him,
but I'm not sure it's reflective of Shapiro really being
the choice. And if he loved the Shapiro choice, meaning
as a opponent, I think you sit back and you
hold your fire.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
If they were going to pick may Or Pete, I
wouldn't say a word.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
If I were the Trump team, I would be like,
I wanted it to be Mayor Pete.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
But if it's Mayor Pete, I'm like, you know, people
can't even get on their Delta Airlines flights right now.
Everybody who flies Southwest Airlines like I do. We got
stuck a couple of years ago. The whole system collapsed.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
We haven't talked about it, but I bet there's people
listening to us right now who've not been able to
get on their Delta Airlines flights for five days. I mean,
this is one of the all time worst implosions we've
ever seen of an airline, particularly when weather's good. It's
not like we got hit with a massive ice storm
or there's some blizzard that swept across the country. By
(29:54):
and large, the weather's pretty good across the whole country,
and Atlanta Airport looks like a refugee camp right now.
There's people sleeping everywhere, there's no there's no ability to
get cars. So I don't think they'll pick may or Pete.
But if I thought they were, I might even come
on here and say I think it's a brilliant strategic
ploy because you want your enemy to make the worst
(30:16):
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Speaker 2 (30:34):
I don't know how.
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Speaker 3 (32:59):
I was actually thinking about you because Carrie's Carrie's dad
and I were hanging out my father in law and
we were watching you know, he was here for a
couple of days, staying with us, and we were watching
some some Netflix movie with Russell Crowe, who you know.
Russell has been eating a lot of peanut eminems. I
don't know what to say, Like he's gotten They're delectable,
(33:21):
by the way, but look I'm guilty too.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I've been eating too many peena.
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Speaker 2 (33:25):
Be careful, buck.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Nancy is going to be mad if you talk about
someone's physical appearance. She said, we're talking too much. Now
you're taking shots at Russell Crowe. You're praising Kabla. I
just just I don't want Nancy angry.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Russell is a drone operator at the show of the
movie is called Land of Bad. He's a drone operator
and he looks like he's expecting twins. But anyway, uh,
it's just true, and that would make him a democrat
because they they sound like a special operations scene. It's
a very sort of uh you know, Paint by Numbers
action thriller.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I mean it gets a little weird at the end,
but it's fine. I wouldn't recommend it, but Russell Crow's
in it anyway. He keeps going. He's a drone operator
and he's trying to support this mission with the drone
which can fire, how fire missiles, et cetera. And his
boss and everybody else at the drone base or all
watching a Vall's game and like cannot be bothered. They're
(34:16):
all watching the falls.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
And they're like yeah, and he comes in.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
He's kind of like, hey, guys, like I think our
operators are like wounded, and like you know, they're.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Like shut off.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
The Walls are playing and I'm like, I getty, sure
this isn't really how it goes. But people like the
Valls that I do know, so it was pretty funny.
I was like, oh, Clay could be right there with him,
like go get him Valls. So at least I know
who they are. I wouldn't have known even what that was,
you know, three years ago. So thank you for the
education in college sports.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I was actually yesterday tying that in the guy who
had the incredible slide Hunter Insley. I was at a
fundraiser for John Stevens, who's a Tennessee state Senator, and
Hunter Insley, who won the national championship for Tennessee with
a great slide, was there and met my nine year old.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Super nice to him. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I wasn't expecting all that connection, but Crocket Coffee gives
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for the best team in America. John, speaking of which
Buck in Tennessee says that we're not giving Kamala enough credit. John,
what you got for me?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
All right? Guys, First off, Megadittos, I am a long
time attendee of the Advanced School of Conservative Study. All right,
so first off, you're discounting the black vote. So earlier
this year, you guys are talking a lot about how
Trump was going to increase the percentage of black voters.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Now that's clay, this is actually this is the place.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yes, I say, to be fair, I said that I
think Trump will get twenty five percent of the black
mail vote. That was easier against Biden than Kamala. Maybe,
but yes, that's my position.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
All right, think that that's going to be a struggle
because the black males are going to do with black
females telling the duke at least smart ones.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Also, by the way, hold on, let me just say
there are a lot of black men right now saying,
excuse me, you just told me that I'm going to
do exactly what black women tell me. I actually think
there's a lot of black men that want to do
the opposite of what they're being told by black women
to do.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
That's my thesis part of this.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
But continue, Okay, that's coming from from a man who's
been married for twenty seven years.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Let's be doing what your wife tells you to do
is different than what I think.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
That's what anybody else I think that's what he meant. Yeah, oh,
we got ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That's from yesterday.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
All men are influenced by attractive women.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Oh we agree.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I agree they are attractive women.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh, John, why didn't say more? Maybe we got more
for the third hour.
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