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July 25, 2024 18 mins

In this episode, Lisa discusses the attempted assassination of  Donald Trump, highlighting significant security failures by the Secret Service and the resignation of its director, Kimberly Cheatle. Senator Ron Johnson joins to critique the Biden administration's handling of Secret Service protection, suggesting a focus on diversity over competence. Johnson raises concerns about the potential political motivations behind the security lapses and the lack of transparency regarding the shooter. The episode also explores the political implications of Kamala Harris potentially running against Trump in the upcoming presidential election, with Johnson expressing skepticism about her appeal. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, we are coming up on almost two weeks of
the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, and we
still have more questions than answers. We still don't know
a whole lot about the shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Why is that? Why were there.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
So many security failures from the Secret Service? We at
least have seen, I mean, not really accountability, but we've seen.
Kimberly Cheatle, the Secret Service director, has now resigned in
disgrace after a disastrous hearing where she got bombarded by
questions by both sides of the aisle. Didn't have any
answers though, despite having been days after the assassination attempt,

(00:39):
didn't have any answers to provide. The committee shaking timelines
didn't give concrete answers you think she would have come
or prepared. I'll also mind you, as we do, note
that there was some bipartisan ship. Even AOC went after
Kimberly Cheadle expressed her dismay at the way the Secret
Service has handled this and her criticisms towards Cheatah as well.

(01:00):
I'll just remind you that Democrats not too long ago,
including Benny Thompson, who is the ranking Democrat on the
House Homeland Security Committee. They had introduced legislation to strip
Donald Trump of his Secret Service protection.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
So just remember that they did that.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
As you know, we talk about this bipartisanship going after
Kimberly Cheatle, But why.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Don't we have answers?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
And we're at this time right now where you know,
a lot of the country we're asking themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I mean, was it intentional?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Did they let this happen? Or is the government just
that incompetent. Either scenario is not good for the country.
So we're going to have Senator Ron Johnson on the show,
who has been trying to get answers. He's been investigating,
so we'll talk to him about what he's uncovered, what
he thinks happened.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Also, he is.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
The Senator of Wisconsin, a battleground state, incredibly important state
for the presidential election. We're going to talk to him
about Joe Biden stepping down and how does he think
Kamala Harris will do in Wisconsin. So we'll get his
take on both those issues. Stay tuned for said to
Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, Senator Johnson, I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Coming on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I always love having you. You know, you're a truth teller,
so I always know that you know we're going to
get the truth from you. So I just really appreciate
you making the time today, sir.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Happy to appreciate the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I wanted to get your reaction first to cheatle stepping
down resigning.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Why wasn't she fired?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
And what does it say about the Biden White House
that she wasn't fired.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
What I would guess is didn't want to fire because
she did exactly what the White House wanted her to do.
You know, really what the White House is expecting of
all of its secretary's, a department and agency heads that
they're more concerned about DEI equity, you know, hiring more
people that fit their definition of equity than actually hiring

(02:52):
highly qualified individuals to carry out the mission of their
departments and agencies. So it sounds like that's exactly what
she did with the Secret Service, So she was They
were very satisfied what she did. I mean she should have.
I mean, anybody with integrity would have resigned immediately following
that debacle that you know, monumental security failure. But I

(03:14):
guess it just took a humiliating hearing before she decided
to step down.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, I mean, you've got to give her credit.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
She actually united both parties for the first time since
you know, I don't know when, but it you know,
it took an attempted.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Sassination to get there.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
So we're in this place as a country right now
where Americans are not sure if the Secret Service in
the government is so incompetent that it got out smarted
by a twenty year old or if the government allowed
this to happen. You know, what do you make of
that and sort of what does that say about our
country right now?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Well, I guess that is the sixty four thousand dollars question.
I mean, as I look at this, and I've got
my investigators continuing to conduct phone interviews with primarily local
law enforcement, they're willing to talk to us. But just
about everything you would assume the Secret Service would do
to establish security protect a former president and a presidential candidate,

(04:11):
they didn't do. I mean, they didn't show up at
the morning meeting where everybody kind of decides what the
roles are going to be. They didn't have common communication
channels that they you know, everybody was on separate channels
having to report in through a communications center from a
Butler County that relayed to each other, and this obviously

(04:35):
caused a great number of delays, you know, Corey to
Iron investigators, the Secret Service wasn't even going to send
sniper teams. They decided that the very late, a day
or two before the actual event. Again, there's security failure
after security failure here.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know, and this comes after, you know, there was
a leak that the threat from Iran free that you know,
there was an incredible threat of you know, desiring to
assassinate Donald Trump. So this allegedly came after, you know,
beefed up security after that threat. You know, what do
you make of the timing of that league do you
trust that information? And then secondly, if this is the

(05:15):
beefed up security, what was it like before?

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Well, the person who really pressed Cheatle about that was
House Intel Chair Turner, Who's got more information that I've
had access to. And so these threats apparently from Iran
are legitimate, that they're valid, they should.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Have concerned the Secret Service.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
But remember the Biden administration, may Orcus Cheatle, they also
have denied Secret Service protection to Bobby Kennedy a man
whose father and uncle were assassinated. One is president was
his presidential candidate, a man now running for president himself,
who he's already experienced a couple of pretty serious security breaches,

(05:58):
threats to him personally, and yet by administration there's no
explanation for it. This is a scandal in and of itself.
Continue to deny, you know, Bobby Kennedy Sect Service protection
as well. So obviously the Biden administration Secretary Mori Arcas,
DHS and the Secret Service are playing politics Parson politics.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
With science Service protection. It's it's pretty sick. It's a scandal.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Is there a world where these security lapses were intentional?

Speaker 4 (06:27):
I mean, I just don't know. Like I said, that's
the sixty four thousand dollars question. I would hope one
of the first if and I hope that President Trump
gets elected, I would hope the first day in office
he does what Secretary Pompeio talked him out of doing,
which is release all the government information on the JFK assassination.

(06:48):
You know, I was never a JFK assassination of a
person that you know, really got into that in detail,
but I did read quite honestly on the recommendation of
Bobby Kennedy a book called FK and the Unspeakables, and
that is, you know, it's a more recent book written
by a pretty leftist individual, a liberal, but it's really

(07:10):
an accumulation of all the information that has come to
light over this over the decades, and it's pretty eye opening.
What I think you can say without dispute is that,
for example, the Warren Commission was not established to determine
the exact truth it was. If anything, it was set
up to hide the truth and it's been hidden from

(07:30):
American public for sixty or seventy years now. So again,
that's what the government did back in nineteen sixty three.
I have my own evidence of how corrupt the FBI
investigation was of the Russian Russian collusion hoax, how corrupt
the media was in covering up for the FBI and

(07:51):
pushing the same false narrative. So I mean, I have
my own first hand experience of corruption and cover up
with the federal government just in recent years. So I mean,
is it possible. I certainly don't discount the possibility.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know, what have you learned about the shooter so far?
Thomas Matthew Crooks.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Very little about the shooter.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
You know that there are reports online and again you've
got people with access to information. That's by the way,
that's one of the things we have going for us.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
In the age of the Internet, Uh, the information age,
people just have access to a whole lot more information,
not just government sources. I mean we the people have
access to more information and people are just you know,
piecing this puzzle together.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
So there's all kinds of information on the crooks out there,
and that's why we need to do an independent investigation
because I don't think the FBI is going to allow
this stuff to come to light. So it's going to
need to be we the people using the internet, use
using public sources, using the videos of the public that

(08:57):
were at the rally providing those things to us. We're
not in an area in like we were in nineteen
sixty three where there is one's a Breweder film. There
are hundreds of videos of this, and you've got an
Internet and people have access to the same sites and
against being reported to what this guy was up to. Now, Unfortunately,

(09:18):
the FBI has has a possession of his of his phone,
and they're not going to give that information up not readily,
which is one of the reasons I sent a preservation
of records demand to the FBI, the Secret Service, Department
of Justice the day after the shooting. I wanted to
put them out. They already should be unnoticed that they

(09:39):
can't destroy evidence. But this is just, you know, further
confirmation that now you've got a US senator saying you
must retain all of this evidence. Again, I guess I'm
not holding my breath that they're going to one of
those that you know they're going to buy by the law.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
They better.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
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(11:03):
You know, does the fact that we don't know more
about the shooter race questions in and of itself. I mean,
it strikes me as odd that we don't know more
at this point.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, I mean they with held information on other mass shooters.
If they would not withhold information if somebody was part
of Mega by Boy, if a shooter is part of
the radical left movements, they're going to withhold that, And
so I guess I don't find that surprising at all.
It's again, it's it's just unfortunately we cannot trust our
federal law enforcement officials. We just can't trust them, you

(11:35):
know what.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Before we move on to the politics and what's happening
with Joe Biden. You know, what questions are you seeking
right now regarding the assassination attempt?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
What do you hope to learn in the coming days.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
And just the basic things.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I mean, it was it was driving me nuts listening
to the House hearing yesterday when now a former director
Chidah would say, it's only been nine days, and every
time she would stay, I would go, no, it's been
nine days. How can you not know these things? Okay,
so again she knows these things, she just wasn't willing
to be honest and truthful with the American public. But

(12:11):
I mean, the most basic question I have, which I
haven't gotten answer to, is when did the Secret Service
sniper who took out crooks? When did that Secret Service
sniper have crooks in the crosshairs.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
In his sights? You know, at what point?

Speaker 4 (12:29):
And did that sniper, that Secret Service sniper did did
he call that in to the Secret Service asking permission
to take out the threat? If he did call it in,
was the threat was at the permission denied? I mean,
I just don't know, or did the shots get fired
in that Secret Service sniper able to acquire the target

(12:49):
and take him out that rapidly.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Again, I think the.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Total span of shots being fired is under sixteen seconds. Again,
I know these snipers are good. I mean, can you
hear a noise, acquire the target and take it out
that that rapidly. That's pretty pretty skillful if that's possible.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I want to get you on.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
You know, we have a president who's been you know,
essentially missing in action after stepping down or at least
saying he's not going to run for re election via
x after telling the public that he was not getting
out after you know, party insiders on the left strong
armed him into doing so. And now it looks like
it's going to be Kamala Harris that Donald Trump is

(13:33):
going to face. It's pretty ironic from the threats to
democracy people to you know, strong arm their candidate out
of office outside of the hands of you know, their voters.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
So what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
And then also, you know, what do you think a
race against Kamala Harris looks like for Donald Trump?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
First of all, Democrats don't believe in democracy. They believe in.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Power, and they'll do just about anything to obtain and
maintain That's that's what their whole party is all about.
So this is obviously not a democratic process. I mean,
the way President Biden or his staff announced his decision
is beyond bizarre. I mean, it is beyond bizarre. And

(14:17):
it's beyond bizarre that the mainstream media pretty well just
accepted it, you know, it didn't didn't say, well, we'll
hang on here. This is a you know, momentous decision.
This is an extraordinary announcement. Uh yeah, I'm old enough
to remember President Johnson going before the American public in

(14:37):
an Oval Office address to announce that he was no
longer would no longer seek or accept the the presidential
nomination the Democrat Party. I mean, he went to the
Oval Office, a nationwide address. This was done on like
non White House stationary, apparently with what appears to be
an auto pen signature Joe Biden. And we haven't seen
him now since since apparently last Wednesday. Again, this is

(15:00):
beyond bizarre. But in the mainstream meding, I've been predicting this,
by the way, I never thought I mean, going back
to last summer, I was asked, I've been saying I
just did not believe Joe Biden would be their nominee.
Now he's no longer their nominee. But I also been
predicting that whoever replaced him would be set up on
a pedestal. The mainstream media would be basically announcing the

(15:22):
new Messiah. And you know that's exactly what they're doing
with Kamala Harris. I mean, the fact that she was
able to raise eighty one million dollars in the first day.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, obviously the fix was in there.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
There's nothing democrat about this democratic about this process at all.
This is about all about the Democrat Party realizing they
must do this to maintain power.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
That's all they care about. This want power.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Before we go, how does Kamala Harris do in Wisconsin? Obviously,
you're stated Wisconsin, where your senator, where you've been senator is,
you know, one of the most important battleground states in
the country. The election and might come down to the
state of Wisconsin. So how does Kamala Harris do in
your home state of Wisconsin?

Speaker 4 (16:06):
I hope not. Well, you know, she's been in Wisconsin.
The only thing she's really talked about is what she
refers to as reproductive rights. We'll have to continue to
point out of a mainstream media won't cover this, is
that the extreme position on abortion is what Kamala Harris holds,
which is unrestricted abortion up to the moment of birth.
That's in fact what she is pushing. That's what they're

(16:28):
fighting for. Unrestrict your abortion up to the moment of birth.
That is abhorrent, Okay, but that's the Democrat party position.
So I hope that doesn't sell in Wisconsin if the
truth is actually revealed.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I was feeling really positive about this election, and now
obviously Democrats have shown us the links they're willing to
go to win. What does your gut tell you about
where this presidential election stands today and where the Senate
stands the Senate map in terms of Republicans regaining the majority.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
But I hope somebody early polls are correct showing big
leads of Trump over Kamala Harris. But again, I'm fully
aware of the awesome power of the mainstream media to
cover up to, you know, create a whole new narrative.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
You know, I've never.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Heard about this the Brat summer, by the way, we've
pronounced bratt brot and we eat them. But anyway, so
so again, do not underestimate how incredibly effective the mainstream
media will be at putting her on a pedestal claiming
her to be the new Messiah.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
The savior of our nation.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
And that will be that will be powerful, and I
hope the Trump campaign is as well prepared for it.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I hope so too.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Senator Ron Johnson, it's always an honored to have you
on the show. I look forward to hopefully having you
back here in the coming weeks and months as we
head into election day. But appreciate the work we're doing,
and I certainly appreciate your time.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Thanks for having on Stray Well.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
That was Senator Ron Johnson. I always love having him
as a guest. I appreciate him making the appreciate you
guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but
you can listen throughout the week. I want to thank
John Cassio and my producer for putting the show together.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Until next time,

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