July 28, 2024 • 56 mins
Biden drops out, leading to a brand new Presidential race. Dems try to say Trump is backpedaling from debates. Biden’s no Washington.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is twenty four a weekly highlight reel from the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Joe Biden is out. You may applaud for mister Clay Travis.
You may applaud he is the winner of a stake,
a very expensive, overpriced We'll get into those details later.
We actually have so much news that we can extend
Clay's gloating over the course of the program because we
have a bunch of things that we have to get
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to today. Secret Service Director up on Capitol Hill a
total mess, not actually giving any answers. We have so
much here, but just to put all this into the
proper context, we had a presidential In terms of the
news this month, how much news there is usually the
summer for political news is pretty minimal, right. You know,
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a lot of people DC's ago in August, even an
election year, it tends to settle down a little bit.
They have the conventions, nobody really cares the remembers, and
then you get into the big stuff in the fall.
This month has been crazy. We had a presidential assassination
attempt against President Trump or a presidential candidate assassination attempt.
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He was hit. I keep reminding people say, wow, they
almost shot President Trump. No, they shot him, he just
was okay. So that was not this most recent weekend.
The weekend before. Then, on this weekend, after weeks and
weeks of Joe Biden his team saying he's staying in,
(01:40):
He's staying in, suddenly a tweet comes out on x
Elon Musk's platform, a private platform. Mind you, isn't this
so interesting? It's almost like a Facebook post was the
way we found out about this. Joe Biden has dropped out,
has officially endorsed Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And we'll get into all of of the machinations around this.
And there's so much here, and I know everyone's all
very fired up, and I'm sorry for the residents of
Buck Island. We did get hit by a last second
tsunami and there are no structures left standing, and in fact,
we are now a wreckage like a scuba site only
so you can go visit us underwater.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes, I've always thought Atlantis, We're the new Atlantis. Yes,
Clai Clay's gonna be grinning a lot today. And you
know what earned it. We've been talking about this for
two years. There's been some evolution here as to what
we thought would happen, respectively, what Clay thought, what I thought.
This year, I've been saying, if it's not Biden, it
will be Harris. But I've always thought, and I will
stick to this, that Biden would manage to push this
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all the way through. The debate was completely disastrous for him,
more disastrous than I thought it would be, so I
didn't have that data point to work with, but I
figured they're still gonna They're still gonna be able to
rally around him enough that they he's their best choice. Clay,
we got a million things to dive into here. The
big thing, obviously Biden out. All eyes turned to Kamala.
(03:06):
Fifty million dollars of small donation, small dollar donors raised
in one day, they say, the biggest day of fundraising,
you know, in years for Kamala Harris. All the editorials now,
the shaping of the narrative, I mean, they're right in this.
They're bringing in the interns to write these editorials. They're
just trying to churn out as much nonsense as they can.
(03:26):
Here's where I am on this Clay. This is terrible
for the Democrats what's going on right now.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm not saying that they can't pull something off, and
there's crazy last minute possibilities, but I do not see
a world in which Kamala Harris, one of the most
untalented politicians, a DEI vice president, is able to go
up against not just a strong Republican but Donald Trump
with the biggest wind at his back and the most
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fire in the belly we have ever seen. I think
that the Demo and this is why I didn't see
this coming. I think it's it's worse than a crime,
it's a blunder. I think what they have done is madness,
and it's because they've panicked and they went to war
with each other, and the plan was to lie the
whole time, and they got caught in the lie. What
(04:16):
do you see?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I think there are two big questions that are out
there that will determine a lot of where we're going
from this point. Number one to what extent, if at all,
will this be contested. Right now, it looks like Kamala
Harris is basically going to get the nomination without think
(04:37):
about this buck without one person ever having voted for
her to be president. In her entire political career, We've
never seen anything like this. I mean, that is truly extraordinary.
Remember she dropped out in twenty twenty before the voting started.
Democrats overwhelmingly rejected her in the twenty twenty race, and
now she's going to get the nomination without ever having
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had to run for it. And let me ask you,
this is so my first question is gonna be contested.
I bet we agree on this. Do you think if
Biden had dropped out before the primaries and Kamala had run,
do you think she would have won an open primary
as the Democrat nominee? I do not. Do you think
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Kamala wins this nomination?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
And this is the It's almost like the super delegates
that remember they rig the system for Hillary over Bernie
in twenty sixteen. This is, in essence a Democrat machine,
like a super delegate election. They're just deciding that this
is who the person will be. I know they're going
to say, oh, well, at the convention, the delegates will
(05:44):
have to Yeah, but they had a whole prime They
just threw out fourteen million votes for Joe Biden. Okay, yes,
they just said those these are the word defending democracy.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
People.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
They just said the fourteen million votes that Joe Biden
had and all the stuff we said about Joe Biden's fine,
he's going to have a grade four more years and everything.
They have wiped that away. They've pretended like it never happened.
And the other part of this, there's so many layers here, Clay,
Joe Biden is not fit to be president right now.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
If he's not well, that's my second question. That's okay,
it will will it be contested? Second one is, and
the gambling markets basically have it right now, and they've
been very predictive in terms of you and me and
everybody else being able to bet. They have it at
fifty to fifty. Whether he's going to finish his term,
and my question on whether he finishes his term obviously
he could die, right and I hate to say that,
(06:35):
but he put out this statement on X. It's super weird.
We haven't seen him. Kamala Harris just showed up at
the White House. I know supposedly he's got COVID, but
that's basically a cold. You're telling me. They couldn't wheel
in a camera, They couldn't bring in an ability to
take a video of all this for historical purpose. Very strange.
(06:55):
And that's why let's presume that he doesn't die, which
I can't believe. We have to say that that is,
he doesn't just die because of the he's got different
complicat Yeah. Second, the second question here is, and I
don't know the answer to this, does it help or
hurt Kamala to run as the incumbent? And I don't
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cause I can see it cutting both ways, by which
I mean, on the one hand, it makes it look
like even more of a rig job. If she's elevated,
becomes the first woman, first minority woman to be president,
and gets to run as the incumbent, it feels like
a rig job on the other hand, which might cut
against her. On the other hand, then she's the incumbent
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and it gives her more of a stamp of authority
over the next several months. I'm curious how you would
see this purely from a political perspective. Does she benefit
running as the incumbent?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I think that they want to give the illusion because
Democrats it's so central to their sense of their party.
They're like, we're we're all about defending democracy. They want
to give the illusion that Kamala is a choice, but
Kamala's foisted on them. Kamala is a is. The pick
is the decision of the machine. She is not the
person that the Democrats, the Democrat voter at any meaningful level,
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has decided should be the nominee. So I think that
it's it should be untenable for Biden to stay in
office as he is. He should have to resign and
Kamala Harris should take over as the president, and that
would make the most sense. I also think that would
I think that would benefit her in the long run,
because the fact that Biden isn't resigning and is staying
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in office while he clearly does not have the mental
faculties to continue to do the job, to me, is
a in essence, an insult at Kamala Harris too. Write
you said you picked this person because she's ready to
take over. You clearly have You are clearly Joe Biden
not at your best. He has admitted that you are
not game Joe Biden, whatever that used to mean. So
(09:02):
you're not gonna let Kamala Harris take over in the situation,
You're gonna ride it out to the end, I mean,
just pardon Hunter and get it over with, right, I mean, like,
what are we really talking about here. He's not gonna
sign any real legislation. He just wants to stay in
the game longer, and I think try to negotiate more stuff,
more goodies for the Bidens on his way out. I
am really curious and I feel very strongly about this
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part of the Clay Biden didn't want to go, and
Biden wasn't going all right. Yes, they forced him. They
straight up they made him an offer he can't refuse.
And this isn't the first time. This was the third
all out media push New York Times, everybody, He's got
to go. He's got to go. He's got to go.
The first two after the disastrous debate, Biden says, I'm staying.
(09:49):
Deal with it. I'm the nominee. I won deal with it.
I'm the president. That this is not the plan, Okay,
the plan is not to drag this out because time
is not on the side of Biden, of Kamala and
the Democrats right now. I mean they're scrambling to figure
out what happens next. They did something, they presented it
(10:09):
with something. I mean, I know they're gonna say, oh,
it was just the polls now, because I still believe Biden.
If you really look at the data, Biden's a better
candidate than Kamala against Donald Trump. And I know that
sounds insane, but that's clearly what Biden believed up until
five minutes ago. And I think that Donald Trump, if
we have an election that is vaguely free and fair,
(10:31):
there's just no way that Kamala Harris wins this election.
I think they've almost seeded this whole thing. Now they're
gonna try to cheat, They're gonna kick and scream, they
gonna have a lot of money to our media. I know
all of that, but really, Kamala Harris wins in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada. George,
absolutely not. There's no way she wins in those states
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based on the numbers that we already see for Trumps.
It's just not feasible unless they cheat beyond our wildness imagination.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
My theory boy is, and I agree with you. I
think this is desperation, But I do think that the Biden.
I mean, when you watched him on Friday, the last
time we saw him try to walk the stairs and
even try to get into the presidential limo. I mean,
he legitimately looks like with every step that he was
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taking that he might die between the steps. And I
hate to say that, I'm anti death. I don't want
anybody to die. I don't feel confident that he's going
to be alive on inauguration day. I mean, I can't
believe that I'm saying that, but based on the trajectory
that we are seeing of him, I don't know that
he's got six months left to live.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, there's some there's some stories out there already that
like Biden was personal friends with his doctor, with his
official doctor, and that the doctor trying to look this
up right now, that there was maybe some business day
(12:00):
that the doctor was going to be involved with the
Biden I mean, there's there's a lot of dirty stuff
going on here. Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So my theory is buck that they may have gone
to him and said, hey, we've got twenty fifth Amendment
possibilities here. You can either go out and I'm sure
they'll give the Biden family a couple one hundred million
dollars for their foundation, right for their presidential library. And
I'm doing quotation marks on those because in many ways
(12:29):
that's just a grift, right, the Biden family gets those jobs.
Hunter is some executive of the Biden Foundation, Jill is
some executive of the Biden Foundation, and they make seven
figure salaries to host dinners and you know, raise money
and do all those things. I think they threatened him.
It does. None of this makes sense that you would
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put a letter on your personal letter head up on
your social accounts, which we know you don't run, and
then that you would have another post where you say
that Kamala Harris has your complete support. I mean, this
would not suffice as proof of life in a hostage video,
Like I feel like we need the president holding up
(13:12):
today's copy of the newspaper to verify that he's still
alive and well, and then to have Kamala Harris today
at the White House again. I know he supposedly has COVID,
but you and I would walk into Biden's beach house
for an exclusive interview right now with zero fear of
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potentially catching COVID from him, in the same way that
I wouldn't be afraid of interviewing anybody who had a cold, right, Like,
It's not like he's got I don't. I don't even
know what the illness would have to be that you
would be terrified to be in the same room with him.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Also, the whole way that this went down, that there
was no video, there were Biden's staffers who have come
out publicly and said that they didn't know.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, most of them said they found out from the posting.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
With which I mean, you've got to be kicked cause
there were Biden staffers. This is why for a moment
there there was a rebound in Buck Island land prices
before the tsunami took us all out. They were saying
on Friday, Biden is the nominee. He's staying in focused.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
They went on the Sunday morning talk shows and said
he was one hundred percent on it all in a
couple of hours before they kicked him out.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
This is what I'm saying. It was not the plan. Okay,
they got to him. They got to him. How did
they get to him? Finally, they've been trying to get
to him for a month more than that. Well whatever
the you know, the weeks when you add them up,
would be Ever since the debate, they've certainly been pushing
to get him out entirely, and it hadn't worked until now.
(14:50):
If he was just gonna go and this was like
the Democrats pulling all the strings, he would have gone
right after the debate. In fact, they wouldn't have even
gotten to the debate. If this was the plan, they
would have had Kamala's the nominee and the wouldn't have
even running Biden. This whole thing makes no sense. They
screwed up royally. Everyone needs to stop assuming that the
Democrats have some genius playing and this is eight D
chess and they're playing it out. That is not what happened. Okay,
(15:13):
they if they were really smart, they would have just
refused to debate, which I thought they would, and they
should have. They should have taken my advice, so to speak,
or in a sense, Clay, they should have refused to
have Biden debate until least the fall, because then he
would have been the nominee. You know, they would have said.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
June whenever the real story of this campaign is written,
and I mean the real story, not the bs that
they're all putting out there. Hopefully Trump smokes Kamala and
at some point next year all of these real stories
start being You need a bitter Democrat.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Democrats correct, because they'll come out and tell you the truth.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's right. You need a beat down because then everybody
will just come out and do the whole story like
they do a lot of times with campaigns. None of
it adds up. Even the decision for June twenty seventh
didn't add up in the first places. We talked about
why have that bait.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Then you're listening to twenty four the year of impact
with Clay.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And Buck.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Feels a bit like the presidential election has just finally
started because we have a new Democrat candidate. This is
not official official, but the delegates have switched. I thought
if it wasn't going to be Joe, it would have
to be Kamala. And now that is where we are.
No one's even talking about any other options for the
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time being for the Democrats. So we're assuming for now
that Democrats actually have a candidate for president that they
will stick with. And it is it's fastening to see it.
It's almost like you're watching a few Soviet armored brigades,
just just this mass of communist machinery that was all
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going in one direction. Now like a flock of birds.
They've all switched it. Now they're all going in another direction.
It wasn't long ago that Kamala Harris was considered a
drag on the Joe Biden ticket, that Kamala Harris might
have to be replaced so that Joe could run because
she was so unlikable, incompetent, uninspiring, cringe inducing. And now
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it is the greatest magic trick that Democrat media has
ever pulled. Now they all turn around and say.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Kamala Harris is amazing, Kamala Harris, this is the politician
we've been waiting for. We knew they would do it,
so it's not a surprise at all. I want everyone
to be very clear, Clay and I we all knew
that this is exactly what was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
They'll do anything for power. But it is a remarkable moment.
It is astonishing because you could go back and they'll
probably start scrubbing them from Google. But you could go
back a year, year and a half and they were
talking about what a disappointment to Biden Kamala was, how
poorly she did, and the whole borders are role. Now
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they're saying she never was. Formerly the borders are there
was no borders. Are they wipe away the past with
a wave of the hand. It's amazing to see Clay,
this is now yesterday. I want to make sure we
were checking assumptions. Kama's a horrible politician, but that doesn't
mean she can't win. That's really where I am on this.
Kamala is an unimpressive person in every respect, but that
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doesn't mean the Democrats won't find some way. Please stop
sending the emails about how they're going to cheat. I
know the Democrats are evil and we'll do things that
are illegal if they can.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Get away with it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Okay, I don't need reminders.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We know, we know.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't know. I just want to have like a
can we just like have a little sound we play
in the background. It's like, we know they cheat, we don't.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Always trying to have to be careful with that because
I get those two. If that's all you focus on,
then you're basically why vote this is near you are?
You are nighilistically destroying any competition when you say, but
they're going to cheat. Yeah, that's why I think Trump
has actually addressed it. Too big to rig That means
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that you have to take it in sports terms, out
of the officials' hands. You have to create a victory
that is impossible. You have to make Virginia competitive, New Hampshire, Maine,
all these other states so that it doesn't come down
to just a few votes in a few states.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And I'll say this if it is a situation where
they let's just say, theoretically we won every swing state,
but then they did something and we couldn't. We didn't
catch it red handed, we can't prove it in any
court of the of law across Well, then we deserve
to lose because the GOP is so incompetent and we're
in a one party state. We might as well admit that, right,
(19:46):
So you know, let's not just do that. They're gonna change.
I know, we know we've gone over this a million times.
Let's look at what they're gonna do with Kamala as
the nominee and figure out how Trump can run up
the scoreboard so much that it makes it if effectively
impossible for any Shenanigans to become involved. Okay, but I
just after yesterday, everyone's saying, well, Kamala is terrible, she
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can't win, but they'll cheat, and I want to say, well,
if they cheat and they win, guess what, Kamala's president. Okay,
if they cheat and they win, she gets to call
the shots for four years. So just yelling they cheat
doesn't actually help us. Let's look at what the policies
of this administration are going, or the Kama administration would be,
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and let's convince our fellow Americans to come out in
such huge numbers that we beat the cheat or any cheat,
that we beat any shenanigans, we beat anything that they do.
It is possible, my friends, Okay, it is possible to
do this. It is possible. I think Donald Trump is
going to win this election. So let's stay focused. Sorry, Clay,
it's got a little fire off about that because I
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think I've got a thousand thousand messages yesterday about this.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I think that's super important. And we've been saying on
this show for a long time. If your position is well,
they're going to cheat, then basically what you devolved to
is nothing matters. Okay, So look, we talked with the
head of the R and C who is putting in place.
He told you what to do if you are worried
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about cheating. Crew in New York can you pull up
the website address that he gave everyone instead of emailing
us that they're gonna cheat. Here is my suggestion to you.
If you are desperately afraid of that, volunteer your time
and be a monitor in your state. He asked, He said,
what did he say? I think he wanted one hundred
thousand thousand volunteers? Yes, yes, one hundred thousand. Instead of
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whining to us about something that you are concerned about,
how about taking individual initiative yourself, going to the website
and we'll get it for you again. But you can
go listen to him on Thursday, because we directly asked
him about this, and he said on these airwaves we
want one hundred thousand volunteers. So I appreciate emails, but
(21:58):
emails aren't volunteering, right, Actually, put your money where your
mouth is and your time. Go put the effort in.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Because we have to do everything we can to get
as many votes for Trump as many lawful and truthful
and honest votes for Trump as we possibly can to
defeat Kamala Harris. And there's action to prevent cheating or
to catch cheating. Great whining about previous cheating. It just
doesn't help. We're all aware, I promise you we're all
aware of all the things that have happened. Okay, and
(22:26):
we've talked about it tons, but that was four years ago.
We have an election to win now, and that's why
we're going to focus on Kamala Harris. That's also why
we had the RNC chairman on last week to talk
about he's aware too of the games Democrats playing. Look,
sometimes they were in a little bit of a gray area.
Sometimes they were abusing state law, but the state courts
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wouldn't actually enforce what the laws on the books were
when it came to voting. Like, there's a whole slew
of things that went down. If we're going to try
to beat Kamala Harris with Donald Trump by you know,
ten thousand votes in Georgia and thirteen thousand votes it's
in Arizona, I forget what the vote totals were. But
if we're going to leave it to that, yeah, then
we're in big trouble. If Donald Trump is gonna win
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every single swing state and steal a few blue states
from Democrats in the process, guess what we win. Okay,
it can happen. It will happen if we stay focused.
So I want everyone to just be mobilized and motivated
in this same vein. Now, with all of that said,
Kamala Harris is the most far left wing senator we
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have faced in a presidential race since Obama. And in
some ways you could say maybe Ever. I think Ever
is probably the right designation because Bernie Sanders never made
it onto a presidential ticket, he never actually was the nominee.
So Kamala Harris is the most far left wing senator
I think Clay we've had candidate we've had. And here's
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what I see. That was fantastic. Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania.
His team put this out. Now, this is to tie
Bob Casey, Senator Casey and Clays, and it's so annoying.
In all these tough states, it's the same game from
Democrats all the time. When it comes time for votes,
they're not really Democrats, they're something else.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Of course, I'm a maverick. I go my own way.
And then for four years or six years or two years,
you know, whatever they all they do is go along
with Pelosi. All they do is go along with Schumer
on everything all the time. It's pathetic, it's dishonest. But
this is the only Democrats can win elections. That's what
Bob Casey's trying to pull here.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh you know, I'm about Schumer's lack.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, I think for myself. Yeah. Sure, McCormick's team nailed
this in Pennsylvania. This is about Kamala Harris. It starts
with Senator Casey, but then it goes into Kamala. Listen
to this one play for.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Kamala Harris is inspiring and very capable. The more people
get to know her, they're going to be particularly impressed
by her ability.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
A non partisan GUV Track has rated you as the
most liberal senator.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to
pass a new deal. There's no question I'm in favor
of banning TRACK.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Would you ban optional drilling?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (25:04):
What is the solution for voters in the fossil fuel industry?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Giving the workers an ability to transition. We're not going
to treat people who are undocumented across the borders criminals.
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Raise your head if you think it should be a
civil effects rather than a crime across the border without documentation.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Abolish ice, Yeah, is that a position you agree with,
and we need to probably think about starting from scratch outdated.
It is wrong headed thinking to think that the only
way you're going to get communities to be safe is
to put more police officers.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
On the street.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Like, do you support changing the dietary guidance?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, you know the food parent What for people he
has to reduce red meat specifically, yes.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
People who are convicted in prison, like the Boston Marathon,
bombers on death row, people who are convicted of sexual assault, they.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Should be able to vote.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I think we should have that conversation. We have to
have a buyback program, and I support a mandatory buyback program.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So for people out there who like their insurance, they
don't get to keep it.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on. I'm opposed
to any policy that would denying any human being public
health period.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
The more people get to know her, they're going to
be particularly impressed by her ability.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
First of all, I love the cackle because it's unsettling.
I'm sorry, it's unsettling, and you could say that that's
not fair. That's just how she laughs, but it just
sort of it's not a clay. The policy she lays
down here, don't put more cops on the street. That
won't make people safer. Give free healthcare to illegals. All
ten million that have come in under Biden, for example,
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plus the millions were already here. Ban fracking. I don't
even think she knows more than half of our oil
comes from fracking procedures right in our processes right now.
She's a lunatic. I mean, her policies are insane.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
She hasn't been vetted. And this is to me where
Republicans really have an opportunity to go after her. She
dodged scrutiny. I think it was a three part reason
why she scrutiny. One, the twenty twenty election was really
about Trump. They hid Biden in his basement and they
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tried to convince you that Trump was Hitler and you
were all going to die of COVID. That's what they did.
And the Biden was Grandpa Joe, and he would solve everything,
and he would make America normal again and obviously bring
decency to the country, put the adults back in charge.
That has failed. Then also COVID, there was such an
omnipresent story of COVID. And then fear of BLM as
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a result. Remember, Kamala Harris was uniformly rejected by Democrat
voters in the twenty twenty primary. If they had had
a primary in twenty twenty four, if Joe Biden had
done what he should have done and announced sometime in
the summer ish of twenty twenty three that he wasn't
going to run for reelection, there would have been a
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robust Democrat primary, and buck I think there's almost no
chance that Kamala Harris would have been the nominee. Democrats
would not have picked her. Now they are trying to
gaslight you and make you convinced, oh, hey, she's an
amazing candidate. She is Nelson Mandela, She's Martin Luther King Junior.
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She is Barack Obama with none of the negatives. All
of these attempts, I think are going to fail. If
Republicans do a good job of actually putting her under
the microscope and making people aware of what she's actually
advocated for in the past and why she failed to
move Democrats.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
We're going to go into more of these policies, and
we're also going to look at how they're going to
try to shut down criticism of Commily. You're already seeing this.
To even use DEI now to talk about de I
and Kamala is racist. This is the new thing is
DEI is not something you're allowed to bring up in
the context of a woman whose ethnicity has been along
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with her gender, but the two of them together really
her primary political asset for a long time. Okay, oh,
she's breaking glass ceilings. Oh look at this. You know
she's she's the first in this role or that role.
And now they're saying you can't talk about it. So
we want to discuss that as well. Because they're the
corporate media, they're gonna try very hard to shut people
down for bringing up the fact that, look, if you're
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going to change standards and you're going to elevate somebody
based upon superficial characteristics, we're allowed to say this person
was elevated for superficial characteristics, not their you know, their
their skills, their brain power, their acumen or whatever, just
they fit into the DEI category. So what we're going
to see more of that and we'll discuss how they're
going to try to shut down that criticism here in
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just a moment. Also, want to take your calls eight
hundred two eighty two to eight eight too. I just
want to say, remember this, they made a dementia pation
president for four years now. We all, even they Democrats
know that now. I mean, think about what they pulled
off this guy. They can say he was much better
four years ago. He was nominally better four years ago.
He's been the same the whole time. We all know it.
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They can make a dementia pation president. They can make
anybody president. Don't forget it. So we are not sleeping here.
We're not going to get caught napping, all right. We're
aware that this is a challenge, and I think it's
one that Trump and the Republicans and the conservatives in
this country can rise to.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Travis end buck Sexton. I sat and I watched. I
had low expectations of Joe Biden's address from the Oval Office.
He managed to not reach my low expectations. This was
a really another poor speech. He couldn't really read it
off the teleprompter. And I told you this, I think
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we have cut three before Joe Biden dropped out. Buck
We had a conversation, and I said, hey, here's how
we'll go. He'll drop out, and all of the media
will immediately compare him to George Washington, because like Washington,
they'll say he gave up power when he didn't have to.
We all know it's a lie. Here is cut three,
me telling you what happened, followed by our favorite stars
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of left wing media doing exactly what I told you
they would. Listen, they're going to try to turn Joe
Biden into George Washington. They're going to say, never have
we seen a more selfless leader. He acknowledged that the
country is more important than him.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
This act.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
What's Joe Biden in league with the history's most selfless
leaders Roman General Cincinnatus, the father of our country, George Washington.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
This was selfless. This was selfless on a level. I
think that's important in a way.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
That we talk about George Washington being selfless.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
George Washington and Joe Biden shared that same reason. George
Washington also showed this country how to step down and
pass the baton.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'm not saying that Biden is exactly like Washington, but
I do think the act of being able to step
away from that power.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
George Washington in seventeen ninety six walked away from a
third term, saying, the essence of democracy is that in
a democracy, a leader gives up power even when he
does does not have to.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right, Buck, it's it was obvious what they were
going to do. Biden, adds George Washington, what did you
think of the address? And I know you watched your
buddy Joe Scarborough this morning. Oh yes, did the shamelessness
of his obsequiousness there you go actually even stun you
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in the result.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It was well, let me before I get too hot
and bothered over Morning Joe, which is definitely gonna happen.
I was watching it this I really it is high comedy.
If you live in reality, Morning Joe, there's nothing funnier
on television. I'm it's just the truth. There's nothing more.
It's also horrifying because you're like, this is people watch
this and think this is reality. But it is funny
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if you if you're somebody who can see what's really
going on. But just with the Biden speech, I saw
the speech and the narrative, which you know you called.
But I've be honest with you, I think this was
clearly the way they were gonna go. Right, The narrative
of Joe Biden as selfless is I don't know what
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could be further from the truth. This demented lunatic was
clinging to the levers of power with his last gasps
of his bony fingers, and he didn't even get it
over the finish line. So I have to buy you
an expensive steak. Damn it. I'm telling you this guy
would do and I knew he would, and that was
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why I thought he might go all the way. Guys,
they're not gonna be able Clay. First of all, if
he hadn't had the disastrous debate, he wasn't stepping down.
And he had the debate and the polls drop because
of it, he was not The plan was to take
this all the way. I don't know what the conversations
were behind closed doors, but I do know this. There
was never a conversation with George Washington where Nancy Pelosi
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and Chuck Schumer or their equivalents were like, listen, old man,
you're crazy, step down, or we will ruin your family.
And something like that happened with Joe Biden. Because why
did it take a month? Maybe he kept buying time,
saying the polls will turn, the polls will turn. Okay, fine,
But I think it started out with pleading and then
it turned into bullying. And Biden is the furthest thing
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from a public servant, the great the anti truth of
Biden's entire career is that he cares about anybody but
himself and his immediate family, and that they are gaslighting
us all after Biden had to be basically told that
they'll pry him out of the Oval office if they
have to, pulling at his feet, that now he's a
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selfless hero in the model of George Washington. They're so
dishon they lie so much. I mean, come on, man,
they gotta do better than that. But I guess maybe
they think they don't.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, And it's just so incredible to me how quickly
they have turned from Joe Biden has to go to
making it seem like Joe Biden leaving was his own choice,
said he's actually George Washington or Cincinnatus, if you want
to go back. For those of us who studied a.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Long time ago, I do like the Cincinnatus reference. And
so I think where this leaves us is.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I don't know that we'll ever get the full honest
story of what went down with Joe Biden getting forced out,
how it came to pass that his campaign spokesperson was
on television Sunday morning saying Joe Biden's committed to the race,
and two hours later they put up a statement on
Twitter saying He's not going to be continuing. I do
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think that ultimately there was a final threat that was
made of Joe Biden, and I think they threatened to
twenty fifth amendment him, and the giveaway was we'll let
you finish your term if you step away now. And
I still think there's going to be a payment of
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hundreds of millions of dollars to some sort of Biden foundation,
to his library that will allow doctor Jill Biden and
Hunter Biden and all of the Biden grifters to continue
to make money off of Joe Biden's political career for
the rest of his life and their life, honestly. And
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Joe Biden was there. I did think it was interesting.
Joe Biden was there. And now I think she's flying
on Air Force one or Air Force two to direct
to Paris so she can represent the United States at
the Olympics. Which is very funny leaving Joe behind. Hunter
was also there, as was Ashley Biden sitting there on
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the side of the out of camera frame in the
Oval office.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Were you at all surprised by the ferocity with which
Biden tried to cling to power even after the debate,
Be honest, you already won the bet, right, So, I mean,
were you a little taken aback by the fact that
this guy was Three separate times they basically said, Graham,
We're gonna shove you down the stairs if you don't
walk out of the house on your own. I mean,
they really twisted his arm. And each time it was
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absolutely not I'm the guy, absolutely not back off.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
No, because of the incredible embarrassment that he's had to acknowledge.
This was essentially and I said this last night on
Jesse Waters Show, but this was a twenty seven day
knockout and Buck, you know how we talk about now
the Lincoln Douglas debates. Still, even though obviously that was
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a pre radio camera I mean photo and certainly modern
day technologies, we could have recording it with him. It
would it would be amazing to be able to hear
what exactly was said and what they sounded like and
all those things. Even to hear Abraham Lincoln's voice, I
think would be an incredible historical asset to be able
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to have. But we talk about the Lincoln Douglas debates,
we talk about Nixon versus JFK is kind of this
interesting pivot point in technology where for those of you
who recall, Nixon won on radio, but that was the
first one where JFK his incredible good looks and everything else,
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he won on television.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I was that good looking. I mean, I know I
was really good looking Romney yesterday, and some of you
were asking questions, but I'm just saying, like, there's you know, JFK,
and he's like, good looking for a politician.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I think everything's to I think JFK is good looking
for a guy.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I think he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Maybe a little crush on JFK here evidently, But I
do think that it wasn't only the debate, Buck, I
think history is going to judge this. First of all,
to your point, I think Joe Biden is going to
primarily be remembered as the guy who got knocked out
by Donald Trump in a debate, and for the next
fifty years when there are presidential debates scheduled, people will say, Hey,
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you don't want to get knocked out like Joe Biden did.
You don't want your political career to end like Joe
Biden's did. In decades from now, when people have not
seen that debate, they will. And the second part of
that buck I think is it wasn't just getting knocked
out in front of fifty million people. It was a
function of the way social media works that even people
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who weren't watching saw the replication of Joe Biden getting
knocked out over the next twenty seven days, and he
could never get up off the canvas.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
So two points here, Actually I'll take them in reverse
beuse I've been talking to some friends about this. I
think that the defection of Elon Musk a Musk from
center left to clearly right of center. I don't think
we could define his politics, but he's clearly reality based.
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We could say that, which now means right wing. These
things are synonymous, just a question of you know how
right wing is one of the biggest assets that we
have now on the right in the political co conversation.
We don't get it doesn't get talked about very much.
But there is now an open forum Twitter or X
which what do we have to call it X now?
The only downside is we have to call it X
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which is weird. But there's an open forum where they
cannot hide information in the same way. They cannot suppress
information the same way. I know people say that's only
one social media platform. Yeah, but you know, i'll see,
you know, Clay will see a clip, he'll retweet, I'll
see the retweet, I'll retweet it, I'll text it to
all these different people that I know who work at websites,
and you know, all of a sudden, they can't just
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smother the story with a pillow the way that they
did in twenty twenty. That's exactly what they did with
the Hunter Byding laptop. But that's true of every story
right now, and your point, it was true of the
debate flub as well. They they couldn't, you know, old Twitter. Yeah,
they wouldn't have said it's banned, but they would have
shadow banned it. They would have limited the some of
the clips from getting around. They would have said some
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of them are disinformation, et cetera, et cetera. They would
have done all that crap and then to your you know,
your first point, Clay about the knockout of the debate,
I think it has answered the question do debates matter? Yes,
But I also think there's a caveat to that because
this was a particular circumstance. This wasn't a bad performance
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or a policy disaster, like saying just the absolute wrong thing,
because I think that's always survivable now in our politics.
This was a step away from a guy in a
debate who's too old just having a stroke on stage
and everybody realizing this can't happen. Then you know, that's
that would have been the next step, or fainting and
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falling down because he's so feeble, Like there's just there's
not really I think gonna be much in the way
of an equivalent for this, other than I think we
have proven now there is such a thing as too
old to be president, and until that debate there wasn't.
There wasn't a too old to be president conception, at
least as far as Democrats who thought they could win
were concerned.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, the one thing I would say is, I'm not
sure it's that Biden is too old. I think that
it's just his mental and physical faculties are gone. There
are a lot of eighty five year olds out there
that I would say, hey, I don't know that I
want to sign on to you for four more years,
but they can make as good or better decisions than
almost anybody out there.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I don't want any disagree. I don't want an eighty
five year old as president. I honestly, I think Trump
is at the absolute limit. And I think Trump is
he is he is at there. Look, I think this.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Is where we agree. I do wish we had an
upper age limit instead of a lower age limit. This
is one of the things that if we could go
back in time, I think the founders they were worried
about somebody who was a young guy getting basically like
a kingship.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
But we're not talking about someone running a software company
or a soft drink company or something like that, you know,
some commercial enterprise. This is about being the commander in
chief in the United States. And nobody is better in
their eighties than they were in their sixties or even
their seventies. It's just that's not a thing. And so
I again, I think Trump is that the absolute Trump
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is at the absolute upper limit of what I would
I'm fine with Trump where he is because of the
acuity and the sharpness and the energy that we all see.
So I'm with you, Clay, it has to be a
case by case, but it's look, they're gonna they're using
it against them already, and I know that seems so
unfairly hypocritical, but they're saying, look at Kamala so young
and vital, Trump's kind of old. And we said they
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would do that if they switched out Kamala from the
whole time. This is the most obvious thing they're gonna
call it.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Takes it, by the way, the only place where you
can be sixty and considered young and vibrant. I mean,
she's fifty nine, but there's not very many other places
where you would say, man, look at how young and
vibrant that person is. I mean, she's almost sixty. And
that's the argument that they're trying to make.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
There's a lot of back and forth on the debate
that is supposed to happen that I wanted to get
to the Kamala campaign. That's what it is now, a campaign.
She is the person Michelle and Barack Obama have come
out to endorse, so there is no it is Kamala.
Thought this would be the case for quite some time.
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If not Biden, then Kamala. It is Kamala. And they
are very enthusiastic. They are buoyed, perhaps in their hopes
it's a good usage of the term I think of
being able to not only make this a competitive race
that will protect down ballot races, but I think a
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lot of Democrats are starting to believe that Kamala can
actually be Trump. They certainly are convincing themselves, and are
they convincing others as well. This is why I think
the debate that's coming up is going to get a
whole lot of attention. Trump essentially had a knockout in
the debate with Joe Biden. That was what undid him.
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I'm not bitter about it, Joe, But if you had
just not been such a dumbass and waited to debate
until the fall, Clay would be buying me delicious steak.
But no, but no, you had to go out there
like a doddering old fool and make a mess of
it all, Joe. So here we are, Clay enjoying the
victory lap and Buck just saying what could have been?
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It was so close, so close, we fumbled on the
one yard line.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Joe so much. Rather be buying you the most expensive
steak of all time and Joe Biden be the nominee,
then have you buying me the most expensive stake of
all time and Kamala Harris being the nominee? Because I
think whenever we sit down, this is going to be
a stressful fall. Now, yes, it's gonna be. Think Biden
could win the machine.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
The machine has completely mobilized behind Kamala. And what we
see is that Joe Biden's age was the unavoidable thing
that the Democrats on once he got on stage again,
they were all in. And I think this is important.
Remember they were all in on pretending he was fine
through the election, because if if they weren't, you would
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have had New York Times editorials and all the stuff
that we saw saying Joe stepped down in January actually
would have had in last summer. Right. If they were
going to be honest about this, they thought they could
get away with it. They thought they could fool enough
of the American people to pull this off. For four
more years. Now we're past that, and now it's Kamala.
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Let's get into some of this. First off, there's dishonesty
and then there's just stupidity, and those things often go together.
But Clay, when they tell us that Joe, I mean
that Trump rather is backpedaling on the debate. I mean
you had to have Pete Buddha Judge talking about this.
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There are others as well. Here, let's go to cut seventeen.
This is Kamala Harris on the debate with Trump. Let's
hear at play seventeen.
Speaker 6 (46:53):
I'll tell you I'm ready to debate Donald Trump. I
have agreed to the previously agreed upon September tenth debate.
He agreed to that previously. Now Piercy's backpeddling, But I'm ready,
and I think the voters deserve to see the split
screen that exists in this race on a debate stage.
And so I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Okay, that is an agreement that was made between two people.
You know, somebody else could call in and say, oh,
but you also owe me a steake buck because I
agreed with Clay on this one, you know, not the
Jdvans one. We won that one team. But you know,
and I would say no that the deal was with
Clay Clay and I had a gentleman's bet, right. Kamala
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Harris is a different candidate, and we all understand that
the circumstances of the debate, for example, ABC News George Stephanopoulos,
they will pull out all the stops the media that
people were expecting in the CNN. Some people I wasn't
were expecting in the CNN debate that did not show up.
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They played the CNN debate straight because what they didn't
want to do was look pathetic with doddering, old fool
Biden just being Biden, which would be enough, and them
attacking Trump like attack dogs, right, because that would undermine them.
Now it's a different dynamic. The Trump campaign should absolutely
not agree to an ABC News debate with Kamala Harris
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when the media knows they have to do everything in
their power to help her win.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
This no doubt. And I mean it's a new negotiation.
So Trump knocked out Joe Biden. I think they can
do a good job of making that argument. And I
think what the Trump team should say is we want
multiple debates, don't just want one on September tenth. And
Trump should be negotiating from a position of strength now
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because he already agreed any time, any place, anywhere, and
he showed up and he knocked Joe Biden's political career
out forever. And now I don't want just one debate
on ABC on September tenth. I believe Trump had as
agreed to a Fox News debate on September seventeenth, which
has been suggested, with Martha McCollum and Brett Baher as
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the moderators. I think that's fair, and now they'll sit
down and figure out. I also think Trump has put
out a statement saying, hey, we want to wait until
we know who the actual nominee is, which is also fair.
And it looks like they're going to nominate Kamala Harris
earlier than the official nomination, meaning the Democrat National Convention,
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which happens in late August. Here is also what I
would add associated with this. I think what the polls
look like at the end of next week is going
to be really important, because I told you early this
week I thought Kamala Harris would get a seven to
ten day bump, as a lot of people become excited
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about her. She's a new candidate. She may get another
bump when she adds her vice president, but to what
extent is her water level? In other words, as people
become more aware of who she is, and as there
are attacks levied against her, where is this race going
to be? Right about time the DNC starts and then
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also Labor Day when a lot of people come out
of their summer vacations, when everybody's kids are back in school,
and the quote unquote normal world starts to really pay
attention to the fact that we're in the midst of
a heavy political process. So far, Kamala has not been
able to take a lead in the collective polls that
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are out there, but it's tighter than it was, which
is kind of what we anticipated. I will say Buck
Kamala now in the gambling markets has taken the lead
in Michigan. Now it's fifty one to forty nine. But
this is the first time there's been a lead in
the Midwest states for a Democrat in a while. Now,
Trump still has a decent lead in Pennsylvania, still has
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a decent lead in Arizona, Georgia, all the other battleground
states but I do think this is sort of the tightening,
for lack of a better way to describe it, and
it's happening a little bit Earlier Biden couldn't win, Democrats
recognized it. His age was ultimately the knockout factor. In
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conjunction with that debate, Democrats have now brought in the
backup quarterback. So far, she's got a good first quarter.
In a sports analogy, how often does the backup quarterback
come in play well in the first quarter and then
something goes a little bit awry and they kind of
fall apart. Usually there's a reason there. A backup quarterback
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is Kamala someone who can be an elite political leader.
I have my doubts, but so far Democrats are rallying
around her like she can. Now here's the one advantage
I would say buck that Trump had, as I really
still feel like, no matter who is attacking him, there
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is no new ground of attack. And there it's painful
to get attacked and ripped and torn asunder when you
enter into the political sphere, but at some point the
American public knows you, and there's nothing new that can
come out that changes people's opinions about Trump. We saw this.
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I think with the lawfair. They tried to put him
in prison for the rest of his life. They charged
him with whatever it was, ninety felonies all over the country,
and it actually benefited him because people thought Democrats were overreaching.
They charged him with sexual assault in the civil context,
they hit him with a four hundred and fifty million
dollar fine. None of it worked. I have some cautious
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optimism that there's nothing that Kamala Harris can say that
is going to change people's opinions of Donald Trump. He
has a high floor, maybe a woe ceiling, but I
think Trump's positive negatives, trumpiness is baked in with the electorate.
I don't think most people really know Kamala Harris, and
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I think some of the punches that the Trump campaign
is going to land on her are going to register
in a way that the counterpunches don't. Does that make sense? Now?
The debates could still matter in a big way because
if Trump came out and performed in a really poor
fashion like Biden did, I think that could change expectations.
But I just think Trump's a known quantity, and that's
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the thing I like the most. As we sit here,
basically three months out.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
I just wonder how Trump is going to approach this debate.
You know, there's so much posturing and so much propaganda
and messaging and counter messaging out there right now about
how Kamala's candidacy is being received and the weaknesses of Trump.
And you know, we all understood all of the dynamics
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with Trump and Biden. You know, you really did that.
There were no surprises. You knew what Trump was going
to say about Biden, you knew what Biden was going
to say about Trump, and just their weaknesses and strengths
were apparent to everyone, not just from an analytic perspective,
but for the electorate. I think I think it was
pretty clear why people went with one or the other.
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The thing that is definitely emerging right now as I
see Clay, is they're turning this into a battle over women.
Right this is already the influencers and the pundits and
everything else. They yes, they really think that the way
they win this thing with Biden and Trump, it was
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who is going to win. Biden was going to win
the black vote by a huge majority. The demographic that
was going to determine it was working class white males
in the swing states, like that was what it was.
That was what it came down to in twenty twenty,
and that was what it was going to come down
to now. A lot of them it was that they
didn't show up for Trump, but put that aside this
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time around, Clay, I think they believe that they can
do a lot of damage to Trump's electoral chances, a
lot more damage on the female side of the equation. Yes,
they think they think that women can deliver this for Kamala,
So while we talk about her as DEI really the
identity politics of gender may be primary in this and
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I'm seeing that start to emerge as as a major
theme of the campaign. I'm gonna make a prediction now,
I think they're gonna They're gonna keep saying it, but
you're just gonna feel their heart's not in it.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
With the like defense of democracy.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
It's a new era, new time and new candidate. I
think they realize that stuff that was the Biden thing.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
I also think there's gonna be a lot of attempted
bullying of black men, who I still think are very
responsive to Trump. But there's gonna be a lot of
you know, you should be voting for the black women.
They're going to try to enact cultural pressure. And we'll
play some audio from Steph Curry, who is a prominent
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basketball player right now on the US men's Olympic team
overseas in Paris, already endorsing Kamala Harris. I do think
that's going to be a part of their strategy too,
because if I'm right and twenty five percent of black
men vote for Trump, there is no pathway for Democrats
to win, and they know that they have to get
ninety percent or more of black men, and so I
(56:27):
think you're going to start to see cultural pressure exerted
on black men to get behind Kamala Harris because she's
a black woman, and just the racial solidarity argument is coming.
I think a lot of you out there who are
black men and women who are listening to us, I'd
be curious if you agree with that. If the dynamics
have changed, I don't think there was a lot of hey,
(56:49):
you've got to support Joe Biden pressure from the black community.
I think it will be ratcheted up in a big
way with Kamala Harris.
This is twenty four a weekly highlight reel from the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Joe Biden is out. You may applaud for mister Clay Travis.
You may applaud he is the winner of a stake,
a very expensive, overpriced We'll get into those details later.
We actually have so much news that we can extend
Clay's gloating over the course of the program because we
have a bunch of things that we have to get
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to today. Secret Service Director up on Capitol Hill a
total mess, not actually giving any answers. We have so
much here, but just to put all this into the
proper context, we had a presidential In terms of the
news this month, how much news there is usually the
summer for political news is pretty minimal, right. You know,
(00:57):
a lot of people DC's ago in August, even an
election year, it tends to settle down a little bit.
They have the conventions, nobody really cares the remembers, and
then you get into the big stuff in the fall.
This month has been crazy. We had a presidential assassination
attempt against President Trump or a presidential candidate assassination attempt.
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He was hit. I keep reminding people say, wow, they
almost shot President Trump. No, they shot him, he just
was okay. So that was not this most recent weekend.
The weekend before. Then, on this weekend, after weeks and
weeks of Joe Biden his team saying he's staying in,
(01:40):
He's staying in, suddenly a tweet comes out on x
Elon Musk's platform, a private platform. Mind you, isn't this
so interesting? It's almost like a Facebook post was the
way we found out about this. Joe Biden has dropped out,
has officially endorsed Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And we'll get into all of of the machinations around this.
And there's so much here, and I know everyone's all
very fired up, and I'm sorry for the residents of
Buck Island. We did get hit by a last second
tsunami and there are no structures left standing, and in fact,
we are now a wreckage like a scuba site only
so you can go visit us underwater.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes, I've always thought Atlantis, We're the new Atlantis. Yes,
Clai Clay's gonna be grinning a lot today. And you
know what earned it. We've been talking about this for
two years. There's been some evolution here as to what
we thought would happen, respectively, what Clay thought, what I thought.
This year, I've been saying, if it's not Biden, it
will be Harris. But I've always thought, and I will
stick to this, that Biden would manage to push this
(02:45):
all the way through. The debate was completely disastrous for him,
more disastrous than I thought it would be, so I
didn't have that data point to work with, but I
figured they're still gonna They're still gonna be able to
rally around him enough that they he's their best choice. Clay,
we got a million things to dive into here. The
big thing, obviously Biden out. All eyes turned to Kamala.
(03:06):
Fifty million dollars of small donation, small dollar donors raised
in one day, they say, the biggest day of fundraising,
you know, in years for Kamala Harris. All the editorials now,
the shaping of the narrative, I mean, they're right in this.
They're bringing in the interns to write these editorials. They're
just trying to churn out as much nonsense as they can.
(03:26):
Here's where I am on this Clay. This is terrible
for the Democrats what's going on right now.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm not saying that they can't pull something off, and
there's crazy last minute possibilities, but I do not see
a world in which Kamala Harris, one of the most
untalented politicians, a DEI vice president, is able to go
up against not just a strong Republican but Donald Trump
with the biggest wind at his back and the most
(03:56):
fire in the belly we have ever seen. I think
that the Demo and this is why I didn't see
this coming. I think it's it's worse than a crime,
it's a blunder. I think what they have done is madness,
and it's because they've panicked and they went to war
with each other, and the plan was to lie the
whole time, and they got caught in the lie. What
(04:16):
do you see?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I think there are two big questions that are out
there that will determine a lot of where we're going
from this point. Number one to what extent, if at all,
will this be contested. Right now, it looks like Kamala
Harris is basically going to get the nomination without think
(04:37):
about this buck without one person ever having voted for
her to be president. In her entire political career, We've
never seen anything like this. I mean, that is truly extraordinary.
Remember she dropped out in twenty twenty before the voting started.
Democrats overwhelmingly rejected her in the twenty twenty race, and
now she's going to get the nomination without ever having
(05:00):
had to run for it. And let me ask you,
this is so my first question is gonna be contested.
I bet we agree on this. Do you think if
Biden had dropped out before the primaries and Kamala had run,
do you think she would have won an open primary
as the Democrat nominee? I do not. Do you think
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Kamala wins this nomination?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
And this is the It's almost like the super delegates
that remember they rig the system for Hillary over Bernie
in twenty sixteen. This is, in essence a Democrat machine,
like a super delegate election. They're just deciding that this
is who the person will be. I know they're going
to say, oh, well, at the convention, the delegates will
(05:44):
have to Yeah, but they had a whole prime They
just threw out fourteen million votes for Joe Biden. Okay, yes,
they just said those these are the word defending democracy.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
People.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
They just said the fourteen million votes that Joe Biden
had and all the stuff we said about Joe Biden's fine,
he's going to have a grade four more years and everything.
They have wiped that away. They've pretended like it never happened.
And the other part of this, there's so many layers here, Clay,
Joe Biden is not fit to be president right now.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
If he's not well, that's my second question. That's okay,
it will will it be contested? Second one is, and
the gambling markets basically have it right now, and they've
been very predictive in terms of you and me and
everybody else being able to bet. They have it at
fifty to fifty. Whether he's going to finish his term,
and my question on whether he finishes his term obviously
he could die, right and I hate to say that,
(06:35):
but he put out this statement on X. It's super weird.
We haven't seen him. Kamala Harris just showed up at
the White House. I know supposedly he's got COVID, but
that's basically a cold. You're telling me. They couldn't wheel
in a camera, They couldn't bring in an ability to
take a video of all this for historical purpose. Very strange.
(06:55):
And that's why let's presume that he doesn't die, which
I can't believe. We have to say that that is,
he doesn't just die because of the he's got different
complicat Yeah. Second, the second question here is, and I
don't know the answer to this, does it help or
hurt Kamala to run as the incumbent? And I don't
(07:16):
cause I can see it cutting both ways, by which
I mean, on the one hand, it makes it look
like even more of a rig job. If she's elevated,
becomes the first woman, first minority woman to be president,
and gets to run as the incumbent, it feels like
a rig job on the other hand, which might cut
against her. On the other hand, then she's the incumbent
(07:39):
and it gives her more of a stamp of authority
over the next several months. I'm curious how you would
see this purely from a political perspective. Does she benefit
running as the incumbent?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I think that they want to give the illusion because
Democrats it's so central to their sense of their party.
They're like, we're we're all about defending democracy. They want
to give the illusion that Kamala is a choice, but
Kamala's foisted on them. Kamala is a is. The pick
is the decision of the machine. She is not the
person that the Democrats, the Democrat voter at any meaningful level,
(08:17):
has decided should be the nominee. So I think that
it's it should be untenable for Biden to stay in
office as he is. He should have to resign and
Kamala Harris should take over as the president, and that
would make the most sense. I also think that would
I think that would benefit her in the long run,
because the fact that Biden isn't resigning and is staying
(08:41):
in office while he clearly does not have the mental
faculties to continue to do the job, to me, is
a in essence, an insult at Kamala Harris too. Write
you said you picked this person because she's ready to
take over. You clearly have You are clearly Joe Biden
not at your best. He has admitted that you are
not game Joe Biden, whatever that used to mean. So
(09:02):
you're not gonna let Kamala Harris take over in the situation,
You're gonna ride it out to the end, I mean,
just pardon Hunter and get it over with, right, I mean, like,
what are we really talking about here. He's not gonna
sign any real legislation. He just wants to stay in
the game longer, and I think try to negotiate more stuff,
more goodies for the Bidens on his way out. I
am really curious and I feel very strongly about this
(09:25):
part of the Clay Biden didn't want to go, and
Biden wasn't going all right. Yes, they forced him. They
straight up they made him an offer he can't refuse.
And this isn't the first time. This was the third
all out media push New York Times, everybody, He's got
to go. He's got to go. He's got to go.
The first two after the disastrous debate, Biden says, I'm staying.
(09:49):
Deal with it. I'm the nominee. I won deal with it.
I'm the president. That this is not the plan, Okay,
the plan is not to drag this out because time
is not on the side of Biden, of Kamala and
the Democrats right now. I mean they're scrambling to figure
out what happens next. They did something, they presented it
(10:09):
with something. I mean, I know they're gonna say, oh,
it was just the polls now, because I still believe Biden.
If you really look at the data, Biden's a better
candidate than Kamala against Donald Trump. And I know that
sounds insane, but that's clearly what Biden believed up until
five minutes ago. And I think that Donald Trump, if
we have an election that is vaguely free and fair,
(10:31):
there's just no way that Kamala Harris wins this election.
I think they've almost seeded this whole thing. Now they're
gonna try to cheat, They're gonna kick and scream, they
gonna have a lot of money to our media. I know
all of that, but really, Kamala Harris wins in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada. George,
absolutely not. There's no way she wins in those states
(10:52):
based on the numbers that we already see for Trumps.
It's just not feasible unless they cheat beyond our wildness imagination.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
My theory boy is, and I agree with you. I
think this is desperation, But I do think that the Biden.
I mean, when you watched him on Friday, the last
time we saw him try to walk the stairs and
even try to get into the presidential limo. I mean,
he legitimately looks like with every step that he was
(11:20):
taking that he might die between the steps. And I
hate to say that, I'm anti death. I don't want
anybody to die. I don't feel confident that he's going
to be alive on inauguration day. I mean, I can't
believe that I'm saying that, but based on the trajectory
that we are seeing of him, I don't know that
he's got six months left to live.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, there's some there's some stories out there already that
like Biden was personal friends with his doctor, with his
official doctor, and that the doctor trying to look this
up right now, that there was maybe some business day
(12:00):
that the doctor was going to be involved with the
Biden I mean, there's there's a lot of dirty stuff
going on here. Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So my theory is buck that they may have gone
to him and said, hey, we've got twenty fifth Amendment
possibilities here. You can either go out and I'm sure
they'll give the Biden family a couple one hundred million
dollars for their foundation, right for their presidential library. And
I'm doing quotation marks on those because in many ways
(12:29):
that's just a grift, right, the Biden family gets those jobs.
Hunter is some executive of the Biden Foundation, Jill is
some executive of the Biden Foundation, and they make seven
figure salaries to host dinners and you know, raise money
and do all those things. I think they threatened him.
It does. None of this makes sense that you would
(12:51):
put a letter on your personal letter head up on
your social accounts, which we know you don't run, and
then that you would have another post where you say
that Kamala Harris has your complete support. I mean, this
would not suffice as proof of life in a hostage video,
Like I feel like we need the president holding up
(13:12):
today's copy of the newspaper to verify that he's still
alive and well, and then to have Kamala Harris today
at the White House again. I know he supposedly has COVID,
but you and I would walk into Biden's beach house
for an exclusive interview right now with zero fear of
(13:33):
potentially catching COVID from him, in the same way that
I wouldn't be afraid of interviewing anybody who had a cold, right, Like,
It's not like he's got I don't. I don't even
know what the illness would have to be that you
would be terrified to be in the same room with him.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Also, the whole way that this went down, that there
was no video, there were Biden's staffers who have come
out publicly and said that they didn't know.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, most of them said they found out from the posting.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
With which I mean, you've got to be kicked cause
there were Biden staffers. This is why for a moment
there there was a rebound in Buck Island land prices
before the tsunami took us all out. They were saying
on Friday, Biden is the nominee. He's staying in focused.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
They went on the Sunday morning talk shows and said
he was one hundred percent on it all in a
couple of hours before they kicked him out.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
This is what I'm saying. It was not the plan. Okay,
they got to him. They got to him. How did
they get to him? Finally, they've been trying to get
to him for a month more than that. Well whatever
the you know, the weeks when you add them up,
would be Ever since the debate, they've certainly been pushing
to get him out entirely, and it hadn't worked until now.
(14:50):
If he was just gonna go and this was like
the Democrats pulling all the strings, he would have gone
right after the debate. In fact, they wouldn't have even
gotten to the debate. If this was the plan, they
would have had Kamala's the nominee and the wouldn't have
even running Biden. This whole thing makes no sense. They
screwed up royally. Everyone needs to stop assuming that the
Democrats have some genius playing and this is eight D
chess and they're playing it out. That is not what happened. Okay,
(15:13):
they if they were really smart, they would have just
refused to debate, which I thought they would, and they
should have. They should have taken my advice, so to speak,
or in a sense, Clay, they should have refused to
have Biden debate until least the fall, because then he
would have been the nominee. You know, they would have said.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
June whenever the real story of this campaign is written,
and I mean the real story, not the bs that
they're all putting out there. Hopefully Trump smokes Kamala and
at some point next year all of these real stories
start being You need a bitter Democrat.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Democrats correct, because they'll come out and tell you the truth.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's right. You need a beat down because then everybody
will just come out and do the whole story like
they do a lot of times with campaigns. None of
it adds up. Even the decision for June twenty seventh
didn't add up in the first places. We talked about
why have that bait.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Then you're listening to twenty four the year of impact
with Clay.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And Buck.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Feels a bit like the presidential election has just finally
started because we have a new Democrat candidate. This is
not official official, but the delegates have switched. I thought
if it wasn't going to be Joe, it would have
to be Kamala. And now that is where we are.
No one's even talking about any other options for the
(16:31):
time being for the Democrats. So we're assuming for now
that Democrats actually have a candidate for president that they
will stick with. And it is it's fastening to see it.
It's almost like you're watching a few Soviet armored brigades,
just just this mass of communist machinery that was all
(16:55):
going in one direction. Now like a flock of birds.
They've all switched it. Now they're all going in another direction.
It wasn't long ago that Kamala Harris was considered a
drag on the Joe Biden ticket, that Kamala Harris might
have to be replaced so that Joe could run because
she was so unlikable, incompetent, uninspiring, cringe inducing. And now
(17:20):
it is the greatest magic trick that Democrat media has
ever pulled. Now they all turn around and say.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Kamala Harris is amazing, Kamala Harris, this is the politician
we've been waiting for. We knew they would do it,
so it's not a surprise at all. I want everyone
to be very clear, Clay and I we all knew
that this is exactly what was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
They'll do anything for power. But it is a remarkable moment.
It is astonishing because you could go back and they'll
probably start scrubbing them from Google. But you could go
back a year, year and a half and they were
talking about what a disappointment to Biden Kamala was, how
poorly she did, and the whole borders are role. Now
(18:01):
they're saying she never was. Formerly the borders are there
was no borders. Are they wipe away the past with
a wave of the hand. It's amazing to see Clay,
this is now yesterday. I want to make sure we
were checking assumptions. Kama's a horrible politician, but that doesn't
mean she can't win. That's really where I am on this.
Kamala is an unimpressive person in every respect, but that
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doesn't mean the Democrats won't find some way. Please stop
sending the emails about how they're going to cheat. I
know the Democrats are evil and we'll do things that
are illegal if they can.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Get away with it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Okay, I don't need reminders.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We know, we know.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't know. I just want to have like a
can we just like have a little sound we play
in the background. It's like, we know they cheat, we don't.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Always trying to have to be careful with that because
I get those two. If that's all you focus on,
then you're basically why vote this is near you are?
You are nighilistically destroying any competition when you say, but
they're going to cheat. Yeah, that's why I think Trump
has actually addressed it. Too big to rig That means
(19:08):
that you have to take it in sports terms, out
of the officials' hands. You have to create a victory
that is impossible. You have to make Virginia competitive, New Hampshire, Maine,
all these other states so that it doesn't come down
to just a few votes in a few states.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And I'll say this if it is a situation where
they let's just say, theoretically we won every swing state,
but then they did something and we couldn't. We didn't
catch it red handed, we can't prove it in any
court of the of law across Well, then we deserve
to lose because the GOP is so incompetent and we're
in a one party state. We might as well admit that, right,
(19:46):
So you know, let's not just do that. They're gonna change.
I know, we know we've gone over this a million times.
Let's look at what they're gonna do with Kamala as
the nominee and figure out how Trump can run up
the scoreboard so much that it makes it if effectively
impossible for any Shenanigans to become involved. Okay, but I
just after yesterday, everyone's saying, well, Kamala is terrible, she
(20:07):
can't win, but they'll cheat, and I want to say, well,
if they cheat and they win, guess what, Kamala's president. Okay,
if they cheat and they win, she gets to call
the shots for four years. So just yelling they cheat
doesn't actually help us. Let's look at what the policies
of this administration are going, or the Kama administration would be,
(20:28):
and let's convince our fellow Americans to come out in
such huge numbers that we beat the cheat or any cheat,
that we beat any shenanigans, we beat anything that they do.
It is possible, my friends, Okay, it is possible to
do this. It is possible. I think Donald Trump is
going to win this election. So let's stay focused. Sorry, Clay,
it's got a little fire off about that because I
(20:49):
think I've got a thousand thousand messages yesterday about this.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I think that's super important. And we've been saying on
this show for a long time. If your position is well,
they're going to cheat, then basically what you devolved to
is nothing matters. Okay, So look, we talked with the
head of the R and C who is putting in place.
He told you what to do if you are worried
(21:13):
about cheating. Crew in New York can you pull up
the website address that he gave everyone instead of emailing
us that they're gonna cheat. Here is my suggestion to you.
If you are desperately afraid of that, volunteer your time
and be a monitor in your state. He asked, He said,
what did he say? I think he wanted one hundred
thousand thousand volunteers? Yes, yes, one hundred thousand. Instead of
(21:35):
whining to us about something that you are concerned about,
how about taking individual initiative yourself, going to the website
and we'll get it for you again. But you can
go listen to him on Thursday, because we directly asked
him about this, and he said on these airwaves we
want one hundred thousand volunteers. So I appreciate emails, but
(21:58):
emails aren't volunteering, right, Actually, put your money where your
mouth is and your time. Go put the effort in.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Because we have to do everything we can to get
as many votes for Trump as many lawful and truthful
and honest votes for Trump as we possibly can to
defeat Kamala Harris. And there's action to prevent cheating or
to catch cheating. Great whining about previous cheating. It just
doesn't help. We're all aware, I promise you we're all
aware of all the things that have happened. Okay, and
(22:26):
we've talked about it tons, but that was four years ago.
We have an election to win now, and that's why
we're going to focus on Kamala Harris. That's also why
we had the RNC chairman on last week to talk
about he's aware too of the games Democrats playing. Look,
sometimes they were in a little bit of a gray area.
Sometimes they were abusing state law, but the state courts
(22:46):
wouldn't actually enforce what the laws on the books were
when it came to voting. Like, there's a whole slew
of things that went down. If we're going to try
to beat Kamala Harris with Donald Trump by you know,
ten thousand votes in Georgia and thirteen thousand votes it's
in Arizona, I forget what the vote totals were. But
if we're going to leave it to that, yeah, then
we're in big trouble. If Donald Trump is gonna win
(23:07):
every single swing state and steal a few blue states
from Democrats in the process, guess what we win. Okay,
it can happen. It will happen if we stay focused.
So I want everyone to just be mobilized and motivated
in this same vein. Now, with all of that said,
Kamala Harris is the most far left wing senator we
(23:27):
have faced in a presidential race since Obama. And in
some ways you could say maybe Ever. I think Ever
is probably the right designation because Bernie Sanders never made
it onto a presidential ticket, he never actually was the nominee.
So Kamala Harris is the most far left wing senator
I think Clay we've had candidate we've had. And here's
(23:51):
what I see. That was fantastic. Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania.
His team put this out. Now, this is to tie
Bob Casey, Senator Casey and Clays, and it's so annoying.
In all these tough states, it's the same game from
Democrats all the time. When it comes time for votes,
they're not really Democrats, they're something else.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Of course, I'm a maverick. I go my own way.
And then for four years or six years or two years,
you know, whatever they all they do is go along
with Pelosi. All they do is go along with Schumer
on everything all the time. It's pathetic, it's dishonest. But
this is the only Democrats can win elections. That's what
Bob Casey's trying to pull here.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh you know, I'm about Schumer's lack.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, I think for myself. Yeah. Sure, McCormick's team nailed
this in Pennsylvania. This is about Kamala Harris. It starts
with Senator Casey, but then it goes into Kamala. Listen
to this one play for.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Kamala Harris is inspiring and very capable. The more people
get to know her, they're going to be particularly impressed
by her ability.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
A non partisan GUV Track has rated you as the
most liberal senator.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to
pass a new deal. There's no question I'm in favor
of banning TRACK.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Would you ban optional drilling?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (25:04):
What is the solution for voters in the fossil fuel industry?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Giving the workers an ability to transition. We're not going
to treat people who are undocumented across the borders criminals.
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Raise your head if you think it should be a
civil effects rather than a crime across the border without documentation.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Abolish ice, Yeah, is that a position you agree with,
and we need to probably think about starting from scratch outdated.
It is wrong headed thinking to think that the only
way you're going to get communities to be safe is
to put more police officers.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
On the street.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Like, do you support changing the dietary guidance?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, you know the food parent What for people he
has to reduce red meat specifically, yes.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
People who are convicted in prison, like the Boston Marathon,
bombers on death row, people who are convicted of sexual assault, they.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Should be able to vote.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I think we should have that conversation. We have to
have a buyback program, and I support a mandatory buyback program.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So for people out there who like their insurance, they
don't get to keep it.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on. I'm opposed
to any policy that would denying any human being public
health period.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
The more people get to know her, they're going to
be particularly impressed by her ability.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
First of all, I love the cackle because it's unsettling.
I'm sorry, it's unsettling, and you could say that that's
not fair. That's just how she laughs, but it just
sort of it's not a clay. The policy she lays
down here, don't put more cops on the street. That
won't make people safer. Give free healthcare to illegals. All
ten million that have come in under Biden, for example,
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plus the millions were already here. Ban fracking. I don't
even think she knows more than half of our oil
comes from fracking procedures right in our processes right now.
She's a lunatic. I mean, her policies are insane.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
She hasn't been vetted. And this is to me where
Republicans really have an opportunity to go after her. She
dodged scrutiny. I think it was a three part reason
why she scrutiny. One, the twenty twenty election was really
about Trump. They hid Biden in his basement and they
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tried to convince you that Trump was Hitler and you
were all going to die of COVID. That's what they did.
And the Biden was Grandpa Joe, and he would solve everything,
and he would make America normal again and obviously bring
decency to the country, put the adults back in charge.
That has failed. Then also COVID, there was such an
omnipresent story of COVID. And then fear of BLM as
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a result. Remember, Kamala Harris was uniformly rejected by Democrat
voters in the twenty twenty primary. If they had had
a primary in twenty twenty four, if Joe Biden had
done what he should have done and announced sometime in
the summer ish of twenty twenty three that he wasn't
going to run for reelection, there would have been a
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robust Democrat primary, and buck I think there's almost no
chance that Kamala Harris would have been the nominee. Democrats
would not have picked her. Now they are trying to
gaslight you and make you convinced, oh, hey, she's an
amazing candidate. She is Nelson Mandela, She's Martin Luther King Junior.
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She is Barack Obama with none of the negatives. All
of these attempts, I think are going to fail. If
Republicans do a good job of actually putting her under
the microscope and making people aware of what she's actually
advocated for in the past and why she failed to
move Democrats.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
We're going to go into more of these policies, and
we're also going to look at how they're going to
try to shut down criticism of Commily. You're already seeing this.
To even use DEI now to talk about de I
and Kamala is racist. This is the new thing is
DEI is not something you're allowed to bring up in
the context of a woman whose ethnicity has been along
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with her gender, but the two of them together really
her primary political asset for a long time. Okay, oh,
she's breaking glass ceilings. Oh look at this. You know
she's she's the first in this role or that role.
And now they're saying you can't talk about it. So
we want to discuss that as well. Because they're the
corporate media, they're gonna try very hard to shut people
down for bringing up the fact that, look, if you're
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going to change standards and you're going to elevate somebody
based upon superficial characteristics, we're allowed to say this person
was elevated for superficial characteristics, not their you know, their
their skills, their brain power, their acumen or whatever, just
they fit into the DEI category. So what we're going
to see more of that and we'll discuss how they're
going to try to shut down that criticism here in
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just a moment. Also, want to take your calls eight
hundred two eighty two to eight eight too. I just
want to say, remember this, they made a dementia pation
president for four years now. We all, even they Democrats
know that now. I mean, think about what they pulled
off this guy. They can say he was much better
four years ago. He was nominally better four years ago.
He's been the same the whole time. We all know it.
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They can make a dementia pation president. They can make
anybody president. Don't forget it. So we are not sleeping here.
We're not going to get caught napping, all right. We're
aware that this is a challenge, and I think it's
one that Trump and the Republicans and the conservatives in
this country can rise to.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Travis end buck Sexton. I sat and I watched. I
had low expectations of Joe Biden's address from the Oval Office.
He managed to not reach my low expectations. This was
a really another poor speech. He couldn't really read it
off the teleprompter. And I told you this, I think
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we have cut three before Joe Biden dropped out. Buck
We had a conversation, and I said, hey, here's how
we'll go. He'll drop out, and all of the media
will immediately compare him to George Washington, because like Washington,
they'll say he gave up power when he didn't have to.
We all know it's a lie. Here is cut three,
me telling you what happened, followed by our favorite stars
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of left wing media doing exactly what I told you
they would. Listen, they're going to try to turn Joe
Biden into George Washington. They're going to say, never have
we seen a more selfless leader. He acknowledged that the
country is more important than him.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
This act.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
What's Joe Biden in league with the history's most selfless
leaders Roman General Cincinnatus, the father of our country, George Washington.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
This was selfless. This was selfless on a level. I
think that's important in a way.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
That we talk about George Washington being selfless.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
George Washington and Joe Biden shared that same reason. George
Washington also showed this country how to step down and
pass the baton.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'm not saying that Biden is exactly like Washington, but
I do think the act of being able to step
away from that power.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
George Washington in seventeen ninety six walked away from a
third term, saying, the essence of democracy is that in
a democracy, a leader gives up power even when he
does does not have to.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right, Buck, it's it was obvious what they were
going to do. Biden, adds George Washington, what did you
think of the address? And I know you watched your
buddy Joe Scarborough this morning. Oh yes, did the shamelessness
of his obsequiousness there you go actually even stun you
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in the result.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It was well, let me before I get too hot
and bothered over Morning Joe, which is definitely gonna happen.
I was watching it this I really it is high comedy.
If you live in reality, Morning Joe, there's nothing funnier
on television. I'm it's just the truth. There's nothing more.
It's also horrifying because you're like, this is people watch
this and think this is reality. But it is funny
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if you if you're somebody who can see what's really
going on. But just with the Biden speech, I saw
the speech and the narrative, which you know you called.
But I've be honest with you, I think this was
clearly the way they were gonna go. Right, The narrative
of Joe Biden as selfless is I don't know what
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could be further from the truth. This demented lunatic was
clinging to the levers of power with his last gasps
of his bony fingers, and he didn't even get it
over the finish line. So I have to buy you
an expensive steak. Damn it. I'm telling you this guy
would do and I knew he would, and that was
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why I thought he might go all the way. Guys,
they're not gonna be able Clay. First of all, if
he hadn't had the disastrous debate, he wasn't stepping down.
And he had the debate and the polls drop because
of it, he was not The plan was to take
this all the way. I don't know what the conversations
were behind closed doors, but I do know this. There
was never a conversation with George Washington where Nancy Pelosi
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and Chuck Schumer or their equivalents were like, listen, old man,
you're crazy, step down, or we will ruin your family.
And something like that happened with Joe Biden. Because why
did it take a month? Maybe he kept buying time,
saying the polls will turn, the polls will turn. Okay, fine,
But I think it started out with pleading and then
it turned into bullying. And Biden is the furthest thing
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from a public servant, the great the anti truth of
Biden's entire career is that he cares about anybody but
himself and his immediate family, and that they are gaslighting
us all after Biden had to be basically told that
they'll pry him out of the Oval office if they
have to, pulling at his feet, that now he's a
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selfless hero in the model of George Washington. They're so
dishon they lie so much. I mean, come on, man,
they gotta do better than that. But I guess maybe
they think they don't.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, And it's just so incredible to me how quickly
they have turned from Joe Biden has to go to
making it seem like Joe Biden leaving was his own choice,
said he's actually George Washington or Cincinnatus, if you want
to go back. For those of us who studied a.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Long time ago, I do like the Cincinnatus reference. And
so I think where this leaves us is.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I don't know that we'll ever get the full honest
story of what went down with Joe Biden getting forced out,
how it came to pass that his campaign spokesperson was
on television Sunday morning saying Joe Biden's committed to the race,
and two hours later they put up a statement on
Twitter saying He's not going to be continuing. I do
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think that ultimately there was a final threat that was
made of Joe Biden, and I think they threatened to
twenty fifth amendment him, and the giveaway was we'll let
you finish your term if you step away now. And
I still think there's going to be a payment of
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hundreds of millions of dollars to some sort of Biden foundation,
to his library that will allow doctor Jill Biden and
Hunter Biden and all of the Biden grifters to continue
to make money off of Joe Biden's political career for
the rest of his life and their life, honestly. And
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Joe Biden was there. I did think it was interesting.
Joe Biden was there. And now I think she's flying
on Air Force one or Air Force two to direct
to Paris so she can represent the United States at
the Olympics. Which is very funny leaving Joe behind. Hunter
was also there, as was Ashley Biden sitting there on
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the side of the out of camera frame in the
Oval office.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Were you at all surprised by the ferocity with which
Biden tried to cling to power even after the debate,
Be honest, you already won the bet, right, So, I mean,
were you a little taken aback by the fact that
this guy was Three separate times they basically said, Graham,
We're gonna shove you down the stairs if you don't
walk out of the house on your own. I mean,
they really twisted his arm. And each time it was
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absolutely not I'm the guy, absolutely not back off.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
No, because of the incredible embarrassment that he's had to acknowledge.
This was essentially and I said this last night on
Jesse Waters Show, but this was a twenty seven day
knockout and Buck, you know how we talk about now
the Lincoln Douglas debates. Still, even though obviously that was
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a pre radio camera I mean photo and certainly modern
day technologies, we could have recording it with him. It
would it would be amazing to be able to hear
what exactly was said and what they sounded like and
all those things. Even to hear Abraham Lincoln's voice, I
think would be an incredible historical asset to be able
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to have. But we talk about the Lincoln Douglas debates,
we talk about Nixon versus JFK is kind of this
interesting pivot point in technology where for those of you
who recall, Nixon won on radio, but that was the
first one where JFK his incredible good looks and everything else,
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he won on television.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I was that good looking. I mean, I know I
was really good looking Romney yesterday, and some of you
were asking questions, but I'm just saying, like, there's you know, JFK,
and he's like, good looking for a politician.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I think everything's to I think JFK is good looking
for a guy.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I think he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Maybe a little crush on JFK here evidently, But I
do think that it wasn't only the debate, Buck, I
think history is going to judge this. First of all,
to your point, I think Joe Biden is going to
primarily be remembered as the guy who got knocked out
by Donald Trump in a debate, and for the next
fifty years when there are presidential debates scheduled, people will say, Hey,
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you don't want to get knocked out like Joe Biden did.
You don't want your political career to end like Joe
Biden's did. In decades from now, when people have not
seen that debate, they will. And the second part of
that buck I think is it wasn't just getting knocked
out in front of fifty million people. It was a
function of the way social media works that even people
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who weren't watching saw the replication of Joe Biden getting
knocked out over the next twenty seven days, and he
could never get up off the canvas.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
So two points here, Actually I'll take them in reverse
beuse I've been talking to some friends about this. I
think that the defection of Elon Musk a Musk from
center left to clearly right of center. I don't think
we could define his politics, but he's clearly reality based.
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We could say that, which now means right wing. These
things are synonymous, just a question of you know how
right wing is one of the biggest assets that we
have now on the right in the political co conversation.
We don't get it doesn't get talked about very much.
But there is now an open forum Twitter or X
which what do we have to call it X now?
The only downside is we have to call it X
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which is weird. But there's an open forum where they
cannot hide information in the same way. They cannot suppress
information the same way. I know people say that's only
one social media platform. Yeah, but you know, i'll see,
you know, Clay will see a clip, he'll retweet, I'll
see the retweet, I'll retweet it, I'll text it to
all these different people that I know who work at websites,
and you know, all of a sudden, they can't just
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smother the story with a pillow the way that they
did in twenty twenty. That's exactly what they did with
the Hunter Byding laptop. But that's true of every story
right now, and your point, it was true of the
debate flub as well. They they couldn't, you know, old Twitter. Yeah,
they wouldn't have said it's banned, but they would have
shadow banned it. They would have limited the some of
the clips from getting around. They would have said some
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of them are disinformation, et cetera, et cetera. They would
have done all that crap and then to your you know,
your first point, Clay about the knockout of the debate,
I think it has answered the question do debates matter? Yes,
But I also think there's a caveat to that because
this was a particular circumstance. This wasn't a bad performance
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or a policy disaster, like saying just the absolute wrong thing,
because I think that's always survivable now in our politics.
This was a step away from a guy in a
debate who's too old just having a stroke on stage
and everybody realizing this can't happen. Then you know, that's
that would have been the next step, or fainting and
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falling down because he's so feeble, Like there's just there's
not really I think gonna be much in the way
of an equivalent for this, other than I think we
have proven now there is such a thing as too
old to be president, and until that debate there wasn't.
There wasn't a too old to be president conception, at
least as far as Democrats who thought they could win
were concerned.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, the one thing I would say is, I'm not
sure it's that Biden is too old. I think that
it's just his mental and physical faculties are gone. There
are a lot of eighty five year olds out there
that I would say, hey, I don't know that I
want to sign on to you for four more years,
but they can make as good or better decisions than
almost anybody out there.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I don't want any disagree. I don't want an eighty
five year old as president. I honestly, I think Trump
is at the absolute limit. And I think Trump is
he is he is at there. Look, I think this.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Is where we agree. I do wish we had an
upper age limit instead of a lower age limit. This
is one of the things that if we could go
back in time, I think the founders they were worried
about somebody who was a young guy getting basically like
a kingship.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
But we're not talking about someone running a software company
or a soft drink company or something like that, you know,
some commercial enterprise. This is about being the commander in
chief in the United States. And nobody is better in
their eighties than they were in their sixties or even
their seventies. It's just that's not a thing. And so
I again, I think Trump is that the absolute Trump
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is at the absolute upper limit of what I would
I'm fine with Trump where he is because of the
acuity and the sharpness and the energy that we all see.
So I'm with you, Clay, it has to be a
case by case, but it's look, they're gonna they're using
it against them already, and I know that seems so
unfairly hypocritical, but they're saying, look at Kamala so young
and vital, Trump's kind of old. And we said they
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would do that if they switched out Kamala from the
whole time. This is the most obvious thing they're gonna
call it.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Takes it, by the way, the only place where you
can be sixty and considered young and vibrant. I mean,
she's fifty nine, but there's not very many other places
where you would say, man, look at how young and
vibrant that person is. I mean, she's almost sixty. And
that's the argument that they're trying to make.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
There's a lot of back and forth on the debate
that is supposed to happen that I wanted to get
to the Kamala campaign. That's what it is now, a campaign.
She is the person Michelle and Barack Obama have come
out to endorse, so there is no it is Kamala.
Thought this would be the case for quite some time.
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If not Biden, then Kamala. It is Kamala. And they
are very enthusiastic. They are buoyed, perhaps in their hopes
it's a good usage of the term I think of
being able to not only make this a competitive race
that will protect down ballot races, but I think a
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lot of Democrats are starting to believe that Kamala can
actually be Trump. They certainly are convincing themselves, and are
they convincing others as well. This is why I think
the debate that's coming up is going to get a
whole lot of attention. Trump essentially had a knockout in
the debate with Joe Biden. That was what undid him.
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I'm not bitter about it, Joe, But if you had
just not been such a dumbass and waited to debate
until the fall, Clay would be buying me delicious steak.
But no, but no, you had to go out there
like a doddering old fool and make a mess of
it all, Joe. So here we are, Clay enjoying the
victory lap and Buck just saying what could have been?
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It was so close, so close, we fumbled on the
one yard line.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Joe so much. Rather be buying you the most expensive
steak of all time and Joe Biden be the nominee,
then have you buying me the most expensive stake of
all time and Kamala Harris being the nominee? Because I
think whenever we sit down, this is going to be
a stressful fall. Now, yes, it's gonna be. Think Biden
could win the machine.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
The machine has completely mobilized behind Kamala. And what we
see is that Joe Biden's age was the unavoidable thing
that the Democrats on once he got on stage again,
they were all in. And I think this is important.
Remember they were all in on pretending he was fine
through the election, because if if they weren't, you would
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have had New York Times editorials and all the stuff
that we saw saying Joe stepped down in January actually
would have had in last summer. Right. If they were
going to be honest about this, they thought they could
get away with it. They thought they could fool enough
of the American people to pull this off. For four
more years. Now we're past that, and now it's Kamala.
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Let's get into some of this. First off, there's dishonesty
and then there's just stupidity, and those things often go together.
But Clay, when they tell us that Joe, I mean
that Trump rather is backpedaling on the debate. I mean
you had to have Pete Buddha Judge talking about this.
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There are others as well. Here, let's go to cut seventeen.
This is Kamala Harris on the debate with Trump. Let's
hear at play seventeen.
Speaker 6 (46:53):
I'll tell you I'm ready to debate Donald Trump. I
have agreed to the previously agreed upon September tenth debate.
He agreed to that previously. Now Piercy's backpeddling, But I'm ready,
and I think the voters deserve to see the split
screen that exists in this race on a debate stage.
And so I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Okay, that is an agreement that was made between two people.
You know, somebody else could call in and say, oh,
but you also owe me a steake buck because I
agreed with Clay on this one, you know, not the
Jdvans one. We won that one team. But you know,
and I would say no that the deal was with
Clay Clay and I had a gentleman's bet, right. Kamala
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Harris is a different candidate, and we all understand that
the circumstances of the debate, for example, ABC News George Stephanopoulos,
they will pull out all the stops the media that
people were expecting in the CNN. Some people I wasn't
were expecting in the CNN debate that did not show up.
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They played the CNN debate straight because what they didn't
want to do was look pathetic with doddering, old fool
Biden just being Biden, which would be enough, and them
attacking Trump like attack dogs, right, because that would undermine them.
Now it's a different dynamic. The Trump campaign should absolutely
not agree to an ABC News debate with Kamala Harris
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when the media knows they have to do everything in
their power to help her win.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
This no doubt. And I mean it's a new negotiation.
So Trump knocked out Joe Biden. I think they can
do a good job of making that argument. And I
think what the Trump team should say is we want
multiple debates, don't just want one on September tenth. And
Trump should be negotiating from a position of strength now
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because he already agreed any time, any place, anywhere, and
he showed up and he knocked Joe Biden's political career
out forever. And now I don't want just one debate
on ABC on September tenth. I believe Trump had as
agreed to a Fox News debate on September seventeenth, which
has been suggested, with Martha McCollum and Brett Baher as
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the moderators. I think that's fair, and now they'll sit
down and figure out. I also think Trump has put
out a statement saying, hey, we want to wait until
we know who the actual nominee is, which is also fair.
And it looks like they're going to nominate Kamala Harris
earlier than the official nomination, meaning the Democrat National Convention,
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which happens in late August. Here is also what I
would add associated with this. I think what the polls
look like at the end of next week is going
to be really important, because I told you early this
week I thought Kamala Harris would get a seven to
ten day bump, as a lot of people become excited
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about her. She's a new candidate. She may get another
bump when she adds her vice president, but to what
extent is her water level? In other words, as people
become more aware of who she is, and as there
are attacks levied against her, where is this race going
to be? Right about time the DNC starts and then
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also Labor Day when a lot of people come out
of their summer vacations, when everybody's kids are back in school,
and the quote unquote normal world starts to really pay
attention to the fact that we're in the midst of
a heavy political process. So far, Kamala has not been
able to take a lead in the collective polls that
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are out there, but it's tighter than it was, which
is kind of what we anticipated. I will say Buck
Kamala now in the gambling markets has taken the lead
in Michigan. Now it's fifty one to forty nine. But
this is the first time there's been a lead in
the Midwest states for a Democrat in a while. Now,
Trump still has a decent lead in Pennsylvania, still has
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a decent lead in Arizona, Georgia, all the other battleground
states but I do think this is sort of the tightening,
for lack of a better way to describe it, and
it's happening a little bit Earlier Biden couldn't win, Democrats
recognized it. His age was ultimately the knockout factor. In
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conjunction with that debate, Democrats have now brought in the
backup quarterback. So far, she's got a good first quarter.
In a sports analogy, how often does the backup quarterback
come in play well in the first quarter and then
something goes a little bit awry and they kind of
fall apart. Usually there's a reason there. A backup quarterback
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is Kamala someone who can be an elite political leader.
I have my doubts, but so far Democrats are rallying
around her like she can. Now here's the one advantage
I would say buck that Trump had, as I really
still feel like, no matter who is attacking him, there
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is no new ground of attack. And there it's painful
to get attacked and ripped and torn asunder when you
enter into the political sphere, but at some point the
American public knows you, and there's nothing new that can
come out that changes people's opinions about Trump. We saw this.
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I think with the lawfair. They tried to put him
in prison for the rest of his life. They charged
him with whatever it was, ninety felonies all over the country,
and it actually benefited him because people thought Democrats were overreaching.
They charged him with sexual assault in the civil context,
they hit him with a four hundred and fifty million
dollar fine. None of it worked. I have some cautious
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optimism that there's nothing that Kamala Harris can say that
is going to change people's opinions of Donald Trump. He
has a high floor, maybe a woe ceiling, but I
think Trump's positive negatives, trumpiness is baked in with the electorate.
I don't think most people really know Kamala Harris, and
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I think some of the punches that the Trump campaign
is going to land on her are going to register
in a way that the counterpunches don't. Does that make sense? Now?
The debates could still matter in a big way because
if Trump came out and performed in a really poor
fashion like Biden did, I think that could change expectations.
But I just think Trump's a known quantity, and that's
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the thing I like the most. As we sit here,
basically three months out.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
I just wonder how Trump is going to approach this debate.
You know, there's so much posturing and so much propaganda
and messaging and counter messaging out there right now about
how Kamala's candidacy is being received and the weaknesses of Trump.
And you know, we all understood all of the dynamics
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with Trump and Biden. You know, you really did that.
There were no surprises. You knew what Trump was going
to say about Biden, you knew what Biden was going
to say about Trump, and just their weaknesses and strengths
were apparent to everyone, not just from an analytic perspective,
but for the electorate. I think I think it was
pretty clear why people went with one or the other.
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The thing that is definitely emerging right now as I
see Clay, is they're turning this into a battle over women.
Right this is already the influencers and the pundits and
everything else. They yes, they really think that the way
they win this thing with Biden and Trump, it was
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who is going to win. Biden was going to win
the black vote by a huge majority. The demographic that
was going to determine it was working class white males
in the swing states, like that was what it was.
That was what it came down to in twenty twenty,
and that was what it was going to come down
to now. A lot of them it was that they
didn't show up for Trump, but put that aside this
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time around, Clay, I think they believe that they can
do a lot of damage to Trump's electoral chances, a
lot more damage on the female side of the equation. Yes,
they think they think that women can deliver this for Kamala,
So while we talk about her as DEI really the
identity politics of gender may be primary in this and
(55:23):
I'm seeing that start to emerge as as a major
theme of the campaign. I'm gonna make a prediction now,
I think they're gonna They're gonna keep saying it, but
you're just gonna feel their heart's not in it.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
With the like defense of democracy.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
It's a new era, new time and new candidate. I
think they realize that stuff that was the Biden thing.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
I also think there's gonna be a lot of attempted
bullying of black men, who I still think are very
responsive to Trump. But there's gonna be a lot of
you know, you should be voting for the black women.
They're going to try to enact cultural pressure. And we'll
play some audio from Steph Curry, who is a prominent
(56:03):
basketball player right now on the US men's Olympic team
overseas in Paris, already endorsing Kamala Harris. I do think
that's going to be a part of their strategy too,
because if I'm right and twenty five percent of black
men vote for Trump, there is no pathway for Democrats
to win, and they know that they have to get
ninety percent or more of black men, and so I
(56:27):
think you're going to start to see cultural pressure exerted
on black men to get behind Kamala Harris because she's
a black woman, and just the racial solidarity argument is coming.
I think a lot of you out there who are
black men and women who are listening to us, I'd
be curious if you agree with that. If the dynamics
have changed, I don't think there was a lot of hey,
(56:49):
you've got to support Joe Biden pressure from the black community.
I think it will be ratcheted up in a big
way with Kamala Harris.
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