July 30, 2024 • 36 mins
Senator Rand Paul joined Clay and Buck to discuss the joint HSGAC-Judiciary hearing on the attempted Trump assassination. More Brussels sprouts wars with Jesse Kelly. Joe Concha, Fox News contributor and political columnist, joined C&B to discuss his new book released today: "Progressively Worse: Why Today's Democrats Ain't Your Daddy's Donkeys." New trend: Selling tickets to weddings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour, clay en Buck kicks off. Now, thanks for
being with us, everybody all across the country. Senator Ran
Paul was up on Capitol Hill during the biggest news
story really of certainly the day on the domestic front,
which is the Secret Service hearing. Senator Paul was there.
He was asking questions and he is fresh off the
floor and joining us now, Senator Ram Paul, always a
(00:22):
pleasure to have you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Sure, thanks for making the time for us.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me. Yeah, we had.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Quite the hearing.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We combined Judiciary and Homeland Security to probably twenty five
thirty senators, and we had the new head of the
Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You were there.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We were doing the show during it, so we were
pulling it on the fly, the cuts and clips and
quotes as we could. We wanted to just let you
tell everybody, Senator Paul, your biggest takeaways as somebody who's
been in this game a long time and knows what
to expect, what were the most important things.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, if you compare the new director to the old director,
there's night and day difference. She went and answered the questions.
She came only to obstruct the truth, and she was
an awful administrator, and she had never been in the job,
and I think was a political hire. This guy seems
to have been in the Secret Service for quite a while.
(01:16):
He seems like a straight shooter. He said there will
be disciplinary hearings. He's not saying who's going to be
fired or will they be fired, but he's the least
saying that are going to be disciplinary hearings, he said
in his opening added my questioning that it was not defensible.
It's indefensible to leave that rooftop open and not have
snipers on that. He says he's changed the policy. They
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don't get a choice. Now there will be Secret Service
snipers on any building. One of the things that didn't
come out in the hearing, but it comes out when
you see some of the photographs of this. The Washington County,
which is a neighboring county to Butler County, had a
sniper team there for the local police. They were three
hundred yards away on the other side. And this hasn't
been mentioned much, but they stationed cniper's three hundred yards
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away from the stage, but then failed to station snipers
one hundred yards away. So I mean, just it was
completely ineptitude. But it's also when your job is to
protect lives, if you fail that job, it means you
can't get it again. It doesn't mean you're a bad person,
you made a terrible error, but it means you don't
have the confidence to be in that position. And so
(02:22):
I said, you know, the world wants to know there'll
be accountability, but the world also wants to know that
these people aren't going to be at the next Trump
rally guarding him, and that they're not going to be
in charge of the Democrat National Convention. And he kind
of said they weren't, but then he kind of said, well,
we can't really talk about who they are because they're
still working. It's like, well, maybe they need to be
at a desk job for a while till we figured out,
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you know, how they could have left that roof open,
and how they let a suspicious person go ninety minutes
the gas line drones at three point fifty one in
the afternoon. He cited at least a half a dozen times,
they take pictures of him all over the place. He's
walking around the backpack in it. Within ar fifteen that
he unfolds on the route after running across four roofs,
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being spotted by the crowd, and still nobody warns the
President to leave the stage completely. To my mom. In
Defensive one, we're.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Talking to Senator Ran Paul.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
When I hear these guys testify, whether it's the Kim
Cheetle who was fired or the new acting director, what
I really want to hear to the details you just
gave are from let's say, the sniper who took out
this shooter in the Secret Service? Will we hear testimony
from actual Secret Service agents on the ground that day
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as opposed to kind of an elaborate game of telephone,
which is the director testifying as to what someone told him,
as opposed to hearing directly from the people on the
ground that day.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
We have a bipartisan note insisting on that. So Chairman
Peters is a Democrat from Michigan. I'm the ranking Republican
on homand Security. The letter's been signed by the two
of us, plus another Republican and another Democrat, insisting on
individual interviews from the Secret Service. Now, he said, is
hearing it's going to happen, But we don't want it
(04:11):
to happen in six months or six years. We want
it done. We gave him till August ninth. Now they
have not officially responded to that, but it acts like
it's going to happen. But what gives me some misgivings
is the Secret Service is investigating this, you know, for
possible disciplinary action. They have not interviewed any of the
local police. So it's a couple of weeks now, and
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they have not interviewed any local police. Our congressional staff
went last weekend, four different Senate officers went to Butler
County and we interviewed the local police officers. So and
we're not even you know, we're the oversight for the public,
but we're not the disciplinary committee, we're not the Secret Service,
and they haven't interviewed anybody from the local police. It
also concerns me that there's a little bit of pointing
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fingers from the new director saying, oh, well, the Secret
Service assigned that the local police. Well, we've interviewed the
local police and they say they brought up the strategic
problem of leaving the roof unattended, And the Secret Service says,
we've got this. You do what you're told, And they
never told him to be on the roof, so it's
a little bit of he said, she said. But in
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the end, though, it doesn't really matter who's in charge.
If you are the charge, if you're the CEO of
this battlefield, if you're in charge of safety for Butler County,
you can't do this again. You failed in your job
because you left a roof unattended with a direct line
of sight and you didn't stop the proceedings when you
had a suspicious person reported upon by multiple officers for
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ninety minutes. How could you not have an all points
bulletin with people rushing around and getting that kid if
that had gotten him, he was on the roof at
six oh six, he's rushing and running across four roofs
to get to his shooting position. All you had to
do is get him any time between four point fifteen
when you spot him and six oh six when he
gets on the roof, and stop him because his backpackd
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AAR fifteen and he's going to be stopped and it's
going to be foiled. And one man wouldn't have lost
his life and Donald Trump wouldn't have almost been killed.
So it's just it's a tragic comedy of errors. But
really malfeasance, and you look, it doesn't mean the person's
a bad person. They probably feel upset that they missed
this too, But it's such a profound judgment air that
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you can't do this again and you just preclude yourself
from that kind of responsibility for a job ever again.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
So I'm glad to hear that you guys ever requested
and potentially are going to be able to talk to
the guys that were actually on the ground that day.
Would that be a public hearing, would that be a
closed hearing? What would that look like for those of
us out here who want to get the full story
of the failures that day.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I can understand not wanting to them put them up
because there is a little bit of political grandstanding where
people are yelling back and forth each other. I do
think the officers deserve more respect than that, and so
I think it should be transcribed and we should do
first private interviews that will be part of a public record,
and I think that saves them sort of. So for example,
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the person in charge, we have the names, they won't
they're not making the names public, but we've asked for
ten specific individuals to be interviewed. We've already interviewed the
local police ourselves. We've been there. But those ten people,
I think they should get to be interviewed without people
yelling and screaming at them, and hear their stories. Compare
the different stories, because there's probably going to be different stories.
(07:30):
The local police are going to say one thing. I
think Secret Service is probably going to say another thing.
But then there are some things that really they're saying,
Oh well at six oh eight when people seem on
the roof, they never told the Secret Service until right
before the shots were fired, and it's like, well, you know,
they say, oh, they're broadcast walkie talkies don't communicate with ours,
and it's like, you know, what kind of world do
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we live in? You could go out in a best
ube and buy two hundred Walkee talkies on the same
frequency that broadcasts out loud and say hey, why don't
you go all carry them for today? And they will
take them next week when Trump's in Las Vele, send
somebody else will It's not rocket science to figure out
how everybody could be on one channel. Simply been giving
everybody an extra device that communicates with the local broadcast.
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But the local police chief or whoever's in charge of
the security from the local position is supposed to be
standing next to the Secret Service commander in a command post,
so when they hear the broadcast that his officers are
searching frantically and have seen someone roof. The second someone
said there's a gun a roof, that's at six o' eight,
you have three three and a half minutes still the
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shooting starts. So you have three minutes, which doesn't sound
like a long time, but that's plenty long enough for
a broadcast message to get out to have taken Trump
off the stage. And it may be if he's just
motivated to kill Trump that he doesn't fry the shots
and kill the other people either, you know, kill the
other the local fire chief if Trump were taken down.
(08:56):
So yeah, it's inexcusable. Three minutes is a long time,
but at the same time, you know, you don't want
to denigrate the officers. I mean, the marksman sniper that
took the shooter out did it with one quick shot
within I think within fifteen seconds of the shots being fired.
But really that's why you have security those to try
to make sure you know that's done before he gets
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a shot off.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Speaking the Senator Ram Paul of Kentucky. Senator Paul, are
are there any unanswered questions in your mind when it
comes to the shooter? I mean, we know the motivation
was to kill Donald Trump, obviously, so people talking about motivation,
but in terms of whether he had any assistance, whether
there are any other actors that played any role in
this whatsoever, anything about training, anything about social media? Are
(09:40):
there are there further unanswered questions that you're looking into
on that score? Do you think that we that you
know now with the access you have what you need
to know.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
You know, since the it's an absence of knowledge on
the social media right now. So it's not that they
haven't found much. That doesn't mean they won't find anything.
And I think the FBI is still pursuing that he
did communicate on some encrypted platforms. And you know, some
of the people who don't you want to destroy all encryption,
are like, oh, why don't we just get rid of encryption.
(10:10):
When you have a warrant, you can go to any
company that has encryption and they have to divulge the
contents of the communication. So I'm not sure I understand
the problem unless it's a company outside the US that
we don't have control of. But if it's a company
that encrypts messages within the US, they'll accept a warrant
and they should unencrypted messages and we should be able
(10:30):
to get those. But no, there's nothing really right off
hand that I know of that we're missing about motive.
It's a little surprising to most people that there wasn't
more political discussion, more motivation that the ODD today mentioned
that there is a bunch that they have found like
two hundred some odd messages, but they're not positive it's him,
but they went ahead and released that today at the hearing,
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and so I think once we know more for certain
with that, I think the amazing thing about this to me, though,
is this shooter's picture is taken half dozen times ninety
minutes four, but the last picture's taken of him as
six oh five. The shooting happens at six' eleven, So
at six o' five he's on the ground with a backpack.
It's a big backpack and probably the gun's in it,
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but they don't locate him. At six oh six he
gets on the roof, but the roof is of four
different buildings that are connected to each other by roofline
is to hop up and down four or five feet
at a time. But he's got to make fifty yards
on the roof from where he hops up, where they
think he hopped up. He's got to run fifty yards
with the gun, lay down and as semble it. And
he's just on the roof at six oh six and
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then he starts shot at shooting, I think at six
eleven and three seconds, So really he's got five minutes
to traverse fifty yards on the roof. People are yelling
at him, hey, got on a roof, Look got a roof.
You know. Police see him at six oh eight. I
guess they don't see the weapon, but they see him,
which means probably at six o eight he's still carrying
the backpack. But he's got to be pretty fast by
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the time he lays down at six eight or six
h nine, he has to assemble the gun and then
you know, the shots are fired at six to eleven
and he's killed fifteen minutes fifteen seconds later.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
What were the snipers? Do we know yet?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
What were the the the good guy snipers? The counter
sniper teams looking at if not the nearest roof, which
was entirely unsecured.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
They are looking in that direction. I think they're warned,
and so, you know, for people say there was no warring,
sure there was warning. At five point forty one, the
Secret Services notified that there's a suspicious individual with a rangefinder.
And to most of us, we think that that's enough
warning that they should have taken Trump off the stage.
Secret Service is pushing back and saying, well, that's kind
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of suspicious, but not enough, you know, to me, it's
obviously not enough to shoot somebody. You don't shoot somebody
the rangefinder, but somebody with the rangefinder in a big
backpack who the local people been following for ninety minutes.
Obviously the proceedings should have been stopped, and they should
have They should have located him, and they would have
gotten him, maybe before he got on the roof. But
I think they're looking towards his position because they get
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a message to look at three o'clock and three o'clocks
on a dial pointed towards where the shooter is. So
the ones you see on the roof behind President Trump
are looking in the direction of it. They don't know
he's a shooter, and they don't know he has a gun,
they're being told suspicious individual. The people on the roof
behind President Trump also can't see where he's going to
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shoot from. They're not the ones that shot him. There
were trees between him and the snipers on the roof
behind President Trump. There are snipers farther. So if President
Trump is speaking to the crowd to Donald Trump's left,
there are counter snipers from the cecart Service, maybe enough
twenty or thirty yards to President Trump left and above
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him either another barn or another high spot. They're the
ones that take the shot because they can see him
on the other side of the tree. And even with that,
you have to realize it's a pretty remarkable shot to
them because they have to do it stantaneously, and he's
hiding behind about a five inch tall aluminum at the
apex of the roof. It's not a real steep roof.
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It's fairly flat, but the apex is a little bit
of illumin siding. He's kind of down below, but he's
got to get his head up a little bit and
he's got to put his gun over the tip. But
they do it and take him out with a single shot,
which by most people, this is why I don't want
to get popped in the idea that, oh, we're just
going to beat up on the Secret Service. I think
by and large they're incredible people. This counter sniper is
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a I don't know his name, but has a long
history apparently one of the great martsmanship of being, you know,
a hero.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So yeah, Senator Paul, appreciate you being with us today.
Thank you. Senator. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
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I would say, continued investigation into what's going on there.
That's good to hear that they're going to be able
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Speaker 5 (16:22):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show a lot
of serious topics in today's show. As you would well
imagine given the testimony surrounding the Secret Service failures to
protect Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I do want to mention here.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
We're going to be joined by Joe Kanca of Fox
Sport Fox News here at the bottom of the hour.
But I have to out our good friend Jesse Kelly,
who we had dinner with last night, is not working today.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Is actually hanging out.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
He is by the pool. He's working on his tan
legitimately at the pool. Went to dinner last night. His
lovely wife Aubrey was there. You know what, she's a
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Now, I was a witness to this, to the Brussels
sprouts fiasco the first time round, and of this time.
One of the Brussels sprout's dishes was good, but it
was deep fried and had bacon.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
The other one Clay.
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To be fair, Jesse and Clay separately took photos of
the Brussels sprout dishes from dinner to prove their side
of the argument. Because one of the Brussels sprout dishes
was to look like what you would feed yeah, but
the other one looked like what you'd feed to a
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Oh man.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
We're gonna get into this and more eventually with Jesse
on the show, but I just want to point out
that he is on the wrong side of history when
it comes to Brussels. Sprout's Joe Kanca will join us
when we come back here in just a moment. He's
got a brand new book out. We'll discuss that and
more with him, and we'll continue to give the the
latest on the IDF targeting has Bolly Commanders and the
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Clay as certain as death and Texas. As the phrase
go is that the media is going to hyperventilate about
(19:06):
things that Trump says between now and the election. All Right,
there's gonna be Trump is gonna make a joke. Remember
when he made some joke about Hannibal Lecter, like I
like to have people for dinner with if Papa beans
and a kiyanti or whatever the line is from Sounds
to the Lands, And they're just like, oh my gosh,
he's making jokes about a cannibal. It's like, first of all,
he knows you got to take the cannibal stuff seriously
(19:28):
because Joe Biden's uncle was eaten by a cannibal off
of Papua New Guinea, as Joe Biden, formerly the presidential
nominee for twenty twenty four for the Democrats. You know,
Joe Biden still tears up thinking about that family member
that got eaten by the non existent incident off of
Papua New Guinea. But I think that you can just
expect the media to pretend to have no sense of humor,
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and beyond that, to freak out everything.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Here he is. I just want you to listen to this,
and we'll have.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Joe Concer react to it because he's joining us in
progress here. But here is Trump who is saying, look,
if you vote for me, I'll fix all problems so
you don't have to worry about voting again.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Play it.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
That statement is very simple. I said, vote for me,
You're not gonna have to do whatever again. It's true
because we have to get the vote out. Christians are
not known as a big voting goop. They'll vote, and
I'm explaining that to him.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You never vote this time.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Vote, I'll straighten out the country.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You won't have to vote anymore. I won't need you vote.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I mean, he's just being Trump Joe, and he's saying
that he's gonna fix all the problems. They want to
vote again. Media freaking out about this. We'll get to
your book progressively worse here in just a second. But
what do you think about that comment that they're now
New York Times main story today. I'd probably changed now
with the IDF targeting, But the main story this morning was.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Trump says, you'll there'll only be one.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
More series of votes, the end of democracy. I think
they tried playing this card buck right. I mean, guys,
it's still open to the Trump fuck. This is how
he speaks to try to fearmonger over Donald Trump nine
years and changed since he came down that escalator Massari.
It's not gonna work. What with the New York Time
should be concentrating on is Kamma Harris and her record
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though that's truly the scary stuff, right, because I've actually
compounded Sweet sixteen. If you want me to run through
it real quick, and I know you've been talking about it,
but I just can't believe that this is actually her record,
based on her own words on video not too long ago.
She wants to ban cracking. She's now backtracking from that,
not going to happen. End fossil fuels. She wants to
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the end of that, which is not a good idea
if you want to win Pennsylvania. She wants to end
all all shore drilling. She wants to abolish Arizona. Like
that very much. She wants to stop all border wall construction.
Trump wants to do the opposite. Hates remain in Mexico policy,
doesn't want to entertain that. Wants to end private health insurance.
Yet she wants to give a government run healthcare to
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illegals who are here for free. Sounds like a great,
great policy to come down on. And then also you
have one else is She co sponsored the Green New
Deal to the Tuna trillions. She thinks that biological men
should competetylogical women. She's probably part of that ball that
thinks men can actually get pregnant. She supports sanctuary cities.
We saw what happened in New York or Washington. I
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go as far as that whole plan is concerned. She
wants to pack the Supreme Court, and she wants to
mandate EV sales, which in Michigan is going to sound great.
So they could concentrate on Trump as much as they want,
where he made a very benign, trumpy comment. But that
is the story right there, those policy positions that Kamala
Harris can't run away from, how much he denies it,
because again it's all on video, it's only from a
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couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
We're talking to Joe Kancha. I'm fascinated by as you
just ran through the Kamala Harris record. Do you think
she's going to end up doing better than Biden as
we said here basically three months away from the official
election day, or do you think Biden and Kamala are
effectively going to end up with a similar number of voters.
(23:02):
Do you buy basically this Kamala enthusiasm increase or do
you think when all is said and done in about
ninety days and change, that the numbers in the outcome
is going to be very similar to if Biden had
been on the ticket.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Claire, I think it's going to be the same or
maybe even worse, because at least Biden could blame dementia
and age for the things that he said, like Buck
was mentioning earlier that the whole uncle being eaten by
Cannibal's thing, or he inherited nine percent inflation, or a
mess at the border. You can go down the list
as far as like you know, the bizarre either lies
or just the fact the guy is just Sokovar gone
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that nothing made sense with Kamala Harris. She doesn't have
that excuse. She has something broken in her brain where
if you ask her anything outside of a teleprompter, outside
of scripted remarks, just like Biden, things go south in
a hurry and he clean ups on als five, eighteen,
twenty four, and twenty nine when you say things like
she has in the past, like oh, we need to
reimagine the police, and then you juxtaposed that with the
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fact that two hundred cops have been shot this year already.
Once the record is out there. This is a right
of center country center at best. And when you have
somebody who's to the left of Bernie Sanders, these ain't
your daddy's donkeys anymore, to try to portray her somehow
as the second coming in Barack Obama, Well, Barack Obama
did have a likable personality to a certain extent, and
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he could speak extemporaneously. She has no ability to do that,
so at least electorally. Guys, I just don't see how
she resonates with steel workers in Pennsylvania, or with auto
workers in Michigan, or with anybody in Arizona when you
say you want to abolish ice, or go down the
list as far as all the things that she would
do where you wouldn't even recognize this country anymore. The
media will prop her up for a while. They're on
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a sugar high right now, because this isn't about Kamala Harris.
It's about we got rid of the old man, and
anybody else is better, and now maybe we have a chance.
But I think once that settles, we get after Labor Day,
we get her on a debate stage with Donald Trump.
I think it'll go the same way it did with
Joe Biden, except she won't have an excuse that she
has dementia.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
It sounds to me like Joe consha here of Fox
News is not officially a part of the white Dudes
for Harris campaign, which you know is a real thing.
He missed the call in. I guess they didn't send
you the zoom wing for that one, Joe. But it's
okay because you know, if you don't want to know
what can be unburdened by what has been, that's on you,
mister Conca.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
The book is progressively worse.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Why today's Democrats ain't your daddy's donkeys, Joe give Given
all that that you've seen, you know you're like me
and Clay. I mean, I think I can speak for
you in this regard. Semi obsessed or fully obsessed with
politics right watching and thinking about it all the time.
Are you worried though that despite everything we know about
Kamala and I know that she's not going to You
mentioned the demographic for example, that she won't resonate with,
(25:41):
which is like steel workers in Michigan or whatever, car
you know, auto workers, you name it, but women. They
think women might be able to deliver this for Kamala.
Is that is that something that concerns you or do
you think it's a misstep, kind of like the lawfair
against Trump was a misstep.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I think I'm thinking of twenty sixteen all over again.
And remember Hillary Clinton's campaign slogan I'm with her, which
I don't know how that improves your life if you're
an American voter. I'm with her, Okay, Now what so
I think if you just play the gender card and
the fact that Kamala Harris is maybe even more unlikable
and unauthentic than Hillary Clinton, that that could be a
problem overall. I mean, this party what they used to be.
(26:22):
I mean John F. Kennedy cut taxes during a recession,
He beefed up the military. Jimmy Carter was a pro
life Democratic president. That is unthinkable. Now. Bill Clinton was
actually a very good president. Take away Monica. He actually
worked with new Gingridge to pass balanced budget American amendments
and get budget surpluses and declared that the era of
big government is over and ended the welfare state. I
(26:42):
can agree with all of those things. Right. So that's
where the party was. And even Barack Obama was labeled
in a very sarcastic and mean way the deporter in
chief by the left because Jay Johnson, who was the
Department of Land Security secretary, actually did his job unlike
my orcis. So I think in the end, no matter
who you install here, whether it was Kamala Harris, who
it is, of course, but let's say we even was
aggression whim or anybody else. The Democratic brand is the
(27:05):
Democratic brand, and this is a radical party at this point,
and the party of elites. By the way, the forty
richest congressional districts in this country are represented by Democrats.
Talking about turning this thing completely on it's here. Well,
Donald Trump, the billionaire, is seen as the populace who
can relate to people in places like the States we
just mentioned. So yeah, I see this still being Trump's
(27:25):
race to lose. And I think again, Kamala Harris, our
only shot is the debates, and if she doesn't have
a teleprompter or anything scripted in front of her, that's
going to go south.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
In I hurry, Joe, when you look at the hearing
that we had today on the Secret Service, I'm sure
you're like both Buck and me and that we've been
looking at this so much and the complete failure just
keeps getting worse and worse. I said, it's either gross
criminal negligence or it almost feels intentional in some way.
How would you analyze what we got today and what
(27:56):
you've seen since It's crazy, it's only been seventeen or
eighteen days since Trump was nearly killed on live television,
and yet it feels like many already want to move on.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I'm not one of those people. I want to know
what happened.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Wow, guys, I'm in the same boat as you. I
at first was thinking, no, this was just incompetence, and
then I was hoping it was incompetence because the alternative
is obviously much worse. This somehow was intentional. And I
cannot get past the fact that the Secret Service had
a ninety minute heads up that there could be a
threat in that area, that they didn't secure that building,
(28:29):
and someone allowed Donald Trump to still go on that
stage instead of finding where that threat is and containing
it or killing it. And then this way, at least
you know the coast is clear. So whoever sent him
out there? I want to know why no one's been fired? Like,
how could no one be fired in this situation? So
this should be also New York Times your lead story.
It should have been for the past seventeen days, because
(28:50):
You're right, it seems like people just want to move on.
Google and Facebook are literally suppressing and censoring an iconic
shot of Trump this stuff that blood on his face
with the American flag in the background or even calling
the assassination attempt fictional. You still have Laurence O'Donnell, an
idiot on MSNBC, is still questioning whether Donald Trump was
actually shot. I mean this was he came with a millimeter.
(29:12):
I have his head blown off on national television and
we're like, oh, well, I guess the guy missed. Let's
move on. But the balls on Trump to go back
to that very location to do another rally. I mean,
you want to talk about this campaign strength versus weakness,
Trump's going back there. Biden got COVID for and it
was gone off camera for seven days, and Kamala Harris
won't take one question, not even one on her record.
(29:33):
So I think in the end, strength versus weakness, and
Trump's showing that by going back to that location. I
know I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's your third Joe Concha, Fox News contributor. The book
It is released today. Hey, congratulations, Joe progressively worse. Why
today's Democrats ain't your daddy's donkeys. I have one quick
one for you, Joe before we let you go. Yeah,
and I'm not trying to get you any hate email
with this one. People feel very passionately. But we you
(30:00):
have to because our friend Jesse Kelly is on the
hot seat on this one as well. Brussels sprouts. If
you order Brussels sprouts for the table without asking anybody
else at a steakhouse, is that a smart move? Or
are you showing shades of communism?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Communism you speak expelled from the table? Wow?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yeah, I was gonna tell everybody to buy the book.
Now I'm not sure Joe could be trusted.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Do I get my man Clay Travis over here, look
at this? Oh, we love it, Joe. We'll have you
to the next steak out. And thanks for being with us. Man,
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miss a single moment. All right, I went to a
wedding Saturday, Buck, and you were just telling me this
detail off the air. Congratulations to my cousin, Jennifer. She
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is an Alabama graduate and she married an LSU graduate.
She tied She is role tiede and he is a
Bayou Bingal And there were no fights, and so maybe
there is hope for our country after all, though people
are pointing out that it was a July wedding and
not a fall wedding season, in which case there may
be more conflict coming. But I did think this was interesting.
(33:23):
By the way, one of the speeches you'll appreciate this, Buck,
one of the speeches at the wedding, guy said he
was suspicious immediately because his brother was telling him where
she went to high school. It's like, why are you
not saying where she went to college? And so he said,
I knew as an LSU guy then that I should
be suspicious that there might be something afoot here. He
(33:45):
didn't want to say that she went to Alabama. But
if they can get along, anybody can. But I saw this.
There are now brides charging people admission prices for their wedding.
You have to buy a ticket selling tickets. New York
Post reporting on this today. A new trend of midweek
destination weddings. So think about that. Oh, you have to go.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
To take multiple you know, the Cayman Islands.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, on Wednesday, because that's when we're getting married, because
it's cheaper than doing it on a weekend brunch weddings.
So you have a wedding in the morning and then
everyone has brunch. I guess at noon this is all
just about venues and costs and everything. Or the most
controversial which Clay started with selling tickets like you're going
to a t Swift concert, but really it's so that
(34:31):
you can see Tom and Sally get hitched.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Have you ever been to a wedding that you would
buy a ticket for? I know everybody has to give
I look, monetary donations.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Not involving immediate family, in which case you're obligated to go. No,
there's never been a wedding where I was like, you
know what, I'm gonna buy a ticket to go to this.
In fact, I would do the I would pay to
not go to most of the weddings that I've been to.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I know that makes me sound like the wedding Grunch,
but you know, I've just I've been to too many weddings.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I've been to like fifty weddings in my life, and
I think I needed to be really at ten of them.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
I think, yeah, that's a good I think all of
the guys that I know I might have to go
to some second weddings, but everybody that I know everything
that has has already gotten married. I think I'm on
to the next iteration is going to be basically kid
weddings of friends.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
But as I said, you've got three boys, so as
they get older, the thing is, you're not going to
have to worry about actually you know, the whole wedding aspect.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Because I am going to end up paying for all
three of those weddings.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Okay, well, at least you'll hire you'll hire a wedding planner,
know any of the details.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
But I saw what weddings cost now outrageous. I could
like my jaw dropped. I don't know how any parent
out there can hardly afford me.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I'm going to tell you all something now, especially for
those of you who are still planning a wedding or
I don't usually say do what I do, Well, maybe
I say that, but Carrie and I did big.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Party all of our friends in New York City.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Two hundred people at the party, a big party, and
it was just a party with one toast. And you
can have that, and you can have that at you know,
your local dance hall, whatever you want, whatever you want
to do it. And then we had a church wedding for.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Immediate family only.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It was about twenty twenty five people, and then we
went out to dinner. Yeah, and we wouldn't change a
thing about it. And if I told you the cost
how low it is, you'd be like, wow, you guys
are thrifty. But I didn't want to spend. In New
York City, you get spend. I didn't want to tell
you guys on two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars on
a wedding and the blink of an eye. So we
did it at about the national average level. We're so happy.
(36:35):
So just do that, man, Clay, tell people to throw
a party for the engagement and then just have a nice,
small wedding.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
You don't need three hundred people at your wedding.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I would even suggest eloping, taking the money that you
would have spent on the wedding and putting it towards
your first residency, but that's me being an old.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Clay would use the money from the wedding to start
a media company, so that's actually that could really pay off,
or you could lose it all
Third hour, clay en Buck kicks off. Now, thanks for
being with us, everybody all across the country. Senator Ran
Paul was up on Capitol Hill during the biggest news
story really of certainly the day on the domestic front,
which is the Secret Service hearing. Senator Paul was there.
He was asking questions and he is fresh off the
floor and joining us now, Senator Ram Paul, always a
(00:22):
pleasure to have you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Sure, thanks for making the time for us.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me. Yeah, we had.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Quite the hearing.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We combined Judiciary and Homeland Security to probably twenty five
thirty senators, and we had the new head of the
Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You were there.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We were doing the show during it, so we were
pulling it on the fly, the cuts and clips and
quotes as we could. We wanted to just let you
tell everybody, Senator Paul, your biggest takeaways as somebody who's
been in this game a long time and knows what
to expect, what were the most important things.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, if you compare the new director to the old director,
there's night and day difference. She went and answered the questions.
She came only to obstruct the truth, and she was
an awful administrator, and she had never been in the job,
and I think was a political hire. This guy seems
to have been in the Secret Service for quite a while.
(01:16):
He seems like a straight shooter. He said there will
be disciplinary hearings. He's not saying who's going to be
fired or will they be fired, but he's the least
saying that are going to be disciplinary hearings, he said
in his opening added my questioning that it was not defensible.
It's indefensible to leave that rooftop open and not have
snipers on that. He says he's changed the policy. They
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don't get a choice. Now there will be Secret Service
snipers on any building. One of the things that didn't
come out in the hearing, but it comes out when
you see some of the photographs of this. The Washington County,
which is a neighboring county to Butler County, had a
sniper team there for the local police. They were three
hundred yards away on the other side. And this hasn't
been mentioned much, but they stationed cniper's three hundred yards
(02:01):
away from the stage, but then failed to station snipers
one hundred yards away. So I mean, just it was
completely ineptitude. But it's also when your job is to
protect lives, if you fail that job, it means you
can't get it again. It doesn't mean you're a bad person,
you made a terrible error, but it means you don't
have the confidence to be in that position. And so
(02:22):
I said, you know, the world wants to know there'll
be accountability, but the world also wants to know that
these people aren't going to be at the next Trump
rally guarding him, and that they're not going to be
in charge of the Democrat National Convention. And he kind
of said they weren't, but then he kind of said, well,
we can't really talk about who they are because they're
still working. It's like, well, maybe they need to be
at a desk job for a while till we figured out,
(02:43):
you know, how they could have left that roof open,
and how they let a suspicious person go ninety minutes
the gas line drones at three point fifty one in
the afternoon. He cited at least a half a dozen times,
they take pictures of him all over the place. He's
walking around the backpack in it. Within ar fifteen that
he unfolds on the route after running across four roofs,
(03:04):
being spotted by the crowd, and still nobody warns the
President to leave the stage completely. To my mom. In
Defensive one, we're.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Talking to Senator Ran Paul.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
When I hear these guys testify, whether it's the Kim
Cheetle who was fired or the new acting director, what
I really want to hear to the details you just
gave are from let's say, the sniper who took out
this shooter in the Secret Service? Will we hear testimony
from actual Secret Service agents on the ground that day
(03:38):
as opposed to kind of an elaborate game of telephone,
which is the director testifying as to what someone told him,
as opposed to hearing directly from the people on the
ground that day.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
We have a bipartisan note insisting on that. So Chairman
Peters is a Democrat from Michigan. I'm the ranking Republican
on homand Security. The letter's been signed by the two
of us, plus another Republican and another Democrat, insisting on
individual interviews from the Secret Service. Now, he said, is
hearing it's going to happen, But we don't want it
(04:11):
to happen in six months or six years. We want
it done. We gave him till August ninth. Now they
have not officially responded to that, but it acts like
it's going to happen. But what gives me some misgivings
is the Secret Service is investigating this, you know, for
possible disciplinary action. They have not interviewed any of the
local police. So it's a couple of weeks now, and
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they have not interviewed any local police. Our congressional staff
went last weekend, four different Senate officers went to Butler
County and we interviewed the local police officers. So and
we're not even you know, we're the oversight for the public,
but we're not the disciplinary committee, we're not the Secret Service,
and they haven't interviewed anybody from the local police. It
also concerns me that there's a little bit of pointing
(04:55):
fingers from the new director saying, oh, well, the Secret
Service assigned that the local police. Well, we've interviewed the
local police and they say they brought up the strategic
problem of leaving the roof unattended, And the Secret Service says,
we've got this. You do what you're told, And they
never told him to be on the roof, so it's
a little bit of he said, she said. But in
(05:16):
the end, though, it doesn't really matter who's in charge.
If you are the charge, if you're the CEO of
this battlefield, if you're in charge of safety for Butler County,
you can't do this again. You failed in your job
because you left a roof unattended with a direct line
of sight and you didn't stop the proceedings when you
had a suspicious person reported upon by multiple officers for
(05:38):
ninety minutes. How could you not have an all points
bulletin with people rushing around and getting that kid if
that had gotten him, he was on the roof at
six oh six, he's rushing and running across four roofs
to get to his shooting position. All you had to
do is get him any time between four point fifteen
when you spot him and six oh six when he
gets on the roof, and stop him because his backpackd
(06:00):
AAR fifteen and he's going to be stopped and it's
going to be foiled. And one man wouldn't have lost
his life and Donald Trump wouldn't have almost been killed.
So it's just it's a tragic comedy of errors. But
really malfeasance, and you look, it doesn't mean the person's
a bad person. They probably feel upset that they missed
this too, But it's such a profound judgment air that
(06:22):
you can't do this again and you just preclude yourself
from that kind of responsibility for a job ever again.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
So I'm glad to hear that you guys ever requested
and potentially are going to be able to talk to
the guys that were actually on the ground that day.
Would that be a public hearing, would that be a
closed hearing? What would that look like for those of
us out here who want to get the full story
of the failures that day.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I can understand not wanting to them put them up
because there is a little bit of political grandstanding where
people are yelling back and forth each other. I do
think the officers deserve more respect than that, and so
I think it should be transcribed and we should do
first private interviews that will be part of a public record,
and I think that saves them sort of. So for example,
(07:10):
the person in charge, we have the names, they won't
they're not making the names public, but we've asked for
ten specific individuals to be interviewed. We've already interviewed the
local police ourselves. We've been there. But those ten people,
I think they should get to be interviewed without people
yelling and screaming at them, and hear their stories. Compare
the different stories, because there's probably going to be different stories.
(07:30):
The local police are going to say one thing. I
think Secret Service is probably going to say another thing.
But then there are some things that really they're saying,
Oh well at six oh eight when people seem on
the roof, they never told the Secret Service until right
before the shots were fired, and it's like, well, you know,
they say, oh, they're broadcast walkie talkies don't communicate with ours,
and it's like, you know, what kind of world do
(07:51):
we live in? You could go out in a best
ube and buy two hundred Walkee talkies on the same
frequency that broadcasts out loud and say hey, why don't
you go all carry them for today? And they will
take them next week when Trump's in Las Vele, send
somebody else will It's not rocket science to figure out
how everybody could be on one channel. Simply been giving
everybody an extra device that communicates with the local broadcast.
(08:14):
But the local police chief or whoever's in charge of
the security from the local position is supposed to be
standing next to the Secret Service commander in a command post,
so when they hear the broadcast that his officers are
searching frantically and have seen someone roof. The second someone
said there's a gun a roof, that's at six o' eight,
you have three three and a half minutes still the
(08:35):
shooting starts. So you have three minutes, which doesn't sound
like a long time, but that's plenty long enough for
a broadcast message to get out to have taken Trump
off the stage. And it may be if he's just
motivated to kill Trump that he doesn't fry the shots
and kill the other people either, you know, kill the
other the local fire chief if Trump were taken down.
(08:56):
So yeah, it's inexcusable. Three minutes is a long time,
but at the same time, you know, you don't want
to denigrate the officers. I mean, the marksman sniper that
took the shooter out did it with one quick shot
within I think within fifteen seconds of the shots being fired.
But really that's why you have security those to try
to make sure you know that's done before he gets
(09:16):
a shot off.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Speaking the Senator Ram Paul of Kentucky. Senator Paul, are
are there any unanswered questions in your mind when it
comes to the shooter? I mean, we know the motivation
was to kill Donald Trump, obviously, so people talking about motivation,
but in terms of whether he had any assistance, whether
there are any other actors that played any role in
this whatsoever, anything about training, anything about social media? Are
(09:40):
there are there further unanswered questions that you're looking into
on that score? Do you think that we that you
know now with the access you have what you need
to know.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
You know, since the it's an absence of knowledge on
the social media right now. So it's not that they
haven't found much. That doesn't mean they won't find anything.
And I think the FBI is still pursuing that he
did communicate on some encrypted platforms. And you know, some
of the people who don't you want to destroy all encryption,
are like, oh, why don't we just get rid of encryption.
(10:10):
When you have a warrant, you can go to any
company that has encryption and they have to divulge the
contents of the communication. So I'm not sure I understand
the problem unless it's a company outside the US that
we don't have control of. But if it's a company
that encrypts messages within the US, they'll accept a warrant
and they should unencrypted messages and we should be able
(10:30):
to get those. But no, there's nothing really right off
hand that I know of that we're missing about motive.
It's a little surprising to most people that there wasn't
more political discussion, more motivation that the ODD today mentioned
that there is a bunch that they have found like
two hundred some odd messages, but they're not positive it's him,
but they went ahead and released that today at the hearing,
(10:52):
and so I think once we know more for certain
with that, I think the amazing thing about this to me, though,
is this shooter's picture is taken half dozen times ninety
minutes four, but the last picture's taken of him as
six oh five. The shooting happens at six' eleven, So
at six o' five he's on the ground with a backpack.
It's a big backpack and probably the gun's in it,
(11:13):
but they don't locate him. At six oh six he
gets on the roof, but the roof is of four
different buildings that are connected to each other by roofline
is to hop up and down four or five feet
at a time. But he's got to make fifty yards
on the roof from where he hops up, where they
think he hopped up. He's got to run fifty yards
with the gun, lay down and as semble it. And
he's just on the roof at six oh six and
(11:36):
then he starts shot at shooting, I think at six
eleven and three seconds, So really he's got five minutes
to traverse fifty yards on the roof. People are yelling
at him, hey, got on a roof, Look got a roof.
You know. Police see him at six oh eight. I
guess they don't see the weapon, but they see him,
which means probably at six o eight he's still carrying
the backpack. But he's got to be pretty fast by
(11:58):
the time he lays down at six eight or six
h nine, he has to assemble the gun and then
you know, the shots are fired at six to eleven
and he's killed fifteen minutes fifteen seconds later.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
What were the snipers? Do we know yet?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
What were the the the good guy snipers? The counter
sniper teams looking at if not the nearest roof, which
was entirely unsecured.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
They are looking in that direction. I think they're warned,
and so, you know, for people say there was no warring,
sure there was warning. At five point forty one, the
Secret Services notified that there's a suspicious individual with a rangefinder.
And to most of us, we think that that's enough
warning that they should have taken Trump off the stage.
Secret Service is pushing back and saying, well, that's kind
(12:45):
of suspicious, but not enough, you know, to me, it's
obviously not enough to shoot somebody. You don't shoot somebody
the rangefinder, but somebody with the rangefinder in a big
backpack who the local people been following for ninety minutes.
Obviously the proceedings should have been stopped, and they should
have They should have located him, and they would have
gotten him, maybe before he got on the roof. But
I think they're looking towards his position because they get
(13:07):
a message to look at three o'clock and three o'clocks
on a dial pointed towards where the shooter is. So
the ones you see on the roof behind President Trump
are looking in the direction of it. They don't know
he's a shooter, and they don't know he has a gun,
they're being told suspicious individual. The people on the roof
behind President Trump also can't see where he's going to
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shoot from. They're not the ones that shot him. There
were trees between him and the snipers on the roof
behind President Trump. There are snipers farther. So if President
Trump is speaking to the crowd to Donald Trump's left,
there are counter snipers from the cecart Service, maybe enough
twenty or thirty yards to President Trump left and above
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him either another barn or another high spot. They're the
ones that take the shot because they can see him
on the other side of the tree. And even with that,
you have to realize it's a pretty remarkable shot to
them because they have to do it stantaneously, and he's
hiding behind about a five inch tall aluminum at the
apex of the roof. It's not a real steep roof.
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It's fairly flat, but the apex is a little bit
of illumin siding. He's kind of down below, but he's
got to get his head up a little bit and
he's got to put his gun over the tip. But
they do it and take him out with a single shot,
which by most people, this is why I don't want
to get popped in the idea that, oh, we're just
going to beat up on the Secret Service. I think
by and large they're incredible people. This counter sniper is
(14:32):
a I don't know his name, but has a long
history apparently one of the great martsmanship of being, you know,
a hero.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So yeah, Senator Paul, appreciate you being with us today.
Thank you. Senator. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
That is Senator Ran Paul talking about the testimony blockbuster.
I would say, continued investigation into what's going on there.
That's good to hear that they're going to be able
to get the actual sniper who ended the shooter's threat.
But we need to hear from a lot more people
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Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton chuck up a win for
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Speaker 5 (16:22):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show a lot
of serious topics in today's show. As you would well
imagine given the testimony surrounding the Secret Service failures to
protect Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I do want to mention here.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
We're going to be joined by Joe Kanca of Fox
Sport Fox News here at the bottom of the hour.
But I have to out our good friend Jesse Kelly,
who we had dinner with last night, is not working today.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Is actually hanging out.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
He is by the pool. He's working on his tan
legitimately at the pool. Went to dinner last night. His
lovely wife Aubrey was there. You know what, she's a
big fan of buck Brussels sprouts. Double Brussels sprouts ordered
for the table, devoured you had some, Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Now, I was a witness to this, to the Brussels
sprouts fiasco the first time round, and of this time.
One of the Brussels sprout's dishes was good, but it
was deep fried and had bacon.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
The other one Clay.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
To be fair, Jesse and Clay separately took photos of
the Brussels sprout dishes from dinner to prove their side
of the argument. Because one of the Brussels sprout dishes
was to look like what you would feed yeah, but
the other one looked like what you'd feed to a
rabbit and not a rabbit you liked very much.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Oh man.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
We're gonna get into this and more eventually with Jesse
on the show, but I just want to point out
that he is on the wrong side of history when
it comes to Brussels. Sprout's Joe Kanca will join us
when we come back here in just a moment. He's
got a brand new book out. We'll discuss that and
more with him, and we'll continue to give the the
latest on the IDF targeting has Bolly Commanders and the
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You know one thing you can count on for sure,
Clay as certain as death and Texas. As the phrase
go is that the media is going to hyperventilate about
(19:06):
things that Trump says between now and the election. All Right,
there's gonna be Trump is gonna make a joke. Remember
when he made some joke about Hannibal Lecter, like I
like to have people for dinner with if Papa beans
and a kiyanti or whatever the line is from Sounds
to the Lands, And they're just like, oh my gosh,
he's making jokes about a cannibal. It's like, first of all,
he knows you got to take the cannibal stuff seriously
(19:28):
because Joe Biden's uncle was eaten by a cannibal off
of Papua New Guinea, as Joe Biden, formerly the presidential
nominee for twenty twenty four for the Democrats. You know,
Joe Biden still tears up thinking about that family member
that got eaten by the non existent incident off of
Papua New Guinea. But I think that you can just
expect the media to pretend to have no sense of humor,
(19:52):
and beyond that, to freak out everything.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Here he is. I just want you to listen to this,
and we'll have.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Joe Concer react to it because he's joining us in
progress here. But here is Trump who is saying, look,
if you vote for me, I'll fix all problems so
you don't have to worry about voting again.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Play it.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
That statement is very simple. I said, vote for me,
You're not gonna have to do whatever again. It's true
because we have to get the vote out. Christians are
not known as a big voting goop. They'll vote, and
I'm explaining that to him.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You never vote this time.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Vote, I'll straighten out the country.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You won't have to vote anymore. I won't need you vote.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I mean, he's just being Trump Joe, and he's saying
that he's gonna fix all the problems. They want to
vote again. Media freaking out about this. We'll get to
your book progressively worse here in just a second. But
what do you think about that comment that they're now
New York Times main story today. I'd probably changed now
with the IDF targeting, But the main story this morning was.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Trump says, you'll there'll only be one.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
More series of votes, the end of democracy. I think
they tried playing this card buck right. I mean, guys,
it's still open to the Trump fuck. This is how
he speaks to try to fearmonger over Donald Trump nine
years and changed since he came down that escalator Massari.
It's not gonna work. What with the New York Time
should be concentrating on is Kamma Harris and her record
(21:13):
though that's truly the scary stuff, right, because I've actually
compounded Sweet sixteen. If you want me to run through
it real quick, and I know you've been talking about it,
but I just can't believe that this is actually her record,
based on her own words on video not too long ago.
She wants to ban cracking. She's now backtracking from that,
not going to happen. End fossil fuels. She wants to
(21:34):
the end of that, which is not a good idea
if you want to win Pennsylvania. She wants to end
all all shore drilling. She wants to abolish Arizona. Like
that very much. She wants to stop all border wall construction.
Trump wants to do the opposite. Hates remain in Mexico policy,
doesn't want to entertain that. Wants to end private health insurance.
Yet she wants to give a government run healthcare to
(21:57):
illegals who are here for free. Sounds like a great,
great policy to come down on. And then also you
have one else is She co sponsored the Green New
Deal to the Tuna trillions. She thinks that biological men
should competetylogical women. She's probably part of that ball that
thinks men can actually get pregnant. She supports sanctuary cities.
We saw what happened in New York or Washington. I
(22:18):
go as far as that whole plan is concerned. She
wants to pack the Supreme Court, and she wants to
mandate EV sales, which in Michigan is going to sound great.
So they could concentrate on Trump as much as they want,
where he made a very benign, trumpy comment. But that
is the story right there, those policy positions that Kamala
Harris can't run away from, how much he denies it,
because again it's all on video, it's only from a
(22:39):
couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
We're talking to Joe Kancha. I'm fascinated by as you
just ran through the Kamala Harris record. Do you think
she's going to end up doing better than Biden as
we said here basically three months away from the official
election day, or do you think Biden and Kamala are
effectively going to end up with a similar number of voters.
(23:02):
Do you buy basically this Kamala enthusiasm increase or do
you think when all is said and done in about
ninety days and change, that the numbers in the outcome
is going to be very similar to if Biden had
been on the ticket.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Claire, I think it's going to be the same or
maybe even worse, because at least Biden could blame dementia
and age for the things that he said, like Buck
was mentioning earlier that the whole uncle being eaten by
Cannibal's thing, or he inherited nine percent inflation, or a
mess at the border. You can go down the list
as far as like you know, the bizarre either lies
or just the fact the guy is just Sokovar gone
(23:35):
that nothing made sense with Kamala Harris. She doesn't have
that excuse. She has something broken in her brain where
if you ask her anything outside of a teleprompter, outside
of scripted remarks, just like Biden, things go south in
a hurry and he clean ups on als five, eighteen,
twenty four, and twenty nine when you say things like
she has in the past, like oh, we need to
reimagine the police, and then you juxtaposed that with the
(23:58):
fact that two hundred cops have been shot this year already.
Once the record is out there. This is a right
of center country center at best. And when you have
somebody who's to the left of Bernie Sanders, these ain't
your daddy's donkeys anymore, to try to portray her somehow
as the second coming in Barack Obama, Well, Barack Obama
did have a likable personality to a certain extent, and
(24:18):
he could speak extemporaneously. She has no ability to do that,
so at least electorally. Guys, I just don't see how
she resonates with steel workers in Pennsylvania, or with auto
workers in Michigan, or with anybody in Arizona when you
say you want to abolish ice, or go down the
list as far as all the things that she would
do where you wouldn't even recognize this country anymore. The
media will prop her up for a while. They're on
(24:40):
a sugar high right now, because this isn't about Kamala Harris.
It's about we got rid of the old man, and
anybody else is better, and now maybe we have a chance.
But I think once that settles, we get after Labor Day,
we get her on a debate stage with Donald Trump.
I think it'll go the same way it did with
Joe Biden, except she won't have an excuse that she
has dementia.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
It sounds to me like Joe consha here of Fox
News is not officially a part of the white Dudes
for Harris campaign, which you know is a real thing.
He missed the call in. I guess they didn't send
you the zoom wing for that one, Joe. But it's
okay because you know, if you don't want to know
what can be unburdened by what has been, that's on you,
mister Conca.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
The book is progressively worse.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Why today's Democrats ain't your daddy's donkeys, Joe give Given
all that that you've seen, you know you're like me
and Clay. I mean, I think I can speak for
you in this regard. Semi obsessed or fully obsessed with
politics right watching and thinking about it all the time.
Are you worried though that despite everything we know about
Kamala and I know that she's not going to You
mentioned the demographic for example, that she won't resonate with,
(25:41):
which is like steel workers in Michigan or whatever, car
you know, auto workers, you name it, but women. They
think women might be able to deliver this for Kamala.
Is that is that something that concerns you or do
you think it's a misstep, kind of like the lawfair
against Trump was a misstep.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I think I'm thinking of twenty sixteen all over again.
And remember Hillary Clinton's campaign slogan I'm with her, which
I don't know how that improves your life if you're
an American voter. I'm with her, Okay, Now what so
I think if you just play the gender card and
the fact that Kamala Harris is maybe even more unlikable
and unauthentic than Hillary Clinton, that that could be a
problem overall. I mean, this party what they used to be.
(26:22):
I mean John F. Kennedy cut taxes during a recession,
He beefed up the military. Jimmy Carter was a pro
life Democratic president. That is unthinkable. Now. Bill Clinton was
actually a very good president. Take away Monica. He actually
worked with new Gingridge to pass balanced budget American amendments
and get budget surpluses and declared that the era of
big government is over and ended the welfare state. I
(26:42):
can agree with all of those things. Right. So that's
where the party was. And even Barack Obama was labeled
in a very sarcastic and mean way the deporter in
chief by the left because Jay Johnson, who was the
Department of Land Security secretary, actually did his job unlike
my orcis. So I think in the end, no matter
who you install here, whether it was Kamala Harris, who
it is, of course, but let's say we even was
aggression whim or anybody else. The Democratic brand is the
(27:05):
Democratic brand, and this is a radical party at this point,
and the party of elites. By the way, the forty
richest congressional districts in this country are represented by Democrats.
Talking about turning this thing completely on it's here. Well,
Donald Trump, the billionaire, is seen as the populace who
can relate to people in places like the States we
just mentioned. So yeah, I see this still being Trump's
(27:25):
race to lose. And I think again, Kamala Harris, our
only shot is the debates, and if she doesn't have
a teleprompter or anything scripted in front of her, that's
going to go south.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
In I hurry, Joe, when you look at the hearing
that we had today on the Secret Service, I'm sure
you're like both Buck and me and that we've been
looking at this so much and the complete failure just
keeps getting worse and worse. I said, it's either gross
criminal negligence or it almost feels intentional in some way.
How would you analyze what we got today and what
(27:56):
you've seen since It's crazy, it's only been seventeen or
eighteen days since Trump was nearly killed on live television,
and yet it feels like many already want to move on.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I'm not one of those people. I want to know
what happened.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Wow, guys, I'm in the same boat as you. I
at first was thinking, no, this was just incompetence, and
then I was hoping it was incompetence because the alternative
is obviously much worse. This somehow was intentional. And I
cannot get past the fact that the Secret Service had
a ninety minute heads up that there could be a
threat in that area, that they didn't secure that building,
(28:29):
and someone allowed Donald Trump to still go on that
stage instead of finding where that threat is and containing
it or killing it. And then this way, at least
you know the coast is clear. So whoever sent him
out there? I want to know why no one's been fired? Like,
how could no one be fired in this situation? So
this should be also New York Times your lead story.
It should have been for the past seventeen days, because
(28:50):
You're right, it seems like people just want to move on.
Google and Facebook are literally suppressing and censoring an iconic
shot of Trump this stuff that blood on his face
with the American flag in the background or even calling
the assassination attempt fictional. You still have Laurence O'Donnell, an
idiot on MSNBC, is still questioning whether Donald Trump was
actually shot. I mean this was he came with a millimeter.
(29:12):
I have his head blown off on national television and
we're like, oh, well, I guess the guy missed. Let's
move on. But the balls on Trump to go back
to that very location to do another rally. I mean,
you want to talk about this campaign strength versus weakness,
Trump's going back there. Biden got COVID for and it
was gone off camera for seven days, and Kamala Harris
won't take one question, not even one on her record.
(29:33):
So I think in the end, strength versus weakness, and
Trump's showing that by going back to that location. I
know I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's your third Joe Concha, Fox News contributor. The book
It is released today. Hey, congratulations, Joe progressively worse. Why
today's Democrats ain't your daddy's donkeys. I have one quick
one for you, Joe before we let you go. Yeah,
and I'm not trying to get you any hate email
with this one. People feel very passionately. But we you
(30:00):
have to because our friend Jesse Kelly is on the
hot seat on this one as well. Brussels sprouts. If
you order Brussels sprouts for the table without asking anybody
else at a steakhouse, is that a smart move? Or
are you showing shades of communism?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Communism you speak expelled from the table? Wow?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yeah, I was gonna tell everybody to buy the book.
Now I'm not sure Joe could be trusted.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Do I get my man Clay Travis over here, look
at this? Oh, we love it, Joe. We'll have you
to the next steak out. And thanks for being with us. Man,
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miss a single moment. All right, I went to a
wedding Saturday, Buck, and you were just telling me this
detail off the air. Congratulations to my cousin, Jennifer. She
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is an Alabama graduate and she married an LSU graduate.
She tied She is role tiede and he is a
Bayou Bingal And there were no fights, and so maybe
there is hope for our country after all, though people
are pointing out that it was a July wedding and
not a fall wedding season, in which case there may
be more conflict coming. But I did think this was interesting.
(33:23):
By the way, one of the speeches you'll appreciate this, Buck,
one of the speeches at the wedding, guy said he
was suspicious immediately because his brother was telling him where
she went to high school. It's like, why are you
not saying where she went to college? And so he said,
I knew as an LSU guy then that I should
be suspicious that there might be something afoot here. He
(33:45):
didn't want to say that she went to Alabama. But
if they can get along, anybody can. But I saw this.
There are now brides charging people admission prices for their wedding.
You have to buy a ticket selling tickets. New York
Post reporting on this today. A new trend of midweek
destination weddings. So think about that. Oh, you have to go.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
To take multiple you know, the Cayman Islands.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, on Wednesday, because that's when we're getting married, because
it's cheaper than doing it on a weekend brunch weddings.
So you have a wedding in the morning and then
everyone has brunch. I guess at noon this is all
just about venues and costs and everything. Or the most
controversial which Clay started with selling tickets like you're going
to a t Swift concert, but really it's so that
(34:31):
you can see Tom and Sally get hitched.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Have you ever been to a wedding that you would
buy a ticket for? I know everybody has to give
I look, monetary donations.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Not involving immediate family, in which case you're obligated to go. No,
there's never been a wedding where I was like, you
know what, I'm gonna buy a ticket to go to this.
In fact, I would do the I would pay to
not go to most of the weddings that I've been to.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I know that makes me sound like the wedding Grunch,
but you know, I've just I've been to too many weddings.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I've been to like fifty weddings in my life, and
I think I needed to be really at ten of them.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
I think, yeah, that's a good I think all of
the guys that I know I might have to go
to some second weddings, but everybody that I know everything
that has has already gotten married. I think I'm on
to the next iteration is going to be basically kid
weddings of friends.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
But as I said, you've got three boys, so as
they get older, the thing is, you're not going to
have to worry about actually you know, the whole wedding aspect.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Because I am going to end up paying for all
three of those weddings.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Okay, well, at least you'll hire you'll hire a wedding planner,
know any of the details.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
But I saw what weddings cost now outrageous. I could
like my jaw dropped. I don't know how any parent
out there can hardly afford me.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I'm going to tell you all something now, especially for
those of you who are still planning a wedding or
I don't usually say do what I do, Well, maybe
I say that, but Carrie and I did big.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Party all of our friends in New York City.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Two hundred people at the party, a big party, and
it was just a party with one toast. And you
can have that, and you can have that at you know,
your local dance hall, whatever you want, whatever you want
to do it. And then we had a church wedding for.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Immediate family only.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It was about twenty twenty five people, and then we
went out to dinner. Yeah, and we wouldn't change a
thing about it. And if I told you the cost
how low it is, you'd be like, wow, you guys
are thrifty. But I didn't want to spend. In New
York City, you get spend. I didn't want to tell
you guys on two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars on
a wedding and the blink of an eye. So we
did it at about the national average level. We're so happy.
(36:35):
So just do that, man, Clay, tell people to throw
a party for the engagement and then just have a nice,
small wedding.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
You don't need three hundred people at your wedding.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I would even suggest eloping, taking the money that you
would have spent on the wedding and putting it towards
your first residency, but that's me being an old.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Clay would use the money from the wedding to start
a media company, so that's actually that could really pay off,
or you could lose it all
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