July 31, 2024 • 61 mins
Kamala, the open border zealot. JD Vance. Middle East escalation. Investigative journalist, Julie Kelly.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show gets going right now. Buck gonna be solo today.
That's me. I don't know why I said the third person,
but I did. Clay is traveling, He's gonna be taking
the show tomorrow. I'll be traveling. So we're doing a
little bit of leap frog on the radio hosting duties.
(00:22):
But we got a lot to talk about today, a busy,
busy news day, the specter of an expanded war in
the Middle East after Israel kills a Hamas leader in Tehran,
so in Iran's capital city, there was a target assassination
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of a Hamas leader and then Ismael Hania for those
of you who follow the Middle East. He's been a
top bad guy for a long time, and also an
airstrike in Beirut. He's really say they got a senior
level Hesbal, a bad guy who was involved in sending rockets,
including the rocket that killed twelve a lot of them
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children on this soccer field just in the last week.
So we're watching that closely to see where it's all going.
Also here at home, a lot happening in this condensed
because that's really what it is presidential election. This is
going to be much shorter.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I should note that our friend Julie Kelly will be
joining us in the third hour to talk about the
investigation of the Secret Service and specifically a DHS Inspector
General appointed by Trump who is looking into things, a
number of things. January sixth stuff Secret Service massive failure
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in taking action to stop the almost assassin of Donald Trump.
So we'll get into all of that. Oh, the national
debt hit thirty five trillion dollars. Yay, we're number one. Yeah,
we got a really big national debt. Now it's huge,
(02:08):
thirty five trillion dollars. I wonder when this will become
an issue that we approach with the seriousness that it deserves.
I wonder what it would take for us to recognize
what's really going on here, which is honestly a debt
burden for future generations that really amounts to intergenerational theft,
(02:31):
crowding out of the current and future productivity of the
marketplace in order to pay for previous promises. This is
a bad, bad place for the country to be financially.
But until people really care, nothing changes. So I don't
want to spend too much time on it because I'll
say the national debt is really bad, and people on
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the right will say, yes, I agree, it's terrible. And
I say, great, we need to change in titlements and
they'll say you be quiet, not allowed. Okay, well you know,
then we keep going. Then we keep going. That's what
ends up happening. The political situation with Kamala Harris is
is getting a boy. It's going to be a close race. Everybody.
(03:16):
I was hoping it wouldn't be here. I was hoping
this would not be how this plays out, But it
is going to be I think pretty close. We have
the latest Susquehanna polling that says Harris ahead four points
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in Pennsylvania. We'll talk more later about how Pennsylvania's Governor
Shapiro maybe and is favored currently in the betting markets
to be the vice president for Kamala Harris. I still
think Mark Kelly is very high up on that. I
think it's Hammer, it's Shapiro. I still would I still
(04:01):
would probably go with Mark Kelly of the two. We'll
discuss why Mark Kelly was on. You know, I was
watching Morning Joe this morning and putting down my copy
of Kamala's way, the biography of hers that I have.
Now I'm becoming a Kamala Harris expert. I will have
you know in real time. I even have her autobiography,
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which was sold out because of the run on this.
Now no one read this thing before, but now she's
the presidential candidate. So we've all the journals, all the
media folks got to read. It was like out of
copies on Amazon. So anyway, I've got that coming. So
I'm reading the Kamala books. So I'll be a Kamala expert.
I know. This is the dedication that I have for
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all of you. Just think about that for a moment,
like I could be reading Thucydides instead, I'm reading the
Kamala Harris autobiography. Yay, but that's where I am. I
got to make sure I know what's going on here.
She is four points ahead Mark in Pennsylvania according to
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according to one poll. I know it's just one poll,
but they're going to point to this now. They're trying
to create a sense of Kamala momentum. And then there's
Mark Kelly on Morning Joe This Morning. We'll get to this.
Joe Biden was supposed to be before he stepped down,
(05:24):
And I really think we can say was shoved aside.
He wasn't. He didn't step down. Joe Biden did not
look at the numbers and look at things and say,
you know what, I'm going to do what's best for
the party. No, he decided that he would do what
he had to do because the party bosses came to
him and said or else. But he was going to
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be the DNC in Chicago closing speaker. Isn't it amazing? Wait,
history doesn't repeat, but at rhymes right, nineteen sixty eight
Chicago DNC convention. Here we are party in disarray, a
lot of lunatics running around, of course Democrats, and it's
going to be in Chicago. But Biden was going to
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be the DNC closing speaker as the as the party's nominee.
And the latest on this is that apparently he's speaking
on the convention's opening night to talk about what a
great job his White House has done before he is
once again shoved decide so that the focus can be
entirely on Kamala Harris. Now it turns out that Kamala
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Harris is the only candidate to qualify for the Democrat
Party's presidential nominating ballot, according to the DNC. So the
fix is in, or perhaps it has been fixed in
Kamala's favor. Her VP pick is coming up next Tuesday.
We're going to be told when Kamala's VP or who
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the VP will be, which I think is very interesting.
But there's something else these ads that have started to
come out here. You know, I understand that in politics
you're going to sometimes feel like the other side is lying,
but when it comes to the Harris campaign, this is
the most overt gas lighting I can remember in the
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American political sphere, for certainly for a presidential election. You know,
when Obama was running in two thousand and eight, I
knew what we were getting into. I knew he was
a radical. I knew that they were covering up stuff.
But he's he was somebody who didn't have a long
history in public life, and so they were able to
largely get away with the fabrication of Obama. In fact,
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his two books, which did he write these books, his
two autobiographies. I always said that's a huge red flag
if you're a guy who's not yet even fifty and
you have two autobiographies. Wow, but his two autobiographies. But
it was all a construct and the Democrats were very
savvy about it. They found somebody who was a good
spokesperson for the construct of Obamaism and they were able
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to make that work and he was president for eight years.
As we know, the problem they have with Kamala Harris
is that she has been a senator, a now vice
president and has said things in an error when a
lot more is captured also and put on the internet.
You know, so we have endless Kamal eclipse where she
is talking about amazing things like being unburdened by what
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has been and we know this, we can see it,
we can hear it. So when they try to rewrite
the history, they're doing so with full knowledge that you
and I know they are liars. And if we're wondering
how much or how strong they are gonna, how strong
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are they're going to pursue this tactic. They are claiming
that Kamala Harris, the failed borders are who we will
all remember. Sat down with Lester Holt of ABC News
and remember this. We should pull this club, guys for later,
just through just a little trip down memory lane. He said, Kamala,
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have you been to the border, And she said, we've
been to the border, and he had to look at
her like, I mean, no, lady, you haven't actually like wa, sorry,
like there's a lot I could do for you here,
but you haven't been to the border. So why haven't
you been to the border. And then she said something
like you know, well I've been to Europe and everybody
was just wow, you know, this is this is the
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person that this is like the third VP of the
HR department at some you know, middle tier company that's
making parts for printers or something, and you're just amazed
that this person has a job where you work. You know, Wow,
this person's in charge of something. I'm yeah. That was
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Kamala's That was Kamala's moment. Uh. She is now claiming
though after saying she wasn't the borders are. Remember that
they tried to run away from that. That was a
few days ago. Now it's that she is really tough
on the border. I wanted you to hear this is
Kamala Harris her campaign and add about how good she
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is on border issues. This is cut three play on
the border.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The choice is simple, Kamala Harris supports increasing the number
of border patrol agents. Donald Trump blocked a bill to
increase the number of border patrol agents. Kamala Harris supports
investing in new technology to block fetanyl from entering the country.
Donald Trump blocked funding for technology to block fentanyl from
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entering the country. Kamala Harris supports spending more money to
stop human traffickers. Donald Trump blocked money to stop human traffickers.
Kamala Harris prosecuted trains national gang members and got them
sentenced to prison. Trump is trying to avoid being sent.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's to prison. There's two bad Let's let's okay. Notice
how everything they say about Kamala Harris is she wanted
to spend money in unspecified ways that can be vaguely
associated with something at the border. That's the best they
can do for her, because we all know that when
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Kamala Harris was the borders are what did she do?
She flew to Central America and gave the American people
from these countries that she was visiting lectures about how
we have to deal with the root causes in those
countries that are making people come to this country because
it is our fault, that's right. It is our fault
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that people somehow everyone wants to come to America, but
America does all these bad things all the time, according
to Democrats, and they never see that as in any way. Uh.
In conflict these two thoughts. Everyon wants to be in America,
but America is so bad and horrible. Uh. The other
thing is when you talk about resources for the border
or more money, that means nothing. The problem is there
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are too many illegals coming in because Democrats want them
to come in. And we know this because well everything,
but also there have been plenty of illegals who have
showed up at the border and said I'm here because
I want some of that Biden amnesty that I know
is coming. They've more or less said just that showed
up with Biden. They've truly showed up with Biden t
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shirts on. That is a thing that has happened because
they know that the Democrats want to import the third World.
They want to import people from poor developing countries with
no English language skills, with limited, if any education in
any language, so that they will become dependent on state resources,
enlarge the bureaucracy, and create a massive and undefeatable unbeatable,
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better word, real word, unbeatable pool of voters going forward
to effectively change the demographics of this country for all
time and change therefore the politics and the nature of
this country for all time. That is the plan. We
know it. That they've said it. They're very open about it, actually,
And to say that you want to put more money
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forward and that that somehow deals with this. No, if
you won't deport people, it doesn't matter. We have a
system right now that they will refuse to address. It's
even more complicated that they could do a lot more
at the border, they just choose not to. They could
turn people away, and they could deport people, and they
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would change the incentives. And if they change the incentives,
then you would have fewer legals. But they won't. But
they won't even tell you that this is the park.
That's so gross, that's so wrong. Kamala Harris is effectively
an open borders zelot who is now ninety days give
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or take before the election, running as a border hawk
who wants to secure the border. And you and I
can sit here and roll our eyes and say, what
just what mendacity, what an absurdity, But you know what
they think if they can just fool enough people some
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of the time, they can be in charge all of
the time. That's the plan. You got to hear what
they say about Trump on the border too. I mean
it's the the ads that that they're running on on
Trump and uh it's anyway, well, you know what, Actually
I want to switch this around. We'll do the Trump
ad on Kamala, which will take a little a little
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trip to uh Realville. You know, We'll take a little
trip to uh what Rush used to call the one
and only realvill We'll go. We'll go there in just
a second, because I think we need that after that
absurd add Yeah, Kamala Harris all about border security. You
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Speaker 4 (16:31):
You can handle the truth, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The truth here is that the people that are so
worried about JD. Vance on the Trump ticket, I want
to try my best to call any of those concerns
first and foremost, I said JD would be the vice president.
But it's not like JD is, you know, my twin brother,
or something like I'm not popular saying well, because you
(16:57):
said he was gonna be the guy, you know, it's
like I can't be objective about what's going on here. No, No,
I think that JD. Vance is excellent as the vice
president for a number of for a number of reasons.
But before I get to that, let me get to
the attacks on him. First off, to say to say
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that JD. Vance is anti women or anti immigrant, I mean,
this is just they're gonna say this about anyone. I
need everyone to understand this. It doesn't matter. You could
have if you had Tim Scott as Trump's VP. Okay,
you would still have I assure you, you would still
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have Democrats telling everybody that Trump is running on like
a racist, you know, white supremacist platform, whatever, it doesn't matter,
And they would say that Tim Scott was being helpful
to Trump's racism. It doesn't matter. These are the attack
lines they're going to use because this is what the
Democrats always do and this is what they have to
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rely on. They're not gonna make arguments that make sense
to normal mentally, emotionally, spiritually stable individuals. They're gonna just
go after the buzzwords. They're gonna mobilize the brainwashed left
wing masses and just do everything in their power to
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avoid the fact that they're putting forward a ticket here
against Trump and Vance. That's just gonna be, I mean,
an absurdity, quite honestly. And the notion of Kamala Harris
running the United States is absurd, as I've been discussing
and telling you. But on the Jdvents thing, I mean,
you've got over at the view Anna Navarro, who I'd
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be so fascinated if she's probably whenever you're a Republican,
a former Republican who sells out everything that you ever
pretended to believe in as an adult. Whenever you turn
on all your friends, turn on all your beliefs. Then
you go on TV and say, oh, I'm independent. Now,
you know that's what Morning Joe does. I was watching
Morning Joe this morning. You know He's like, Oh, I'm
an independent. I just in march to the beat of
(19:07):
my own drum.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Hey, and Ann Navarro is over there saying that JD
Vance is this is cut twelve is dumb and weird
play this.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
So I think we're being really kind and gracious by
just calling you weird and frankly, JDA Vance just dumb.
Vance is pretty weird. He has said more than once
that he thinks people without children that that's bad and
must be punished, and people with children must be rewarded.
He wants people with children to have more voting rights,
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he wants people with children to pay less taxes.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But here's what I want to tell him.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yes, there are two types of women in this world.
There are women who have no children because they are
free to choose so, and there are women like me
who have no children.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Because we couldn't.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
And how dare you try to tell me that I
am lesser than.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
All Right, let's talk about this. First of all, the
notion that jd Vance is dumb, I'm just going to
say it. I mean jd Vance had nothing to go
on but his own brains and hard work. He didn't
come from some advantaged family, or an advantage demographic, or
in the college admissions process, an advantaged skin color. In fact,
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he's from a disadvantaged background in all of those respects
and is now a vice presidential candidate. Nobody was ever
waving look. I can tell you from my own experience
applying to college and jobs. When when you're the white
I mean, I know, I look like Jadvance and I
could probably be related. When you're the white guy from wherever, like,
no one's excited to, you know, wave you through. If
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you're a mediocre, okay, you've got to be able to
prove to everybody why you belong there at any lead institution.
And so he was at el Law School. For a
non legacy white guy to get into ill law school
is quite a feat. The proposition that he is dumb
is an absurdity. Anna Navara is not a smart person.
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She's on TV because she represents what the Democrats want
to hear out of a person of Hispanic heritage. That
is it and to say that Jadvan, but that's even
you know, put that all you know that already to
say to lie about him, as she's saying to lie
about him and said that women should be punished for
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not having kids. This is not true, this is not reality.
He didn't say this. They are making stuff up about him.
And you know, there's just no way around this other
than for everyone to understand whoever the Trump vice president
was going to be was going to be attacked as
the worst person ever. You have to remember they've thrown
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so much against Trump that they know it doesn't register
anymore vance because he Trump's VP is a fresh target.
They haven't thrown OPO out against him, they haven't been
paying attention to him, and they're desperately trying to define
him as early as they can and as dishonestly as
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they can, because they're effectively running a ninety day campaign.
I mean, early voting is going to start in what
couple of months. You know, we're going to be an
election day. I know it feels like because we're talking
about this ticket, the Kamala ticket, for the first time.
Although as you know, and someone came out me last
night and said Buck you did say if it wasn't Biden,
it would absolutely be Kamala. I'm just saying that is true. However,
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it may have gone down officially with the Biden not
being the guy all the way. I did say, well,
it's one hundred percent going to be Kamala if it's
not Biden, because that's why you have a vice president.
The whole role a vice president is to be ready
in case of And this is also why I think
the Vance ticket or Vance's role in the ticket is good.
I don't think vice presides matter very much in an election.
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I don't think people vote based on it. I have
never voted for a president caring about who the vice
president was. Was I supposed to be blown away by
Mike Pence? Was I supposed to think that Paul Ryan
was the great Conservative fighter of the future. I mean,
you know, go back and look at this stuff. Dick
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Cheney I was really young. Back to David dick Cheney,
I was like, h I don't know that guy. He
seems okay. You vote for the top of the ticket,
and really for most people, they're just voting for the
party and for the platform. And if you want to
get even deeper, into it. Most people vote based upon
how they feel casting that vote for that, you know,
in that election, for that party or that person, right,
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So it's really a self expression. You know, I'm voting
for Republicans because I love America, believe in the constitution,
believe in the rule of law, hate socialism, hate communism, right,
I mean, these are pretty straightforward. Democrats vote for Democrat
candidates a lot of the time because they think it's
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what a good person does. It's what the cool people do,
what the celebrities do, what the women's rights people or
the pro minority people do or whatever. Right, But that's
really what drives more of a voting behavior than anything else.
Very rarely, especially when you get down into people who
could go either way, who are low propensity, who are
swing voters. Are they saying, well, because of this policy
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or that policy, I will or will not, you know,
cast my ballot for this president. That's unusual, that's pretty rare.
But I think that JD. Vance as a vice president
is important because Trump is going to be eighty while
he's in office. I mean, he is an older guy,
and it's possible that for a period of time. Let's
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just say that Trump might have to have an operation.
I know he's fit as a fiddle, he looks great,
but you know, if you have to this like a
hip replacement or something, going to have a long rehab,
maybe for six weeks, he's he's incapacitated. I don't know.
You have a vice president for that reason. The vice president, remember,
it used to be the person that came in second place.
So this idea, you know that was in the That
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was the original approach in the United States, right, It was, oh,
well you were you got the second most vote, so
like you get to be vice president now. But it
turns out I don't think the vice president matters very
much for the ticket because I'm gonta people saying, do
you think it's gonna cost Trump? It's not gonna cost Trump.
That's the that's the chirping from the media out there,
getting in your ears, Oh it's gonna cost them so much.
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What do you think, Nikki Haley, they wouldn't have attacked
my my word? You know you think that if they
give give me the vice president that they wouldn't have
gone after And I'll give you somebody who's entirely ineffective.
And I'd also say this. The fact that they hate
vance so much and have to lie about him so
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much tells you a lot. They're not hitting him. The
things they're saying about are not true. When Anna Navara
went after him and said that he has said that
women should be punished for not having children, he when
he talks about this, explicitly says, I'm not putting words
in his mouth. I'm not covering for him. He says
in the same speech that they're pulling this audio from
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where he talked about the cat ladies, right, and look,
the cat ladies are at catch all. I know lots
of ladies that have plenty of kids, and they have
plenty of cats, right, So you know it's this is
not I remember we even had a few people right
again who were sad because we've talked about I talked
about like the blue haired anarchist psychos. I don't mean
blue hair is in aged person, you know. I mean
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blue hair is in dyed like you know, either magenta
or or you know, see blue or whatever, you know,
ocean spray blue like, because you see a lot of that.
By the way, I've met some cool people that have
crazy hair colors too. It's just a generalized way of
talking about a group of identity and ideology of the left.
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But when Jade Vance talked about the women stuff, because
I've had all these people come to me, I'm almost like,
am I the Vance whisper. I don't even know the guy.
I've interviewed him like twice. You know, I don't know
if he well, he'd probably picked me out of a lineup.
But the guy doesn't know me at all. I don't
know him at all. I just know of his work
and have been following his career a bit, and people
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are reaching out to me. Oh buck, I'm so worried
about what Jade Van's going to do this ticket, Like stop.
I'm the one who's watching Morning Joe, and I'm not
worried about it at all, because this is what they do.
Anybody who's attached to Trump is the worst person ever,
must be destroyed, and they're gonna lie about. But he
explicitly said in these comments that everyone's getting all spun
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up about. He says, I am not talking about people
who are unable to have children or who just never
reached a point in their life where it was possible
for him to have children. He's talking about people who
actively think that having children is a waste of time
or even worse as a general proposition, or even worse,
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don't want to have kids because of climate change, because
of their CO two footprint. That is insane, and Kamala
Harris is down with that. The Democrat Party is pushing
that more and more. The Democrat Party is deciding that
they're perfectly fine with people going to bed at night,
little kids going to bed at night worried about the
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future because climate change is coming for us. It's like
the zombie apocalypse, except you know, they think it's really
gonna happen, and it's gonna because the temperature change is
one degree celsius. Oh my gosh, that's what's going on.
So just I just need everybody, you know, in South
and South Florida and Miami. I think everyone would say, tranquilo, tranquilo.
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It's fine. Jadie Vance is good. He's a smart guy.
The base likes him. He's an American success story. He's
high IQ. He's a person of high integrity. All right,
he's impressive. Trump and him get along. He'll be useful.
Everything's going to be cool. Don't allow them the left,
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the commies, Morning Joe CNN New York Times to allow
them to get in your head and start to psych
you out. That's what they're hoping to do. Right now,
we stay the course, We stay focused and make sure
that anybody who is capable of seeing reality sees the
reality that Kamala Harris is a deeply unimpressive, not very
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(32:15):
you go read, and she's got a piece up at
clayanbuck dot com right now, Democrats versus the man who
could get to the bottom of the Trump shooting. Julie,
great to have you with us, as always.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Paybuck, thanks so much for having me on.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Okay, so for a lot of people, yesterday's testimony on
Capitol Hill, you know, we had Senator Ran Paul on
and it was it was helpful because he gave us
the most up to date timeline of the verified information.
But even he knows there's no accountability. I mean, he
agrees there's no accountability. There's no real change. That feels
(32:52):
like is underway, feels like they're slow rolling this. But
your piece here talks about a Trump appointed Inspector General,
Joseph Kufar. Tell everybody about this DHS inspector general and
how you think this could play into finding out what
really happened with that catastrophic Secret Service failure and the
attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So, Joseph KAfari was appointed by Donald Trump as the
Inspector General for the Department of Homeland Security. Of course,
the Secret Service is under the DHS, and he has
been investigating multiple scandals at the DHS and Secret Service,
including the events of January sixth, we're told, and my
(33:33):
piece kind of details this. We are told that that
report has been on Alejandro Majorcus's desk since April. He
is refusing to release it, and he is, we think,
because he's going to uncover or at least tell the public. Finally,
why all those text messages belonging to Secret Service officials,
(33:57):
including Kim Cheadle, by the way, who resigned as head
of the Secret Service last week? Why were they deleted
from the fifth and sixth of January twenty twenty one.
They were deleted at the end of January twenty twenty
one under the Biden administration. This is something that Joseph
KAfari has been looking into and will finally maybe find
(34:18):
out why those were purged and what maybe they said.
Also the scandal of the pipe bomb outside of the
DMC on January sixth, the Secret Service was there because,
of course Kamala Harris inexplicably left the capital and went
to DNC headquarters. Were told a pipe bomb was planted
the night before. We as you know, reported about Secret
(34:42):
Service agents not detecting it until about one oh seven
that day and then evacuating her about ten minutes later.
So myorcis is refusing to make this public. I've also
been told Buck that even if he does, there will
be major pieces of it that are adapted. So this
comes out of very an opportune time, not just for
the Secret Service, but for Kamala Harris, who has never
(35:04):
answered why she left the capital as a city US
senator by the way, on January sixth and went to
the DMC. She's never discussed her near death experience with
this alleged pipe bomb, so this will raise questions for
her at another and opportune time. But we're the book.
The Democrats and the media have been going after a KAfari,
(35:27):
trying to discredit him as these investigations are underway. So
there's something really weird happening there, and they've stonewalled his
investigation now doing the report and even making threats now
that his inquiries into July thirteenth, he's opened to investigations
into the Secret Service, that they will stonewall him on
(35:49):
those investigations as well. So that's why he must be
doing something right. She's got all of these enemies working
against them.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Well, in your piece, you say that they've been trying
to remove him, which I can imagine even the dastardly
Democrats know that removing an Inspector General from within DHS
who's looking at the sensitive areas would require a little
bit of maneuvering, you know. I mean, I'm not saying
they won't just brute force kick him out if they can,
but they're probably trying to find some justification to, if
(36:20):
not remove him entirely, certainly to slow him down and
make him less effective. But on specifically the attempted assassination
of Trump. We had members of Congress up on Capitol
Hill yesterday, right, it was a joint Senate joint Senate
committees that were questioning the now acting head of the
(36:41):
Secret Service. But it feels a bit like we all
know where this is going, especially if I know, but
Kamala Harris were to win this election, right, I mean,
it feels like the chances of us getting the truth
out of this are low regardless, But if Kamala wins
the election, given the Democrats proclivity for slow rolling and
(37:03):
sidelining actual accountability, we're working against the clock here, Julia,
in a few ways to get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
We absolutely are. And I think that that was the
frustration expressed yesterday by Senator Paul, Senator how Lee, Senator Johnson,
the Republican senators because they are thinking the same what
you just said. They can just run out the clock.
Hopefully Kamala Harris wins, in their view, and then this
will all be covered up, just like so much about
(37:33):
January sixth was covered up, and we're just learning new
things after Republicans took the House and representatives very louder Milk,
who's kind of uncovering all of this new material and
footage that we've never seen before. So this is their hope.
But look Kim Cheatle and Ronald Rowe, who testified yesterday,
who unbelievably conducted himself worse than Kim Cheatle did last week.
(37:59):
They both were on Protective Services the Protective Services detail
on January sixth. Their text messages also are missing, So
this should raise all sorts of red flags and the
comparison's box. If we were told that people had weapons
outside of the Ellipse and they were walking around Washington,
(38:21):
d C. In that vicinity, as the JA six Committee
claims and other law enforcement officials, why did the Secret
Service let Donald Trump take the stage of the Ellipse
on January sixth if he was in danger? If they
had intelligence beforehand days before that there could be violence
that day, why did they let the President speak outside?
(38:42):
Sort of the same questions were asking about July thirteenth
that no one seems to really answer. Certainly no one
seeing hold accountable of the Secret Service. So was it
negligence and competence on both of those events or was
it something more sinister? And when you listen to these
people testify, you see their ties. Democrats. Kim Cheetle and
(39:05):
Round Rowe both tipes to Joe Biden h in a
political capacity. So you know, this is what makes Americans
sort of nervous, thinking that there's something worse a foot
here than just negligence and incompetence.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Were speaking of Julie Kelly declassified on substack is where
you can find her work day in and day out
on this issue, and Julie, it's it's remarkable here we
are we're talking about. It's been a crazy summer in politics.
There's no question about that. We've had the Joe Biden
internal Democrat coup, you know, shoving the old man out
(39:43):
basically from running in this election after he said he
would be defiantly and I know you you were part
of You're part of Buck Island. It was sad. We
thought it was Julie. We were so close. We were
so close. I'm telling you, Biden, if you just didn't debate,
he was going to make it all the way through.
And I know people think that sounds crazy now, but
that was the plan. Everybody was on board on the
(40:04):
Democrat side for that plan. It's been an absolutely crazy summer.
We aren't even talking anymore. Just in June, right, we
got the Supreme Court to rule on presidential immunity, send
it back down to the courts. Where are you on,
as it's almost August? Here is the Democrat law fair
campaign against Trump for the purposes of this election effectively neutralized?
(40:29):
Or are you still thinking that there could be something
that pops up here to change the game before people
cast their votes.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Well, I mean, we're still going to see what happens
in Washington. Obviously, Judge Cannon rules earlier this month that
the appointment of Jack Smith is unconstitutional, that's being appealed,
but that those proceedings are over. She dismissed that classified
documents indictment in Florida, So that's really going nowhere in
the near term. But the Washington case, the January sixth
(41:01):
indictment the Jacksmith brought in DC under Judge Tanya Chuckkin,
the Supreme Court basically kicked the immunity question back to her.
She was the one who authored the groundbreaking historical opinion
that former presidents can be held criminally liable for their
conduct and office. The Supreme Court basically came back and
(41:24):
created three different categories. If it's official acts, he is
immune from prosecution. If it's outside they sort of said
this outer perimeter of their duties vents that would be
up to the courts to decide, and of course if
it was in a personal capacity, he could be charged.
This is going to be picked back to her. So
(41:45):
will she hold more hearings on this? She never did
a hearing on this. She just authored her opinion and
that was that. Will she hold hearings and try to
restart that indictment? I think she'll do whatever she possibly can.
She's Obama appointee. She has made visceral anti Trump statements
in court in j six proceedings, so she could restart that.
(42:09):
So well, I'll keep an eye on that. That's really
the only case that we'll be going anywhere. The Georgia case,
of course, is on appeal for Saniel Willis's conflict. And
then you know we have the New York case. That
sentencing is scheduled now for September. So for the most part,
buck the law fair is dead. It's hard to see
anything of substance moving forward before the election. But you know,
(42:34):
who knows where what they'll come up with next. And
even if Trump wins the Washington proceedings, the Jacksmith, I
don't think they're going to give that up until you
know eleven fifty nine am on January twentieth, twenty twenty five.
Even if he wins, I don't think that this DOJ
will give up trying to prosecute him and put him
(42:57):
on trial.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
And what are your acts expectations for the New York City?
I mean, you know, there's this whole Kamala is the
prosecutor to prosecute the case against the felon in the
election thing. They're pushing that really hard. Technically, Trump was
found guilty. We've talked about it at length. S over
knows how you feel about it. I feel about it.
I mean the whole thing was absurd, in a mockery
(43:21):
of justice in every respect in New York City. But
he's supposed to be sentenced in September. What do you
think is going to happen there?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
So this is a judge Jan Marshon, This is the
Elvin Bragg case. As you know when your listeners know,
based on the immunity ruling. Juan Marshon, Trump was supposed
to be sentenced earlier this month. He kicked that to September,
so they kind of work out the immunity issue. I'm
not really sure how the Supreme Court immunity decision will
impact this case. But we'll see what the lawyer's file
(43:54):
in this. So will he sentenced him to jail even
orders of this law fair think that that's unlikely that
he will send him to any jail time for this
record conviction. Even if he does, he won't be taken
into immediate custody. They will give him a recording date.
(44:15):
But you know, one Marshon should be nowhere near this.
I just filed this on my subject this week. His
daughter Lauren, who runs this Democrat Tide consulting firm. She
has raised it almost thirteen million dollars box since in
the first six months of this year for her consulting firm,
including eight million dollars from Adam Shipp. Her client list
(44:38):
looks like a Trump enemy's list. So and this is
more almost double than what she made the same time
in twenty twenty two during the last general election cycle.
So this has been very profitable for the Marshawn family.
So I'm suspecting they might ask for another refuse emotion
based on how much money has done has made off
(45:01):
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in that.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Case, Julie Kelly's going to stay on it. Everybody go
check her out at declassified on substack you could subscribe Julie.
Always good to have you all. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Thanks Buck.
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Speaker 1 (47:03):
Get to like ten eleven women. Hey everybody, welcome back
to Clay and Buck. And look. The truth here is
that the people that are so worried about JD vance
on the Trump ticket. I want to try my best
(47:23):
to call any of those concerns. First and foremost, I
said JD would be the vice president. But it's not
like jd is you know, my twin brother or something
like I'm not po poplar saying well, because you said
he was going to be the guy, you know, it's
like I can't be objective about what's going on here. No, No,
I think that jd. Vance is excellent as the vice
(47:47):
president for a number of for a number of reasons.
But before I get to that, let me get to
the attacks on him. First off, to say to say
that jd Vance is anti women or anti immigrant, I mean,
this is just they're gonna say this about anyone. I
need everyone to understand this. It doesn't matter. You could
(48:10):
have if you had Tim Scott as Trump's VP. Okay,
you would still have, I assure you, you would still
have Democrats telling everybody that Trump is running on like
a racist, you know, white supremacist platform, whatever, it doesn't matter,
and they would say that Tim Scott was being helpful
(48:30):
to Trump's racism. It doesn't matter. These are the attack
lines they're going to use because this is what the
Democrats always do, and this is what they have to
rely on. They're not gonna make arguments that make sense
to normal mentally, emotionally, spiritually stable individuals. They're gonna just
(48:52):
go after the buzzwords. They're gonna mobilize the brainwashed left
wing masses and just do everything in their power to
avoid the fact that they're putting forward a ticket here
against Trump and Vance. That's just gonna be, I mean
an absurdity, quite honestly. And the notion of Kamala Harris
(49:14):
running the United States is absurd, as I've been discussing
and telling you. But on the JD Events thing, I mean,
you've got over at the view Anna Navarro, who I'd
be so fascinating if she's probably whenever you're a Republican,
a former Republican who sells out everything that you ever
pretended to believe in as an adult, whenever you turn
(49:36):
on all your friends, turn on all your beliefs, then
you go on TV and say I'm an independent. Now
you know that's what Morning Joe does. I was watching
Morning Joe this morning. You know He's like, oh, I'm
an independent. I just in march to the beat of
my own drum, you know. Hey, and and A Navarro
is over there saying that JD. Vance is this is
cut twelve is dumb and weird. Play this.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
So I think we're being really and gracious by just
calling you weird, and frankly, Jdevans just dumb. Vans is
pretty weird. He has said more than once that he
thinks people without children that that's bad and must be punished,
and people with children must be rewarded. He wants people
with children to have more voting rights, he wants people
(50:20):
with children to pay less taxes. But here's what I
want to tell him, Yes, there are two types of
women in this world. There are women who have no
children because they are free to choose so, and there
are women like me who have no children because we couldn't.
And how dare you try to tell me that I
am lesser than.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
All Right, let's talk about this. First of all, the
notion that JD. Evans is dumb, I'm just going to
say it. I mean, Jdevans had nothing to go on
but his own brains and hard work. He didn't come
from some advantaged family or a dan demographic or in
the college admissions process, an advantaged skin color. In fact,
(51:05):
he's from a disadvantaged background in all of those respects,
and is now a vice presidential candidate. Nobody was ever waving. Look,
I can tell you from my own experience planet college
and jobs. When when you're the white I mean, I
know I look like Jade Vans and I could probably
be related. When you're the white guy from wherever, like,
no one's excited to you know, wave you through. If
(51:26):
you're a mediocre, okay, you've got to be able to
prove to everybody why you belong there at any leit institution.
And so he was at el Law School. For a
non legacy white guy to get into ill law school
is quite a feat. The the proposition that he is
dumb is an absurdity. An Navarro is not a smart person.
(51:47):
She's on TV because she represents what the Democrats want
to hear out of a person of Hispanic heritage, that
is it. And to say that Jadvan, but that's even
you know, put that all you know that already to
say to lie about him, as she's saying, to lie
about him and say that women should be punished for
(52:08):
not having kids. This is not true, This is not reality.
He didn't say this. They are making stuff up about him.
And you know, there's just no way around this other
than for everyone to understand whoever the Trump vice president
was going to be was going to be attacked as
the worst person ever. You have to remember they've thrown
(52:32):
so much against Trump that they know it doesn't register anymore.
Vance because he's Trump's VP, is a fresh target. They
haven't thrown OPO out against him, they haven't been paying
attention to him, and they're desperately trying to define him
as early as they can and as dishonestly as they can,
(52:56):
because they're effectively running a ninety day campaign. I mean,
early voting is going to start in what a couple
of months. You know, we're going to be an election day.
I know it feels like because we're talking about this ticket,
the Kamala ticket for the first time. Although as you know,
and someone came out with me last night and said, Buck,
you did say if it wasn't Biden, it would absolutely
be Kamala. I'm just saying that is true. However, it
(53:19):
may have gone down officially with the Biden not being
the guy all the way. I did say, well, it's
one hundred percent going to be Kamla, but it's not Biden,
because that's why you have a vice president. The whole
role a vice president is to be ready in case
of And this is also why I think the Vance
ticket or Vance's role in the ticket is good. I
don't think vice presidents matter very much in an election.
(53:42):
I don't think people vote based on it. I have
never voted for a president caring about who the vice
president was. Was I supposed to be blown away by
Mike Pence? Was I supposed to think that Paul Ryan
was the great Conservative fighter of the future. I mean,
you know, go back and look at this stuff. Dick Cheney,
(54:03):
I was really young, back to David dick Cheney. I
was like, h I don't know that guy. He seems okay.
You vote for the top of the ticket. And really
for most people, they're just voting for the party and
for the platform. And if you want to get even
deeper into it, most people vote based upon how they
feel casting that vote for that, you know, in that election,
(54:23):
for that party or that person. Right, So it's really
a self expression. You know, I'm voting for Republicans because
I love America, believe in the constitution, believe in the
rule of law, hate socialism, hate communism, right, I mean,
these are pretty straightforward things. Democrats vote for Democrat candidates
(54:44):
a lot of the time because they think it's what
a good person does, it's what the cool people do,
what the celebrities do, what the women's rights people or
the pro minority people do or whatever. Right, But that's
really what drives more of a voting behavior than very rarely,
especially when you get down into people who could go
(55:05):
either way, who are low propensity, who are swing voters.
Are they saying, well, because of this policy or that policy,
I will or will not, you know, cas my valid
for this president. That's unusual, that's pretty rare. But I
think that JD. Vance as a vice president is important
because Trump is going to be eighty while he's in office.
(55:27):
I mean, he is an older guy, and it's possible
that for a period of time, let's just say that
Trump might have to have an operation. I know, he's
fit as a fiddle. He looks great, but you know,
if you have this like a hip replacement or something,
and it's going to have a long rehab, maybe for
six weeks, he's he's incapacitated. I don't know, you have
a vice president for that reason. The vice president, remember,
(55:47):
it used to be the person that came in second place.
So this idea you know that was in the That
was the original approach in the United States, right, It was, oh,
well you were you got the second most vote, so
like you get to be vice president. But it turns
out I don't think the vice president matters very much
for the ticket because I'm Gonta. People say, do you
think it's gonna cost Trump? It's not gonna cost Trump.
(56:09):
That's the chirping from the media out there, getting in
your ears. Oh it's gonna cost them so much. What
do you think, Nikki Haley? They wouldn't have attacked my
mind word? You know, you think that if they give
me the vice president that they wouldn't have gone after
And I'll give you somebody who's entirely ineffective. And I'd
also say this, the fact that they hate Vance so
(56:33):
much and have to lie about him so much tells
you a lot. They're not hitting him. The things they're
saying about him are not true. When Anna and Navara
went after him and said that he has said that
women should be punished for not having children, he when
he talks about this, explicitly says, I'm not putting words
in his mouth. I'm not covering for him. He says
(56:55):
in the same speech that they're pulling this audio from
where he talked about the cat ladies. Right. I'm look,
the cat ladies are a catch all. I know lots
of ladies that have plenty of kids and they have
plenty of cats, right, So you know it's this is
not I remember we even had a few people right
again who were sad because we've talked about I talked
about like the blue haired anarchist psychos. I don't mean
(57:15):
blue hair is in aged person, you know, I mean
blue hairs in dyed like you know, either magenta or
or you know, see blue or whatever, you know, ocean
spray blue like, because you see a lot of that.
By the way, I've met some cool people that have
crazy hair colors too. It's just a generalized way of
(57:38):
talking about a group of identity and ideology of the left.
But when jad Vance talked about the women stuff, because
I've had all these people come to me, I'm alwayst like,
am I the Vance whisper? I don't even know the
guy I've interviewed on like twice. Uh, you know, I
don't know if he well, I mean he probably picked
me out of a lineup, but the guy doesn't know
me at all. I don't know him at all. I
(57:59):
just know of his work and have been following his
career a bit, and people are reaching out to me.
Oh buck, I'm so worried about what jade Van's gonna
do this ticket. I'm like, stop, I'm the one who's
watching Morning Joe, and I'm not worried about it at all,
because this is what they do. Anybody who's attached to
Trump is the worst person ever, must be destroyed, and
(58:21):
they're gonna lie about. But he explicitly said in these
comments that everyone's getting all spun up about. He says,
I am not talking about people who are unable to
have children or who just never reached a point in
their life where it was possible for having to have children.
He's talking about people who actively think that having children
(58:44):
is a waste of time, or even worse as a
general proposition, or even worse, don't want to have kids
because of climate change, because of their CO two footprint.
That is insane, and Kamala Harris is down with that.
Democrat Party is pushing that more and more. The Democrat
Party is deciding that they're perfectly fine with people going
(59:07):
to bed at night, little kids going to bed at night,
worried about the future because climate change is coming for us.
It's like the zombie apocalypse, except you know, they think
it's really gonna happen, and it's gonna because the temperature
change is one degree celsius. Oh my gosh, that's what's
going on. So just I just need everybody, you know,
(59:29):
in South and South Florida and Miami. I think everyone
would say, tranquilo, tranquilo. It's fine. Jennie Vance is good.
He's a smart guy. The base likes him. He's an
American success story. He's high IQ, he's a a person
of high integrity. All right, he's impressive. Trump and him
(59:52):
get along. He'll be useful. Everything's going to be cool.
Don't allow them, the Left, the Kammis Morning Joe, CNN
New York Times. Don't allow them to get in your
head and start to psych you out. That's what they're
hoping to do. Right now, we stay the course, We
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of seeing reality sees the reality that Kamala Harris is
a deeply unimpressive, not very bright social climber who somehow
is now all the Democrats have as their next hope
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Welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show gets going right now. Buck gonna be solo today.
That's me. I don't know why I said the third person,
but I did. Clay is traveling, He's gonna be taking
the show tomorrow. I'll be traveling. So we're doing a
little bit of leap frog on the radio hosting duties.
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But we got a lot to talk about today, a busy,
busy news day, the specter of an expanded war in
the Middle East after Israel kills a Hamas leader in Tehran,
so in Iran's capital city, there was a target assassination
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of a Hamas leader and then Ismael Hania for those
of you who follow the Middle East. He's been a
top bad guy for a long time, and also an
airstrike in Beirut. He's really say they got a senior
level Hesbal, a bad guy who was involved in sending rockets,
including the rocket that killed twelve a lot of them
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children on this soccer field just in the last week.
So we're watching that closely to see where it's all going.
Also here at home, a lot happening in this condensed
because that's really what it is presidential election. This is
going to be much shorter.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I should note that our friend Julie Kelly will be
joining us in the third hour to talk about the
investigation of the Secret Service and specifically a DHS Inspector
General appointed by Trump who is looking into things, a
number of things. January sixth stuff Secret Service massive failure
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in taking action to stop the almost assassin of Donald Trump.
So we'll get into all of that. Oh, the national
debt hit thirty five trillion dollars. Yay, we're number one. Yeah,
we got a really big national debt. Now it's huge,
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thirty five trillion dollars. I wonder when this will become
an issue that we approach with the seriousness that it deserves.
I wonder what it would take for us to recognize
what's really going on here, which is honestly a debt
burden for future generations that really amounts to intergenerational theft,
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crowding out of the current and future productivity of the
marketplace in order to pay for previous promises. This is
a bad, bad place for the country to be financially.
But until people really care, nothing changes. So I don't
want to spend too much time on it because I'll
say the national debt is really bad, and people on
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the right will say, yes, I agree, it's terrible. And
I say, great, we need to change in titlements and
they'll say you be quiet, not allowed. Okay, well you know,
then we keep going. Then we keep going. That's what
ends up happening. The political situation with Kamala Harris is
is getting a boy. It's going to be a close race. Everybody.
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I was hoping it wouldn't be here. I was hoping
this would not be how this plays out, But it
is going to be I think pretty close. We have
the latest Susquehanna polling that says Harris ahead four points
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in Pennsylvania. We'll talk more later about how Pennsylvania's Governor
Shapiro maybe and is favored currently in the betting markets
to be the vice president for Kamala Harris. I still
think Mark Kelly is very high up on that. I
think it's Hammer, it's Shapiro. I still would I still
(04:01):
would probably go with Mark Kelly of the two. We'll
discuss why Mark Kelly was on. You know, I was
watching Morning Joe this morning and putting down my copy
of Kamala's way, the biography of hers that I have.
Now I'm becoming a Kamala Harris expert. I will have
you know in real time. I even have her autobiography,
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which was sold out because of the run on this.
Now no one read this thing before, but now she's
the presidential candidate. So we've all the journals, all the
media folks got to read. It was like out of
copies on Amazon. So anyway, I've got that coming. So
I'm reading the Kamala books. So I'll be a Kamala expert.
I know. This is the dedication that I have for
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all of you. Just think about that for a moment,
like I could be reading Thucydides instead, I'm reading the
Kamala Harris autobiography. Yay, but that's where I am. I
got to make sure I know what's going on here.
She is four points ahead Mark in Pennsylvania according to
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according to one poll. I know it's just one poll,
but they're going to point to this now. They're trying
to create a sense of Kamala momentum. And then there's
Mark Kelly on Morning Joe This Morning. We'll get to this.
Joe Biden was supposed to be before he stepped down,
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And I really think we can say was shoved aside.
He wasn't. He didn't step down. Joe Biden did not
look at the numbers and look at things and say,
you know what, I'm going to do what's best for
the party. No, he decided that he would do what
he had to do because the party bosses came to
him and said or else. But he was going to
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be the DNC in Chicago closing speaker. Isn't it amazing? Wait,
history doesn't repeat, but at rhymes right, nineteen sixty eight
Chicago DNC convention. Here we are party in disarray, a
lot of lunatics running around, of course Democrats, and it's
going to be in Chicago. But Biden was going to
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be the DNC closing speaker as the as the party's nominee.
And the latest on this is that apparently he's speaking
on the convention's opening night to talk about what a
great job his White House has done before he is
once again shoved decide so that the focus can be
entirely on Kamala Harris. Now it turns out that Kamala
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Harris is the only candidate to qualify for the Democrat
Party's presidential nominating ballot, according to the DNC. So the
fix is in, or perhaps it has been fixed in
Kamala's favor. Her VP pick is coming up next Tuesday.
We're going to be told when Kamala's VP or who
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the VP will be, which I think is very interesting.
But there's something else these ads that have started to
come out here. You know, I understand that in politics
you're going to sometimes feel like the other side is lying,
but when it comes to the Harris campaign, this is
the most overt gas lighting I can remember in the
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American political sphere, for certainly for a presidential election. You know,
when Obama was running in two thousand and eight, I
knew what we were getting into. I knew he was
a radical. I knew that they were covering up stuff.
But he's he was somebody who didn't have a long
history in public life, and so they were able to
largely get away with the fabrication of Obama. In fact,
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his two books, which did he write these books, his
two autobiographies. I always said that's a huge red flag
if you're a guy who's not yet even fifty and
you have two autobiographies. Wow, but his two autobiographies. But
it was all a construct and the Democrats were very
savvy about it. They found somebody who was a good
spokesperson for the construct of Obamaism and they were able
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to make that work and he was president for eight years.
As we know, the problem they have with Kamala Harris
is that she has been a senator, a now vice
president and has said things in an error when a
lot more is captured also and put on the internet.
You know, so we have endless Kamal eclipse where she
is talking about amazing things like being unburdened by what
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has been and we know this, we can see it,
we can hear it. So when they try to rewrite
the history, they're doing so with full knowledge that you
and I know they are liars. And if we're wondering
how much or how strong they are gonna, how strong
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are they're going to pursue this tactic. They are claiming
that Kamala Harris, the failed borders are who we will
all remember. Sat down with Lester Holt of ABC News
and remember this. We should pull this club, guys for later,
just through just a little trip down memory lane. He said, Kamala,
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have you been to the border, And she said, we've
been to the border, and he had to look at
her like, I mean, no, lady, you haven't actually like wa, sorry,
like there's a lot I could do for you here,
but you haven't been to the border. So why haven't
you been to the border. And then she said something
like you know, well I've been to Europe and everybody
was just wow, you know, this is this is the
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person that this is like the third VP of the
HR department at some you know, middle tier company that's
making parts for printers or something, and you're just amazed
that this person has a job where you work. You know, Wow,
this person's in charge of something. I'm yeah. That was
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Kamala's That was Kamala's moment. Uh. She is now claiming
though after saying she wasn't the borders are. Remember that
they tried to run away from that. That was a
few days ago. Now it's that she is really tough
on the border. I wanted you to hear this is
Kamala Harris her campaign and add about how good she
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is on border issues. This is cut three play on
the border.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The choice is simple, Kamala Harris supports increasing the number
of border patrol agents. Donald Trump blocked a bill to
increase the number of border patrol agents. Kamala Harris supports
investing in new technology to block fetanyl from entering the country.
Donald Trump blocked funding for technology to block fentanyl from
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entering the country. Kamala Harris supports spending more money to
stop human traffickers. Donald Trump blocked money to stop human traffickers.
Kamala Harris prosecuted trains national gang members and got them
sentenced to prison. Trump is trying to avoid being sent.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's to prison. There's two bad Let's let's okay. Notice
how everything they say about Kamala Harris is she wanted
to spend money in unspecified ways that can be vaguely
associated with something at the border. That's the best they
can do for her, because we all know that when
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Kamala Harris was the borders are what did she do?
She flew to Central America and gave the American people
from these countries that she was visiting lectures about how
we have to deal with the root causes in those
countries that are making people come to this country because
it is our fault, that's right. It is our fault
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that people somehow everyone wants to come to America, but
America does all these bad things all the time, according
to Democrats, and they never see that as in any way. Uh.
In conflict these two thoughts. Everyon wants to be in America,
but America is so bad and horrible. Uh. The other
thing is when you talk about resources for the border
or more money, that means nothing. The problem is there
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are too many illegals coming in because Democrats want them
to come in. And we know this because well everything,
but also there have been plenty of illegals who have
showed up at the border and said I'm here because
I want some of that Biden amnesty that I know
is coming. They've more or less said just that showed
up with Biden. They've truly showed up with Biden t
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shirts on. That is a thing that has happened because
they know that the Democrats want to import the third World.
They want to import people from poor developing countries with
no English language skills, with limited, if any education in
any language, so that they will become dependent on state resources,
enlarge the bureaucracy, and create a massive and undefeatable unbeatable,
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better word, real word, unbeatable pool of voters going forward
to effectively change the demographics of this country for all
time and change therefore the politics and the nature of
this country for all time. That is the plan. We
know it. That they've said it. They're very open about it, actually,
And to say that you want to put more money
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forward and that that somehow deals with this. No, if
you won't deport people, it doesn't matter. We have a
system right now that they will refuse to address. It's
even more complicated that they could do a lot more
at the border, they just choose not to. They could
turn people away, and they could deport people, and they
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would change the incentives. And if they change the incentives,
then you would have fewer legals. But they won't. But
they won't even tell you that this is the park.
That's so gross, that's so wrong. Kamala Harris is effectively
an open borders zelot who is now ninety days give
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or take before the election, running as a border hawk
who wants to secure the border. And you and I
can sit here and roll our eyes and say, what
just what mendacity, what an absurdity, But you know what
they think if they can just fool enough people some
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of the time, they can be in charge all of
the time. That's the plan. You got to hear what
they say about Trump on the border too. I mean
it's the the ads that that they're running on on
Trump and uh it's anyway, well, you know what, Actually
I want to switch this around. We'll do the Trump
ad on Kamala, which will take a little a little
(14:44):
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trip to uh what Rush used to call the one
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a second, because I think we need that after that
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You can handle the truth, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The truth here is that the people that are so
worried about JD. Vance on the Trump ticket, I want
to try my best to call any of those concerns
first and foremost, I said JD would be the vice president.
But it's not like JD is, you know, my twin brother,
or something like I'm not popular saying well, because you
(16:57):
said he was gonna be the guy, you know, it's
like I can't be objective about what's going on here. No, No,
I think that JD. Vance is excellent as the vice
president for a number of for a number of reasons.
But before I get to that, let me get to
the attacks on him. First off, to say to say
(17:18):
that JD. Vance is anti women or anti immigrant, I mean,
this is just they're gonna say this about anyone. I
need everyone to understand this. It doesn't matter. You could
have if you had Tim Scott as Trump's VP. Okay,
you would still have I assure you, you would still
(17:39):
have Democrats telling everybody that Trump is running on like
a racist, you know, white supremacist platform, whatever, it doesn't matter,
And they would say that Tim Scott was being helpful
to Trump's racism. It doesn't matter. These are the attack
lines they're going to use because this is what the
Democrats always do and this is what they have to
(18:03):
rely on. They're not gonna make arguments that make sense
to normal mentally, emotionally, spiritually stable individuals. They're gonna just
go after the buzzwords. They're gonna mobilize the brainwashed left
wing masses and just do everything in their power to
(18:23):
avoid the fact that they're putting forward a ticket here
against Trump and Vance. That's just gonna be, I mean,
an absurdity, quite honestly. And the notion of Kamala Harris
running the United States is absurd, as I've been discussing
and telling you. But on the Jdvents thing, I mean,
you've got over at the view Anna Navarro, who I'd
(18:47):
be so fascinated if she's probably whenever you're a Republican,
a former Republican who sells out everything that you ever
pretended to believe in as an adult. Whenever you turn
on all your friends, turn on all your beliefs. Then
you go on TV and say, oh, I'm independent. Now,
you know that's what Morning Joe does. I was watching
Morning Joe this morning. You know He's like, Oh, I'm
an independent. I just in march to the beat of
(19:07):
my own drum.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Hey, and Ann Navarro is over there saying that JD
Vance is this is cut twelve is dumb and weird
play this.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
So I think we're being really kind and gracious by
just calling you weird and frankly, JDA Vance just dumb.
Vance is pretty weird. He has said more than once
that he thinks people without children that that's bad and
must be punished, and people with children must be rewarded.
He wants people with children to have more voting rights,
(19:39):
he wants people with children to pay less taxes.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But here's what I want to tell him.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yes, there are two types of women in this world.
There are women who have no children because they are
free to choose so, and there are women like me
who have no children.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Because we couldn't.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
And how dare you try to tell me that I
am lesser than.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
All Right, let's talk about this. First of all, the
notion that jd Vance is dumb, I'm just going to
say it. I mean jd Vance had nothing to go
on but his own brains and hard work. He didn't
come from some advantaged family, or an advantage demographic, or
in the college admissions process, an advantaged skin color. In fact,
(20:25):
he's from a disadvantaged background in all of those respects
and is now a vice presidential candidate. Nobody was ever
waving look. I can tell you from my own experience
applying to college and jobs. When when you're the white
I mean, I know, I look like Jadvance and I
could probably be related. When you're the white guy from wherever, like,
no one's excited to, you know, wave you through. If
(20:47):
you're a mediocre, okay, you've got to be able to
prove to everybody why you belong there at any lead institution.
And so he was at el Law School. For a
non legacy white guy to get into ill law school
is quite a feat. The proposition that he is dumb
is an absurdity. Anna Navara is not a smart person.
(21:07):
She's on TV because she represents what the Democrats want
to hear out of a person of Hispanic heritage. That
is it and to say that Jadvan, but that's even
you know, put that all you know that already to
say to lie about him, as she's saying to lie
about him and said that women should be punished for
(21:29):
not having kids. This is not true, this is not reality.
He didn't say this. They are making stuff up about him.
And you know, there's just no way around this other
than for everyone to understand whoever the Trump vice president
was going to be was going to be attacked as
the worst person ever. You have to remember they've thrown
(21:52):
so much against Trump that they know it doesn't register
anymore vance because he Trump's VP is a fresh target.
They haven't thrown OPO out against him, they haven't been
paying attention to him, and they're desperately trying to define
him as early as they can and as dishonestly as
(22:16):
they can, because they're effectively running a ninety day campaign.
I mean, early voting is going to start in what
couple of months. You know, we're going to be an
election day. I know it feels like because we're talking
about this ticket, the Kamala ticket, for the first time.
Although as you know, and someone came out me last
night and said Buck you did say if it wasn't Biden,
it would absolutely be Kamala. I'm just saying that is true. However,
(22:39):
it may have gone down officially with the Biden not
being the guy all the way. I did say, well,
it's one hundred percent going to be Kamala if it's
not Biden, because that's why you have a vice president.
The whole role a vice president is to be ready
in case of And this is also why I think
the Vance ticket or Vance's role in the ticket is good.
I don't think vice presides matter very much in an election.
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I don't think people vote based on it. I have
never voted for a president caring about who the vice
president was. Was I supposed to be blown away by
Mike Pence? Was I supposed to think that Paul Ryan
was the great Conservative fighter of the future. I mean,
you know, go back and look at this stuff. Dick
(23:23):
Cheney I was really young. Back to David dick Cheney,
I was like, h I don't know that guy. He
seems okay. You vote for the top of the ticket,
and really for most people, they're just voting for the
party and for the platform. And if you want to
get even deeper, into it. Most people vote based upon
how they feel casting that vote for that, you know,
in that election, for that party or that person, right,
(23:45):
So it's really a self expression. You know, I'm voting
for Republicans because I love America, believe in the constitution,
believe in the rule of law, hate socialism, hate communism, right,
I mean, these are pretty straightforward. Democrats vote for Democrat
candidates a lot of the time because they think it's
(24:07):
what a good person does. It's what the cool people do,
what the celebrities do, what the women's rights people or
the pro minority people do or whatever. Right, But that's
really what drives more of a voting behavior than anything else.
Very rarely, especially when you get down into people who
could go either way, who are low propensity, who are
swing voters. Are they saying, well, because of this policy
(24:31):
or that policy, I will or will not, you know,
cast my ballot for this president. That's unusual, that's pretty rare.
But I think that JD. Vance as a vice president
is important because Trump is going to be eighty while
he's in office. I mean, he is an older guy,
and it's possible that for a period of time. Let's
(24:52):
just say that Trump might have to have an operation.
I know he's fit as a fiddle, he looks great,
but you know, if you have to this like a
hip replacement or something, going to have a long rehab,
maybe for six weeks, he's he's incapacitated. I don't know.
You have a vice president for that reason. The vice president, remember,
it used to be the person that came in second place.
So this idea, you know that was in the That
(25:13):
was the original approach in the United States, right, It was, oh,
well you were you got the second most vote, so
like you get to be vice president now. But it
turns out I don't think the vice president matters very
much for the ticket because I'm gonta people saying, do
you think it's gonna cost Trump? It's not gonna cost Trump.
That's the that's the chirping from the media out there,
getting in your ears, Oh it's gonna cost them so much.
(25:35):
What do you think, Nikki Haley, they wouldn't have attacked
my my word? You know you think that if they
give give me the vice president that they wouldn't have
gone after And I'll give you somebody who's entirely ineffective.
And I'd also say this. The fact that they hate
vance so much and have to lie about him so
(25:56):
much tells you a lot. They're not hitting him. The
things they're saying about are not true. When Anna Navara
went after him and said that he has said that
women should be punished for not having children, he when
he talks about this, explicitly says, I'm not putting words
in his mouth. I'm not covering for him. He says
in the same speech that they're pulling this audio from
(26:18):
where he talked about the cat ladies, right, and look,
the cat ladies are at catch all. I know lots
of ladies that have plenty of kids, and they have
plenty of cats, right, So you know it's this is
not I remember we even had a few people right
again who were sad because we've talked about I talked
about like the blue haired anarchist psychos. I don't mean
blue hair is in aged person, you know. I mean
(26:41):
blue hair is in dyed like you know, either magenta
or or you know, see blue or whatever, you know,
ocean spray blue like, because you see a lot of that.
By the way, I've met some cool people that have
crazy hair colors too. It's just a generalized way of
talking about a group of identity and ideology of the left.
(27:04):
But when Jade Vance talked about the women stuff, because
I've had all these people come to me, I'm almost like,
am I the Vance whisper. I don't even know the guy.
I've interviewed him like twice. You know, I don't know
if he well, he'd probably picked me out of a lineup.
But the guy doesn't know me at all. I don't
know him at all. I just know of his work
and have been following his career a bit, and people
(27:25):
are reaching out to me. Oh buck, I'm so worried
about what Jade Van's going to do this ticket, Like stop.
I'm the one who's watching Morning Joe, and I'm not
worried about it at all, because this is what they do.
Anybody who's attached to Trump is the worst person ever,
must be destroyed, and they're gonna lie about. But he
explicitly said in these comments that everyone's getting all spun
(27:47):
up about. He says, I am not talking about people
who are unable to have children or who just never
reached a point in their life where it was possible
for him to have children. He's talking about people who
actively think that having children is a waste of time
or even worse as a general proposition, or even worse,
(28:10):
don't want to have kids because of climate change, because
of their CO two footprint. That is insane, and Kamala
Harris is down with that. The Democrat Party is pushing
that more and more. The Democrat Party is deciding that
they're perfectly fine with people going to bed at night,
little kids going to bed at night worried about the
(28:31):
future because climate change is coming for us. It's like
the zombie apocalypse, except you know, they think it's really
gonna happen, and it's gonna because the temperature change is
one degree celsius. Oh my gosh, that's what's going on.
So just I just need everybody, you know, in South
and South Florida and Miami. I think everyone would say, tranquilo, tranquilo.
(28:56):
It's fine. Jadie Vance is good. He's a smart guy.
The base likes him. He's an American success story. He's
high IQ. He's a person of high integrity. All right,
he's impressive. Trump and him get along. He'll be useful.
Everything's going to be cool. Don't allow them the left,
(29:20):
the commies, Morning Joe CNN New York Times to allow
them to get in your head and start to psych
you out. That's what they're hoping to do. Right now,
we stay the course, We stay focused and make sure
that anybody who is capable of seeing reality sees the
reality that Kamala Harris is a deeply unimpressive, not very
(29:45):
bright social climber who somehow is now all the Democrats
have as their next hope for keeping power. And that
is the truth. And we should not get all spun
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(32:15):
you go read, and she's got a piece up at
clayanbuck dot com right now, Democrats versus the man who
could get to the bottom of the Trump shooting. Julie,
great to have you with us, as always.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Paybuck, thanks so much for having me on.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Okay, so for a lot of people, yesterday's testimony on
Capitol Hill, you know, we had Senator Ran Paul on
and it was it was helpful because he gave us
the most up to date timeline of the verified information.
But even he knows there's no accountability. I mean, he
agrees there's no accountability. There's no real change. That feels
(32:52):
like is underway, feels like they're slow rolling this. But
your piece here talks about a Trump appointed Inspector General,
Joseph Kufar. Tell everybody about this DHS inspector general and
how you think this could play into finding out what
really happened with that catastrophic Secret Service failure and the
attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So, Joseph KAfari was appointed by Donald Trump as the
Inspector General for the Department of Homeland Security. Of course,
the Secret Service is under the DHS, and he has
been investigating multiple scandals at the DHS and Secret Service,
including the events of January sixth, we're told, and my
(33:33):
piece kind of details this. We are told that that
report has been on Alejandro Majorcus's desk since April. He
is refusing to release it, and he is, we think,
because he's going to uncover or at least tell the public. Finally,
why all those text messages belonging to Secret Service officials,
(33:57):
including Kim Cheadle, by the way, who resigned as head
of the Secret Service last week? Why were they deleted
from the fifth and sixth of January twenty twenty one.
They were deleted at the end of January twenty twenty
one under the Biden administration. This is something that Joseph
KAfari has been looking into and will finally maybe find
(34:18):
out why those were purged and what maybe they said.
Also the scandal of the pipe bomb outside of the
DMC on January sixth, the Secret Service was there because,
of course Kamala Harris inexplicably left the capital and went
to DNC headquarters. Were told a pipe bomb was planted
the night before. We as you know, reported about Secret
(34:42):
Service agents not detecting it until about one oh seven
that day and then evacuating her about ten minutes later.
So myorcis is refusing to make this public. I've also
been told Buck that even if he does, there will
be major pieces of it that are adapted. So this
comes out of very an opportune time, not just for
the Secret Service, but for Kamala Harris, who has never
(35:04):
answered why she left the capital as a city US
senator by the way, on January sixth and went to
the DMC. She's never discussed her near death experience with
this alleged pipe bomb, so this will raise questions for
her at another and opportune time. But we're the book.
The Democrats and the media have been going after a KAfari,
(35:27):
trying to discredit him as these investigations are underway. So
there's something really weird happening there, and they've stonewalled his
investigation now doing the report and even making threats now
that his inquiries into July thirteenth, he's opened to investigations
into the Secret Service, that they will stonewall him on
(35:49):
those investigations as well. So that's why he must be
doing something right. She's got all of these enemies working
against them.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Well, in your piece, you say that they've been trying
to remove him, which I can imagine even the dastardly
Democrats know that removing an Inspector General from within DHS
who's looking at the sensitive areas would require a little
bit of maneuvering, you know. I mean, I'm not saying
they won't just brute force kick him out if they can,
but they're probably trying to find some justification to, if
(36:20):
not remove him entirely, certainly to slow him down and
make him less effective. But on specifically the attempted assassination
of Trump. We had members of Congress up on Capitol
Hill yesterday, right, it was a joint Senate joint Senate
committees that were questioning the now acting head of the
(36:41):
Secret Service. But it feels a bit like we all
know where this is going, especially if I know, but
Kamala Harris were to win this election, right, I mean,
it feels like the chances of us getting the truth
out of this are low regardless, But if Kamala wins
the election, given the Democrats proclivity for slow rolling and
(37:03):
sidelining actual accountability, we're working against the clock here, Julia,
in a few ways to get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
We absolutely are. And I think that that was the
frustration expressed yesterday by Senator Paul, Senator how Lee, Senator Johnson,
the Republican senators because they are thinking the same what
you just said. They can just run out the clock.
Hopefully Kamala Harris wins, in their view, and then this
will all be covered up, just like so much about
(37:33):
January sixth was covered up, and we're just learning new
things after Republicans took the House and representatives very louder Milk,
who's kind of uncovering all of this new material and
footage that we've never seen before. So this is their hope.
But look Kim Cheatle and Ronald Rowe, who testified yesterday,
who unbelievably conducted himself worse than Kim Cheatle did last week.
(37:59):
They both were on Protective Services the Protective Services detail
on January sixth. Their text messages also are missing, So
this should raise all sorts of red flags and the
comparison's box. If we were told that people had weapons
outside of the Ellipse and they were walking around Washington,
(38:21):
d C. In that vicinity, as the JA six Committee
claims and other law enforcement officials, why did the Secret
Service let Donald Trump take the stage of the Ellipse
on January sixth if he was in danger? If they
had intelligence beforehand days before that there could be violence
that day, why did they let the President speak outside?
(38:42):
Sort of the same questions were asking about July thirteenth
that no one seems to really answer. Certainly no one
seeing hold accountable of the Secret Service. So was it
negligence and competence on both of those events or was
it something more sinister? And when you listen to these
people testify, you see their ties. Democrats. Kim Cheetle and
(39:05):
Round Rowe both tipes to Joe Biden h in a
political capacity. So you know, this is what makes Americans
sort of nervous, thinking that there's something worse a foot
here than just negligence and incompetence.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Were speaking of Julie Kelly declassified on substack is where
you can find her work day in and day out
on this issue, and Julie, it's it's remarkable here we
are we're talking about. It's been a crazy summer in politics.
There's no question about that. We've had the Joe Biden
internal Democrat coup, you know, shoving the old man out
(39:43):
basically from running in this election after he said he
would be defiantly and I know you you were part
of You're part of Buck Island. It was sad. We
thought it was Julie. We were so close. We were
so close. I'm telling you, Biden, if you just didn't debate,
he was going to make it all the way through.
And I know people think that sounds crazy now, but
that was the plan. Everybody was on board on the
(40:04):
Democrat side for that plan. It's been an absolutely crazy summer.
We aren't even talking anymore. Just in June, right, we
got the Supreme Court to rule on presidential immunity, send
it back down to the courts. Where are you on,
as it's almost August? Here is the Democrat law fair
campaign against Trump for the purposes of this election effectively neutralized?
(40:29):
Or are you still thinking that there could be something
that pops up here to change the game before people
cast their votes.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Well, I mean, we're still going to see what happens
in Washington. Obviously, Judge Cannon rules earlier this month that
the appointment of Jack Smith is unconstitutional, that's being appealed,
but that those proceedings are over. She dismissed that classified
documents indictment in Florida, So that's really going nowhere in
the near term. But the Washington case, the January sixth
(41:01):
indictment the Jacksmith brought in DC under Judge Tanya Chuckkin,
the Supreme Court basically kicked the immunity question back to her.
She was the one who authored the groundbreaking historical opinion
that former presidents can be held criminally liable for their
conduct and office. The Supreme Court basically came back and
(41:24):
created three different categories. If it's official acts, he is
immune from prosecution. If it's outside they sort of said
this outer perimeter of their duties vents that would be
up to the courts to decide, and of course if
it was in a personal capacity, he could be charged.
This is going to be picked back to her. So
(41:45):
will she hold more hearings on this? She never did
a hearing on this. She just authored her opinion and
that was that. Will she hold hearings and try to
restart that indictment? I think she'll do whatever she possibly can.
She's Obama appointee. She has made visceral anti Trump statements
in court in j six proceedings, so she could restart that.
(42:09):
So well, I'll keep an eye on that. That's really
the only case that we'll be going anywhere. The Georgia case,
of course, is on appeal for Saniel Willis's conflict. And
then you know we have the New York case. That
sentencing is scheduled now for September. So for the most part,
buck the law fair is dead. It's hard to see
anything of substance moving forward before the election. But you know,
(42:34):
who knows where what they'll come up with next. And
even if Trump wins the Washington proceedings, the Jacksmith, I
don't think they're going to give that up until you
know eleven fifty nine am on January twentieth, twenty twenty five.
Even if he wins, I don't think that this DOJ
will give up trying to prosecute him and put him
(42:57):
on trial.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
And what are your acts expectations for the New York City?
I mean, you know, there's this whole Kamala is the
prosecutor to prosecute the case against the felon in the
election thing. They're pushing that really hard. Technically, Trump was
found guilty. We've talked about it at length. S over
knows how you feel about it. I feel about it.
I mean the whole thing was absurd, in a mockery
(43:21):
of justice in every respect in New York City. But
he's supposed to be sentenced in September. What do you
think is going to happen there?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
So this is a judge Jan Marshon, This is the
Elvin Bragg case. As you know when your listeners know,
based on the immunity ruling. Juan Marshon, Trump was supposed
to be sentenced earlier this month. He kicked that to September,
so they kind of work out the immunity issue. I'm
not really sure how the Supreme Court immunity decision will
impact this case. But we'll see what the lawyer's file
(43:54):
in this. So will he sentenced him to jail even
orders of this law fair think that that's unlikely that
he will send him to any jail time for this
record conviction. Even if he does, he won't be taken
into immediate custody. They will give him a recording date.
(44:15):
But you know, one Marshon should be nowhere near this.
I just filed this on my subject this week. His
daughter Lauren, who runs this Democrat Tide consulting firm. She
has raised it almost thirteen million dollars box since in
the first six months of this year for her consulting firm,
including eight million dollars from Adam Shipp. Her client list
(44:38):
looks like a Trump enemy's list. So and this is
more almost double than what she made the same time
in twenty twenty two during the last general election cycle.
So this has been very profitable for the Marshawn family.
So I'm suspecting they might ask for another refuse emotion
based on how much money has done has made off
(45:01):
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in that.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Case, Julie Kelly's going to stay on it. Everybody go
check her out at declassified on substack you could subscribe Julie.
Always good to have you all. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Thanks Buck.
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Speaker 1 (47:03):
Get to like ten eleven women. Hey everybody, welcome back
to Clay and Buck. And look. The truth here is
that the people that are so worried about JD vance
on the Trump ticket. I want to try my best
(47:23):
to call any of those concerns. First and foremost, I
said JD would be the vice president. But it's not
like jd is you know, my twin brother or something
like I'm not po poplar saying well, because you said
he was going to be the guy, you know, it's
like I can't be objective about what's going on here. No, No,
I think that jd. Vance is excellent as the vice
(47:47):
president for a number of for a number of reasons.
But before I get to that, let me get to
the attacks on him. First off, to say to say
that jd Vance is anti women or anti immigrant, I mean,
this is just they're gonna say this about anyone. I
need everyone to understand this. It doesn't matter. You could
(48:10):
have if you had Tim Scott as Trump's VP. Okay,
you would still have, I assure you, you would still
have Democrats telling everybody that Trump is running on like
a racist, you know, white supremacist platform, whatever, it doesn't matter,
and they would say that Tim Scott was being helpful
(48:30):
to Trump's racism. It doesn't matter. These are the attack
lines they're going to use because this is what the
Democrats always do, and this is what they have to
rely on. They're not gonna make arguments that make sense
to normal mentally, emotionally, spiritually stable individuals. They're gonna just
(48:52):
go after the buzzwords. They're gonna mobilize the brainwashed left
wing masses and just do everything in their power to
avoid the fact that they're putting forward a ticket here
against Trump and Vance. That's just gonna be, I mean
an absurdity, quite honestly. And the notion of Kamala Harris
(49:14):
running the United States is absurd, as I've been discussing
and telling you. But on the JD Events thing, I mean,
you've got over at the view Anna Navarro, who I'd
be so fascinating if she's probably whenever you're a Republican,
a former Republican who sells out everything that you ever
pretended to believe in as an adult, whenever you turn
(49:36):
on all your friends, turn on all your beliefs, then
you go on TV and say I'm an independent. Now
you know that's what Morning Joe does. I was watching
Morning Joe this morning. You know He's like, oh, I'm
an independent. I just in march to the beat of
my own drum, you know. Hey, and and A Navarro
is over there saying that JD. Vance is this is
cut twelve is dumb and weird. Play this.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
So I think we're being really and gracious by just
calling you weird, and frankly, Jdevans just dumb. Vans is
pretty weird. He has said more than once that he
thinks people without children that that's bad and must be punished,
and people with children must be rewarded. He wants people
with children to have more voting rights, he wants people
(50:20):
with children to pay less taxes. But here's what I
want to tell him, Yes, there are two types of
women in this world. There are women who have no
children because they are free to choose so, and there
are women like me who have no children because we couldn't.
And how dare you try to tell me that I
am lesser than.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
All Right, let's talk about this. First of all, the
notion that JD. Evans is dumb, I'm just going to
say it. I mean, Jdevans had nothing to go on
but his own brains and hard work. He didn't come
from some advantaged family or a dan demographic or in
the college admissions process, an advantaged skin color. In fact,
(51:05):
he's from a disadvantaged background in all of those respects,
and is now a vice presidential candidate. Nobody was ever waving. Look,
I can tell you from my own experience planet college
and jobs. When when you're the white I mean, I
know I look like Jade Vans and I could probably
be related. When you're the white guy from wherever, like,
no one's excited to you know, wave you through. If
(51:26):
you're a mediocre, okay, you've got to be able to
prove to everybody why you belong there at any leit institution.
And so he was at el Law School. For a
non legacy white guy to get into ill law school
is quite a feat. The the proposition that he is
dumb is an absurdity. An Navarro is not a smart person.
(51:47):
She's on TV because she represents what the Democrats want
to hear out of a person of Hispanic heritage, that
is it. And to say that Jadvan, but that's even
you know, put that all you know that already to
say to lie about him, as she's saying, to lie
about him and say that women should be punished for
(52:08):
not having kids. This is not true, This is not reality.
He didn't say this. They are making stuff up about him.
And you know, there's just no way around this other
than for everyone to understand whoever the Trump vice president
was going to be was going to be attacked as
the worst person ever. You have to remember they've thrown
(52:32):
so much against Trump that they know it doesn't register anymore.
Vance because he's Trump's VP, is a fresh target. They
haven't thrown OPO out against him, they haven't been paying
attention to him, and they're desperately trying to define him
as early as they can and as dishonestly as they can,
(52:56):
because they're effectively running a ninety day campaign. I mean,
early voting is going to start in what a couple
of months. You know, we're going to be an election day.
I know it feels like because we're talking about this ticket,
the Kamala ticket for the first time. Although as you know,
and someone came out with me last night and said, Buck,
you did say if it wasn't Biden, it would absolutely
be Kamala. I'm just saying that is true. However, it
(53:19):
may have gone down officially with the Biden not being
the guy all the way. I did say, well, it's
one hundred percent going to be Kamla, but it's not Biden,
because that's why you have a vice president. The whole
role a vice president is to be ready in case
of And this is also why I think the Vance
ticket or Vance's role in the ticket is good. I
don't think vice presidents matter very much in an election.
(53:42):
I don't think people vote based on it. I have
never voted for a president caring about who the vice
president was. Was I supposed to be blown away by
Mike Pence? Was I supposed to think that Paul Ryan
was the great Conservative fighter of the future. I mean,
you know, go back and look at this stuff. Dick Cheney,
(54:03):
I was really young, back to David dick Cheney. I
was like, h I don't know that guy. He seems okay.
You vote for the top of the ticket. And really
for most people, they're just voting for the party and
for the platform. And if you want to get even
deeper into it, most people vote based upon how they
feel casting that vote for that, you know, in that election,
(54:23):
for that party or that person. Right, So it's really
a self expression. You know, I'm voting for Republicans because
I love America, believe in the constitution, believe in the
rule of law, hate socialism, hate communism, right, I mean,
these are pretty straightforward things. Democrats vote for Democrat candidates
(54:44):
a lot of the time because they think it's what
a good person does, it's what the cool people do,
what the celebrities do, what the women's rights people or
the pro minority people do or whatever. Right, But that's
really what drives more of a voting behavior than very rarely,
especially when you get down into people who could go
(55:05):
either way, who are low propensity, who are swing voters.
Are they saying, well, because of this policy or that policy,
I will or will not, you know, cas my valid
for this president. That's unusual, that's pretty rare. But I
think that JD. Vance as a vice president is important
because Trump is going to be eighty while he's in office.
(55:27):
I mean, he is an older guy, and it's possible
that for a period of time, let's just say that
Trump might have to have an operation. I know, he's
fit as a fiddle. He looks great, but you know,
if you have this like a hip replacement or something,
and it's going to have a long rehab, maybe for
six weeks, he's he's incapacitated. I don't know, you have
a vice president for that reason. The vice president, remember,
(55:47):
it used to be the person that came in second place.
So this idea you know that was in the That
was the original approach in the United States, right, It was, oh,
well you were you got the second most vote, so
like you get to be vice president. But it turns
out I don't think the vice president matters very much
for the ticket because I'm Gonta. People say, do you
think it's gonna cost Trump? It's not gonna cost Trump.
(56:09):
That's the chirping from the media out there, getting in
your ears. Oh it's gonna cost them so much. What
do you think, Nikki Haley? They wouldn't have attacked my
mind word? You know, you think that if they give
me the vice president that they wouldn't have gone after
And I'll give you somebody who's entirely ineffective. And I'd
also say this, the fact that they hate Vance so
(56:33):
much and have to lie about him so much tells
you a lot. They're not hitting him. The things they're
saying about him are not true. When Anna and Navara
went after him and said that he has said that
women should be punished for not having children, he when
he talks about this, explicitly says, I'm not putting words
in his mouth. I'm not covering for him. He says
(56:55):
in the same speech that they're pulling this audio from
where he talked about the cat ladies. Right. I'm look,
the cat ladies are a catch all. I know lots
of ladies that have plenty of kids and they have
plenty of cats, right, So you know it's this is
not I remember we even had a few people right
again who were sad because we've talked about I talked
about like the blue haired anarchist psychos. I don't mean
(57:15):
blue hair is in aged person, you know, I mean
blue hairs in dyed like you know, either magenta or
or you know, see blue or whatever, you know, ocean
spray blue like, because you see a lot of that.
By the way, I've met some cool people that have
crazy hair colors too. It's just a generalized way of
(57:38):
talking about a group of identity and ideology of the left.
But when jad Vance talked about the women stuff, because
I've had all these people come to me, I'm alwayst like,
am I the Vance whisper? I don't even know the
guy I've interviewed on like twice. Uh, you know, I
don't know if he well, I mean he probably picked
me out of a lineup, but the guy doesn't know
me at all. I don't know him at all. I
(57:59):
just know of his work and have been following his
career a bit, and people are reaching out to me.
Oh buck, I'm so worried about what jade Van's gonna
do this ticket. I'm like, stop, I'm the one who's
watching Morning Joe, and I'm not worried about it at all,
because this is what they do. Anybody who's attached to
Trump is the worst person ever, must be destroyed, and
(58:21):
they're gonna lie about. But he explicitly said in these
comments that everyone's getting all spun up about. He says,
I am not talking about people who are unable to
have children or who just never reached a point in
their life where it was possible for having to have children.
He's talking about people who actively think that having children
(58:44):
is a waste of time, or even worse as a
general proposition, or even worse, don't want to have kids
because of climate change, because of their CO two footprint.
That is insane, and Kamala Harris is down with that.
Democrat Party is pushing that more and more. The Democrat
Party is deciding that they're perfectly fine with people going
(59:07):
to bed at night, little kids going to bed at night,
worried about the future because climate change is coming for us.
It's like the zombie apocalypse, except you know, they think
it's really gonna happen, and it's gonna because the temperature
change is one degree celsius. Oh my gosh, that's what's
going on. So just I just need everybody, you know,
(59:29):
in South and South Florida and Miami. I think everyone
would say, tranquilo, tranquilo. It's fine. Jennie Vance is good.
He's a smart guy. The base likes him. He's an
American success story. He's high IQ, he's a a person
of high integrity. All right, he's impressive. Trump and him
(59:52):
get along. He'll be useful. Everything's going to be cool.
Don't allow them, the Left, the Kammis Morning Joe, CNN
New York Times. Don't allow them to get in your
head and start to psych you out. That's what they're
hoping to do. Right now, we stay the course, We
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of seeing reality sees the reality that Kamala Harris is
a deeply unimpressive, not very bright social climber who somehow
is now all the Democrats have as their next hope
for keeping power. And that is the truth. And we
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