August 1, 2024 • 36 mins
Trump sparks firestorm at black journalist event, while Kamala hides from questions. Trump Q&A with ABC News Correspondent Rachel Scott was a single, but not a home run. Gambling odds favor Harris for first time. Biden speaks on Russian prisoner swap. What's the best way to mobilize voters in the swings states. What's the best way for Trump to go after Kamala? Callers on Trump's appeal to black voters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Second hour of the
program underway, Buck. We'll be back tomorrow taking care of
a few things, and we'll be back potentially tomorrow's together.
We got to figure out as a show what to
do with the situation that's going on in Israel right now.
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Four of us are scheduled tomorrow to fly to Israel.
As you might well imagine, not particularly safe in Israel
right now, So I may or may not be on
the show tomorrow, depending on whether I'm flying to Israel
or not, whether the flights are even allowed to take off.
So many different moving parts there. It's a little bit
of behind the scenes action in addition to everything that's
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going on that you are hearing every single day we
started off the show. Encourage you to go download the podcast.
Riley Gaines was great at the Olympics. Aman beat up
a woman she said she could no longer fight him.
Kamala Harris thinks it's a good thing. Joe Biden, it's
a good thing. We had a lot of discussion about
that in the first hour. It's a time for choosing
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on an issue such as that, which to me is
quite clearly right or wrong, and allowing men to compete
as women and beat up women in boxing seems like
a pretty easy decision to label is wrong. The entire
Democrat Party believes that it's more important really understand what's
going on there. It's more important that a man pretending
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to be a woman not be offended that someone questions
their womanhood than it is to protect a woman from
being beaten up by a man. That is the reality.
So i'd encourage you to go listen to that discussion,
appreciate your calls. We'll continue to take some of your calls.
We moved throughout the course of the program, but I
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want to pivot here to what happened yesterday with Trump
at the National Association of Black Journalists. Kamala Harris did
not appear. We are now in the I believe eleventh day,
it might be the twelfth day where Kamala Harris has
done zero interviews, has actually answered zero questions from any journalists,
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has not done a single event off of the teleprompter
since she took over the campaign from Joe Biden. They
are going to run the weekend at Bernie's two campaign
with Kamala Harris, not even with Joe Biden. Remember all
the media out there that was demanding Joe Biden to
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a press conference, Joe Biden, do interviews. I haven't seen
any of the same media demand that Kamala Harris do anything.
They are going to try and hide her, just like
they hid Joe Biden in twenty twenty. At least then
he was old and he had COVID. But the lesson
they took away was if we don't do any challenging interviews,
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our candidates don't get exposed. Meanwhile, Trump will go anywhere
and talk with anyone, and when he does, and those
interviews are combative, it's used against him. We're not playing
by the same set of rules. And we said this
on this program. We had RFK Junior on I believe
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multiple times. We have invited Gavin Newsom on this program.
We've invited Joe Biden on this program for four straight years.
I would gladly so would buck have Kamala Harris on
this program, and we would ask genuinely tough questions, fair questions.
Sometimes some of you have gotten mad at us because
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we've been too hard on the people that we've interviewed
who are Republicans? Mike Pence won't come back on the
show because I pressed him, I think fairly on whether
he believed that Trump should be put in prison for
the rest of his life, and whether if he were
president he would keep that from happening. Mike Pence wouldn't
really answer. So I don't want to deal with hypotheticals. Well, sorry,
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that's offensive to me. The entire purpose of a presidential
campaign is to deal in hypotheticals. All you do is
tell us what you would do if you won the election.
That's how campaigns work. So when you try to dodge
a question, I'm offended, as I would be if I'm
a listener. Buck couple of years ago got into Christy Nome.
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People were not happy. Sometimes when you ask tough questions
and the questions aren't answered, there is an opportunity, I believe,
even an obligation on the part of the show to
get answers to questions so that you guys can make
better decisions. So we would welcome I'd welcome Joe Biden
right now if he called in. I would welcome Kamala
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Harris right now if she called in. I would ask
all sorts of questions. I would ask a question not
as combative as the one that Trump started with at
the NABJ. But for those of you who didn't hear it,
I just guys, can you stop it right after the question,
because I think Trump actually did an okay job answering it.
But I want to, on the fly answer this question
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as I think Trump could have answered it if he
had delivered a perfect response to a question that we
should have seen coming. This is how the National Association
of Black Journalists and ABC News reporter how she began
the interview with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You have told four congressman wouna color who were American
citizens to go back to where they came from. You
have used words like animal and rabbit to describe black
district attorneys. You've attacked black journalists, calling them a loser,
saying the questions that they asked are quote stupid and racist.
You've had dinner with a white supremacist at.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Your marologue resort.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So my question, sir, now that you are asking black
supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust
you after you have used language like that?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay, so that's the opening question. Not hey, great to
see you appreciate you giving us the time, Thanks for
getting on your airplane, flying all the way to Chicago,
and having the decency, unlike Kamala Harris, to answer questions
and address us directly. None of that. Trump walked into
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the lions Den and they went after him. That was
the opening question. Now, in an ideal world, Trump would
have responded, Now, I don't have anything written down. I
don't do teleprompters. You guys know that. But an ideal world,
here's what I wish Trump would have said. I wish
Trump would have said, Well, first of all, it's great
to see you, appreciate you guys having me here. I'm
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looking forward to record levels of black support because a
lot of people are seeing through the lies incarnate in
the question that you just asked. I'll answer your question
here momentarily, but first let me pivot and ask you
a question, and ask all of you in this gather
of black journalists here a question as well. Have you
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ever asked Kamala Harris a question like that to start
off an interview? And led with a couple of questions
that I think are actually pretty significant. First of all,
you called Joe Biden a racist, in your failed twenty
twenty presidential campaign. On the stage, Joe Biden said he
didn't want his kids to go to a racial jungle
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for school. One day, you referenced that Kamala. Have you
ever asked Kamala how she could justify serving as vice
president for a man that she believed and was publicly
willing to say, was racist. I don't know that Kamala
Harris has ever been asked that question. That seems like
a pretty significant question. You also had Joe Biden in
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He said you ain't black if you don't vote for me.
He said Republicans were going to put you back in chains.
Have any of you repressed Joe Biden on that question
and asked him why your race should dictate how you vote?
Because I think that's insulting. Now, pivoting back to your question,
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I'm sometimes a jerk. Occasionally I may behave like an ass.
But the one thing I'll say is I don't treat
anybody differently. If a black person asks a stupid question,
I call him out on it. If you, as a
black woman, leads off the interview in a contentious manner
in a way that you never would if Kamala Harris
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were sitting here. I think that's racist of you. I'm
gonna call that out. I believe, for better or worse,
that everybody should be treated the exact same. Does that
sometimes mean that, as you pointed out, I might be
a little bit glib and a little bit mean and
a little bit unfair, maybe even to journalists, because I
think a lot of you are worthless. Yeah, it does,
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But it doesn't mean that I think black people, Asian people,
Hispanic people, are white people should be treated differently based
on your race. You know why, because I'm a Republican.
That's what Democrats believe. So the reason I came here
is to cut through all the fluff and all the
lies that you guys regularly pedle and sit down and
directly tell black voters, Hispanic voters, Asian voters, white voters.
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I want all your votes because I'm gonna be the
best damn president you've ever seen. Okay, that's me, unscripted,
no teleprompter. That answer. If you're not gonna deliver home
run answers, don't go to people who hate you and
expect that it's gonna go. Well, that's my biggest thing
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on the NABJ imagine. And I'm not saying that's the
perfect answer. I think it's close to a perfect answer.
Imagine if Trump had done that, Imagine if he had
delivered that response that I just gave. Now, his response
wasn't awful. I shared it. I think it was a
you know, solid single to left field. But if you're
gonna do these interviews, you have to swing for the fences.
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You have to try to hit grand slams with the
bases loaded. We know Kamala Harris is not gonna do them.
She's not gonna come on this program. Open invite, Kamala.
You're saying Trump's a coward because he won't debate you. Okay,
here's the reality. You are a coward because you won't
come into a show like this and sit down and
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talk to this audience and respect them for twenty minutes.
You won't do it. Open invite anytime, any place, anywhere.
We'll even tape Kamala Harris. Open invite for Joe Biden.
He's had one for four years. Come on this show,
actually ask challenging questions. They won't do it. If they're
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not going to do it, why should Trump do it?
I get some of you out there. You want to
beat your chest and say, oh, he'll go on anywhere. Yeah,
does he actually persuade anybody with the way that interview
went with the NABJ Gambling odds dropped five percent after
that interview that he was going to be the next
president of the United States. Now, maybe they'll come back.
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You guys know that I like gambling odds. That's the
market at large saying this was not a positive for
Donald Trump. What did he gain? Yes, he showed up.
You knew what questions were coming. If you're not willing
to put them in the upper deck, why are you
swinging the ball? Swinging the bat. This is a conversation
I have all the time with my team at OutKick.
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I say, singles are good. You make a good living
as a as a singles hitter. But when somebody hangs
a curveball for you, you got to put it in
the upper deck. That opening question to me, you knew
it was coming. It was a hanging curveball. Trump hit
a single, and then there were later moments where I
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don't think he even got base hits. I don't think
he benefited from that interview. Now, some of you are
going to say Oh, he totally. You're already voting for him.
We're ninety roughly ninety days out. To me, everything that
Trump does for the next ninety days should be designed
to try to persuade people who otherwise wouldn't be voting
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for him that they should. The base is in the bag.
I would crawl on broken glass at this point to
get my vote in for Donald Trump. My wife right
now is working because it's primary day in the state
of Tennessee where we are. I mentioned that she's concerned
about voter integrity. She's working volunteering all day at our
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local voting place to make sure that she's getting all
the votes in the best way that she can. Same
way that I would encourage all of you. You're fired
up about the election integrity where you live, donate, volunteer
your time and actually make a huge difference. But what
does he gain? And I'll open your calls. Maybe there's
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something that I am missing here. If you're doing something
that the other side won't do, and you're being judged
harshly when you do it, what would the headlines be
if Trump had stayed all day at Mar A Lago
yesterday and just flown to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania and done his event.
I think they'd be better for him. I don't think
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the gambling odds would have swung by five percent. I
think a lot of people saw that and said this
was an unforced error. If Kamala is not playing by
the same rules, if the media is not even going
to demand that she come off a teleprompter, does Trump
gain by coming off the teleprompter and going into the lions,
then I just want you guys to be thinking about that.
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Would you fight a tiger if the other side wasn't
I don't think I would. Can Trump play with the lead?
These are big questions. I think they're important questions. We
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Speaker 1 (15:39):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Some good news.
We have gotten some of the American prisoners released from
Russia in a prisoner exchange. Evan Gersovich, who is the
Wall Street Journal reporter, Paul Waylon, who is a former
Marine who had been held for over I think a
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couple of years now, among others, have been released. Credit
to Joe Biden for finally managing to get those guys released.
I believe we have an audio clip of Biden announcing
their release. We'll play it for you a little.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Bit later, your Prusician. I instructed our national security team
to dig into all the cases of hostage is being
wrongfully detained, which where inherently well we inherit them from
the private of the prior administration. I wanted to make
sure we're just the ground running, and we did as
Up today, my administration's brought home over seventy Americans we're
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wrongfully detained, hell hostage a broad many since before I
took office.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
All Right, there is Biden addressing the nation. I think
it's the first time he's been seen effectively or spoken
publicly since his address last week. Again, good result here.
They are effectively hiding Biden, I think for the next
five months six months of his tenure and Kamala Harris
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isn't reading off of a teleprompter, doing anything other than
reading off of a teleprompter, which ties back in with
the question I asked, if the standard for Kamala is
one thing and the standard for Trump is another, why
is Trump playing by a different set of rules than
everyone else. I think it's super important for them to
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sit down strategically and map out exactly what they think
is the appropriate way to handle things going forward, because
the media has basically decided Kamala Harris doesn't have to
tell him any of what she believes. She can basically
renounce all the errors that she's made, and she doesn't
even have to even talk to a Voter's not even
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Sexton on the front lines of True Welcome back in
Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging
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out with us. We are rolling through Thursday edition of
the program. Buck. We'll be back tomorrow. A lot of
different stories that are out there that we've been breaking
down for you. One that I think remains very significant
is I was talking about Trump going into the lions Den,
fighting tigers, whatever analogy you want to use, when he
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goes up against contentious media, and the fact that Kamala
Harris won't ever do it. Kamala Harris has never been
asked a question as hard as the question that Trump
was asked at the nabj in her entire career, and
it'll never happen. She's protected. But I do think there's
important strategic analysis here. As we sit now a little
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bit over a month till some people will be able
to start their voting, and I encourage all of you
out there to vote early, get your votes in as
early as you possibly can, get as many people around
you to vote early as you possibly can. I don't
think the math has fundamentally changed here. Everything that Trump
needs to do comes down largely to the question of
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can he win Pennsylvania, Can he win Michigan? Can he
win Wisconsin. If Trump can win one of those three states,
He's going to be the next president of the United States,
and Kamala Harri is probably gonna have to sweep all
of them. Because if you look at Georgia, I feel
good about Trump and Georgia. If you look at North Carolina,
I feel good about Trump in North Carolina. If you
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look at what's going on in Arizona and Nevada, things
seem to be going very well for Trump there. If
he wins those four states, then this is crazy. By
the way, he would only need to win one of
the big ten states. Again Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin. But
we got a huge listenership right now in Omaha. If
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Trump wins Georgia, if he wins Nevada, and if he
wins Arizona, then he could be president of the United
States if he wins Omaha Nebraska, because that would get
him to two hundred and sixty nine electoral votes, which
would guarantee a tie. When a tie happens, the election
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is thrown into the House of Representatives, and then the
House of Representatives, each state votes based on the congressional delegation,
and in theory, each state would then vote as the
majority either you have Republicans or Democrats for that candidate
Trump would win. So there is a scenario where we
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end up in a two sixty nine two sixty nine tie,
and assuming we don't have any faithless electors, of which
there have been many over the years, because one person
changing their vote then could potentially swing the vote to
the other side, and there would be a lot of
pressure suddenly for all the stewards of democracy to try
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to persuade a Republican to flip, because otherwise Trump would win.
But there's a lot of focus on that Blue Wall,
so to speak on the big ten states. But all
you on I believe it's kfab because I was just
up in Omaha, all you fabulous people listening to me
right now in Omaha, Nebraska. You might be able to
guarantee Trump as the next president of the United States
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by simply winning your congressional district, which is by and
large Omaha, Nebraska in the surrounding area. And so if
you actually break this down, you might not even need
to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin. It's a big deal.
As you look at the larger context and think about
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where we are headed, everything should be designed towards. How
does it play in Michigan, How does it play in Wisconsin?
How does it play in Pennsylvania? What is the best
way to mobilize voters in those three states which are
all effectively fifty to fifty states right now? If you
look at the gambling markets, think about how wild that is.
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All of you out there that are listening to me
in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, and all of you listening
to me in Omaha, and certainly if you're listening in Arizona,
Georgia and Nevada, your votes are worth like twenty of mine.
I'm in Tennessee, I'm gonna vote for Trump. Trump's gonna
win Tennessee by twenty points. A lot of you are
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listening in states that are not competitive. Some of you
are in states that you know Trump's not gonna win California.
It's still important for you to go vote, maybe New York,
because there are a lot of congressional races that may
well decide who is in control of the House, who's
in control of the Senate. There are lots of important
races all over the country. Montana, you guys, can deliver
control of the Senate back. If you go vote for
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Tim Sha Shihi. Ohio, you go vote for Bernie Marino,
you pretty much guarantee that at a minimum, Republicans take
back control of the Senate and limit whatever a Democrat
if they were to win the presidents he could do.
West Virginia. You've already bumped Joe Manchin out. You're going
to ensure that we get back to a fifty to
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fifty Senate and that even if Montana and Ohio didn't
go our direction, that you would still have a vice
president who could break ties. And it's not just there.
Dave McCormick's got a big race in Pennsylvania. You got
Carrie Lake now as the official nominee down in Arizona.
That just happened this week. There are a lot of
different states out there, Nevada, there are a lot of
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different states out there that have big Senate races that
also overlap with big presidential impact. But what I want
to talk about here is we get ready and we
roll into the third hour, is is Trump attacking Kamala
in the most effective way possible. I just talked about
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with you whether a venue like NABJ, which is a
nasty anti Trump venue by and large, whether that's the
best way to try to get your message out. But
a secondary part of this is what is the best message?
Kamala Harris is a fraud? Did you guys? Hear her
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in Atlanta showing up and talking like she had a
Southern accent. She's never been anywhere near the South in
her life. She spent her early adolescence actually in Canada,
in Montreal. She grew up in Berkeley. She's been in
California for most of her life. She never spent any
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time in the South. She went to Howard. Maybe, if
you want to be super expansive, you can call Washington,
DC the South. But I'm here to tell you, as
a native born Southerner, Washington, DC is not the South.
Kamala Harris is a chameleon. She doesn't actually believe in anything.
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She's done whatever it takes to gain political power her
entire career, whether that's sleep with a married man Willie
Brown in California, get paid. This is significant and nobody
wants to talk about it. Thanks to sleeping with the
married man, get on two different boards that paid her
four hundred thousand dollars. So she not only slept with
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a married man to advance her own causes, he promoted
her and got her a state job that paid her
four hundred thousand dollars over the tenure on those jobs.
It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money
for anybody. Then she barely gets elected as Attorney General,
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only won by a small margin in California, which is
a as you well know, very democrat state. Then basically
everybody clears the deck for to become senator. What she
actually accomplished. All she's shown is she will say whatever
she thinks is popular In that moment, she said defund
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the police was the right move. She said we should
have a wide open border. She said that immigrants, illegal
immigrants should get full medical coverage from your tax dollars.
She's been wrong on crime for the last several years.
Now she's trying to walk back everything that she said. Heck,
in Pennsylvania, she said she would ban fracking. Now that
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she's running nationwide, she says, oh, she doesn't mean that anymore.
She'll say whatever it takes. But Trump went after her
at the NABJ by saying for much of her life
she identified more as Indian than she did Black. Open
phone lines. I'm actually curious about this. Black voters who
are listening to me right now, how does that play
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in the black community. I'm curious what you guys would
say to me. On the one hand, it forces Kamala
Harris back into the identity politics arguments. My concern is,
does that take away from her having to address the
fact that she's been wrong on virtually every issue associated
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with both Joe Biden and her own failed presidential campaign
in twenty twenty. I mentioned this on the show a
couple of weeks ago, and I think It's very true.
Sometimes somebody only has one real flaw or two real flaws,
and it's easy to know how you're going to attack them.
Other times, this is something really kind of fascinating. By
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the way, Donald Trump himself about to call in, wants
to weigh in on the Olympics issue and more. I'm
gonna go to break right now. We're going to be
joined by Trump here shortly. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us. When we come back, future President of
the United States, he wants to weigh in on what
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he just saw happen in the Olympics with boxing and more.
We'll talk with him.
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Speaker 1 (29:13):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. President Trump is going
to join us here at the top of the next hour.
He has fired up about what he saw in the
Olympics this morning where a woman was dropped out of
the fight. Based on what exactly was going on that's
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completely ridiculous. A man who identifies as a woman's competing
in the Olympics. A lot of you want to weigh
in on a variety of what we were just talking about,
the NABJ and more. We'll talk a bit about that
with Trump here in the next hour. But Dawn in Wisconsin,
you had a take on the NABJ and you are
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black and Latina. What do you What did you take
away from it?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I took away I did like his response, you know,
when he was talking about, hey, you're you know, you're relate.
I came though that was all good. But when you
start attacking or since it's not really attacking, but it's
the word they like to use commenting on the race,
I feel like it really turns people off. I'm not
a newcomer to the conservative movement. I've been a conservative
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since I was ten years old and I heard Ronald Reagan,
so trust me, I'm not like new We're on the
fence here, but I feel like when he makes those
comments about race, black people who are kind of on
the fence like maybe I won't for this guy, maybe
I won't, it turns them off completely. Number One. Number
two people who are not fired up about Kamala, who
might not make it to the polls at all, get
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fired up when it's about race, and I feel like
that's he's losing. When he mentions race. He doesn't know
how to do it well, unfortunately, and the backfires.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
So your advice would be basically just focused on Kamala
Harris in her overall record and not get involved on
the personal levels there.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
If she's so rotten on everything else, you don't need
to come after her fake race or whatever she wants
to be today. People can do that for him, his
surrogates can do that. He should not do that. Come
after her for the fact that she is a horrible
person or a leader, and she's going to do everything
Joe Biden has done and worse. That's enough.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Thank you for the call, Thank you for listening. What
can we do better on the show? Are we making
the case pretty well here?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Oh, you're doing a phenomenal job. Except on your prediction
on whether Biden was going to drop out or next.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well that was buck. I was right. He still owes
me a stake over that. Thank you though for calling
in Dawn. We appreciate it. Wayne in South Carolina Black voter,
what did you think about the NABJ event?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Good afternoon Rush changed my life. I won't repeat what
the last call is is, so I'll go to this
because she was exactly right. Trump needs to tell people,
he needs to ask black people constantly, ask him, how
is these policies working for you? These policies that she has,
How will it affect your life? How has it affect
your life? Up under Joe Biden. You have to appeal
to black people's emotional side, because we are very emotional people.
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But he has to ask him, He has to say
what does this mean for you? He also has to say,
I'm giving you credit that you can think. You can
think through this. You're not a fool. You've been used,
you don't want to continue to be used. How does
this affect your life?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Do you think black men are particularly receptive to Trump
based on what you're seeing? I believe you said you're
in South Carolina.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
And absolutely is absolutely all over the country. I think
that's the angle that he can play. Black men are
tired of what the Democrat Party has to offer, and
he needs to say, look, this is a party, it's
a masculine party for men. You can take care of
your family. You can be a man. You don't have
to be embarrassed. You don't have to lure yourself to
the type of cultural things that the Democrat Party wants
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you to do. But he has to always constantly and
I know it's kind of sad, but he has to
always constantly talk to black people and let them know that. Look,
I know you can think. I know that you can think.
I give you credit for that. These people think you
don't have a brain.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I think that's right. Let me ask you this too,
by the way, because we've been teeing off and the
President is going to call in in the next hour
and talk about it. How do you think black guys
respond when they see a dude pretending to be a
chick beating up a woman in a sporting event.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I think it's terrible. I know that they don't like it,
but there's not enough safe space to really even talk
about it because you be shouted down so bad or
people basically ignore you. But this is not good. This
is not good. Black people are Christian people. We grow
up with moral people. Trump needs to talk about that too.
This party, you know, and I know I'm going off
on something else. But this party is not Christian man,
this party is not moral. It's a dangerous party. They
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already tried to kill him. He needs to talk about
all these things and always tell black people you can
be who you want to be. I give you credit
for the ability to think through the stuff. You're logic
who people you can think. The other side is not
giving you credit for.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
That, no doubt. Hey, I appreciate the call keep fighting
the good fight. And you mentioned Rush. Today is the
thirty sixth anniversary of Rush beginning his show. Producer Ali
shared me with shared that fact with me a little
bit earlier. Thank you for the call. A lot of
you weighing in to a variety of different topics. Let's
see here, Michael in Atlanta, down in the atl are
(34:26):
you optimistic about the Braves or do you feel like
this is not the year?
Speaker 7 (34:29):
Michael, Well Clay, I have to tell you, I'm glad
that you come into Atlanta and see a lot of
Braves games. You know, we don't know yet, but it's
still a long season.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
But I know it's been a little bit disappointing so far.
But the Battery in Atlanta is one of the best
places to see a baseball game anywhere. My boys are
die hard fans. But you wanted to weigh in with
the NAVJ reaction.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
All right, And you know I was calling because you know,
I didn't really want to disagree with your baseball now,
but I sort of want to from the standpoint of this,
you know, Trump going and dealing with this convention of
black journalists show that he's willing to go in and
talk to people that are not on his side, while
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Kamala basically duck the whole entire thing. It's it's pretty
much like if Trump didn't even show up the Sea
pat people are questioning what is Kamala's deal with that?
It's in our wheelhouse. So I would say that Trump
didn't hit a home run, But I think he's going
to have a lot of opportunities to get back up
up to bat, like with Charlemagne and the God or
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other prominent black journalists, and I think he's going to
be able to really hit home runs with more of
a one on one or or a better situation. And
that's where I think that he's going to really shine.
I know your other two callers can speak from a
different perspective. I'm a white guy but I can tell
you that Trump's major point is that com on it
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can't be trusted. Yeah, and I think that's what he's
trying to point out.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
That's totally true. Thank you for the call. Trump is
going to join us in the third hour. He really
wants to react to what he saw happen in the Olympics.
He is going to join us, I believe right around
two fifteen Eastern. We're going to have a short opening segment,
just kind of giving you a little bit of a
runway of what's coming. Short opening segment, then we'll clear
the deck talk to him for about ten minutes. He's
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got a super busy schedule, as you can imagine, but
he wanted to talk to all of you about what
he saw happen in the Olympics, in the fact that
we now have created a world where men are allowed
to compete against women, and it has gone megaviral, number
one story in the country this morning as many people
woke up to what they saw happen in Paris. We'll
talk about all that and more. Third hour of the
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program coming up next this play Travis and Buck Sexton show.
We appreciate all you hang out with us.
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Second hour of the
program underway, Buck. We'll be back tomorrow taking care of
a few things, and we'll be back potentially tomorrow's together.
We got to figure out as a show what to
do with the situation that's going on in Israel right now.
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Four of us are scheduled tomorrow to fly to Israel.
As you might well imagine, not particularly safe in Israel
right now, So I may or may not be on
the show tomorrow, depending on whether I'm flying to Israel
or not, whether the flights are even allowed to take off.
So many different moving parts there. It's a little bit
of behind the scenes action in addition to everything that's
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going on that you are hearing every single day we
started off the show. Encourage you to go download the podcast.
Riley Gaines was great at the Olympics. Aman beat up
a woman she said she could no longer fight him.
Kamala Harris thinks it's a good thing. Joe Biden, it's
a good thing. We had a lot of discussion about
that in the first hour. It's a time for choosing
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on an issue such as that, which to me is
quite clearly right or wrong, and allowing men to compete
as women and beat up women in boxing seems like
a pretty easy decision to label is wrong. The entire
Democrat Party believes that it's more important really understand what's
going on there. It's more important that a man pretending
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to be a woman not be offended that someone questions
their womanhood than it is to protect a woman from
being beaten up by a man. That is the reality.
So i'd encourage you to go listen to that discussion,
appreciate your calls. We'll continue to take some of your calls.
We moved throughout the course of the program, but I
(01:46):
want to pivot here to what happened yesterday with Trump
at the National Association of Black Journalists. Kamala Harris did
not appear. We are now in the I believe eleventh day,
it might be the twelfth day where Kamala Harris has
done zero interviews, has actually answered zero questions from any journalists,
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has not done a single event off of the teleprompter
since she took over the campaign from Joe Biden. They
are going to run the weekend at Bernie's two campaign
with Kamala Harris, not even with Joe Biden. Remember all
the media out there that was demanding Joe Biden to
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a press conference, Joe Biden, do interviews. I haven't seen
any of the same media demand that Kamala Harris do anything.
They are going to try and hide her, just like
they hid Joe Biden in twenty twenty. At least then
he was old and he had COVID. But the lesson
they took away was if we don't do any challenging interviews,
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our candidates don't get exposed. Meanwhile, Trump will go anywhere
and talk with anyone, and when he does, and those
interviews are combative, it's used against him. We're not playing
by the same set of rules. And we said this
on this program. We had RFK Junior on I believe
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multiple times. We have invited Gavin Newsom on this program.
We've invited Joe Biden on this program for four straight years.
I would gladly so would buck have Kamala Harris on
this program, and we would ask genuinely tough questions, fair questions.
Sometimes some of you have gotten mad at us because
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we've been too hard on the people that we've interviewed
who are Republicans? Mike Pence won't come back on the
show because I pressed him, I think fairly on whether
he believed that Trump should be put in prison for
the rest of his life, and whether if he were
president he would keep that from happening. Mike Pence wouldn't
really answer. So I don't want to deal with hypotheticals. Well, sorry,
(04:03):
that's offensive to me. The entire purpose of a presidential
campaign is to deal in hypotheticals. All you do is
tell us what you would do if you won the election.
That's how campaigns work. So when you try to dodge
a question, I'm offended, as I would be if I'm
a listener. Buck couple of years ago got into Christy Nome.
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People were not happy. Sometimes when you ask tough questions
and the questions aren't answered, there is an opportunity, I believe,
even an obligation on the part of the show to
get answers to questions so that you guys can make
better decisions. So we would welcome I'd welcome Joe Biden
right now if he called in. I would welcome Kamala
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Harris right now if she called in. I would ask
all sorts of questions. I would ask a question not
as combative as the one that Trump started with at
the NABJ. But for those of you who didn't hear it,
I just guys, can you stop it right after the question,
because I think Trump actually did an okay job answering it.
But I want to, on the fly answer this question
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as I think Trump could have answered it if he
had delivered a perfect response to a question that we
should have seen coming. This is how the National Association
of Black Journalists and ABC News reporter how she began
the interview with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You have told four congressman wouna color who were American
citizens to go back to where they came from. You
have used words like animal and rabbit to describe black
district attorneys. You've attacked black journalists, calling them a loser,
saying the questions that they asked are quote stupid and racist.
You've had dinner with a white supremacist at.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Your marologue resort.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So my question, sir, now that you are asking black
supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust
you after you have used language like that?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay, so that's the opening question. Not hey, great to
see you appreciate you giving us the time, Thanks for
getting on your airplane, flying all the way to Chicago,
and having the decency, unlike Kamala Harris, to answer questions
and address us directly. None of that. Trump walked into
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the lions Den and they went after him. That was
the opening question. Now, in an ideal world, Trump would
have responded, Now, I don't have anything written down. I
don't do teleprompters. You guys know that. But an ideal world,
here's what I wish Trump would have said. I wish
Trump would have said, Well, first of all, it's great
to see you, appreciate you guys having me here. I'm
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looking forward to record levels of black support because a
lot of people are seeing through the lies incarnate in
the question that you just asked. I'll answer your question
here momentarily, but first let me pivot and ask you
a question, and ask all of you in this gather
of black journalists here a question as well. Have you
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ever asked Kamala Harris a question like that to start
off an interview? And led with a couple of questions
that I think are actually pretty significant. First of all,
you called Joe Biden a racist, in your failed twenty
twenty presidential campaign. On the stage, Joe Biden said he
didn't want his kids to go to a racial jungle
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for school. One day, you referenced that Kamala. Have you
ever asked Kamala how she could justify serving as vice
president for a man that she believed and was publicly
willing to say, was racist. I don't know that Kamala
Harris has ever been asked that question. That seems like
a pretty significant question. You also had Joe Biden in
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He said you ain't black if you don't vote for me.
He said Republicans were going to put you back in chains.
Have any of you repressed Joe Biden on that question
and asked him why your race should dictate how you vote?
Because I think that's insulting. Now, pivoting back to your question,
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I'm sometimes a jerk. Occasionally I may behave like an ass.
But the one thing I'll say is I don't treat
anybody differently. If a black person asks a stupid question,
I call him out on it. If you, as a
black woman, leads off the interview in a contentious manner
in a way that you never would if Kamala Harris
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were sitting here. I think that's racist of you. I'm
gonna call that out. I believe, for better or worse,
that everybody should be treated the exact same. Does that
sometimes mean that, as you pointed out, I might be
a little bit glib and a little bit mean and
a little bit unfair, maybe even to journalists, because I
think a lot of you are worthless. Yeah, it does,
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But it doesn't mean that I think black people, Asian people,
Hispanic people, are white people should be treated differently based
on your race. You know why, because I'm a Republican.
That's what Democrats believe. So the reason I came here
is to cut through all the fluff and all the
lies that you guys regularly pedle and sit down and
directly tell black voters, Hispanic voters, Asian voters, white voters.
(09:18):
I want all your votes because I'm gonna be the
best damn president you've ever seen. Okay, that's me, unscripted,
no teleprompter. That answer. If you're not gonna deliver home
run answers, don't go to people who hate you and
expect that it's gonna go. Well, that's my biggest thing
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on the NABJ imagine. And I'm not saying that's the
perfect answer. I think it's close to a perfect answer.
Imagine if Trump had done that, Imagine if he had
delivered that response that I just gave. Now, his response
wasn't awful. I shared it. I think it was a
you know, solid single to left field. But if you're
gonna do these interviews, you have to swing for the fences.
(10:03):
You have to try to hit grand slams with the
bases loaded. We know Kamala Harris is not gonna do them.
She's not gonna come on this program. Open invite, Kamala.
You're saying Trump's a coward because he won't debate you. Okay,
here's the reality. You are a coward because you won't
come into a show like this and sit down and
(10:24):
talk to this audience and respect them for twenty minutes.
You won't do it. Open invite anytime, any place, anywhere.
We'll even tape Kamala Harris. Open invite for Joe Biden.
He's had one for four years. Come on this show,
actually ask challenging questions. They won't do it. If they're
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not going to do it, why should Trump do it?
I get some of you out there. You want to
beat your chest and say, oh, he'll go on anywhere. Yeah,
does he actually persuade anybody with the way that interview
went with the NABJ Gambling odds dropped five percent after
that interview that he was going to be the next
president of the United States. Now, maybe they'll come back.
(11:06):
You guys know that I like gambling odds. That's the
market at large saying this was not a positive for
Donald Trump. What did he gain? Yes, he showed up.
You knew what questions were coming. If you're not willing
to put them in the upper deck, why are you
swinging the ball? Swinging the bat. This is a conversation
I have all the time with my team at OutKick.
(11:27):
I say, singles are good. You make a good living
as a as a singles hitter. But when somebody hangs
a curveball for you, you got to put it in
the upper deck. That opening question to me, you knew
it was coming. It was a hanging curveball. Trump hit
a single, and then there were later moments where I
(11:50):
don't think he even got base hits. I don't think
he benefited from that interview. Now, some of you are
going to say Oh, he totally. You're already voting for him.
We're ninety roughly ninety days out. To me, everything that
Trump does for the next ninety days should be designed
to try to persuade people who otherwise wouldn't be voting
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for him that they should. The base is in the bag.
I would crawl on broken glass at this point to
get my vote in for Donald Trump. My wife right
now is working because it's primary day in the state
of Tennessee where we are. I mentioned that she's concerned
about voter integrity. She's working volunteering all day at our
(12:33):
local voting place to make sure that she's getting all
the votes in the best way that she can. Same
way that I would encourage all of you. You're fired
up about the election integrity where you live, donate, volunteer
your time and actually make a huge difference. But what
does he gain? And I'll open your calls. Maybe there's
(12:56):
something that I am missing here. If you're doing something
that the other side won't do, and you're being judged
harshly when you do it, what would the headlines be
if Trump had stayed all day at Mar A Lago
yesterday and just flown to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania and done his event.
I think they'd be better for him. I don't think
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the gambling odds would have swung by five percent. I
think a lot of people saw that and said this
was an unforced error. If Kamala is not playing by
the same rules, if the media is not even going
to demand that she come off a teleprompter, does Trump
gain by coming off the teleprompter and going into the lions,
then I just want you guys to be thinking about that.
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Would you fight a tiger if the other side wasn't
I don't think I would. Can Trump play with the lead?
These are big questions. I think they're important questions. We
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Speaker 1 (15:39):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Some good news.
We have gotten some of the American prisoners released from
Russia in a prisoner exchange. Evan Gersovich, who is the
Wall Street Journal reporter, Paul Waylon, who is a former
Marine who had been held for over I think a
(16:02):
couple of years now, among others, have been released. Credit
to Joe Biden for finally managing to get those guys released.
I believe we have an audio clip of Biden announcing
their release. We'll play it for you a little.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Bit later, your Prusician. I instructed our national security team
to dig into all the cases of hostage is being
wrongfully detained, which where inherently well we inherit them from
the private of the prior administration. I wanted to make
sure we're just the ground running, and we did as
Up today, my administration's brought home over seventy Americans we're
(16:45):
wrongfully detained, hell hostage a broad many since before I
took office.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
All Right, there is Biden addressing the nation. I think
it's the first time he's been seen effectively or spoken
publicly since his address last week. Again, good result here.
They are effectively hiding Biden, I think for the next
five months six months of his tenure and Kamala Harris
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isn't reading off of a teleprompter, doing anything other than
reading off of a teleprompter, which ties back in with
the question I asked, if the standard for Kamala is
one thing and the standard for Trump is another, why
is Trump playing by a different set of rules than
everyone else. I think it's super important for them to
(17:34):
sit down strategically and map out exactly what they think
is the appropriate way to handle things going forward, because
the media has basically decided Kamala Harris doesn't have to
tell him any of what she believes. She can basically
renounce all the errors that she's made, and she doesn't
even have to even talk to a Voter's not even
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Sexton on the front lines of True Welcome back in
Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging
(19:01):
out with us. We are rolling through Thursday edition of
the program. Buck. We'll be back tomorrow. A lot of
different stories that are out there that we've been breaking
down for you. One that I think remains very significant
is I was talking about Trump going into the lions Den,
fighting tigers, whatever analogy you want to use, when he
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goes up against contentious media, and the fact that Kamala
Harris won't ever do it. Kamala Harris has never been
asked a question as hard as the question that Trump
was asked at the nabj in her entire career, and
it'll never happen. She's protected. But I do think there's
important strategic analysis here. As we sit now a little
(19:44):
bit over a month till some people will be able
to start their voting, and I encourage all of you
out there to vote early, get your votes in as
early as you possibly can, get as many people around
you to vote early as you possibly can. I don't
think the math has fundamentally changed here. Everything that Trump
needs to do comes down largely to the question of
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can he win Pennsylvania, Can he win Michigan? Can he
win Wisconsin. If Trump can win one of those three states,
He's going to be the next president of the United States,
and Kamala Harri is probably gonna have to sweep all
of them. Because if you look at Georgia, I feel
good about Trump and Georgia. If you look at North Carolina,
I feel good about Trump in North Carolina. If you
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look at what's going on in Arizona and Nevada, things
seem to be going very well for Trump there. If
he wins those four states, then this is crazy. By
the way, he would only need to win one of
the big ten states. Again Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin. But
we got a huge listenership right now in Omaha. If
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Trump wins Georgia, if he wins Nevada, and if he
wins Arizona, then he could be president of the United
States if he wins Omaha Nebraska, because that would get
him to two hundred and sixty nine electoral votes, which
would guarantee a tie. When a tie happens, the election
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is thrown into the House of Representatives, and then the
House of Representatives, each state votes based on the congressional delegation,
and in theory, each state would then vote as the
majority either you have Republicans or Democrats for that candidate
Trump would win. So there is a scenario where we
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end up in a two sixty nine two sixty nine tie,
and assuming we don't have any faithless electors, of which
there have been many over the years, because one person
changing their vote then could potentially swing the vote to
the other side, and there would be a lot of
pressure suddenly for all the stewards of democracy to try
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to persuade a Republican to flip, because otherwise Trump would win.
But there's a lot of focus on that Blue Wall,
so to speak on the big ten states. But all
you on I believe it's kfab because I was just
up in Omaha, all you fabulous people listening to me
right now in Omaha, Nebraska. You might be able to
guarantee Trump as the next president of the United States
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by simply winning your congressional district, which is by and
large Omaha, Nebraska in the surrounding area. And so if
you actually break this down, you might not even need
to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin. It's a big deal.
As you look at the larger context and think about
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where we are headed, everything should be designed towards. How
does it play in Michigan, How does it play in Wisconsin?
How does it play in Pennsylvania? What is the best
way to mobilize voters in those three states which are
all effectively fifty to fifty states right now? If you
look at the gambling markets, think about how wild that is.
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All of you out there that are listening to me
in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, and all of you listening
to me in Omaha, and certainly if you're listening in Arizona,
Georgia and Nevada, your votes are worth like twenty of mine.
I'm in Tennessee, I'm gonna vote for Trump. Trump's gonna
win Tennessee by twenty points. A lot of you are
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listening in states that are not competitive. Some of you
are in states that you know Trump's not gonna win California.
It's still important for you to go vote, maybe New York,
because there are a lot of congressional races that may
well decide who is in control of the House, who's
in control of the Senate. There are lots of important
races all over the country. Montana, you guys, can deliver
control of the Senate back. If you go vote for
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Tim Sha Shihi. Ohio, you go vote for Bernie Marino,
you pretty much guarantee that at a minimum, Republicans take
back control of the Senate and limit whatever a Democrat
if they were to win the presidents he could do.
West Virginia. You've already bumped Joe Manchin out. You're going
to ensure that we get back to a fifty to
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fifty Senate and that even if Montana and Ohio didn't
go our direction, that you would still have a vice
president who could break ties. And it's not just there.
Dave McCormick's got a big race in Pennsylvania. You got
Carrie Lake now as the official nominee down in Arizona.
That just happened this week. There are a lot of
different states out there, Nevada, there are a lot of
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different states out there that have big Senate races that
also overlap with big presidential impact. But what I want
to talk about here is we get ready and we
roll into the third hour, is is Trump attacking Kamala
in the most effective way possible. I just talked about
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with you whether a venue like NABJ, which is a
nasty anti Trump venue by and large, whether that's the
best way to try to get your message out. But
a secondary part of this is what is the best message?
Kamala Harris is a fraud? Did you guys? Hear her
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in Atlanta showing up and talking like she had a
Southern accent. She's never been anywhere near the South in
her life. She spent her early adolescence actually in Canada,
in Montreal. She grew up in Berkeley. She's been in
California for most of her life. She never spent any
(25:39):
time in the South. She went to Howard. Maybe, if
you want to be super expansive, you can call Washington,
DC the South. But I'm here to tell you, as
a native born Southerner, Washington, DC is not the South.
Kamala Harris is a chameleon. She doesn't actually believe in anything.
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She's done whatever it takes to gain political power her
entire career, whether that's sleep with a married man Willie
Brown in California, get paid. This is significant and nobody
wants to talk about it. Thanks to sleeping with the
married man, get on two different boards that paid her
four hundred thousand dollars. So she not only slept with
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a married man to advance her own causes, he promoted
her and got her a state job that paid her
four hundred thousand dollars over the tenure on those jobs.
It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money
for anybody. Then she barely gets elected as Attorney General,
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only won by a small margin in California, which is
a as you well know, very democrat state. Then basically
everybody clears the deck for to become senator. What she
actually accomplished. All she's shown is she will say whatever
she thinks is popular In that moment, she said defund
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the police was the right move. She said we should
have a wide open border. She said that immigrants, illegal
immigrants should get full medical coverage from your tax dollars.
She's been wrong on crime for the last several years.
Now she's trying to walk back everything that she said. Heck,
in Pennsylvania, she said she would ban fracking. Now that
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she's running nationwide, she says, oh, she doesn't mean that anymore.
She'll say whatever it takes. But Trump went after her
at the NABJ by saying for much of her life
she identified more as Indian than she did Black. Open
phone lines. I'm actually curious about this. Black voters who
are listening to me right now, how does that play
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in the black community. I'm curious what you guys would
say to me. On the one hand, it forces Kamala
Harris back into the identity politics arguments. My concern is,
does that take away from her having to address the
fact that she's been wrong on virtually every issue associated
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with both Joe Biden and her own failed presidential campaign
in twenty twenty. I mentioned this on the show a
couple of weeks ago, and I think It's very true.
Sometimes somebody only has one real flaw or two real flaws,
and it's easy to know how you're going to attack them.
Other times, this is something really kind of fascinating. By
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the way, Donald Trump himself about to call in, wants
to weigh in on the Olympics issue and more. I'm
gonna go to break right now. We're going to be
joined by Trump here shortly. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us. When we come back, future President of
the United States, he wants to weigh in on what
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he just saw happen in the Olympics with boxing and more.
We'll talk with him.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
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Speaker 1 (29:13):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. President Trump is going
to join us here at the top of the next hour.
He has fired up about what he saw in the
Olympics this morning where a woman was dropped out of
the fight. Based on what exactly was going on that's
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completely ridiculous. A man who identifies as a woman's competing
in the Olympics. A lot of you want to weigh
in on a variety of what we were just talking about,
the NABJ and more. We'll talk a bit about that
with Trump here in the next hour. But Dawn in Wisconsin,
you had a take on the NABJ and you are
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black and Latina. What do you What did you take
away from it?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I took away I did like his response, you know,
when he was talking about, hey, you're you know, you're relate.
I came though that was all good. But when you
start attacking or since it's not really attacking, but it's
the word they like to use commenting on the race,
I feel like it really turns people off. I'm not
a newcomer to the conservative movement. I've been a conservative
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since I was ten years old and I heard Ronald Reagan,
so trust me, I'm not like new We're on the
fence here, but I feel like when he makes those
comments about race, black people who are kind of on
the fence like maybe I won't for this guy, maybe
I won't, it turns them off completely. Number One. Number
two people who are not fired up about Kamala, who
might not make it to the polls at all, get
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fired up when it's about race, and I feel like
that's he's losing. When he mentions race. He doesn't know
how to do it well, unfortunately, and the backfires.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
So your advice would be basically just focused on Kamala
Harris in her overall record and not get involved on
the personal levels there.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
If she's so rotten on everything else, you don't need
to come after her fake race or whatever she wants
to be today. People can do that for him, his
surrogates can do that. He should not do that. Come
after her for the fact that she is a horrible
person or a leader, and she's going to do everything
Joe Biden has done and worse. That's enough.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Thank you for the call, Thank you for listening. What
can we do better on the show? Are we making
the case pretty well here?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Oh, you're doing a phenomenal job. Except on your prediction
on whether Biden was going to drop out or next.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well that was buck. I was right. He still owes
me a stake over that. Thank you though for calling
in Dawn. We appreciate it. Wayne in South Carolina Black voter,
what did you think about the NABJ event?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Good afternoon Rush changed my life. I won't repeat what
the last call is is, so I'll go to this
because she was exactly right. Trump needs to tell people,
he needs to ask black people constantly, ask him, how
is these policies working for you? These policies that she has,
How will it affect your life? How has it affect
your life? Up under Joe Biden. You have to appeal
to black people's emotional side, because we are very emotional people.
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But he has to ask him, He has to say
what does this mean for you? He also has to say,
I'm giving you credit that you can think. You can
think through this. You're not a fool. You've been used,
you don't want to continue to be used. How does
this affect your life?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Do you think black men are particularly receptive to Trump
based on what you're seeing? I believe you said you're
in South Carolina.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
And absolutely is absolutely all over the country. I think
that's the angle that he can play. Black men are
tired of what the Democrat Party has to offer, and
he needs to say, look, this is a party, it's
a masculine party for men. You can take care of
your family. You can be a man. You don't have
to be embarrassed. You don't have to lure yourself to
the type of cultural things that the Democrat Party wants
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you to do. But he has to always constantly and
I know it's kind of sad, but he has to
always constantly talk to black people and let them know that. Look,
I know you can think. I know that you can think.
I give you credit for that. These people think you
don't have a brain.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I think that's right. Let me ask you this too,
by the way, because we've been teeing off and the
President is going to call in in the next hour
and talk about it. How do you think black guys
respond when they see a dude pretending to be a
chick beating up a woman in a sporting event.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I think it's terrible. I know that they don't like it,
but there's not enough safe space to really even talk
about it because you be shouted down so bad or
people basically ignore you. But this is not good. This
is not good. Black people are Christian people. We grow
up with moral people. Trump needs to talk about that too.
This party, you know, and I know I'm going off
on something else. But this party is not Christian man,
this party is not moral. It's a dangerous party. They
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already tried to kill him. He needs to talk about
all these things and always tell black people you can
be who you want to be. I give you credit
for the ability to think through the stuff. You're logic
who people you can think. The other side is not
giving you credit for.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
That, no doubt. Hey, I appreciate the call keep fighting
the good fight. And you mentioned Rush. Today is the
thirty sixth anniversary of Rush beginning his show. Producer Ali
shared me with shared that fact with me a little
bit earlier. Thank you for the call. A lot of
you weighing in to a variety of different topics. Let's
see here, Michael in Atlanta, down in the atl are
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you optimistic about the Braves or do you feel like
this is not the year?
Speaker 7 (34:29):
Michael, Well Clay, I have to tell you, I'm glad
that you come into Atlanta and see a lot of
Braves games. You know, we don't know yet, but it's
still a long season.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
But I know it's been a little bit disappointing so far.
But the Battery in Atlanta is one of the best
places to see a baseball game anywhere. My boys are
die hard fans. But you wanted to weigh in with
the NAVJ reaction.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
All right, And you know I was calling because you know,
I didn't really want to disagree with your baseball now,
but I sort of want to from the standpoint of this,
you know, Trump going and dealing with this convention of
black journalists show that he's willing to go in and
talk to people that are not on his side, while
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Kamala basically duck the whole entire thing. It's it's pretty
much like if Trump didn't even show up the Sea
pat people are questioning what is Kamala's deal with that?
It's in our wheelhouse. So I would say that Trump
didn't hit a home run, But I think he's going
to have a lot of opportunities to get back up
up to bat, like with Charlemagne and the God or
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other prominent black journalists, and I think he's going to
be able to really hit home runs with more of
a one on one or or a better situation. And
that's where I think that he's going to really shine.
I know your other two callers can speak from a
different perspective. I'm a white guy but I can tell
you that Trump's major point is that com on it
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can't be trusted. Yeah, and I think that's what he's
trying to point out.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
That's totally true. Thank you for the call. Trump is
going to join us in the third hour. He really
wants to react to what he saw happen in the Olympics.
He is going to join us, I believe right around
two fifteen Eastern. We're going to have a short opening segment,
just kind of giving you a little bit of a
runway of what's coming. Short opening segment, then we'll clear
the deck talk to him for about ten minutes. He's
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got a super busy schedule, as you can imagine, but
he wanted to talk to all of you about what
he saw happen in the Olympics, in the fact that
we now have created a world where men are allowed
to compete against women, and it has gone megaviral, number
one story in the country this morning as many people
woke up to what they saw happen in Paris. We'll
talk about all that and more. Third hour of the
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