August 3, 2024 • 36 mins
Paris Olympics opening ceremony mocks Last Supper with transgender depravity. Montage of Democrats calling Trump and Vance "weird." Vance comments about having children taken out of context. Kamala said that climate anxiety causes people to not want children.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us as we are
set to attempt to bring some sanity to an insane world,
as every single day it feels like things just get wackier,
wonkier and more outrageous, including even the Olympics, which we're
(00:23):
going to talk about some a lot of you reacting
to that opening ceremony.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Even Bunk was like, Hey, what in the world's going on?
Did you? So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We'll talk about this strange move honestly, that Biden is
now trying to redo the Supreme Court, but he's only
got five months left in office and there's no way
that this is going to change anything. And then JD
Vance coming in for massive attacks Kamala. Did you see
the cover of New York magazine where they're talking about, Oh,
(00:52):
look at what an incredible, incredible run Kamala Harris is having.
But is she starting to run finally into a bit
of pushback. We'll talk about all that and more, But Buck,
I'm curious. I've watched decent amount of the Olympics, I
would say, but on Friday, you and I were on
the phone, and I had the Olympic Ceremony on in
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the background while we were talking, and I saw this
sort of strange transgender version of the Last Supper, and
I retweeted it because I was like, this looks very odd.
Before even the religious overtones, which were quite clear and intentional,
really kind of registered him. My first thought was about
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the Charlie Keebdo Hebdo and the Muslim terrorists showed up
and murdered everyone who made fun of Mohammed in France.
If you don't remember that story, I think it was
twenty fifteen or so, I would think just in general.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And there was also the Danish cartoons too, by the way,
and which was a huge controversy because they had Mohammed
with the bomb on his head. Yeah, as a cartoon,
but I.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Would think when your goal is to appeal to billions
of people, that you would not try to alienate anyone,
much less one of the largest religious groups on the planet.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And so I just it feels because I just tell
everybody as Clay and I are talking about this effort
to wage war on Western civilization and Christianity specifically, and
those things are inextricably linked and symbiotic. Truly, there is
thunder and lightning breaking out so loudly it sounds like
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we're in the middle of a lightning field. Right when
I just ran in.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It looks like the apocalypse is or even in like
Independence Day, you know, when the aliens are coming out. Yeah,
that's what it looks like outside right here. And literally
the entire building that we're in is shaking as this
massive storm is rolling through so hotly.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We stay on air, by the way, I don't like
to Yeah, usually we're in different places, so at least
then we don't have to worry about the power going
out in one place. I generally don't like to throw
the term demonic around loosely, yep, because I think that
it is. I think it's important. I think it's the
only way to describe certain things. I don't know how
else you describe a mockery in knowing it would be
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in front of a billion people. I believe it had
one hundred, one hundred and fifty million dollar budget to
pull this whole thing together, which is, by the way, obscene,
you know, not in the same way this other stuff
was obscene. There was like a somewhat naked blue smurf
on a table. I mean I saw this afterwards because
everyone was so outraged by it. At least everybody who
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you know cares about God, Christianity and Western civilization, and
you know, it's it's a reminder, unfortunately, of many things.
One is that there is really a globalist religion and
a secularist religion. I know that seems that seems like
a oxymoron, but it's true of trans and lgbt Q
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I a orthodoxy now that the entire Western world has
a segment that believes that this is the most important
battle for like the future of our species. Basically is
to make sure that you know, there are trans kids,
and there's non binary, and there's all these other things,
and that there is interwoven in the fabric of society
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and civilization as anything else. Uh, And to affront the
Last Supper in this way, whether someone's a believer or not,
this is demonic. This whole thing was was demonic and
depraved and not even it wasn't even funny. Yeah, you know,
I mean some people, for example, did you ever see
the Book of Mormon? Oh yeah, I liked though I knew,
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I knew you were going to lie I found it,
you know, I I I thought it was I thought
across the line. And I'm not a Mormon, but I
thought across the line a little bit too much cursing
for me to be honest with you. But there were
funny moments, to be sure, and it was trying to
be funny and I and I did laugh at parts,
all right, So I'm not this whole thing. I'm like,
not only was it offensive, it was it was bizarre. Yeah,
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it makes no sense in the context of the of
the Olympics. And to do this and to say that
it's about being inclusive, you're inherently excluding a couple of
billion Christians around the world from wanting to watch and
wanting to be a part of this ceremony, do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, And my takeaway within the context of the Charlie
Hebdo controversy, when they Muslim fundamentalists showed up and murdered
many of the journalists that were involved in what is
the satirical magazine that's designed to ridicule everyone, and that's
why they were ridiculing Mohammed, much like say South Park
would do right when they put Muhammed in a bear.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Suit, and they've taken that off the area. Now I
know you can't. You can't find it anymore. It's gone.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well that's my point. The people who should be satirized
are the people who are willing to kill when they
are satirized. Now, it's dangerous, but they would never do
anything that would offend anyone who is Muslim in that
opening show because they're afraid of what would happen to them.
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Christians tend to be live and let live. They don't
typically take out their anger in the same way that
other religious groups do. So that's what stood out to me.
And again I just come back to the whole purpose
of the Olympics is to bring in people from every
part of the world, from every background and figure out
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who's the best at something. It is the ultimate ideally
inclusive environment. Look, there are lots of countries that are
totalitarian that I disagree with. North Korea has a team
at the Olympics, right, they're trying to win gold medals,
So why would you intentionally attack billions of people? And
the other thing I think is important about this buck
is to your they spend on hundred million. It's a
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scripted planned Somebody looks at this And it's not like
somebody made a joke that was unexpected it as sometimes
happens on live television and people got offended. This is
a script. They acted this out, they staged it, they
performed it, they intended it. I just can't believe how
many people would have signed off on this well.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And it's also I think a reminder unfortunately, of how
the Christian turned the other cheek belief. And I know
that's much more complicated than just the phrase, and some
people say it's turned the other cheek to show your defiance,
but that we are expected. I mean, I'm a Roman Catholic.
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We're expected to take stuff that nobody else is when
it comes to and I would just say, I believe
anyone's allowed to say what they want to say about
another religion. As you know, Islam is the only religion
and this is actually from Christopher Hitchins that makes the
claim for itself that non believers are held to a
standard of blasphemy in the modern world. That is the
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only religion on the planet of any significance that says
you must obey our hurt feelings as well, even if
you are a non Muslim. Nobody else does that. Nobody
else is able to say, uh that and with threat
of force, by the way, I mean, and people will
argue over that. They will they will kill people. I mean,
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that's the And it's interesting also that the left loves
the term stochastic terrorism. And if we remember sarcastic, I mean,
it's a mathematical term meaning random. And they will say, well,
if any right wing person does a bad thing, it's
because of the seeding of that ground with right wing ideology,
knowing that it will create one terrorist incident, that's stochastic terrorism.
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The Islamic world is ground zero whoops for stochastic terrorism,
right And and that just means that, yeah, there are
there are individuals, and when you actually break it down
by the numbers within the Islamic faith, it's a shockingly
large number of people, even if they's a very small percentage,
which it is as well of the overall who believe
(09:05):
that violence for blaspheming the profit is legitimate. Look at
the polls in the UK. Yeah, I mean I'm not
talking about in Saudi Arabia. Look at the poles in
the United Kingdom, Look at the poles in Dearborn, Michigan.
About whether you should face violence for blaspheming the prophet.
So you know, it's just show. I mean, for one thing,
France in particular, the reason that that the mind goes
to this is that France is supposed to be a
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great Christian and great I mean in terms of historically
it's supposed to be an important Christian nation and it's
gone secular and now it's in fear of Islam uh.
And that's how it operates as a society. And and
I think that there's there's a warning there for how
we can continue to just go forward as our in
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our in our own country here and not defend core
values and civilizational truths, quite honestly, and one of them
is free speech. And the fact that the that the
fair cost Mohammed thing is off the air and all that.
That's a part of this. But also, you know, Clay Is,
you know better than anybody. Sports has become such a
powerful medium of entertainment that the more I the more
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I think about this, the more I understand they're never
going to back off. You have, because what's up you
have to have to fight them. They're never going to
get tired of this, They're never going to really, they're
never going to say to themselves, oh wow, I'm not
getting the effect that I want. They can demand the
attention of people who don't want to hear their lectures
about how we need non binary transsmurfs on the table
(10:32):
or whatever that guy was, and say, oh, you think
you're going to watch a celebration of athletes, You're going
to watch left wing uh, anti god, demonic propaganda and
and you know, we can either sit back and allow it,
or people can say that this is going to have consequences,
lawful consequence. I think there are two ways.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
We've talked about this a lot, and I made my
decision without kick. One is you can just stop watching.
And there are some of you out there that are saying, hey,
I'm just not going to watch the Olympics now. To
be fair, none of the athletes had anything to do
with the Olympic opening leer.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
That's the problem is why punish even working for four
years to be the the you know, the best high
jumper in the world. Let's be honest, nobody gives anything
about the high jump until the Olympic.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That's rights and the same things with all the swimming competitions.
We were talking about this going in the weekend track
and field and swimming. This is the one time most
of us care about that stuff for four years. The
same thing with gymnastics to a large extent. Again, some
of you are diehards, I get it, but most people
tune in for the Olympics. So you can either say, hey,
I'm tuning out like one of these guys pulled the
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advertising off of the Olympics over it, or you can
do what what we did at out Kick, And I
think sooner or later, what people have to do is
actually fight back, and so that's how you win. I
don't think you can just get away the battlefield. I
think you have to basically, again we're speaking metaphorically, but
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I have to think you have to take up arms
and actually engage in a battle of ideas. And I
think we've had a lot of impact in the world
of sports at OutKick, and many of you out there
have as well. A lot of athletes are just playing
their games now. Michael Jordan had it right, I think
when he said Republicans by sneakers, too, Christians by sneakers,
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Muslims by sneakers. Why in the world would you offend
anybody in the opening ceremony intentionally. And the last thing
that I think is scary buck is you know what's awful.
Western civilization has given us all these freedoms, and now
attacking Western civilization as is occurring, is threatening to take.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Them all away. Well, this is this is how they
always do it, though. This is what we see in
the Venezuela election that's being stolen right before. Where are
you on observers, by the way, where are the lectures?
Where's everyone all freaked out about?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What about the voting and everything invent well, and no
one seems to care socialism. The people of Venezuela voted
for it, and what they didn't realize is they get it,
and if the people in charge have their way, they're
going to get socialism forever. Yes, democracy delivers socialism once
so that they can have socialism for all time. Yes,
that's the way that goes. So, you know, on our
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side of things too, I think unfortunately, there's been something
similar with the concept of tolerance. Tolerance was the big buzzword.
Now it's inclusion right now, it's something else. But tolerance
was the word of the nineties to allow for people
to make the case that you should just let you know,
let the crucifixes in Urine in New York City at
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the Museum go let And what we see is that
the tolerance always goes one way. It's a one way tolerance,
and that's a problem. And also I think there's a
lot of problems with the inclusion as the new buzzword.
Inclusion eventually leads to exclusion, which nobody talks about, and
somethings shouldn't be included. I agree. I don't think Weird
bluesmur Guy needed to be included in that. You know,
(14:01):
call me, I don't think the Last Supper need to
be included in that. I mean inclusion. We can see
it all day and talking about this. The people that
are always calling for inclusion and use that as a
means to justify some of their choices. There are a
lot of things that you could have shown up there
that if you try to say, oh, I'm just being inclusive, yeah,
they would have a try to share. What if you
had depicted men defeating women in sports because men have
(14:24):
an advantage in sports over women. And what if you
showed macho man Randy Savage showing up at the Olympics
pretending to you women going oh, yeah, I'm gonna crush them. Oh,
that wouldn't be inclusive.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No, it actually leads directly to exclusion because women are
being excluded from sports. Of course, you can't talk about
that in the Olympics, but you can talk about how
trans people should be re enacting the Last Supper. Again,
it's planned, it's scheduled. It wasn't an accidental thing that
happened to get on the air.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
This wasn't an error.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Everybody wanted this to happen, and they on some level
buck win when you talk about it, right, because that's
what they wanted. Yeah, although I'm I'm one of those
people who probably isn't going to watch any of it now.
I mean, I feel badly for the athlet but you know,
I don't really watch on sports anyway, so I'm not
exactly a great example of this.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
By the way, Kamala wants us all to feel weird.
Let me see this. I saw this. If you're on
team Kamala, you got to use that word. You got
to talk about things being things are weird. Trump is weird.
Jd Vance is weird. I'm not making this up. We
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us. There really are a lot of herd animals,
in particular on the left. The same people who told
you that Joe Biden was super sharp behind closed doors,
and remember Buck, they were all saying, hey, maybe Biden
should think about replacing Kamala Harris because she's been such
(19:23):
a bad vice president.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You remember when all that was.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Going on, and they were telling you that Kamala was
not a great vice president and that maybe she should
be replaced, And actually Biden was super sharp behind closed doors.
Now they've pivoted and Kamala Harris is the greatest thing
that's ever existed. She's got Obama like appeal. Everybody is
getting fired up. You mentioned the cover of New York
(19:47):
magazine where they're trying to now make her the new Camelot,
using Kamala, the kam to spell Camelot, to try to
connect her now to JFK, to Obama, all these different things. Well,
they're also saying JD. Vance, he's really weird. Trump, he's
really weird. The people who believe that men pretending to
(20:09):
be women should be able to win women's championships, because
even if you have a penis, you're still a woman
in their mind, they think JD. Vance is weird. Listen
to this new talking point. This is their attack. Trump
and jd are weird.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Listen. The party converges around a new message about the
Republican nominees, arguing they're weird. These Republicans just being weird,
just playing weird. These guys are crazy, that these guys
are weird.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Some of what he and his running mate are saying, well,
it's just playing weird.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
On the other side, they're just weird, just playing weird,
weird or weirdohs, weirdos and freaks.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Vance has done something more extreme, more weird. The weird
statements that JD. Vance has made, They will argue he's
weird and ill prepared.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's not just a weird style that he brings, it's
that this leads to weird policies.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We're not afraid of weird people. We're a little bit
creeped out, but we're not a prey. What's weird? I mean?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I mean, in all honesty, I think the vast majority
of Trump policies in particular, are most of them common sense.
But they think that this is going to be an
attack that is going to work. So their word of
the day, maybe their word of the week, their theme
is they're weird strange.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Right, Yeah, Well, let's actually unpack this for a second here.
First of all, the party that thinks that eight year
old need to read books with pornographic material in them
in school and twelve to sixteen year old should be
allowed to have gender transition surgery and hormones in some
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cases without parental consent, I think they're the weird We're
talking weird. Yes, I think the Democrat Party is obviously
the weird party. I think that the invitations of some
of the influencers that we've seen through the Biden White House,
including the trans individual who had fake boobs and went topless,
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on the White House lawn. You can say a lot
of things about Trump. He never had some trans person
flashing the boob job boobs.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes, it's really challenging my love for boobs. By the
way boobs are like that. That really throws the First
Amendment boobs into a into a quander.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I didn't want to bring it up, Clay, but I'm
just saying I think you needed asterisk under that. But nonetheless, uh,
I think it's clear that Democrats are the weird They're
the weirdos or the weird ones. But even beyond that,
let's just look at jd Vance for a second. What
he comes from a difficult upbringing. He's totally self made.
He wrote a smash best selling memoir about his difficult
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best difficult upbringing, which turned into a movie with Ron
Howard directing. He's a venture capitalist. He was a former marine.
He went to Yale Law School. Not because mommy or
daddy went there or donated a building or he had
the right skin color. He went there because he was
a really smart, compelling guy. And why is he weird?
(23:19):
Because he likes Lord of the Rings. I like Lord
of the Rings. I guess that makes me weird. Like,
what what is weird about jad Evince. They've just taken
one comment, the cat ladies comment, and it's interest because
I've noticed there's some there's some uh people on the
right are upset about this something. Yes, that's what I was,
thank you. That's about there is a little bit of
sensitivity about this. And look, it's he if you take
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it away from the rest of his comments. Even in
that one setting where they pulled that clip, he says,
I'm not talking about I am not talking about I'm
roughly paraphrasing here, but people that can't have children for
medical reasons or that just had difficulties in their life
where they always wanted kids but they never got there.
He was referring to people who made the conscious choice
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to never have a family because, oh, I don't know,
they're scared of climate change. And here you go, here's
Kamala Harris. This is cut too, Clay, Kamala Harris, you
want to talk weird. She thinks you shouldn't have kids
because of climate change.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I've heard young leaders talk with me about a term
they've coined called climate anxiety, right, which is fear of
the future and the unknown of whether it makes sense
for you to even think about having children.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
That's I mean, I understand she's talking about a sentiment
within the Democrat Party. She should be saying, those people
have an anxiety disorder and they need mental help.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, and we should have a I think a discussion
about what jad said, because I don't think it's controversial
at all to say that kids, having kids is a
vote on the future of the world and optimism. And
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also I would say I saw Jordan Peterson talk about this.
He said having kids doesn't and I'm paraphrasing him, but
I thought he said it well.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
He said, it doesn't mean that.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You're going to be mature necessarily or that the kids
are going to matter more than you, but it should,
and for most people it does. I know for me
having three kids, the moment we had our first kid,
you for the first time in your life, to a
large extent, are not the most important person in your
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own world. You get married, ideally you're coequal in some way.
But when you have kids, you you have someone that
you would probably give your life for in an instant
and not even think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I know that I would.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I know that most of you out there would with
your own kids as well. It's inn eate, it makes sense,
but until you have those kids, you don't really understand it.
And so building on that, I do think that if
you're a politician that if you have kids, I trust
you more. If you believe in God, I trust you more.
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When someone is trying to go get the ultimate power
in the country, I think if you know that there
are things that they care about more than their job,
it makes me trust them more. And I don't see
anything that jd. Vance said or this ties into me
buck with what Harrison Butker said. If you remember when
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that exploded into a huge controversy and people were attacking
him like crazy. I think that people who have kids
it should be encouraged. And I think that most people
trust politicians with kids more. And I think that there
are a lot of people and I think what you
said is important. That clip that nobody's playing where he says, look,
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a lot of people want to have kids desperately, and
they struggle and they're having difficulty. Yes, and he specifically
acknowledged them and said, I'm not talking about those people.
I just sometimes there are things that become controversial. And
I look at him and I felt the same way
about this comment as I did the Harrison Butker comments.
Not only should they not be controversial to a large extent,
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what they're saying when you listen to the context is
actually true and important.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And I also think it needs to be added into
this part of the equation because I've had I've had
a surprising number of friends' contacts on the right reach
out to me with this, are you worried about jad?
Because they know that I've been very vocal about how
I thought he would be the pay and then I
thought he would be a good pick. Right, But so
they're like, are you worried about this now?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Has this become a stumbling block for Trump? And I
just have to remind them everyone, let's remember what time
it is. ANYVP of Donald Trump, Yes, is a horrible person, weirdo, misogynist, racist,
doesn't matter. Is it a woman misogynist? Is it a
minority racist? They don't care whoever Trump's VP was going
(28:27):
to be, especially given the way that they have a
compressed timeline. This is the thing. What you're seeing is
what the media normally does, Clay, you know, this is
what everyone's seeing. This is how the media normally operates,
but you're seeing it at two times speed. For those
of you like to watch some time something on you know,
on fast forward, you're seeing the media campaign for Kamala
(28:49):
on fast forward. So that makes it easier to pick
up on these things, like they're all saying weird all
of a sudden. Whoever Trump's vice president was going to
be Jade Vanser anybody else, They would go to extreme
lengths to convince you this person is just fill in
the blank. Think of ten words for a person that
make them bad, and they would have all of those
(29:11):
things to say about this person doesn't matter. Well.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
The best example of that is, can you think of
two less blandly inoffensive people than Mitt Romney and Mike Pence?
They are maybe the two most boring inoffensive. Like I
think you've referred to him as like ned Flan flenns
with a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, Claire. One of
them is remotely offensive at all, and they tried to
(29:36):
destroy them both.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Mitt Romney is somebody who was so able, so intellectually
and emotionally malleable, that he, as a quote Republican, went
marching with a mask on to show his support for
black lives matter. So that showed you this guy actually
has no real backbone, and we should have known better.
But you know he was the nominee. We do what
we can, Clay, They said. Mitt Romney was a high
(30:00):
school bully who abuses dogs yep, which we know is
very gets, very emotional, and one of those people. I
don't like anyone being mean to dogs, abuses dogs, and
gives people cancer after he throws their spouse off the
company healthcare as a private equity guy. You know what
I mean. Yeah, Like he was the worst the governor
(30:21):
of Massachusetts, and he was the most milk toast, you know,
center right Republican you could possibly find on the national stage.
Mike Tence was the American Christian Taliban as far as
they were concerned. I know, Christian Taliban is an oxymoron,
but you know what I mean, Like he was. He
was the guy from the thing where the ladies all
(30:42):
dressed up with the Handmaid's Tale. He's the Handmaid's Tale guy.
He was. He had a rule that he wouldn't be
alone in a room with a woman. He wouldn't have
dinner alone with it one. By the way, I don't
think that's a bad rule. I'm a married guy now.
I don't think it's a bad rule.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
They tried to turn that into the most like he was.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He was mulla omar. I mean he was like he
was some kind of religious he was an austere religious
scholar class.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I will say the one thing on jd. Vance is
he was relatively unknown. I think they would have had
a harder time hitting Marco Rubio, for instance, because I
think he's already gone through the vetting. When you run
for president of the United States, if you've got anything
in your background at all, they come after you in
a big way.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And so I think jd Vance was still relatively unknown.
And I think where there they've had some success is
in defining him for the huge number of people out
there who didn't know him. But to your point, if
you just look at this guy on paper, born into
a poor family without a mom and dad, president in
(31:51):
his life to a large extent, raised by his grandmother,
living in poverty, joins the Marine's it's.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
A great American success story. Right. Everyone should want their
young son to grow up and be something like JD.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Vance, if we're being honest, goes to Ohio State. I
think on the gi Bill does so well there that
he gets into Yale Law School, which is very difficult
to get into it to your especially as a white guy.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Especially for a white guy.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Has tremendous success there, Marys and meets his wife there,
has a couple of kids, best selling author. They made
a Hollywood movie about how incredible is upbringing is. What
is Kabala done in comparison to that?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I say, there, I wonder. I mean, you look at
you look at Ursa, you look at their side. It's
like they've just got a bunch of MSNBC leaf behinds
in some community organizers running the Democrat Party. It's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I mean, his his achievements are incredible, particularly compared to Kamala.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
We'll see wh Kamala picks as a VP. But I
think it's good.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You know what, though, you think it's gonna be Shapiro, No, oh,
you think it's not. I think it's I think it's
going to be the astronaut Mark Kelly. I think it's
going to an astronaut.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I mean what I mean that's political, yeah, but that's
the point. It's so funny. They're hitting JD. Vans for
being kind of like the all American success story. And
I think they might add Mark Kelly into the mix
to that's not be that that's so that they can
try to pull towards the center just in time for
the election before they go full communist if they win.
(33:26):
I think that what we need to talk about bad.
By the way, I wouldn't bet with you on this one,
because I mean, I could go it could be Shapiro,
could be Mark Kelly.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I don't have a strong feeling on this Shapiro. I
think it's going to be because I do such a
strong anti Semitic streak now in the Democrat part.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And I do want to talk about the Seymour hersh
article because it's just further elucidates how we were so
close to Biden actually staying despite everything. You believe we're
going to go to break here.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
But do you believe that story because we need to
fill in people with what he alleges.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I do, Yeah, I do. That was my theory. It's
a really what the next hour, let's dive into the
truth about how Biden got pushed I think is super interesting.
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Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us as we are
set to attempt to bring some sanity to an insane world,
as every single day it feels like things just get wackier,
wonkier and more outrageous, including even the Olympics, which we're
(00:23):
going to talk about some a lot of you reacting
to that opening ceremony.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Even Bunk was like, Hey, what in the world's going on?
Did you? So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We'll talk about this strange move honestly, that Biden is
now trying to redo the Supreme Court, but he's only
got five months left in office and there's no way
that this is going to change anything. And then JD
Vance coming in for massive attacks Kamala. Did you see
the cover of New York magazine where they're talking about, Oh,
(00:52):
look at what an incredible, incredible run Kamala Harris is having.
But is she starting to run finally into a bit
of pushback. We'll talk about all that and more, But Buck,
I'm curious. I've watched decent amount of the Olympics, I
would say, but on Friday, you and I were on
the phone, and I had the Olympic Ceremony on in
(01:14):
the background while we were talking, and I saw this
sort of strange transgender version of the Last Supper, and
I retweeted it because I was like, this looks very odd.
Before even the religious overtones, which were quite clear and intentional,
really kind of registered him. My first thought was about
(01:36):
the Charlie Keebdo Hebdo and the Muslim terrorists showed up
and murdered everyone who made fun of Mohammed in France.
If you don't remember that story, I think it was
twenty fifteen or so, I would think just in general.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And there was also the Danish cartoons too, by the way,
and which was a huge controversy because they had Mohammed
with the bomb on his head. Yeah, as a cartoon,
but I.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Would think when your goal is to appeal to billions
of people, that you would not try to alienate anyone,
much less one of the largest religious groups on the planet.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And so I just it feels because I just tell
everybody as Clay and I are talking about this effort
to wage war on Western civilization and Christianity specifically, and
those things are inextricably linked and symbiotic. Truly, there is
thunder and lightning breaking out so loudly it sounds like
(02:33):
we're in the middle of a lightning field. Right when
I just ran in.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It looks like the apocalypse is or even in like
Independence Day, you know, when the aliens are coming out. Yeah,
that's what it looks like outside right here. And literally
the entire building that we're in is shaking as this
massive storm is rolling through so hotly.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We stay on air, by the way, I don't like
to Yeah, usually we're in different places, so at least
then we don't have to worry about the power going
out in one place. I generally don't like to throw
the term demonic around loosely, yep, because I think that
it is. I think it's important. I think it's the
only way to describe certain things. I don't know how
else you describe a mockery in knowing it would be
(03:17):
in front of a billion people. I believe it had
one hundred, one hundred and fifty million dollar budget to
pull this whole thing together, which is, by the way, obscene,
you know, not in the same way this other stuff
was obscene. There was like a somewhat naked blue smurf
on a table. I mean I saw this afterwards because
everyone was so outraged by it. At least everybody who
(03:40):
you know cares about God, Christianity and Western civilization, and
you know, it's it's a reminder, unfortunately, of many things.
One is that there is really a globalist religion and
a secularist religion. I know that seems that seems like
a oxymoron, but it's true of trans and lgbt Q
(04:02):
I a orthodoxy now that the entire Western world has
a segment that believes that this is the most important
battle for like the future of our species. Basically is
to make sure that you know, there are trans kids,
and there's non binary, and there's all these other things,
and that there is interwoven in the fabric of society
(04:22):
and civilization as anything else. Uh, And to affront the
Last Supper in this way, whether someone's a believer or not,
this is demonic. This whole thing was was demonic and
depraved and not even it wasn't even funny. Yeah, you know,
I mean some people, for example, did you ever see
the Book of Mormon? Oh yeah, I liked though I knew,
(04:46):
I knew you were going to lie I found it,
you know, I I I thought it was I thought
across the line. And I'm not a Mormon, but I
thought across the line a little bit too much cursing
for me to be honest with you. But there were
funny moments, to be sure, and it was trying to
be funny and I and I did laugh at parts,
all right, So I'm not this whole thing. I'm like,
not only was it offensive, it was it was bizarre. Yeah,
(05:10):
it makes no sense in the context of the of
the Olympics. And to do this and to say that
it's about being inclusive, you're inherently excluding a couple of
billion Christians around the world from wanting to watch and
wanting to be a part of this ceremony, do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, And my takeaway within the context of the Charlie
Hebdo controversy, when they Muslim fundamentalists showed up and murdered
many of the journalists that were involved in what is
the satirical magazine that's designed to ridicule everyone, and that's
why they were ridiculing Mohammed, much like say South Park
would do right when they put Muhammed in a bear.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Suit, and they've taken that off the area. Now I
know you can't. You can't find it anymore. It's gone.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well that's my point. The people who should be satirized
are the people who are willing to kill when they
are satirized. Now, it's dangerous, but they would never do
anything that would offend anyone who is Muslim in that
opening show because they're afraid of what would happen to them.
(06:16):
Christians tend to be live and let live. They don't
typically take out their anger in the same way that
other religious groups do. So that's what stood out to me.
And again I just come back to the whole purpose
of the Olympics is to bring in people from every
part of the world, from every background and figure out
(06:38):
who's the best at something. It is the ultimate ideally
inclusive environment. Look, there are lots of countries that are
totalitarian that I disagree with. North Korea has a team
at the Olympics, right, they're trying to win gold medals,
So why would you intentionally attack billions of people? And
the other thing I think is important about this buck
is to your they spend on hundred million. It's a
(07:01):
scripted planned Somebody looks at this And it's not like
somebody made a joke that was unexpected it as sometimes
happens on live television and people got offended. This is
a script. They acted this out, they staged it, they
performed it, they intended it. I just can't believe how
many people would have signed off on this well.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And it's also I think a reminder unfortunately, of how
the Christian turned the other cheek belief. And I know
that's much more complicated than just the phrase, and some
people say it's turned the other cheek to show your defiance,
but that we are expected. I mean, I'm a Roman Catholic.
(07:42):
We're expected to take stuff that nobody else is when
it comes to and I would just say, I believe
anyone's allowed to say what they want to say about
another religion. As you know, Islam is the only religion
and this is actually from Christopher Hitchins that makes the
claim for itself that non believers are held to a
standard of blasphemy in the modern world. That is the
(08:02):
only religion on the planet of any significance that says
you must obey our hurt feelings as well, even if
you are a non Muslim. Nobody else does that. Nobody
else is able to say, uh that and with threat
of force, by the way, I mean, and people will
argue over that. They will they will kill people. I mean,
(08:22):
that's the And it's interesting also that the left loves
the term stochastic terrorism. And if we remember sarcastic, I mean,
it's a mathematical term meaning random. And they will say, well,
if any right wing person does a bad thing, it's
because of the seeding of that ground with right wing ideology,
knowing that it will create one terrorist incident, that's stochastic terrorism.
(08:44):
The Islamic world is ground zero whoops for stochastic terrorism,
right And and that just means that, yeah, there are
there are individuals, and when you actually break it down
by the numbers within the Islamic faith, it's a shockingly
large number of people, even if they's a very small percentage,
which it is as well of the overall who believe
(09:05):
that violence for blaspheming the profit is legitimate. Look at
the polls in the UK. Yeah, I mean I'm not
talking about in Saudi Arabia. Look at the poles in
the United Kingdom, Look at the poles in Dearborn, Michigan.
About whether you should face violence for blaspheming the prophet.
So you know, it's just show. I mean, for one thing,
France in particular, the reason that that the mind goes
to this is that France is supposed to be a
(09:29):
great Christian and great I mean in terms of historically
it's supposed to be an important Christian nation and it's
gone secular and now it's in fear of Islam uh.
And that's how it operates as a society. And and
I think that there's there's a warning there for how
we can continue to just go forward as our in
(09:50):
our in our own country here and not defend core
values and civilizational truths, quite honestly, and one of them
is free speech. And the fact that the that the
fair cost Mohammed thing is off the air and all that.
That's a part of this. But also, you know, Clay Is,
you know better than anybody. Sports has become such a
powerful medium of entertainment that the more I the more
(10:11):
I think about this, the more I understand they're never
going to back off. You have, because what's up you
have to have to fight them. They're never going to
get tired of this, They're never going to really, they're
never going to say to themselves, oh wow, I'm not
getting the effect that I want. They can demand the
attention of people who don't want to hear their lectures
about how we need non binary transsmurfs on the table
(10:32):
or whatever that guy was, and say, oh, you think
you're going to watch a celebration of athletes, You're going
to watch left wing uh, anti god, demonic propaganda and
and you know, we can either sit back and allow it,
or people can say that this is going to have consequences,
lawful consequence. I think there are two ways.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
We've talked about this a lot, and I made my
decision without kick. One is you can just stop watching.
And there are some of you out there that are saying, hey,
I'm just not going to watch the Olympics now. To
be fair, none of the athletes had anything to do
with the Olympic opening leer.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
That's the problem is why punish even working for four
years to be the the you know, the best high
jumper in the world. Let's be honest, nobody gives anything
about the high jump until the Olympic.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That's rights and the same things with all the swimming competitions.
We were talking about this going in the weekend track
and field and swimming. This is the one time most
of us care about that stuff for four years. The
same thing with gymnastics to a large extent. Again, some
of you are diehards, I get it, but most people
tune in for the Olympics. So you can either say, hey,
I'm tuning out like one of these guys pulled the
(11:43):
advertising off of the Olympics over it, or you can
do what what we did at out Kick, And I
think sooner or later, what people have to do is
actually fight back, and so that's how you win. I
don't think you can just get away the battlefield. I
think you have to basically, again we're speaking metaphorically, but
(12:04):
I have to think you have to take up arms
and actually engage in a battle of ideas. And I
think we've had a lot of impact in the world
of sports at OutKick, and many of you out there
have as well. A lot of athletes are just playing
their games now. Michael Jordan had it right, I think
when he said Republicans by sneakers, too, Christians by sneakers,
(12:25):
Muslims by sneakers. Why in the world would you offend
anybody in the opening ceremony intentionally. And the last thing
that I think is scary buck is you know what's awful.
Western civilization has given us all these freedoms, and now
attacking Western civilization as is occurring, is threatening to take.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Them all away. Well, this is this is how they
always do it, though. This is what we see in
the Venezuela election that's being stolen right before. Where are
you on observers, by the way, where are the lectures?
Where's everyone all freaked out about?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What about the voting and everything invent well, and no
one seems to care socialism. The people of Venezuela voted
for it, and what they didn't realize is they get it,
and if the people in charge have their way, they're
going to get socialism forever. Yes, democracy delivers socialism once
so that they can have socialism for all time. Yes,
that's the way that goes. So, you know, on our
(13:18):
side of things too, I think unfortunately, there's been something
similar with the concept of tolerance. Tolerance was the big buzzword.
Now it's inclusion right now, it's something else. But tolerance
was the word of the nineties to allow for people
to make the case that you should just let you know,
let the crucifixes in Urine in New York City at
(13:40):
the Museum go let And what we see is that
the tolerance always goes one way. It's a one way tolerance,
and that's a problem. And also I think there's a
lot of problems with the inclusion as the new buzzword.
Inclusion eventually leads to exclusion, which nobody talks about, and
somethings shouldn't be included. I agree. I don't think Weird
bluesmur Guy needed to be included in that. You know,
(14:01):
call me, I don't think the Last Supper need to
be included in that. I mean inclusion. We can see
it all day and talking about this. The people that
are always calling for inclusion and use that as a
means to justify some of their choices. There are a
lot of things that you could have shown up there
that if you try to say, oh, I'm just being inclusive, yeah,
they would have a try to share. What if you
had depicted men defeating women in sports because men have
(14:24):
an advantage in sports over women. And what if you
showed macho man Randy Savage showing up at the Olympics
pretending to you women going oh, yeah, I'm gonna crush them. Oh,
that wouldn't be inclusive.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No, it actually leads directly to exclusion because women are
being excluded from sports. Of course, you can't talk about
that in the Olympics, but you can talk about how
trans people should be re enacting the Last Supper. Again,
it's planned, it's scheduled. It wasn't an accidental thing that
happened to get on the air.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
This wasn't an error.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Everybody wanted this to happen, and they on some level
buck win when you talk about it, right, because that's
what they wanted. Yeah, although I'm I'm one of those
people who probably isn't going to watch any of it now.
I mean, I feel badly for the athlet but you know,
I don't really watch on sports anyway, so I'm not
exactly a great example of this.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
By the way, Kamala wants us all to feel weird.
Let me see this. I saw this. If you're on
team Kamala, you got to use that word. You got
to talk about things being things are weird. Trump is weird.
Jd Vance is weird. I'm not making this up. We
will come back. We will tell you about this. This
is the whole campaign of the Kamala of this week,
(15:32):
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All right, welcome back to Clay and Buck. You know,
we were talking to you about this campaign of the
word weird and why that is being used so much.
It is not a coincidence. They're trying so desperately to
really run a campaign in three months, and as part
(17:23):
of that, the media they can't be subtle, not that
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would normally be in their partisan inclination. So Clay, we
come back. We're just gonna let them hear about how
all of a sudden everyone's saying, yeah, you know. Jd
Vance is kind of weird, and it's so funny to
me because jd Vance reminds me of like half the
(17:44):
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us. There really are a lot of herd animals,
in particular on the left. The same people who told
you that Joe Biden was super sharp behind closed doors,
and remember Buck, they were all saying, hey, maybe Biden
should think about replacing Kamala Harris because she's been such
(19:23):
a bad vice president.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You remember when all that was.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Going on, and they were telling you that Kamala was
not a great vice president and that maybe she should
be replaced, And actually Biden was super sharp behind closed doors.
Now they've pivoted and Kamala Harris is the greatest thing
that's ever existed. She's got Obama like appeal. Everybody is
getting fired up. You mentioned the cover of New York
(19:47):
magazine where they're trying to now make her the new Camelot,
using Kamala, the kam to spell Camelot, to try to
connect her now to JFK, to Obama, all these different things. Well,
they're also saying JD. Vance, he's really weird. Trump, he's
really weird. The people who believe that men pretending to
(20:09):
be women should be able to win women's championships, because
even if you have a penis, you're still a woman
in their mind, they think JD. Vance is weird. Listen
to this new talking point. This is their attack. Trump
and jd are weird.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Listen. The party converges around a new message about the
Republican nominees, arguing they're weird. These Republicans just being weird,
just playing weird. These guys are crazy, that these guys
are weird.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Some of what he and his running mate are saying, well,
it's just playing weird.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
On the other side, they're just weird, just playing weird,
weird or weirdohs, weirdos and freaks.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Vance has done something more extreme, more weird. The weird
statements that JD. Vance has made, They will argue he's
weird and ill prepared.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's not just a weird style that he brings, it's
that this leads to weird policies.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We're not afraid of weird people. We're a little bit
creeped out, but we're not a prey. What's weird? I mean?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I mean, in all honesty, I think the vast majority
of Trump policies in particular, are most of them common sense.
But they think that this is going to be an
attack that is going to work. So their word of
the day, maybe their word of the week, their theme
is they're weird strange.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Right, Yeah, Well, let's actually unpack this for a second here.
First of all, the party that thinks that eight year
old need to read books with pornographic material in them
in school and twelve to sixteen year old should be
allowed to have gender transition surgery and hormones in some
(21:52):
cases without parental consent, I think they're the weird We're
talking weird. Yes, I think the Democrat Party is obviously
the weird party. I think that the invitations of some
of the influencers that we've seen through the Biden White House,
including the trans individual who had fake boobs and went topless,
(22:13):
on the White House lawn. You can say a lot
of things about Trump. He never had some trans person
flashing the boob job boobs.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes, it's really challenging my love for boobs. By the
way boobs are like that. That really throws the First
Amendment boobs into a into a quander.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I didn't want to bring it up, Clay, but I'm
just saying I think you needed asterisk under that. But nonetheless, uh,
I think it's clear that Democrats are the weird They're
the weirdos or the weird ones. But even beyond that,
let's just look at jd Vance for a second. What
he comes from a difficult upbringing. He's totally self made.
He wrote a smash best selling memoir about his difficult
(22:57):
best difficult upbringing, which turned into a movie with Ron
Howard directing. He's a venture capitalist. He was a former marine.
He went to Yale Law School. Not because mommy or
daddy went there or donated a building or he had
the right skin color. He went there because he was
a really smart, compelling guy. And why is he weird?
(23:19):
Because he likes Lord of the Rings. I like Lord
of the Rings. I guess that makes me weird. Like,
what what is weird about jad Evince. They've just taken
one comment, the cat ladies comment, and it's interest because
I've noticed there's some there's some uh people on the
right are upset about this something. Yes, that's what I was,
thank you. That's about there is a little bit of
sensitivity about this. And look, it's he if you take
(23:45):
it away from the rest of his comments. Even in
that one setting where they pulled that clip, he says,
I'm not talking about I am not talking about I'm
roughly paraphrasing here, but people that can't have children for
medical reasons or that just had difficulties in their life
where they always wanted kids but they never got there.
He was referring to people who made the conscious choice
(24:10):
to never have a family because, oh, I don't know,
they're scared of climate change. And here you go, here's
Kamala Harris. This is cut too, Clay, Kamala Harris, you
want to talk weird. She thinks you shouldn't have kids
because of climate change.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I've heard young leaders talk with me about a term
they've coined called climate anxiety, right, which is fear of
the future and the unknown of whether it makes sense
for you to even think about having children.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
That's I mean, I understand she's talking about a sentiment
within the Democrat Party. She should be saying, those people
have an anxiety disorder and they need mental help.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, and we should have a I think a discussion
about what jad said, because I don't think it's controversial
at all to say that kids, having kids is a
vote on the future of the world and optimism. And
(25:14):
also I would say I saw Jordan Peterson talk about this.
He said having kids doesn't and I'm paraphrasing him, but
I thought he said it well.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
He said, it doesn't mean that.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You're going to be mature necessarily or that the kids
are going to matter more than you, but it should,
and for most people it does. I know for me
having three kids, the moment we had our first kid,
you for the first time in your life, to a
large extent, are not the most important person in your
(25:50):
own world. You get married, ideally you're coequal in some way.
But when you have kids, you you have someone that
you would probably give your life for in an instant
and not even think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I know that I would.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I know that most of you out there would with
your own kids as well. It's inn eate, it makes sense,
but until you have those kids, you don't really understand it.
And so building on that, I do think that if
you're a politician that if you have kids, I trust
you more. If you believe in God, I trust you more.
(26:33):
When someone is trying to go get the ultimate power
in the country, I think if you know that there
are things that they care about more than their job,
it makes me trust them more. And I don't see
anything that jd. Vance said or this ties into me
buck with what Harrison Butker said. If you remember when
(26:54):
that exploded into a huge controversy and people were attacking
him like crazy. I think that people who have kids
it should be encouraged. And I think that most people
trust politicians with kids more. And I think that there
are a lot of people and I think what you
said is important. That clip that nobody's playing where he says, look,
(27:15):
a lot of people want to have kids desperately, and
they struggle and they're having difficulty. Yes, and he specifically
acknowledged them and said, I'm not talking about those people.
I just sometimes there are things that become controversial. And
I look at him and I felt the same way
about this comment as I did the Harrison Butker comments.
Not only should they not be controversial to a large extent,
(27:38):
what they're saying when you listen to the context is
actually true and important.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And I also think it needs to be added into
this part of the equation because I've had I've had
a surprising number of friends' contacts on the right reach
out to me with this, are you worried about jad?
Because they know that I've been very vocal about how
I thought he would be the pay and then I
thought he would be a good pick. Right, But so
they're like, are you worried about this now?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Has this become a stumbling block for Trump? And I
just have to remind them everyone, let's remember what time
it is. ANYVP of Donald Trump, Yes, is a horrible person, weirdo, misogynist, racist,
doesn't matter. Is it a woman misogynist? Is it a
minority racist? They don't care whoever Trump's VP was going
(28:27):
to be, especially given the way that they have a
compressed timeline. This is the thing. What you're seeing is
what the media normally does, Clay, you know, this is
what everyone's seeing. This is how the media normally operates,
but you're seeing it at two times speed. For those
of you like to watch some time something on you know,
on fast forward, you're seeing the media campaign for Kamala
(28:49):
on fast forward. So that makes it easier to pick
up on these things, like they're all saying weird all
of a sudden. Whoever Trump's vice president was going to
be Jade Vanser anybody else, They would go to extreme
lengths to convince you this person is just fill in
the blank. Think of ten words for a person that
make them bad, and they would have all of those
(29:11):
things to say about this person doesn't matter. Well.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
The best example of that is, can you think of
two less blandly inoffensive people than Mitt Romney and Mike Pence?
They are maybe the two most boring inoffensive. Like I
think you've referred to him as like ned Flan flenns
with a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, Claire. One of
them is remotely offensive at all, and they tried to
(29:36):
destroy them both.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Mitt Romney is somebody who was so able, so intellectually
and emotionally malleable, that he, as a quote Republican, went
marching with a mask on to show his support for
black lives matter. So that showed you this guy actually
has no real backbone, and we should have known better.
But you know he was the nominee. We do what
we can, Clay, They said. Mitt Romney was a high
(30:00):
school bully who abuses dogs yep, which we know is
very gets, very emotional, and one of those people. I
don't like anyone being mean to dogs, abuses dogs, and
gives people cancer after he throws their spouse off the
company healthcare as a private equity guy. You know what
I mean. Yeah, Like he was the worst the governor
(30:21):
of Massachusetts, and he was the most milk toast, you know,
center right Republican you could possibly find on the national stage.
Mike Tence was the American Christian Taliban as far as
they were concerned. I know, Christian Taliban is an oxymoron,
but you know what I mean, Like he was. He
was the guy from the thing where the ladies all
(30:42):
dressed up with the Handmaid's Tale. He's the Handmaid's Tale guy.
He was. He had a rule that he wouldn't be
alone in a room with a woman. He wouldn't have
dinner alone with it one. By the way, I don't
think that's a bad rule. I'm a married guy now.
I don't think it's a bad rule.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
They tried to turn that into the most like he was.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He was mulla omar. I mean he was like he
was some kind of religious he was an austere religious
scholar class.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I will say the one thing on jd. Vance is
he was relatively unknown. I think they would have had
a harder time hitting Marco Rubio, for instance, because I
think he's already gone through the vetting. When you run
for president of the United States, if you've got anything
in your background at all, they come after you in
a big way.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And so I think jd Vance was still relatively unknown.
And I think where there they've had some success is
in defining him for the huge number of people out
there who didn't know him. But to your point, if
you just look at this guy on paper, born into
a poor family without a mom and dad, president in
(31:51):
his life to a large extent, raised by his grandmother,
living in poverty, joins the Marine's it's.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
A great American success story. Right. Everyone should want their
young son to grow up and be something like JD.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Vance, if we're being honest, goes to Ohio State. I
think on the gi Bill does so well there that
he gets into Yale Law School, which is very difficult
to get into it to your especially as a white guy.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Especially for a white guy.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Has tremendous success there, Marys and meets his wife there,
has a couple of kids, best selling author. They made
a Hollywood movie about how incredible is upbringing is. What
is Kabala done in comparison to that?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I say, there, I wonder. I mean, you look at
you look at Ursa, you look at their side. It's
like they've just got a bunch of MSNBC leaf behinds
in some community organizers running the Democrat Party. It's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I mean, his his achievements are incredible, particularly compared to Kamala.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
We'll see wh Kamala picks as a VP. But I
think it's good.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You know what, though, you think it's gonna be Shapiro, No, oh,
you think it's not. I think it's I think it's
going to be the astronaut Mark Kelly. I think it's
going to an astronaut.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I mean what I mean that's political, yeah, but that's
the point. It's so funny. They're hitting JD. Vans for
being kind of like the all American success story. And
I think they might add Mark Kelly into the mix
to that's not be that that's so that they can
try to pull towards the center just in time for
the election before they go full communist if they win.
(33:26):
I think that what we need to talk about bad.
By the way, I wouldn't bet with you on this one,
because I mean, I could go it could be Shapiro,
could be Mark Kelly.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I don't have a strong feeling on this Shapiro. I
think it's going to be because I do such a
strong anti Semitic streak now in the Democrat part.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And I do want to talk about the Seymour hersh
article because it's just further elucidates how we were so
close to Biden actually staying despite everything. You believe we're
going to go to break here.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
But do you believe that story because we need to
fill in people with what he alleges.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I do, Yeah, I do. That was my theory. It's
a really what the next hour, let's dive into the
truth about how Biden got pushed I think is super interesting.
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