August 3, 2024 • 36 mins
Biden proposes radical proposal to rig the Supreme Court. Socialist Maduro wins fake election in Venezuela. Who will be Kamala's VP? Clay gets handwritten threat letter delivered to his house. An 80-year-old in Michigan run over with car while putting up Trump sign. VIP emails and calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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great account for us somewhere out there, so you can
find us. Okay, early news today Buck was that Joe
Biden has decided that it's time to fix the Supreme Court.
Oh boy, Now this is weird to use a Democrat
word that they're trying to own. But it's very strange,
and I think calls into point of contention how odd
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it is to have a sitting president who is eligible
to run for.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Reelection not running for reelection.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So Biden is just sitting there and he's got five
months ish theoretically left in his term. Basically nothing's going
to get done because he has no political power, he
has no ability to move anything really through Congress, and
he's decided that he's going to try and remedy the
Supreme Court. And it's odd that you would have a
guy who spends fifty years in elected office suddenly decide,
(02:13):
for instance, that Supreme Court justices should only have eighteen
year terms.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He wants there to be.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
An amendment to overrule the presidential immunity decision, which I
actually thought was a good decision that has come down
so far from the Supreme Court. It's a pretty radical
proposition that he's endorsed. But it's strange to me, and
I'm curious if it felt the same to you, because
this was my initial thought. If somebody wants to go
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after changing the Supreme Court, it should be Kamala Harris,
because she's the person who's actually running for election, and
in theory, if people agree with her on that, then
she could have the ability to try and implement this policy.
But to have Biden arguing it feels awkward and doesn't
make a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, we know that it gets the Democrat basics.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I did, because one of the.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Problems for their get Trump efforts, for example, has been
that the Supreme Court can weigh in and put an
end to the lawlessness. Lawlessness done in the name of law,
which is what the entire campaign against Donald Trump using
prosecutor's offices, including an illegitimate special counsel a not really
duly appointed special counsel in this case, Jack Smith. But
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it's also a reminder of a constant truth with Democrats,
which is that an institution that they control in partisan
ways is inviolate, sacred, enduring, and demands and deserves all
of our respect. An institution of any kind, particularly government, though,
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that they cannot rely on to give them the desired
partisan outcome needs reform, corrupt needs work, look at the
Ethics Code. This is all just a function of they
know that even if Kamala were to win in this election,
you are likely to have a right of majority Supreme
Court through her term and perhaps for several terms after that.
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And they're very bitter about that. And it's also, of
course Trump's most enduring legacy in a sense. They've talked
about court packing. They've taught this has only happened really
in the era of they no longer have a Supreme
Court as a pseudo super legislature for them.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
That's all this is.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And isn't it interesting though, that suddenly, when he's resigning
effectively after fifty years, he suddenly comes out in favor
of term limits for Supreme Court justices, but not term
limits for politicians. If I had to choose, and I
bet most of you would agree. I think that lifetime
tenure makes a lot of sense for many judges out
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there because in the it keeps them from being bound
by the electoral process, which is in theory what you want, right,
But I would like to have term limits for many
different congressional leaders out there, like, hey, do you really
need more than twelve or eighteen years in the Senate
if you're doing actually really good work. Now I understand
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the argument that you're at least at the beck and
call of the voter. The voter can remove you at
some point in time. So Biden had to get elected
fifteen eighteen times, whatever the heck. He had to get
elected over his fifty year ten years.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
This also forgets the whole reason why we have lifetime appointments.
But by the way, Supreme Court justices and federal judges,
which is there supposed to be above, above and outside
the political frame. And Biden, because he can't count on
and the Democrats can count on a Supreme court of
activists who make the law up as they go to suit.
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Democrat needs in the moment, which is one hundred percent
what was going on with the previous court makeup before
Trump got three picks. You know, you see this and
you say to yourself, it couldn't be any more obvious.
This is just blatant power politics. The Supreme Court isn't
supposed to be a popularity contest every few years or
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a few terms or whatever it is. You know, a
Supreme Court justice spent eighteen years in active service. It's interesting.
I think this is also his effort to suggest that
he is part of solving the problem of people who
are too old and won't let it go. Now, you know,
he's flipping the script. Think about that, right, Well, we
can't have Supreme Court justices who are in their eighties.
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Clay Joe Biden is leading that charge. Now, look at
how he's switched sides.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, And I also think it is part and parcel
of unfortunately what's occurred, which is, if you really dislike
a Supreme Court ruling, Congress has the.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Ability to overrule the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Right, you just have to get a lot of people
by legislative authority by and large to do something. For instance,
if you really hate the Dobbs decision, and you think
the Dobbs decision is the worst thing that's ever happened,
get sixty votes basically, and decide that you're going to
nationalize the abortion issue and take it on from the
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political process and take it out of the Supreme Court's hands.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
One of the things that I think a lot of
people have done a poor job of, although I think
a lot of the fear on abortion is down drastically
compared to twenty twenty two. But what the Supreme Court
actually did in Dabbs is the single most democratic thing
they could possibly have done. They gave every state the
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right to decide what they think the law should be,
as opposed to nine justices parachuting in and saying what
the law is.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Isn't that a great thing?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Truly?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Are democracy defenders, which is what democrats try to claim
that they are. This is the best possible democratic ruling
that a Supreme Court could have ever given you, because
it throws back to the states a question of intense
interest and allows the national debate to take place and
democracy to flourish pro or con on what the law
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of the land should be. And yet I think a
lot of people have missed that. I haven't heard Republicans
make that good of an argument. Now, Trump, to his credit,
has said, hey, it's now a state issue, we don't
need to focus on it very much. But I haven't
heard very many people take the next step and say
in actually, if you want to be arguing that you're
defenders of democracy, this is the amazing democratic process. Like
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you can go out in any state in America and
decide what you think the law is, advocate for it,
pass laws. It returned the power to the people from
the court. Far from being a usurpation of power from
the Supreme Court, exact opposite. It actually gave the entire
American public the opportunity to make a rational choice as
to what they think the law should be. And I
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think that's one reason abortion doesn't have the pop that
I think the Kabla Harrises of the world are hoping
that it will this election.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So, you know, when you talk about having principle, principle
would mean there is something that you recognize that is
in and of itself an important good or goal. And
the problem with Democrats is they don't actually have principles,
They just have power pursuits. So I've mentioned it before,
but there's the great Frank Herbert quote from Children of
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Dooon not as good as Doune. From what I understand,
when I am weaker than you, I ask for freedom
because that is according to your principles. When I am
stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that
is according to my principles. That is how democrats operate,
with all institutions of government, with all the apparatus of
power that they have access to. It's always if I'm
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winning democrat, see is sacred, and if I'm getting my way,
this institution is to be cherished. If I don't tear
it down, it's bad because there is no adherence to
a principle. The principle being that even if you don't
like something, there's a reason why we have it chosen
this way because people will disagree, and there should be
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some system in place that allows for people to have
a say, the people to have a say in their destiny.
They don't really buy they don't really believe it. Look
at Venezuela. I was mentioning it before they all of
a sudden, the Maduro government in Venezuela is saying no
one is allowed to watch the ballot counting going on
in all these different precincts there.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
First of all, a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Are saying, hmm, interesting, sounds like some stuff that I've
heard of before. Also very clear that when by the way,
I have no doubt that Maduro won the first election,
because you know, according to his principles, when he can win, great,
But I have plenty of reasona believe that he's cheating
in this election because it it's never about the principle.
It is about being in charge and having authority over others.
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And Democrats and Maduro are much closer than people want
to believe in the mainstream in this country. Unfortunately, the
only thing stopping us from going full Venezuela is all
the Republicans were saying, stop being such lunatics.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And frankly, a lot of Venezuelan refugees who are now
citizens here and see better than most what can happen
when you actually vote socialists into power. Yeah, I mean,
look at I live in one of the most densely
populated communist refuge areas of the entire nation, which is
South Florida. Historically, clearly, the refugees from Cuba, including some
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very mentor of mine. Some very good friends of mine,
one of whom was actually.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
At the Bay of Pigs, fought at the Bay of Pigs,
was captured there, and they understand the evil of communism.
Communism was sold as being a great thing in Cuba.
Of course, as it always is, same thing has happened
in Venezuela. Every newscaster in the country loves to talk
about the one stat we all know about Venezuela large
proven oil reserves in the world. Although it's like heavy crude,
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it's not you know, you have to refine it. They
can't even refine the oil they have. That's a whole
other thing. But the truth is that the socialism versus
communism debate isn't worth the semantics. The same dynamics were
at play of envy and promises that would never be
kept in Cuba that were at play in Venezuela. And
now guess what, they're stuck with it because it just
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goes back to the core point. It's not about principle
and clay with the Democrat and the Supreme Court. If
they aren't getting their way, there is no principle that
the Supreme Court upholds that is worthwhile it's all about
the outcome, you see, You know what I mean? Now,
it's just and that's the way they always are.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But are you with me that it feels weird to
have Biden trying to make this argument. If somebody wanted
to make the argument, it feels like it should be
Kamala Harris. I don't really know, because we haven't had
a situation like this going all the way back to
nineteen sixty eight where we've had somebody in the presidency
who was not termal limited out that is basically choosing
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like LBJ did in theory, choose, but they forced him out.
But like, what does Biden do the next five months?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think it's prepping the ground for his base to
be very disappointed over Supreme Court decisions that may come
down on the law fair cases against Trump if it
goes there on, if there's election issues or disputes that happen,
you know, if there's an election dispute that makes its
way up to the Supreme Court. This time, Democrats know
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it as a rubber stamp for their side, so they
undermine it in advance as part of softening up the
opposition on the battlefield.
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and Buck. Who is going to be Kamala's VP. This
is getting a lot of attention now we know who
Trump's VP is. We start out in the first hour
(15:24):
discussing how suddenly there's all this attention on jd Vance
for being weird, and that's just particularly bizarre. So I
think he's one of the least weird individuals we've seen
in American politics at a high level in a long time.
And I think that the Harris campaign, more so than
the Trump campaign, is hoping that there's something that can
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be done with a VP that will deliver a state. Right,
That's that's a big part of this as well. I
have to say, Clay, I think it is. I think
it is likely to be either the astronaut or governor
Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania. Is there anyone else who you
think is really top of the list right now? Still
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people have said Basher, you know that guy pretty well.
He's from a neighboring state. I don't think he has
the name recognition, and I think his name is kind
of hard to spell. And I know that sounds ridiculous,
but I feel like he doesn't bring enough to it.
I think, you know, an astronaut from Arizona people get
excited about, and the governor of Pennsylvania. That's just to
win Pennsylvania, that's all.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That is the thing that I think is fascinating about
the calculus is the clear choice should be Shapiro, the
Jewish Democrat governor from Pennsylvania, because there is almost no
map that allows Democrats to win the race without winning Pennsylvania.
Got to win a lot of states, but Pennsylvania basically
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is a must have. The challenge is and I guarantee
you that they are doing the math on this. Does
Josh Shapiro, because he's Jewish, turn off much of the
anti Semitic left wing base of the Democrat Party that
is rooted to a certain degree in Michigan, another must
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win state, and all Trump has to do is win
one of Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania, just one of those states,
and he's going to be president of the United States.
So how does Kamala balance that. It could be that
Mark Kelly is the safe pick in quotation marks, but
I don't think he delivers Arizona, And so I think
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she's going to end up with Josh Shapiro because his
state is so much more important. But right now they're
trying to figure out whether she can do that given
the incredible anti semitism inside of the Democrat Party. Buck
isn't that a crazy flaw of the Democrats? Can you
imagine if there were a Republican candidate who made total sense,
(17:55):
but people wouldn't put him on the ticket because.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
He was Jewish? It would be a huge story. Talk
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Speaker 3 (19:00):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I want to mention this because I tweeted about it.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
You know about it. We got at the house.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I just want you to hear it from me because
I don't want there's people who are writing about it now.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
We got at the house on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
A handwritten death threat delivered to the house Minneapolis postage Mark,
if any of you are able to help in any
way with that in the Minneapolis area, I think, I
know we have a big audience there. I know that
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there are going to be people doing an investigation into it.
So if you're in that Minneapolis area and you see somebody,
I would love to catch this person. They threatened Buck,
they threatened me, said they were going to kill us
in ten days. A serious thing. Obviously coming to the house.
Kids not very excited, as you can well imagine to
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see police in the house conducting an investigation. The reason
why I bring it up is one, I hope they
catch this guy. But two, I think for all of
you out there, the next one hundred days are going
to be incredibly emotional. There will probably be a lot
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of moments where you're very angry, maybe where you're very happy,
but an emotional roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Be careful, be careful out there.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I saw this story Buck, I don't think we even
hardly mentioned it up upstate Michigan. Did you see the
guy eighty year old guy is putting a Trump sign
out in his yard and a twenty year old roughly
drove over him, and then the twenty year old ended
up killing himself. I don't think that most of you
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think of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan as being the
kind of place where political passions run so wild that
you would see an elderly man with a sign, whether
it's a Biden sign, a Harris sign, a Trump sign,
whatever it is, and your thought would be, I got
to run this guy over, and you saw what just
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happened to Trump. There is a lot I feel a
lot of it is on the left. Let's be clear,
there is a lot of anger out there. There is
a lot of it feels to me boiling point violence
level behavior. And I want every single one of you
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that listens to us to do your absolute best to
pledge it that you are going to maintain control of
your faculties, because buck, in the wake of the Trump assassination,
I think many of you were as angry as I was,
as angry as you were. Emotion often doesn't lead to
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rational choices, and I just want all of you to
be careful because not only do we want everybody to
be safe and not commit violent crimes, but also understand
that there is this undercurrent. People want to catch you,
People want there is I really believe this, They want
to find Trump supporters who they believe are engaging in violence.
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They want you to exist. Don't give them that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Be smarter.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And whoever this idiot is, that's writing you know, death threats.
Don't I mean, don't send dad threats to people on
social media. But there's something about a written letter that
is just creepy arriving at the house, like be cognizant
of just basic humanity. I had to tell my nine
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year old Buck when the police came a little bit
of a funny moment. He thought that the police were
there because I jaywalk a lot.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That's what I would have thought.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It was my dad's speeding by the way. Yeah, your
dad likes to speed. I made occasionally is literally speed
by the way. That is his middle name.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
When uh, when the police officers when they walked into
the house, my nine year old was there and fortunately
we had not had to see police at the house,
and I told him, Hey, you need to go upstairs.
Dad's got to talk to the police officer. And he
came back down later and I was like, hey, do
you know what was going on there? And he said
I was the jaywalking because you're Zoomer.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Super cute of him.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
But my wife is regularly on me because she thinks
I'm sending the boys the wrong message. Like if there's
nobody on the street and we're halfway down a block,
like I'll just cross over, and she always says, walk
down to the crosswalk.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
You're sending bad messages. So that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
You're in New York, You're you're expected to not walk
in the cross carus.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And like, my theory is I would rather go when
there's no cars than hope that somebody's going to stop,
especially in this text message era. But that's what he
thought was going on. But I had to buck. I
had to sit him down and be like, hey, yes,
somebody decided to write a letter to the house and
to say that they want to kill me and you,
by the way, you're a part of the death threat
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here in ten days, like and you know they was
upset in the letter. He said, we're upset basically we
missed Trump. He's clearly a crazy person, But I don't
there are a lot of people having to have this conversation,
But to sit with your nine year old and explain
that somebody wants to kill his dad because he doesn't
like what I say on the radio.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean, just in your mind. Think.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I always like to say this, would a crazy person
do this? And if the answer is yes, don't do that.
And there are a lot of crazy people out there,
and sometimes it takes that little moment of sanity to
just think, hey, is this something that a crazy person
would do. If the answer is yes, don't do it.
But I feel and I said this to my wife
right after we got it. I said, I'm disappointed, I'm
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not surprised, and I think it's going to get so
much worse for so many people over the next hundred days.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So keep your wits about you.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Also, I would say, And first of all, my thoughts
go to you and Laura. You know that's I don't
I don't have kids yet, And I know that's your
first concern always with with anything involved well that's your
first concern period, but your first concern certainly as well
involving anything safety related. As for what you're saying about,
don't get people don't get, you know, too passionate about
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things in a way that they would make bad decisions.
I mean, I've been I remember I was that I
went to an event in New York City. It was
actually a black tie event, and there were lunatics outside
because people like me were going to be there, and
they were like spitting at us and shouting profanity and
everything else. And I just remember thinking at the time,
and this is not new and we're not by the day.
That's not an oh whate was me thing, like whatever,
you know, fighting the communist is going to come with consequences.
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We fight intellectually, ideologically, we fight with words and ideas.
But some of them actually want to well they don't
really want to fight. They want to like mob you
and shout at you.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
But there's.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think going to be some very tough times ahead
politically in the country as we get closer to the election.
And I'll just say this, I mean the other side,
it doesn't matter if it's aberrant, meaning it doesn't matter
if if it's so rare. I mean, look at the riots.
For example, they rioted for all of twenty twenty. What
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is the riot that we heard about for the next
two years? January sixth, that's it. And that was so
you know, the right, some people on the right had
finally had enough and they they crossed the line and
they broke some They broke some things, and they did
some things that they shouldn't have done. The left did
this with the cheering of Kamala Harrison, the money for
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them for all of twenty twenty and it doesn't matter
that it's not fair. They made more. Here is an
uncomfortable truth. The Democrats got more political mileage out of
January sixth, and I'm sorry, but we saw it in
twenty twenty two in the elections. They got more political
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mileage than was taken by the Republicans for an entire
summer of rioty correct with billions of dollars of damage
done with you know, hundreds and hundreds of officers assaulted,
with people who were killed, I mean, just madness, and
they did and explicitly threatening to burn down neighborhoods. I mean,
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you know this because they were having the wood planking op.
And then what they did for the election, I mean
on the election, they we held an election under national duress.
Because the Left were such a bunch of cry baby
psychopaths all summer long, and because they have the media,
and because the Democrats tend toward hysteria and mass delusion
(27:52):
in general, they were able to use January sixth, one
day one protest that got a bit rowdy, and use
that for political gain in a way that really, unfortunately
completely outdid all of what you saw from the twenty
twenty riots of the Democrats, that of BLM. So there's
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the other, there's the I'm just saying there's a political
cost to it all too. So anytime anybody on the
right does something, they will act like it is the norm.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
That's how they are, that's who they are.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I mean people people now all across the left will
say the right are the ones we're violent.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I'm like, what do you know?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I go good on the list. I'm like, you guys,
you guys are unhappy about something. You want to burn
everything down. You want to you know you want to
you want to pack the Supreme Court. You know you
want to throw out our institutions. You want to punch
police officers in the face and get away with it.
They just let the people that were assaulting cops outside
of Union station screaming anti Semitic nonsense. Do you know
they just dropped all the charges against them in DC.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I know.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
So, so someone has to explain this to me. You know,
you shove a cop on January sixth. You are treated
like and I and really I mean this. You are
treated like somebody who who is a threat to the
national security of the United States. In your incarceration conditions,
you are held in solitary. You are held for eighteen
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months or more without trial. Judges say if you were
released again, you might try another insurrection. We're talking about
middle aged folks who got a little too upset about
something and shoved their punched an officer. Nobody killed any cops,
nobody tried to kill any cops. We all know what
the actual footage shows. And then they show us cops
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being manhandled, shoved and punched, and it's just like another
day another It's like a Tuesday for Democrats.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
And I think what they will do is riot in
Chicago for their convention. We'll see whether it happens. I
think that there will be a lot of kids back
intents in August and September over what's going on in Israel.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
We'll see if I'm right.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I think in November they'll put the plywood up again
and implicitly threaten if Trump wins, we're gonna riot. That
is the threat that they're making, and to your point,
all of you out there need to consider this. They
will because they have prosecuting power in many different places,
and unlike a lot of Republicans, they use it. They
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will throw the full book of justice at you, while
many around you may be engaging in far worse behavior
because of you.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And I think we have to be reminded, first of all,
even if we win, it's never done right. It's never
the work is never over the defense of this republic
and of our civilization, and of our values, and of
this country, which, for all of its faults, is still
the greatest and most amazing political experiment in the history
of humankind mankind. Sorry, we're the ones who have to
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hold it all together, Clay.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yes, you know, we can't freak out.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
We can't decide to throw up our hands in despair,
and we can't decide to throw out our principles and
dispense with virtue and the pursuit of trying to achieve
something in the moment that will be ephemeral no matter what,
you know. So we have to always remember that we're
the ones that hold this whole thing together, and the
people that shriek and scream and want socialism and communism
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and anarchy and Islamism and whatever go down the list.
They're lucky we're around because we're the ones who keep
this whole thing going. We're the ones who keep it
all together. Aydevinn't have to break it to them. We
are the sanity.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
We are the ones. We're the watchers on the wall.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
To borrow from a game of Thrones, right, we are
the one that is getting ready to hold back the
zombie hordes. Well, anyway, that's how I see it. So
we'll take some of your calls to close us out here.
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Welcome back, in here to Clay and Buck. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Clay really appreciates it.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
All the emails and calls and everything flooding in right
now with your support after Clay told about the the
the death threat. I mean, I'll be honest, because it
went to Clay and the mail, I think it's much more.
You know, I'm like floating in the wind in Florida somewhere.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So for Clay, it's.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Well, I think for you and me both, I'm not. Look,
we've gotten a lot of crazy stuff on social media
over the years. With what we say. People are not happy.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So yeah, I get death threats, but it's usually from
you know, a Twitter account that's like Communists two five,
Socialist five seven or something, and maybe maybe you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Shouldn't do this, But like digital death threats or they
just they don't land the same way as arriving at
your home. I think maybe probably because the digital stuff
is directly targeted at me, and I just I don't
have a lot of fear in my life, but to
go to someone's home seems to me to be a
clear threat at the family as well, which is just
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beyond the pale to me. So I hope they catch
this guy. But I really do think the story here
is this guy's not alone, especially in this election cycle.
Don't allow yourself to be in this kind of mindset. Well, look,
I mean, but this is a whole level beyond too write.
This is someone who's mentally mentally ill probably I mean yeah,
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to write a letter or handwritten letter to threaten people
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any evildoers.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Keep your head on a swivel. Guys, love you, Thank
you very much, Kendra. We appreciate that. Let's take we
have John in Saint Louis, Missouri. What's going on, John?
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Okay, how you guys doing. I was kind of looking
at a different angle than I ever heard on this election.
And you know, Trump wins Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, and Biden
wins Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. He winds up with two
hundred and seventy roads and wins. But there's one little
electoral electoral road in Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, put it.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I think they too. But if Trump goes to Nebraska.
Nobody's that's probably never been a presidential ever to Nebraska.
He goes out there and makes the case, you want
to vote for a San Francisco Liberal, you want to
vote for me, you can squeeze out that vote. I'm
not really familiar with the district, but.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Basically which we have.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
We have kfab out there are fantastic Heritage Radio station,
but uh uh, you know, there's a lot. There's a
lot of Democrats in Omaha, is what I'm trying to
say on.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
His crisier there that he laid out as an important one.
It's not crazy to think that Democrats could lose Arizona, Nevada,
and Georgia.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Trump is favored in all three of those right now,
but if.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
They win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan and Omaha, Biden would
win the election.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
So Omaha. This is crazy to think about, Buck because if.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's two sixty nine to sixty nine, it goes to
the House of Representatives and Republicans would win that race.
So Omaha, Nebraska could decide in that scenario. He just
laid out the next president of the United States. So
if you're listening to us in Omaha, that electoral vote.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
It matters in a big way.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Known for football Cordon Stakes and Berkshire Hathaway and perhaps.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
College World Series, but maybe also the election. What sport
baseball's play.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, that was just there.
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find us. Okay, early news today Buck was that Joe
Biden has decided that it's time to fix the Supreme Court.
Oh boy, Now this is weird to use a Democrat
word that they're trying to own. But it's very strange,
and I think calls into point of contention how odd
(01:40):
it is to have a sitting president who is eligible
to run for.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Reelection not running for reelection.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So Biden is just sitting there and he's got five
months ish theoretically left in his term. Basically nothing's going
to get done because he has no political power, he
has no ability to move anything really through Congress, and
he's decided that he's going to try and remedy the
Supreme Court. And it's odd that you would have a
guy who spends fifty years in elected office suddenly decide,
(02:13):
for instance, that Supreme Court justices should only have eighteen
year terms.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He wants there to be.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
An amendment to overrule the presidential immunity decision, which I
actually thought was a good decision that has come down
so far from the Supreme Court. It's a pretty radical
proposition that he's endorsed. But it's strange to me, and
I'm curious if it felt the same to you, because
this was my initial thought. If somebody wants to go
(02:39):
after changing the Supreme Court, it should be Kamala Harris,
because she's the person who's actually running for election, and
in theory, if people agree with her on that, then
she could have the ability to try and implement this policy.
But to have Biden arguing it feels awkward and doesn't
make a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, we know that it gets the Democrat basics.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I did, because one of the.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Problems for their get Trump efforts, for example, has been
that the Supreme Court can weigh in and put an
end to the lawlessness. Lawlessness done in the name of law,
which is what the entire campaign against Donald Trump using
prosecutor's offices, including an illegitimate special counsel a not really
duly appointed special counsel in this case, Jack Smith. But
(03:28):
it's also a reminder of a constant truth with Democrats,
which is that an institution that they control in partisan
ways is inviolate, sacred, enduring, and demands and deserves all
of our respect. An institution of any kind, particularly government, though,
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that they cannot rely on to give them the desired
partisan outcome needs reform, corrupt needs work, look at the
Ethics Code. This is all just a function of they
know that even if Kamala were to win in this election,
you are likely to have a right of majority Supreme
Court through her term and perhaps for several terms after that.
(04:15):
And they're very bitter about that. And it's also, of
course Trump's most enduring legacy in a sense. They've talked
about court packing. They've taught this has only happened really
in the era of they no longer have a Supreme
Court as a pseudo super legislature for them.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
That's all this is.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And isn't it interesting though, that suddenly, when he's resigning
effectively after fifty years, he suddenly comes out in favor
of term limits for Supreme Court justices, but not term
limits for politicians. If I had to choose, and I
bet most of you would agree. I think that lifetime
tenure makes a lot of sense for many judges out
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there because in the it keeps them from being bound
by the electoral process, which is in theory what you want, right,
But I would like to have term limits for many
different congressional leaders out there, like, hey, do you really
need more than twelve or eighteen years in the Senate
if you're doing actually really good work. Now I understand
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the argument that you're at least at the beck and
call of the voter. The voter can remove you at
some point in time. So Biden had to get elected
fifteen eighteen times, whatever the heck. He had to get
elected over his fifty year ten years.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
This also forgets the whole reason why we have lifetime appointments.
But by the way, Supreme Court justices and federal judges,
which is there supposed to be above, above and outside
the political frame. And Biden, because he can't count on
and the Democrats can count on a Supreme court of
activists who make the law up as they go to suit.
(05:55):
Democrat needs in the moment, which is one hundred percent
what was going on with the previous court makeup before
Trump got three picks. You know, you see this and
you say to yourself, it couldn't be any more obvious.
This is just blatant power politics. The Supreme Court isn't
supposed to be a popularity contest every few years or
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a few terms or whatever it is. You know, a
Supreme Court justice spent eighteen years in active service. It's interesting.
I think this is also his effort to suggest that
he is part of solving the problem of people who
are too old and won't let it go. Now, you know,
he's flipping the script. Think about that, right, Well, we
can't have Supreme Court justices who are in their eighties.
(06:38):
Clay Joe Biden is leading that charge. Now, look at
how he's switched sides.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, And I also think it is part and parcel
of unfortunately what's occurred, which is, if you really dislike
a Supreme Court ruling, Congress has the.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Ability to overrule the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Right, you just have to get a lot of people
by legislative authority by and large to do something. For instance,
if you really hate the Dobbs decision, and you think
the Dobbs decision is the worst thing that's ever happened,
get sixty votes basically, and decide that you're going to
nationalize the abortion issue and take it on from the
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political process and take it out of the Supreme Court's hands.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
One of the things that I think a lot of
people have done a poor job of, although I think
a lot of the fear on abortion is down drastically
compared to twenty twenty two. But what the Supreme Court
actually did in Dabbs is the single most democratic thing
they could possibly have done. They gave every state the
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right to decide what they think the law should be,
as opposed to nine justices parachuting in and saying what
the law is.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Isn't that a great thing?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Truly?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Are democracy defenders, which is what democrats try to claim
that they are. This is the best possible democratic ruling
that a Supreme Court could have ever given you, because
it throws back to the states a question of intense
interest and allows the national debate to take place and
democracy to flourish pro or con on what the law
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of the land should be. And yet I think a
lot of people have missed that. I haven't heard Republicans
make that good of an argument. Now, Trump, to his credit,
has said, hey, it's now a state issue, we don't
need to focus on it very much. But I haven't
heard very many people take the next step and say
in actually, if you want to be arguing that you're
defenders of democracy, this is the amazing democratic process. Like
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you can go out in any state in America and
decide what you think the law is, advocate for it,
pass laws. It returned the power to the people from
the court. Far from being a usurpation of power from
the Supreme Court, exact opposite. It actually gave the entire
American public the opportunity to make a rational choice as
to what they think the law should be. And I
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think that's one reason abortion doesn't have the pop that
I think the Kabla Harrises of the world are hoping
that it will this election.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So, you know, when you talk about having principle, principle
would mean there is something that you recognize that is
in and of itself an important good or goal. And
the problem with Democrats is they don't actually have principles,
They just have power pursuits. So I've mentioned it before,
but there's the great Frank Herbert quote from Children of
(09:35):
Dooon not as good as Doune. From what I understand,
when I am weaker than you, I ask for freedom
because that is according to your principles. When I am
stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that
is according to my principles. That is how democrats operate,
with all institutions of government, with all the apparatus of
power that they have access to. It's always if I'm
(09:58):
winning democrat, see is sacred, and if I'm getting my way,
this institution is to be cherished. If I don't tear
it down, it's bad because there is no adherence to
a principle. The principle being that even if you don't
like something, there's a reason why we have it chosen
this way because people will disagree, and there should be
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some system in place that allows for people to have
a say, the people to have a say in their destiny.
They don't really buy they don't really believe it. Look
at Venezuela. I was mentioning it before they all of
a sudden, the Maduro government in Venezuela is saying no
one is allowed to watch the ballot counting going on
in all these different precincts there.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
First of all, a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Are saying, hmm, interesting, sounds like some stuff that I've
heard of before. Also very clear that when by the way,
I have no doubt that Maduro won the first election,
because you know, according to his principles, when he can win, great,
But I have plenty of reasona believe that he's cheating
in this election because it it's never about the principle.
It is about being in charge and having authority over others.
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And Democrats and Maduro are much closer than people want
to believe in the mainstream in this country. Unfortunately, the
only thing stopping us from going full Venezuela is all
the Republicans were saying, stop being such lunatics.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And frankly, a lot of Venezuelan refugees who are now
citizens here and see better than most what can happen
when you actually vote socialists into power. Yeah, I mean,
look at I live in one of the most densely
populated communist refuge areas of the entire nation, which is
South Florida. Historically, clearly, the refugees from Cuba, including some
(11:39):
very mentor of mine. Some very good friends of mine,
one of whom was actually.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
At the Bay of Pigs, fought at the Bay of Pigs,
was captured there, and they understand the evil of communism.
Communism was sold as being a great thing in Cuba.
Of course, as it always is, same thing has happened
in Venezuela. Every newscaster in the country loves to talk
about the one stat we all know about Venezuela large
proven oil reserves in the world. Although it's like heavy crude,
(12:03):
it's not you know, you have to refine it. They
can't even refine the oil they have. That's a whole
other thing. But the truth is that the socialism versus
communism debate isn't worth the semantics. The same dynamics were
at play of envy and promises that would never be
kept in Cuba that were at play in Venezuela. And
now guess what, they're stuck with it because it just
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goes back to the core point. It's not about principle
and clay with the Democrat and the Supreme Court. If
they aren't getting their way, there is no principle that
the Supreme Court upholds that is worthwhile it's all about
the outcome, you see, You know what I mean? Now,
it's just and that's the way they always are.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But are you with me that it feels weird to
have Biden trying to make this argument. If somebody wanted
to make the argument, it feels like it should be
Kamala Harris. I don't really know, because we haven't had
a situation like this going all the way back to
nineteen sixty eight where we've had somebody in the presidency
who was not termal limited out that is basically choosing
(13:03):
like LBJ did in theory, choose, but they forced him out.
But like, what does Biden do the next five months?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think it's prepping the ground for his base to
be very disappointed over Supreme Court decisions that may come
down on the law fair cases against Trump if it
goes there on, if there's election issues or disputes that happen,
you know, if there's an election dispute that makes its
way up to the Supreme Court. This time, Democrats know
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it as a rubber stamp for their side, so they
undermine it in advance as part of softening up the
opposition on the battlefield.
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Travis and Buck Sexton, welcome back in here to Clay
and Buck. Who is going to be Kamala's VP. This
is getting a lot of attention now we know who
Trump's VP is. We start out in the first hour
(15:24):
discussing how suddenly there's all this attention on jd Vance
for being weird, and that's just particularly bizarre. So I
think he's one of the least weird individuals we've seen
in American politics at a high level in a long time.
And I think that the Harris campaign, more so than
the Trump campaign, is hoping that there's something that can
(15:49):
be done with a VP that will deliver a state. Right,
That's that's a big part of this as well. I
have to say, Clay, I think it is. I think
it is likely to be either the astronaut or governor
Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania. Is there anyone else who you
think is really top of the list right now? Still
(16:11):
people have said Basher, you know that guy pretty well.
He's from a neighboring state. I don't think he has
the name recognition, and I think his name is kind
of hard to spell. And I know that sounds ridiculous,
but I feel like he doesn't bring enough to it.
I think, you know, an astronaut from Arizona people get
excited about, and the governor of Pennsylvania. That's just to
win Pennsylvania, that's all.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That is the thing that I think is fascinating about
the calculus is the clear choice should be Shapiro, the
Jewish Democrat governor from Pennsylvania, because there is almost no
map that allows Democrats to win the race without winning Pennsylvania.
Got to win a lot of states, but Pennsylvania basically
(16:51):
is a must have. The challenge is and I guarantee
you that they are doing the math on this. Does
Josh Shapiro, because he's Jewish, turn off much of the
anti Semitic left wing base of the Democrat Party that
is rooted to a certain degree in Michigan, another must
(17:11):
win state, and all Trump has to do is win
one of Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania, just one of those states,
and he's going to be president of the United States.
So how does Kamala balance that. It could be that
Mark Kelly is the safe pick in quotation marks, but
I don't think he delivers Arizona, And so I think
(17:33):
she's going to end up with Josh Shapiro because his
state is so much more important. But right now they're
trying to figure out whether she can do that given
the incredible anti semitism inside of the Democrat Party. Buck
isn't that a crazy flaw of the Democrats? Can you
imagine if there were a Republican candidate who made total sense,
(17:55):
but people wouldn't put him on the ticket because.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
He was Jewish? It would be a huge story. Talk
about that a little bit when come back.
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Speaker 3 (19:00):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I want to mention this because I tweeted about it.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
You know about it. We got at the house.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I just want you to hear it from me because
I don't want there's people who are writing about it now.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
We got at the house on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
A handwritten death threat delivered to the house Minneapolis postage Mark,
if any of you are able to help in any
way with that in the Minneapolis area, I think, I
know we have a big audience there. I know that
(19:35):
there are going to be people doing an investigation into it.
So if you're in that Minneapolis area and you see somebody,
I would love to catch this person. They threatened Buck,
they threatened me, said they were going to kill us
in ten days. A serious thing. Obviously coming to the house.
Kids not very excited, as you can well imagine to
(19:57):
see police in the house conducting an investigation. The reason
why I bring it up is one, I hope they
catch this guy. But two, I think for all of
you out there, the next one hundred days are going
to be incredibly emotional. There will probably be a lot
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of moments where you're very angry, maybe where you're very happy,
but an emotional roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Be careful, be careful out there.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I saw this story Buck, I don't think we even
hardly mentioned it up upstate Michigan. Did you see the
guy eighty year old guy is putting a Trump sign
out in his yard and a twenty year old roughly
drove over him, and then the twenty year old ended
up killing himself. I don't think that most of you
(20:51):
think of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan as being the
kind of place where political passions run so wild that
you would see an elderly man with a sign, whether
it's a Biden sign, a Harris sign, a Trump sign,
whatever it is, and your thought would be, I got
to run this guy over, and you saw what just
(21:12):
happened to Trump. There is a lot I feel a
lot of it is on the left. Let's be clear,
there is a lot of anger out there. There is
a lot of it feels to me boiling point violence
level behavior. And I want every single one of you
(21:34):
that listens to us to do your absolute best to
pledge it that you are going to maintain control of
your faculties, because buck, in the wake of the Trump assassination,
I think many of you were as angry as I was,
as angry as you were. Emotion often doesn't lead to
(21:55):
rational choices, and I just want all of you to
be careful because not only do we want everybody to
be safe and not commit violent crimes, but also understand
that there is this undercurrent. People want to catch you,
People want there is I really believe this, They want
to find Trump supporters who they believe are engaging in violence.
(22:20):
They want you to exist. Don't give them that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Be smarter.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And whoever this idiot is, that's writing you know, death threats.
Don't I mean, don't send dad threats to people on
social media. But there's something about a written letter that
is just creepy arriving at the house, like be cognizant
of just basic humanity. I had to tell my nine
(22:47):
year old Buck when the police came a little bit
of a funny moment. He thought that the police were
there because I jaywalk a lot.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That's what I would have thought.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It was my dad's speeding by the way. Yeah, your
dad likes to speed. I made occasionally is literally speed
by the way. That is his middle name.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
When uh, when the police officers when they walked into
the house, my nine year old was there and fortunately
we had not had to see police at the house,
and I told him, Hey, you need to go upstairs.
Dad's got to talk to the police officer. And he
came back down later and I was like, hey, do
you know what was going on there? And he said
I was the jaywalking because you're Zoomer.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Super cute of him.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
But my wife is regularly on me because she thinks
I'm sending the boys the wrong message. Like if there's
nobody on the street and we're halfway down a block,
like I'll just cross over, and she always says, walk
down to the crosswalk.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
You're sending bad messages. So that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
You're in New York, You're you're expected to not walk
in the cross carus.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And like, my theory is I would rather go when
there's no cars than hope that somebody's going to stop,
especially in this text message era. But that's what he
thought was going on. But I had to buck. I
had to sit him down and be like, hey, yes,
somebody decided to write a letter to the house and
to say that they want to kill me and you,
by the way, you're a part of the death threat
(24:09):
here in ten days, like and you know they was
upset in the letter. He said, we're upset basically we
missed Trump. He's clearly a crazy person, But I don't
there are a lot of people having to have this conversation,
But to sit with your nine year old and explain
that somebody wants to kill his dad because he doesn't
like what I say on the radio.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean, just in your mind. Think.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I always like to say this, would a crazy person
do this? And if the answer is yes, don't do that.
And there are a lot of crazy people out there,
and sometimes it takes that little moment of sanity to
just think, hey, is this something that a crazy person
would do. If the answer is yes, don't do it.
But I feel and I said this to my wife
right after we got it. I said, I'm disappointed, I'm
(24:54):
not surprised, and I think it's going to get so
much worse for so many people over the next hundred days.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So keep your wits about you.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Also, I would say, And first of all, my thoughts
go to you and Laura. You know that's I don't
I don't have kids yet, And I know that's your
first concern always with with anything involved well that's your
first concern period, but your first concern certainly as well
involving anything safety related. As for what you're saying about,
don't get people don't get, you know, too passionate about
(25:23):
things in a way that they would make bad decisions.
I mean, I've been I remember I was that I
went to an event in New York City. It was
actually a black tie event, and there were lunatics outside
because people like me were going to be there, and
they were like spitting at us and shouting profanity and
everything else. And I just remember thinking at the time,
and this is not new and we're not by the day.
That's not an oh whate was me thing, like whatever,
you know, fighting the communist is going to come with consequences.
(25:45):
We fight intellectually, ideologically, we fight with words and ideas.
But some of them actually want to well they don't
really want to fight. They want to like mob you
and shout at you.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
But there's.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think going to be some very tough times ahead
politically in the country as we get closer to the election.
And I'll just say this, I mean the other side,
it doesn't matter if it's aberrant, meaning it doesn't matter
if if it's so rare. I mean, look at the riots.
For example, they rioted for all of twenty twenty. What
(26:20):
is the riot that we heard about for the next
two years? January sixth, that's it. And that was so
you know, the right, some people on the right had
finally had enough and they they crossed the line and
they broke some They broke some things, and they did
some things that they shouldn't have done. The left did
this with the cheering of Kamala Harrison, the money for
(26:44):
them for all of twenty twenty and it doesn't matter
that it's not fair. They made more. Here is an
uncomfortable truth. The Democrats got more political mileage out of
January sixth, and I'm sorry, but we saw it in
twenty twenty two in the elections. They got more political
(27:06):
mileage than was taken by the Republicans for an entire
summer of rioty correct with billions of dollars of damage
done with you know, hundreds and hundreds of officers assaulted,
with people who were killed, I mean, just madness, and
they did and explicitly threatening to burn down neighborhoods. I mean,
(27:31):
you know this because they were having the wood planking op.
And then what they did for the election, I mean
on the election, they we held an election under national duress.
Because the Left were such a bunch of cry baby
psychopaths all summer long, and because they have the media,
and because the Democrats tend toward hysteria and mass delusion
(27:52):
in general, they were able to use January sixth, one
day one protest that got a bit rowdy, and use
that for political gain in a way that really, unfortunately
completely outdid all of what you saw from the twenty
twenty riots of the Democrats, that of BLM. So there's
(28:12):
the other, there's the I'm just saying there's a political
cost to it all too. So anytime anybody on the
right does something, they will act like it is the norm.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
That's how they are, that's who they are.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I mean people people now all across the left will
say the right are the ones we're violent.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I'm like, what do you know?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I go good on the list. I'm like, you guys,
you guys are unhappy about something. You want to burn
everything down. You want to you know you want to
you want to pack the Supreme Court. You know you
want to throw out our institutions. You want to punch
police officers in the face and get away with it.
They just let the people that were assaulting cops outside
of Union station screaming anti Semitic nonsense. Do you know
they just dropped all the charges against them in DC.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I know.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
So, so someone has to explain this to me. You know,
you shove a cop on January sixth. You are treated
like and I and really I mean this. You are
treated like somebody who who is a threat to the
national security of the United States. In your incarceration conditions,
you are held in solitary. You are held for eighteen
(29:10):
months or more without trial. Judges say if you were
released again, you might try another insurrection. We're talking about
middle aged folks who got a little too upset about
something and shoved their punched an officer. Nobody killed any cops,
nobody tried to kill any cops. We all know what
the actual footage shows. And then they show us cops
(29:30):
being manhandled, shoved and punched, and it's just like another
day another It's like a Tuesday for Democrats.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
And I think what they will do is riot in
Chicago for their convention. We'll see whether it happens. I
think that there will be a lot of kids back
intents in August and September over what's going on in Israel.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
We'll see if I'm right.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I think in November they'll put the plywood up again
and implicitly threaten if Trump wins, we're gonna riot. That
is the threat that they're making, and to your point,
all of you out there need to consider this. They
will because they have prosecuting power in many different places,
and unlike a lot of Republicans, they use it. They
(30:14):
will throw the full book of justice at you, while
many around you may be engaging in far worse behavior
because of you.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And I think we have to be reminded, first of all,
even if we win, it's never done right. It's never
the work is never over the defense of this republic
and of our civilization, and of our values, and of
this country, which, for all of its faults, is still
the greatest and most amazing political experiment in the history
of humankind mankind. Sorry, we're the ones who have to
(30:45):
hold it all together, Clay.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yes, you know, we can't freak out.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
We can't decide to throw up our hands in despair,
and we can't decide to throw out our principles and
dispense with virtue and the pursuit of trying to achieve
something in the moment that will be ephemeral no matter what,
you know. So we have to always remember that we're
the ones that hold this whole thing together, and the
people that shriek and scream and want socialism and communism
(31:12):
and anarchy and Islamism and whatever go down the list.
They're lucky we're around because we're the ones who keep
this whole thing going. We're the ones who keep it
all together. Aydevinn't have to break it to them. We
are the sanity.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
We are the ones. We're the watchers on the wall.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
To borrow from a game of Thrones, right, we are
the one that is getting ready to hold back the
zombie hordes. Well, anyway, that's how I see it. So
we'll take some of your calls to close us out here.
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Speaker 2 (33:19):
Welcome back, in here to Clay and Buck. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Clay really appreciates it.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
All the emails and calls and everything flooding in right
now with your support after Clay told about the the
the death threat. I mean, I'll be honest, because it
went to Clay and the mail, I think it's much more.
You know, I'm like floating in the wind in Florida somewhere.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So for Clay, it's.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Well, I think for you and me both, I'm not. Look,
we've gotten a lot of crazy stuff on social media
over the years. With what we say. People are not happy.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So yeah, I get death threats, but it's usually from
you know, a Twitter account that's like Communists two five,
Socialist five seven or something, and maybe maybe you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Shouldn't do this, But like digital death threats or they
just they don't land the same way as arriving at
your home. I think maybe probably because the digital stuff
is directly targeted at me, and I just I don't
have a lot of fear in my life, but to
go to someone's home seems to me to be a
clear threat at the family as well, which is just
(34:17):
beyond the pale to me. So I hope they catch
this guy. But I really do think the story here
is this guy's not alone, especially in this election cycle.
Don't allow yourself to be in this kind of mindset. Well, look,
I mean, but this is a whole level beyond too write.
This is someone who's mentally mentally ill probably I mean yeah,
(34:40):
to write a letter or handwritten letter to threaten people
in the mail. I mean, he said he's gonna come
after me too. That's that's a level beyond. Kendra writes
in I'm praying for God to thwart the plans of
any evildoers.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Keep your head on a swivel. Guys, love you, Thank
you very much, Kendra. We appreciate that. Let's take we
have John in Saint Louis, Missouri. What's going on, John?
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Okay, how you guys doing. I was kind of looking
at a different angle than I ever heard on this election.
And you know, Trump wins Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, and Biden
wins Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. He winds up with two
hundred and seventy roads and wins. But there's one little
electoral electoral road in Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, put it.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I think they too. But if Trump goes to Nebraska.
Nobody's that's probably never been a presidential ever to Nebraska.
He goes out there and makes the case, you want
to vote for a San Francisco Liberal, you want to
vote for me, you can squeeze out that vote. I'm
not really familiar with the district, but.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Basically which we have.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
We have kfab out there are fantastic Heritage Radio station,
but uh uh, you know, there's a lot. There's a
lot of Democrats in Omaha, is what I'm trying to
say on.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
His crisier there that he laid out as an important one.
It's not crazy to think that Democrats could lose Arizona, Nevada,
and Georgia.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Trump is favored in all three of those right now,
but if.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
They win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan and Omaha, Biden would
win the election.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
So Omaha. This is crazy to think about, Buck because if.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's two sixty nine to sixty nine, it goes to
the House of Representatives and Republicans would win that race.
So Omaha, Nebraska could decide in that scenario. He just
laid out the next president of the United States. So
if you're listening to us in Omaha, that electoral vote.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
It matters in a big way.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Known for football Cordon Stakes and Berkshire Hathaway and perhaps.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
College World Series, but maybe also the election. What sport
baseball's play.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, that was just there.
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