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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bold, reverent, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang With Playing podcast.
It starts now, it's heard, it's playing.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's Stan Kane. Yes, here is no never.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
You're getting called Superman good heavens a lot worse, Yeah,
sir jin Kane of a Superman on television fame and
also now an out conservative, which must be interesting. As
a former California we have a lot of things ask
you about. I know you're promoting your movie God is
Not Dead, the fifth in the series of that very
successful franchise, but you are a form I'm a former
(00:41):
New Yorker now at Floridian. You're a former Californian now
at Nevadada.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
How is that going for you? It's going very very well.
If you'd told me.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
First of all, I thought Vegas, you know, living in
Vegas would be insane. But I live outside of Vegas,
and I don't go to the strip like in Malu.
I didn't go to the you know, Hollywood often, and
that's both. So I absolutely love it. Not to mention
that the personal income tax rate is zero versus fourteen
point three in California for the upper earners, which I
(01:11):
am blessed to be an upper earner. So that's a
great thing. Life is so much more simple for me
in Nevada. I love it to death. I fear they're
gonna come and grab me and make me come back.
You know, I feel like Gavin Newsom himself.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Weren't they thinking about doing something with the claw mar.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yes, they were, of course they were, because they're hemorrhaging people.
And you know, all the Californians that are listening out
there that love you guys, are probably stuck. They probably
can't afford to get out. They make it so expensive
to do anything, and you know they have put a
match in tax on you if you if you sell
your I saw that.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I mean, that stuff is crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Fortunately, Malibu is not part of LA so I got
out and that thing didn't affect me.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But I would have been ticked off. So tell me this.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I got a lot of friends in LA because I
Fox Sports is based there.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I've spent a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I was talking with a buddy recently and he said,
Hollywood and l A in general used to be the
place for eccentrics where different thinkers. Your dad made the
movie Young Guns, which, by the way, I love, where
extend original My.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Dad producing direct.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I watched that VHS so many times, every line from
that movie from my brothers and I I did not
realize this. I think it's actually one of the most
underrated westerns because it's not part of that great Clint
Eastwood spaghetti western exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Anyway, I'm sorry. Did Young Guns too as well?
Speaker 5 (02:28):
He did not like this is you used to have
a wide variety of opinions and worldviews welcomed and that
led to great creative course. When did you start to
notice it changing and turning into a one party state?
(02:48):
As a guy who grew up out there, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It was a subtle It's the change always comes very subtly,
and I would I would hear that going on. And
you know when you when you first become you know,
a television star back in the day anyway, and probably
still the same now as you get a publicist and
your publicist like you have to have a charity that
you support, you have to have and I was like, look,
I'm twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You know. My charity was pay my rent. And I
was like, what do I have to support things? Look?
Can that happen organically? Please? You know?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
But no, they were like they break it down for you.
So I think, I just I guess maybe it was
me getting older. When I had a kid. I mean,
when I had a kid, everything the whole world changed
for me because suddenly I wasn't the most important thing
in the world, and I changed everything. But I changed
the movies, I did, the TV shows I did. Everything changed,
and I became a father. As the reason I stopped
doing a series is because I wanted to be a dad,
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so im my values were changing at the same time
that these things were sort of sneaking in there. And
I you know, obviously COVID, we you know, it was
a huge part of it, but it was happening before COVID.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's been happening for a long time.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I realized that, I you know, when it started,
the anti police sort of movement started going every time
I'm a deputy, I'm a sworn deputy sheriff with with
your last guest, I serve in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I served for him. Oh that's fantastic, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So yeah, I'm a fully sworn a deputy sheriff in
in in Frederick County, Virginia. I'm I'm a reserve police
officer in Pocatello. I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
These are the values that I felt were right.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
So when people did the opposite and they started going to,
you know, anti police, writer can defund the police, I said,
you know what I spoke up against that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
They're like, well, you speak up agains, what is that?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I said, all right, then I'll join and I have
and I've been doing that, so that's just sort of
built in my character. But I've watched it happen. I mean,
it's it's accelerating now, like crazy. Yeah, but but I
think there's been a backlash and the pendulum is swinging back.
You know, go wo go broke is look at the
shows and things were put you know, Hollywood's putting out
it's just not you know, that Star Wars thing isn't
doing so well right now. Uh, and that thing is
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just getting eviscerated. I don't even want to watch it.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But this is this what's happening all over the place.
I was wondering, how tell everybody a little bit about
the film.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Because we've only got you for about another minute. Okay, sure,
I was.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I was gonna ask you something else about politics, but actually.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I was talking about Yeah, see the god said. That
is the fifth and the franchise.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
The first one, God's Not Dead, was ten years ago,
and I played a bad guy in that one, a
guy who didn't have any redemptive qualities, but much like myself, you.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Know, a Godist. Yeah, well, he wasn't a communist. He
was a capitalist.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
And then some really okay, and then some but he
is you know, his fiance tells him, you know, I've
got cancer, and he's like, if you can work that out,
then you can come back, you know, but that's not
my problem to deal with.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
He's that kind of a guy. And then they've done.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Four other or three other professor, right, he doesn't survive
it anyway, spoiler alert. But my my character comes back
in this fifth one. It's called God's Not Dead in
God We Trust and and it's it's about a pastor
who ends up having to run for a congressional seat.
And then it's the question about you know, uh, the
separation of church and state, and.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Where does God belong in in.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
In politics and in our lives. You know, they're they're
pushing God. I mean, God's not mentioned in the Constitution
at all, but he is mentioned in and in the
Declaration of Independence, the pledge of allegiance, UH, on your money,
and God we trust. And the founders were they believed
in God, and it was a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And so the question is how much this and I
believe with what.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
President's gonna trum Trump's gonna say tomorrow night, that you know,
God had a hand and turning his head and.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
That to finish the question, You've done a lot of
Hollywood shows. How cinematic and unbelievable was Trump's reaction to
surviving the assassination attempt. From an actor perspective, we talked
about it felt like a Hollywood movie.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
If you wrote that, they'd be like, that's too unbelievable,
you know. And and so I can't even put it
into words. That's one of the most powerful things I've
ever seen. And it speaks to his character and I
you know, look, I'm a I'm a police officer. I've
been with our military all over the place. People get
shot or shot at, they react very differently. It's like
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I was a professional football player before. You know, you
get players, you know, great in practice, game time starts
and yeah, something happens to him and other people just
rise up.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
President Trump rose up.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It was one of the most amazing things I've seen
in that image of him with his hand up, the
flag upside down behind him and blood trickling down his face,
and that face that he made the fight.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It was a seminal moment.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Sunday Hay with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
We're joined now by Jesse Kelly, who has pronounced himself
sunglasses indoors guy and is doing this interview for those
of you watching on video in sunglass.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Tom Cruise and Jerry Maguire except eight feet.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So I want to start with one compliment before I
have a criticism.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
While you are rapidly balding.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Oh, while you are rapidly balding, I am actually impressed.
You have your hair cut short. You have a better
hairline than I was anticipating. So I want to start
with praise. The hairline is not collapsing as quickly as
I thought based on all of the public commentary.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So I'm giving you compliment.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I understand why you would go sunglasses inside, because then
people don't notice how quick your hair is balding.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That's agic play.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I don't I don't hate it, so you can respond
to that in a second. But also the attack on
ordering Brussels sprouts. I got to be honest, I did
not see it. It was the pearl Harbor of food
order attacks.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's gone viral.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah, like everybody's weighing in. I didn't even think russell
sprouts were an unacceptable order for.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
A man to make. They were deep, they were they
were delicious, so.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Well, okay, First of all, on the hairline, I had
to I had to make the choice many men have
had to make. When do you rip the cord? When
do you pull the parachute cord?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It was fading.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
The hairline in the front was retreating towards my ears.
And look, the bottom line is, you want to get
out too early, not too late.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I agree, we want to be out too early.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Not too late. And I'm so naturally handsome anyway. I
didn't need hair.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
I don't need hair, just like superfluous for your attractive well,
of course you you'd be in deep trouble.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I would be me. I don't need it, really, I
didn't even really need a body. When you have a
face like this, that's one.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Two.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Don't ever try to defend Brussels sprouts to me again.
You sit down in a restaurant with within the things
like there was art of joke dip on there. There
were all kinds of cheesy items and savory items, and
you ordered the thing some vegan chick would order, and.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You're the one who ordered it. And it was like
for the table too. And you notice that people, I
thought I was being selfless? Did you expect me to
be attacked for the Brussels sprouts order.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I feel like I'm caught in the middle here because
I got to back my partner's place. So I did
eat some of said Brussels spring They were somewhat delicious. However,
would it be my go to for the appetite? People
have pointed this out. Appetize around not side order with
your steak, for example, do you go Brussels right up front?
I will say it's not a full communist move, but
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it's definitely socialism in the direction of community.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I ordered five appetizers for the whole table, again selfless
generosity for me, and I just I'm gonna die on
Brussels sprouts hill because I don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's about joy.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Want to point out that that the the the situation
here or such that Jesse Kelly was invited to the
Clay Travis extravaganza last night because of the JD Vance bet,
and Jesse said, I'm not eating any of that fancy craft.
I'm just going to a chicken wings stand, and that
is what he did. So is this a man who
really knows food? I put it to the jury.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I am the menu whisper one and two. Don't defend
Brussels sprouts when you do this thing everyone does. No. No,
they're deep fried. No, we put them in, we put
bacon in there. Yes, you could take Rachel Levine's jockstrap in,
deep fry it and put bacon on it and it
would taste good. That's not a defense of Brussels sprouts.
If you have to deep fried and put bacon on it,
it sucks.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm speechless right now. I got what do you got on?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I'm just I can't take my mind off the jockstrap thought.
Now for a minute back, I will say, I'm I'm
gonna I'm gonna put.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It on a pole.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I also will point out Jesse didn't buy any alcohol
again last night.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh sprouts for the table. Also bought all the beer
and liquor last night.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Gave my credit card over selflessly because I am a
giver for all.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
That's part of the reason I'm so mad about the
Brussels sprouts.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I bought that night.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
They were like us, well, iHeart bought, but you gave
an iHeart crime. By the way, you guys but have
I Heart credit cards, you have expense accounts. I'm the
only person at iHeart who doesn't have an iHeart credit card.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And I still have piggybanks. We're saving.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
And how am I the only person on the air
at iHeart that doesn't have a credit card?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Mark Cuban with an extra This guy's got twenty IQ
points on him.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Otherwise, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
We are joined now by Knox County Mayor Glenn Jacobs,
superstar wrestler politician. Now we were just talking about off
the air. You got Hull Cogan speaking tonight, You got
a data White speaking leading into Trump speaking tonight. You
came out of the WWE universe. When did you first
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meet Trump? And did you ever think that both of
you would be in the political sphere.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Well, it's interesting, there's actually three ww Hall of Famers
at the RNC this year. Wow, Me, Hogan and Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's right. They put him in. Yeah, that's pretty big.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Yesterday I ran into Elyna McMahon as well, so there's
there's a very strong connection there. I met him it
was the WrestleMania that we had at Ford Field in Detroit.
There was probably like two thousand, two thousand and probably
five or something like that. It's it's a long time,
you know. He was there at the Battle of Billionaires
and won the match. Actually got to keep his hair man, Yeah,
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I got to keep his hair well.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
As we know, the hair is very yeah, so he
keeps he keeps that top of mind. We're excited about
the speech tonight. Just wondering from from your perspective, I mean,
as a one thing, as a Tennessee guy, we have
had a lot of Tennessee this hour. By the way,
I'm sitting here with mister Tennessee to my left. The
conservative model or the you know, red state model of
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governance clearly winning across the country. How are you seeing
that play out in your home state and how do
you think that factors into the Republican Party platform going
into this election.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Tennessee is the best run state in the country. We
are the most fiscally responsible state. We have virtually no debt.
We have one of the lowest tax state and local
burdens in the country, so we're very well run.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And it just is aos principles.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
One of the major things is allowing people to keep
their money because they know how to spend it better
than the government does. And it's just that idea of
lower government and keeping government out of our lives as
much as possible. And what we're seeing in Tennessee, and
Clay can attest to this as well, is we're seeing
a mass influx of political refugees coming from the blue
states because they're just tired of all the foolishness going
on in places like California.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
How is that doing for party registrations, I'm your sur
Are you getting red yes voters?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (13:47):
States?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (13:48):
And now we don't have we have open primaries, so
we don't have like registered Republicans and Democrats like a
lot of states do. But you see what happened in
Florida and how that whole thing flipped, going from a
slightly blue state to a more own it's.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Hundred and fifty thousand because I live there, off half
a million plus now.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah, and there was a poll that was done probably
a few years ago, but anyway, it was like sixty
percent of the people that have moved to Tennessee to
Middle Tennessee were Republicans. More importantly, they were super voters,
so they were actually more conservative than their neighbors. So
I think it's actually turning red Tennessee even redder.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
When you look at what we can expect from Trump tonight,
obviously coming off of the assassination attempt on Saturday. I'm
curious if you've had any time to interact with him,
because I want to give you a little bit of
a praise here. I talked to President Trump about Iowa
and he said that you were out in the freezing
cold later working harder than almost anybody out there that
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was a surrogate on his behalf, and he really appreciated that.
It seems to us we had him on the show Friday,
that just watching him, he seems more somber, reflective.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Yeah, he does, and that experience I'm sure will do
that to you. You know, I've talked to some people
that are close to him. I haven't had the opportunity
to talk to him, but some people around him and
the most impressive thing. And I don't see impress him
in a good way, but impressive. As far as his
own emotions about it, he's more concerned about in the
man that was killed, the firefighter that was killed, and
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the people that are injured than he was himself. That's
the first thing I actually asked was how's everybody else?
So I do think that you know, that had an
impact on him in a personal way, and you can
see it just you know, just the way he's carrying
himself out onto the are and the floor and those
sort of things. As far as the speech, you know,
I don't think this is going to be and he
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said this as well. He basically tore up what he
was going to say, and the speech is going to
be much more about all of us coming together. And
you know, it's funny because the Democrats pride themselves on
all that stuff, and literally within two days of their
horrible rhetoric of you know, calling Trumpet fascist and Hitler,
(16:05):
well two days later, uh, they're back to saying that JD.
Vance is a maggot street maggot extremist. So you know,
they're the ones that are driving the division.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What are you using JD.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Pick By the way, how does he how does he
line up with what you think is best for the party?
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Well, I think it's great. First of all, he's a
young guy, obviously very intelligent. He's also one of those
people that he's lived the American dream.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
He started out virtually nothing, very bad situation, uh, joined
the Marine Corps, became a lawyer, got in the US Senate,
now is Vice President the United States. So he is
a living testament about the opportunities that you have in
this country.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Would you have believed that Trump was going to be
president of the United States when you were doing WrestleMania
back in the day, or that you would feel compelled
to step into the political arena too.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
No and no, actually, but I think in both cases
it's because we saw things that needed the change and
are trying to do that.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
The rock Huge Superstar.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
He endorsed Joe Biden, and some people can say, okay,
celebrity endorsement.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I know that in twenty twenty, twenty twenty, okay, I
was like, I don't think any this.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Came out with our friend Will Caine and did a
sit down interview and said I'm not endorsing this time
let's go around, you know the world of sports and entertainment.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, do you sense as I do?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
And Buck and I have talked about this sum that
there isn't going to be anywhere near the same camp
kind of anti Trump push from the on the politics
front in the sports and entertainment arena like there was
in twenty I don't think.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
We also see it actually in big tech.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yeah you David David yesterday. Yeah, that that that have
essentially just left the Democrat Party and our big deal.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, those are like heavy artillery peaches that we're switching over.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Man.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
You know, one of the uh, one of the most
surprising things in my entire life was the president of
the team h endorsing Donald Trump at the Republican National Convention.
Whoever thought you'd see that? So, uh, it's amazing to
see what's happening now. And I think I think what's
occurred is a lot of folks that were kind of
in the middle and you know, maybe even didn't pay
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that much attention to politics and believed what the media
said about Donald Trump. Saturday shook them out of that
and they realized, no, that that's that's not true.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
You know, there are rumors, and you know, you're a
man who's been in the arena.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
With tens of thousands of people cheering for you before
the rumors tonight that perhaps mister fifty on the stage.
I'm just wondering, one, would that be exciting for you too?
Do you celebrate fifty cents?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Catalog? What could you tell us? Yeah? Sorry, guys, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Really but it would be quite a moment, Clay, if
this were to end up actually happening.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
This is a rumor mill out here.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Yeah, we know that we've got hul Cogan, and we
know that we've got what in the world is producer
Ali doing?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
By the way, is this on video? No idea.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
We know that we've got a whul Cogan, and we
know that we've got the Dana White connection. If we
added fifty cent to it as well, that would be
absolutely bonkers in terms of the entertainment aspect associated with this.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
I love you guys, but is this show one of
those where I actually have to watch my back.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I didn't know what she was doing and it looked
like a steel cage there For a minute, I thought, climb,
you know what you know?
Speaker 7 (19:30):
But to your point, Clay, I think one of the
things that's really happening is for a long time the
Democrats were considered the cool yes, and now it's switched
and now it's like Trump is the cool.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Handsome Yeah, that's the GOP now, everybody do it.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Great to see you, Glenn Jacobs keep ruling in a
really great way, running everything in East Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Thank you Sunday Drop.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
But I have to out are good friend Jesse Kelly,
who we had dinner with last night, is not working today,
is actually hanging out. He is by the pool. He's
working on his tan legitimately at the pool. Went to
dinner last night. His lovely wife Aubrey was there. You
know what, she's a big fan of buck Brussels sprouts.
Double Brussels sprouts ordered for the table. Devoured you had some, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Now, I was a witness to this, to the Brussels
sprouts fiasco the first time round, and of this time.
One of the Brussels sprout's dishes was good, but it
was deep fried and had bacon. The other one Clay.
To be fair, Jesse and Clay separately took photos of
the Brussels sprout dishes from dinner to prove their side
of the argument, because one of the Brussels sprout dishes
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was it looked like what you would feed Yeah, but
the other one looked like what you'd feed to a rabbit,
and not a rabbit you liked very much.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh man.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
We're gonna get into this and more eventually with Jesse
on the show. But I just want to point out
that he is on the wrong side of history when
it comes to Brussels sprouts.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Sundaysis with Clay and bus.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I just want you to listen to this, and we'll
have Joe Concer react to it because he's joining us
in progress here.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But here is Trump who is.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Saying, look, if you vote for me, I'll fix all
problems so you don't have to worry about voting again.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Play it.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
That statement is very free, simple. I said, vote for me,
You're not going to have to do it ever again.
It's true because we have to get the vote out.
Christians are not known as a big voting group. They'll vote,
and I'm explaining that to him.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You never vote this time.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
Vote I'll straighten out the country.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You won't have to vote anymore. I won't need you vote.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean, he's just being Trump Joe and he's saying
that he's going to fix all the problems. They want
to vote again. Media freaking out about this. We'll get
to your book progressively worse here in just a second.
But what do you think about that comment that they're
now New York Times main story today. It's probably changed
now with the IDF targeting, but the main story this
morning was.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Trump says, you'll there'll only be one more series of votes,
the end of democracy.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
I think they tried playing this card buck right. I mean, guys,
it's built into the Trump's stock. This is how he
speaks to try to fearmonger over Donald Trump nine years
and changed since he came down that escalator. I'm sorry,
it's not gonna work. What with the New York Time
should be concentrating on is Kamala Harris and her record
though that's truly the scary stuff, right because I've actually
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compiled Sweet sixteen if you want me to run through
it real quick, and I know you've been talking about it,
but I just can't believe that this is actually her record,
based on her own words on video not too long ago.
She wants to bat cracking. She's now backtracking from that
not going to happen. End fossil fuels. She wants to
the end of that, which is not a good idea
if you want to win Pennsylvania. She wants to end
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all all short drilling. She wants to abolish Arizona. Like
that very much. She wants to stop all border wall construction.
Trump wants to do the opposite. Hate remain in Mexico policy.
Doesn't want to entertain that. Wants to end private health insurance.
Yet she wants to give a government run healthcare to
illegals who are here for free, which sounds like a great,
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great policy to come down on. And then also, you
have one else is she co sponsored the Green New
Deal to the two NA trillions. She thinks that biological
men should compete in stylogical women. She's probably part of
that ball that thinks men can actually get pregnant. She
supports sanctuary cities. We saw what happened in New York
or Washington. I go as far as that whole plan
is concerned. She wants to pack the Supreme Court, and
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she wants to mandate EV sales, which in Michigan is
going to sound great so they could concentrate on Trump
as much as they want, where he made a very benign,
trumpy comment. But that is the story right there, those
policy positions that Kamala Harris can't run away from matter
how much he denies it, because again it's all on video.
It's only from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
We're talking to Joe Kancha.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I'm fascinated by as you just ran through the Kamala
Harris record. Do you think she's going to end up
doing better than Biden as we sit here basically three
months away from the official election day, or do you
think Biden and Kamala are effectively going to end up
with a similar number of voters. Do you buy basically
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this Kamala enthusiasm increase, or do you think when all
is said and done in about ninety days and change,
that the numbers in the outcome is going to be
very similar to if Biden had been on the ticket.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
Clay, I think it's going to be the same, or
maybe even worse, because at least Biden could blame dementia
and age for the things that he said, Like Buck
was mentioning earlier that the whole uncle being eaten by
Cannibal's thing, or he inherited nine percent inflation, or a
mess at the border. You can go down the list
as far as like you know, the bizarre, either lies
or just the fact the guy is just so far
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gone that nothing made sense. With Kamala Harris, she doesn't
have that excuse. She has something broken in her brain
where if you ask her anything outside of a teleprompter,
outside of scripted remarks, just like Biden, things go south
in a hurry and he cleanups on ales five, eighteen,
twenty four, and twenty nine when you say things like
she has in the past, like oh, we need to
reimagine the police, and then you juxtapose that with the
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fact that two hundred cops have been shot this year already.
Once the record is out there. This is a right
of center country center at best. And when you have
somebody who's to the left of Bernie Sanders, these ain't
your daddy's donkeys anymore. To try to portray her somehow
as the second coming in Barack Obama, Well, Barack Obama
did have a likable personality to a certain extent, and
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he could speak extemporaneously. She has no ability to do that.
So at least electorally. Guys, I just don't see how
she resonates with steel workers in Pennsylvania, or with auto
workers in Michigan, or with anybody in Arizona when you
say you want to abolish ice or go down the lift.
As far as all the things that she would do
where you wouldn't even recognize this country anymore. The media
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will prop her up for a while. They're on a
sugar high right now because this isn't abou Kamala Harris.
It's about we got rid of the old man, and
anybody else is better, and now maybe we have a chance.
But I think once that settles, we get after Labor Day,
we get her on a debate stage with Donald Trump.
I think he'll go the same way it did with
Joe Biden, except she won't have an excuse that she
has dementia.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It sounds to me like Joe kansha here of Fox
News is not officially a part of the white Dudes
for Harris campaign, which is a real thing. He missed
the call in. I guess they didn't send you the
zoom wing for that one, Joe. But it's okay, because
you know, if you don't want to know what can
be unburdened by what has been. That's on you, mister
consha The book is progressively worse. Why today's Democrats ain't
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your daddy's donkeys, Joe, Given given all that that you've seen,
you know you're like me and Clay. I mean, I
think I can speak for you in this regard. Semi
obsessed or fully obsessed with politics right watching it, thinking
about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Are you worried though that.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Despite everything we know about Kamala and I know that
she's not going to You mentioned that the demographic, for example,
that she won't resonate with, which is like steel workers
in Michigan or whatever, car you know, autoworkers, you name it,
but women. They think women might be able to deliver
this for Kamala. Is that is that something that concerns
you or do you think it's a misstep, kind of
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like the lawfair against Trump was a misstep.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
I think I'm thinking of twenty sixteen all over again.
And remember Hillary Clinton's campaign slogan, I'm with her, which
I don't know how that improves your life if you're
an American voter.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm with her?
Speaker 9 (27:15):
Okay, Now, what so I think if you just play
the gender card and the fact that Kamala Harris is
maybe even more unlikable and unauthentic than Hillary Clinton, that
that could be a problem overall. I mean this party
what they used to be. I mean John F. Kennedy
cut taxes during a recession, he beefed up the military.
Jimmy Carter was a pro life Democratic president. That is unthinkable.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Now.
Speaker 9 (27:37):
Bill Clinton was actually a very good president take away Monica.
He actually worked with new Gingridge to pass balanced budget
American amendments and get budget surpluses and declared that the
era of big government is over and ended the welfare state.
I can agree with all of those things, right. So
that's where the party was. And even Barack Obama was
labeled in a very sarcastic and mean way, the deporter
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in chief by the left because Jay Johnson, who as
the Department of a Land Security secretary, actually did his
job unlike my orcis. So I think in the end,
no matter who you install here, but whether it was
Kamala Harris, who it is, of course, but let's say
we even was Aggression Whim or anybody else, the Democratic
brand is the Democratic brand, and this is a radical
party at this point, and the party of elites. By
the way, the forty richest congressional districts in this country
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are represented by Democrats talking about turning this thing completely
on it's ear. Well, Donald Trump, the billionaire, is seen
as the populace who can relate to people in places
like the States we just mentioned. So yeah, I see
this still being Trump's race to lose. And I think again,
Kamala Harris, our only shot is the debates, and if
she doesn't have a teleprompter or anything scripted in front
of her, that's going to go south in a hurry.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Joe, when you look at the hearing that we had
today on the Secret Service, I'm sure you're like both
Buck and me and that we've been looking at this
so much and the complete failure just keeps getting.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Worse and worse.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
I said, it's either gross criminal negligence or it almost
feels in intentional in some way. How would you analyze
what we got today and what you've seen since It's crazy.
It's only been seventeen or eighteen days since Trump was
nearly killed on live television, and yet it feels like
many already want to move on I'm not one of
those people.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I want to know what happened.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
Wow, guys, I'm in the same boat as you. I
at first was thinking, no, this was just incompetence, and
then I was hoping it was incompetence because the alternative
is obviously much worse. This somehow was intentional. And I
cannot get past the fact that the Secret Service had
a ninety minute heads up that there could be a
threat in that area, that they didn't secure that building,
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and someone allowed Donald Trump to still go on that
stage instead of finding where that threat is and containing
it or killing it. And then this way, at least
you know the coast is clear. So whoever sent him
out there? I want to know why no one's been fired, Like,
how could no one be fired in this situation? So
this should be also New York Times your lead story.
It should have been for the past seventeen days, because
(29:58):
You're right, it seems like people just want to move
move on. Google and Facebook are literally suppressing and censoring
an iconic shot of Trump this stuff with blood on
his face with the American flag in the background, or
even calling the assassination attempts fictional. You still have Laurence O'Donnell,
an idiot on MSNBC, is still questioning whether Donald Trump
was actually shot. I mean this was he came with
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the millimeter have his head blown off on national television
and we're like, oh, well, I guess the guy missed.
Let's move on. But the balls on Trump to go
back to that very location to do another rally. I mean,
you want to talk about this campaign strength versus weakness,
Trump's going back there. Biden got COVID for and it
was gone off camera for seven days, and Kamala Harris
won't take one question, not even one on her record.
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So I think in the end, strength versus weakness, and
Trump's showing that by going back to that location. I
know I couldn't do that. That's your third.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Joe Konha, Fox News contributor. The book It is released today. Hey, congratulations,
Joe progressively worse. Why today's Democrats ain't your daddy's donkeys.
I have one quick one for you, Joe before we
let you go, and I'm not I'm not trying it
to get you any hate email.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
With this one.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
People feel very passionately, but we do have to because
our friend Jesse Kelly is uh on the hot seat
on this one as well?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Brussels sprouts.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
If you order Brussels sprouts for the table without asking
anybody else at a steakhouse, is that a smart move
or are you showing shades of communism?
Speaker 9 (31:27):
Communism you speak expelled from the table.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Yeah, I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Tell everybody to buy the book. Now I'm not sure
Joe could be trusted. Do it. Get my man Clay
Travis over here. Look at this.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Oh, we love it, Joe. We'll have you to the
next steak outing. Thanks for being with us, man, Good
to talk to you.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
Brussel Scouts on me. Thanks guys,