August 9, 2024 • 36 mins
Election data guru, Ryan Girdusky, joined Buck to talk about how the race looks now that the Democrats dumped Biden for Harris. Caller who lived through Tim Walz's BLM riots in Minneapolis. There's no rationale for Kamala's campaign, except she's not Trump – or Biden. More about Kamala running absurdly on mainly hope, joy and niceness like one might for eighth grade class president. Callers end the hour.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now our
friend Ryan Gurdusky joins. He is the author of the
National Populist news letter, which you can subscribe to on substack.
He's the founder of the seventeen seventy six Project PAC,
master of election data, and quite a very nice fellow,
(00:21):
mister Ryan Gerdusky.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
How are you good? To have you on?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Good?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Thanks for having me all right, So, I don't know
if you've been hearing this at all. And of course
you listen to Clay and Buck show every day, so
you must have been hearing it. But let's just sree
for a.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Second every day, all three hours.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
The sense that Clay has he is concerned, he is
worried about this election. I am not worried. I am
quietly confident. Should we be worried based on the numbers
you are seeing now?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And if so? Why?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I mean, look, it's it is. It's Republicans are doing
with the whiplash right now. Two and a half weeks ago,
Republicans had a real chance at winning New Jersey, and
now they're in competition in Georgia again. So we are
in a position that we are not as comfortable as
we certainly were under Biden right before he dropped out. However,
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Donald Trump is still polling better than he ever did
at any time he's ever run for office, aside from
the last month with Joe Biden. He's certainly pulling better
than he did in twenty twenty, certainly better than he
did in twenty sixteen. I'll break it down by the
few polls that have come out in the last couple
of weeks. This is according to a voter hub Harris
right now has on the last three polls. In Pennsylvania,
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Harris has a point six percent lead to a point
one percent lead, depending on how many poles you count Michigan.
In Michigan, Harris's lead is point two seven, In Wisconsin,
its point is one point two, and in Nevada it's
point eight. In North Carolina, Trump leads by two. Georgia,
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Trump leads by point six. In Arizona, Trump leads by
one point two. Now, with the exception of just Georgia,
all of these numbers are still better than where he
was in twenty twenty and in twenty sixteen in all
of these states. And I will say that a lot
of what we're seeing as far as Harris searge go.
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Is not a lot of people dropping from the Trump
train and going over to Harris. It's people. It's disenfranchised
and disenfranchised Democrats, especially a lot of minorities and young
people who did not like Joe Biden but are comfortab
voting for Kamala Harris. That is the Kamala Harris search.
There is a ceiling to that surge. It's not a
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never ending growth that has no limitation to it, and
it is a bit of a sugar high. I have
never seen in my life someone searged ten points with
favorability and managed to keep it. I mean she searched
ten points overnight and managed to keep it for very long.
She hasn't opened her mouth up. Her running mate is
a lunatic, an absolute far left French nut bag. So
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there is definitely going to be some recourse over time.
It's just is there enough time to get where there
needs to be? That's the big question.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
How is it looking right now in Well, actually there's
two parts of this. One is how's it looking right
now in Pennsylvania for Trump?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And the second part.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Is is Pennsylvania basically do or die for both candidates?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I don't see a way that Harris can win without Pa.
There is a path to Trump if he loses PA.
You win Wisconsin, when Arizona win Georgia and North Carolina
and win, Harris cannot win without Pennsylvania. There's no path
for her without Pennsylvania. And I will remind people. I mean,
Pennsylvania has the more accurate polling as far as midst
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as far as Rust belt states go. It's certainly easier
to pull because they do register voters by part not
by self identification in the polls onlike Michigan and Wisconsin,
where you just register to vote and you're a registered
voter and you decide if you're a Republican or Democrat
when you go vote in primaries. NPA, you have to
vote with a party, and you have to stick to
the party, and you can only vote in the party's primaries.
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So it's a little easier to find where voters are
in Pennsylvania. It's listen to. Pennsylvania is extremely, extremely, extremely important.
There's no other way to say it. There are certain
factors working against Trump. Mainly one the areas of the
Coller counties in Philadelphia have definitely grown in population. They're
more liberal than they used to be, and the rural
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counties have been emptying out over the last several decades,
including the four years since Trump last ran in eight
years since he won the state. But Republican registration is
up in a lot of the cities where Trump's immense
games from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, cities like Redding, Lancaster,
Proper City, even Philadelphia because a surge of a Hispanic
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an Asian population. That population has continued to grow and
Trump's support within that population has continued to grow. You'll
see precincts if you look at precinct changes from twenty
sixteen to twenty twenty, where there were precincts that Trump
got three percent five percent the first time in twenty sixteen,
where he got twenty two to twenty three twenty four
percent the second time. That will help offset some of
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the suburban trends away from Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
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Speaker 3 (05:33):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now, let's look at the demographics that could determine this election,
and let's start with one that I know you've done
a lot of number crunching on white working class voters,
white male working class voters in the russ belt. Are
they likely to be definitive? Are they likely to just
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be a big piece of of a larger pie? I mean,
what do you make of their role in this?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So let's say winning a winning a probably making a
Republican a president. Winning a Republican presidential candidacy is like
making a cake. If that, If that was the analogy
I'm using, White working classmen are the batter. You cannot
make a cake without the batter. It is impossible. And
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it's not a question of are they going to support Trump?
They overwhelmingly are. Maybe a third might vote for Kamala,
but maybe even less than that, maybe even a quarter.
It's a matter of turnout. Whites without a college degree
have the worst to have the history of the worst
voter turnout of any group among among blacks, college educated whites,
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and non college go whites.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They turn to the least.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Only his recent immigrants like Hispanics turnout less than they do.
That is the most important game is if they can
sit there and make an actually show up and show
up in big numbers. If they can, then the election
is definitely going to go to one way, which will
go to Trump, and there are more of them. I mean,
this is what there's a wild fascination and this dream,
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this fever dream among a lot of Republican donors that
they're going to win twenty five percent of the black vote,
thirty percent of the black votes, and something like that.
For every one percent of the black vote that they
hope to gain, it would be the equivalent of if
they gain one percent more with a white vote, it
would be like gaining five points with the black vote.
And they are much more important in the more important
states Michigan, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, a lot of retirees,
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all those posis are in North Carolina. Winning those voters
and winning the low hanging fruit is much easier and
it's much more important. It's but it's a persuasion thing.
It's a turnout game, and I think that's really where
the election is won or loss, and it's primarily when
I lost in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You might have seen Ryan, there's some there's some back
and forth chatter on x now over whether the Trump
in the key states and specifically to do the turnout
operations that you were just talking about for non college
educated white voters is strong enough? Do you have a
(08:12):
view on that, do you have some insight into how
Trump seems to be doing? And then just also what
is a really strong ground game for those voters look like?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Well, I think that what I would like to see more.
I don't know if I don't know how. I've heard
that good things about the turnout, about the ground game,
but I don't know enough. So I'm not going to
sit there and delve into what it is. But what
I would like to see more is more coalitions building,
So a coalition that and we can talk about racial
coalitions the way that Harris does, or we can talk
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without economic coalitions. There is a substantial amount of people
in this country, for example, who live in motor homes,
who live in motor home communities. Especially ironically, they live
primarily in swing states. I think it's almost twenty million
live primarily in swings. It's Arizona, Georgia, Florida used to
be swing state, but Florida, Nevada, and Pennsylvania. One of
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their big issues is they don't own the land that
they have their mobile home on and a lot of
times corporations and big hedge funds by the land and
out umprice them out and they become homeless. It's a
big conversation happening within microcosms of this country. Targeting people
like that, Targeting people within certain unions with the Trump
campaign has done very successfully as well as going after
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not only simply just minorities or white people whatever, but
targeting within white voters, certain ethnic coalitions. Talking about Christopher
Columbus statues is extremely important with Italian Americans, There's certain
things with Eastern European Americans who make up huge percentages
of Pennsylvania. And talking about those kinds of conversations specifically
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with white voters, I think is very very important. There's
also conversations that we had generationally. I think JD. Evans
being a millennial is very important. People who are millennials.
We went through a different upbringing than other generations. We
had a very hard time. We had the Iraq War,
we had the two thousand and eight recession, we had
the dot com bubble. There was a lot of things
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in when we were going into both high schools and
college and post college careers that held a lot of
millennials back from owning a home, from starting their life
earlier on, and a lot of student debt. Those kinds
of conversations. He is unique to have because he had
that experience. Waltz didn't, Harris didn't. Even Trump didn't because
they're just at a certain age. I think Jdvance could
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speak to those voters and speak those voters, especially in
the Midwest and in the Sun Belts.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You touched on this, Ryan, but I wanted to just
have you get into a little bit more. I mean,
I like the way you said it that Walls is
a lunatic. Is it clear in your mind already based
on the reaction to Walls as the pick, as well
as how the numbers have moved, that this was a
mistake that is just common and making bad decision. Or
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do you feel like they can still turn this into
Walls appealing to those white working class voters in the
swing states to maybe peel some off from Trump. Not
that many, but enough that it could be the difference
in Wisconsin or Michigan.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Well, it might be the difference. But since Walls became governor,
fifty thousand people in Minnesota moved to Wisconsin. So a
lot of people know who Walls is and decided to leave.
I think that should be exacerbated and delved into as
to who are these people and why do they leave?
If they left because they hate Walls, make sure they're
going to go vote in Wisconsin. And that says of
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twenty twenty two, I'm sure in twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four that number is actually even higher. That's
one thing, but also Walls's essential problem is he chases
the most fringe, lunatic elements of the Internet, and that's
where he finds his base. Defunding Ice, he marched in
their things, tampons in boys bathrooms, his wife's saying that
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she likes the smell of burn cities. These are the
pole BLM. Everything BLM was completely lunatic, fringe ideas, and
he embraced every single one of them. He chased the
Internet crowd wherever they went. He hosted someone who made
a mom who did pro Hitler movies, and celebrated the
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October seventh massacres at the governor's mansion in Minnesota. He
is the most fringe person on the outside. He looks
like he could be every Midwesterner's Dad. But on the inside,
you know, if he was on MSNBC, Rachel Matta would
tell him to calm down. That's how crazy this man
actually is. And I think that that needs to be
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exposed is don't buy the pack. Don't buy the wrapping
on the package. What's inside the package is actually horrendous
for you, and you wouldn't want it if you were
given as a gift.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Do you do you buy?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
The New York Times reporting that it really did just
come down the VP pick came down to who Kama
liked and it was heard, they let it be heard
decision or was it really just mostly anti semitism? You
can't have Shapiro, even though he'd probably help you win Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I probably would guess the first part that it was
really who Harris liked. I think that she probably really
want I mean, Harris's dreamed of this moment for a
very very long time, and she probably wanted somebody would
always play second Bill to her. Josh Shapiro probably wouldn't.
I don't know why they didn't pick Mark Kelly. Maybe
just didn't go well. But Shapiro is very very ambitious.
He wants to be present. He's tried to make himself
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in the image of a Jewish Obama, and I think
that it would have been a lot of competition and
it would have been a lot of anger if Democrats
were truly serious though about her chances. If there were
a lot of Democrats, you would have saw Gretchen Whitmer
and Newsom and Pritzker really throw their hat in the ring.
I think a lot of Democrats are pessimistic. But if
she can win, because if she does win, right, no
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matter if she wins a second term or enough Democrats
are out, a lot of these leading Democrats for the
future are out of the running until twenty thirty two,
a lot of them will have retire. Their whole chance
of being president will be over. So I think internally,
a lot of and in the back of their minds,
someone who's like Retchen Wimer obviously been trying to groom
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herself with a job, trying to make us of a
national figure, trying to build a fundraising base, is probably
thinking to herself, Yeah, I could see Kamala losing, but
that's okay because I could still run. If Kamala wins,
She's never running for president. Neither his new son neither
is Pritsker, neither is Shapiro. They'll all be term limited
out and be out of office by that point.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
If forced to put your last dollar on a Trump
victory or a Kamala victory, Ryan, don't worry. We'll only
play this back after the election. If you're right, who
wins election.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
We've done this so many times now. Yeah, I think
right now Trump's still gonna win. I still think that
he has comes back. I still think, yeah, I still
think he's gonna win. Because this is my reasoning, my
rationale for it. One, I do think that there's an
internal bias among voters for female candidates for president. That's
politically correct, but I do believe that's true. Secondly, Harris,
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I mean, she went from being the character on VEEP
to being like this cool woman who just is It's
very bizarre. I don't believe that the hype is true
from the internet. And then lastly, Trump has always, always,
always overperformed poles in the russ Belts. I think he
will do it again. I fundamentally do. Back in twenty twenty,
he was down six points in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
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Right now he is down between point one to two
point seven in those three states. I do think he
can overperform in the end. And like I said before,
the support he hasn't been losing support, it's just disenfranchised
Democrats have been building towards Harris. But I think that
support is there for him too. He just needs to
really really double down on the white working class of
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the Midwest and speak to those voters.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I've been saying the same thing. I totally agree. I've
been looking at those numbers. It all makes sense to me.
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Ryan, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (17:35):
Back in to Clay and Buck. I have a quick
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Speaker 1 (17:38):
We have some fantastic calls, including about the riots in
Minnesota when Wallas was the governor.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So we want to get to that.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Here in just a moment, and also talk about some
of what Ryan said on those polls.
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Speaker 1 (17:53):
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Speaker 2 (19:05):
We've got Dan in Texas.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Now, Dan, I understand from our producers that you used
to live a couple of blocks from the Minnesota BLM riots,
and so you were there when that whole thing went down.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Tell us what happened was okay?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Well, uh, you know, obviously you know about the Floyd
George Floyd about eight blocks from where I lived. I
grew up in Minnesota, but I moved to Houston in
nineteen eighty three. I had to go back to be
with my dad for four years. And uh, you know,
you didn't we didn't expect this to happen. But when
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we found out, you know, all the things that had happened,
we realized that they were putting bricks, pallettes of bricks
on corners. You know what was that about, and so
we I was two blocks away in a mid rise,
stood on the roof and watched the whole thing burn up,
including the I got pictures of the police station, you know,
(20:05):
right framing up, and you know, smoke everywhere, and you know,
they just kept was wondering.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
What were you ever concerned? Like, what would you have
done if they had come to your building?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I was scared as heck, Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I mean I would have been too, That's why I
was asking. Yeah, it's a very scary situation.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, I was two blocks from Hennepen and Lake. That's
the that's the spot. But they burned all the way
down east of that and took out the post office,
the Wells, Fargo Bank, the cub Foods, the gas station,
and then all these older buildings that lined Lake Street
all the way down to the bridge that goes over
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to Saint Paul.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But and had Minneapolis been been deteriorating for a long time.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean I haven't spent much time in that city.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
They've been there once, but I've heard from a lot
of people that that they saw it go from being
a very safe place to a city with a real
crime and disorder problem.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well he started. They started getting rid of the police,
you know, and defunding, and there's a you know, they
have a law there that says there has to be
so many police as a percentage to the population.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
They didn't care.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
They just wanted to depopulate the police, you know. And
we had Jacob fry As as the mayor, right, he's
trying to make himself out to be, you know, a hero,
and he demanded, you know, troops, and he didn't. He
just let it burn. Walls wouldn't provide any any troops.
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We would we would stand on the top of the
building and we couldn't understand what was going on. But
we had these apps that followed airlines. I don't know
if you remember that, but there you could spot an
airline and you knew where they were going, and you
know from the app. But there was so much air
traffic that you look on the app and there was nothing.
So the government was flying over and we figured out
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it was the FBI that was watching the whole thing
from the air in small aircraft. You know, what else
do I say?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's just like, wait, Dan, one more thing before before that.
You go appreciate the call very much. Did you move
to Texas because of what happened to Minneapolis in your hometown.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yes, yes they did.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
I moved a lot of people in October yep.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, well good for you, man. I love Texas, Texas.
For me, it was Texas or Florida, So.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Good for you.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Problems here, Yeah, I mean, you know, I left New
York City, which is a city that I still love,
but it just had been run so poorly. But thank you,
thank you Dan for calling in. Yeah, I mean this
is what this is what you hear people leaving, people
leaving from from Minneapolis and from Minnesota. Ryan Gardusky, when
we talked to him just just a moment ago, said,
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you've had fifty thousand people leave Minnesota for Wisconsin. And yeah,
these are states that don't have large populations. These are
medium population states. And so fifty thousand people's a lot
of people who are.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Just moving next door.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You've had much larger numbers doing something similar with Californians
moving to Nevada for just a higher quality of life,
no state income tax, you can own guns more easily
than you can in California, stuff like that. So there's
a whole range of that. Gotta throw the guns in there.
There's a whole range of reasons.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Why. Let's see, we have.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Bryce just speaking about California, your former senator Bryce wants
to be president.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Yeah, I guess the other day at a rally, I
heard Kamala say on day one as president, she will
get rid of inflation. Okay, she's in the White House
right now. Apparently they've neutralized Joe Biden. Nobody knows where
he is. He's probably in Delaware. Why didn't she do it? Now?
The American people would need release now in this far.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, well, I gotta tell you you're actually thank you Bryce.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
You're touching on something that that I'm hoping gets more
and more attention, which is what exactly is a is
a Kamala presidency supposed to do. I mean, I hear
all this stuff, and again I'm the one who is
now an avid watcher of Morning Joe, like I'm seeing
what the Democrat propaganda is. I'm a subscriber to The
(24:25):
New York Times, the Washington Post. I can't believe when
I say these things out loud, but I read those
papers along with everything else that I read, so I
know what they're trying to present. As the narrative, no
one has any idea of really what a Kamala Harris
presidency would do, what the policies would be, other than
a continuation of the far left agenda broadly speaking, but
(24:47):
there's no singular or even group of ideas, policy ideas.
You know, you could say, well, what were the Trump
policy ideas of twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Fixed trade with China, redo trade deals, fix the border,
start building a wall. I mean, there are these things,
and you can argue about how well he did one
or the other, but there were ideas. The ideas of
the Kamala Harris president or your candidacy and would be
presidency so far.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Are joy, hope and niceness or something. I mean, it's absurd.
It's like, it's honestly that the way they.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Talk about the Kamala Harris campaign, it's like she's running
for eighth grade president of a you know, nice little
Catholic school somewhere, you know, class president. It's like, oh,
like she's going to bring joy and hope and niceness
and good manners. And by the way, she's not nice,
so you know, wait, all of her staff. This is
well established from Democrat outlets and Democrat reporting, not a
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nice person, treat your staff horribly, blames her staff for
her own shortcomings. You know, one thing that you find
so much with people who have worked with Trump for
a long time, not only do they like him, there's
a there's a real loyalty to him, even.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
In the face of you know, investigations and going to prison.
People around Trump like him.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
People around Kamala Harris, and I mean around as in
dealing with day to day away from the cameras. People
learn Kamala Harris think that she's a nightmare. And I
don't say this from opposition reporting. This was from you know,
Politico and Axios and the Washington Post. I mean, this
is the the gold standards of left wing journalism in
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America saying this about Kamala Harris. So I think we
have to accept it as true. Right when they when
they bash their own team, it's even more likely to
be the case than when the opposition is bashing them,
because it's so clear that nobody can say otherwise, right,
nobody could come up with a counter narrative.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
It's going to come out one way or the other. So,
but it is.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Amazing when you think about it if I even asked
a Kamala Harris supporter right now, what, Oh, she would
stand for women and a woman's right to choose, and
you know the middle class and like pay your fair share,
and it's all just you know, pie in the sky,
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ephemeral hot air.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's just nonsense. It's just the nonsense campaign. Honestly, what
is the one thing that Kamala Harris is saying? She's
she's gonna fix inflation.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
As our callers points out, first of all, no one's
fixing inflation on day one. The only way to fix
inflation really is to stop out of control government spending.
Nobody thinks Kamala Harris is going to stop out of
control government spending or even try.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
To deal with it.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
She's going to spend even more more socialism, more redistribution
of wealth.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Obviously. So what is the Kamala Harris presidency.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Oh, you get to say you voted for the first
black female president. That's the I think the primary value
proposition to the voter who isn't just a Democrat who
will vote for any Democrat, which unfortunately is pretty much
all Democrats. So for independent voters, it's you get to
vote for the first black female president.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
That's really it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And she's not Donald Trump. That is true, I will concede.
Kamala Harris is not Donald Trump. I think we can
all agree on that. Beyond that, what is the big
policy with the big promise? Biden's promise was clear. It
was a lie and no one should have believed it,
but it was clear it was a return to normalcy
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and bringing the country together, right, a return to normalcy
and being a uniter. He did the exact opposite. He
made this country even crazier. He went with that absolutely
insane vaccine mandate, which I will never forgive or forget.
But he did have a promise, right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
What does the guy say in the Big Lebowski, He's like,
say what you will about nihilism.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
At least it's an ethos, you know, I think the dude, no,
Walter says that. Walter says that, not the dude. One
of the better roles that that guy has done in
a long time.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That was a very good role.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But say what you will about the Biden campaign, at
least there was a promise. It was a lie, but
at least they promise something. Kamala Harris, I'm telling you
they go around promising joy and hope and happy feelings
and unicorns flying through the sky and you know, rivers
of candy. And I mean, it is an absurdity, an absurdity.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But what else are they going to say? They got nothing?
She says, Oh, you know, we're gonna fix the border.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
What does that even mean to Kamala Harris? Fix the border?
How make it even easier for illegals to come into
the country, Because that's the real answer. Again, stay calm,
stay cool, stay focused. Trump is going to win this thing.
Trump is going to win this thing.
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lot of calls and thank you so much for that.
I know that it's like I put out the bat signal.
You can hear my voice breaking, So you're helping me
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Speaker 2 (32:03):
Thank you. Ali in South Dakota, you left Minnesota. What's
going on? Ali?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I did?
Speaker 7 (32:09):
I heard Christino on the other day say seven thousand
families have left Minnesota for South Dakota, and I'm so
happy to be amongst them. During COVID in Minnesota, my
family was in complete disarray. I had three special education daughters,
who weren't going to school trying to learn on an iPad.
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I worked in the media and had to go to
work every day. Well, my husband, who worked an actual
job from working from home, had to try to teach
these kids on an iPad every day. It was tears,
fighting and screaming. It was horrific what Tim Walls did
to our students, which is also funny. I mean, the
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guy is a teacher and says he is four students
and that was certainly not our case. And on top
of it, he closed down our churches. We didn't have
a choice to go and worship our God, and he
was a complete tyrant. And so we are just blessed
beyond measure that we had the means that we could
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get out of there. And we live in Two Falls,
South Dakota. We drove three and a half hours away
to a completely different life. The day we closed it
in our house, our kids started full every day in school,
no masks. It was like COVID didn't even exist here
in Two Falls. And we are so so happy with
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what we did.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Thank you so much for calling in and sharing that.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And yeah, Minnesota, another place, another place that's beautiful, has
so much going forward, and then liberals come in and
ruin it, and people a lot of people leave, not
ruined it entirely. I know the lakes are still nice
and there's still a lot of great people there. But
you know what I'm saying, the same thing I feel
about New York. I love New York, but the imbeciles
in charge have pushed a lot of us out. And
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you know when I walk, When I walk across my
home in Florida and my flip flops and on my
way to pick up my AR fifteen am my suppressor,
and then not have to pay any state income tax.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You get what I'm saying, It's pretty nice. I like
the whole Florida. Things pretty going, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Let's see Larry in New York. You have some thoughts, Laraiy,
what's up?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Thanks for taking my call. It's a pleasure to speak
with you. As a longtime listener of Russia's his positive attitude.
I learned from him that I think right now, with
all these polls coming out saying that she's back in
the race and she could win and all this other stuff,
maybe she will, but I think right now what Rush
would be telling us if he was here is don't
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believe all this hype. Just like back in twenty sixteen
when they said that Hillary had a seventeen point lead
in Wisconsin, she didn't. Russia's positive approach would be just
telling us now, don't believe everything that they're filling our
ears with because we still believe that Trump.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Is going to win this thing. Larry, I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And I'll tell you you know, as a long time
listener to Rush myself, sometimes I try to think about
if Rush were in the room as I was doing
the show.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And we could talk in a break, what would he say,
What would he think about it? What do you be
with me on this one?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I mean, you've listened to somebody long enough, the truth
is you actually have a much better sense of their mind,
just as you do about where Rush would come down
on this.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I do think that Rush was in many ways the.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Ultimate happy warrior of politics and positive and came out
of a sense of optimism and love for this incredible
country and the fact that you have to have the
right mindset in order to keep it, in order to
fight for it, in order to preserve it. You know,
if you get too down, you get too depressed, you
get too anxious. You're not as capable of being the
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steward of this project in liberty as you otherwise would be.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And so I agree with our caller. I think that.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Whether he's talking about Russia's perspective on this, I think
that we just have to, as I keep saying, stay focused,
stay frosty, stay.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Dialed in.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Trump is going to pull this one off because he
knows the stakes and he knows what the future holds
if he's in charge versus Kamala Harris, and he doesn't
have to do this.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
He could go just play golf at his you.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Know, five hundred million dollars billion dollar Mar A Lago resort.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
For the rest of his days and spend time with
his grandkids.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
He is in this fight to win this fight, and
I think he deserves our full faith at this at
this moment, and of course our full and ongoing support,
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now our
friend Ryan Gurdusky joins. He is the author of the
National Populist news letter, which you can subscribe to on substack.
He's the founder of the seventeen seventy six Project PAC,
master of election data, and quite a very nice fellow,
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mister Ryan Gerdusky.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
How are you good? To have you on?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Good?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Thanks for having me all right, So, I don't know
if you've been hearing this at all. And of course
you listen to Clay and Buck show every day, so
you must have been hearing it. But let's just sree
for a.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Second every day, all three hours.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
The sense that Clay has he is concerned, he is
worried about this election. I am not worried. I am
quietly confident. Should we be worried based on the numbers
you are seeing now?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And if so? Why?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I mean, look, it's it is. It's Republicans are doing
with the whiplash right now. Two and a half weeks ago,
Republicans had a real chance at winning New Jersey, and
now they're in competition in Georgia again. So we are
in a position that we are not as comfortable as
we certainly were under Biden right before he dropped out. However,
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Donald Trump is still polling better than he ever did
at any time he's ever run for office, aside from
the last month with Joe Biden. He's certainly pulling better
than he did in twenty twenty, certainly better than he
did in twenty sixteen. I'll break it down by the
few polls that have come out in the last couple
of weeks. This is according to a voter hub Harris
right now has on the last three polls. In Pennsylvania,
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Harris has a point six percent lead to a point
one percent lead, depending on how many poles you count Michigan.
In Michigan, Harris's lead is point two seven, In Wisconsin,
its point is one point two, and in Nevada it's
point eight. In North Carolina, Trump leads by two. Georgia,
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Trump leads by point six. In Arizona, Trump leads by
one point two. Now, with the exception of just Georgia,
all of these numbers are still better than where he
was in twenty twenty and in twenty sixteen in all
of these states. And I will say that a lot
of what we're seeing as far as Harris searge go.
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Is not a lot of people dropping from the Trump
train and going over to Harris. It's people. It's disenfranchised
and disenfranchised Democrats, especially a lot of minorities and young
people who did not like Joe Biden but are comfortab
voting for Kamala Harris. That is the Kamala Harris search.
There is a ceiling to that surge. It's not a
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never ending growth that has no limitation to it, and
it is a bit of a sugar high. I have
never seen in my life someone searged ten points with
favorability and managed to keep it. I mean she searched
ten points overnight and managed to keep it for very long.
She hasn't opened her mouth up. Her running mate is
a lunatic, an absolute far left French nut bag. So
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there is definitely going to be some recourse over time.
It's just is there enough time to get where there
needs to be? That's the big question.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
How is it looking right now in Well, actually there's
two parts of this. One is how's it looking right
now in Pennsylvania for Trump?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And the second part.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Is is Pennsylvania basically do or die for both candidates?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I don't see a way that Harris can win without Pa.
There is a path to Trump if he loses PA.
You win Wisconsin, when Arizona win Georgia and North Carolina
and win, Harris cannot win without Pennsylvania. There's no path
for her without Pennsylvania. And I will remind people. I mean,
Pennsylvania has the more accurate polling as far as midst
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as far as Rust belt states go. It's certainly easier
to pull because they do register voters by part not
by self identification in the polls onlike Michigan and Wisconsin,
where you just register to vote and you're a registered
voter and you decide if you're a Republican or Democrat
when you go vote in primaries. NPA, you have to
vote with a party, and you have to stick to
the party, and you can only vote in the party's primaries.
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So it's a little easier to find where voters are
in Pennsylvania. It's listen to. Pennsylvania is extremely, extremely, extremely important.
There's no other way to say it. There are certain
factors working against Trump. Mainly one the areas of the
Coller counties in Philadelphia have definitely grown in population. They're
more liberal than they used to be, and the rural
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counties have been emptying out over the last several decades,
including the four years since Trump last ran in eight
years since he won the state. But Republican registration is
up in a lot of the cities where Trump's immense
games from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, cities like Redding, Lancaster,
Proper City, even Philadelphia because a surge of a Hispanic
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an Asian population. That population has continued to grow and
Trump's support within that population has continued to grow. You'll
see precincts if you look at precinct changes from twenty
sixteen to twenty twenty, where there were precincts that Trump
got three percent five percent the first time in twenty sixteen,
where he got twenty two to twenty three twenty four
percent the second time. That will help offset some of
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the suburban trends away from Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
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Speaker 3 (05:33):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now, let's look at the demographics that could determine this election,
and let's start with one that I know you've done
a lot of number crunching on white working class voters,
white male working class voters in the russ belt. Are
they likely to be definitive? Are they likely to just
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be a big piece of of a larger pie? I mean,
what do you make of their role in this?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So let's say winning a winning a probably making a
Republican a president. Winning a Republican presidential candidacy is like
making a cake. If that, If that was the analogy
I'm using, White working classmen are the batter. You cannot
make a cake without the batter. It is impossible. And
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it's not a question of are they going to support Trump?
They overwhelmingly are. Maybe a third might vote for Kamala,
but maybe even less than that, maybe even a quarter.
It's a matter of turnout. Whites without a college degree
have the worst to have the history of the worst
voter turnout of any group among among blacks, college educated whites,
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and non college go whites.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They turn to the least.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Only his recent immigrants like Hispanics turnout less than they do.
That is the most important game is if they can
sit there and make an actually show up and show
up in big numbers. If they can, then the election
is definitely going to go to one way, which will
go to Trump, and there are more of them. I mean,
this is what there's a wild fascination and this dream,
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this fever dream among a lot of Republican donors that
they're going to win twenty five percent of the black vote,
thirty percent of the black votes, and something like that.
For every one percent of the black vote that they
hope to gain, it would be the equivalent of if
they gain one percent more with a white vote, it
would be like gaining five points with the black vote.
And they are much more important in the more important
states Michigan, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, a lot of retirees,
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all those posis are in North Carolina. Winning those voters
and winning the low hanging fruit is much easier and
it's much more important. It's but it's a persuasion thing.
It's a turnout game, and I think that's really where
the election is won or loss, and it's primarily when
I lost in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You might have seen Ryan, there's some there's some back
and forth chatter on x now over whether the Trump
in the key states and specifically to do the turnout
operations that you were just talking about for non college
educated white voters is strong enough? Do you have a
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view on that, do you have some insight into how
Trump seems to be doing? And then just also what
is a really strong ground game for those voters look like?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Well, I think that what I would like to see more.
I don't know if I don't know how. I've heard
that good things about the turnout, about the ground game,
but I don't know enough. So I'm not going to
sit there and delve into what it is. But what
I would like to see more is more coalitions building,
So a coalition that and we can talk about racial
coalitions the way that Harris does, or we can talk
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without economic coalitions. There is a substantial amount of people
in this country, for example, who live in motor homes,
who live in motor home communities. Especially ironically, they live
primarily in swing states. I think it's almost twenty million
live primarily in swings. It's Arizona, Georgia, Florida used to
be swing state, but Florida, Nevada, and Pennsylvania. One of
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their big issues is they don't own the land that
they have their mobile home on and a lot of
times corporations and big hedge funds by the land and
out umprice them out and they become homeless. It's a
big conversation happening within microcosms of this country. Targeting people
like that, Targeting people within certain unions with the Trump
campaign has done very successfully as well as going after
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not only simply just minorities or white people whatever, but
targeting within white voters, certain ethnic coalitions. Talking about Christopher
Columbus statues is extremely important with Italian Americans, There's certain
things with Eastern European Americans who make up huge percentages
of Pennsylvania. And talking about those kinds of conversations specifically
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with white voters, I think is very very important. There's
also conversations that we had generationally. I think JD. Evans
being a millennial is very important. People who are millennials.
We went through a different upbringing than other generations. We
had a very hard time. We had the Iraq War,
we had the two thousand and eight recession, we had
the dot com bubble. There was a lot of things
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in when we were going into both high schools and
college and post college careers that held a lot of
millennials back from owning a home, from starting their life
earlier on, and a lot of student debt. Those kinds
of conversations. He is unique to have because he had
that experience. Waltz didn't, Harris didn't. Even Trump didn't because
they're just at a certain age. I think Jdvance could
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speak to those voters and speak those voters, especially in
the Midwest and in the Sun Belts.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You touched on this, Ryan, but I wanted to just
have you get into a little bit more. I mean,
I like the way you said it that Walls is
a lunatic. Is it clear in your mind already based
on the reaction to Walls as the pick, as well
as how the numbers have moved, that this was a
mistake that is just common and making bad decision. Or
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do you feel like they can still turn this into
Walls appealing to those white working class voters in the
swing states to maybe peel some off from Trump. Not
that many, but enough that it could be the difference
in Wisconsin or Michigan.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Well, it might be the difference. But since Walls became governor,
fifty thousand people in Minnesota moved to Wisconsin. So a
lot of people know who Walls is and decided to leave.
I think that should be exacerbated and delved into as
to who are these people and why do they leave?
If they left because they hate Walls, make sure they're
going to go vote in Wisconsin. And that says of
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twenty twenty two, I'm sure in twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four that number is actually even higher. That's
one thing, but also Walls's essential problem is he chases
the most fringe, lunatic elements of the Internet, and that's
where he finds his base. Defunding Ice, he marched in
their things, tampons in boys bathrooms, his wife's saying that
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she likes the smell of burn cities. These are the
pole BLM. Everything BLM was completely lunatic, fringe ideas, and
he embraced every single one of them. He chased the
Internet crowd wherever they went. He hosted someone who made
a mom who did pro Hitler movies, and celebrated the
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October seventh massacres at the governor's mansion in Minnesota. He
is the most fringe person on the outside. He looks
like he could be every Midwesterner's Dad. But on the inside,
you know, if he was on MSNBC, Rachel Matta would
tell him to calm down. That's how crazy this man
actually is. And I think that that needs to be
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exposed is don't buy the pack. Don't buy the wrapping
on the package. What's inside the package is actually horrendous
for you, and you wouldn't want it if you were
given as a gift.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Do you do you buy?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
The New York Times reporting that it really did just
come down the VP pick came down to who Kama
liked and it was heard, they let it be heard
decision or was it really just mostly anti semitism? You
can't have Shapiro, even though he'd probably help you win Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I probably would guess the first part that it was
really who Harris liked. I think that she probably really
want I mean, Harris's dreamed of this moment for a
very very long time, and she probably wanted somebody would
always play second Bill to her. Josh Shapiro probably wouldn't.
I don't know why they didn't pick Mark Kelly. Maybe
just didn't go well. But Shapiro is very very ambitious.
He wants to be present. He's tried to make himself
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in the image of a Jewish Obama, and I think
that it would have been a lot of competition and
it would have been a lot of anger if Democrats
were truly serious though about her chances. If there were
a lot of Democrats, you would have saw Gretchen Whitmer
and Newsom and Pritzker really throw their hat in the ring.
I think a lot of Democrats are pessimistic. But if
she can win, because if she does win, right, no
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matter if she wins a second term or enough Democrats
are out, a lot of these leading Democrats for the
future are out of the running until twenty thirty two,
a lot of them will have retire. Their whole chance
of being president will be over. So I think internally,
a lot of and in the back of their minds,
someone who's like Retchen Wimer obviously been trying to groom
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herself with a job, trying to make us of a
national figure, trying to build a fundraising base, is probably
thinking to herself, Yeah, I could see Kamala losing, but
that's okay because I could still run. If Kamala wins,
She's never running for president. Neither his new son neither
is Pritsker, neither is Shapiro. They'll all be term limited
out and be out of office by that point.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
If forced to put your last dollar on a Trump
victory or a Kamala victory, Ryan, don't worry. We'll only
play this back after the election. If you're right, who
wins election.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
We've done this so many times now. Yeah, I think
right now Trump's still gonna win. I still think that
he has comes back. I still think, yeah, I still
think he's gonna win. Because this is my reasoning, my
rationale for it. One, I do think that there's an
internal bias among voters for female candidates for president. That's
politically correct, but I do believe that's true. Secondly, Harris,
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I mean, she went from being the character on VEEP
to being like this cool woman who just is It's
very bizarre. I don't believe that the hype is true
from the internet. And then lastly, Trump has always, always,
always overperformed poles in the russ Belts. I think he
will do it again. I fundamentally do. Back in twenty twenty,
he was down six points in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
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Right now he is down between point one to two
point seven in those three states. I do think he
can overperform in the end. And like I said before,
the support he hasn't been losing support, it's just disenfranchised
Democrats have been building towards Harris. But I think that
support is there for him too. He just needs to
really really double down on the white working class of
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the Midwest and speak to those voters.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I've been saying the same thing. I totally agree. I've
been looking at those numbers. It all makes sense to me.
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Speaker 2 (16:04):
Ryan, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You know, it's common for people to feel what they
can think of as a quote heart symptom, right, I
mean heart palpitations for example, fluttering that feeling your heart
that might be skipping a beat.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
This could be nothing, but what if they're not.
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Speaker 2 (19:05):
We've got Dan in Texas.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Now, Dan, I understand from our producers that you used
to live a couple of blocks from the Minnesota BLM riots,
and so you were there when that whole thing went down.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Tell us what happened was okay?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Well, uh, you know, obviously you know about the Floyd
George Floyd about eight blocks from where I lived. I
grew up in Minnesota, but I moved to Houston in
nineteen eighty three. I had to go back to be
with my dad for four years. And uh, you know,
you didn't we didn't expect this to happen. But when
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we found out, you know, all the things that had happened,
we realized that they were putting bricks, pallettes of bricks
on corners. You know what was that about, and so
we I was two blocks away in a mid rise,
stood on the roof and watched the whole thing burn up,
including the I got pictures of the police station, you know,
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right framing up, and you know, smoke everywhere, and you know,
they just kept was wondering.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
What were you ever concerned? Like, what would you have
done if they had come to your building?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I was scared as heck, Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I mean I would have been too, That's why I
was asking. Yeah, it's a very scary situation.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, I was two blocks from Hennepen and Lake. That's
the that's the spot. But they burned all the way
down east of that and took out the post office,
the Wells, Fargo Bank, the cub Foods, the gas station,
and then all these older buildings that lined Lake Street
all the way down to the bridge that goes over
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to Saint Paul.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But and had Minneapolis been been deteriorating for a long time.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean I haven't spent much time in that city.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
They've been there once, but I've heard from a lot
of people that that they saw it go from being
a very safe place to a city with a real
crime and disorder problem.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well he started. They started getting rid of the police,
you know, and defunding, and there's a you know, they
have a law there that says there has to be
so many police as a percentage to the population.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
They didn't care.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
They just wanted to depopulate the police, you know. And
we had Jacob fry As as the mayor, right, he's
trying to make himself out to be, you know, a hero,
and he demanded, you know, troops, and he didn't. He
just let it burn. Walls wouldn't provide any any troops.
(21:43):
We would we would stand on the top of the
building and we couldn't understand what was going on. But
we had these apps that followed airlines. I don't know
if you remember that, but there you could spot an
airline and you knew where they were going, and you
know from the app. But there was so much air
traffic that you look on the app and there was nothing.
So the government was flying over and we figured out
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it was the FBI that was watching the whole thing
from the air in small aircraft. You know, what else
do I say?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's just like, wait, Dan, one more thing before before that.
You go appreciate the call very much. Did you move
to Texas because of what happened to Minneapolis in your hometown.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yes, yes they did.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
I moved a lot of people in October yep.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, well good for you, man. I love Texas, Texas.
For me, it was Texas or Florida, So.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Good for you.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Problems here, Yeah, I mean, you know, I left New
York City, which is a city that I still love,
but it just had been run so poorly. But thank you,
thank you Dan for calling in. Yeah, I mean this
is what this is what you hear people leaving, people
leaving from from Minneapolis and from Minnesota. Ryan Gardusky, when
we talked to him just just a moment ago, said,
(22:55):
you've had fifty thousand people leave Minnesota for Wisconsin. And yeah,
these are states that don't have large populations. These are
medium population states. And so fifty thousand people's a lot
of people who are.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Just moving next door.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You've had much larger numbers doing something similar with Californians
moving to Nevada for just a higher quality of life,
no state income tax, you can own guns more easily
than you can in California, stuff like that. So there's
a whole range of that. Gotta throw the guns in there.
There's a whole range of reasons.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Why. Let's see, we have.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Bryce just speaking about California, your former senator Bryce wants
to be president.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Yeah, I guess the other day at a rally, I
heard Kamala say on day one as president, she will
get rid of inflation. Okay, she's in the White House
right now. Apparently they've neutralized Joe Biden. Nobody knows where
he is. He's probably in Delaware. Why didn't she do it? Now?
The American people would need release now in this far.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, well, I gotta tell you you're actually thank you Bryce.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
You're touching on something that that I'm hoping gets more
and more attention, which is what exactly is a is
a Kamala presidency supposed to do. I mean, I hear
all this stuff, and again I'm the one who is
now an avid watcher of Morning Joe, like I'm seeing
what the Democrat propaganda is. I'm a subscriber to The
(24:25):
New York Times, the Washington Post. I can't believe when
I say these things out loud, but I read those
papers along with everything else that I read, so I
know what they're trying to present. As the narrative, no
one has any idea of really what a Kamala Harris
presidency would do, what the policies would be, other than
a continuation of the far left agenda broadly speaking, but
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there's no singular or even group of ideas, policy ideas.
You know, you could say, well, what were the Trump
policy ideas of twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Fixed trade with China, redo trade deals, fix the border,
start building a wall. I mean, there are these things,
and you can argue about how well he did one
or the other, but there were ideas. The ideas of
the Kamala Harris president or your candidacy and would be
presidency so far.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Are joy, hope and niceness or something. I mean, it's absurd.
It's like, it's honestly that the way they.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Talk about the Kamala Harris campaign, it's like she's running
for eighth grade president of a you know, nice little
Catholic school somewhere, you know, class president. It's like, oh,
like she's going to bring joy and hope and niceness
and good manners. And by the way, she's not nice,
so you know, wait, all of her staff. This is
well established from Democrat outlets and Democrat reporting, not a
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nice person, treat your staff horribly, blames her staff for
her own shortcomings. You know, one thing that you find
so much with people who have worked with Trump for
a long time, not only do they like him, there's
a there's a real loyalty to him, even.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
In the face of you know, investigations and going to prison.
People around Trump like him.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
People around Kamala Harris, and I mean around as in
dealing with day to day away from the cameras. People
learn Kamala Harris think that she's a nightmare. And I
don't say this from opposition reporting. This was from you know,
Politico and Axios and the Washington Post. I mean, this
is the the gold standards of left wing journalism in
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America saying this about Kamala Harris. So I think we
have to accept it as true. Right when they when
they bash their own team, it's even more likely to
be the case than when the opposition is bashing them,
because it's so clear that nobody can say otherwise, right,
nobody could come up with a counter narrative.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
It's going to come out one way or the other. So,
but it is.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Amazing when you think about it if I even asked
a Kamala Harris supporter right now, what, Oh, she would
stand for women and a woman's right to choose, and
you know the middle class and like pay your fair share,
and it's all just you know, pie in the sky,
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ephemeral hot air.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's just nonsense. It's just the nonsense campaign. Honestly, what
is the one thing that Kamala Harris is saying? She's
she's gonna fix inflation.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
As our callers points out, first of all, no one's
fixing inflation on day one. The only way to fix
inflation really is to stop out of control government spending.
Nobody thinks Kamala Harris is going to stop out of
control government spending or even try.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
To deal with it.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
She's going to spend even more more socialism, more redistribution
of wealth.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Obviously. So what is the Kamala Harris presidency.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Oh, you get to say you voted for the first
black female president. That's the I think the primary value
proposition to the voter who isn't just a Democrat who
will vote for any Democrat, which unfortunately is pretty much
all Democrats. So for independent voters, it's you get to
vote for the first black female president.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
That's really it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And she's not Donald Trump. That is true, I will concede.
Kamala Harris is not Donald Trump. I think we can
all agree on that. Beyond that, what is the big
policy with the big promise? Biden's promise was clear. It
was a lie and no one should have believed it,
but it was clear it was a return to normalcy
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and bringing the country together, right, a return to normalcy
and being a uniter. He did the exact opposite. He
made this country even crazier. He went with that absolutely
insane vaccine mandate, which I will never forgive or forget.
But he did have a promise, right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
What does the guy say in the Big Lebowski, He's like,
say what you will about nihilism.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
At least it's an ethos, you know, I think the dude, no,
Walter says that. Walter says that, not the dude. One
of the better roles that that guy has done in
a long time.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That was a very good role.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But say what you will about the Biden campaign, at
least there was a promise. It was a lie, but
at least they promise something. Kamala Harris, I'm telling you
they go around promising joy and hope and happy feelings
and unicorns flying through the sky and you know, rivers
of candy. And I mean, it is an absurdity, an absurdity.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But what else are they going to say? They got nothing?
She says, Oh, you know, we're gonna fix the border.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
What does that even mean to Kamala Harris? Fix the border?
How make it even easier for illegals to come into
the country, Because that's the real answer. Again, stay calm,
stay cool, stay focused. Trump is going to win this thing.
Trump is going to win this thing.
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Speaker 2 (32:03):
Thank you. Ali in South Dakota, you left Minnesota. What's
going on? Ali?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I did?
Speaker 7 (32:09):
I heard Christino on the other day say seven thousand
families have left Minnesota for South Dakota, and I'm so
happy to be amongst them. During COVID in Minnesota, my
family was in complete disarray. I had three special education daughters,
who weren't going to school trying to learn on an iPad.
(32:29):
I worked in the media and had to go to
work every day. Well, my husband, who worked an actual
job from working from home, had to try to teach
these kids on an iPad every day. It was tears,
fighting and screaming. It was horrific what Tim Walls did
to our students, which is also funny. I mean, the
(32:49):
guy is a teacher and says he is four students
and that was certainly not our case. And on top
of it, he closed down our churches. We didn't have
a choice to go and worship our God, and he
was a complete tyrant. And so we are just blessed
beyond measure that we had the means that we could
(33:13):
get out of there. And we live in Two Falls,
South Dakota. We drove three and a half hours away
to a completely different life. The day we closed it
in our house, our kids started full every day in school,
no masks. It was like COVID didn't even exist here
in Two Falls. And we are so so happy with
(33:35):
what we did.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Thank you so much for calling in and sharing that.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And yeah, Minnesota, another place, another place that's beautiful, has
so much going forward, and then liberals come in and
ruin it, and people a lot of people leave, not
ruined it entirely. I know the lakes are still nice
and there's still a lot of great people there. But
you know what I'm saying, the same thing I feel
about New York. I love New York, but the imbeciles
in charge have pushed a lot of us out. And
(33:58):
you know when I walk, When I walk across my
home in Florida and my flip flops and on my
way to pick up my AR fifteen am my suppressor,
and then not have to pay any state income tax.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You get what I'm saying, It's pretty nice. I like
the whole Florida. Things pretty going, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Let's see Larry in New York. You have some thoughts, Laraiy,
what's up?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Thanks for taking my call. It's a pleasure to speak
with you. As a longtime listener of Russia's his positive attitude.
I learned from him that I think right now, with
all these polls coming out saying that she's back in
the race and she could win and all this other stuff,
maybe she will, but I think right now what Rush
would be telling us if he was here is don't
(34:50):
believe all this hype. Just like back in twenty sixteen
when they said that Hillary had a seventeen point lead
in Wisconsin, she didn't. Russia's positive approach would be just
telling us now, don't believe everything that they're filling our
ears with because we still believe that Trump.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Is going to win this thing. Larry, I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And I'll tell you you know, as a long time
listener to Rush myself, sometimes I try to think about
if Rush were in the room as I was doing
the show.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And we could talk in a break, what would he say,
What would he think about it? What do you be
with me on this one?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I mean, you've listened to somebody long enough, the truth
is you actually have a much better sense of their mind,
just as you do about where Rush would come down
on this.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I do think that Rush was in many ways the.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Ultimate happy warrior of politics and positive and came out
of a sense of optimism and love for this incredible
country and the fact that you have to have the
right mindset in order to keep it, in order to
fight for it, in order to preserve it. You know,
if you get too down, you get too depressed, you
get too anxious. You're not as capable of being the
(36:00):
steward of this project in liberty as you otherwise would be.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And so I agree with our caller. I think that.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Whether he's talking about Russia's perspective on this, I think
that we just have to, as I keep saying, stay focused,
stay frosty, stay.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Dialed in.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Trump is going to pull this one off because he
knows the stakes and he knows what the future holds
if he's in charge versus Kamala Harris, and he doesn't
have to do this.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
He could go just play golf at his you.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Know, five hundred million dollars billion dollar Mar A Lago resort.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
For the rest of his days and spend time with
his grandkids.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
He is in this fight to win this fight, and
I think he deserves our full faith at this at
this moment, and of course our full and ongoing support,
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