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August 9, 2024 60 mins
Kamala’s creds. Ryan Girdusky explains the Kamala surge. This isn’t a High School election. Julie Kelly with Trump latest.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody Monday. I'm sorry Friday. I knew that
was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Friday edition of The Klaid, Travis and Buck Sexton Shows.
You can tell having a little bit of a hell,
a little bit of a cold today. This is Bob
Clay is out. He is out on vacation, having a
lovely time celebrating his twentieth anniversary. He's out next week too.
I assume by Monday my voice will be normal, So apologies.
Today I have hydrated. I have had as much Crocket

(00:26):
coffee as I safely can without spiraling off into orbit.
So we are gonna get into all of it today,
and I'm gonna remember what day it is. I just
was reading something right as we started, so it could
happen to the best of us. Also on a little
bit of cold med So if I say anything crazy,
if all of a sudden I devolve into a Kamala

(00:46):
Harris style word salad.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I will blame it on the day quill.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
So we've got a lot going on here. Vice President
Harris and the campaign strategy that they're trying to explain
to people as something other than hide the candidate, but
it is hide the candidate.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
That will be something that we dive into.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
We've got Ryan Gerdusky joining us in the second hour,
talk about the battleground states, the polling, the latest on
the numbers. Should folks be concerned, I say no. I
say we should be focused, we should be energized, we
should be ready for the fight ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
But scared.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I think Trump's got this. I believe it in my bones,
I feel it in my toes. I think Trump has
got this thing. So that doesn't mean that we can
take our foot off the pedal. It just means that
we should have a quiet confidence and a steely determination
about this upcoming election. You've also got prosecutors asking for

(01:51):
a three week delay in Donald Trump's twenty twenty election
obstruction case.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
We'll talk to Julie Kelly about that.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
And the body cam footage as well that has come
out from the attempted assassination of Donald Trump or the
shooting of Donald Trump, which is also what happened. We'll
talk to Julie Kelly about that. In the third hour.
I wanted to get us started here with the Kamala
Harris phenomenon.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
In this moment.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I was reading this morning the Kamala Harris Autobiography. And
if you're wondering, it is as boring, however boring you
think the Kamala Harris autobiography may be. The Truths We Hold,
the Truths we Hold, however boring you think it is.
It is more boring than that. But this is what

(02:40):
I do for you.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
This is the dedication to this job that I have.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Even with a nasty sniffle, I wake up early in
the morning, drink my crocket coffee and read The Truths
We Hold. It's not even a good title, which for
a memoir, you know you think that would be part one.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Not even a good title. Definitely not a good book.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
And it's interesting because without the political skills to sell
the messaging in the book, it all is bound to
fall flat, meaning there's not enough to go with. There's
not enough struggle, there's not enough interesting story in Kamala's background.
I mean really, one of the more interesting parts of

(03:21):
her life before she became a senator and a state
Attorney general, I guess would have been her social life.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Just saying so, there's.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Not a lot to work with here, and that's why
the whole strategy has come down to don't let the
American people see who this candidate really is, because they're
just hoping in the same way that the plan was
to hide Biden's dementia from the American people long enough
that it's too late.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Oh sorry, we fooled you.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
You voted just enough to put him into office for
four more years and then have Kamala take over. The
plan now is to have some the undecided, some of
the persuadable voters think maybe Kamala is actually pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Maybe she's young, she's hip, she sees the future.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
She's running a campaign. They're using the word that they
use for Obama so much hope. Oh it's a campaign
of hope and joy. Well, I am hoping that people
aren't swindled by this nonsense, and I hope that the
American people get to see who Kamala Harris really is.
This is one of the biggest exercises in gaslighting I

(04:34):
can think of in modern American history. Just as a
point of quick review, and you can do a fast
Internet search and see these articles. It has been known
by Democrats for all of the Biden presidency that Kamala
was a failure, hadn't established her own brand, was unimpressive

(04:56):
and was really just a huge disappointment to the Democrats
who put her in this role. But look, when you
make decisions based on these superficial characteristics of gender and race,
this kind of thing can happen. It was never about
Kamala Harris is brilliant, has a vision, makes great decisions,

(05:16):
has a record to be proud of. It was Oh,
she's a Democrat and she is a black woman. She
is an Indian woman as well, you know South Asian background,
and so that's what we need, right, That's what we
need in this role to complete the picture. It's about
the cover of the book, not what's inside the book.
And as I said, the true as we hold the book.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Is not good. It is not good.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
But they thought they could push this forward and they're
trying to do it right now without anybody being.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
I guess we're all the wiser, but we're.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Just supposed to take this this huge switch from Kamala
as a drag on the Biden ticket to Kamala is
the leader we need in this moment.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
The same the same people.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's not that I disagree with these individuals who are
saying this stuff now, it's that they were saying something
entirely different again anti truth, not just untrue, anti truth.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Kamala has gone from so.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Bad she makes Biden look bad, and that was a
year ago, that was six months ago, that was maybe
even three weeks ago, so bad she makes Biden look
bad to oh my gosh, isn't she amazing?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Isn't she doing?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
And I have to credit some of the acting jobs
that I've seen, of course on Morning Joe. Wow, I'm
going deep into the communist headquarters, aren't I? I mean,
thank god, I'm drinking my Crocket in the morning to
keep me feeling the freedom, because otherwise I'm reading Kamala's
autobiography of watching Morning Joe. I mean really, I'm getting
a PhD in comy. But I'm sitting there and I'm

(06:51):
looking at how they are trying to create. They're trying
to generate an entirely false enthusiasm about her. The enthusiasm
is for the Democrat machine being in charge. The enthusiasm
that they're trying to draw upon is for Donald Trump
to not be president. But they have to dress that
up as something else. They have to create this belief

(07:13):
that Kamala is fantastic. The problem with that, other than
the most obvious thing of all, which is that she
is even for a Democrat, she is a weak politician,
and she's also a far left politician. You cannot run
away from things like I would banfracking. You cannot run
away from raising money for people who are burning down

(07:35):
neighborhoods in Minneapolis because they're unhappy about something that.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Had nothing to do with them. Another thing that.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Never really gets said about is the death of George Floyd.
The people, whether they were in Minneapolis or anywhere else,
they had nothing to do with them. It was a
criminal case. They found the police officer guilty. I disagree
with the verdict, but that is the justice system that
we have.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
It actually had nothing to do with them.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Burning down things, looting things because they're upset about something
that happened somebody else. Think about that logic for a second.
So am I allowed to burn down something? Because I
think it's really unjust that there are Democrats, including Kamala's
vice president Walls, who want twelve year olds to make
irreversible and incredibly damaging gender changes to themselves. Like if

(08:18):
I went and burned something down over that, I'd be
an arsonist. I'd go to prison. Oh, but it's about
social justice, so it's okay. No kamall A push that
stuff because that is Unfortunately, the mob mentality is central
to the Democrat party. It's why they are collectivists ideologically.
I mean, this is very deep seated psychological stuff for Democrats.

(08:41):
It comes from both that very noxious combination of extreme
arrogance and extreme insecurity that committed leftists have. They think
they should be in charge of everyone else on everything,
but they also feel deeply insufficient themselves, know at some
level that they are unimpressive, they are weak will, they

(09:04):
are scared. They're scared all the time. In fact, a
lot of the worst things that happen in the world
come from fearfulness. We think of it as as just viciousness,
but viciousness is the secondary characteristic after people being fearful.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough, I'll never
make it. I'm scared, so I'm going to do terrible things. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I didn't think i'd get too deep into the democrats
psychology today, but here we are. I'm getting into Kamala
Harris's psychology, which is why, Oh, I have Kamala's way too.
I have the authorized biography. Oh yes, I'm reading that
one as well. I'm not on vacation. I'm just at
an undisclosed freedom Bunker location. And I had to get
some reading done, or had had to have some reading

(09:45):
for by the pool. And sure enough, Kamala's way and
the truth we hold. I'm not learning very much either.
It's all pretty known. Kamala's resume is quite flimsy. I mean, yes,
she was a prosecutor.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Think about that.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
You're prosecutor in San Francisco. A lot of prosecutors, a
lot of attorneys in cities across the country. Did she
clean up San Francisco? Did she make it impressive as
a city or did she make it worse? Did San
Francisco get better or worse? While she had the power
to do something about it?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
It got worse?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Did the state of California get better or worse? While
she had the power to do something about it got
a lot worse? And did the United States of America
get better or worse while she was vice president and
given things like the border as borders are under her control.
We see a pattern here, right, and now she's going

(10:35):
to be president. Talk about failing upwards. It's remarkable. But
the New York Times trying to explain to everybody that
this is nothing to see, no problem at all. Vice
President Harris, this is from the New York Times. I'm
reading to you. This was on her front page today again.
I guess reading New York Times in the morning.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
This is what I do. I do this so you
don't have to.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Vice President Kamala Harris has granted an interview, has not
granted an interview or held a news conference since President
and Biden endorsed her for president. Critics say she has
been too cautious with the press. Her supporters think it's
the right strategy right now. Look at the way they're
setting this up. That's a quote, Okay, that is New
York Times first paragraph. Really the sub subheading of their

(11:17):
main story on Kamala today on the website. And they're
making it seem like this is brilliant strategy. It's a deception, right,
It is a deception. If I told you, hey, hey,
I want you to come buy a house, and I
say the house is amazing.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's a beautiful house. You're gonna love this house future generations.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I don't why I'm turning into Trump future generations of
your family. Beautiful house, the most beautiful yard you've ever seen,
big beautiful yard, swimming pool, greatest swimming pool on.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Our I'm telling you all about this house, and you're
getting excited. You're like, oh, wow, that sounds amazing. And
I tell you. I tell you the price. You say, oh,
that's the price. That's that's a great deal. Let me
see the house.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
And I go no, no, no, no, no, not not yet,
not yet. I say, well, hold on a second. You
might be thinking to yourself that that seems to be
a bit of a red flag, right, No, come on,
let me see for myself.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I really I just want to walk through it one time. No,
I can't. I can't let you see this house yet.
Maybe maybe at.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Some point in the future. But I want you to
make up your mind now as to whether you're whether
you will buy it. You know, we can sign the
contract later, but I want you to tell me now.
I want you to give me verbal agreement. You're gonna
buy this house without seeing it. That is the game
the Democrats are playing with the Kamala Harris candidacy. They
want people to be all in without knowing what they're

(12:40):
all in for they want people to be excited about
something without understanding what they're getting excited about.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
And this comes after the gas lighting, So it was gaslighting.
Kamala used to be horrible.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Now the exact same people who are Democrats who are
saying she was terrible are saying she's amazing. Gas lighting
And while they've now transitioned into the she's amazing phase,
they're saying, Oh, we're not going to show it to
you because it's brilliant strategy.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And then they say Republicans.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Are bouncing on this, Well, yeah, if you're trying to
hide the product in this case a politician from the
people who are the consumers in this case, the voters
that would seem to be the basis of concern, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
This is why, And.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'll break down more of the numbers, and we talked
yesterday about white working class voters in swing states and
we'll speak to Ryan Gardusky.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
About that later as well.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
But this is why I still have a quiet confidence
in the Trump ticket, because they can only hide for
so long, and when the hiding stops, it's going to
be Kamala Harris out there for all the American people
to see and hear from, and she at some point
she has agreed to at least one debate. At some

(14:01):
point she's going to have to stand on a stage
and explain why she has said and done some of
the most radical left wing things imaginable. So we will
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You'd help me with my voice too. So it's doing
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
Our friend Ryan Gurdusky joins.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
He is the author of the National Populist news letter,
which you can subscribe to on substack. He's the founder
of the seventeen seventy six Project PAC, master of election data,
and quite a very nice fellow, mister Ryan Gerdusky.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
How are you good? To have you on?

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Good?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Thanks for having me all right, So, I don't know
if you've been hearing this at all. And of course
you listen to Clay and Buck show every day, so
you must have been hearing it. But let's just area
for a second, every day, all three hours the sense
that Clay has he is concerned, he is worried about
this election.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I am not worried. I am quietly confident.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Should we be worried based on the numbers you are
seeing now?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
And if so, why?

Speaker 7 (16:48):
I mean, look, it's it is. It's Republicans are doing
with the whiplash right now. Two and a half weeks ago,
Republicans had a real chance at winning New Jersey, and
now they're in competition in Georgia again. So we're we
are in a position that we are not as comfortable
as we certainly were under Biden.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Right before he dropped out.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
However, Donald Trump is still polling better than he ever
did at any time he's ever run for office, aside
from the last month with Joe Biden. He's certainly pulling
better than he did in twenty twenty, certainly better than
he did in twenty sixteen. I'll break it down by
the few poles that have come out in the last
couple of weeks. This is according to a voter hub
Harris right now has on the last three polls. In Pennsylvania,

(17:31):
Harris has a point six percent lead to a point
one percent lead, depending on how many poles you count Michigan.
In Michigan, Harris's lead is point two seven, In Wisconsin,
its point is one point two, and in Nevada it's
point eight. In North Carolina, Trump leads by two, Georgia

(17:55):
Trump leads by point six, and in Arizona, Trump leads
by one point two. Now, with the exception of just Georgia,
all of these numbers are still better than where he
was in twenty twenty and in twenty sixteen in all
of these states. And I will say that a lot
of what we're seeing as far as Harris searge go

(18:17):
is not a lot of people dropping from the Trump
train and going over to Harris. It's people. It's disenfranchised
and disenfranchised Democrats, especially a lot of minorities and young
people who did not like Joe Biden but are comfortab
voting for Kamala Harris. That is the Kamala Harris search.
There is a ceiling to that surge. It's not a

(18:38):
never ending growth that has no limitation to it, and
it is a bit of a sugar high. I have
never seen in my life someone searged ten points with
favorability and managed to keep it. I mean she searched
ten points overnight and managed to keep it for very long.
She hasn't opened her mouth up. Her running mate is
a lunatic and absolute far left branch nut bag. So

(19:02):
there is definitely going to be some recourse over time.
It's just is there enough time to get where there
needs to be? That's the big question.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
How is it looking right now in Well, actually there's
two parts of this. One is how's it looking right
now in Pennsylvania for Trump?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
And the second part.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Is is Pennsylvania basically do or die for both candidates?

Speaker 7 (19:28):
I don't see a way that Harris can win without Pa.
There is a path to Trump if he loses Pa.
You win Wisconsin, when Arizona win, Georgia and North Carolina
and win, Harris cannot win without Pennsylvania. There's no path
for her without Pennsylvania. And I will remind people, I mean,
Pennsylvania has the more accurate polling as far as midst

(19:50):
as far as Rust belt states go. It's certainly easier
to pull because they do register voters by party, not
by self identification in the polls on like Missi again
and Wisconsin, where you just register to vote and you're
a registered voter and you decide if you're a Republican
or Democrat when you go vote in primaries. NPA, you
have to vote with a party, and you have to
stick to the party, and you can only vote in

(20:10):
the party's primaries. So it's a little easier to find
where voters are in Pennsylvania. It's listen to Pennsylvania is extremely, extremely,
extremely important. There's no other way to say it. There
are certain factors working against Trump. Mainly one the areas
of the Coller Counties are in Philadelphia have definitely grown
in population. They're more liberal than they used to be.

(20:34):
And the rural counties have been emptying out over the
last several decades, including the four years since Trump last
ran in eight years since he won the state. But
Republican registration is up in a lot of the cities
where Trump's immense games from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty,
cities like Redding, Lancaster, Proper City, even Philadelphia. Because a

(20:56):
surge of a Hispanic and Asian population, that population is
can tinue to grow, and Trump's support within that population
has continued to grow. You'll see precincts if you look
at precinct changes from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, where
there were precincts that Trump got three percent five percent
the first time in twenty sixteen, where he got twenty
two to twenty three, twenty four percent the second time.

(21:16):
That will help offset some of the suburban trends away
from Trump.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's being Ryan Gardusky National populist newsletters his on substack.
Highly recommend you subscribe. I'm a subscriber. I read it
every week.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Ryan.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Now, let's look at the demographics that could determine this election,
and let's start with one that I know you've done
a lot of number crunching on white working class voters,
white male working class voters in the russ belt.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Are they likely to be definitive?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Are they likely to just be a big piece of
of a larger pie? I mean, what do you make
of their role in this?

Speaker 7 (21:58):
So let's say winning a winning a probably making a
Republican a president. Winning a Republican presidential candidacy is like
making a cake. If that if that was the analogy
I'm using, White working classmen are the batter. You cannot
make a cake without the batter. It is impossible. And

(22:19):
it's not a question of are they going to support Trump?
They overwhelmingly are. Maybe a third might vote for Kamala,
but maybe even less than that, maybe even a quarter.
It's a matter of turnout. Whites without a college degree
have the worst to have the history of the worst
voter turnout of any group among among blacks, college educated whites,

(22:40):
and non college go whites.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
They turn to least.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
Only His recent immigrants like Hispanics turnout less than they do.
That is the most important game is if they can
sit there and make an actually show up and show
up in big numbers. If they can, then the election
is definitely going to go into one way, which will
go to Trump, and there are more of them. I mean,
this is what there's a wild fascination and this dream,

(23:05):
this fever dream among a lot of Republican donors that
they're going to win twenty five percent of the black vote,
thirty percent of the black votes, and something like that.
For every one percent of the black vote that they
hope to gain, it would be the equivalent of if
they gain one percent more with a white vote, it
would be like gaining five points with the black vote.
And they are much more important in the more important
states Michigan, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, a lot of retirees,

(23:32):
all those North Carolina. Winning those voters and winning the
low hanging fruit is much easier and it's much more important.
It's but it's a persuasion thing. It's a turnout game,
and I think that's really where the election is won
or loss, and it's primarily when I lost in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
You might have seen Ryan.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
There's some there's some back and forth chatter on x
now over whether the Trump ground game in the key
states and specific to do the turnout operations that you
were just talking about for non college educated white voters,
is strong enough? Do you have a view on that,

(24:10):
do you have some insight into how Trump seems to
be doing? And then just also what is a really
strong ground game for those voters look like?

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Well, I think that what I would like to see more.
I don't know if I don't know how. I've heard
good things about the turnout about the ground game, but
I don't know enough. So I'm not going to sit
there and delve into what it is. But what I
would like to see more is more coalitions building, So
a coalition that and we can talk about racial coalitions
the way that Harris does, or we can talk without

(24:41):
economic coalitions. There is a substantial amount of people in
this country, for example, who live in motor homes, who
live in motor home communities, especially ironically, they live primarily
in swing states. I think it's almost twenty million live
primarily in swing states Arizona, Georgia, Florida used to be
a swing state, but flo Nevada, and Pennsylvania. One of

(25:03):
their big issues is they don't own the land that
they have their mobile home on. And a lot of
times corporations and big hedge funds buy the land and
out umprice them out, and they become homeless. It's a
big conversation happening within microcosms of this country. Targeting people
like that, Targeting people within certain unions with the Trump
campaign has done very successfully as well as going after

(25:26):
not only simply just minorities or white people whatever, but
targeting within white voters, certain ethnic coalitions. Talking about Christopher
Columbus statues is extremely important with Italian Americans, There's certain
things with Eastern European Americans who make up huge percentages
of Pennsylvania. And talking about those kinds of conversations specifically

(25:49):
with white voters, I think is very very important. There's
also conversations that we had generationally. I think JD. Evans
being a millennial is very important. People who are millennials.
We went through a different upbringing than other generations. We
had a very hard time. We had the Iraq War,
we had the two thousand and eight recession, we had
the dot com bubble. There was a lot of things

(26:10):
in when we were going into both high schools and
college and post college careers that held a lot of
millennials back from owning a home, from starting their life
earlier on, and a lot of student debt, those kinds
of conversations. He is unique to have because he had
that experience. Waltz didn't, Harris didn't. Even Trump didn't because
they're just at a certain age. I think Jdvance could

(26:31):
speak to those voters and speak those voters, especially in
the Midwest and in the sun Belts.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
You touched on this, Ryan, but I wanted to just
have you get into a little bit more. I mean,
I like the way you said it that Walls is
a lunatic. Is it clear in your mind already based
on the reaction to Walls as the pick, as well
as how the numbers have moved, that this was a
mistake that is just common and making a bad decision.

(26:58):
Or do you feel like they can still turn this
into Walls appealing to those white working class voters in
the swing states to maybe peel some off from Trump.
Not that many, but enough that it could be the
difference in Wisconsin or Michigan.

Speaker 7 (27:13):
Well, it might be the difference. But since Walls became governor,
fifty thousand people in Minnesota moved to Wisconsin. So a
lot of people know who Walls is and decided to leave.
I think that should be exacerbated and delved into as
to who are these people and why do they leave.
If they left because they hate Walls, make sure they're
going to go vote in Wisconsin. And that says of

(27:33):
twenty twenty two, I'm sure in twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four that number is actually even higher. That's
one thing, but also Walls's essential problem is he chases
the most fringe, lunatic elements of the Internet, and that's
where he finds his base. Defunding Ice. He marched in
their things, tampons in boys bathrooms, his wife's saying that

(27:55):
she likes the smell of burning cities. These are the
pole Bill. Everything BLM was completely lunatic, fringe ideas, and
he embraced every single one of them. He chased the
Internet crowd wherever they went. He hosted someone who made
a mom who did pro Hitler movies, and celebrated the

(28:18):
October seventh massacres at the governor's mansion in Minnesota. He
is the most fringe person. On the outside, he looks
like he could be every Midwesterner's dad, But on the inside,
you know if he was on MSNBC, Rachel Matta would
tell him to calm down. That's how crazy this man
actually is. And I think that that needs to be

(28:39):
exposed is don't buy the pack. Don't buy the wrapping
on the package. What's inside the package is actually horrendous
for you, and you wouldn't want it if you were
given as a gift.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Do you buy?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
The New York Times reporting that it really did just
come down the VP pick came down to who Kama liked,
and it was heard they let it be her decision
or was it really just mostly anti semitism. You can't
have Shapiro, even though he'd probably help you win Pennsylvania.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
I probably would guess the first part that it was
really who Harris liked. I think that she probably really
want I mean, Harris's dreamed of this moment for a
very very long time, and she probably wanted somebody would
always play second Bill to her. Josh Shapiro probably wouldn't.
I don't know why they didn't pick Mark Kelly. Maybe
just didn't go well. But Shapiro is very very ambitious.
He wants to be present. He's tried to make himself

(29:26):
in the image of a Jewish Obama, and I think
that it would have been a lot of competition, and
it would have been a lot of anger if Democrats
were truly serious though about her chances. If there were
a lot of Democrats, you would have saw Gretchen Whitmer
and Newsom and Pritzker really throw their hat in the ring.
I think a lot of Democrats are pessimistic, but if
she can win, because if she does win, right, no

(29:51):
matter if she wins a second term or enough, Democrats
are out. A lot of these leading Democrats for the
future are out of the running until twenty thirty too,
a lot of them will retire. Their whole chance of
being president will be over. So I think internally, a
lot of and in the back of their minds, someone
who's like Retchen Wimer obviously been trying to groom herself

(30:13):
with a job, trying to make us off a national figure,
trying to build a fundraising base, is probably thinking to herself, Yeah,
I could see Kamala losing, but that's okay because I
could still run. If Kamala wins, She's never running for president.
Neither his new Sun, Neither is Pritzker, neither is Shapiro.
They'll all be term limited out and be out of
office by that point.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
If forced to put your last dollar on a Trump
victory or a Kamala victory, Ryan, don't worry. We'll only
play this back after the election. If you're right, who
wins election.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
We've done this so many times now. Yeah, I think
right now Trump's still gonna win. I still think that
he has back. I still think, yeah, I still think
he's gonna win. Because this is my reasoning, my rationale
for it. One, I do think that there's an internal
bias among voters for female candidates or president. That's politically correct,
but I do believe that's true. Secondly, Harris, I mean,

(31:05):
she went from being the character on VEEP to being
like this cool woman who just is It's very bizarre.
I don't believe that the hype is true from the internet.
And then lastly, Trump has always, always, always overperformed poles
in the russ Belts. I think he will do it again.
I fundamentally do. Back in twenty twenty, he was down
six points in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Right now he

(31:28):
is down between point one to two point seven in
those three states. I do think he can overperform in
the end. And like I said before, the supports he
hasn't been losing support. It's just disenfranchised Democrats have been
building towards Harris. But I think that support is there
for him too. He just needs to really really double
down on the white working class of the Midwest and

(31:50):
speak to those voters.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I've been saying the same thing. I totally agree. I've
been looking at those numbers. It all makes sense to me.
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Thank you.

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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Voices of Sanity in Insane World.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck want to got some
of your calls here? Eight hundred two eight two two
eight a two on those phone lines. If you want
to join in on the fun. We've got Dan in Texas. Now, Dan,
I understand from our producers that you used to live
a couple of blocks from the Minnesota BLM riots, and
so you were there when that whole thing went down.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Tell us what happened?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
What?

Speaker 8 (33:53):
Okay, Well, you know, obviously you know about the Floyd
George Floyd about eight blocks from where I lived. I
grew up in Minnesota, but I moved to Houston in
nineteen eighty three. I had to go back to be
with my dad for four years. And uh, you know,
you didn't we didn't expect this to happen. But when

(34:15):
we found out, you know, all the things that had happened,
we realized that they were putting bricks, pallettes of bricks
on corners. You know what was that about? And so
we I was two blocks away in a mid rise,
stood on the roof and watched the whole thing burn up,
including the pictures of the police station in you know,

(34:38):
right framing up and you know, smoke everywhere, and you know,
they just kept was.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Wondering what were you ever concerned? Like what would you
have done if they had come to your building?

Speaker 8 (34:50):
I was scared as heck.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, I mean I.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Would have been too, That's why I was asking. Yeah,
it's a very scary situation.

Speaker 8 (34:57):
Yeah, I was two blocks from Hinnepen in Lake That's
that's the spot. But they burned all the way down
east of that and took out the post office, the Wells,
Fargo Bank, the cub Foods, the gas station, and then
all these older buildings that lined Lake Street all the

(35:17):
way down to the bridge that goes over to Saint Paul.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
But and had Minneapolis been deteriorating for a long time.
I mean I haven't spent much time in that city.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
They've been there once, but I've heard from a lot
of people that that they saw it go from being
a very safe place to a city with a real
crime and disorder problem.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
Well, they started, they started getting rid of the police,
you know, and defunding. And there's a you know, they
have a law there that says there has to be
so many police as a percentage to the population. They
didn't care. They just wanted to depopulate the police, you know.
And we had Jacob Pryor as the mayor, right he's

(36:03):
trying to make himself out to be, you know, a hero,
and he demanded, you know, troops, and he didn't. He
just let it burn. Walls wouldn't provide any any troops.
We would we would stand on the top of the
building and we couldn't understand what was going on. But
we had these apps that followed airlines. I don't know

(36:25):
if you remember that, but there you could spot an
airline and you knew where they were going, and you
know from the app. But there was so much air
traffic that you look on the app and there was nothing.
So the government was flying over and we figured out
the FBI that was watching the whole thing from the
air in small aircraft. You know what else do I say?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's just like, wait, Dan, one more thing before before that.
You go appreciate the call very much. Did you move
to Texas because of what happened to Minneapolis in your hometown?

Speaker 8 (36:57):
Yes, yes they did. I moved a lot of people
in October yep.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, well good for you, man. I love Texas. Texas.
For me, it was Texas or Florida, So.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Good for you. Problems here, yeah, I mean, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Left New York City, which is a city that I
still love, but it just had been run so poorly.
But thank you, thank you Dan for calling in. Yeah,
I mean, this is what you hear, people leaving, people
leaving from from Minneapolis and from Minnesota. Ryan Gardusky, when
we talked to him just a moment ago, said, you've
had fifty thousand people leave Minnesota for Wisconsin, and fifty

(37:33):
thousand these are states that don't have large populations. These
are medium population states, and so fifty thousand people's a
lot of people who are just.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Moving next door.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
You've had much larger numbers doing something similar with Californians
moving to Nevada for just a higher quality of life,
no state income tax, you can own guns more easily
than you can in California, stuff like that. So there's
a whole range of gotta throw the guns in there.
There's a whole range of reasons.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
Why.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Let's see, we have.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Bryce just speaking about California, your former senator Bryce wants
to be president.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, I guess the other day at a rally, I
heard Kamala say on day one as president, she will
get rid of inflation. Okay, she's in the White House
right now. Apparently they've neutralized Joe Biden. Nobody knows where
he is. He's probably in Delaware. Why didn't she do
it now? The American people would need relief now, and

(38:35):
it's far Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Well, I got to tell you you're actually thank you Bryce.
You're touching on something that I'm hoping gets more and
more attention, which is what exactly is is a Kamala
presidency supposed to do. I mean, I hear all this stuff,
and again I'm the one who is now an avid
watcher of Morning Joe, like I'm seeing what the Democrat

(38:56):
propaganda is. I'm a subscriber to the New York Times
of Washington. I can't believe when I say these things
out loud, but I read those papers along with everything
else that I read, so I know what they're trying
to present as the narrative. No one has any idea
of really what a Kamala Harris presidency would do, what
the policies would be, other than a continuation of the

(39:19):
far left agenda broadly speaking, but there's no singular or
even group of ideas, policy ideas. You know, you could say, well,
what were the Trump policy ideas of twenty sixteen? Oh,
I don't know, fix trade with China, redo trade deals,
fix the border, start building a wall. I mean, there
are these things, and you can argue about how well

(39:40):
he did one or the.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Other, but there were ideas.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
The ideas of the Kamala Harris president or candidacy and
would be presidency so far are.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Joy, hope and niceness or something. I mean, it's absurd.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
It's like, it's honestly that the hey, they talk about
the Kamala Harris campaign. It's like she's running for eighth
grade president of a you know, nice little Catholic school somewhere,
you know, class president.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
It's like, oh, like she's gonna bring joy and hope
and niceness and good manners.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
And by the way, she's not nice. So you know, wait,
all of her staff.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
This is well established from Democrat outlets and Democrat reporting.
Not a nice person, treats your staff horribly, blames her
staff for her own shortcomings. You know, one thing that
you find so much with people who have worked with
Trump for a long time, not only do they like him,
there's a there's a real loyalty to him, even in
the face of you know, investigations and going to prison.

(40:43):
People around Trump like him, people around Kamala Harris, and
I mean around as in dealing with day to day
away from the cameras, people learn Kamala Harris thinks she's
a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
And I don't say this from opposition reporting. This was
from you.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Know, Politico and Axios and the World Washington Post. I mean,
this is the the gold standards of left wing journalism
in America saying this about Kamala Harris. So I think
we have to accept it as true. Right when when
they bash their own team, it's even more likely to
be the case than when the opposition is bashing them,

(41:18):
because it's so clear that nobody can say otherwise, right,
nobody could come up with a counter narrative. It's gonna
come out one way or the other. So, but it
is amazing when you think about it. If I even
asked a Kamala Harris supporter right now, what.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Oh she would stand for women and a woman's right
to choose and you know the middle class and like
pay your fair share, and it's all just you know,
pie in the sky, ephemeral hot air. It's just nonsense.

(41:52):
It's just the nonsense campaign. Honestly, what is the one
thing that Kamala Harris is saying. She's she's gonna fix
and fla.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
As our callers points out, first of all, no one's
fixing inflation on day one. The only way to fix
inflation really is to stop out of control government spending.
Nobody thinks Kamala Harris is going to stop out of
control government spending or even try to deal with it.
She's going to spend even more more socialism, more redistribution
of wealth.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Obviously, So what is the Kamala Harris presidency?

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Oh, you get to say you voted for the first
black female president. That's the I think the primary value
proposition to the voter who isn't just a Democrat who
will vote for any Democrat, which unfortunately is pretty much
all Democrats. So for independent voters, it's you get to
vote for the first black female president.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
That's really it. And she's not Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
That is true. I will concede Kamala Harris is not
Donald Trump. I think we can all agree on that.
Beyond that, what is the big policy with the big promise?
Biden's promise was clear it was a lie and no
one should have believed it, but it was clear it
was a return to normalcy and bringing the country together, right,

(43:08):
a return to normalcy and being a uniter. He did
the exact opposite. He made this country even crazier. He
went with that absolutely insane vaccine mandate, which I will
never forgive or forget. But he did have a promise, right.
What does the guy say in the Big Lebowski, He's like,
say what you will about nihilism. At least it's an ethos,

(43:30):
you know, I think the dude, no, Walter says that.
Walter says that, not the dude. One of the better
roles that that guy has done in a long time.
That was a very good role. But say what you
will about the Biden campaign, at least there was a promise.
It was a lie, but at least they promise something.
Kamala Harris, I'm telling you, they go around promising joy

(43:51):
and hope and happy feelings and unicorns flying through the
sky and you know, rivers of candy, and I mean
it is an absurd and absurdity.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
But what else are they going to say? They got nothing?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
She says, Oh, you know, we're gonna fix the border.
What does that even mean to Kamala Harris? Fix the border?
How make it even easier.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
For illegals to come into the country.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Because that's the real answer. Again, stay calm, stay cool,
stay focused. Trump is going to win this thing. Trump
is going to win this thing.

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Speaker 2 (46:08):
Let's start with this so I feel like, you know,
sometimes in high school math you get like half credit
if the answer wasn't right, but you were close. I've
been saying that Chuckkin was going to work at warp
speed to get the Trump trial for J six back
on track. I think in fairness that is true. Chuckkin

(46:31):
has broken all speed records, even post Supreme Court decision
for trying to move this along. The piece of the
pie that I didn't expect was what we just found
out from Jack Smith regarding the J sixth trial of Trump.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
What can you tell us right?

Speaker 9 (46:48):
So you're absolutely right, Buck, So Judge Chuck and the
Obama appointee with the long record as I've recorded, of
making anti Trump statements in court as she's handling J
six cases, lying actually about what happened that day is
early as last month, So recall Bucks, she set the
very quick seven month timetable between indictment and trial. This

(47:10):
case was supposed to go to trial in March. That
was put on hold weight awaiting the Supreme Court's decision
on immunity. So as soon as this got kicked back
to her court last Friday, she immediately took action. She
set a deadline for today, August ninth, for both sides
to file a joint status report on where they were,

(47:31):
you know, in terms of how to move forward pre
trial deadlines, et cetera, and then set a hearing date
for next Friday. Okay, well that's called rocket docket. Everyone
was waiting for this for Judge Chuckkin, because she's chomping
at the bit to get this restart.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Can I just jump in and tell you, Julie, I've
got a few friends who are former federal prosecutors, worked,
you know, clerk for federal judges, and they all laugh.
They're like, this is no judge ever moves at this
kind of speed. I mean, she is pedaled to the
men and then some.

Speaker 9 (48:02):
And also Chief Justice. Chief Justice John Roberts noted in
their opinion on Immunity on a number of occasions book,
how quickly this moved from the district court to the
appellate court to the Supreme Court. He actually criticized the judges,
doesn't mention them by name, but saying how quickly this moved.

(48:24):
They didn't even hold she didn't even hold a hearing
on an unprecedented matter. She just simply wrote this order
saying no, former presidents are not immune from criminal prosecution.
That's the way it is. She didn't even have a
hearing like we saw routinely and Judge Cannon's court room
in Florida related to substantive motions. So she was doing

(48:45):
she was large and in charge whatever she wanted to do.
She imposed the gag order. As you recall, the gag
order book was so egregious and so broad that the
Appellate Court DC, a free Democrat panel, had to pare
it back because it was so overly brought. So no obviously, prosecutors,
people who are fair minded are shocked to see her

(49:07):
do this. So now Jack Smith had to file last night.
I don't think anyone was expecting this, including Trump's attorneys
asking for an extension of the deadline on the status
report and the status hearing. So this basically will push
this into late August, mid September for a hearing, and
we'll see what Judge chuck Kin comes back with. Now

(49:29):
she is the final faith, so she could say no,
I'll give you another week and that's it. I want
to get this rolling. But to see Jack Smith actually
have to come back and pull the reins on Judge
chuck Kin himself, that really speaks to what a partisan political.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Hack Judge chuckk in is yes, and she's operating exactly
as we have been describing it for some time now,
or that the mentality.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Is obvious for all to see.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
This is a get Trump at any costs, as fast
as p possible operation. But explain to me the jack
Smith part of this. He's got to know more than
anyone that delay is the enemy right now? Unless unless
what why is he not ready for this? Because I
did not foresee this at all?

Speaker 9 (50:18):
Well, first of all, he's got a real mess on
his hands, Buck, not just with the immunity ruling by
the Supreme Court that established these three separate buckets of
immunity that he will have to balance in terms of
what his indictment says. He also has to deal with
the Fisher opinion. And that was the Supreme Court overturning
how the DOJ has had applied that fifteen twelve C

(50:41):
to two obstruction of an official preceding felony against three
hundred and fifty plus G sixers, including Trump. That count
represents two of the four counts in Jacksmith's indictment. Furthermore, Buck,
the Supreme Court said, not only can you not charge
for these protected conduct in office that we view as

(51:02):
immune from prosecution. You can't use anything as evidence in
any part of the court proceedings, including grand jury. Well,
we already know that he hauled in DOJ officials, something
that the Supreme Court said very clearly fell within the
power of the presidency and executive authority to push his

(51:24):
Department of Justice to investigate election fraud or even consider
replacing his acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen at the time.
So his whole indictment is tainted. So he's really got
a major problem on his hands now, a political angle here.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Buck.

Speaker 9 (51:43):
You may have noticed that January sixth has kind of
disappeared as the campaign message from the Democrats, haven't you.
It's kind of disappeared from the headlines. Even the j
six be it reporters aren't covering the DNC pipe bomb story.
The report that came out from the Inspector General that
said Kamala Harris is twenty feet from what the FBI
said was a viable lethal explosive device that has all

(52:08):
been completely ghosted. So it could be the jacksmith is
once again doing the dirty work of the Democrats and
the Biden regime. He does not they do not want
this back in the headlines, and so perhaps that's part
of it as well.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, it would seem like there would be a few
I mean, and I'm glad you laid those out, a
few different intersecting motivations here for the delay, because this
is I've got to assume Judge Chuckkin is like, what
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Man?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Like you know, this is supposed to be a one
two punch. I move it super fast. You just keep going,
you know. So, I'm sure she and to your point,
she may say, no, man, you've got to come back
here and move at my pace like I'm not letting
you screw this thing up to get Trump operation is,
you know, first and foremost. Maybe she'll see the politics
of this though, as you just laid out and back off.

(52:57):
We shall we shall see. I think that's an important
part of all this. And now I just want to
get your take if I could, Julie, on the hiding
of Kamala Harris. I did see I think you shared
at the Ras Mussin poll that has Trump back up
a bunch. To me, the media is expecting everybody to

(53:19):
just accept that they're running a candidate that they just picked,
that they switched the whole race to because they just
because they said so, and we're not allowed to know
what's going on with this person, like that's the whole game.

Speaker 9 (53:33):
It absolutely is. I mean, we saw this with Heiden
Biden in the basement in twenty twenty, but there they
were protecting, you know, this older man during COVID. So
the media still did not do its job at Buck
to watch the national news media now allow Kamala Harris
to get away with not just holding a press conference,
but absolutely no sit down interviews. And I think her

(53:56):
team said yesterday, oh, she might do something towards the
end of the month. This is so egregious and it
speaks to why the American people do not trust our
national news media anymore. To watch them be so compliant.
And that's putting it nicely, right, Buck to this strategy

(54:16):
to keep Kamala Harris a very unpopular vice president. She
didn't even make it to the Iowa caucuses when she
ran for president in twenty twenty. She's far left and
picked a radical, far left running mate. They are going
to because the media is on the side of the
Democrats and they will do whatever they can to make

(54:37):
sure that Donald Trump does not get into the White
House again. And it's really irresponsible because, as Donald Trump
said yesterday during his press conference, we are a very
dangerous point in our history our country. What's happening here,
what's happening abroad. This is not a time to put
in an empty suit like Kamala Harris, untested by the

(54:59):
media and expect her to be able to handle all
of these crises. It's really appalling to see the media
behave this way.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Julie, are you one thing We've been talking to, well,
Clay and I've been talking about a lot and certainly
guests that we've had on this week. Are you still
feeling confident in Trump's prospects here?

Speaker 9 (55:21):
I mean, I do. Look, we have some things going
for us this time around that we didn't in twenty twenty.
Obviously COVID, the followed of the BLM riots, the energizing
of the base because of that, crazy or not, but
we do have some titaned election integrity, true election integrity
laws in some of these states. We now see an

(55:43):
opening of the investigation reopening into Georgia's twenty twenty fraudulent election.
I think the big game changer, honestly is Elon Musk
an X. I mean, think of the suppression campaign between
big tech and the FBI and the Democratic Party in
twenty twenty. That's not going to happen. I think that's
a game changer for our side. But look, we have

(56:06):
to act like we're ten points down, and so does
Donald Trump, and so does jd Vance. Everyone on our
side and the Trump campaign we cannot believe that, you know,
these tight polls are going to stay that way. I
think he needs to be aggressive and smart, stay on message,
which I thought for the most part yesterday he did that,

(56:28):
and really more importantly push the news media shame them. However,
we possibly can into fourth and Kamal Harris to answer
questions that for interviews and take a press conference like
the normal presidential candidate.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Should you mentioned.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Elon Julian I'm a big Elon fan, more so for
Musk and SpaceX and anything else. I'm not a big
electric cars guy, but whatever, I think what Alon's doing
is incredible and I think it will play a big
role in this election. That X is no longer under
tow communist domination, that it's actually a free platform, certainly
the freest online speech platform of significance, that's out there.

(57:09):
Did you see this though, that he has also sued
a group of advertisers for antitrust violations, saying that they
have been trying to boycott advertising on X. I mean,
I as a conservative, I have wanted this for such
a long time. The ad cartel stuff that goes on,
the advertising cartel stuff where a lot of the sort

(57:31):
of fancy Madison Avenue ad agencies and the big digital
a lot of the big digital agencies just pretty explicitly
go against conservatives and target and boycott conservatives together. It
is anti competitive, it's actually against the law. I mean,
I'm so glad Elon is actually taking the fight to them.

Speaker 9 (57:51):
It is. He's such a breath of fresh air, and
you can tell that he really means that. He's very authentic.
He loves his country, he believes in free speech, and
he has the money and the power and influence to
take on bullies that quite frankly, our side has not had.
I mean, we had Donald Trump, and he did a
good job to the extent that he could. Until they've tried,

(58:11):
for the better part of a decade, every way that
they possibly could imagine to destroy him. But Elon Musk
is the richest man I think in the world. He's
very outspoken, he's not easily intimidated at all, and I
think he believes that he's doing right, not just for
himself and his business interests, but really for America. And
I think that truly makes him a patriot.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Go check out declassified on substack. Julie Kelly's work is there,
and follow her on x the platform we were just
talking about.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Julie. Always great to talk to you. Thanks for making
the time.

Speaker 9 (58:45):
Have a great weekend, Buck, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
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