August 10, 2024 • 35 mins
In this episode, Tudor, joined by Kyle Olson and Sara Broadwater, delves into the current political landscape. They focus on Joe Rogan's endorsement of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and its implications for conservative voters. The discussion highlights concerns about RFK Jr.'s policies and the potential unintended consequences of protest votes, drawing historical parallels to Ross Perot's impact in 1992. Additionally, they critique Kamala Harris's recent actions in Michigan, questioning her political strategies and the broader Democratic Party's approach. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast this Saturday edition. And
I'm already laughing because this is the second time we've
started recording, because everybody in this room is ornery. I
have Kyle Olsen with me and Sarah Broadwater, and we
just wanted to kind of give an update on the
week because news is just coming at us so quickly,
and we had this press conference and we have Harris
in Michigan saying one thing and then talking to another
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group and saying another. But first off, I want to
start with Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan like causes little
firestorm among conservatives when he came out and said he's
voting for RFK, and people have been very angry about it,
and there are some people making fun of that, saying
that they shouldn't be angry.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
But I find it. I find it interesting because.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I just think, like, no one's actually voting for RFK.
If you're voting for our FK, you're voting for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
In my opinion, I.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Feel like it's the new protest vote for I guess independence.
I don't know. You can vote for whoever you want.
I really don't care. But like at the end of
the day, you can't come out here and say really
mad when Democrat and progressive policies come through because you
didn't vote for the guy. Like, if you want to
have Republican conservative policies, Donald Trump at this point is
the only option. If you vote for RFK Junior, you're
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just voting for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
At this point, We'll go back to nineteen ninety two
when there was a protest vote for Ross Perot and
it was a lot of conservative people because he was,
you know, fiscally conservative. I don't know if he was
considered libertarian. I don't know, but fiscally conservative people voted
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for Ross Perot instead of George W. Buch or George H. W.
Bush and Bill Clinton was elected.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
But can we just say, like, honestly, though, this guy
has been sort of Joe Rogan has sort of been
lifted up as this like speaker of truth, and you know,
people like tune in they're like, this was so profound,
and I'm like, you're voting for someone who we literally
just found out aged a bear assassination at Central Park, Like.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
This is bizarre. I was bizarre. The more that comes
out about I didn't even.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Watch your video yesterday that you sent about the bugs
or one of you sent me a video of him with.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Bugs all over him. RFK is a weirdo.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, I feel like he just more and more he
thinks keep coming out, and I know he's doing it
to get ahead of a news cycle, but I'm like,
what more could there possibly be on this guy? And
also remember Joe Rogan, if I'm remembering correctly, is he
goes and smokes weed on his podcast the whole time.
So it's a bunch of guys that are like high
or drunk talking about policy in the world. And I
just think, is this the guy that we're taking advice
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from now?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I can't. I know, he's.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Become like a top podcaster, I get it. I think
there's a lane for that. Obviously he's become very successful,
but there is.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So this is interesting to see how it goes now
because I think the lane has always been conservatives that
kind of flocked to him. It was the ivermectin moment
where people are like, oh my gosh, he's actually saying
what the mainstream media won't and he's, you know, this
inde guy, And I think that is where conservatives always
have to be aware that when you are romanced and
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seduced by someone who is on the left or leftist
center who starts to come over for some of your ideas,
you just have to know that they're not necessarily exactly
like you. And then it's fine. He has a successful podcast.
That's great, and you know, if people want to continue listening.
But he also has to understand that his rise to
fame in his podcast grew on the backs of conservatives
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who went to him and said, thank goodness, we have
a voice who is an independent and he's not shy
and he can do.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Whatever he wants. Obviously, it's just a branding thing.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's like a decision you make to come out and say,
I am not going to vote for the person who
will protect you from ibermectin and all these things. I'm
going to vote for somebody else. It's a decision you make,
but it could hurt your brand and maybe he doesn't
care well.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And it goes back to I think we talk about
Democrats fall in line no matter what Republicans were independent thinkers.
I mean, I love that about us, but the Democrats
are all going to vote for Kamala Harris and Republicans
and independents get these wild hairs and think we're going
to just vote for RFK instead. But it's not going
to work. And this is where Republicans have to learn
that you have to be disciplined. You may not love
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everything about Donald Trump, but you also probably don't love
everything about RFK Junior if you knew about him.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I would love to have a Republican voter or a
conservative explain to me why RFK would be a good president.
His conservatives what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's like this whole idea that he's going to protect
you from big pharma.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's a wine issue.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Okay, they don't need.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The rest, and that they don't know the rest.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well, that's not a good reason to vote for somebody.
I mean the whole read that we constantly lament single
issue voters. Well if yeah, and I will say, you
know what he said about Anthony Fauci and vaccines and
all of that was great, And it comes down to
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the mandate. To me, it should be the question should
be if somebody wants to take a vaccine, that should
be their choice. But that should be their choice and
the government should not be mandating it. And so I
think generally speaking, what RF Case has said about that
has been good. Beyond that, what good has he said?
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I mean, he's rapidly pro abortion, no limits abortion, he
is not for the Second Amendment. There's just so many
reasons Conservatives or Republicans should not vote for that guy,
and so, and I don't know what well. I think
Joe Rogan is libertarian more than anything, and I just
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just is baffling to me. And so to me, anyone
who votes for someone other than any conservative or Republican
that votes for someone other than Donald Trump is supporting
Kamala Harris. It's not any more complicated than that.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I think that that's why people are freaking out. I
think there's a few things. I think that the.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
People are seeing this massive swallow of attention for Kamala
Harris from the mainstream media, and so.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They're afraid of that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
There is this great love for Joe Rogan, and I
think that he has been a unique voice, and I
understand that there's a huge attraction to him. And I
think because of that, people on the conservative side are like,
oh crap, if he comes out and says this.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
People will do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He and that's why people say things like this. I mean,
let's face it, it's not because he felt like people had
to know how he was voting. It's an endorsement, and endorsements.
People make endorsements and they come out and talk about
things to get other people to follow them. And he
has a huge following. You know, he has a gigantic
following on his podcast, and so that's why you see
people panicking.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But I think that that's what so people.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Are trying to analyze the conservatives right now, analyze Trump,
analyze what's going on with Kamala getting this groundswa attention,
and Trump has kind of stepped out of the spotlight
for a few days, and they're like, oh my gosh,
Trump's not there. Well, I do think that there's a
lot to be said for having JD. Vance go out
and troll Kamala at every stop and give him a
chance to talk about who he really is. When you
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have this radical walls pick and you have to contrast
the two. And then Donald Trump comes out and does
this press conference. For a very specific reason, no one
is going to tell the truth about Kamala Harris on
the mainstream media MSNBC, CNN, They're not going to tell
the truth. He's the only one that can get the attention.
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I do think that there could have been some more
succinct points, and I think there are people behind the
scenes that are responsible for that that didn't take the
lead there, and this was a huge opportunity for them
to really hammer her on what she's done. I think
he's doing that in the best way he can, and
he's the only one who can.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I think the campaign has to look at everything as
a made for camera, made for TV moment at this point,
to go viral on social media, to look good on
the national TV cameras, whatever it is. And I think
I know people are complaining that, they say Trump's not
out there campaigning enough all those things. I mean, what
do people want because before it was he's talking too much.
Now he's not talking enough, And so I just think,
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to your point, put jd Vance out there, let people
get to know him. He needs to be out there
a lot more right now than Trump does, and use
Trump choicefully like the press conference, so that you know
every network will take him they will actually listen to
everything he's saying. But yeah, to your point too, we
have to be very specific in the message that we
went out, we need to do a press conference. I
think people think, oh, we're just going to go out
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and do a press conference, put a bunch of people
in front of the cameras, this will be great. No, you
should have a purpose for everything you do, and Donald
Trump did have a purpose. I think we just need
to tighten up a little bit and really hammer the border,
national security, the economy.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And it's not like people don't know who Trump is,
right or his I mean I think a lot of
people don't know his record because that's not effectively communicated.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
The media obviously doesn't want people to know right.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So this idea that he's got to be out campaigning
twenty four hours a day, I just think is silly.
It's it's odd to me that the media is complaining that,
you know, he's not out campaigning, but yet Kamala Harris
won't talk to them, and Jadie Vance is making that
point that you know, he's he's accessible. Trump obviously was
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accessible with the with the press conference, and it was anybody,
you know, anybody could ask a question. Where again you
go back to the Biden press conferences and he literally
has a list and he apologizes if he doesn't follow
the list, and he, you know, is makes it very
clear that he has very clear instructions from his staff
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of how he should behave in those sorts of things.
So it's all it's all staged. But this idea that
you know, Trump needs to be out all the time,
I just feel like people know who he is, they
know what he's about. He's a unique candidate where he's
been president before. I would say probably ninety eight percent
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of voters have already formed an opinion about him, and
now it's sort of this referendum between him and Harris
and which way are they going to go?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And there needs to be some well trained surrogates out
there on the other side of media, because they have
people on our side. I see people on the conservative
media all the time that are just spewing her lies.
And yet it's not the same on CNN. We don't
have the truth, the truth being told. It's not the
same on MSNBC. I mean, my gosh. We talked to
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CNN once about coming on and they were like, let
me put you through a list of questions, and we
never got a call back, so obviously I didn't. I
didn't fulfill there. Whatever they want out of somebody who's
going to speak, which is that they're controlling the narrative.
They want to control the person. And I think that's
very key right now when you look at what is
happening with Kamala Harris. She got a few questions yesterday
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or last week, she got a few questions when she
was like on the tarmac, And it was funny because
if you're watching, she heard staff tries to stop her
from walking. It like they for they put their hands up,
and she put her hands up and says, it's okay,
I'm going she.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Mounts, I'm going to walk over to the media. It's
like they don't want her to. They are deathly afraid
of her talking.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think that was actually a show.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I don't think so. I think they really don't want her.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I think they don't want to talk to them. But
I think that she like purposely saw that moment and
was like, I'm going to make a deal about this
to say, like I run the.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Show, right. I agree, But they were going to stop her.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The point is they wanted to stop her and she
went over to the media. All they asked her about
was Trump. All they asked her about was Trump. They
finally had her. That's the problem. That's why Trump has
to go out and do a press conference. They finally
had her. They said, Trump said he's going to debate
you are you going to debate? Trump said this. Trump
just had a press conference. What do you have to
say about that? I wasn't watching this press conference. All
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it was about Trump, not you flip flopped on fracking,
Where do you stand on Israel? And like to that point,
she's speaking out of both sides of her mouth. She
was here in Michigan and you exposed something Kyle on
the Midwesterner that I encourage people to go look at
because she is behind the scenes meeting with people and
saying she's going to she's going to create the bring
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the ceasefire or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Here.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'll let you talk about it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
So when she was in Michigan there there was a
lot of attention on how she got heckled, and it
turned out it was a group of pro Hamas or
pro Gaza hecklers who were, you know, saying she, you know, Kamala,
you can't hide you know, you support genocide or whatever
it was, and which is sort of the thing that
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they do. Again, they were doing that against Biden as well.
But then the group that was doing the heckling exposed
the fact that they had met with her prior to
the rally and discussed with her the whole Gaza situation.
And it was the it was the the uncommitted voters
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who got all, you know, a lot of attention in
the primaries because they were, you know, voting uncommitted and
not for Biden.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
How did they get a meeting with the Vice President
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I'll tell you how. It's Rasheta to Leave's sister.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yes, the leader of the group is Rasheeta to Leab's sister.
And they're viewing this, this is a block of voters
that they need to have. And so what was significant
about the whole exchange was that she expressed openness. That
was the word that they used. She expressed openness about
an Israel arms embargo basically in exchange for their votes,
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in exchange for their support. So she now is trading
the security of Israel away for votes in Michigan. And
this was you know, people were making this i think,
sort of assert during the primaries with Biden, but it's
very transparent what's going on. They need that block of
votes in Michigan, and she will sell anyone out in
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order to get them.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. The Jewish people in this country
should understand that. I mean, there's a question back and
forth like why.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Didn't she pick Shapiro, And maybe Shapiro stepped out, but
let's face it, she knew she wasn't step and foot
in that room, in that room with that uncommitted vote,
and they are going to how is she going to
explain away her Jewish running mate. This is where we
are with the Democrat Party. They are openly capitulating to
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the demands of the anti Semites in this country. And
I'm not saying that everybody in Michigan who is voting
and committed is an anti Semite, but I'm saying there
are people who she is afraid of that have come
out as pro Hamas.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And she is willing to say.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I mean, she says she met with Benjamin and Yahoo.
She came out and she said to the people who
had taken our flags are flags down and burned them?
Not they're not broad American flags, taken flags down and
burned them and had painted graffiti all over DC. She said,
I just met with Benjamin nettan Yahoo, and I just
want you to know, to the protesters out there, I
see you and I hear you.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I guess that's supposed to me.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah, she's there. She's actively courting the the pro Hamas
wing of the Democratic Party because she's it's critical to
her success in Michigan. And so any Jewish voter out
there that is listening to this and you know, can't
make up their mind. They just they need to realize
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what her, what Harris's agenda is, and I think what
Tim Walls's agenda is. I mean, there was a there
was a clip that was circulating where when he he said,
you know, when he's having a bad day, he just
thinks about ilhan Omar in Congress and that makes him smile.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What Yeah, yeah, I know. And the point is not
that you can't.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
She couldn't have gone in there with a Josh Shapiro
and I think she knew it. And it's not the
fact that she is sitting down with people.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I think you should.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I think you should sit down with everybody. And I
appreciate that she sat down with him. I don't like
the fact that she has this openness to do what
she said with the embargo. I think that's a problem.
I think it's good to be able to come to
the table. I don't think she'll come to the table
for Jewish people. I don't think she can. She didn't
come to the table when Benjamin Netanya, who addressed Congress.
She is openly displaying that there is a group of
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people she will turn her back on, and she and
being open to this embargo of arms to Israel, is
turning her back on all of the American people because
that is our ally.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, and you know one of the other things that
she's so So she was in Michigan for about twenty
four hours and so so that so what we're just
talking about was at the rally, but then the next
day she went to the UAW with Tim Walls and
Sean Faine, the president of the UAW. And I think
it's interesting to see how the Democrats are attempting to
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adopt conservative or Republican language. And we saw this somewhat
in Michigan in twenty twenty two, when they're equating abortion
with fairness and excuse me, that fairness with freedom and
she's doing this now. And so this is her quote
from when she was talking about collective bargaining and with
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the UAW and she said, we just want fairness, We
want dignity for all people. We want to recognize the
pride all people have to freedom and liberty to make choices,
especially those that are about heart and home, and not
have the government telling them what to do. This is
a progressive candidate saying we believe in freedom and the
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government not telling people what to do. And so what
they have done is they have taken the abortion issue
and they have tried to turn that into this issue
of freedom. And of course the problem with that is
that it's the Biden Harris administration that is issuing regulations
on light bulbs, on toilets, on water usage, on electric vehicle.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, we all have to drive this car.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean it's they've gone into our manufacturers, these people
who are bringing back jobs. They've gone into our manufacturers
and say you will be shut down if you do
not manufacture the product we now insist our citizens are using.
It's unheard of and yet they but their language is
very flowery.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Is it plays? It plays?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
They're master messengers. I mean that is what Democrats excel at.
But at the same time, how can you say you're
for freedom when you have Tim Wallas who looks up
to communist rule China. I mean, that does not square
at all. So it's just and the media again lets
them get away with it. They can go out there
and say they're for freedom, but they're not going to
get a follow up question on that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He had a snitch line during COVID.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I mean, these are the times when I said earlier
on some other network, somebody asked me, I said, you know,
I don't like to go back to COVID all the time,
but in this case, you have to look at how
somebody managed in a crisis, and you look at Tim Walls.
He had a snitch line, He made everybody get locked up,
he'd refuse to let people go to school, all of
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the same things that we've seen in all the Democrat states,
and then he allowed people to riot and burn down
the city of Minneapolis. And I was watching just because
I think, if you were in this industry, you have
to kind of go back and look at the history
of these people. So I was watching some of the
NBC reports today on twenty twenty the riots back then,
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the guy is out there in this massive group of
people and he's like, there's no fire trucks. They've just
lit the or the police station on fire. There's no
way for fire trucks to even get there. There's no
police presence out here, there is no National Guard. This
was a total failure of leadership. This is the governor
she wants to be the vice president who in a
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crisis allows the city to burn for days on end,
for days on end, the city burned. And guess what,
when you watch, I encourage you go back and watch
this because when you go back and watch this, the
majority of these people they're not from Minneapolis, and they're
not from this area of Minneapolis. They're white punks. They
are a bunch of punks that are part of these
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groups that get bust in all. They're not part of
the minority community lives there.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
They're white people.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
They went in and burned down the businesses of minority
people who are trying desperately to get along. These are
their heart and soul. They poured all their money into it.
And this guy let the city burn. And his wife
goes on the news and says she opened the windows
to smell at Burnie.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I can't get over this sick.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's you said you don't like to constantly go back
to that. I think it's important to go back to
that because that really exposed these leaders' philosophies about freedom,
about how government should be used, how government shouldn't be used,
how much they trust people to make their own informed
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decisions about their own personal health, about community health, about
their neighbors, and so to have people like Tim Walls
or Gretchen Whitmer, or Andrew Cuomo or Phil Murphy in
New Jersey, whoever it is, to look at how they
reacted and how they used government to shut people down,
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to keep kids out of schools, to crush livelihoods, to.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Turn people against each other.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And to me, that is one of the most dangerous
positions that these governors took, is the snitch line is
one of the most dangerous things because I think it
goes to a mind's of you have to have government
control you. And they have created the group of independent thinkers.
They've divided the independent thinkers to those who are beholden
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to government, and they wanted to see that clearly, so
they create this line, Hey, if your neighbor is doing
something that is against the law, you have to tell
Now they know the people loyal to them too.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean it is really it's just like that.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
List of fundraising emails that came out from Gretchen Wimer.
She knew the loyal people based on her position as governor,
and she used that to raise money to run. These
are people who are they're taking note of who is
loyal to them and who will go along with the
comrade mentality. I will turn in the neighbor. I will
destroy the neighbor who goes against government.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It is literally the Dystopian novel nineteen eighty four. Yes,
they talk about the language, how you go after people
with that. They talk about censorship by writing on your neighbors.
You go into your homes, and you have cameras where
everybody knows what you're doing all the time. People report
on everyone. I mean seeing that come to life right now,
and I know people think, oh, put your tinfoil hat
back off, but like that is literally what we're watching.
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When you look at how big tech is interfered in
elections and just how when you look at certain stories
that get shared and certain stories that are seemingly just disappeared,
quickly taken off. How do you think that happens. There's
someone ultimately that's making that happen, and it's not the Republicans.
I mean, at the end of the day, it's not
the messages that we went out there. I mean, if
Republicans had control over that, we would be hearing more
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about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump. But that story's
gone away just as quickly as it came.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, they have.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Lists of the loyal people, and then they send these
what they consider newsletters. It's like under the guise of
we're informing you of what's happening in the state. But
it's very manipulative language. To me and people that you
knew that received these letters from Whitmer, it's very manipulative
language that they use to get support for them to
continue their mission of big government lockdowns, big government mandates.
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The mandates to me is the scariest. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, it's funny because there was someone I knew who
doesn't live in the state of Michigan who got a
fishing license, bought a fishing license, and you know, you
obviously have to turn over personal information in order to
get the fishing license, and then suddenly months just a
couple months before the election, these people who gave their
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information to the state government are getting all of these
newsletters from Gretchen Whitmer. But what's interesting is that the
newsletters aren't happening anymore. So it's almost like it was
just for the campaign.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Surprise.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
That's yeah, what a surprise. But I just think this,
what is this philosophy that is up for consideration by
voters is deeply disturbing and people really have to do
their own homework because clearly the media, the media is
completely fawning over Kamala She has never received a vote
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in any primary ever before in twenty twenty or in
twenty twenty four as the primary candidate. She never even
made it to voting in twenty twenty because her campaign
ran out of gas. Why because people didn't like her,
they didn't want her to be Now and.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Now she's being compared to Obama as this great order.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
She's just so impressive, So.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
The media and the talking heads will do anything and
say anything to prop her up. And then she picks
Tim Walls and we talked the other day about you know,
she clearly is not playing too moderate or independent voters
with a pick like him. Maybe they think they are,
and maybe they're getting those people in the short term,
but once his record is actually exposed about I mean
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China that we talked about and all of that guns
and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I mean, that's it. Like this.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The thing that frustrates me is they have these camo
hats and everything. They're playing the game and they're trying
to make it. And the NA is mad about the
camo hats because like this guy's ain't tight gun like this,
he's anti Second Amendment.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No way. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue
next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have to educate people.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I mean, the last thing I'll say is we talk
about crowd size, and you know they said this to
Trump yesterday, and you know, he gets defensive over Kamala
having these big crowd sizes, and I think they distract.
I think the media tries to distract Republicans with crowd
size because they're trying to get Republicans to do more
rallies and spend less.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Time on the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You know, if you're if you're spending time organizing a rally,
you're not spending time organizing that message to individual people.
And this is what I'll say. This is not pull
vaulting people. Size does not matter.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
That was nice, that that was a good, good joke.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
But we learned this during the campaign. Size of rallies
does not matter because no matter even if you have five, ten,
twenty thousand people, you need way more votes in that state,
no matter where you are, you need way more votes
than what is going to come to a rally. And
the people that come to a rally are the hardcore people. Anyway,
you got their vote, You've got their vote.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
There's not that many people that are curious that are
going to rally to learn you've got their vote. That
doesn't matter. And the whole scheme of things. Joe Biden,
he had no rallies. They somehow now I mean obviously
people say there are other things happening, but they have
an organization on the ground. We need to focus on
the organization on the ground and the ads, I mean,
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the messaging that and the message can't get stuck on.
I see some stupid things out there that I see.
Even this, I will argue the tampon tim argument. I
just don't think it's as impactful to people, as the economy,
as the border, as your Second Amendment rights. I think
you have to focus on what is really the message
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that people want to hear right now.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I think Democrats know that Republicans are very sensitive in
the instance of the crowd sized thing, so they use that.
They use that to get them riled up. Same thing.
They want Republicans to talk tampon tim they want them
to go on the cultural warpath. But the rally aspect
of this is I mean, Kamala at this point is
now mimicking Trump's rallies, but it's all a show because
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she doesn't have to go on TV. Then she can
say she's out there, and I will say, like her
advanced team, she must have Obama's advanced team working for
her or someone because every angle that she had at
those last few rallies was picture perfect. Will they be
able to keep that up the whole time? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
The apparently Parking notture picture perfect.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
We've been to get out of the rally, not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
But that's actually a great example of the fact that
they never get hit on anything. Because getting out of
what was it Detroit or is somewhere in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, it was through.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Outside of Detroit rally.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
It was like people were stranded for hours. They couldn't
get back to their cars, the buses weren't running, there
were semis confusing the whole situation.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
No word, no, not even a peep.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But that shows you, It solves to show they only
cared when the cameras thanks run.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yes, they didn't care about the people that were there.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
At all, not at all. They were the props for
them to be used in that. But they wanted to
demoralize Republicans because now Republicans are on social media, they're
looking at the news, they're seeing these beautiful images of
Commonlanary fall for it, and they want Republicans to feel
totally demoralized about the situation.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, size doesn't matter, do not fall for it?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah yeah, and they Yes, there's a lot of obsession
in comparing the crowd sizes between the two campaigns and
all of that. And you know, you go back to
two thousand and eight and twenty twelve, Obama had huge rallies,
rallies that you know, I think the last couple generations
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have never seen. So they were very shocking, and you know,
and he won but there was a lot of I
think dispute. I saw one estimate was there was fifteen
thousand people at the It was at Detroit Metro Airport,
and I looked at the pictures and I remember in
two thousand and four, George W. Bush came to this town,
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Muskegan and had the exact same sort of setup where
it was in a hangar and the plane pulled up
and it was this great, you know, image and everything.
So I dispute that there were fifteen thousand people, but regardless,
it doesn't matter. What matters is that, yes, that people
are organized. I will say, it's amazing to see how,
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you know, a month ago the Democrats were maybe six
weeks whatever it's been, the Democrats were I mean suicidal
about Joe Biden. And not just Democrats, the media was
openly suicidal about Joe Biden. And then you had you know,
Trump supporters who were basically, you know, measuring the drapes
(30:52):
for the Oval office again and how quickly things can change.
And clearly the media is not going to question, well,
what is really going on with Joe Biden, not his
health and all of that, but how did all of
this happen? Why has no one asked him, what's your
reaction to all of this going on? Because I saw
a tweet the other day that he was in there.
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He was questioning, you know, it's like he's having second
thoughts about doing this. I don't know if that's true
or not, but he's basically does he even exist anymore?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
The media is totally have the rangers come to the
White House and he was just bizarre.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
He's so that is what I think Kamalin needs to
be held accountable for. She knew she and.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
She knows now here we are with a captainist ship.
I mean, it's just disastrous. And that's the other thing
that makes me mad. How can the media not be saying, okay,
but we still have no one at the home, Like literally,
we are a country with no leader and we are
in danger. It's just outrageous. But here we are. And
I think Kyle, you make a great point that there
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are eons in a presidential elect There are EANs, and
it's like it's a crazy situation where it's there's no
time at all, and yet there's there's just eons of
time and it depends on how you use it, and
anything can happen. I mean, my gosh, they could put
Trump in jail next month.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I mean, think of it as a sporting game. Honestly,
I don't like to say that politics is a game,
but to some people it is. And that's just a
campaign life. I mean, I don't like to say that,
but gosh, you can come from behind at the final end.
I mean, you just don't know. And I wouldn't even
say that Trump would be coming from behind. I feel
like we're just watching like a nail bider of a
game right now.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, and there is still.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
So much time to pull ahead and to pull this
thing out.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Right so right, so right now, as it stands, right now,
my understanding is Trump wants to have three debates. She's
agreed to one September tenth. My prediction is that regardless
of how she does, the media and obviously the Democrats
will declare that she's won. Yeah, so that will probably
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be the only debate and she will win it again
according to them. So there will be one debate, and
then the sentencing is September twenty fourth, is that right?
So then you'll have that, and so there will be
or maybe the eighteenth, I can't remember, and so there
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will be two. There's two major things coming up that
I think will have the potential to totally turn everything
upside down.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah. I mean, and I love the fact that they.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Haven't been talking about protecting democracy lately, because they literally
ripped the candidate away from the voters and said, no, no,
you have to have someone new now that you know
nothing about and that you will not ever find anything
out about, and that you didn't like the first time
she was out there. It's just fascinating to me to
see how that's happened and how they've just accepted it.
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I mean, even my friends that are Democrats like, oh, Kamala,
she's amazing. I'm like, really, what do you know about her?
She is nothing. She is she's actually a horrible choice
for the country. But they know nothing about her. It
doesn't matter, so they can't pull the protect democracy card anymore.
And it will be very, very hard to do that
when they know they're sentencing someone and everybody is going
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to sit there and watch them prosecute and potentially jail
or put an ankle bracelet on their political opponent. And
you never know how that'll go, You never know how
that will turn people. But we'll continue to watch and
we will continue to bring it to you here, and
we'll continue to give you our analysis. And you know,
we're talking to people every day too, so I think,
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you know, we hope that we're able to bring you
some of the insights that maybe you're not hearing from everybody,
because we are trying to be as tuned in as
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Speaker 2 (34:58):
Have a great weekend.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast this Saturday edition. And
I'm already laughing because this is the second time we've
started recording, because everybody in this room is ornery. I
have Kyle Olsen with me and Sarah Broadwater, and we
just wanted to kind of give an update on the
week because news is just coming at us so quickly,
and we had this press conference and we have Harris
in Michigan saying one thing and then talking to another
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group and saying another. But first off, I want to
start with Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan like causes little
firestorm among conservatives when he came out and said he's
voting for RFK, and people have been very angry about it,
and there are some people making fun of that, saying
that they shouldn't be angry.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
But I find it. I find it interesting because.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I just think, like, no one's actually voting for RFK.
If you're voting for our FK, you're voting for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
In my opinion, I.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Feel like it's the new protest vote for I guess independence.
I don't know. You can vote for whoever you want.
I really don't care. But like at the end of
the day, you can't come out here and say really
mad when Democrat and progressive policies come through because you
didn't vote for the guy. Like, if you want to
have Republican conservative policies, Donald Trump at this point is
the only option. If you vote for RFK Junior, you're
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just voting for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
At this point, We'll go back to nineteen ninety two
when there was a protest vote for Ross Perot and
it was a lot of conservative people because he was,
you know, fiscally conservative. I don't know if he was
considered libertarian. I don't know, but fiscally conservative people voted
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for Ross Perot instead of George W. Buch or George H. W.
Bush and Bill Clinton was elected.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
But can we just say, like, honestly, though, this guy
has been sort of Joe Rogan has sort of been
lifted up as this like speaker of truth, and you know,
people like tune in they're like, this was so profound,
and I'm like, you're voting for someone who we literally
just found out aged a bear assassination at Central Park, Like.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
This is bizarre. I was bizarre. The more that comes
out about I didn't even.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Watch your video yesterday that you sent about the bugs
or one of you sent me a video of him with.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Bugs all over him. RFK is a weirdo.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, I feel like he just more and more he
thinks keep coming out, and I know he's doing it
to get ahead of a news cycle, but I'm like,
what more could there possibly be on this guy? And
also remember Joe Rogan, if I'm remembering correctly, is he
goes and smokes weed on his podcast the whole time.
So it's a bunch of guys that are like high
or drunk talking about policy in the world. And I
just think, is this the guy that we're taking advice
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from now?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I can't. I know, he's.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Become like a top podcaster, I get it. I think
there's a lane for that. Obviously he's become very successful,
but there is.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So this is interesting to see how it goes now
because I think the lane has always been conservatives that
kind of flocked to him. It was the ivermectin moment
where people are like, oh my gosh, he's actually saying
what the mainstream media won't and he's, you know, this
inde guy, And I think that is where conservatives always
have to be aware that when you are romanced and
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seduced by someone who is on the left or leftist
center who starts to come over for some of your ideas,
you just have to know that they're not necessarily exactly
like you. And then it's fine. He has a successful podcast.
That's great, and you know, if people want to continue listening.
But he also has to understand that his rise to
fame in his podcast grew on the backs of conservatives
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who went to him and said, thank goodness, we have
a voice who is an independent and he's not shy
and he can do.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Whatever he wants. Obviously, it's just a branding thing.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's like a decision you make to come out and say,
I am not going to vote for the person who
will protect you from ibermectin and all these things. I'm
going to vote for somebody else. It's a decision you make,
but it could hurt your brand and maybe he doesn't
care well.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And it goes back to I think we talk about
Democrats fall in line no matter what Republicans were independent thinkers.
I mean, I love that about us, but the Democrats
are all going to vote for Kamala Harris and Republicans
and independents get these wild hairs and think we're going
to just vote for RFK instead. But it's not going
to work. And this is where Republicans have to learn
that you have to be disciplined. You may not love
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everything about Donald Trump, but you also probably don't love
everything about RFK Junior if you knew about him.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I would love to have a Republican voter or a
conservative explain to me why RFK would be a good president.
His conservatives what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's like this whole idea that he's going to protect
you from big pharma.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's a wine issue.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Okay, they don't need.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The rest, and that they don't know the rest.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well, that's not a good reason to vote for somebody.
I mean the whole read that we constantly lament single
issue voters. Well if yeah, and I will say, you
know what he said about Anthony Fauci and vaccines and
all of that was great, And it comes down to
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the mandate. To me, it should be the question should
be if somebody wants to take a vaccine, that should
be their choice. But that should be their choice and
the government should not be mandating it. And so I
think generally speaking, what RF Case has said about that
has been good. Beyond that, what good has he said?
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I mean, he's rapidly pro abortion, no limits abortion, he
is not for the Second Amendment. There's just so many
reasons Conservatives or Republicans should not vote for that guy,
and so, and I don't know what well. I think
Joe Rogan is libertarian more than anything, and I just
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just is baffling to me. And so to me, anyone
who votes for someone other than any conservative or Republican
that votes for someone other than Donald Trump is supporting
Kamala Harris. It's not any more complicated than that.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I think that that's why people are freaking out. I
think there's a few things. I think that the.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
People are seeing this massive swallow of attention for Kamala
Harris from the mainstream media, and so.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They're afraid of that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
There is this great love for Joe Rogan, and I
think that he has been a unique voice, and I
understand that there's a huge attraction to him. And I
think because of that, people on the conservative side are like,
oh crap, if he comes out and says this.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
People will do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He and that's why people say things like this. I mean,
let's face it, it's not because he felt like people had
to know how he was voting. It's an endorsement, and endorsements.
People make endorsements and they come out and talk about
things to get other people to follow them. And he
has a huge following. You know, he has a gigantic
following on his podcast, and so that's why you see
people panicking.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But I think that that's what so people.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Are trying to analyze the conservatives right now, analyze Trump,
analyze what's going on with Kamala getting this groundswa attention,
and Trump has kind of stepped out of the spotlight
for a few days, and they're like, oh my gosh,
Trump's not there. Well, I do think that there's a
lot to be said for having JD. Vance go out
and troll Kamala at every stop and give him a
chance to talk about who he really is. When you
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have this radical walls pick and you have to contrast
the two. And then Donald Trump comes out and does
this press conference. For a very specific reason, no one
is going to tell the truth about Kamala Harris on
the mainstream media MSNBC, CNN, They're not going to tell
the truth. He's the only one that can get the attention.
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I do think that there could have been some more
succinct points, and I think there are people behind the
scenes that are responsible for that that didn't take the
lead there, and this was a huge opportunity for them
to really hammer her on what she's done. I think
he's doing that in the best way he can, and
he's the only one who can.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I think the campaign has to look at everything as
a made for camera, made for TV moment at this point,
to go viral on social media, to look good on
the national TV cameras, whatever it is. And I think
I know people are complaining that, they say Trump's not
out there campaigning enough all those things. I mean, what
do people want because before it was he's talking too much.
Now he's not talking enough, And so I just think,
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to your point, put jd Vance out there, let people
get to know him. He needs to be out there
a lot more right now than Trump does, and use
Trump choicefully like the press conference, so that you know
every network will take him they will actually listen to
everything he's saying. But yeah, to your point too, we
have to be very specific in the message that we
went out, we need to do a press conference. I
think people think, oh, we're just going to go out
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and do a press conference, put a bunch of people
in front of the cameras, this will be great. No, you
should have a purpose for everything you do, and Donald
Trump did have a purpose. I think we just need
to tighten up a little bit and really hammer the border,
national security, the economy.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And it's not like people don't know who Trump is,
right or his I mean I think a lot of
people don't know his record because that's not effectively communicated.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
The media obviously doesn't want people to know right.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So this idea that he's got to be out campaigning
twenty four hours a day, I just think is silly.
It's it's odd to me that the media is complaining that,
you know, he's not out campaigning, but yet Kamala Harris
won't talk to them, and Jadie Vance is making that
point that you know, he's he's accessible. Trump obviously was
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accessible with the with the press conference, and it was anybody,
you know, anybody could ask a question. Where again you
go back to the Biden press conferences and he literally
has a list and he apologizes if he doesn't follow
the list, and he, you know, is makes it very
clear that he has very clear instructions from his staff
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of how he should behave in those sorts of things.
So it's all it's all staged. But this idea that
you know, Trump needs to be out all the time,
I just feel like people know who he is, they
know what he's about. He's a unique candidate where he's
been president before. I would say probably ninety eight percent
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of voters have already formed an opinion about him, and
now it's sort of this referendum between him and Harris
and which way are they going to go?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And there needs to be some well trained surrogates out
there on the other side of media, because they have
people on our side. I see people on the conservative
media all the time that are just spewing her lies.
And yet it's not the same on CNN. We don't
have the truth, the truth being told. It's not the
same on MSNBC. I mean, my gosh. We talked to
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CNN once about coming on and they were like, let
me put you through a list of questions, and we
never got a call back, so obviously I didn't. I
didn't fulfill there. Whatever they want out of somebody who's
going to speak, which is that they're controlling the narrative.
They want to control the person. And I think that's
very key right now when you look at what is
happening with Kamala Harris. She got a few questions yesterday
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or last week, she got a few questions when she
was like on the tarmac, And it was funny because
if you're watching, she heard staff tries to stop her
from walking. It like they for they put their hands up,
and she put her hands up and says, it's okay,
I'm going she.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Mounts, I'm going to walk over to the media. It's
like they don't want her to. They are deathly afraid
of her talking.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think that was actually a show.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I don't think so. I think they really don't want her.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I think they don't want to talk to them. But
I think that she like purposely saw that moment and
was like, I'm going to make a deal about this
to say, like I run the.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Show, right. I agree, But they were going to stop her.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The point is they wanted to stop her and she
went over to the media. All they asked her about
was Trump. All they asked her about was Trump. They
finally had her. That's the problem. That's why Trump has
to go out and do a press conference. They finally
had her. They said, Trump said he's going to debate
you are you going to debate? Trump said this. Trump
just had a press conference. What do you have to
say about that? I wasn't watching this press conference. All
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it was about Trump, not you flip flopped on fracking,
Where do you stand on Israel? And like to that point,
she's speaking out of both sides of her mouth. She
was here in Michigan and you exposed something Kyle on
the Midwesterner that I encourage people to go look at
because she is behind the scenes meeting with people and
saying she's going to she's going to create the bring
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the ceasefire or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Here.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'll let you talk about it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
So when she was in Michigan there there was a
lot of attention on how she got heckled, and it
turned out it was a group of pro Hamas or
pro Gaza hecklers who were, you know, saying she, you know, Kamala,
you can't hide you know, you support genocide or whatever
it was, and which is sort of the thing that
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they do. Again, they were doing that against Biden as well.
But then the group that was doing the heckling exposed
the fact that they had met with her prior to
the rally and discussed with her the whole Gaza situation.
And it was the it was the the uncommitted voters
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who got all, you know, a lot of attention in
the primaries because they were, you know, voting uncommitted and
not for Biden.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
How did they get a meeting with the Vice President
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I'll tell you how. It's Rasheta to Leave's sister.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yes, the leader of the group is Rasheeta to Leab's sister.
And they're viewing this, this is a block of voters
that they need to have. And so what was significant
about the whole exchange was that she expressed openness. That
was the word that they used. She expressed openness about
an Israel arms embargo basically in exchange for their votes,
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in exchange for their support. So she now is trading
the security of Israel away for votes in Michigan. And
this was you know, people were making this i think,
sort of assert during the primaries with Biden, but it's
very transparent what's going on. They need that block of
votes in Michigan, and she will sell anyone out in
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order to get them.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. The Jewish people in this country
should understand that. I mean, there's a question back and
forth like why.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Didn't she pick Shapiro, And maybe Shapiro stepped out, but
let's face it, she knew she wasn't step and foot
in that room, in that room with that uncommitted vote,
and they are going to how is she going to
explain away her Jewish running mate. This is where we
are with the Democrat Party. They are openly capitulating to
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the demands of the anti Semites in this country. And
I'm not saying that everybody in Michigan who is voting
and committed is an anti Semite, but I'm saying there
are people who she is afraid of that have come
out as pro Hamas.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And she is willing to say.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I mean, she says she met with Benjamin and Yahoo.
She came out and she said to the people who
had taken our flags are flags down and burned them?
Not they're not broad American flags, taken flags down and
burned them and had painted graffiti all over DC. She said,
I just met with Benjamin nettan Yahoo, and I just
want you to know, to the protesters out there, I
see you and I hear you.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I guess that's supposed to me.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah, she's there. She's actively courting the the pro Hamas
wing of the Democratic Party because she's it's critical to
her success in Michigan. And so any Jewish voter out
there that is listening to this and you know, can't
make up their mind. They just they need to realize
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what her, what Harris's agenda is, and I think what
Tim Walls's agenda is. I mean, there was a there
was a clip that was circulating where when he he said,
you know, when he's having a bad day, he just
thinks about ilhan Omar in Congress and that makes him smile.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What Yeah, yeah, I know. And the point is not
that you can't.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
She couldn't have gone in there with a Josh Shapiro
and I think she knew it. And it's not the
fact that she is sitting down with people.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I think you should.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I think you should sit down with everybody. And I
appreciate that she sat down with him. I don't like
the fact that she has this openness to do what
she said with the embargo. I think that's a problem.
I think it's good to be able to come to
the table. I don't think she'll come to the table
for Jewish people. I don't think she can. She didn't
come to the table when Benjamin Netanya, who addressed Congress.
She is openly displaying that there is a group of
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people she will turn her back on, and she and
being open to this embargo of arms to Israel, is
turning her back on all of the American people because
that is our ally.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, and you know one of the other things that
she's so So she was in Michigan for about twenty
four hours and so so that so what we're just
talking about was at the rally, but then the next
day she went to the UAW with Tim Walls and
Sean Faine, the president of the UAW. And I think
it's interesting to see how the Democrats are attempting to
(17:16):
adopt conservative or Republican language. And we saw this somewhat
in Michigan in twenty twenty two, when they're equating abortion
with fairness and excuse me, that fairness with freedom and
she's doing this now. And so this is her quote
from when she was talking about collective bargaining and with
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the UAW and she said, we just want fairness, We
want dignity for all people. We want to recognize the
pride all people have to freedom and liberty to make choices,
especially those that are about heart and home, and not
have the government telling them what to do. This is
a progressive candidate saying we believe in freedom and the
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government not telling people what to do. And so what
they have done is they have taken the abortion issue
and they have tried to turn that into this issue
of freedom. And of course the problem with that is
that it's the Biden Harris administration that is issuing regulations
on light bulbs, on toilets, on water usage, on electric vehicle.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, we all have to drive this car.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean it's they've gone into our manufacturers, these people
who are bringing back jobs. They've gone into our manufacturers
and say you will be shut down if you do
not manufacture the product we now insist our citizens are using.
It's unheard of and yet they but their language is
very flowery.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Is it plays? It plays?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
They're master messengers. I mean that is what Democrats excel at.
But at the same time, how can you say you're
for freedom when you have Tim Wallas who looks up
to communist rule China. I mean, that does not square
at all. So it's just and the media again lets
them get away with it. They can go out there
and say they're for freedom, but they're not going to
get a follow up question on that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He had a snitch line during COVID.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I mean, these are the times when I said earlier
on some other network, somebody asked me, I said, you know,
I don't like to go back to COVID all the time,
but in this case, you have to look at how
somebody managed in a crisis, and you look at Tim Walls.
He had a snitch line, He made everybody get locked up,
he'd refuse to let people go to school, all of
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the same things that we've seen in all the Democrat states,
and then he allowed people to riot and burn down
the city of Minneapolis. And I was watching just because
I think, if you were in this industry, you have
to kind of go back and look at the history
of these people. So I was watching some of the
NBC reports today on twenty twenty the riots back then,
(19:54):
the guy is out there in this massive group of
people and he's like, there's no fire trucks. They've just
lit the or the police station on fire. There's no
way for fire trucks to even get there. There's no
police presence out here, there is no National Guard. This
was a total failure of leadership. This is the governor
she wants to be the vice president who in a
(20:15):
crisis allows the city to burn for days on end,
for days on end, the city burned. And guess what,
when you watch, I encourage you go back and watch
this because when you go back and watch this, the
majority of these people they're not from Minneapolis, and they're
not from this area of Minneapolis. They're white punks. They
are a bunch of punks that are part of these
(20:36):
groups that get bust in all. They're not part of
the minority community lives there.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
They're white people.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
They went in and burned down the businesses of minority
people who are trying desperately to get along. These are
their heart and soul. They poured all their money into it.
And this guy let the city burn. And his wife
goes on the news and says she opened the windows
to smell at Burnie.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I can't get over this sick.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's you said you don't like to constantly go back
to that. I think it's important to go back to
that because that really exposed these leaders' philosophies about freedom,
about how government should be used, how government shouldn't be used,
how much they trust people to make their own informed
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decisions about their own personal health, about community health, about
their neighbors, and so to have people like Tim Walls
or Gretchen Whitmer, or Andrew Cuomo or Phil Murphy in
New Jersey, whoever it is, to look at how they
reacted and how they used government to shut people down,
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to keep kids out of schools, to crush livelihoods, to.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Turn people against each other.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And to me, that is one of the most dangerous
positions that these governors took, is the snitch line is
one of the most dangerous things because I think it
goes to a mind's of you have to have government
control you. And they have created the group of independent thinkers.
They've divided the independent thinkers to those who are beholden
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to government, and they wanted to see that clearly, so
they create this line, Hey, if your neighbor is doing
something that is against the law, you have to tell
Now they know the people loyal to them too.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean it is really it's just like that.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
List of fundraising emails that came out from Gretchen Wimer.
She knew the loyal people based on her position as governor,
and she used that to raise money to run. These
are people who are they're taking note of who is
loyal to them and who will go along with the
comrade mentality. I will turn in the neighbor. I will
destroy the neighbor who goes against government.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It is literally the Dystopian novel nineteen eighty four. Yes,
they talk about the language, how you go after people
with that. They talk about censorship by writing on your neighbors.
You go into your homes, and you have cameras where
everybody knows what you're doing all the time. People report
on everyone. I mean seeing that come to life right now,
and I know people think, oh, put your tinfoil hat
back off, but like that is literally what we're watching.
(23:05):
When you look at how big tech is interfered in
elections and just how when you look at certain stories
that get shared and certain stories that are seemingly just disappeared,
quickly taken off. How do you think that happens. There's
someone ultimately that's making that happen, and it's not the Republicans.
I mean, at the end of the day, it's not
the messages that we went out there. I mean, if
Republicans had control over that, we would be hearing more
(23:27):
about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump. But that story's
gone away just as quickly as it came.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, they have.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Lists of the loyal people, and then they send these
what they consider newsletters. It's like under the guise of
we're informing you of what's happening in the state. But
it's very manipulative language. To me and people that you
knew that received these letters from Whitmer, it's very manipulative
language that they use to get support for them to
continue their mission of big government lockdowns, big government mandates.
(23:58):
The mandates to me is the scariest. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, it's funny because there was someone I knew who
doesn't live in the state of Michigan who got a
fishing license, bought a fishing license, and you know, you
obviously have to turn over personal information in order to
get the fishing license, and then suddenly months just a
couple months before the election, these people who gave their
(24:22):
information to the state government are getting all of these
newsletters from Gretchen Whitmer. But what's interesting is that the
newsletters aren't happening anymore. So it's almost like it was
just for the campaign.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Surprise.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
That's yeah, what a surprise. But I just think this,
what is this philosophy that is up for consideration by
voters is deeply disturbing and people really have to do
their own homework because clearly the media, the media is
completely fawning over Kamala She has never received a vote
(25:01):
in any primary ever before in twenty twenty or in
twenty twenty four as the primary candidate. She never even
made it to voting in twenty twenty because her campaign
ran out of gas. Why because people didn't like her,
they didn't want her to be Now and.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Now she's being compared to Obama as this great order.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
She's just so impressive, So.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
The media and the talking heads will do anything and
say anything to prop her up. And then she picks
Tim Walls and we talked the other day about you know,
she clearly is not playing too moderate or independent voters
with a pick like him. Maybe they think they are,
and maybe they're getting those people in the short term,
but once his record is actually exposed about I mean
(25:48):
China that we talked about and all of that guns
and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I mean, that's it. Like this.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The thing that frustrates me is they have these camo
hats and everything. They're playing the game and they're trying
to make it. And the NA is mad about the
camo hats because like this guy's ain't tight gun like this,
he's anti Second Amendment.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No way. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue
next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have to educate people.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I mean, the last thing I'll say is we talk
about crowd size, and you know they said this to
Trump yesterday, and you know, he gets defensive over Kamala
having these big crowd sizes, and I think they distract.
I think the media tries to distract Republicans with crowd
size because they're trying to get Republicans to do more
rallies and spend less.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Time on the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You know, if you're if you're spending time organizing a rally,
you're not spending time organizing that message to individual people.
And this is what I'll say. This is not pull
vaulting people. Size does not matter.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
That was nice, that that was a good, good joke.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
But we learned this during the campaign. Size of rallies
does not matter because no matter even if you have five, ten,
twenty thousand people, you need way more votes in that state,
no matter where you are, you need way more votes
than what is going to come to a rally. And
the people that come to a rally are the hardcore people. Anyway,
you got their vote, You've got their vote.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
There's not that many people that are curious that are
going to rally to learn you've got their vote. That
doesn't matter. And the whole scheme of things. Joe Biden,
he had no rallies. They somehow now I mean obviously
people say there are other things happening, but they have
an organization on the ground. We need to focus on
the organization on the ground and the ads, I mean,
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the messaging that and the message can't get stuck on.
I see some stupid things out there that I see.
Even this, I will argue the tampon tim argument. I
just don't think it's as impactful to people, as the economy,
as the border, as your Second Amendment rights. I think
you have to focus on what is really the message
(27:56):
that people want to hear right now.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I think Democrats know that Republicans are very sensitive in
the instance of the crowd sized thing, so they use that.
They use that to get them riled up. Same thing.
They want Republicans to talk tampon tim they want them
to go on the cultural warpath. But the rally aspect
of this is I mean, Kamala at this point is
now mimicking Trump's rallies, but it's all a show because
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she doesn't have to go on TV. Then she can
say she's out there, and I will say, like her
advanced team, she must have Obama's advanced team working for
her or someone because every angle that she had at
those last few rallies was picture perfect. Will they be
able to keep that up the whole time? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
The apparently Parking notture picture perfect.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
We've been to get out of the rally, not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
But that's actually a great example of the fact that
they never get hit on anything. Because getting out of
what was it Detroit or is somewhere in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, it was through.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Outside of Detroit rally.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
It was like people were stranded for hours. They couldn't
get back to their cars, the buses weren't running, there
were semis confusing the whole situation.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
No word, no, not even a peep.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But that shows you, It solves to show they only
cared when the cameras thanks run.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yes, they didn't care about the people that were there.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
At all, not at all. They were the props for
them to be used in that. But they wanted to
demoralize Republicans because now Republicans are on social media, they're
looking at the news, they're seeing these beautiful images of
Commonlanary fall for it, and they want Republicans to feel
totally demoralized about the situation.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, size doesn't matter, do not fall for it?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah yeah, and they Yes, there's a lot of obsession
in comparing the crowd sizes between the two campaigns and
all of that. And you know, you go back to
two thousand and eight and twenty twelve, Obama had huge rallies,
rallies that you know, I think the last couple generations
(29:41):
have never seen. So they were very shocking, and you know,
and he won but there was a lot of I
think dispute. I saw one estimate was there was fifteen
thousand people at the It was at Detroit Metro Airport,
and I looked at the pictures and I remember in
two thousand and four, George W. Bush came to this town,
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Muskegan and had the exact same sort of setup where
it was in a hangar and the plane pulled up
and it was this great, you know, image and everything.
So I dispute that there were fifteen thousand people, but regardless,
it doesn't matter. What matters is that, yes, that people
are organized. I will say, it's amazing to see how,
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you know, a month ago the Democrats were maybe six
weeks whatever it's been, the Democrats were I mean suicidal
about Joe Biden. And not just Democrats, the media was
openly suicidal about Joe Biden. And then you had you know,
Trump supporters who were basically, you know, measuring the drapes
(30:52):
for the Oval office again and how quickly things can change.
And clearly the media is not going to question, well,
what is really going on with Joe Biden, not his
health and all of that, but how did all of
this happen? Why has no one asked him, what's your
reaction to all of this going on? Because I saw
a tweet the other day that he was in there.
(31:13):
He was questioning, you know, it's like he's having second
thoughts about doing this. I don't know if that's true
or not, but he's basically does he even exist anymore?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
The media is totally have the rangers come to the
White House and he was just bizarre.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
He's so that is what I think Kamalin needs to
be held accountable for. She knew she and.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
She knows now here we are with a captainist ship.
I mean, it's just disastrous. And that's the other thing
that makes me mad. How can the media not be saying, okay,
but we still have no one at the home, Like literally,
we are a country with no leader and we are
in danger. It's just outrageous. But here we are. And
I think Kyle, you make a great point that there
(31:58):
are eons in a presidential elect There are EANs, and
it's like it's a crazy situation where it's there's no
time at all, and yet there's there's just eons of
time and it depends on how you use it, and
anything can happen. I mean, my gosh, they could put
Trump in jail next month.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I mean, think of it as a sporting game. Honestly,
I don't like to say that politics is a game,
but to some people it is. And that's just a
campaign life. I mean, I don't like to say that,
but gosh, you can come from behind at the final end.
I mean, you just don't know. And I wouldn't even
say that Trump would be coming from behind. I feel
like we're just watching like a nail bider of a
game right now.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, and there is still.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
So much time to pull ahead and to pull this
thing out.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Right so right, so right now, as it stands, right now,
my understanding is Trump wants to have three debates. She's
agreed to one September tenth. My prediction is that regardless
of how she does, the media and obviously the Democrats
will declare that she's won. Yeah, so that will probably
(32:55):
be the only debate and she will win it again
according to them. So there will be one debate, and
then the sentencing is September twenty fourth, is that right?
So then you'll have that, and so there will be
or maybe the eighteenth, I can't remember, and so there
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will be two. There's two major things coming up that
I think will have the potential to totally turn everything
upside down.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah. I mean, and I love the fact that they.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Haven't been talking about protecting democracy lately, because they literally
ripped the candidate away from the voters and said, no, no,
you have to have someone new now that you know
nothing about and that you will not ever find anything
out about, and that you didn't like the first time
she was out there. It's just fascinating to me to
see how that's happened and how they've just accepted it.
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I mean, even my friends that are Democrats like, oh, Kamala,
she's amazing. I'm like, really, what do you know about her?
She is nothing. She is she's actually a horrible choice
for the country. But they know nothing about her. It
doesn't matter, so they can't pull the protect democracy card anymore.
And it will be very, very hard to do that
when they know they're sentencing someone and everybody is going
(34:10):
to sit there and watch them prosecute and potentially jail
or put an ankle bracelet on their political opponent. And
you never know how that'll go, You never know how
that will turn people. But we'll continue to watch and
we will continue to bring it to you here, and
we'll continue to give you our analysis. And you know,
we're talking to people every day too, so I think,
(34:31):
you know, we hope that we're able to bring you
some of the insights that maybe you're not hearing from everybody,
because we are trying to be as tuned in as
possible for you. So we appreciate you tuning in here
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