September 6, 2024 • 36 mins
Nate Silver has good news for MAGA nation in his polling analysis. Kamala didn’t earn the nomination; she was gifted it. Russia, Russia, Russia. George Clooney took out Biden and no price paid. New York City’s mayor, Eric Adams, is dirty and in legal jeopardy. “The Czar of Talk,” Houston’s Michael Berry, joins the Premiere Network family. Besides telling C&B how honored he is, Berry also says the border is a national issue, fears Harris has such low expectations that she’ll exceed them. All pressure on Trump?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back in final hour of the week Clay Travis
Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with
us as we are rolling through the weekend, getting you
ready for the week end. Some good news. I know
we referenced this a little bit earlier in the show, Buck,
but I want to just kind of hammer this. Axios
(00:23):
comes out with a list of nine different subjects that
Kamala Harris has changed her story on and the Kamala
Harris campaign doesn't have good answers. We played Dana Bash
on Fox News going after the Kamala Harris campaign a bit.
We got a couple more clips that I want to
play here to start off the third hour. But last
(00:47):
week Nate Silver came on, and Nate Silver is a
politics basically guru when it comes to analyzing probabilities, and
when he came on and Kamala was still a small
favorite in his forecast, which takes into account all these
different polls everywhere. But I actually think this is an
(01:10):
interesting dynamic of what's happened in the last.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Couple of weeks. Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Kamala Harris on August twenty third opened up a seven
point lead probability wise in Nate Silver's forecast that wasn't
very long ago August twenty third. We're now sitting here
on September sixth, and Nate Silver now has Trump with
a sixty one and a half percent chance to win
the election, Kamala Harris with a thirty eight percent chance,
(01:38):
and he has Trump as favorites in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona,
North Carolina, Georgia, and Nevada. That is every single swing
state that is being contested to a large degree by
both parties, including huge favorites in North Carolina, Georgia, and Arizona. Now,
(02:00):
all of you still need to go out and vote,
but I give you credit, buck because even in the
midst of the sugar high, you were saying, hey, it's
a sugar high, and we still have sixty days to go.
But next week many of you are going to start
to be able to vote. So whatever the political process is,
we have a rolling election now, we don't have just
(02:23):
election Day, and so whatever happens in September or October,
a lot of you are going to already have your
vote banked.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
In addition to that forecast and the betting markets now
having Trump favored in substantially in North Carolina, in Georgia,
in Arizona, and opening up a big lead in Pennsylvania
in the betting markets. I also in and Nevada. I
also am getting closer in Michigan and Wisconsin. Again, this
(02:57):
is where you can go and bet on who you
think is going to win the state. There have been
three good legal rulings for Trump that have basically happened
while we've been on the air so far today. First
of all, you have the sentencing for those of you
who have not heard yet, the sentencing in the Trump
hush money the document's case, the thirty four felonies has
(03:22):
now been pushed from September eighteenth to November twenty sixth,
so that is now going to happen several weeks after
the election. And RFK Junior, who has dropped out of
the race and endorsed Trump, was on in three battleground states, Michigan,
North Carolina, and Wisconsin. Today, courts in both Michigan and
(03:43):
North Carolina have ordered RFK Junior's name to be removed
from the ballot. All three of those are big legal
victories for Trump. As we get ready for what is
probably going to be the biggest event of the first
half of September four shore, which is the debate between
Kamala Harris and Trump on September tenth, and so Buck,
(04:04):
as we roll into the weekend, there is a lot
of really good momentum for Trump being stacked up, not
to mention that he had a press conference today, that
he got the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police,
that he is continuing to be out on the campaign
trail doing events everywhere, and Kamala Harris is basically in
(04:25):
hiding as she prepares for this September tenth debate that
all of us are going to be watching. So I
am very optimistic as we get ready for the official
sprint run of the presidential election next week when many
of you start being able to vote. I also want
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to play for you a couple of clips that I
referenced in the last hour. One is this is Mark
Cuban getting bodied by the CNBC hosts when he's questioned
about Kamala Harris's economic policies. Called into CNBC, this is
a very finance oriented audience, as you can well imagine
listen to this cut.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Let me just say I appreciate your calling in telling
us what you're hearing on these fronts. That's great, But
as you've said yourself, you can't speak for the vice president.
These are things they're telling you. Who knows what they're
telling other people. My guess is they're telling anybody who's
donating to them exactly what they want to hear at
this point, what they say publicly, what they stick to.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
No, absolutely, positively not right.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Let me just why do you think that they're telling
you the truth and not telling other people other things. Well,
if they won't say it publicly, say it publicly, tell
all of us so that we can.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Hold you to it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I get it, but you've got to get the details right.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
You can't change But we have.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Sixty days to an election, Like you're asking people to.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Get the day before the election right, even if it's
the day.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Before, Okay, bodied by CNBC Mark Cuban, I just I mean,
that's really good questioning. I wish we had more media
who were pushing back like that. I think that was
Julia Borstein on CNBC, just letting Mark Cuban have it
for essentially doing what I think is she's accurate about
telling people what they're telling Cuban because they want to
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hear it when she won't even come out and tell
us what her actual policies are. She's allowing other people
to run for president on her behalf is really what's
going on. This is a collectivist effort, you could say,
to win the presidency.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
And it's an embarrassment. It's really an embarrassment for the country.
You know, I understand that for Democrats like Donald Trump,
it's the worst thing ever.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, he was president and it actually went very well
as far as.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
The things that you can gauge a presidency by. We
did have the lunacy of the COVID and all that,
but you know, that was like an asteroid hitting the
earth in some ways. Just sometimes stuff happens. But Trump
did a very good job. He's not Hitler all these
things they say. He's not the end of democracy. It's
stupid when they say these things. Kamala Harris winning the
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presidency to me means we're not a serious country, and
I'd have to really do a rethink about what the
future looks like for this nation because it's so obvious
that she is a phony and there's no authenticity and
there's no leadership and there's no vision. She is effectively
an appendage of the Democrat machinery. She is just there
(07:21):
to be the figurehead. They did pull this off with Biden.
But to your point, Clay, from earlier in the show,
Biden's brand was more conducive and built over forty years
of bs that he was a guy who you know,
was just like assault of the earth. You can trust
to me know, its a hard day's work. I mean,
all this sloganeering nonsense, right, and some one of the
(07:42):
funniest things I actually have here.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I have.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
A book that I was using for research for my book,
actually Iconography of Power Soviet political posters under Lenin and Stalin.
And what's so funny is you have all these I mean,
it's like tragic funny, but it goes through it has
all these posters in it.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's a really interesting book.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
And they have these people who are you know, now
sort of despots, but the Central Committee, the high level
Soviet these are all intellectuals effectively, right, or at least
fancy themselves as intellectuals. But all the iconography and all
the is about the is about the hammer and sickle
and the peasant farmer. These people who don't know anything
(08:28):
about peasant farmers. None of them were peasant farmers. The
whole thing was a fraud. The whole thing was a
put on, right, and then it transitioned when they went
through the industrialization under Stalin into oh, the steel worker,
like the worker at the mill. It's just like with Biden.
Joe Biden has no idea what it is to be
a plumber or an electrician or a contractor or. But
(08:50):
you know he's always rolled up shirt. Hey, I'm blue
collar Joe, right.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That worked.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Kamala Harris's thing is I'm the diversity educator at your
third tier public use university. I don't think that's going
to play that well with the voters who were still
up for winning over no doubt. And that's starting to
resonate in Michigan, in Pennsylvania and in Wisconsin, the so
called blue wall, which is praying in a massive way.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And I wanted to play this for you.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You mentioned someone who is not connected at all with
the general public, maybe a Hollywood megastar like George Clooney
who's doing a film debut in Venice. I do want
to play this audio because I just thought it was
the height of bs. George Clooney, working with Barack Obama,
writes an editorial in The New York Times demanding that
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Joe Biden stepped down. And remember he actually called for
a mini primary because I think the real story that's
going to come out soon is nobody actually wanted Kamala
to be the nominee because they were aware that she
would end up losing. I can't wait to read the
book after the election is done. But listen to George
Clooney when he's asked about the impact of that editorial
(10:01):
and Joe Biden's stepping down, and also listen to the
media cheering in Europe. This is Venice at the film
festival this week.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
The person who should be applauded is the president who
did the most selfless thing that everybody's done since George Washington.
And that's true, and so anybody. All the machinations that
got us there, none of that's going to be remembered,
and it shouldn't be. What should be remembered is the
selfless act of someone who you know, it's very hard
(10:33):
to let go of power.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Joe Biden gets knifed in the back. What really we
should remember is not the knifing in the back, and
the fact that we forced him not to be president
of the United States anymore. It's how selfless his relinquishment
of power is, even for George Clooney and even by
the standards of Hollywood hypocrisy, that is an incredible sound bite.
(10:56):
And Notebuck, those people clapping were not random people that
happened to be in the vicinity of George Clooney. That
was all the media there to cover him celebrating his
destruction of Joe Biden's political career.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I just that clip is pretty remarkable that he would argue,
we told you on this show that would happen. That
they would say, as soon as Joe Biden stepped down, Hey,
he is the modern day George Washington. That was inevitable.
But to be able to say that with a straight
face after what George Clooney, in conjunction with Barack Obama
did to Joe Biden's political future and career. Remember Buck,
(11:36):
the New York Times wrote multiple editorials demanding that Joe
Biden stepped down. But somehow the party is so controlled
by left wing Hollywood elite that it took George Clooney
writing and editorial for the pressure to really go to
a different level. And I also think the Obamas and
a few others were the end of it for Joe.
(11:59):
And I still very strongly that our initial analysis of
how could they push him out just about inducements for
the Biden family really just allowing the grift to continue
long after Joe is out of office, and that was
enough eventually for them. You know you're gonna see they
will be treated the Bidens will be treated well going
(12:20):
forward because of a decision that Joe made. I bring
that up just because it's the exact opposite of what George.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Clooney is saying, which is like.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
Oh, Biden did the least selfish thing ever this it's
the least selfish thing. The way if someone holds a
gun to my head and says give me your wallet,
and I give them my wallet, that's not a selfless act.
That's a I don't want what's coming unless I do
what you tell me act. Yeah, And they told Biden,
you step down or we will punish your family. Going forward,
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they will not be welcome in the corridors of power,
and they won't be getting, you know, the money from
the Netflix consulting gigs, on the speaking and the book
and the chancellorships and all these other things that the
left will throw at you. So it's just funny. It's
it's like I say, anti truth. Biden was pure selfishness
in stepping down.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Actually, do you.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Think doctor Jill Biden wants Kamala to lose?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yes? I do, absolutely, absolutely not gonna say it publicly.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I think Joe might recognize his legacy as somewhat tied
to Kamala. I think doctor Jill hates Kamala and actually
secretly wants her to lose.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
If I were.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Doctor Jill, and I know that would require many years
of study to get my important doctorate, which is not
even really a doctorate, but put that aside, I would
actually want Kamala to lose as well. You know, I'm
I'm loyalty to your family is a central character trait
as far as I am concerned. And they did Biden dirty. Yeah,
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they did him dirty, and I totally I would not
you know, So oh yeah, I think I think that's right.
We'll take some call. Also, we've got a friend Michael
Barry Zarov talk joining here. Dive into this with him
in just a few minutes. But switching gears here for
something really important, the International Fellowships with Christians and Jews
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and the work that they're doing, because as you know,
Israelis are waking up every day now with more and
more threats growing all around them because of this ongoing
war with Hamas. They've got Hesbala on their perimeter, they've
got the Iranian terrorist entity just not that far away,
and there's so much going on that requires the allies
(14:37):
of Israel to step in now and do what is
necessary to support them. And that's where the International Fellowship
of Christians and Jews comes in.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The IFCJ.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
They've been helping Israeli citizens for as long as for
more than forty years, rather with things like food and
medicine and water for bomb shelters, because within hours of
attacks by Hamas soldiers, for example, or rather with hours
of attacks of terrorists, people like the IFCJ rally and
they do everything they can on the front lines support
(15:08):
Israel through the International Fellowship.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Of Christians and Jews. Go to SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That
support IFCJ dot org.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do
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Speaker 7 (15:35):
We didn't mention this at all before. Don't have much
time for it. I just want to know how crazy
the news cycle is that we all live in now
and where the sort of goalposts are for what gets attention?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's the news story. It's out there. People know it.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
You know that Mayor Eric Adams has had a number
of his top this is the mayor of New York City,
largest city in America.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
There were FBI raids this week on a.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Number of his top officials, top you know, mayoral t advisors,
the NYPD commissioner I believe, has had his house rated.
And this has to this has to do with some
I don't even know really that much of what the
nexus is here. It's funny because we're all like Russia, Russia, Russia.
(16:21):
That was such a big story for a day. But
it has to do with they think the allegation is
Turkish money being illegally funneled into the New York City
mayoral race. I mean Turkish like from Turkey, what like?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
What is going on? In the world.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I asked to Buddy this the other day because of
all the stories about politicians being arrested. It's happened a
lot in LA and New York. Recently, Kathy Hokl's former
chief of staff arrested for Chinese money. It makes me
wonder how common certainly we've seen, with with what happened
with the the Senate or from New Jersey who got convicted,
(17:03):
how much bribery is actually going on, Because probably we're
not catching a huge percentage of the bribery of politicians
that's going on, but it dirt certainly seems like it's
far more prevalent than I would have thought.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Seizing the electronics and the cell phone of the Police
Commissioner of New York the large I used to work
in the NYPD, the largest police force in America. This
is like an this is a you know, a page
three New York Times kind of story. This is not
something that has gotten all that much attention because of
what's going on. This is crazy. This is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, and again it impacts Kathy Hokel.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I was reading there's a huge story in LA about
everybody getting bribed here. I do think it's one party
rule makes a bribery more likely because you're not worried
about getting caught by the other.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Side as much as it might be if you.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Actually had true opposition.
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you listening in Houston, massive audience down there, and he's.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Got some great news.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You guys know, I know many of you start off
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Speaker 4 (19:48):
Thank you, Clay Well. It's a huge honor obviously to
get to join with you guys, because most people know
we happen to be friends off the air as well.
It's an incredible honor. Syndicator. It's the folks that brought
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(20:29):
Craig Kitchen, all the folks that have provided these shows
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Speaker 7 (20:37):
Well, congratulations to the TSARREV talk ritually deserved and we
also appreciate you being a phenomenal lead in after a
dominating the airwave so many years in Houston. So thank
you for that, Michael, because we've been we've been able
to reach so many Houstonians as a result of of
what a great station you got down there. I want
to ask you about where you.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Think we're surprised and you came to Houston and the
welcome you got from and y'all hadn't been on that long,
the welcome you got when we did our event, and
that was just a just that we were limited to capacity.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But you guys are amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
And I know you look at your ratings, but Eddie
Martinez will tell you guys are killing it here.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, thank you, sir.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Yah know, we were like, hey, who wants to come
hang out with us? And Michael and Jesse Kelly And
they're like fifteen hundred people showed up to a barbecue.
We're like, Okay, I think Houston is home territory. This
is great, but let's let's let's get into where we're
all going here, mister Barry. Which is an election that,
like every election is important and I know, but to me,
(21:37):
if we lose this one, it's too depressed to even contemplate.
I do believe Donald Trump is going to win. Let's
focus in on the upcoming debate. Do you think it matters?
And how do you expect it to go?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It scares me that the expectations are that Donald Trump
gives the most soaring speech in all of history, and
that Kamala Harris stumbles, falls on the ground, and you
know spew's venom because you know, expectations game is what
put George W. Bush ahead in every debate because everyone
thought he would he would screw it up, and all
he had to do was was have a pulse and
(22:12):
he would have you know, he exceeded expectations. It's like
the stock market report. She has such low expectations that
I see her possibly exceeding those, and it's too much
pressure for Trump. He did so well against Biden, and
of course they're going to be skewed against him, which
is why, of course Kamala didn't do the interview with
Trump a few days ago. But look, when it comes
(22:35):
down to policy, Trump knows it inside and out and
she doesn't. And I think people people are well aware
of that. I like the direction Trump is going. He's
talking about the forgotten man. He's talking about issues that
matter outside of traditional political circles and outside of partisan folks.
He's talking about the inflation, he's talking about crime. He's
(22:56):
talking about boys playing in girls sports and breaking their noses.
And and that's where tampon Tim's weirdness comes out. I
see Trump getting back to the twenty sixteen that identified
with the low information voter, the a political voter, the
RFK coming in helps. I think the Trump campaign is
doing well, and yes, I'm worried about the debate because
(23:17):
of the expectations game.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Michael, what don you tell us about the Cruise campaign
in Texas? Because as much attention as we can give
to the presidential situation, and certainly it matters a great deal,
Republicans are really poised to take back control of the
Senate too. Ted Cruz got a race, been under the
radar a little bit. You think he's in good spot
there in general because other than Ted Cruz and Rick
(23:42):
Scott in Florida, and I don't think those guys are
super targets. But that's really the only hope that Democrats
would have is that they could flip one of those seats.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Clay, I'm so glad you asked that because I think
across the country, too many folks are going to vote
for Trump and walk out, and you've got to vote
all down the ballot. I think Ted Cruse is slightly
ahead at this point, and that's not a sign of
him not being popular. That's a sign of a lot
of Californians having moved to Texas, and a lot of
Californians in New York are spending a lot of money
(24:12):
on the Democrat challenger to Ted Cruz. They did this
six years ago, they did it twelve years ago. But
Ted Cruz represents Texas in the United States Senate very
very well. And that matters to people whether you live
in Houston, Dallas, sent Anton Austin, or out in West
Texas as a rancher or farmer. He represents our values
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and that's important. That gets lost in the mix of
all this. You know, he goes into those Senate meetings,
those judiciary hearings, he goes into meetings with over the budget,
he goes into meetings over bad policy, and he absolutely
nails people to the wall. And that makes Texans proud
that he's a Texan. So I think he pulls it out.
But it's a very very tough race here.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
I was also thinking about, as Michael, you're a guy
who doesn't doesn't like like a lot of people throw
a nonsense around. You see through it very quickly. Kamala
Harris is now apparently in favor of the Wall. I mean,
I guess the wall wouldn't be that far from you
with Texas, right, it would just be down there on
the border. What are we to make of this when
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she's stealing Trump ideas just so that she can fool people,
I guess how does this work?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
But the amazing thing is I still think that illegal
immigration and the border is the number one issue in
Texas because we bear the brunt of this problem, as
do people in Arizona to a lesser extent. But I'll
tell you it's now a nationwide problem, especially since our
governor very wisely started busting illegals, and just a few
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of our illegals landing in Denver and Chicago and New
York and they go running. You remember what happened to
Marcus Vineyard. They had to take down there. They're welcome
to this. They don't want these people there because it's
really bad for them. I think that it tells you
that they're polling numbers reveal that illegal immigration is hurting
her and hurting her badly. And so if she has
(26:06):
to go back on everything she said before.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
She'll do it.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
And that is a very telling fact. The American public.
Three quarters of the American public wants illegal immigration stopped
in about seventy percent of them want I'm deported, Michael.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I'm curious how much you hear this.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You mentioned it, the number of people that are moving
to Texas from blue states. This will be one of
the first cycles. I know you had twenty twenty two,
but the midterms aren't necessarily driving the same level of turnout.
What do you think that's going to look like from
Texas and are you feeling like some are moving because
they're read voters or is there kind of a consistent
(26:44):
concern in Texas that these What I hear a lot
is that basically these people are locusts.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
They destroy where they were, for instance, California, and then
they go somewhere new and bring the same policies that
they destroyed the state they left behind to the new place.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I think that's a very astute point that a lot
of people are not picking up on. You know, the
Californians that went to Oregon, they made Oregon more liberal
and ruined part of it. The Californians that have gone
to Colorado very liberal and more fruits and nuts. The
people that are coming to Texas. The numbers guys show
me numbers that say believe it or not, the people
(27:22):
who come here are red already and making us more red.
And I think you've seen that in Florida, Buck, I
think you've seen it in Tennessee Clay because it's people
that are going there that want to be around like
minded people, and so they're fleeing the Californians and seeking
a refuge as opposed to being people that were blue
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that came for a job. And my numbers show that
we become more red as a result of it.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
I mean, Michael, the numbers in Florida, which I'm pretty
familiar with, speak directly to what you're saying, which is
it used to be a two hundred and fifty thousand
right before Ron DeSantis was sworn in and fifty foulsand
Democrat registration advantage in the state. I think it's now
a Republican advantage of plus a million, which is amazing
when you think about it. Huge shift. So yeah, I
(28:11):
love that is the Santus. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's
there's it's been an amazing uh phenomenon here. But you've
got to keep Texas red or else the whole country fall.
So just get to work on that, Okay.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Well, and you got to keep Ted Cruz in the
Senate because Ted Cruz is a guy much like a
Rand Paul. There's a couple of guys in politics that
no one can replace them in the importance of how
they can get news into the cycle and how they
can move the news cycle and the political cycle forward.
And Cruise plays a key role in that.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Absolutely well.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Congrats again to our friend Michael Barry, the czar of
Talk on his national syndication by Premiere Networks. And we
got to come down to Houston and hang out soon. Michael,
thanks for being with us.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I would love that you guys have been very kind
to me and and along with our good friend Jesse Kelly,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Guys right back at you. Thank you. Congrats that all
of you.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
I gotta say, I don't think for a minute that
Clay is the only one who is on the Prize
Picks app. Okay, I'm learning a trick or two. I've
been up in my game a bit. I got, you know,
the tennis stuff going on here. Now it's football season,
so I've downloaded the Prize Picks app and Clay and
I might have to start having some friendly wages with
the two of us, you know who's gonna hit more
prize picks parlays.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I even know what a parlay is. Now, that's right.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
If I lose to you, then I'm really struggling season.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I mean, I'm just gonna say this. You've been doing
pretty well in you know, tennis. If I lose football
to you, I might have to retire. Challenge accepted. All right,
We're gonna have to do some football Betty here. But look,
you get the idea right, Prize picks. It's so much fun.
It's so easy. Even I can do it. And all
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I rolled with Clay on his projection for the football
(29:53):
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Speaker 5 (30:41):
Follow six a little comedy to counter the craziness. So
the Sunday Hang a weekend podcast to lighten things up
a bit. Find it in the Clay and Buck podcast
feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
We are closing up shop here on Clay and Bucks,
sending you off into the the weekend. I wish it
was a holiday weekend, but to the weekend everybody's been
working for. And Tuesday we've got the debate coming up,
which which will be fun. I it's funny people ask
me like, do you want to go to a debate
watch party? I get invites to debate watch parties and
(31:18):
I always have to find a polite way of saying no,
because what I don't want is to hear other people
debating the debaters around me, which there's always somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Who's like, well, I would say bla blah, butity blah.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
It's like, I actually want to hear what the vice
president and the former president have to say. So I
tend to watch in solitude with some sort of delicious
food in front of me. What about you, Clay, What's
what's the what's the Clay debate? Watch pathway?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I am definitely watching by myself. Now, my sixteen year
old son has gotten interested in watching of late. My
wife will be walking through. There's always chaos when you
got kids. Now, this debate in central time will be
eight o'clock nine o'clock Eastern, but the kids will be
(32:07):
running around, There'll be chaos. I'll be sitting with a
notepad because like a nerd, I have a yellow legal
pad and I just jot down as it's going on.
Oh this is what I thought of. This is, you know,
kind of what I thought was key issues. I'll also,
I don't know if you'll do it, but I'll jump
in a little bit on social media and I'll tweet
some thoughts, but I try not to read what anybody
(32:30):
else says until after the debate because I don't want
to end up colored by what the consensus is. I
want to watch and try to make my own decision
as opposed to allowing myself to go down into the
wormhole that is social media during the debates.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Yeah, I'll probably do a little live tweeting on x
and maybe a little truthing truth social is that what
they call it?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Truth thing as well?
Speaker 7 (32:54):
So, oh, and just a preview of next week, our
friend I think Cash Btow will be with us talk
about russa Ruck Russia stuff. We'll get some Trump people on.
I think we're gonna have Lisa Booth on next week
as well to talk about Yeah, Monday, Oh, on Monday,
there we go to talk about the debate. So we'll
roll out some of our all stars, get Carol mark
Witz in the mix here soon, talk about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
So looking forward to it.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
But you know, Clay, there's a part of me that
is also my real feeling with all this is, you know,
let's go like I've with this has been building for
a long time, and it's like the final act of
the movie that you're you want to see it, but
you're like, it's time. This has been in a lot.
This has been a long build up to get to
this moment. And I think it'll be a particularly interesting
(33:42):
election cycle.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I really do.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
I mean, last one was pretty crazy, but this one
could be any if you just think about what's happened.
We're sitting here on September sixth, if you just think
about what's happened since June twenty seventh. For people out
there who say, I mean, that's a little bit over
two months, right, that we've had since June twenty seventh,
Biden effectively gets knocked out. Someone tries to kill Trump.
On July thirteenth, July twenty first, Biden drops out. Kamala
(34:09):
now has been in the race for about six weeks
and hasn't really talked to anybody, And I think this
may be the last and only face to face aspect
of being able to consider both Kamala and Trump that
we will see. And it's just ninety minutes with a
couple of commercial breaks rolled in. My general expectation is
(34:29):
that Kamala. You heard Michael Berry say that the expectations
for George W.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Bush were always low.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I think most people expect Kamala to be pretty good
in this debate. In fact, if you look at the
gambling market, she's favored to win. Now, partly that's because
inevitably every Democrat they finished the race, and then they
put up a poll from CNN and MSNBC and it
shows that they won.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
That's how bad Biden was that. The CNN was like, yeah,
Trump won this debate. But if Trump just keeps it
between the lines and stays fairly committed to making his arguments,
I think it will be the last best chance for
Kamala to change the narrative. And I think after this
debate it will pivot to what does Kamala actually believe
(35:09):
as a couple of week storyline, and then many of
you are going to be out there voting. We had
Marshall Blackburn on yesterday. She said, in my state, I'm
eligible to vote on October sixteenth. I'm going to go
in and vote on October sixteenth, and go ahead and
get my ballot cast. Many of you can vote earlier
than that, and we encourage you to go do it
and allow other people who are less likely voters to
(35:31):
be contacted and focused on particularly in battleground states where
it may come down to a few thousand votes and so.
And you still believe right that that Kamala is leaving
open the possibility of more debates depending on how this
debate goes, right. I think if she has a strong performance,
she's done. She's like, I've done it, I'm done. I
(35:53):
think if she has a particularly weak performance, and I
think you see the same way right, then she might
just need another shot.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I think they'll wait and see what the numbers look
like internally right after they do the debate on September tenth,
and if they feel like they did well enough, they'll
hide her. If they feel like they're in trouble, they'll
start begging and demanding that there be another debate. And
I think Trump could be in a position where he
has to decide, Hey, do I want to do another
debate or I feel like I've done enough. I think
(36:20):
the more people see of Kamala, the less they like her.
I think they know Trump. I think the more of
Kamala the better, is my general consensus. But I'm not
sure that she'll debate more than this. Going to be
a fun weekend, going to be a fun, crazy ride
over the next sixty days, Buck, I cannot wait to
get to November fifth and have the ballots officially underway.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
They'll have a great weekend, everybody enjoy what In most
parts of the country. I think there'll be some really
good weather. Rest up, because next week we are back
into the breach growing down for America.
Welcome back in final hour of the week Clay Travis
Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with
us as we are rolling through the weekend, getting you
ready for the week end. Some good news. I know
we referenced this a little bit earlier in the show, Buck,
but I want to just kind of hammer this. Axios
(00:23):
comes out with a list of nine different subjects that
Kamala Harris has changed her story on and the Kamala
Harris campaign doesn't have good answers. We played Dana Bash
on Fox News going after the Kamala Harris campaign a bit.
We got a couple more clips that I want to
play here to start off the third hour. But last
(00:47):
week Nate Silver came on, and Nate Silver is a
politics basically guru when it comes to analyzing probabilities, and
when he came on and Kamala was still a small
favorite in his forecast, which takes into account all these
different polls everywhere. But I actually think this is an
(01:10):
interesting dynamic of what's happened in the last.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Couple of weeks. Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Kamala Harris on August twenty third opened up a seven
point lead probability wise in Nate Silver's forecast that wasn't
very long ago August twenty third. We're now sitting here
on September sixth, and Nate Silver now has Trump with
a sixty one and a half percent chance to win
the election, Kamala Harris with a thirty eight percent chance,
(01:38):
and he has Trump as favorites in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona,
North Carolina, Georgia, and Nevada. That is every single swing
state that is being contested to a large degree by
both parties, including huge favorites in North Carolina, Georgia, and Arizona. Now,
(02:00):
all of you still need to go out and vote,
but I give you credit, buck because even in the
midst of the sugar high, you were saying, hey, it's
a sugar high, and we still have sixty days to go.
But next week many of you are going to start
to be able to vote. So whatever the political process is,
we have a rolling election now, we don't have just
(02:23):
election Day, and so whatever happens in September or October,
a lot of you are going to already have your
vote banked.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
In addition to that forecast and the betting markets now
having Trump favored in substantially in North Carolina, in Georgia,
in Arizona, and opening up a big lead in Pennsylvania
in the betting markets. I also in and Nevada. I
also am getting closer in Michigan and Wisconsin. Again, this
(02:57):
is where you can go and bet on who you
think is going to win the state. There have been
three good legal rulings for Trump that have basically happened
while we've been on the air so far today. First
of all, you have the sentencing for those of you
who have not heard yet, the sentencing in the Trump
hush money the document's case, the thirty four felonies has
(03:22):
now been pushed from September eighteenth to November twenty sixth,
so that is now going to happen several weeks after
the election. And RFK Junior, who has dropped out of
the race and endorsed Trump, was on in three battleground states, Michigan,
North Carolina, and Wisconsin. Today, courts in both Michigan and
(03:43):
North Carolina have ordered RFK Junior's name to be removed
from the ballot. All three of those are big legal
victories for Trump. As we get ready for what is
probably going to be the biggest event of the first
half of September four shore, which is the debate between
Kamala Harris and Trump on September tenth, and so Buck,
(04:04):
as we roll into the weekend, there is a lot
of really good momentum for Trump being stacked up, not
to mention that he had a press conference today, that
he got the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police,
that he is continuing to be out on the campaign
trail doing events everywhere, and Kamala Harris is basically in
(04:25):
hiding as she prepares for this September tenth debate that
all of us are going to be watching. So I
am very optimistic as we get ready for the official
sprint run of the presidential election next week when many
of you start being able to vote. I also want
(04:46):
to play for you a couple of clips that I
referenced in the last hour. One is this is Mark
Cuban getting bodied by the CNBC hosts when he's questioned
about Kamala Harris's economic policies. Called into CNBC, this is
a very finance oriented audience, as you can well imagine
listen to this cut.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Let me just say I appreciate your calling in telling
us what you're hearing on these fronts. That's great, But
as you've said yourself, you can't speak for the vice president.
These are things they're telling you. Who knows what they're
telling other people. My guess is they're telling anybody who's
donating to them exactly what they want to hear at
this point, what they say publicly, what they stick to.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
No, absolutely, positively not right.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Let me just why do you think that they're telling
you the truth and not telling other people other things. Well,
if they won't say it publicly, say it publicly, tell
all of us so that we can.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Hold you to it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I get it, but you've got to get the details right.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
You can't change But we have.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Sixty days to an election, Like you're asking people to.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Get the day before the election right, even if it's
the day.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Before, Okay, bodied by CNBC Mark Cuban, I just I mean,
that's really good questioning. I wish we had more media
who were pushing back like that. I think that was
Julia Borstein on CNBC, just letting Mark Cuban have it
for essentially doing what I think is she's accurate about
telling people what they're telling Cuban because they want to
(06:08):
hear it when she won't even come out and tell
us what her actual policies are. She's allowing other people
to run for president on her behalf is really what's
going on. This is a collectivist effort, you could say,
to win the presidency.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
And it's an embarrassment. It's really an embarrassment for the country.
You know, I understand that for Democrats like Donald Trump,
it's the worst thing ever.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, he was president and it actually went very well
as far as.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
The things that you can gauge a presidency by. We
did have the lunacy of the COVID and all that,
but you know, that was like an asteroid hitting the
earth in some ways. Just sometimes stuff happens. But Trump
did a very good job. He's not Hitler all these
things they say. He's not the end of democracy. It's
stupid when they say these things. Kamala Harris winning the
(06:59):
presidency to me means we're not a serious country, and
I'd have to really do a rethink about what the
future looks like for this nation because it's so obvious
that she is a phony and there's no authenticity and
there's no leadership and there's no vision. She is effectively
an appendage of the Democrat machinery. She is just there
(07:21):
to be the figurehead. They did pull this off with Biden.
But to your point, Clay, from earlier in the show,
Biden's brand was more conducive and built over forty years
of bs that he was a guy who you know,
was just like assault of the earth. You can trust
to me know, its a hard day's work. I mean,
all this sloganeering nonsense, right, and some one of the
(07:42):
funniest things I actually have here.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I have.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
A book that I was using for research for my book,
actually Iconography of Power Soviet political posters under Lenin and Stalin.
And what's so funny is you have all these I mean,
it's like tragic funny, but it goes through it has
all these posters in it.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's a really interesting book.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
And they have these people who are you know, now
sort of despots, but the Central Committee, the high level
Soviet these are all intellectuals effectively, right, or at least
fancy themselves as intellectuals. But all the iconography and all
the is about the is about the hammer and sickle
and the peasant farmer. These people who don't know anything
(08:28):
about peasant farmers. None of them were peasant farmers. The
whole thing was a fraud. The whole thing was a
put on, right, and then it transitioned when they went
through the industrialization under Stalin into oh, the steel worker,
like the worker at the mill. It's just like with Biden.
Joe Biden has no idea what it is to be
a plumber or an electrician or a contractor or. But
(08:50):
you know he's always rolled up shirt. Hey, I'm blue
collar Joe, right.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That worked.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Kamala Harris's thing is I'm the diversity educator at your
third tier public use university. I don't think that's going
to play that well with the voters who were still
up for winning over no doubt. And that's starting to
resonate in Michigan, in Pennsylvania and in Wisconsin, the so
called blue wall, which is praying in a massive way.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And I wanted to play this for you.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You mentioned someone who is not connected at all with
the general public, maybe a Hollywood megastar like George Clooney
who's doing a film debut in Venice. I do want
to play this audio because I just thought it was
the height of bs. George Clooney, working with Barack Obama,
writes an editorial in The New York Times demanding that
(09:40):
Joe Biden stepped down. And remember he actually called for
a mini primary because I think the real story that's
going to come out soon is nobody actually wanted Kamala
to be the nominee because they were aware that she
would end up losing. I can't wait to read the
book after the election is done. But listen to George
Clooney when he's asked about the impact of that editorial
(10:01):
and Joe Biden's stepping down, and also listen to the
media cheering in Europe. This is Venice at the film
festival this week.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
The person who should be applauded is the president who
did the most selfless thing that everybody's done since George Washington.
And that's true, and so anybody. All the machinations that
got us there, none of that's going to be remembered,
and it shouldn't be. What should be remembered is the
selfless act of someone who you know, it's very hard
(10:33):
to let go of power.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Joe Biden gets knifed in the back. What really we
should remember is not the knifing in the back, and
the fact that we forced him not to be president
of the United States anymore. It's how selfless his relinquishment
of power is, even for George Clooney and even by
the standards of Hollywood hypocrisy, that is an incredible sound bite.
(10:56):
And Notebuck, those people clapping were not random people that
happened to be in the vicinity of George Clooney. That
was all the media there to cover him celebrating his
destruction of Joe Biden's political career.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I just that clip is pretty remarkable that he would argue,
we told you on this show that would happen. That
they would say, as soon as Joe Biden stepped down, Hey,
he is the modern day George Washington. That was inevitable.
But to be able to say that with a straight
face after what George Clooney, in conjunction with Barack Obama
did to Joe Biden's political future and career. Remember Buck,
(11:36):
the New York Times wrote multiple editorials demanding that Joe
Biden stepped down. But somehow the party is so controlled
by left wing Hollywood elite that it took George Clooney
writing and editorial for the pressure to really go to
a different level. And I also think the Obamas and
a few others were the end of it for Joe.
(11:59):
And I still very strongly that our initial analysis of
how could they push him out just about inducements for
the Biden family really just allowing the grift to continue
long after Joe is out of office, and that was
enough eventually for them. You know you're gonna see they
will be treated the Bidens will be treated well going
(12:20):
forward because of a decision that Joe made. I bring
that up just because it's the exact opposite of what George.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Clooney is saying, which is like.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
Oh, Biden did the least selfish thing ever this it's
the least selfish thing. The way if someone holds a
gun to my head and says give me your wallet,
and I give them my wallet, that's not a selfless act.
That's a I don't want what's coming unless I do
what you tell me act. Yeah, And they told Biden,
you step down or we will punish your family. Going forward,
(12:51):
they will not be welcome in the corridors of power,
and they won't be getting, you know, the money from
the Netflix consulting gigs, on the speaking and the book
and the chancellorships and all these other things that the
left will throw at you. So it's just funny. It's
it's like I say, anti truth. Biden was pure selfishness
in stepping down.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Actually, do you.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Think doctor Jill Biden wants Kamala to lose?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yes? I do, absolutely, absolutely not gonna say it publicly.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I think Joe might recognize his legacy as somewhat tied
to Kamala. I think doctor Jill hates Kamala and actually
secretly wants her to lose.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
If I were.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Doctor Jill, and I know that would require many years
of study to get my important doctorate, which is not
even really a doctorate, but put that aside, I would
actually want Kamala to lose as well. You know, I'm
I'm loyalty to your family is a central character trait
as far as I am concerned. And they did Biden dirty. Yeah,
(13:51):
they did him dirty, and I totally I would not
you know, So oh yeah, I think I think that's right.
We'll take some call. Also, we've got a friend Michael
Barry Zarov talk joining here. Dive into this with him
in just a few minutes. But switching gears here for
something really important, the International Fellowships with Christians and Jews
(14:14):
and the work that they're doing, because as you know,
Israelis are waking up every day now with more and
more threats growing all around them because of this ongoing
war with Hamas. They've got Hesbala on their perimeter, they've
got the Iranian terrorist entity just not that far away,
and there's so much going on that requires the allies
(14:37):
of Israel to step in now and do what is
necessary to support them. And that's where the International Fellowship
of Christians and Jews comes in.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The IFCJ.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
They've been helping Israeli citizens for as long as for
more than forty years, rather with things like food and
medicine and water for bomb shelters, because within hours of
attacks by Hamas soldiers, for example, or rather with hours
of attacks of terrorists, people like the IFCJ rally and
they do everything they can on the front lines support
(15:08):
Israel through the International Fellowship.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Of Christians and Jews. Go to SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That
support IFCJ dot org.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do
a lot of it. With the Sunday Hang Join Clay
and Buck as they laugh it up in the Klay
and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever
you get your podcasts, you know play.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
We didn't mention this at all before. Don't have much
time for it. I just want to know how crazy
the news cycle is that we all live in now
and where the sort of goalposts are for what gets attention?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's the news story. It's out there. People know it.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
You know that Mayor Eric Adams has had a number
of his top this is the mayor of New York City,
largest city in America.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
There were FBI raids this week on a.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Number of his top officials, top you know, mayoral t advisors,
the NYPD commissioner I believe, has had his house rated.
And this has to this has to do with some
I don't even know really that much of what the
nexus is here. It's funny because we're all like Russia, Russia, Russia.
(16:21):
That was such a big story for a day. But
it has to do with they think the allegation is
Turkish money being illegally funneled into the New York City
mayoral race. I mean Turkish like from Turkey, what like?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
What is going on? In the world.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I asked to Buddy this the other day because of
all the stories about politicians being arrested. It's happened a
lot in LA and New York. Recently, Kathy Hokl's former
chief of staff arrested for Chinese money. It makes me
wonder how common certainly we've seen, with with what happened
with the the Senate or from New Jersey who got convicted,
(17:03):
how much bribery is actually going on, Because probably we're
not catching a huge percentage of the bribery of politicians
that's going on, but it dirt certainly seems like it's
far more prevalent than I would have thought.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Seizing the electronics and the cell phone of the Police
Commissioner of New York the large I used to work
in the NYPD, the largest police force in America. This
is like an this is a you know, a page
three New York Times kind of story. This is not
something that has gotten all that much attention because of
what's going on. This is crazy. This is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, and again it impacts Kathy Hokel.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I was reading there's a huge story in LA about
everybody getting bribed here. I do think it's one party
rule makes a bribery more likely because you're not worried
about getting caught by the other.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Side as much as it might be if you.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Actually had true opposition.
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of True.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show, bringing our
good friend Michael Berry, Houston based. We appreciate all of
you listening in Houston, massive audience down there, and he's.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Got some great news.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You guys know, I know many of you start off
your day listening to Premiere all day long. We appreciate
those of you listen to us, who listened to Sean
Hannity after us, Glenn Beck before us, Jesse Kelly despite
the fact that he has awful taste in pricey tequila
or is maybe really good taste as long as he
doesn't have to pay for it, and soon to be
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a part of the overall Premiere Network group. Michael Berry,
congratulations on the news that you're going to be joining
the team. Tell people out there who may want to
know how to listen and how that process will take place.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Thank you, Clay Well. It's a huge honor obviously to
get to join with you guys, because most people know
we happen to be friends off the air as well.
It's an incredible honor. Syndicator. It's the folks that brought
people rushed still bring Sean Henny Glenn back. It's you know,
it's the big leagues, and so it's what everybody wants
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to do. You're on the big park, You're you're in
the big park, You're on the big mound, You're you're, you're,
you're there. It's exciting and then from there you've got
to be good at what you do. So, uh, we'll
be on after Jessic Kelly across the country, So that
process will take time as stations hopefully come on. But
as you know, the Premier team, Julie Talbot, Peter Trippy,
(20:29):
Craig Kitchen, all the folks that have provided these shows
for all these years, and now you got that horsepower
behind you. I mean, that's I'm just I'm fired up.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Well, congratulations to the TSARREV talk ritually deserved and we
also appreciate you being a phenomenal lead in after a
dominating the airwave so many years in Houston. So thank
you for that, Michael, because we've been we've been able
to reach so many Houstonians as a result of of
what a great station you got down there. I want
to ask you about where you.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Think we're surprised and you came to Houston and the
welcome you got from and y'all hadn't been on that long,
the welcome you got when we did our event, and
that was just a just that we were limited to capacity.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But you guys are amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
And I know you look at your ratings, but Eddie
Martinez will tell you guys are killing it here.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, thank you, sir.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Yah know, we were like, hey, who wants to come
hang out with us? And Michael and Jesse Kelly And
they're like fifteen hundred people showed up to a barbecue.
We're like, Okay, I think Houston is home territory. This
is great, but let's let's let's get into where we're
all going here, mister Barry. Which is an election that,
like every election is important and I know, but to me,
(21:37):
if we lose this one, it's too depressed to even contemplate.
I do believe Donald Trump is going to win. Let's
focus in on the upcoming debate. Do you think it matters?
And how do you expect it to go?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It scares me that the expectations are that Donald Trump
gives the most soaring speech in all of history, and
that Kamala Harris stumbles, falls on the ground, and you
know spew's venom because you know, expectations game is what
put George W. Bush ahead in every debate because everyone
thought he would he would screw it up, and all
he had to do was was have a pulse and
(22:12):
he would have you know, he exceeded expectations. It's like
the stock market report. She has such low expectations that
I see her possibly exceeding those, and it's too much
pressure for Trump. He did so well against Biden, and
of course they're going to be skewed against him, which
is why, of course Kamala didn't do the interview with
Trump a few days ago. But look, when it comes
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down to policy, Trump knows it inside and out and
she doesn't. And I think people people are well aware
of that. I like the direction Trump is going. He's
talking about the forgotten man. He's talking about issues that
matter outside of traditional political circles and outside of partisan folks.
He's talking about the inflation, he's talking about crime. He's
(22:56):
talking about boys playing in girls sports and breaking their noses.
And and that's where tampon Tim's weirdness comes out. I
see Trump getting back to the twenty sixteen that identified
with the low information voter, the a political voter, the
RFK coming in helps. I think the Trump campaign is
doing well, and yes, I'm worried about the debate because
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of the expectations game.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Michael, what don you tell us about the Cruise campaign
in Texas? Because as much attention as we can give
to the presidential situation, and certainly it matters a great deal,
Republicans are really poised to take back control of the
Senate too. Ted Cruz got a race, been under the
radar a little bit. You think he's in good spot
there in general because other than Ted Cruz and Rick
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Scott in Florida, and I don't think those guys are
super targets. But that's really the only hope that Democrats
would have is that they could flip one of those seats.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Clay, I'm so glad you asked that because I think
across the country, too many folks are going to vote
for Trump and walk out, and you've got to vote
all down the ballot. I think Ted Cruse is slightly
ahead at this point, and that's not a sign of
him not being popular. That's a sign of a lot
of Californians having moved to Texas, and a lot of
Californians in New York are spending a lot of money
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on the Democrat challenger to Ted Cruz. They did this
six years ago, they did it twelve years ago. But
Ted Cruz represents Texas in the United States Senate very
very well. And that matters to people whether you live
in Houston, Dallas, sent Anton Austin, or out in West
Texas as a rancher or farmer. He represents our values
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and that's important. That gets lost in the mix of
all this. You know, he goes into those Senate meetings,
those judiciary hearings, he goes into meetings with over the budget,
he goes into meetings over bad policy, and he absolutely
nails people to the wall. And that makes Texans proud
that he's a Texan. So I think he pulls it out.
But it's a very very tough race here.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
I was also thinking about, as Michael, you're a guy
who doesn't doesn't like like a lot of people throw
a nonsense around. You see through it very quickly. Kamala
Harris is now apparently in favor of the Wall. I mean,
I guess the wall wouldn't be that far from you
with Texas, right, it would just be down there on
the border. What are we to make of this when
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she's stealing Trump ideas just so that she can fool people,
I guess how does this work?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
But the amazing thing is I still think that illegal
immigration and the border is the number one issue in
Texas because we bear the brunt of this problem, as
do people in Arizona to a lesser extent. But I'll
tell you it's now a nationwide problem, especially since our
governor very wisely started busting illegals, and just a few
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of our illegals landing in Denver and Chicago and New
York and they go running. You remember what happened to
Marcus Vineyard. They had to take down there. They're welcome
to this. They don't want these people there because it's
really bad for them. I think that it tells you
that they're polling numbers reveal that illegal immigration is hurting
her and hurting her badly. And so if she has
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to go back on everything she said before.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
She'll do it.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
And that is a very telling fact. The American public.
Three quarters of the American public wants illegal immigration stopped
in about seventy percent of them want I'm deported, Michael.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I'm curious how much you hear this.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You mentioned it, the number of people that are moving
to Texas from blue states. This will be one of
the first cycles. I know you had twenty twenty two,
but the midterms aren't necessarily driving the same level of turnout.
What do you think that's going to look like from
Texas and are you feeling like some are moving because
they're read voters or is there kind of a consistent
(26:44):
concern in Texas that these What I hear a lot
is that basically these people are locusts.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
They destroy where they were, for instance, California, and then
they go somewhere new and bring the same policies that
they destroyed the state they left behind to the new place.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I think that's a very astute point that a lot
of people are not picking up on. You know, the
Californians that went to Oregon, they made Oregon more liberal
and ruined part of it. The Californians that have gone
to Colorado very liberal and more fruits and nuts. The
people that are coming to Texas. The numbers guys show
me numbers that say believe it or not, the people
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who come here are red already and making us more red.
And I think you've seen that in Florida, Buck, I
think you've seen it in Tennessee Clay because it's people
that are going there that want to be around like
minded people, and so they're fleeing the Californians and seeking
a refuge as opposed to being people that were blue
(27:43):
that came for a job. And my numbers show that
we become more red as a result of it.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
I mean, Michael, the numbers in Florida, which I'm pretty
familiar with, speak directly to what you're saying, which is
it used to be a two hundred and fifty thousand
right before Ron DeSantis was sworn in and fifty foulsand
Democrat registration advantage in the state. I think it's now
a Republican advantage of plus a million, which is amazing
when you think about it. Huge shift. So yeah, I
(28:11):
love that is the Santus. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's
there's it's been an amazing uh phenomenon here. But you've
got to keep Texas red or else the whole country fall.
So just get to work on that, Okay.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Well, and you got to keep Ted Cruz in the
Senate because Ted Cruz is a guy much like a
Rand Paul. There's a couple of guys in politics that
no one can replace them in the importance of how
they can get news into the cycle and how they
can move the news cycle and the political cycle forward.
And Cruise plays a key role in that.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Absolutely well.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Congrats again to our friend Michael Barry, the czar of
Talk on his national syndication by Premiere Networks. And we
got to come down to Houston and hang out soon. Michael,
thanks for being with us.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I would love that you guys have been very kind
to me and and along with our good friend Jesse Kelly,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Guys right back at you. Thank you. Congrats that all
of you.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
I gotta say, I don't think for a minute that
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Speaker 2 (29:24):
I even know what a parlay is. Now, that's right.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
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Wow.
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I mean, I'm just gonna say this. You've been doing
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Speaker 7 (30:56):
We are closing up shop here on Clay and Bucks,
sending you off into the the weekend. I wish it
was a holiday weekend, but to the weekend everybody's been
working for. And Tuesday we've got the debate coming up,
which which will be fun. I it's funny people ask
me like, do you want to go to a debate
watch party? I get invites to debate watch parties and
(31:18):
I always have to find a polite way of saying no,
because what I don't want is to hear other people
debating the debaters around me, which there's always somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Who's like, well, I would say bla blah, butity blah.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
It's like, I actually want to hear what the vice
president and the former president have to say. So I
tend to watch in solitude with some sort of delicious
food in front of me. What about you, Clay, What's
what's the what's the Clay debate? Watch pathway?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I am definitely watching by myself. Now, my sixteen year
old son has gotten interested in watching of late. My
wife will be walking through. There's always chaos when you
got kids. Now, this debate in central time will be
eight o'clock nine o'clock Eastern, but the kids will be
(32:07):
running around, There'll be chaos. I'll be sitting with a
notepad because like a nerd, I have a yellow legal
pad and I just jot down as it's going on.
Oh this is what I thought of. This is, you know,
kind of what I thought was key issues. I'll also,
I don't know if you'll do it, but I'll jump
in a little bit on social media and I'll tweet
some thoughts, but I try not to read what anybody
(32:30):
else says until after the debate because I don't want
to end up colored by what the consensus is. I
want to watch and try to make my own decision
as opposed to allowing myself to go down into the
wormhole that is social media during the debates.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Yeah, I'll probably do a little live tweeting on x
and maybe a little truthing truth social is that what
they call it?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Truth thing as well?
Speaker 7 (32:54):
So, oh, and just a preview of next week, our
friend I think Cash Btow will be with us talk
about russa Ruck Russia stuff. We'll get some Trump people on.
I think we're gonna have Lisa Booth on next week
as well to talk about Yeah, Monday, Oh, on Monday,
there we go to talk about the debate. So we'll
roll out some of our all stars, get Carol mark
Witz in the mix here soon, talk about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
So looking forward to it.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
But you know, Clay, there's a part of me that
is also my real feeling with all this is, you know,
let's go like I've with this has been building for
a long time, and it's like the final act of
the movie that you're you want to see it, but
you're like, it's time. This has been in a lot.
This has been a long build up to get to
this moment. And I think it'll be a particularly interesting
(33:42):
election cycle.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I really do.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
I mean, last one was pretty crazy, but this one
could be any if you just think about what's happened.
We're sitting here on September sixth, if you just think
about what's happened since June twenty seventh. For people out
there who say, I mean, that's a little bit over
two months, right, that we've had since June twenty seventh,
Biden effectively gets knocked out. Someone tries to kill Trump.
On July thirteenth, July twenty first, Biden drops out. Kamala
(34:09):
now has been in the race for about six weeks
and hasn't really talked to anybody, And I think this
may be the last and only face to face aspect
of being able to consider both Kamala and Trump that
we will see. And it's just ninety minutes with a
couple of commercial breaks rolled in. My general expectation is
(34:29):
that Kamala. You heard Michael Berry say that the expectations
for George W.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Bush were always low.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I think most people expect Kamala to be pretty good
in this debate. In fact, if you look at the
gambling market, she's favored to win. Now, partly that's because
inevitably every Democrat they finished the race, and then they
put up a poll from CNN and MSNBC and it
shows that they won.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
That's how bad Biden was that. The CNN was like, yeah,
Trump won this debate. But if Trump just keeps it
between the lines and stays fairly committed to making his arguments,
I think it will be the last best chance for
Kamala to change the narrative. And I think after this
debate it will pivot to what does Kamala actually believe
(35:09):
as a couple of week storyline, and then many of
you are going to be out there voting. We had
Marshall Blackburn on yesterday. She said, in my state, I'm
eligible to vote on October sixteenth. I'm going to go
in and vote on October sixteenth, and go ahead and
get my ballot cast. Many of you can vote earlier
than that, and we encourage you to go do it
and allow other people who are less likely voters to
(35:31):
be contacted and focused on particularly in battleground states where
it may come down to a few thousand votes and so.
And you still believe right that that Kamala is leaving
open the possibility of more debates depending on how this
debate goes, right. I think if she has a strong performance,
she's done. She's like, I've done it, I'm done. I
(35:53):
think if she has a particularly weak performance, and I
think you see the same way right, then she might
just need another shot.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I think they'll wait and see what the numbers look
like internally right after they do the debate on September tenth,
and if they feel like they did well enough, they'll
hide her. If they feel like they're in trouble, they'll
start begging and demanding that there be another debate. And
I think Trump could be in a position where he
has to decide, Hey, do I want to do another
debate or I feel like I've done enough. I think
(36:20):
the more people see of Kamala, the less they like her.
I think they know Trump. I think the more of
Kamala the better, is my general consensus. But I'm not
sure that she'll debate more than this. Going to be
a fun weekend, going to be a fun, crazy ride
over the next sixty days, Buck, I cannot wait to
get to November fifth and have the ballots officially underway.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
They'll have a great weekend, everybody enjoy what In most
parts of the country. I think there'll be some really
good weather. Rest up, because next week we are back
into the breach growing down for America.
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