September 7, 2024 • 31 mins
In this episode, Tudor interviews Bill McGinley, former White House cabinet secretary under President Trump and outside counsel to the RNC, about the behind-the-scenes workings of politics and the Democratic Party's strategies. They discuss the influence of dark money in Democratic campaigns, the weaponization of nonpartisan positions, and the partisan behavior of secretaries of state. They also emphasize the importance of citizen involvement in the electoral process and the need for fair, transparent, and secure elections. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have a very
interesting show for you today. I think you're going to
really enjoy hearing what goes on behind the scenes in
politics and how the Democrats have gotten as far as
they have. So we wanted to bring an expert in.
We have Bill McGinley with us today. He is the
former White House Cabinet Secretary under President Trump and also
outside council to the RNC, So he's seen all of
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the sausage in the election machine and it seems like
they kind of have better sausage on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Bill, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Sure, well, they at least have more expensive sausage, that's true.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I've spent a.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Lot more money of building out that infrastructure and it's
something that they use to pay dividends election cycle after
election cycle.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
So can't wait to get into it with you now.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Actually, I do want to get into that because in Michigan,
I always say I think that this really changed after
twenty sixteen because they saw this organic support of Trump
and it panicked them because they've never seen this kind
of They'd never seen this kind of support before, and
so I think that what happened is they started bringing
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in all these nonprofit organizations, and then they got the
Secretary of State's office, the Attorney General's office, the Governor's office,
and really they do weaponize those seeds against people.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
No, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And President Trump's election in twenty sixteen really was a
sea change, I think in terms of the democratic dark
money operation. I think before that they were looking at
these large, uber nonprofit organizations run by people like David
Brock or other big name players in the dark money universe,
funded by the donors to Democracy Alliance, which is a
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big donor group that was founded by Rob Stein. There's
a book out there called The Argument that I would
ask your readers to take some time and go through
because it talks about the evolution of the thought process
amongst these democratic dark money donors. And after sixteen, they
were all surprised by Trump's victory and they really kind
of brought in a new crew of consultants a way
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to approach the Republicans. They really kind of called it
the Resistance Map. The New York Times published the map
from the Democracy Alliance that really shows how they broke
out the different functions from everything from going after Republican
public officials, to research, to organizing protests, to opposition research,
lawfare to go against all of the Republicans. I mean,
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it's quite sophisticated and organized, and they basically fund this
surround sound approach to basically attack the Republican Party without
the Democratic officials or the party getting their hands dirty
and being able to point to them as the genesis
for these types of tactics.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So we always thought that there were certain positions that
were just non partisan positions that you just did the
work of.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know, secretary of state.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
She's running elections, she's making sure that we have vehicles registered.
All of the functions of the secretary of state. We
thought we're just nonpartisan functions in Michigan. We've been shocked
by what Jocelyn Benson has been able or has tried
to do. She's obviously I think she's on our sixth
lawsuit now that she's lost, and you've been a part
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of some of that. I believe that we have a
clip from her that is just a few days ago
she came out and she said, if anybody threatens to
not certify the results, well let's play it for you
if we have it.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
If someone were to violate the law and not certify.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The election at the local level, we will come for you.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
So any local certifier thinking of skirting the law and
not certifying the vote, don't even think about it, because
we we'll get you.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Have you ever heard of secretary of state speak that
way to the people of her state.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No, because even though the Secretary of State in a
lot of states is a partisan office, everybody expects the
Secretary of State to act as a neutral and objective
arbiter or administrator of the election, not to be a
partisan participant in the election. And we've seen some recent
actions coming out of her office that really shows she
did not check her partisan hat at the door when
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she comes in to perform her official duties. For example,
they ruled that JF or RFK Junior has to stay
on the ballot after he announced the suspension of his campaign.
But Cornell West, another independent candidate, they tried to keep
him off the ballot. Why would they think that type
of split on the Democratic side, It's because they think
it advantages to Kamala Harris and Tim Walt's ticket.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And this is after she's forced him to be on
the ballot. This is I mean this is bizarre, that's correct.
Or No, she originally tried to keep him off.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
She originally tried to keep.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Him off because she said, you can't be on the
ballot because you're not going to be the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I mean, they've just they have so manipulated democracy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And I always think, you know, Ockham's razor is a
pretty good way to start an analysis. And there's only
one simple explanation that really plans why she would turn
so quickly on that decision, and that's because she's looking
at the partisan advantage for Kamala Harris and the upcoming election.
And so you know, we always have to we always
have to look at this. And I think one of
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the most disturbing things that we really see in this
trend are the secretary's of state becoming active participants in
the election. It's one thing to enforce the law, whether
it's keeping the voter rolls clean, making sure there's parody
with toll watchers, what I hope we'll talk about later,
you know, any of the different things that you know
a secretary of State should do to enforce and make
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sure that there is transparency in the process, that both sides, Democrats,
Republicans and independents, all sides are going to have faith
in the process and confidence and the results because the
citizen armies that show up to actually cast their ballots,
volunteer on election day or during early voting, just to
be the eyes and ears of their party, not to
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do anything else, but just to be able to come
back and say we didn't see any issue, or if
we saw an ishe this is what we saw, and
then the lawyers can can figure out a course of action,
including contacting the Secretary.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Of state's office.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
These are time honored roles that political parties have done,
and we see the Democrats, especially their secretaries of state
and the attorneys generals in some of these states, are
really using bellicost language to try and intimidate these people
who really are active and valued participants in the democratic
product process on both sides of the aisle. I hope
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they dial it back, they allow the process to unfold,
because if we have a fair, transparent and secure process,
I am confident Donald Trump it's going to be prevail
on November five.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But it hasn't been fair for several years, and that's
why these lawsuits have had to be brought up against
Jocelyn Benson in Michigan, and I mean, you have had
similar situations Arizona. You had Katie Hobbs, who is Secretary
of State, a very partisan secretary of state, then runs
her own election for governor. We are seeing that that'll
be the same thing in Michigan because Jocelyn Benson had
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as many times said she's very interested in running for governor,
so this will be the same situation.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
She's done some things in this state that are bizarre.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You've had to see her to get people off the
voter rolls because she wouldn't clean the voter roles, one
of her main duties. I mean, that really is just
kind of like one of the standard duties of the
secretary of State, and she's refused to do that. Another
one I want to ask you about, because we were
always very concerned, she eliminated the signature match. After touting
it and saying everything is safe because you have the
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signature match, it's the safest way to make sure that
absentee ballots are actually who they say they are.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
She eliminated that.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, and you know a court had to come in.
You know, she was putting out the secret guidance that
had the presumption of validity, which I think she used
as the basis for trying to do that something that
really didn't have a tethered basis in statutor in the
statutory regime out there in Michigan, and the court had
to come in and say there's no basis for this.
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The presumption is gone. Now, with the presumption gone, that
should result in both parties looking at the signatures to
see if they match. If they don't match, you can
set it aside and do a further investigation. Just because
the signatures don't match doesn't mean a ballot doesn't count.
It just requires you to go back and confirm that
that is the voter who casts the ballot. All of
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these things strengthen democracy. They basically bring transparency to the process.
They give people faith that when they announce the results,
they're confident that those results were based on a fair,
transparent and secure process. And I really think that these
secretaries of state that are becoming more and more partisan,
viewing the office not as really a public service to
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serve all voters of their state, but as a stepping
stone to higher office, I think are really doing the
voters in their state a disservice. I really think that
they should be something that is seen and heard from
less and do a better job at administering the laws
that the legislators have empowered you to do.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
First ran that was her message was I'm going to
sure have shorter wait times. I'm going to make the
state work harder for you. We will be true servants.
And then this last two election cycles it's been we're
going to force democracy. We're protecting you from the other side.
This message from someone who I think people have not
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seen as partisan in the past, have seen as like
you said, if you have a problem, you call the
secretary of State. It's been a trusted office, is now
telling you one side of the political aisle is a
threat to me. That's some of the most dangerous language
they can use. We just saw an assassination attempt against
the former president and a presidential candidate, and now we
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have secretaries of state in swing states saying that all
of us are a threat. We just had a situation
in the primary where Detroit has somehow like seven times
more poll workers, and you just talked about how important
these nonpartisan are these Democrat and Republican poll workers are
working together. How does that happen that we end up
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with seven times more Democrats than Republicans because that goes
through her office.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It shouldn't be able to happen.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, Well, the R and C and others in Michigan
are litigating over that issue because it's called the parody requirement.
And basically, in order to have the transparency and the
faith and the process, you want to have as much
parity as possible between Democrats, Republicans, and independents. And so
these state boards are empowered to go out and try
and find the election workers who are going to man
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the station, administer the election, interact with the voters, and
you're supposed to make it as bipartisan as possible, so
then nobody feels like there's a partisan advantage there. When
one party is basically not allowed to get to parody,
that creates an issue where the courts may need to
step in and tell these folks, you know, hey, look,
this is not some sort of discretionary clause under the law.
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This is actually a statutory duty that you need to fulfill,
and we expect you to try and do this so
that the people of Michigan can really have faith in
the process. Now, let me also say this, and I
want to say this unrelated to the lawsuit. This is
where your listeners in Michigan, in the battleground states Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia.
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You know, I would even throw in Virginia and Minnesota.
Part of this is the citizens are the way that
we're going to counteract the billions of dollars in dark
money that the Democrats are.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Going to throw at us.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Citizens are the way that we're going to be able
to counteract some of these election administrators who may not
be objective and neutral. It's through your agency that we're
going to be able to do this. So I would
encourage every one of your listeners who care about this
country to go to Trump fors forty seven dot com,
sign up, become a captain in your area, help get
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out the vote, because at the end of the day,
your phone calls to your friends, family, and neighbors and
commit to at least get ten people who believe like
we do, that America is worth saving to sign up
and volunteer to basically get out there and help not
only Donald Trump and jd Vance, but every single Republican
up and down the ticket, and also one more Protect
(12:11):
the vote dot com for the battle around states like Michigan.
We need people to sign up to be pole watchers.
We need lawyers to sign up to be volunteer lawyers.
So go to Protect the Vote dot com and please
get involved today.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I think that that is something that people always assume
there's someone else doing and don't assume because we are
looking for the people that we are the people's movement.
I think that's what people need to really understand. The
Republicans are the party of the people. The Democrats are
the party of big dark money, and big dark money
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actually hires people to do that and they don't care.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
They're getting a paycheck no matter what.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
We've talked to some of these people and they're like, look,
we're getting big money to do this, and why just
because there's two billion extra dollars hanging around on the
Democrat side. I was reading something that advertising will be
somewhere around eleven billion dollars for the cycle. Democrats have
a massive amount of money flowing. Why and how does
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this work? Because we dealt with it in Michigan. Gretchen Whitmer. Oh,
she you know, Tudor Dixon was outspent.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
But why because this wasn't Michigan money, right, And basically
it's the national architecture network that they've built up.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I mean, you have, of course the Arabella Advisor groups
that in twenty twenty one of them almost raised and
spent one billion dollars. That was just one group alone,
and they advised like four or five groups and combined,
I mean, they were at least one point five billion dollars.
Then you go out and you look at some of
their partisan attack organizations, some of which have been blessed
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by the Biden campaign and we expect that blessing to
get venue through the Harris Walts era, you know, Future
Forward and some of the others that they have that
are spending money right now. And then you have their
get out the vote organizers, you know the hubs that
they call for their tables, which is their organizing principles
in the states, like America Votes and others. You have
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the Tide Center and others. I mean, when you look
at the amount of money, that's just the national organizations,
and I always like to have my trustee cheat sheets
here in front of me. But in twenty twenty, the
national spending right between some of the largest dark money
groups on the Democratic side total six hundred and ninety
one million dollars in change. That is a staggering amount
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and almost as much as Donald Trump raised in the
twenty twenty campaign. I mean, and that's just the transfers
among the national organizations. That doesn't even get into the
money that they were shipping down into the battleground states
from everything for get out the vote, for messaging, for
opposition re search. But they you know, in twenty twenty,
they were also they spent about ten million dollars I think.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It was, don't hold me to that.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I believe it was ten million dollars on something called
pizza to the polls. I mean, they had so much money,
they were spending money on the most creative ways to
do it, to try and juice there get out the
vote operation in the name of helping an election administration.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's so funny because they're propaganda is far and wide.
And I was talking to one of my friends in
Europe the other day and he said, you know, all
of the TV, everything we see is that essentially Kamala
Harris will come in like fistfighte putin by herself, and
Trump will make Russia rise, and that this is in
that Kamala Harris is the.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Woman of the people.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And he was saying that they are being told that
this party is truly like the grassroots, that the Democrats
are the grassroots party that are there for the people.
But he said, but we are confused because we have
just seen that she has just taken over as the candidate,
and she has brought in half a billion dollars. And
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he said, how does this person who is so protective
of the people and has been lifted up by the
people who don't have the money, how does she bring
in half a billion dollars in such a short period
of time.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And I'm like, gods, she's not right.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
That's right. I mean, if you look at it, Donald
Trump has really fought for the working class in this country,
and whether it's you know, fighting for the workers by
taking on unfair trade practices to try and bring manufacturing
and assembly and everything else back to the United States
so the American worker can effectively compete against what's happening
overseas when you look at education, where he's fighting so
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that kids are learning how to think for themselves as
opposed to being indoctrinated with what to think. And in
my personal opinion, education is rapidly becoming a national security
issue because not only do our children need to be
able to compete domestically, to compete for the jobs, the
high entering jobs, and all of the jobs. And I
include plumbers, electricians, carpenters, and the other blue collar royalty
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as I like to call them. My dad was a landscaper,
so I love those workers and I've worked with them
summers and summers and summers growing up. But we also
need to be able to compete internationally. And are we
going to be able to compete with China, with Russia,
with Iran, with North Korea, with Venezuela, with some of
the other people that we you know, other nations that
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do not have our best interest at heart in some
cases their adversaries, but certainly opponents. Are our children, the
next generation that's going to step up. Are they going
to have the intellectual firepower to keep America great? And
I think that's a very foundational question that we need
to start asking ourselves as a nation, because when you
talk to parents, they want their kids to learn the
tools to survive. They want their kids to learn the
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tools to compete, to be able to get those great jobs.
And they don't want somebody else substituting their values, their
judgment for the parents' judgments and values for raising their
And really the ultimate fiduciary responsibility in a society is
a parent to a child and to provide for their
well being, for their education, put a roof over their head,
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make sure that they're fed and clothed properly, and provide
them with the security they need to be able to
grow into productive adults.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You make a great point. I think it is it
is parents, but it's also the people of this country.
Even to those folks who are not going to have children,
those are still the people who are saying, I want
to make sure that we preserve the beauty of this country.
And I think that they are being manipulated by this administration,
but also by many of these democrats who have been
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cozying up to outside.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Powers, to dangerous powers.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And we saw Jade Vance here in Michigan a couple
of days ago at the Goshen Site, which is a
Chinese battery factory that Gretchen Whitmer has ushered in and
handed our taxpayer dollars too.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And I just as you were talking.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
About this, I was thinking, you know, having your dad
was a landscaper. My dad started my grandfather worked on
the line at Bell Telephone, and then my father went
through college and he worked in factory stale factories and
worked his way up to being the chief operating officer
of a big company and then bought a factory in Michigan.
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And those are the people who said, we're going to
do everything we can to make sure this country is
great and make sure this country is clean. And we
have done so much to make sure that our land
is preserved for the future. And if you bring the
Chinese in here who haven't and don't care, or you
bring any other group in here that is an adversarial
country that doesn't care about the future of the United
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States of America, how dangerous are how much danger are
we in?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah? Well, you know the other thing is is that
the people you just described are also the first ones
to step up at the recruiting station and defend America
when something goes wrong. And you look at people like
jd Vance, who answered this nation's call enlisted in the
Marine Corps, served his country honorably, pulled himself up the
bootstraps out of poverty in Ohio, to go to one
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of the best law schools in the country, and to
become a very successful businessman and ultimately a US Senator.
That is a story that historically all Americans have celebrated.
People who have worked hard, played by the rules, and
been able to advance themselves in their family. Is something
that usually Republicans and Democrats could do. Now that Democrats
are trying to use his life story as something that
somehow he's not entitled in, you're like, wait a minute,
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if you ask somebody for the ideal American story, a
lot of stuff that jd Vance has done, I think
would be part of that ladder to pull yourself out
of poverty.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
And so they don't.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Want people to see its possible. They don't. They love
to keep people on poverty.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, well, I can tell you the people who you
know work for a living. You know, the people who's
garage they can't park the car in the garage.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Because it's filled with tools because.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Every morning at five thirty or six am, they got
to drive off to a new site. Those people want
to get out of poverty. They want their children to
have a better life. I mean, remember that was always
the American dream. There was a way for us to
debase say I'm going to make the sacrifice it's necessary
so that my children, or my nieces and nephews or
my grandchildren are going to have a better life. And
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I think, you know, somehow we need to get back
to that type of mentality, which is what's most important.
It's not my instant gratification, but what we can do
for the next generation. I think that's what Donald Trump, Jadvans,
Mike Rogers in Michigan, and a lot of others really
are trying to fight for because at the end of
the day, that is our future.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And I think we keep hearing from the Harris administration
that they want this redistribution of wealth and that that
is the ultimate utopia. And it's interesting to me because
what you just said, when I heard you just say,
is that that is totally opposite of human nature. That
we all want the opportunity to push ourselves to become
something different, something better, to prove to ourselves into our families.
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That internal desire to grow and build something. We're builders
by nature, and that socialist attitude that takes that's why
it's never worked. And I've had young people say it's
never been done, right, But what you just said is
the reason, because it goes against human nature.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Right. That's right.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And you know, a lot of the stuff that we're
talking about, you know, the sacrifice to make a better
life for your children, grandchildren, nieces or nephews, the way
that you try to better your community kind of all
goes back to the reason why I hope everybody listening
to your show goes to Trump fors forty seven and
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necessary so that on November five, we can begin the
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process of really kind of making America great again, that
we can really start to correct some of these wrongs.
You know, put prosecutors in place that believe that enforcing
the law is their primary responsibility and justice. You know
that prosecution and incarceration for recidivus violent offenders is something
that needs to be done, you know, putting them you know,
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making education stem education a priority, and some of the
other things that we need to give our kids the
tools to compete, you know, bring us down, deit down,
make America respected again abroad, and improve our security so
that we don't have these lars that are threatening the
pullets into World War three. I mean, when there's a
vacuum of leadership from America on the international stage, you're
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seeing what happens. Aggressors get aggressive. They try to take
advantage of that vacuum, believing that America is not going
to stand up for its national interest. And I think
Donald Trump and JD Vance in the administration that they
would put together, I think instantly our adversaries and opponents
would immediately recognize it would be a new day and
that they would recalibrate their thinking on what they're doing.
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When we started this podcast, you were talking about the
importance of volunteering and getting out there. That has been
a disadvantage on our side because they are you know,
the idea of Obama being the community organizer, this is
a business for them. It's not really the community organizer.
It's about going out and hiring a massive amount of
people and then they keep many of them on the
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That's exactly right.
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Speaker 4 (26:04):
Get out the vote.
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out the votes. We need you to cast your ballot
so that we have something to fight over. If we
have to fight because we want to preserve your ballot,
and so you need to do that.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
But we also need the election security side so that
people have faith in the process.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
And I would also tell your listeners find the method
of voting that is most convenient for you. If you
know you're going to be traveling on election day, vote
early right, whether it's in person, and I know a
lot of people don't want to hear it, I'm mailing.
If you can bring yourself to do it, and you
can basically find a way to track it, use a
mail in ballot. A lot of people will say no,
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I can't trust that. Then find the time on the
weekend to go vote in Verson on an early basis.
You need to get those votes in if there's a snowstorm,
if something else happens on election day and we're not
able to do it. We can't rely on the typical
democratic advantage in early voting. You have to vote exercise
you're franchised. You want to put people like Gretchen Whitmer,
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the governor of Michigan, and Jocelyn Benson, the Secretary of State,
back in a box and to show them how democracy
really works. Make sure your registration is up today. Own
your vote, take responsibility for what you're supposed to be doing.
Figure out the best way for you to cast your
ballot and make sure that you cast it. Make a
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circle of friends of ten people, hold each other accountable.
Have you cast your ballot yet?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Did you get in? And do that okay?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And then make sure that you're volunteering on election day
to help turn out the vote for those people who
had to wait for election day. But also sign up
as a pole watcher, be a volunteer for America, a
volunteer to make sure that democracy actually does work. And
I think you're going to feel a lot better, and
I think it's going to produce the results you want,
not only for you and your family, but for your kids,
your grandkids, your nieces and nephews.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I think that you have to remember this is a
story I haven't told before, but people have to that
we are the Party of the working people, and so
oftentimes you can't get to the polls that day. You
may be going on a business trip. And in twenty
sixteen I did have a business trip. I had to
go out to Canada and I was at a shop
in Canada, so I voted early. I voted the day
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before you could. In Michigan, you can go to your
local precinct and you can put an absentee ballot in
right there. So I did that in twenty sixteen. And
then I went with a bunch of people from Chicago
on a business trip and we're in Montreal and no
one speaks English that the news is all French, and
I'm like, what's going to happen, because you know, everybody
was saying Hillary Clinton would win. And so we went
(28:35):
to this local restaurant. We're sitting there and we can't
understand anything they're saying because it's all on French, right,
and we just see I'm with a bunch of liberals,
we just see the States on the screen going up
into the box and turning red. And I'm sitting there like,
holy wow, this is happening.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And they were sitting there.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Finally the one girl goes, I'm getting sick. We have
to go back to the hotel. I'm getting sick. I
can't watch this around other people. And I'm like, this
is amazing that this is going to happen. This amazing.
And the next morning we came down and I was
sort of like, I don't want to gloat. I don't
want I'm just going to see what people are thinking.
And I will never forget the one man who was
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with me, he said, we're just so worried because we
have a friend who's illegal and we know that in
the next few weeks they're going to come and they're
going to take him out of this country. And I
thought I had just seen the massive amount of deportations
that Obama had done when he was in office, and
the idea that this was something that getting people who
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had come into this country illegally out of the country
and forcing people to come in legally was new was
just so shocking to me.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
They just had no idea.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
There's people were just so uneducated and something that was
important to Democrats was politically advantageous for them to change
their position and demonized. So did and it scared an
entire country full of people, even though it was something
they had done more of than anyone else. It's just
that's just how ghosts.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, I mean, they really are the Party of projection.
Everything that they try to accuse Republicans of, I mean
they are doing tenfold. And you know, you look at
everything from the improper law fair against President Trump and
other Republicans. And I thought Bobby Kennedy when he suspended
his campaign and dropped out, I thought he did a
really good job of basically using real world examples of
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how the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Has just lost its way, right.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I mean, they are not about, you know, working for
the people anymore. They're all about preserving their power at
any cost, and they don't care who they have to
run over, including a Kennedy, one of the most storied
families that helped make the Democratic Party. I mean, what
they're willing to do is really kind of breathtaking and
really demonstrates the stakes involved in this election of why
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we need to prevail, because we really do need to
to course correct on so many fronts so that we
can have a brighter future in America can be great again.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yes, yes, you are absolutely right, and I'm so glad
you were here to talk about it today.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Bill McGinley, thank you for joining me. Thank you so
much for having me absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
For this episode and others, go to tutordisonpodcast dot com
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Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Have a blessed day,
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have a very
interesting show for you today. I think you're going to
really enjoy hearing what goes on behind the scenes in
politics and how the Democrats have gotten as far as
they have. So we wanted to bring an expert in.
We have Bill McGinley with us today. He is the
former White House Cabinet Secretary under President Trump and also
outside council to the RNC, So he's seen all of
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the sausage in the election machine and it seems like
they kind of have better sausage on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Bill, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Sure, well, they at least have more expensive sausage, that's true.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I've spent a.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Lot more money of building out that infrastructure and it's
something that they use to pay dividends election cycle after
election cycle.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
So can't wait to get into it with you now.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Actually, I do want to get into that because in Michigan,
I always say I think that this really changed after
twenty sixteen because they saw this organic support of Trump
and it panicked them because they've never seen this kind
of They'd never seen this kind of support before, and
so I think that what happened is they started bringing
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in all these nonprofit organizations, and then they got the
Secretary of State's office, the Attorney General's office, the Governor's office,
and really they do weaponize those seeds against people.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
No, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And President Trump's election in twenty sixteen really was a
sea change, I think in terms of the democratic dark
money operation. I think before that they were looking at
these large, uber nonprofit organizations run by people like David
Brock or other big name players in the dark money universe,
funded by the donors to Democracy Alliance, which is a
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big donor group that was founded by Rob Stein. There's
a book out there called The Argument that I would
ask your readers to take some time and go through
because it talks about the evolution of the thought process
amongst these democratic dark money donors. And after sixteen, they
were all surprised by Trump's victory and they really kind
of brought in a new crew of consultants a way
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to approach the Republicans. They really kind of called it
the Resistance Map. The New York Times published the map
from the Democracy Alliance that really shows how they broke
out the different functions from everything from going after Republican
public officials, to research, to organizing protests, to opposition research,
lawfare to go against all of the Republicans. I mean,
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it's quite sophisticated and organized, and they basically fund this
surround sound approach to basically attack the Republican Party without
the Democratic officials or the party getting their hands dirty
and being able to point to them as the genesis
for these types of tactics.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So we always thought that there were certain positions that
were just non partisan positions that you just did the
work of.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know, secretary of state.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
She's running elections, she's making sure that we have vehicles registered.
All of the functions of the secretary of state. We
thought we're just nonpartisan functions in Michigan. We've been shocked
by what Jocelyn Benson has been able or has tried
to do. She's obviously I think she's on our sixth
lawsuit now that she's lost, and you've been a part
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of some of that. I believe that we have a
clip from her that is just a few days ago
she came out and she said, if anybody threatens to
not certify the results, well let's play it for you
if we have it.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
If someone were to violate the law and not certify.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The election at the local level, we will come for you.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
So any local certifier thinking of skirting the law and
not certifying the vote, don't even think about it, because
we we'll get you.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Have you ever heard of secretary of state speak that
way to the people of her state.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No, because even though the Secretary of State in a
lot of states is a partisan office, everybody expects the
Secretary of State to act as a neutral and objective
arbiter or administrator of the election, not to be a
partisan participant in the election. And we've seen some recent
actions coming out of her office that really shows she
did not check her partisan hat at the door when
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she comes in to perform her official duties. For example,
they ruled that JF or RFK Junior has to stay
on the ballot after he announced the suspension of his campaign.
But Cornell West, another independent candidate, they tried to keep
him off the ballot. Why would they think that type
of split on the Democratic side, It's because they think
it advantages to Kamala Harris and Tim Walt's ticket.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And this is after she's forced him to be on
the ballot. This is I mean this is bizarre, that's correct.
Or No, she originally tried to keep him off.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
She originally tried to keep.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Him off because she said, you can't be on the
ballot because you're not going to be the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I mean, they've just they have so manipulated democracy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And I always think, you know, Ockham's razor is a
pretty good way to start an analysis. And there's only
one simple explanation that really plans why she would turn
so quickly on that decision, and that's because she's looking
at the partisan advantage for Kamala Harris and the upcoming election.
And so you know, we always have to we always
have to look at this. And I think one of
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the most disturbing things that we really see in this
trend are the secretary's of state becoming active participants in
the election. It's one thing to enforce the law, whether
it's keeping the voter rolls clean, making sure there's parody
with toll watchers, what I hope we'll talk about later,
you know, any of the different things that you know
a secretary of State should do to enforce and make
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sure that there is transparency in the process, that both sides, Democrats,
Republicans and independents, all sides are going to have faith
in the process and confidence and the results because the
citizen armies that show up to actually cast their ballots,
volunteer on election day or during early voting, just to
be the eyes and ears of their party, not to
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do anything else, but just to be able to come
back and say we didn't see any issue, or if
we saw an ishe this is what we saw, and
then the lawyers can can figure out a course of action,
including contacting the Secretary.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Of state's office.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
These are time honored roles that political parties have done,
and we see the Democrats, especially their secretaries of state
and the attorneys generals in some of these states, are
really using bellicost language to try and intimidate these people
who really are active and valued participants in the democratic
product process on both sides of the aisle. I hope
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they dial it back, they allow the process to unfold,
because if we have a fair, transparent and secure process,
I am confident Donald Trump it's going to be prevail
on November five.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But it hasn't been fair for several years, and that's
why these lawsuits have had to be brought up against
Jocelyn Benson in Michigan, and I mean, you have had
similar situations Arizona. You had Katie Hobbs, who is Secretary
of State, a very partisan secretary of state, then runs
her own election for governor. We are seeing that that'll
be the same thing in Michigan because Jocelyn Benson had
(07:00):
as many times said she's very interested in running for governor,
so this will be the same situation.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
She's done some things in this state that are bizarre.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You've had to see her to get people off the
voter rolls because she wouldn't clean the voter roles, one
of her main duties. I mean, that really is just
kind of like one of the standard duties of the
secretary of State, and she's refused to do that. Another
one I want to ask you about, because we were
always very concerned, she eliminated the signature match. After touting
it and saying everything is safe because you have the
(07:28):
signature match, it's the safest way to make sure that
absentee ballots are actually who they say they are.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
She eliminated that.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, and you know a court had to come in.
You know, she was putting out the secret guidance that
had the presumption of validity, which I think she used
as the basis for trying to do that something that
really didn't have a tethered basis in statutor in the
statutory regime out there in Michigan, and the court had
to come in and say there's no basis for this.
(07:56):
The presumption is gone. Now, with the presumption gone, that
should result in both parties looking at the signatures to
see if they match. If they don't match, you can
set it aside and do a further investigation. Just because
the signatures don't match doesn't mean a ballot doesn't count.
It just requires you to go back and confirm that
that is the voter who casts the ballot. All of
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these things strengthen democracy. They basically bring transparency to the process.
They give people faith that when they announce the results,
they're confident that those results were based on a fair,
transparent and secure process. And I really think that these
secretaries of state that are becoming more and more partisan,
viewing the office not as really a public service to
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serve all voters of their state, but as a stepping
stone to higher office, I think are really doing the
voters in their state a disservice. I really think that
they should be something that is seen and heard from
less and do a better job at administering the laws
that the legislators have empowered you to do.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
First ran that was her message was I'm going to
sure have shorter wait times. I'm going to make the
state work harder for you. We will be true servants.
And then this last two election cycles it's been we're
going to force democracy. We're protecting you from the other side.
This message from someone who I think people have not
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seen as partisan in the past, have seen as like
you said, if you have a problem, you call the
secretary of State. It's been a trusted office, is now
telling you one side of the political aisle is a
threat to me. That's some of the most dangerous language
they can use. We just saw an assassination attempt against
the former president and a presidential candidate, and now we
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have secretaries of state in swing states saying that all
of us are a threat. We just had a situation
in the primary where Detroit has somehow like seven times
more poll workers, and you just talked about how important
these nonpartisan are these Democrat and Republican poll workers are
working together. How does that happen that we end up
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with seven times more Democrats than Republicans because that goes
through her office.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It shouldn't be able to happen.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, Well, the R and C and others in Michigan
are litigating over that issue because it's called the parody requirement.
And basically, in order to have the transparency and the
faith and the process, you want to have as much
parity as possible between Democrats, Republicans, and independents. And so
these state boards are empowered to go out and try
and find the election workers who are going to man
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the station, administer the election, interact with the voters, and
you're supposed to make it as bipartisan as possible, so
then nobody feels like there's a partisan advantage there. When
one party is basically not allowed to get to parody,
that creates an issue where the courts may need to
step in and tell these folks, you know, hey, look,
this is not some sort of discretionary clause under the law.
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This is actually a statutory duty that you need to fulfill,
and we expect you to try and do this so
that the people of Michigan can really have faith in
the process. Now, let me also say this, and I
want to say this unrelated to the lawsuit. This is
where your listeners in Michigan, in the battleground states Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia.
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You know, I would even throw in Virginia and Minnesota.
Part of this is the citizens are the way that
we're going to counteract the billions of dollars in dark
money that the Democrats are.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Going to throw at us.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Citizens are the way that we're going to be able
to counteract some of these election administrators who may not
be objective and neutral. It's through your agency that we're
going to be able to do this. So I would
encourage every one of your listeners who care about this
country to go to Trump fors forty seven dot com,
sign up, become a captain in your area, help get
(11:48):
out the vote, because at the end of the day,
your phone calls to your friends, family, and neighbors and
commit to at least get ten people who believe like
we do, that America is worth saving to sign up
and volunteer to basically get out there and help not
only Donald Trump and jd Vance, but every single Republican
up and down the ticket, and also one more Protect
(12:11):
the vote dot com for the battle around states like Michigan.
We need people to sign up to be pole watchers.
We need lawyers to sign up to be volunteer lawyers.
So go to Protect the Vote dot com and please
get involved today.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I think that that is something that people always assume
there's someone else doing and don't assume because we are
looking for the people that we are the people's movement.
I think that's what people need to really understand. The
Republicans are the party of the people. The Democrats are
the party of big dark money, and big dark money
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actually hires people to do that and they don't care.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
They're getting a paycheck no matter what.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
We've talked to some of these people and they're like, look,
we're getting big money to do this, and why just
because there's two billion extra dollars hanging around on the
Democrat side. I was reading something that advertising will be
somewhere around eleven billion dollars for the cycle. Democrats have
a massive amount of money flowing. Why and how does
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this work? Because we dealt with it in Michigan. Gretchen Whitmer. Oh,
she you know, Tudor Dixon was outspent.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
But why because this wasn't Michigan money, right, And basically
it's the national architecture network that they've built up.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I mean, you have, of course the Arabella Advisor groups
that in twenty twenty one of them almost raised and
spent one billion dollars. That was just one group alone,
and they advised like four or five groups and combined,
I mean, they were at least one point five billion dollars.
Then you go out and you look at some of
their partisan attack organizations, some of which have been blessed
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by the Biden campaign and we expect that blessing to
get venue through the Harris Walts era, you know, Future
Forward and some of the others that they have that
are spending money right now. And then you have their
get out the vote organizers, you know the hubs that
they call for their tables, which is their organizing principles
in the states, like America Votes and others. You have
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the Tide Center and others. I mean, when you look
at the amount of money, that's just the national organizations,
and I always like to have my trustee cheat sheets
here in front of me. But in twenty twenty, the
national spending right between some of the largest dark money
groups on the Democratic side total six hundred and ninety
one million dollars in change. That is a staggering amount
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and almost as much as Donald Trump raised in the
twenty twenty campaign. I mean, and that's just the transfers
among the national organizations. That doesn't even get into the
money that they were shipping down into the battleground states
from everything for get out the vote, for messaging, for
opposition re search. But they you know, in twenty twenty,
they were also they spent about ten million dollars I think.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It was, don't hold me to that.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I believe it was ten million dollars on something called
pizza to the polls. I mean, they had so much money,
they were spending money on the most creative ways to
do it, to try and juice there get out the
vote operation in the name of helping an election administration.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's so funny because they're propaganda is far and wide.
And I was talking to one of my friends in
Europe the other day and he said, you know, all
of the TV, everything we see is that essentially Kamala
Harris will come in like fistfighte putin by herself, and
Trump will make Russia rise, and that this is in
that Kamala Harris is the.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Woman of the people.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And he was saying that they are being told that
this party is truly like the grassroots, that the Democrats
are the grassroots party that are there for the people.
But he said, but we are confused because we have
just seen that she has just taken over as the candidate,
and she has brought in half a billion dollars. And
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he said, how does this person who is so protective
of the people and has been lifted up by the
people who don't have the money, how does she bring
in half a billion dollars in such a short period
of time.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And I'm like, gods, she's not right.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
That's right. I mean, if you look at it, Donald
Trump has really fought for the working class in this country,
and whether it's you know, fighting for the workers by
taking on unfair trade practices to try and bring manufacturing
and assembly and everything else back to the United States
so the American worker can effectively compete against what's happening
overseas when you look at education, where he's fighting so
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that kids are learning how to think for themselves as
opposed to being indoctrinated with what to think. And in
my personal opinion, education is rapidly becoming a national security
issue because not only do our children need to be
able to compete domestically, to compete for the jobs, the
high entering jobs, and all of the jobs. And I
include plumbers, electricians, carpenters, and the other blue collar royalty
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as I like to call them. My dad was a landscaper,
so I love those workers and I've worked with them
summers and summers and summers growing up. But we also
need to be able to compete internationally. And are we
going to be able to compete with China, with Russia,
with Iran, with North Korea, with Venezuela, with some of
the other people that we you know, other nations that
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do not have our best interest at heart in some
cases their adversaries, but certainly opponents. Are our children, the
next generation that's going to step up. Are they going
to have the intellectual firepower to keep America great? And
I think that's a very foundational question that we need
to start asking ourselves as a nation, because when you
talk to parents, they want their kids to learn the
tools to survive. They want their kids to learn the
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tools to compete, to be able to get those great jobs.
And they don't want somebody else substituting their values, their
judgment for the parents' judgments and values for raising their
And really the ultimate fiduciary responsibility in a society is
a parent to a child and to provide for their
well being, for their education, put a roof over their head,
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make sure that they're fed and clothed properly, and provide
them with the security they need to be able to
grow into productive adults.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You make a great point. I think it is it
is parents, but it's also the people of this country.
Even to those folks who are not going to have children,
those are still the people who are saying, I want
to make sure that we preserve the beauty of this country.
And I think that they are being manipulated by this administration,
but also by many of these democrats who have been
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cozying up to outside.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Powers, to dangerous powers.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And we saw Jade Vance here in Michigan a couple
of days ago at the Goshen Site, which is a
Chinese battery factory that Gretchen Whitmer has ushered in and
handed our taxpayer dollars too.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And I just as you were talking.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
About this, I was thinking, you know, having your dad
was a landscaper. My dad started my grandfather worked on
the line at Bell Telephone, and then my father went
through college and he worked in factory stale factories and
worked his way up to being the chief operating officer
of a big company and then bought a factory in Michigan.
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And those are the people who said, we're going to
do everything we can to make sure this country is
great and make sure this country is clean. And we
have done so much to make sure that our land
is preserved for the future. And if you bring the
Chinese in here who haven't and don't care, or you
bring any other group in here that is an adversarial
country that doesn't care about the future of the United
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States of America, how dangerous are how much danger are
we in?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah? Well, you know the other thing is is that
the people you just described are also the first ones
to step up at the recruiting station and defend America
when something goes wrong. And you look at people like
jd Vance, who answered this nation's call enlisted in the
Marine Corps, served his country honorably, pulled himself up the
bootstraps out of poverty in Ohio, to go to one
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of the best law schools in the country, and to
become a very successful businessman and ultimately a US Senator.
That is a story that historically all Americans have celebrated.
People who have worked hard, played by the rules, and
been able to advance themselves in their family. Is something
that usually Republicans and Democrats could do. Now that Democrats
are trying to use his life story as something that
somehow he's not entitled in, you're like, wait a minute,
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if you ask somebody for the ideal American story, a
lot of stuff that jd Vance has done, I think
would be part of that ladder to pull yourself out
of poverty.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
And so they don't.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Want people to see its possible. They don't. They love
to keep people on poverty.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, well, I can tell you the people who you
know work for a living. You know, the people who's
garage they can't park the car in the garage.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Because it's filled with tools because.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Every morning at five thirty or six am, they got
to drive off to a new site. Those people want
to get out of poverty. They want their children to
have a better life. I mean, remember that was always
the American dream. There was a way for us to
debase say I'm going to make the sacrifice it's necessary
so that my children, or my nieces and nephews or
my grandchildren are going to have a better life. And
(21:09):
I think, you know, somehow we need to get back
to that type of mentality, which is what's most important.
It's not my instant gratification, but what we can do
for the next generation. I think that's what Donald Trump, Jadvans,
Mike Rogers in Michigan, and a lot of others really
are trying to fight for because at the end of
the day, that is our future.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And I think we keep hearing from the Harris administration
that they want this redistribution of wealth and that that
is the ultimate utopia. And it's interesting to me because
what you just said, when I heard you just say,
is that that is totally opposite of human nature. That
we all want the opportunity to push ourselves to become
something different, something better, to prove to ourselves into our families.
(21:50):
That internal desire to grow and build something. We're builders
by nature, and that socialist attitude that takes that's why
it's never worked. And I've had young people say it's
never been done, right, But what you just said is
the reason, because it goes against human nature.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Right. That's right.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And you know, a lot of the stuff that we're
talking about, you know, the sacrifice to make a better
life for your children, grandchildren, nieces or nephews, the way
that you try to better your community kind of all
goes back to the reason why I hope everybody listening
to your show goes to Trump fors forty seven and
protect the vote dot com and puts the sweat equity
necessary so that on November five, we can begin the
(22:30):
process of really kind of making America great again, that
we can really start to correct some of these wrongs.
You know, put prosecutors in place that believe that enforcing
the law is their primary responsibility and justice. You know
that prosecution and incarceration for recidivus violent offenders is something
that needs to be done, you know, putting them you know,
(22:51):
making education stem education a priority, and some of the
other things that we need to give our kids the
tools to compete, you know, bring us down, deit down,
make America respected again abroad, and improve our security so
that we don't have these lars that are threatening the
pullets into World War three. I mean, when there's a
vacuum of leadership from America on the international stage, you're
(23:14):
seeing what happens. Aggressors get aggressive. They try to take
advantage of that vacuum, believing that America is not going
to stand up for its national interest. And I think
Donald Trump and JD Vance in the administration that they
would put together, I think instantly our adversaries and opponents
would immediately recognize it would be a new day and
that they would recalibrate their thinking on what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
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(25:08):
When we started this podcast, you were talking about the
importance of volunteering and getting out there. That has been
a disadvantage on our side because they are you know,
the idea of Obama being the community organizer, this is
a business for them. It's not really the community organizer.
It's about going out and hiring a massive amount of
people and then they keep many of them on the
(25:29):
payroll because they have all of this dark money and
they are able to do this. That's why, if you're listening,
make sure you not only volunteer, not only go to
that Trump fors forty seven office, but you also get
your friends to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And you make sure.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Guys, we're talking about a few hours of your life
that you're giving up to make sure we are protected.
You think about all the men and women who serve,
all the men and women who give up much more
than that.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Please step in, Please help us out.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And you know if you can just you know, whatever
time you can spare, whether it's an hour a week
making phone calls to neighbor's friends and family for them to.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Get out the vote.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Because remember, election security and get out the voter are
two sides of the same coin. We need to turn
out the votes. We need you to cast your ballot
so that we have something to fight over. If we
have to fight because we want to preserve your ballot,
and so you need to do that.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
But we also need the election security side so that
people have faith in the process.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
And I would also tell your listeners find the method
of voting that is most convenient for you. If you
know you're going to be traveling on election day, vote
early right, whether it's in person, and I know a
lot of people don't want to hear it, I'm mailing.
If you can bring yourself to do it, and you
can basically find a way to track it, use a
mail in ballot. A lot of people will say no,
(26:43):
I can't trust that. Then find the time on the
weekend to go vote in Verson on an early basis.
You need to get those votes in if there's a snowstorm,
if something else happens on election day and we're not
able to do it. We can't rely on the typical
democratic advantage in early voting. You have to vote exercise
you're franchised. You want to put people like Gretchen Whitmer,
(27:03):
the governor of Michigan, and Jocelyn Benson, the Secretary of State,
back in a box and to show them how democracy
really works. Make sure your registration is up today. Own
your vote, take responsibility for what you're supposed to be doing.
Figure out the best way for you to cast your
ballot and make sure that you cast it. Make a
(27:25):
circle of friends of ten people, hold each other accountable.
Have you cast your ballot yet?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Did you get in? And do that okay?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And then make sure that you're volunteering on election day
to help turn out the vote for those people who
had to wait for election day. But also sign up
as a pole watcher, be a volunteer for America, a
volunteer to make sure that democracy actually does work. And
I think you're going to feel a lot better, and
I think it's going to produce the results you want,
not only for you and your family, but for your kids,
your grandkids, your nieces and nephews.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I think that you have to remember this is a
story I haven't told before, but people have to that
we are the Party of the working people, and so
oftentimes you can't get to the polls that day. You
may be going on a business trip. And in twenty
sixteen I did have a business trip. I had to
go out to Canada and I was at a shop
in Canada, so I voted early. I voted the day
(28:15):
before you could. In Michigan, you can go to your
local precinct and you can put an absentee ballot in
right there. So I did that in twenty sixteen. And
then I went with a bunch of people from Chicago
on a business trip and we're in Montreal and no
one speaks English that the news is all French, and
I'm like, what's going to happen, because you know, everybody
was saying Hillary Clinton would win. And so we went
(28:35):
to this local restaurant. We're sitting there and we can't
understand anything they're saying because it's all on French, right,
and we just see I'm with a bunch of liberals,
we just see the States on the screen going up
into the box and turning red. And I'm sitting there like,
holy wow, this is happening.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And they were sitting there.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Finally the one girl goes, I'm getting sick. We have
to go back to the hotel. I'm getting sick. I
can't watch this around other people. And I'm like, this
is amazing that this is going to happen. This amazing.
And the next morning we came down and I was
sort of like, I don't want to gloat. I don't
want I'm just going to see what people are thinking.
And I will never forget the one man who was
(29:19):
with me, he said, we're just so worried because we
have a friend who's illegal and we know that in
the next few weeks they're going to come and they're
going to take him out of this country. And I
thought I had just seen the massive amount of deportations
that Obama had done when he was in office, and
the idea that this was something that getting people who
(29:40):
had come into this country illegally out of the country
and forcing people to come in legally was new was
just so shocking to me.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
They just had no idea.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
There's people were just so uneducated and something that was
important to Democrats was politically advantageous for them to change
their position and demonized. So did and it scared an
entire country full of people, even though it was something
they had done more of than anyone else. It's just
that's just how ghosts.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, I mean, they really are the Party of projection.
Everything that they try to accuse Republicans of, I mean
they are doing tenfold. And you know, you look at
everything from the improper law fair against President Trump and
other Republicans. And I thought Bobby Kennedy when he suspended
his campaign and dropped out, I thought he did a
really good job of basically using real world examples of
(30:28):
how the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Has just lost its way, right.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I mean, they are not about, you know, working for
the people anymore. They're all about preserving their power at
any cost, and they don't care who they have to
run over, including a Kennedy, one of the most storied
families that helped make the Democratic Party. I mean, what
they're willing to do is really kind of breathtaking and
really demonstrates the stakes involved in this election of why
(30:51):
we need to prevail, because we really do need to
to course correct on so many fronts so that we
can have a brighter future in America can be great again.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yes, yes, you are absolutely right, and I'm so glad
you were here to talk about it today.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Bill McGinley, thank you for joining me. Thank you so
much for having me absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
For this episode and others, go to tutordisonpodcast dot com
or the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get
your podcasts, and join us next time on the Tutor
Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Have a blessed day,
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