September 13, 2024 • 60 mins
Our idea for Trump. Two sets of rules. Captain Sam Brown, Nevada Senate candidate. Actor Kirk Cameron with a positive message for America.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Friday edition of Clay and Buck starts right now.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Very excited to be with all of you.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Can you feel it? Can you feel the heat? Can
you feel the tension? Can you feel the craziness out there?
As election season? It is all in now, my friends.
We are in the sprint phase. It's going to be
a frenzy on both sides. On the Trump side to
get out the truth and defeat communism on Kamala side,
to get out the lies and ruin America shorthand for
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what's going on with these campaigns. Much to discuss. We
also just to give you a little roadmap for where
we're heading. Sam Brown, Senate candidate in Nevada, very important
senate race there. We're going to talk to him later
on the program, probably third hour. And then actor Kirk
Cameron of Growing Pains fame. For those of us who
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grew up and watched Growing.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Pains, I was.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I all loved that show.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, Family Ties and Growing Pains were kind of like
that was my sweet spot for years when I was
a kid.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
So confession Buck, I also liked Who's the Boss? And
I used to have a big crush on Alyssa Milano
And we know that that's gone down.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
The Durrain really kind of a rough spot. Rough spot
for me.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Don't ever meet your heroes, man. I thought she was
great in that too, and then I interviewed her many
years later and she was an absolute nightmare. So just
putting it out there, we have, we have all that
to get to. Okay, let's start with the big news.
Then we'll get into some big ideas as well. We
have Trump saying that he is not going to debate again.
(01:32):
I think I said yesterday, Clay, I don't think he
will and I don't think he could. I didn't put
a bet on this one because I'm sick of having
to buy you expensive stakes. But or I guess we're
even we're even steven as of a few weeks from now.
But I decided that it was probably in Trump's best interest.
That seems to be I think, uh the move for
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him right now, given where the polls are and everything else.
I know, you want to dive into some internal reporting
at CNN about internal polling on the Kamala side of
things that is encouraging for Trump. Look, you've got people
that are coming out and saying at the election were
held today, Trump would win. You've got some others who
were saying if the election were held today, Kamala would win.
No surprise is there. Nobody really knows the answer, and
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nobody will know until election day. All Right, I feel
very strongly that Trump is ahead, but not by a lot.
I think he's ahead, but this is this is a
tight race, and it's gonna come into the final stretch
and uh yeah, I think that's Remember Claary, we were
at the Kentucky Derby. We had so much fun. We're
entering the phase where you know, the horses are running
and everyone's like, oh, the horses are running, and it's like, oh,
(02:39):
I think I saw them. And then when they get
into the final stretch because we were near the finish line,
everyone stands up and there's all that electricity and excitement.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's gonna be like that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, no one's getting lapped here, and the horses are
gonna be right on top of our.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Boss Julie Talbot from Kentucky took us to the finish
line of the Kentucky Derby and it was amazing for
those who did not know. And her husband Michael, and
that is where we are now. Full sprint for the
next fifty three days.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, the crowd is standing and at that last stretch
with the final final leg of the race happening right
in front of us. So that's where we are a
couple of big things.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Keep in mind.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
First off, the media, I really just think that their
strategy at this point is to run through the run
through the end of this taking as many hits and
shots as they have to on behalf of Kamala by
lying for her about things that are easily disprovable. I'll
get to one of those in a second. And we
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also have an idea that Clay and I were texting
about yesterday that we want to raise with you. Maybe
we've already raised it to the Trump campaign. Maybe we've
already said, hey, guys, here's a good idea. But I
think that the media, Clay knows that they're gonna have
to lie about a lot of things because Kamala's got huge,
huge vulnerabilities based on what she has been saying for Oh,
I don't know her entire life in public office. And
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here's one of them. This is a new Trump ad.
They said that she didn't after that debate, they said
Kamala didn't support transgender operations on illegal aliens in prison,
because that's quite a mouthful. Right, problem is, she did
here's this Trump ad play three.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He did things that nobody would ever think of.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Now she wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens
that are in prison.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
This is a radical left liberal.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Paris voice support for cutting funding for ICE and for
using taxpayer money to fund transgender surgery for detained migrants.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
In twenty nineteen, tax pair funded gender transition surgeries for
retainment change.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Ry actually said she supported.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
She wrote both wrote and answered in the affirmative when
she was asked, and she said she also supported it
for federal prisoners.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
These are things that you know, you would be hard
to think that you would come up with taxpayer funding
gender transitions for detained migrants.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
This is just a couple of her positions back then.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Clay there, I really just think that they're hoping to
continue to just take these shots and push through whatever
the damage to their credibility is what they don't care.
They've got to go all in for Kamala, even if
it means blowing up their credibility at every step.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
I do think buck this is where twitter x being
owned by Elon milk makes a big difference because I
don't know if you paid attention to this, but the
community notes section on Twitter has become very valuable because
people like Jamal Bowman, people like the New Yorker writer,
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a lot of them came out and said, hey, this
is a crazy thing that Trump said during the debate,
that Kamala Harris wants to provide sex change operations funded
by taxpayers for illegal immigrants in detention centers as well
as criminals.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And she actually did.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
And our friend Ryan Gerdusky was on CNN when Van
Jones tried to make excuses for Kamala Harris by saying, yeah,
you know, the whole Democrat Party kind of lost its
mind in the twenty twenty campaign, and Ryan shot back, Yeah,
BLM was the cause of all of it, but really
it was everybody was trying to get left of Bernie
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and left of Elizabeth Warren because that's how they thought
they ended up the nominee against Trump. And so Kamala
came out with all these crazy left wing propositions, and
unlike in twenty twenty, when it might have been stifled,
or when the and it's so important fact checkers might
have been given precedence. I saw buck I loved it.
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Is that the Seattle Post, whatever the main newspaper is
in Seattle, came out and said Trump lied about parts
of Seattle being taken over by protesters during twenty twenty,
and then Community Notes fact check the action rual Seattle
newspaper with an article from them about Chaz. I mean,
are they just going to pretend that didn't happen, the
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autonomous zone that was taken over in the center of
Seattle by protesters, and so the lies are getting recognized.
My question is, are the sort of swing voters who
are open to them seeing them? You and I are,
most of our listeners are. I think it's puncturing through
the bubble of left wing of the lies, but I'm
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not sure it certainly is doing more than in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So here's our idea, and we're hoping that some of
our friends from the Trump campaign who listen to the
show as often as they can, some almost every day,
as I understand it. Here's our idea. And I will
note that people have been saying this. This has been
percolating on x on Elon's platform. Trump should hold a
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town hall in Springfield Ohio, where we get to hear
from the residents of this town what's really going on.
They we get to have it presented for everybody to hear.
I don't want to hear David Muir say I called
the city manager. What does the city manager do?
Speaker 6 (08:13):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And why would he be honest?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
If he's trying to protect the city, why would he
say honestly anything that's true to your point?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, it's supposed to make sure there's.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No potholes, and like, you know, the electrical grid doesn't
go down or whatever, and you know, calls the utility company.
I mean, I don't know what a city manager in
Springfield's doing day to day, but I do know that
he is not omniscient and doesn't have the answers to
what has gone on everywhere. He's not the cops, Okay,
he's not somebody who's even on the front line seeing
what's happening. And I just think it's kind of funny that, oh, well,
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since you talk to the city manager, I guess we
have to think that everything's fine. In other words, a
city manager Democrat that anyone even find out do we
know it's a city.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What are the chances of Democrat pretty high. I'm not
saying he is.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Maybe he is.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Maybe is I think he is. Well there you go,
Oh what a shock. The city manager who's a Democrat.
He's probably a big tim wall. Anyway, I think that
we need to have Trump with the people of Springfield
having an open conversation. Remember if Fox News, that's the
obvious place for it to be house. Sorry, we're radio,
not video, so I have to seed this one. I
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would love it to be what yes.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Although if nobody else will do it, you and I
would go and host a town hall in Springfield with Trump.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
We would be happy to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm totally we totally doing That's actually a good idea.
I like where Clay's head is out. But anyway, someone
just needs to do it. Because here's here's what happens
now when when you have when you have this this
call it content reporting, whatever you want to say. When
it's out there now, it filters out throughout the rest
of the ecosystem, and it puts pressure on the legacy
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media that is carrying all of the water for the
Harris campaign right now to have to at least deal
with this reality because it can reach a critical mass
where if they don't address it, they're losing the messaging
war on it. We have to do this unfort all
the time they lie about Trump. We can't just let
the lie sit out there. We have to address it.
And you know the cycle is rinse, wash, and repeat
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every day. Clay, we both know that we're talking, we're
texting about this yesterday. If we get the people of
Springfield out there.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Now, I forget.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Everyone wants to make it about the dogs and the
cats living together, mass hysteria, whatever, That's not.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Even what I want to focus on.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What has happened to this town under Biden Harris's watch.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yes, that's it, and that's why I would go do it,
and I think for people out there. So Springfield is
emblematic of a lot of towns in America that had
a culture before the Biden Harris administration suddenly allowed in
ten million plus illegals and flew in an additional mass
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number of illegals under different amnesty provisions.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Remember we talked yesterday to the Congressman about this parole
program that I have brought up to you, Clay. They
are bringing people in under a FEMI reunification loophole. That's
supposed to be case by case, hundreds of thousands of
people here.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
And this is where I think is so important.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
They're gonna immediately say, oh, it's racist because you're focusing
on the community with Haitians things like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Let me just ask this question, Buck.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
If a town of fifty or sixty thousand in Japan
should suddenly got twenty thousand Germans shipped into that town,
do you think it would change the culture of that
town in Japan?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I would submit yes, and probably for the worst.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
If a town in Nigeria suddenly got twenty thousand Italians
shipped into it of fifty or sixty thousand, do you
think that would change the culture of the town and
be difficult?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yes. This is about.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Changing the culture of towns and how it is impacting
lives in a massive way, regardless of where the people
are from.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's a story that needs to be told.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's also about resources.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It's about people who are told by the government where
they live, you give us money, you pay your tolls
and your taxes and your and you obey our regulations
or else, and then they take that money. In the
case of say New York City, billions of dollars of
that money and they start giving it to people who
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are not supposed to be here. And what people in
the case of Springfield have known us as well is
there seems to be a prioritization going on of, oh, well,
we have to go above and beyond for the new arrivals.
There are poor Americans in Springfield. Yeah, there are poor
Americans who are white, black, Latino. They're already there and
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they're being told, yeah, you know, you may get cut
off from your Medicaid. But we got these Haitians that
have just arrived. We've got to go above and beyond
and do everything. We've got to subsidize their housing, we
got to give them EBT, give the clay. It's a
microcosm the point of Springfield. And this is why I
think it's so important. This is why I really think
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the Trump campaign needs to go. I don't tell them
what to do, but I really think this is a
good I agree right now. I think this really matters.
Springfield is a microcosm of what Biden Harris has done
to the country. In New York City, in Chicago, in
name a major city that has had a huge inflow
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of migrants, and see when it's smaller, it's more acute,
it's more obvious. You can sense greater this strain on
public resources. But it's no different in New York City.
It's just masked by the number of people.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Sounds like the Simpsons, But there is a Springfield in
every state in America right now, there is a community
like this that has been impacted. Which is why I
think the Trump team should go and have a town
hall and let all these citizens talk. Because remember Buck,
this story didn't start because of the Internet. It started
because of the citizens showing up at the council meeting
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discussing the challenges that are being wrought in this community.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You know what you'll see as well. We've seen these
videos they're circulating online. I guess you know, the legacy
media is going to tell us all these people are frauds.
They're Black Americans who live in Springfield who are like,
what's going on here, folks? Yes, there are there are
others as well, but I'm saying there are there are
black Americans who are saying, hey, this is my country.
Why isn't my government helping? Mean more, these people are
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new arrivals who really aren't even supposed to be here,
and then you get into the kind of this legal
gray area as a TPS. And but they're upset and
their videos are I'm not coming up with this on
my own. The videos are out there of them making
their case, including at that town hall meeting, and the
media just tells us it's all fake, there's nothing. All right, Well,
let's let's see. Let's see how this Andala and Kamala
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laughed about the whole thing. Kamala thinks the whole thing
is ridiculous. And it's in the Midwest where the election
is going to be decided. I think it feels a
bit to me like the Trained derailment, when Trump did
such a good job going to that community that Biden
was ignoring. I think this is that all over again,
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We didn't
play this for you yesterday, but the gall was so
staggering that I asked for the team to roll this
over to today. Yesterday, Merrick Garland was addressing the Department
of Justice their employees, and I actually watched this live.
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Fox News carried much of it, and it actually made
me want to puke because it was so transparently fake
everything that Attorney General Merrick Garland was saying. And I
hate that we're here. I honestly do. As a doubly
barred lawyer, I'm licensed in two different jurisdictions out there.
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I want for justice to be blind. I want for
the Department of Justice to apply the law fairly and
partially evenly. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight male female,
Republican Democrat independent. I want the law to be applied evenly.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
To me.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
We have never had a more biased Department of Justice
in my life than the one that we have right now.
And here is what Merrick Garland was saying. I just
want you to listen and remember the Department of Justice.
Robert Hurr actually found that Joe Biden willfully retain classified
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documents and the reason he said he shouldn't face criminal
charges is because his brain didn't work well enough for
there to be a conviction that happened. But Merrick Garland says,
there's no one rule that's different for friend or foes,
for the powerful and the powerless, for Democrats, and for
I mean, this is such a why listen to cut one.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We must treat like cases alike. There is not one
rule for friends and another for foes, one rule for
the powerful and another for the powerless, one rule for
the rich and another for the poor, one rule for
Democrats and another for Republicans, or different rules depending on
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one's race or ethnicity. To the contrary, we have only
one rule. We follow the facts and apply the law
in a way that respects the Constitution and protects civil liberties.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Missus Sarbak, I think media matters. Actually, if you had
an honest sit down, If I got to sit down
with Merrick Garland and actually hold his feet to the
fire a little bit, which is what I think media
should do, how can he remotely explain the difference if
all of what he just said was true. If I
played him that clip and said, okay, given that this
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is your standard explain why Joe Biden had no consequences
for his wilful retention of classified documents, and you tried
to put Donald Trump in prison for the rest of
his life and rated Mara a lago. And I don't think,
I mean, this is what an honest media should do.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
When I heard that, it made me sick to my
stomach because he just says that and it's totally not true.
But there is no holding his feet to the fire
and making him answer for why he's not living up
to the principles he claims to a spouse.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
There's no way to hold his feet to the fire, Clay,
because I think Merrick Garland, unfortunately is delusional. I think
he believes what he's saying there. I think that all
Democrats do really as a psychological defense mechanism, because what
they've done is so bad that they have to go
f they're in the direction against it, to try to
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make themselves feel like they haven't weaponized the law, which
is exactly what they have done. We could sit there
and say, oh, I don't know. For example, do you
really think it is just Merrick Garland to have nonviolent
January sixth defendants held in solitary confinement for I believe
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up to eighteen months before their trial. Okay, eighteen months
before trial. Do you think that that is just because
there's really a threat that they would come out of
that prison, sell and overthrow the government. Merrick Garland would
look you in the eyes and he would say, that
is what the system told us. That is what the career.
They always love that career. Prosecutors career this yeah, career communists.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, you know, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
But they fall back on the process and they act
like no one's actually made these decisions. I mean, could
Merrick Garland really defend you know, intellectually, could he defend
not only the senior DOJ figure who when to go
work in Bragg's office in New York.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Now that's a huge remotion at the Department of Justice
went back to a New York state court to prosecute Trump.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Not talked about a lot. It would never happen.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
It's like being a Major League baseball player and deciding
that you want to go play in Double A instead.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It's exactly what happened. And could he really defend the
prosecution of Donald Trump on a misdemeanor cobbled together in
a way that is explicitly against prosecutorial guidelines, which is
you're not supposed to try to find ways to charge
the same crime over and over again. You know, the
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perfect example of this is if you're going to charge
somebody for cocaine possession, you don't charge them for each
time they pass, you know, the cocaine between the two
of them, although theoretically you could try. That's exactly what
they did here at the Business Records. Yeah, and Andy
McCarthy explained this when he was on the show. I
think that's important. But also I don't know if you
saw this. Megan, Megan Kelly had on I was on.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Our show earlier this week. We had a good time.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Meghan had on Naval Rava Khan recently, who is a
super brilliant guy. I actually meant to text you some
clips from this play just to we're always like prepping
for show over the weekends. He's like at a baseball
game with his kids and I'm like, check out this clip.
I'm like, anyway, Naval Rava Khan is brilliant guy. Silicon Valley.
He was on our show and he just said that
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lawfair is the destruction of the republic I mean he
said that straight up. He said, if this is the
new game, if this is the way it goes, nothing
else really matters. Because whatever your election is, and whatever
your laws are, and whatever the Constitution says is irrelevant.
If people are going to operate in bad faith, who
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have the power to prosecute, which is the power to destroy.
And so he even said basically, anybody in Silicon Valley
who cheers on this stuff against Trump is dead to him,
Like He's like, because you are advocating for something that
will destroy this country and that will ruin everything that
has been built. I completely agree with him. Let me
just say yes, I think that that sentiment integral.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
And this also ties in with again, I think it's
important for you all to understand how much you're being
lied to by your own Department of Justice. Listen to
cut two buck, he says, we won't allow this Department
of Justice to be used as a political weapon. I
just I mean, you're trying to put the chief political
adversary of the sitting president in prison for the rest
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of his life. The lying is just overwhelming. Listen to
cut two Our.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Norms are a promise that we will fiercely protect the
independence of this department from political interference in our criminal investigations.
Our norms are a promise that we will not allow
this department to be used as a plolitical weapon, and
or norms are a promise that we will not allow
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this nation to become a country where law enforcement is
treated as an apparatus of politics.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Listen to everyone clapping for him. It is really like
I was watching it in that clapping that you just heard.
They went crazy when he made that comment, And look,
I wish it were true. But Buck, of all of
the offices out there, I think if Trump wins, who
he picks his attorney general is actually the most important
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decision he has to make.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
A critical decision.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He needs somebody who is.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Both aligned with the constitutional and maga maga mission and
understands how to operate the unwieldy device that is the
Department of Justice. But Clay, you know, if you if
you look just you know at history, so many times
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this plays out where the most aggressive I mean, you
could look at this is certainly the case with Hitler
in World War Two. It's the case with Stalin. You know,
whenever he was invading any anytime, somebody is the aggressor.
They they come up with a narrative of themselves as
the victim, because then that creates this basis for I'm
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not doing the bad thing, I'm doing the good thing.
And in the same way that you know Stalin sending
in tank somewhere because of the oppression of like Russian
speaking people there or you know whatever. It may be, right,
the the the the capitalist the capitalist swine of America
influencing some Uh, you have this with the DOJ here
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and Merrick Garland. They're weaponizing the DOJ. And what they're
telling themselves and everybody else is they would never weaponize
the DJ And they're the ones who are upholding the
rule of law in the Constitution without political favor, you
know what I mean. It's yeah, they're the aggressors and
they act like they're the victims, or they're the they're
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the bad guys and they act like they're the good guys.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
This is important because a lot of what Trump gets
called on for fact checking and lying is hyperbolic perspective
that is actually right directionally. And let me explain what
I mean by that, because I think it really kind
of boils down to what you just said. What Merret
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Garland is saying is the exact opposite of what he's doing.
It is directionally a lie, but he's able to say it,
and the media is like, oh, yes, of course. What
Trump gets called on frequently is he'll say something like
like he's out in Los Angeles and I just saw
a quote where he came out and he said, our
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Trump golf course in Los Angeles is the best golf
course anywhere in LA and anywhere in California. It's far
better than Pebble Beach, and the revenue proves it. And
then somebody will come out and they'll say, well, actually,
Pebble Beach makes you know, twenty million dollars more a
year than I'm just tossing out numbers than Pebble Beach,
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than the Trump's course in LA. And therefore Trump is
lying about this. It's like, well, he's actually just saying
the course is really good, and he's speaking like it's
the most beautiful, it's the most spectacular, it's the most profitable.
They go after him where he's very often correct on
a minor detail associated with the general trajectory he's on,
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and sometimes I would argue he's undisciplined to allow those attacks.
But meanwhile, what the merit garlands of the world buck
are saying is far more significant and far more dishonest,
because what they're saying is the exact opposite of what
they're doing. In other words, Trump like, we built two
thousand amazing walls, and they're like, actually it was you know,
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you rebuilt fifteen hundred and you only built four hundred
miles of walls or whatever. But his goal is the
intent and the right one, whereas democrats are lying to
you about what their intent is and doing the exact opposite,
which is a far more pernicious thing to be doing.
And that is the essence to me of what the
Kamala campaign.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
When Trump says, my crowd size are the biggest ever,
oh yeah, maybe he gets a little caught up in himself.
When Obama said, if you like your healthcare plan, you
could keep your health care plan, that was a nasty
lie that hurt lots and lots of people.
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Speaker 1 (30:27):
We are joined by Captain Sam Brown. He is running
for Senate in Nevada, a critical Senate race. He is
a combat veteran, a Purpleheart recipient, got a new book
out as well a live day. Captain Brown, I honored
to have you on the program, sir, first time I'm
get a chance to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
It's great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
And look, if I may just for a moment, you
guys are doing a terrific job promoting this segment. I
got a text for my mother saying, son, I hear
you're going to be on the show today, So mother
out there. I love you. You took care of me
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for six months after I was wounded, and I just
want you to know that I am the man I
am today in large part because of your your love
and support.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Captain Brad If I can just say, first off, your
mother sounds like an amazing mom and a great American
and she also has phenomenal taste in radio.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So we're off to a very strong.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
You appreciate her listening and being aware and also having
done a fabulous job as a mom, as our own
moms did. But your story is a compelling one. Buck
you want to dive right back in here.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, Sam, I want to give you the opportunity to
just tell everybody about your story a bit and set
the table before we dive right into the thick of
your critical senate race in Nevada swing state. But what
does everyone what should everyone know about how you got
to where you are today and why you're running for senate?
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Yeah, it started with parents that that loved this country
and instilled that in me as a child. And so look,
I'm of the generation I called, you know, the post
nine to eleven generation. I was a senior in high
school when our country was attacked and I had gone
through the process applying to military academies, and before the
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end of two thousand and one, I got accepted to
West Point and reported there in July of O two
and that kind of put me on the trajectory where
I ended up, you know, commissioning as an infantry officer
serving in Afghanistan. You know, just the greatest you know,
honor and privilege of my life was to be entrusted
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with you know, those those men, uh and on mission
for this country. And in two thousand and eight, another
unit had been ambushed. They needed support, and we were
the closest ones to it. And you know, I still
believe that when you've got Americans under fire or under threat,
the right responses to run to the sound of the
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guns and go provide that support. And that's what we did,
and unfortunately hit a roadside bomb in the process, but
you know it, Uh, it left one of my soldiers
killed and four of us wounded. But here, here's the
here's the thing I guess I want people to know,
and in part why I'm here, the greatest lesson I
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ever learned in my life didn't come from a from
a former president, didn't come from you know, a commanding general.
It came from one of my soldiers, a young man
from South Texas. As I was burning there, laying in
the desert and getting the point where I knew I
couldn't put the flames out myself, and I didn't know
if anyone else was going to get to me. I
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was wrestling with the thoughts of how long is he
going to take to burn to death? What's the transition
from this left and the NeXT's going to be like?
And I gave up the will to live. And in
that next moment, I heard the voice of one of
my soldiers and he screamed out, sir, I've got you,
and it gave me a little spark of hope. But
his words weren't And if he just stood away in
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safety and screamed out I've got you and didn't bring
himself to me through the fire and begin to put
out the flames, then I would have died. But he
did come to me. It was his actions that actually
saved my life. And look, I've detailed that story and
(34:22):
kind of the rest of my life in this book
that I just released last week on the sixteenth anniversary
of my Live Day. It's called A Live Day. Anyone
can get it on Amazon. But that moment has propelled
me to where I'm at today, and I believe that
America is hurting. There's a lot of people that are
in that moment of crisis in their life, and we've
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got people who will just call out, like you know,
I've got you, but won't do anything about it. My
book is about it's not a political book. It's about
giving people hope who are desperate to just survive. And
in my book is sharing that story that message, and
me running for the Senate is me following through. I'm
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doing more than just talking but taking action.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown and that story you
just told us is incredibly compelling, and I want to
go back to it for a moment. You said in
that moment you were thinking how long does it take
to burn to death? I can't even imagine what a
feeling like that would be. But as you are now
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running for the Senate, I would imagine that whatever can
be said about you when you have stared down death
as you did, it can't really come close to really
kind of getting to you. What do you think that
moment has meant for your ability to serve Nevada and
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still continue to serve your country. I guess that connection
to me is really compelling. Take us into that worldview if.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
You could, absolutely so, so when you're when you're teetering
at that moment, and I literally I gave up the
will to list because that's what's going to be relief
from what I was at and and so to survive,
you know, this kind of this miraculous way. I've never
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lacked conviction that my life was spared for a reason.
And so you know, this was this was kind of
my my point of really finding faith in God. And
and that has that that went from being kind of
just I head knowledge. I call it, you know, acknowledging
you know, historical facts and becoming something that I really
truly believe in my heart. And but I believe that's
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true for everyone, that we're all here for a purpose
and a reason. Uh. And and that experience in the
three years that followut, I mean, my recovery took three years.
I was in and out of the High hospital over
thirty surgeries. It was grueling, and that was just the
beginning of the rest of my life. But it steeled me,
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it hardened me for just such a time as this.
And we all have the option in life. Are we
going to engage, are we going to use the talents
we have or the endurance we've built for a for
a higher purpose, and having come through that, I never
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lack conviction. And if anything, the you know, the the
circumstances that we find ourselves in just gives me additional
conviction and helps me dig in even more and in
my pursuit of trying to serve others who who frankly
need a champion.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
We're speaking to Captain Sam Brown, who is running in Nevada,
telling us about his story. His book is A Live Day, Sam,
you are. I mean, it's an amazing story, and this audience,
you know, in particular appreciates it. A lot of current
or former military and a lot of military families listening in.
(38:11):
You're stepping into the arena. You're in the arena right now,
running against an entrenched democrat in Nevada. It is always
uphill going against a democrat. I wanted you to tell
everybody how this race is shaping up so far, and
what the differences are between the leadership that you would
bring the United States Senate versus your opponent, Jackie Rosen.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Yeah. So most of the listeners, because they're you know,
politically attuned, are going to be familiar with the name
Harry Reid, and so you know, Jackie Rosen is her
start point is Harry Reid. She was a protege of
his and even though he's dead now, you know, his
legacy still lives on and he created, you know, somewhat
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of a machine here that brought her into the Senate
in twenty eighteen. She had served one term in the
House starting in twenty sixteen, but she's really been absent
from the state and as you can imagine, someone who
didn't have to really work hard and create her own
path to representing the people of Nevada, she's just well
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conditioned to follow leadership, whether it's Chuck Schumer or Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris. She has been just a follower
along the way. Now, the impact that it's had here
in the state is we've got the second highest unemployment
rate in the nation, We've got the second highest energy
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costs in the nation, and people have been really economically
hurt by this. She also sits on the Homeland Security Committee,
a committee in a position where she got to be
able to push back, bring accountability, provide oversight on the
border crisis. And yet when President Trump was still in office.
She she tried to slow roll and pushed back on
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his initiatives and under you know, Kamala Harris, as the
borders are in Joe Biden's leadership, She's done nothing to
bring accountability there. My offer to the folks is quite
the opposite. We we do need someone who understands the
hardships of these economic policies. Look, here's an interesting contrast.
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Six years ago, while she was running for Senate as
a congresswoman, I was working in an Amazon warehouse. I
know what it's like to work hard, you know, a
ten hour shift to be able to afford just just enough. Today.
You know, I'm a successful businessman. I had started a
business over these last six years. But you know, things
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are still tight for my family, just like a lot
of Novadas. I bring that perspective, and that's what we
need to someone who understands the impact of the policies
and can lead on them.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown. You're going to be
with President Trump later today in Nevada, which is a
battleground state for people out there that are listening to
us right now. We know the Senate race in twenty
twenty two came down to a razor's edge. I would
imagine that you're polling and your data shows that the
whole state of Nevada is going to come down to
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a couple of thousand votes one way or the other.
In all sincerity, how can people help you? What do
you see on the ground and what are you expecting
with this rally that Trump is going to have with
you later this afternoon, this evening.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
Yeah, people are hungry for leadership. And you're right. Just
two years ago it was the closest Senate race in
the nation. It was a razor's edge. We're standing polling
kind of shaping up like that again. But we've got
additional things in our favor. The reasons that race was
lost last cycle was we had Republicans not turning out.
There's over one hundred thousand Republicans that just didn't come
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out to vote. And so we've got to get everyone
committed to voting and and you know, being involved to
the extent they can. People can go to Captain Sam
Brown dot com to contribute from across the nation, But
if you live in Nevada, you know people in Nevada.
At the end of the day, it's not who raises
the most money that wins. That's who has the most
votes that wins, and our polling is showing that it's
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very close. But we're we're pushing into into, you know,
groups of independents who haven't traditionally voted for Republicans, and
Republicans haven't really pursued. But I believe that, you know,
sort of a business philosophy, anyone can be a customer,
any voter can any any registered voter out there could
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vote for me. I need to go make the taste.
We've been doing that and we've seen the polls really
tighten up and we're right within the margin of error.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Now, outstanding stuff, Captain Sam Brown. If we were in Nevada,
we'd be voting for you. We know your mom is
thank her for listening. But we would also encourage everybody
out there in the state of Nevada get out work.
If you can afford, go donate at Captain Sam Brown
dot com. Tell President Trump we said hi, and have
a great event this evening.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
Well, dude, thank you both, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
And thank you for your service.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Sam, no doubt, I mean that was an incredibly compelling
story from him. I'd encourage you guys to go check
out that book. But man, if you have the opportunity
and you're listening to us in Nevada right now, are
you kidding me? I mean, this is a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
And you just.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Heard about Purple Heart recipient deployed to Afghanistan to fight
the war on Terror. You just heard Captain Sam Brown
tell his story twenty three years ago. This week, first
responders in and around New York City, Washington, d c.
Race to save the lives of those trapped in the
Twin Towers and at risk and the Pentagon. Since that moment,
Tunnel to Towers Foundation was created to provide relief and
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support to the surviving families of those men and women
lost in the line of duty, victims and first responders
still suffering and dying from nine to eleven right now,
Yet children in this nation are growing up unaware of
America's darkest day. The Tunnel to Towers Nine to Eleven
Institute is helping educators teach children about nine to eleven,
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one of many efforts this organization does as part of
their promise to never forget. Let me interject here for
just to sec two, I showed my kids. If you
haven't seen it. The Man in the Red Bandana. It's
an incredible nine to eleven story that ESPN did about
a former lacrosse player who was saving people's lives on
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nine to eleven in the World Trade Center Towers, the
South Tower to be specific. It's a thirteen minute show,
little interview and segment that they did a story. I
showed it to my boys this week on nine to eleven.
If you got young kids and they haven't experienced nine
to eleven and you just want to show them one
(45:04):
particular story, maybe they like sports like mine. Do let
me give a shout out to the Man in the
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Siller does. So many people out there that are incredible
saviors of our freedom and our ability to live in
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Speaker 7 (45:45):
Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do
a lot of it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay
and Buck as they laugh it up in the Klay
and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever
you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
You know, it's been a pretty heavy week and things
are getting a little tense out there with the news
cycle so focused on politics, and you know, Kamala wins
at maybe the end of the republic and the greatest
experiment in human freedom in history. But you know what
I mean, Like, we're gonna keep fighting and we're gonna
keep our heads high. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
(46:20):
stay positive no matter what I do think Trump's gonna win.
But put that aside for a second, put aside the
partisan stuff for a second year. To send you off
into the weekend with some positive vibes. As the gen
Z would say, Actor Kirk Cameron is with us now.
He's here to uplift us, inspire us. He's got a
new book, Born to Be Brave, How to be part
(46:41):
of America's spiritual comeback. Kirk, take it away, man, make
everybody feel like it's all gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
So what a setup.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
I'm so I'm sorry, glad. I'm glad I came in
right now.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
It actually is the most exciting time I can think
of to be alive in the last hundred years. I mean,
the darkness is so it is so opaque, that light
is so easy to see. All people have to do
is turn it on. And I'm telling you honestly and
truly with all of my heart. As I travel the
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country and I'm reading books of virtue and character to
children at public libraries, contra drag queens, story hours and
political corruption and economic collapse and moral sewage, I'm finding
thousands and thousands of parents and grandparents and kids coming
out of the woodwork to be a part of a
movement that will amplify light and light some brush fires
(47:35):
of freedom and virtue and fan them to spread them
like wildfire across the country.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
People are waking up.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
I feel the rumblings of a great awakening, and I
can't wait to see what's going to happen over the
next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
I love the enthusiasm, Kirk. I just saw it.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Not pie in the sky, by and by optimism. This
is stake on the plate reality that I see and
that I believe with all of my heart.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yeah, Clay speaking a steak on the blake, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I was just wanting you to know.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
No, I know, I've just got to buy Clay expensive
steak soon in like a week.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
That's what that made the board decision that he thought
Joe Biden was going to stay in the race, and
I said, of course not, He's going to drop out.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
But Kirk, I saw you. What night was it? Monday
night at.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
The Ami Racist premiere for Matt Walsh's new film. And
you have now moved to my hometown of Nashville.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Welcome.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
It's you had to add new Tennesseeans. But I want
to also congratulate you. You have six kids of your own,
but you just became a grandfather. Yes, what is the
experience like you obviously have had a bunch of kids already.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
What does it feel like to be a grandfather.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
It's thrilling, it's exciting, It's it's an exciting experience to
have kids. Now when you have a grandfather, it's it's
definitely next level. I've heard that my whole life, and
now I'm experiencing it. I mean, she's got cheeks for weeks.
She's already a Bills fan. She's part of the mafia.
She was stressed out before the game the other day
and she just crashed when the whole thing was done.
We are loving being grandparents. My wife and I are
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just just over the moon.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
It is cool and welcome. Like I said to Nashville,
tell us about this book. So you have written a
bunch of children's books now for people out there who
have been grew up basically watching you. Now you've gone
from I would say teen idol on growing Pains to
now a grandpa. What has that trajectory of your life
(49:32):
been like and at what point did you decide, hey,
I really want to kind of focus on telling stories
to younger kids.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Well, I'm so, I'm so excited that I made it
this far. I'm now a grandfather.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
You know I didn't. I didn't pass.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Away in my youth like a like a like a
teenage actor who just got so strung out on which happens.
Speaker 6 (49:52):
In the time.
Speaker 5 (49:53):
Honestly, there's not very many that grow up, have six kids,
have one wife and become a grandkid who were a grandfather,
who were popstar.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
So I mean that is a rare pathway. That is
a blessing that I'm so grateful for. And yes, I
wrote this book that you're speaking of. It's called Born
to Be Brave. I have been spending the last couple
of years writing children's books and reading them to three
to five year olds to teach them things like the
fruit of the spirit, love, kindness, faithfulness, self control, and humility,
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contra drag queens, teaching them about pride and self empowerment
rather than self control. And finding myself inundated by parents
who say that they feel silenced and marginalized, afraid, they're
not sure what to do, and then they throw some
of them throw a religious element into it and say,
but that's the way the Bible says it's supposed to be.
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It's just gonna get worse and there's really nothing we
can do about it, and I go time out. No,
I think that's totally misplaced. That hopelessness is found nowhere
in the history of the family of Faith, or the
scriptures or what I'm seeing right now. And I realized,
I need to put gas in the tank of the parents.
I need to put win in the sales of the grandparents,
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the people who actually understand why this is the greatest
country in the world, so that they can have the
bravery encourage to get our kids to a place of
blessing and protection and teach them the things that we
are losing in this country. It's nice to hear a
sense of optimism about how the battle for spirituality or
(51:27):
the spiritual battle is playing out in this country and
that I guess the good guys and gals can win here.
I mean you're mentioning obviously, the book, I assume is
a bit of a template or some encouragement perhaps you know,
coaching from the sidelines here for how people can get
more involved in these battles themselves, or just give them
(51:47):
a framework, a template for doing it. The book is
Born to be Brave, how to be a part of
America's spiritual comeback. And so, as a new grandparent, I
got to say, you know, you've got a lot of
grandparents listening right now.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
I feel like the older I.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Get, the more wisdom I feel comes from the older
generation in a lot of ways. I'll be honest with you.
How does that play into the spiritual comeback? Yeah, many
grandparents feel like, well, I did my time and I've
had my opportunity to make a difference.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
No, no, no, no, you're just getting started.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
If you are somebody who loves God, loves your family,
and loves this country, listen, don't get bitter when you
watch the news.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Get better.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Don't be a whiner, be a winner, don't complain about
the culture. Create the culture. You have, the time, you have,
the opportunity with the next generation. They need you pour
into them. That's what I need to be doing. Let
me ask you this question, Clay, what if the current
cultural setback is really a divine setup for a spiritual
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comeback led by the family of faith. What if the
political corruption, the moral collapse, the economic decline, the spiritual
apathy is really a wake up call for those of
us who know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
We've been red pilled. We see what's happening.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
The promises of the enemy are turning out to be fake,
and now it's our time to red pill everybody else.
But we've got to do it the right way. The
only way out of the matrix. First of all, is
to start with a heart of humility and love. And
then we've got to speak the truth with boldness and
with courage, Starting with myself, my family, and then work
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our way out through our communities, to the state and
to the local level. And I believe that if we
lean into this bravery and courage that God has given
his faithful followers, we can and we will realign the
nation with biblical, constitutional American values. It's happened before it
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can happen again. It's called a great awakening, and.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
We're due for one. That was really well said, Kirk.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
And given your background in Hollywood, I have a question
for you. I just mentioned we saw the Ami Racist
premiere Matt Walsh's documentary.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Such a great movie should be required viewing for every American.
Speaker 5 (54:14):
I thought it was fantastic. He's going to be on
with us Monday. But it seems to me, and I'm
curious if you feel this based on your background, that
even in Hollywood. I was reading in the Wall Street
Journal magazine about they're making an HBO. I think it
was series about the biblical David. There certainly has been
(54:36):
a lot, it feels to me, whether it's the Sound
of Freedom, whether it's so many different movies out there,
ordinary angels that came out. I believe the Irwin brothers
are involved in those films who are also located to
a large degree here in Nashville. Do you sense that
Hollywood is recognizing that there is a great cultural hunger
(54:59):
for stories such as these, and that that is allowing
people to maybe connect their emptiness inside with recognizing where
it's coming from. Am I crazy? Or is that starting
to happen even from the cultural perspective?
Speaker 1 (55:12):
From what you see, I feel exactly what you're feeling,
and I see what you see, And what I believe
is that Hollywood has been ripping off the Biblical narrative
since the very beginning. They have wisely recognized the stories
that resonate most violently with the human hearts in a
good way. Stories of redemption, the hero's journey. You see
(55:34):
it in every Marvel movie, in every Batman movie. You
see it everywhere. And it's the against all odds, when
all hope seems lost, story when the underdog undergoes a
transformation and comes back from the impossible to win the day.
(55:54):
And it's in Lord of the Rings, it's in Narnia,
it's everywhere. And that's why I try to make the
movies that I make, the books that I write, and
the cartoons and children's programs that I'm producing. So that's
why people need to go see movies like that, the
movies you just talked about, Sound of Freedom, or the
Kendricks Brothers new movie that's out called The Forge, about
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men mentoring and discipling the younger generation of men to
give them a sense of identity and purpose and destiny.
And that's why I want people to get this book
I wrote, Born to Be Brave, because when we support
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Speaker 7 (57:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
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Speaker 3 (58:09):
Thank you.
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Kirk.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
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Appreciate both of you, guys.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
Thanks so much, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
Need a break from politics, a little comedy to counter
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Friday edition of Clay and Buck starts right now.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Very excited to be with all of you.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Can you feel it? Can you feel the heat? Can
you feel the tension? Can you feel the craziness out there?
As election season? It is all in now, my friends.
We are in the sprint phase. It's going to be
a frenzy on both sides. On the Trump side to
get out the truth and defeat communism on Kamala side,
to get out the lies and ruin America shorthand for
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what's going on with these campaigns. Much to discuss. We
also just to give you a little roadmap for where
we're heading. Sam Brown, Senate candidate in Nevada, very important
senate race there. We're going to talk to him later
on the program, probably third hour. And then actor Kirk
Cameron of Growing Pains fame. For those of us who
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grew up and watched Growing.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Pains, I was.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I all loved that show.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, Family Ties and Growing Pains were kind of like
that was my sweet spot for years when I was
a kid.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
So confession Buck, I also liked Who's the Boss? And
I used to have a big crush on Alyssa Milano
And we know that that's gone down.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
The Durrain really kind of a rough spot. Rough spot
for me.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Don't ever meet your heroes, man. I thought she was
great in that too, and then I interviewed her many
years later and she was an absolute nightmare. So just
putting it out there, we have, we have all that
to get to. Okay, let's start with the big news.
Then we'll get into some big ideas as well. We
have Trump saying that he is not going to debate again.
(01:32):
I think I said yesterday, Clay, I don't think he
will and I don't think he could. I didn't put
a bet on this one because I'm sick of having
to buy you expensive stakes. But or I guess we're
even we're even steven as of a few weeks from now.
But I decided that it was probably in Trump's best interest.
That seems to be I think, uh the move for
(01:54):
him right now, given where the polls are and everything else.
I know, you want to dive into some internal reporting
at CNN about internal polling on the Kamala side of
things that is encouraging for Trump. Look, you've got people
that are coming out and saying at the election were
held today, Trump would win. You've got some others who
were saying if the election were held today, Kamala would win.
No surprise is there. Nobody really knows the answer, and
(02:17):
nobody will know until election day. All Right, I feel
very strongly that Trump is ahead, but not by a lot.
I think he's ahead, but this is this is a
tight race, and it's gonna come into the final stretch
and uh yeah, I think that's Remember Claary, we were
at the Kentucky Derby. We had so much fun. We're
entering the phase where you know, the horses are running
and everyone's like, oh, the horses are running, and it's like, oh,
(02:39):
I think I saw them. And then when they get
into the final stretch because we were near the finish line,
everyone stands up and there's all that electricity and excitement.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's gonna be like that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, no one's getting lapped here, and the horses are
gonna be right on top of our.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Boss Julie Talbot from Kentucky took us to the finish
line of the Kentucky Derby and it was amazing for
those who did not know. And her husband Michael, and
that is where we are now. Full sprint for the
next fifty three days.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, the crowd is standing and at that last stretch
with the final final leg of the race happening right
in front of us. So that's where we are a
couple of big things.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Keep in mind.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
First off, the media, I really just think that their
strategy at this point is to run through the run
through the end of this taking as many hits and
shots as they have to on behalf of Kamala by
lying for her about things that are easily disprovable. I'll
get to one of those in a second. And we
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also have an idea that Clay and I were texting
about yesterday that we want to raise with you. Maybe
we've already raised it to the Trump campaign. Maybe we've
already said, hey, guys, here's a good idea. But I
think that the media, Clay knows that they're gonna have
to lie about a lot of things because Kamala's got huge,
huge vulnerabilities based on what she has been saying for Oh,
I don't know her entire life in public office. And
(04:00):
here's one of them. This is a new Trump ad.
They said that she didn't after that debate, they said
Kamala didn't support transgender operations on illegal aliens in prison,
because that's quite a mouthful. Right, problem is, she did
here's this Trump ad play three.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He did things that nobody would ever think of.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Now she wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens
that are in prison.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
This is a radical left liberal.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Paris voice support for cutting funding for ICE and for
using taxpayer money to fund transgender surgery for detained migrants.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
In twenty nineteen, tax pair funded gender transition surgeries for
retainment change.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Ry actually said she supported.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
She wrote both wrote and answered in the affirmative when
she was asked, and she said she also supported it
for federal prisoners.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
These are things that you know, you would be hard
to think that you would come up with taxpayer funding
gender transitions for detained migrants.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
This is just a couple of her positions back then.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Clay there, I really just think that they're hoping to
continue to just take these shots and push through whatever
the damage to their credibility is what they don't care.
They've got to go all in for Kamala, even if
it means blowing up their credibility at every step.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
I do think buck this is where twitter x being
owned by Elon milk makes a big difference because I
don't know if you paid attention to this, but the
community notes section on Twitter has become very valuable because
people like Jamal Bowman, people like the New Yorker writer,
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a lot of them came out and said, hey, this
is a crazy thing that Trump said during the debate,
that Kamala Harris wants to provide sex change operations funded
by taxpayers for illegal immigrants in detention centers as well
as criminals.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And she actually did.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
And our friend Ryan Gerdusky was on CNN when Van
Jones tried to make excuses for Kamala Harris by saying, yeah,
you know, the whole Democrat Party kind of lost its
mind in the twenty twenty campaign, and Ryan shot back, Yeah,
BLM was the cause of all of it, but really
it was everybody was trying to get left of Bernie
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and left of Elizabeth Warren because that's how they thought
they ended up the nominee against Trump. And so Kamala
came out with all these crazy left wing propositions, and
unlike in twenty twenty, when it might have been stifled,
or when the and it's so important fact checkers might
have been given precedence. I saw buck I loved it.
(06:45):
Is that the Seattle Post, whatever the main newspaper is
in Seattle, came out and said Trump lied about parts
of Seattle being taken over by protesters during twenty twenty,
and then Community Notes fact check the action rual Seattle
newspaper with an article from them about Chaz. I mean,
are they just going to pretend that didn't happen, the
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autonomous zone that was taken over in the center of
Seattle by protesters, and so the lies are getting recognized.
My question is, are the sort of swing voters who
are open to them seeing them? You and I are,
most of our listeners are. I think it's puncturing through
the bubble of left wing of the lies, but I'm
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not sure it certainly is doing more than in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So here's our idea, and we're hoping that some of
our friends from the Trump campaign who listen to the
show as often as they can, some almost every day,
as I understand it. Here's our idea. And I will
note that people have been saying this. This has been
percolating on x on Elon's platform. Trump should hold a
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town hall in Springfield Ohio, where we get to hear
from the residents of this town what's really going on.
They we get to have it presented for everybody to hear.
I don't want to hear David Muir say I called
the city manager. What does the city manager do?
Speaker 6 (08:13):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And why would he be honest?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
If he's trying to protect the city, why would he
say honestly anything that's true to your point?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, it's supposed to make sure there's.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No potholes, and like, you know, the electrical grid doesn't
go down or whatever, and you know, calls the utility company.
I mean, I don't know what a city manager in
Springfield's doing day to day, but I do know that
he is not omniscient and doesn't have the answers to
what has gone on everywhere. He's not the cops, Okay,
he's not somebody who's even on the front line seeing
what's happening. And I just think it's kind of funny that, oh, well,
(08:42):
since you talk to the city manager, I guess we
have to think that everything's fine. In other words, a
city manager Democrat that anyone even find out do we
know it's a city.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What are the chances of Democrat pretty high. I'm not
saying he is.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Maybe he is.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Maybe is I think he is. Well there you go,
Oh what a shock. The city manager who's a Democrat.
He's probably a big tim wall. Anyway, I think that
we need to have Trump with the people of Springfield
having an open conversation. Remember if Fox News, that's the
obvious place for it to be house. Sorry, we're radio,
not video, so I have to seed this one. I
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would love it to be what yes.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Although if nobody else will do it, you and I
would go and host a town hall in Springfield with Trump.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
We would be happy to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm totally we totally doing That's actually a good idea.
I like where Clay's head is out. But anyway, someone
just needs to do it. Because here's here's what happens
now when when you have when you have this this
call it content reporting, whatever you want to say. When
it's out there now, it filters out throughout the rest
of the ecosystem, and it puts pressure on the legacy
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media that is carrying all of the water for the
Harris campaign right now to have to at least deal
with this reality because it can reach a critical mass
where if they don't address it, they're losing the messaging
war on it. We have to do this unfort all
the time they lie about Trump. We can't just let
the lie sit out there. We have to address it.
And you know the cycle is rinse, wash, and repeat
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every day. Clay, we both know that we're talking, we're
texting about this yesterday. If we get the people of
Springfield out there.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Now, I forget.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Everyone wants to make it about the dogs and the
cats living together, mass hysteria, whatever, That's not.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Even what I want to focus on.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What has happened to this town under Biden Harris's watch.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yes, that's it, and that's why I would go do it,
and I think for people out there. So Springfield is
emblematic of a lot of towns in America that had
a culture before the Biden Harris administration suddenly allowed in
ten million plus illegals and flew in an additional mass
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number of illegals under different amnesty provisions.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Remember we talked yesterday to the Congressman about this parole
program that I have brought up to you, Clay. They
are bringing people in under a FEMI reunification loophole. That's
supposed to be case by case, hundreds of thousands of
people here.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
And this is where I think is so important.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
They're gonna immediately say, oh, it's racist because you're focusing
on the community with Haitians things like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Let me just ask this question, Buck.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
If a town of fifty or sixty thousand in Japan
should suddenly got twenty thousand Germans shipped into that town,
do you think it would change the culture of that
town in Japan?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I would submit yes, and probably for the worst.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
If a town in Nigeria suddenly got twenty thousand Italians
shipped into it of fifty or sixty thousand, do you
think that would change the culture of the town and
be difficult?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yes. This is about.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Changing the culture of towns and how it is impacting
lives in a massive way, regardless of where the people
are from.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's a story that needs to be told.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's also about resources.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It's about people who are told by the government where
they live, you give us money, you pay your tolls
and your taxes and your and you obey our regulations
or else, and then they take that money. In the
case of say New York City, billions of dollars of
that money and they start giving it to people who
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are not supposed to be here. And what people in
the case of Springfield have known us as well is
there seems to be a prioritization going on of, oh, well,
we have to go above and beyond for the new arrivals.
There are poor Americans in Springfield. Yeah, there are poor
Americans who are white, black, Latino. They're already there and
(12:38):
they're being told, yeah, you know, you may get cut
off from your Medicaid. But we got these Haitians that
have just arrived. We've got to go above and beyond
and do everything. We've got to subsidize their housing, we
got to give them EBT, give the clay. It's a
microcosm the point of Springfield. And this is why I
think it's so important. This is why I really think
(12:58):
the Trump campaign needs to go. I don't tell them
what to do, but I really think this is a
good I agree right now. I think this really matters.
Springfield is a microcosm of what Biden Harris has done
to the country. In New York City, in Chicago, in
name a major city that has had a huge inflow
(13:19):
of migrants, and see when it's smaller, it's more acute,
it's more obvious. You can sense greater this strain on
public resources. But it's no different in New York City.
It's just masked by the number of people.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Sounds like the Simpsons, But there is a Springfield in
every state in America right now, there is a community
like this that has been impacted. Which is why I
think the Trump team should go and have a town
hall and let all these citizens talk. Because remember Buck,
this story didn't start because of the Internet. It started
because of the citizens showing up at the council meeting
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discussing the challenges that are being wrought in this community.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You know what you'll see as well. We've seen these
videos they're circulating online. I guess you know, the legacy
media is going to tell us all these people are frauds.
They're Black Americans who live in Springfield who are like,
what's going on here, folks? Yes, there are there are
others as well, but I'm saying there are there are
black Americans who are saying, hey, this is my country.
Why isn't my government helping? Mean more, these people are
(14:21):
new arrivals who really aren't even supposed to be here,
and then you get into the kind of this legal
gray area as a TPS. And but they're upset and
their videos are I'm not coming up with this on
my own. The videos are out there of them making
their case, including at that town hall meeting, and the
media just tells us it's all fake, there's nothing. All right, Well,
let's let's see. Let's see how this Andala and Kamala
(14:44):
laughed about the whole thing. Kamala thinks the whole thing
is ridiculous. And it's in the Midwest where the election
is going to be decided. I think it feels a
bit to me like the Trained derailment, when Trump did
such a good job going to that community that Biden
was ignoring. I think this is that all over again,
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Speaker 5 (16:31):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We didn't
play this for you yesterday, but the gall was so
staggering that I asked for the team to roll this
over to today. Yesterday, Merrick Garland was addressing the Department
of Justice their employees, and I actually watched this live.
(16:53):
Fox News carried much of it, and it actually made
me want to puke because it was so transparently fake
everything that Attorney General Merrick Garland was saying. And I
hate that we're here. I honestly do. As a doubly
barred lawyer, I'm licensed in two different jurisdictions out there.
(17:16):
I want for justice to be blind. I want for
the Department of Justice to apply the law fairly and
partially evenly. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight male female,
Republican Democrat independent. I want the law to be applied evenly.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
To me.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
We have never had a more biased Department of Justice
in my life than the one that we have right now.
And here is what Merrick Garland was saying. I just
want you to listen and remember the Department of Justice.
Robert Hurr actually found that Joe Biden willfully retain classified
(17:55):
documents and the reason he said he shouldn't face criminal
charges is because his brain didn't work well enough for
there to be a conviction that happened. But Merrick Garland says,
there's no one rule that's different for friend or foes,
for the powerful and the powerless, for Democrats, and for
I mean, this is such a why listen to cut one.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We must treat like cases alike. There is not one
rule for friends and another for foes, one rule for
the powerful and another for the powerless, one rule for
the rich and another for the poor, one rule for
Democrats and another for Republicans, or different rules depending on
(18:35):
one's race or ethnicity. To the contrary, we have only
one rule. We follow the facts and apply the law
in a way that respects the Constitution and protects civil liberties.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Missus Sarbak, I think media matters. Actually, if you had
an honest sit down, If I got to sit down
with Merrick Garland and actually hold his feet to the
fire a little bit, which is what I think media
should do, how can he remotely explain the difference if
all of what he just said was true. If I
played him that clip and said, okay, given that this
(19:10):
is your standard explain why Joe Biden had no consequences
for his wilful retention of classified documents, and you tried
to put Donald Trump in prison for the rest of
his life and rated Mara a lago. And I don't think,
I mean, this is what an honest media should do.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
When I heard that, it made me sick to my
stomach because he just says that and it's totally not true.
But there is no holding his feet to the fire
and making him answer for why he's not living up
to the principles he claims to a spouse.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
There's no way to hold his feet to the fire, Clay,
because I think Merrick Garland, unfortunately is delusional. I think
he believes what he's saying there. I think that all
Democrats do really as a psychological defense mechanism, because what
they've done is so bad that they have to go
f they're in the direction against it, to try to
(20:03):
make themselves feel like they haven't weaponized the law, which
is exactly what they have done. We could sit there
and say, oh, I don't know. For example, do you
really think it is just Merrick Garland to have nonviolent
January sixth defendants held in solitary confinement for I believe
(20:26):
up to eighteen months before their trial. Okay, eighteen months
before trial. Do you think that that is just because
there's really a threat that they would come out of
that prison, sell and overthrow the government. Merrick Garland would
look you in the eyes and he would say, that
is what the system told us. That is what the career.
They always love that career. Prosecutors career this yeah, career communists.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, you know, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
But they fall back on the process and they act
like no one's actually made these decisions. I mean, could
Merrick Garland really defend you know, intellectually, could he defend
not only the senior DOJ figure who when to go
work in Bragg's office in New York.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Now that's a huge remotion at the Department of Justice
went back to a New York state court to prosecute Trump.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Not talked about a lot. It would never happen.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
It's like being a Major League baseball player and deciding
that you want to go play in Double A instead.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It's exactly what happened. And could he really defend the
prosecution of Donald Trump on a misdemeanor cobbled together in
a way that is explicitly against prosecutorial guidelines, which is
you're not supposed to try to find ways to charge
the same crime over and over again. You know, the
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perfect example of this is if you're going to charge
somebody for cocaine possession, you don't charge them for each
time they pass, you know, the cocaine between the two
of them, although theoretically you could try. That's exactly what
they did here at the Business Records. Yeah, and Andy
McCarthy explained this when he was on the show. I
think that's important. But also I don't know if you
saw this. Megan, Megan Kelly had on I was on.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Our show earlier this week. We had a good time.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Meghan had on Naval Rava Khan recently, who is a
super brilliant guy. I actually meant to text you some
clips from this play just to we're always like prepping
for show over the weekends. He's like at a baseball
game with his kids and I'm like, check out this clip.
I'm like, anyway, Naval Rava Khan is brilliant guy. Silicon Valley.
He was on our show and he just said that
(22:32):
lawfair is the destruction of the republic I mean he
said that straight up. He said, if this is the
new game, if this is the way it goes, nothing
else really matters. Because whatever your election is, and whatever
your laws are, and whatever the Constitution says is irrelevant.
If people are going to operate in bad faith, who
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have the power to prosecute, which is the power to destroy.
And so he even said basically, anybody in Silicon Valley
who cheers on this stuff against Trump is dead to him,
Like He's like, because you are advocating for something that
will destroy this country and that will ruin everything that
has been built. I completely agree with him. Let me
just say yes, I think that that sentiment integral.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
And this also ties in with again, I think it's
important for you all to understand how much you're being
lied to by your own Department of Justice. Listen to
cut two buck, he says, we won't allow this Department
of Justice to be used as a political weapon. I
just I mean, you're trying to put the chief political
adversary of the sitting president in prison for the rest
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of his life. The lying is just overwhelming. Listen to
cut two Our.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Norms are a promise that we will fiercely protect the
independence of this department from political interference in our criminal investigations.
Our norms are a promise that we will not allow
this department to be used as a plolitical weapon, and
or norms are a promise that we will not allow
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this nation to become a country where law enforcement is
treated as an apparatus of politics.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Listen to everyone clapping for him. It is really like
I was watching it in that clapping that you just heard.
They went crazy when he made that comment, And look,
I wish it were true. But Buck, of all of
the offices out there, I think if Trump wins, who
he picks his attorney general is actually the most important
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decision he has to make.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
A critical decision.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He needs somebody who is.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Both aligned with the constitutional and maga maga mission and
understands how to operate the unwieldy device that is the
Department of Justice. But Clay, you know, if you if
you look just you know at history, so many times
(25:05):
this plays out where the most aggressive I mean, you
could look at this is certainly the case with Hitler
in World War Two. It's the case with Stalin. You know,
whenever he was invading any anytime, somebody is the aggressor.
They they come up with a narrative of themselves as
the victim, because then that creates this basis for I'm
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not doing the bad thing, I'm doing the good thing.
And in the same way that you know Stalin sending
in tank somewhere because of the oppression of like Russian
speaking people there or you know whatever. It may be, right,
the the the the capitalist the capitalist swine of America
influencing some Uh, you have this with the DOJ here
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and Merrick Garland. They're weaponizing the DOJ. And what they're
telling themselves and everybody else is they would never weaponize
the DJ And they're the ones who are upholding the
rule of law in the Constitution without political favor, you
know what I mean. It's yeah, they're the aggressors and
they act like they're the victims, or they're the they're
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the bad guys and they act like they're the good guys.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
This is important because a lot of what Trump gets
called on for fact checking and lying is hyperbolic perspective
that is actually right directionally. And let me explain what
I mean by that, because I think it really kind
of boils down to what you just said. What Merret
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Garland is saying is the exact opposite of what he's doing.
It is directionally a lie, but he's able to say it,
and the media is like, oh, yes, of course. What
Trump gets called on frequently is he'll say something like
like he's out in Los Angeles and I just saw
a quote where he came out and he said, our
(26:55):
Trump golf course in Los Angeles is the best golf
course anywhere in LA and anywhere in California. It's far
better than Pebble Beach, and the revenue proves it. And
then somebody will come out and they'll say, well, actually,
Pebble Beach makes you know, twenty million dollars more a
year than I'm just tossing out numbers than Pebble Beach,
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than the Trump's course in LA. And therefore Trump is
lying about this. It's like, well, he's actually just saying
the course is really good, and he's speaking like it's
the most beautiful, it's the most spectacular, it's the most profitable.
They go after him where he's very often correct on
a minor detail associated with the general trajectory he's on,
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and sometimes I would argue he's undisciplined to allow those attacks.
But meanwhile, what the merit garlands of the world buck
are saying is far more significant and far more dishonest,
because what they're saying is the exact opposite of what
they're doing. In other words, Trump like, we built two
thousand amazing walls, and they're like, actually it was you know,
(27:59):
you rebuilt fifteen hundred and you only built four hundred
miles of walls or whatever. But his goal is the
intent and the right one, whereas democrats are lying to
you about what their intent is and doing the exact opposite,
which is a far more pernicious thing to be doing.
And that is the essence to me of what the
Kamala campaign.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
When Trump says, my crowd size are the biggest ever,
oh yeah, maybe he gets a little caught up in himself.
When Obama said, if you like your healthcare plan, you
could keep your health care plan, that was a nasty
lie that hurt lots and lots of people.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
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out there. It's also why much of the fact checking
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Keep up with Clay and Bucks campaign coverage with twenty
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on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
We are joined by Captain Sam Brown. He is running
for Senate in Nevada, a critical Senate race. He is
a combat veteran, a Purpleheart recipient, got a new book
out as well a live day. Captain Brown, I honored
to have you on the program, sir, first time I'm
get a chance to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
It's great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
And look, if I may just for a moment, you
guys are doing a terrific job promoting this segment. I
got a text for my mother saying, son, I hear
you're going to be on the show today, So mother
out there. I love you. You took care of me
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for six months after I was wounded, and I just
want you to know that I am the man I
am today in large part because of your your love
and support.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Captain Brad If I can just say, first off, your
mother sounds like an amazing mom and a great American
and she also has phenomenal taste in radio.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So we're off to a very strong.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
You appreciate her listening and being aware and also having
done a fabulous job as a mom, as our own
moms did. But your story is a compelling one. Buck
you want to dive right back in here.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, Sam, I want to give you the opportunity to
just tell everybody about your story a bit and set
the table before we dive right into the thick of
your critical senate race in Nevada swing state. But what
does everyone what should everyone know about how you got
to where you are today and why you're running for senate?
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Yeah, it started with parents that that loved this country
and instilled that in me as a child. And so look,
I'm of the generation I called, you know, the post
nine to eleven generation. I was a senior in high
school when our country was attacked and I had gone
through the process applying to military academies, and before the
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end of two thousand and one, I got accepted to
West Point and reported there in July of O two
and that kind of put me on the trajectory where
I ended up, you know, commissioning as an infantry officer
serving in Afghanistan. You know, just the greatest you know,
honor and privilege of my life was to be entrusted
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with you know, those those men, uh and on mission
for this country. And in two thousand and eight, another
unit had been ambushed. They needed support, and we were
the closest ones to it. And you know, I still
believe that when you've got Americans under fire or under threat,
the right responses to run to the sound of the
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guns and go provide that support. And that's what we did,
and unfortunately hit a roadside bomb in the process, but
you know it, Uh, it left one of my soldiers
killed and four of us wounded. But here, here's the
here's the thing I guess I want people to know,
and in part why I'm here, the greatest lesson I
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ever learned in my life didn't come from a from
a former president, didn't come from you know, a commanding general.
It came from one of my soldiers, a young man
from South Texas. As I was burning there, laying in
the desert and getting the point where I knew I
couldn't put the flames out myself, and I didn't know
if anyone else was going to get to me. I
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was wrestling with the thoughts of how long is he
going to take to burn to death? What's the transition
from this left and the NeXT's going to be like?
And I gave up the will to live. And in
that next moment, I heard the voice of one of
my soldiers and he screamed out, sir, I've got you,
and it gave me a little spark of hope. But
his words weren't And if he just stood away in
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safety and screamed out I've got you and didn't bring
himself to me through the fire and begin to put
out the flames, then I would have died. But he
did come to me. It was his actions that actually
saved my life. And look, I've detailed that story and
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kind of the rest of my life in this book
that I just released last week on the sixteenth anniversary
of my Live Day. It's called A Live Day. Anyone
can get it on Amazon. But that moment has propelled
me to where I'm at today, and I believe that
America is hurting. There's a lot of people that are
in that moment of crisis in their life, and we've
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got people who will just call out, like you know,
I've got you, but won't do anything about it. My
book is about it's not a political book. It's about
giving people hope who are desperate to just survive. And
in my book is sharing that story that message, and
me running for the Senate is me following through. I'm
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doing more than just talking but taking action.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown and that story you
just told us is incredibly compelling, and I want to
go back to it for a moment. You said in
that moment you were thinking how long does it take
to burn to death? I can't even imagine what a
feeling like that would be. But as you are now
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running for the Senate, I would imagine that whatever can
be said about you when you have stared down death
as you did, it can't really come close to really
kind of getting to you. What do you think that
moment has meant for your ability to serve Nevada and
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still continue to serve your country. I guess that connection
to me is really compelling. Take us into that worldview if.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
You could, absolutely so, so when you're when you're teetering
at that moment, and I literally I gave up the
will to list because that's what's going to be relief
from what I was at and and so to survive,
you know, this kind of this miraculous way. I've never
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lacked conviction that my life was spared for a reason.
And so you know, this was this was kind of
my my point of really finding faith in God. And
and that has that that went from being kind of
just I head knowledge. I call it, you know, acknowledging
you know, historical facts and becoming something that I really
truly believe in my heart. And but I believe that's
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true for everyone, that we're all here for a purpose
and a reason. Uh. And and that experience in the
three years that followut, I mean, my recovery took three years.
I was in and out of the High hospital over
thirty surgeries. It was grueling, and that was just the
beginning of the rest of my life. But it steeled me,
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it hardened me for just such a time as this.
And we all have the option in life. Are we
going to engage, are we going to use the talents
we have or the endurance we've built for a for
a higher purpose, and having come through that, I never
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lack conviction. And if anything, the you know, the the
circumstances that we find ourselves in just gives me additional
conviction and helps me dig in even more and in
my pursuit of trying to serve others who who frankly
need a champion.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
We're speaking to Captain Sam Brown, who is running in Nevada,
telling us about his story. His book is A Live Day, Sam,
you are. I mean, it's an amazing story, and this audience,
you know, in particular appreciates it. A lot of current
or former military and a lot of military families listening in.
(38:11):
You're stepping into the arena. You're in the arena right now,
running against an entrenched democrat in Nevada. It is always
uphill going against a democrat. I wanted you to tell
everybody how this race is shaping up so far, and
what the differences are between the leadership that you would
bring the United States Senate versus your opponent, Jackie Rosen.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Yeah. So most of the listeners, because they're you know,
politically attuned, are going to be familiar with the name
Harry Reid, and so you know, Jackie Rosen is her
start point is Harry Reid. She was a protege of
his and even though he's dead now, you know, his
legacy still lives on and he created, you know, somewhat
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of a machine here that brought her into the Senate
in twenty eighteen. She had served one term in the
House starting in twenty sixteen, but she's really been absent
from the state and as you can imagine, someone who
didn't have to really work hard and create her own
path to representing the people of Nevada, she's just well
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conditioned to follow leadership, whether it's Chuck Schumer or Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris. She has been just a follower
along the way. Now, the impact that it's had here
in the state is we've got the second highest unemployment
rate in the nation, We've got the second highest energy
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costs in the nation, and people have been really economically
hurt by this. She also sits on the Homeland Security Committee,
a committee in a position where she got to be
able to push back, bring accountability, provide oversight on the
border crisis. And yet when President Trump was still in office.
She she tried to slow roll and pushed back on
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his initiatives and under you know, Kamala Harris, as the
borders are in Joe Biden's leadership, She's done nothing to
bring accountability there. My offer to the folks is quite
the opposite. We we do need someone who understands the
hardships of these economic policies. Look, here's an interesting contrast.
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Six years ago, while she was running for Senate as
a congresswoman, I was working in an Amazon warehouse. I
know what it's like to work hard, you know, a
ten hour shift to be able to afford just just enough. Today.
You know, I'm a successful businessman. I had started a
business over these last six years. But you know, things
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are still tight for my family, just like a lot
of Novadas. I bring that perspective, and that's what we
need to someone who understands the impact of the policies
and can lead on them.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
We're talking to Captain Sam Brown. You're going to be
with President Trump later today in Nevada, which is a
battleground state for people out there that are listening to
us right now. We know the Senate race in twenty
twenty two came down to a razor's edge. I would
imagine that you're polling and your data shows that the
whole state of Nevada is going to come down to
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a couple of thousand votes one way or the other.
In all sincerity, how can people help you? What do
you see on the ground and what are you expecting
with this rally that Trump is going to have with
you later this afternoon, this evening.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
Yeah, people are hungry for leadership. And you're right. Just
two years ago it was the closest Senate race in
the nation. It was a razor's edge. We're standing polling
kind of shaping up like that again. But we've got
additional things in our favor. The reasons that race was
lost last cycle was we had Republicans not turning out.
There's over one hundred thousand Republicans that just didn't come
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out to vote. And so we've got to get everyone
committed to voting and and you know, being involved to
the extent they can. People can go to Captain Sam
Brown dot com to contribute from across the nation, But
if you live in Nevada, you know people in Nevada.
At the end of the day, it's not who raises
the most money that wins. That's who has the most
votes that wins, and our polling is showing that it's
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very close. But we're we're pushing into into, you know,
groups of independents who haven't traditionally voted for Republicans, and
Republicans haven't really pursued. But I believe that, you know,
sort of a business philosophy, anyone can be a customer,
any voter can any any registered voter out there could
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vote for me. I need to go make the taste.
We've been doing that and we've seen the polls really
tighten up and we're right within the margin of error.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Now, outstanding stuff, Captain Sam Brown. If we were in Nevada,
we'd be voting for you. We know your mom is
thank her for listening. But we would also encourage everybody
out there in the state of Nevada get out work.
If you can afford, go donate at Captain Sam Brown
dot com. Tell President Trump we said hi, and have
a great event this evening.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
Well, dude, thank you both, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
And thank you for your service.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Sam, no doubt, I mean that was an incredibly compelling
story from him. I'd encourage you guys to go check
out that book. But man, if you have the opportunity
and you're listening to us in Nevada right now, are
you kidding me? I mean, this is a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
And you just.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Heard about Purple Heart recipient deployed to Afghanistan to fight
the war on Terror. You just heard Captain Sam Brown
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one of many efforts this organization does as part of
their promise to never forget. Let me interject here for
just to sec two, I showed my kids. If you
haven't seen it. The Man in the Red Bandana. It's
an incredible nine to eleven story that ESPN did about
a former lacrosse player who was saving people's lives on
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nine to eleven in the World Trade Center Towers, the
South Tower to be specific. It's a thirteen minute show,
little interview and segment that they did a story. I
showed it to my boys this week on nine to eleven.
If you got young kids and they haven't experienced nine
to eleven and you just want to show them one
(45:04):
particular story, maybe they like sports like mine. Do let
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Speaker 7 (45:45):
Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do
a lot of it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay
and Buck as they laugh it up in the Klay
and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever
you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
You know, it's been a pretty heavy week and things
are getting a little tense out there with the news
cycle so focused on politics, and you know, Kamala wins
at maybe the end of the republic and the greatest
experiment in human freedom in history. But you know what
I mean, Like, we're gonna keep fighting and we're gonna
keep our heads high. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
(46:20):
stay positive no matter what I do think Trump's gonna win.
But put that aside for a second, put aside the
partisan stuff for a second year. To send you off
into the weekend with some positive vibes. As the gen
Z would say, Actor Kirk Cameron is with us now.
He's here to uplift us, inspire us. He's got a
new book, Born to Be Brave, How to be part
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of America's spiritual comeback. Kirk, take it away, man, make
everybody feel like it's all gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
So what a setup.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
I'm so I'm sorry, glad. I'm glad I came in
right now.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
It actually is the most exciting time I can think
of to be alive in the last hundred years. I mean,
the darkness is so it is so opaque, that light
is so easy to see. All people have to do
is turn it on. And I'm telling you honestly and
truly with all of my heart. As I travel the
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country and I'm reading books of virtue and character to
children at public libraries, contra drag queens, story hours and
political corruption and economic collapse and moral sewage, I'm finding
thousands and thousands of parents and grandparents and kids coming
out of the woodwork to be a part of a
movement that will amplify light and light some brush fires
(47:35):
of freedom and virtue and fan them to spread them
like wildfire across the country.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
People are waking up.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
I feel the rumblings of a great awakening, and I
can't wait to see what's going to happen over the
next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
I love the enthusiasm, Kirk. I just saw it.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Not pie in the sky, by and by optimism. This
is stake on the plate reality that I see and
that I believe with all of my heart.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yeah, Clay speaking a steak on the blake, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I was just wanting you to know.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
No, I know, I've just got to buy Clay expensive
steak soon in like a week.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
That's what that made the board decision that he thought
Joe Biden was going to stay in the race, and
I said, of course not, He's going to drop out.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
But Kirk, I saw you. What night was it? Monday
night at.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
The Ami Racist premiere for Matt Walsh's new film. And
you have now moved to my hometown of Nashville.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Welcome.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
It's you had to add new Tennesseeans. But I want
to also congratulate you. You have six kids of your own,
but you just became a grandfather. Yes, what is the
experience like you obviously have had a bunch of kids already.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
What does it feel like to be a grandfather.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
It's thrilling, it's exciting, It's it's an exciting experience to
have kids. Now when you have a grandfather, it's it's
definitely next level. I've heard that my whole life, and
now I'm experiencing it. I mean, she's got cheeks for weeks.
She's already a Bills fan. She's part of the mafia.
She was stressed out before the game the other day
and she just crashed when the whole thing was done.
We are loving being grandparents. My wife and I are
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just just over the moon.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
It is cool and welcome. Like I said to Nashville,
tell us about this book. So you have written a
bunch of children's books now for people out there who
have been grew up basically watching you. Now you've gone
from I would say teen idol on growing Pains to
now a grandpa. What has that trajectory of your life
(49:32):
been like and at what point did you decide, hey,
I really want to kind of focus on telling stories
to younger kids.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Well, I'm so, I'm so excited that I made it
this far. I'm now a grandfather.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
You know I didn't. I didn't pass.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Away in my youth like a like a like a
teenage actor who just got so strung out on which happens.
Speaker 6 (49:52):
In the time.
Speaker 5 (49:53):
Honestly, there's not very many that grow up, have six kids,
have one wife and become a grandkid who were a grandfather,
who were popstar.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
So I mean that is a rare pathway. That is
a blessing that I'm so grateful for. And yes, I
wrote this book that you're speaking of. It's called Born
to Be Brave. I have been spending the last couple
of years writing children's books and reading them to three
to five year olds to teach them things like the
fruit of the spirit, love, kindness, faithfulness, self control, and humility,
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contra drag queens, teaching them about pride and self empowerment
rather than self control. And finding myself inundated by parents
who say that they feel silenced and marginalized, afraid, they're
not sure what to do, and then they throw some
of them throw a religious element into it and say,
but that's the way the Bible says it's supposed to be.
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It's just gonna get worse and there's really nothing we
can do about it, and I go time out. No,
I think that's totally misplaced. That hopelessness is found nowhere
in the history of the family of Faith, or the
scriptures or what I'm seeing right now. And I realized,
I need to put gas in the tank of the parents.
I need to put win in the sales of the grandparents,
(51:03):
the people who actually understand why this is the greatest
country in the world, so that they can have the
bravery encourage to get our kids to a place of
blessing and protection and teach them the things that we
are losing in this country. It's nice to hear a
sense of optimism about how the battle for spirituality or
(51:27):
the spiritual battle is playing out in this country and
that I guess the good guys and gals can win here.
I mean you're mentioning obviously, the book, I assume is
a bit of a template or some encouragement perhaps you know,
coaching from the sidelines here for how people can get
more involved in these battles themselves, or just give them
(51:47):
a framework, a template for doing it. The book is
Born to be Brave, how to be a part of
America's spiritual comeback. And so, as a new grandparent, I
got to say, you know, you've got a lot of
grandparents listening right now.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
I feel like the older I.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Get, the more wisdom I feel comes from the older
generation in a lot of ways. I'll be honest with you.
How does that play into the spiritual comeback? Yeah, many
grandparents feel like, well, I did my time and I've
had my opportunity to make a difference.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
No, no, no, no, you're just getting started.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
If you are somebody who loves God, loves your family,
and loves this country, listen, don't get bitter when you
watch the news.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Get better.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Don't be a whiner, be a winner, don't complain about
the culture. Create the culture. You have, the time, you have,
the opportunity with the next generation. They need you pour
into them. That's what I need to be doing. Let
me ask you this question, Clay, what if the current
cultural setback is really a divine setup for a spiritual
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comeback led by the family of faith. What if the
political corruption, the moral collapse, the economic decline, the spiritual
apathy is really a wake up call for those of
us who know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
We've been red pilled. We see what's happening.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
The promises of the enemy are turning out to be fake,
and now it's our time to red pill everybody else.
But we've got to do it the right way. The
only way out of the matrix. First of all, is
to start with a heart of humility and love. And
then we've got to speak the truth with boldness and
with courage, Starting with myself, my family, and then work
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our way out through our communities, to the state and
to the local level. And I believe that if we
lean into this bravery and courage that God has given
his faithful followers, we can and we will realign the
nation with biblical, constitutional American values. It's happened before it
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can happen again. It's called a great awakening, and.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
We're due for one. That was really well said, Kirk.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
And given your background in Hollywood, I have a question
for you. I just mentioned we saw the Ami Racist
premiere Matt Walsh's documentary.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Such a great movie should be required viewing for every American.
Speaker 5 (54:14):
I thought it was fantastic. He's going to be on
with us Monday. But it seems to me, and I'm
curious if you feel this based on your background, that
even in Hollywood. I was reading in the Wall Street
Journal magazine about they're making an HBO. I think it
was series about the biblical David. There certainly has been
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a lot, it feels to me, whether it's the Sound
of Freedom, whether it's so many different movies out there,
ordinary angels that came out. I believe the Irwin brothers
are involved in those films who are also located to
a large degree here in Nashville. Do you sense that
Hollywood is recognizing that there is a great cultural hunger
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for stories such as these, and that that is allowing
people to maybe connect their emptiness inside with recognizing where
it's coming from. Am I crazy? Or is that starting
to happen even from the cultural perspective?
Speaker 1 (55:12):
From what you see, I feel exactly what you're feeling,
and I see what you see, And what I believe
is that Hollywood has been ripping off the Biblical narrative
since the very beginning. They have wisely recognized the stories
that resonate most violently with the human hearts in a
good way. Stories of redemption, the hero's journey. You see
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it in every Marvel movie, in every Batman movie. You
see it everywhere. And it's the against all odds, when
all hope seems lost, story when the underdog undergoes a
transformation and comes back from the impossible to win the day.
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And it's in Lord of the Rings, it's in Narnia,
it's everywhere. And that's why I try to make the
movies that I make, the books that I write, and
the cartoons and children's programs that I'm producing. So that's
why people need to go see movies like that, the
movies you just talked about, Sound of Freedom, or the
Kendricks Brothers new movie that's out called The Forge, about
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men mentoring and discipling the younger generation of men to
give them a sense of identity and purpose and destiny.
And that's why I want people to get this book
I wrote, Born to Be Brave, because when we support
projects like this, when we listen to radio stations like yours,
what does that do? Not only does it equip us
and educate us and open our eyes so we can
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do something, it then sends massive financial shock waves to
the industry and blows open the doors. So we have
more radio stations like yours, We have more books like
Born to Be Brave, We have more movies like The
Passion of the Christ or Sound of Freedom or whatever
it is to combat the evil and begin to turn
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the tide of the culture.
Speaker 7 (57:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Remember, a tiny vocal minority group with.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
Ridiculous ideas that are fake and lies have managed to
transform what is normal today. Think of what we could
do if we got a plan, work together and our
cause was just.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
I feeling I so can I can I ask.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Here's what I'd love more than anything. This is the
first book that I've ever written for adults, and I
want more than anything to write more books like this,
And I want all of my friends, who are better
authors than I am, to write more books like this.
And the way that we can do that is if
this makes it to whatever the numbers are, to put
me on the New York.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Times bestseller list.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
That sends a message to the publishing industry that America
wants more about about a spiritual comeback in America, a
reviving of American first principles that leads to our blessing
and protection. And then you can flood the market with
that kind of stuff. I don't want it to be fringe.
I want it to be mainstream. Spiritual comeback plus capitalism.
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You're in the right place there you go.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, good court cameraon Everybody, Born to Be Brave. How
to be a part of America's spiritual comeback? Check out
your copy of it.
Speaker 6 (58:16):
Kirk.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
Always great to have you man, We'll see you soon.
Appreciate both of you, guys.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
Thanks so much, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
You know there's a nonprofit that is dedicated. No matter
what's going on in the news cycle, all the noise
out there, all the politics, day in and day out,
they are working to do something that is so important,
saving the lives of unborn babies. Preborn is the name
of this organization. They've got a team that's nationwide, working
in clinics and communities and neighborhoods where there are very
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high abortion rates, but that's where they can go to
save the most lives. Over the course of the last
twenty years, they've saved three hundred thousand unborn babies. Preborn's
network of clinics does this by first providing counseling and
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when mom sees that tiny baby on the screen, sees
the heart beating, it's just so much easier for her
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to make the choice for life. I've met some of
these women, I've been to a preborn clinic. I've seen
myself the incredible and divine experience of watching these teams
save lives day in and day out. They need your help,
though they need funding. They can't do this alone. An
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If you can donate that amount, that would be so
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Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
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