September 15, 2024 • 47 mins
Actor Kirk Camerson with a powerful message. 80’s and 90’s nostalgia. Hey, Tay, most of the country can’t just “shake it off” when it comes to the economy. Buck’s bum knee.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bold reverence and occasionally random the Sunday Hang with Clay
and Buck podcast, and it starts now, you.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Know, it's been a pretty heavy week and things are
getting a little tense out there with the news cycle
so focused on politics, and you know, Kamala wins at
maybe the end of the republic and the greatest experiment
in human freedom in history. But you know what I mean, like,
we're gonna keep fighting and we're gonna keep our heads high.
We're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna stay positive no matter
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what I do think Trump's gonna win. But put that
aside for a second, put aside the partisan stuff for
a second year. To send you off into the weekend
with some positive vibes. As the gen Z would say,
Actor Kirk Cameron is with us now. He's here to
uplift us, inspire us. He's got a new book, Born
to Be Brave, How to be part of America's spiritual comeback. Kirk,
(00:55):
take it away, man, make everybody feel like it's all
gonna be all right.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Sir, What a boy.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I'm I'm sorry, glad, I'm glad I came in right now.
It actually is the most exciting time I can think
of to be alive in the last hundred years. I mean,
the darkness is so it is so opaque that light
is so easy to see. All people have to do
is turn it on. And I'm telling you honestly and
truly with all of my heart. As I travel the
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country and I'm reading books of virtue and character to
children at public libraries, contra drag queens, story hours and
political corruption and economic collapse and moral sewage, I'm finding
thousands and thousands of parents and grandparents and kids coming
out of the woodwork to be a part of a
movement that will amplify light and light some brush fires
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of freedom and virtue and fan them to spread them
like wildfire across the country. People are waking up. I
feel the rumblings of a great awakening, and I can't
wait to see what's going to happen over the next
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I love the husiasm, Kirk.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I just saw it, not pie in the sky by
and by optimism. This is steak on the plate, reality
that I see and that I believe with all of
my heart.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, Clay speaking a steak on the plate, But it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I was just wanting you No, I know, I've just
got to buy clay expensive steak soon in like a week.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
That's what that would make.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
The board decision that he thought Joe Biden was going
to stay in the race, and I said, of course not,
He's going to drop out. But Kirk, I saw you.
What night was it? Monday night at the Ami Racist
premiere for Matt Walsh's new film. And you have now
moved to my hometown of Nashville. Welcome, It's all you
had to add New Tennesseeans. But I want to also
congratulate you. You have six kids of your own, but
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you just became a grandfather. Yes, what is the experience
like you obviously have had a bunch of kids already.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
What does it feel like to be a grandfather. It's thrilling,
it's exciting. It's it's an exciting experience to have kids.
Now when you when you have a grandfather, it's it's
definitely next level. I've heard that my whole life, and
now I'm experiencing it. I mean, she's got cheeks for weeks.
She's already a Bills fan, She's part of the mafia.
She was stressed out before the game. The other day
and she just crashed when the whole thing was done.
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We are loving being grandparents. My wife and I are
just just over the moon.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It is super cool and welcome. Like I said to Nashville,
tell us about this book. So you have written a
bunch of children's books now for people out there who
have been grew up basically watching you. Now you've gone
from I would say teen idol on Growing Pains to
now a grandpa. What has that trajectory of your life
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been like and at what point did you decide, Hey,
I really want to kind of focus on telling stories
to younger kids.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Well, I'm so, I'm so excited that I made it
this far. I'm now a grandfather. You know, I didn't
pass away in my youth like a like a like
a teenage actor who just got so strung out on
which happens.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Honestly, there's not very many that grow up, have six kids,
have one wife and become a grandkid who were a
grandfather who were pop stars.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
So I mean that is a rare pathway. That is
a blessing that I'm so grateful for. And yes, I
wrote this book that you're speaking of. It's called Born
to Be brave. I have been spending the last couple
of years writing children's books and reading them to three
to five year olds to teach them things like the
fruit of the spirit, love, kindness, faithfulness, self control, and humility,
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contra drag queens, teaching them about pride and self empowerment
rather than self control and finding myself inundated by parents
who say that they feel silenced and marginalized, afraid, they're
not sure what to do, and then they throw some
of them throw a religious element into it and say,
but that's the way the Bible says it's supposed to be.
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It's just gonna get worse and there's really nothing we
can do about it. And I go time out. No,
I think that's totally misplaced. That hopelessness is found nowhere
in the history of the Family of Faith, or the
scriptures or what I'm seeing right now. And I realized,
I need to put gas in the tank of the parents.
I need to put win in the sales of the grandparents,
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the people who actually understand why this is the greatest
country in the world, so that they can have the
bravery encourage to get our kids to a place of
blessing and protection. And teach them the things that we
are losing in this country.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It's nice to hear a sense of optimism about how
the battle for spirituality or the spiritual battle is playing
out in this country, and that I guess the good
guys and gals can win here. I mean you're mentioning obviously,
the book, I assume is a bit of a template
or some encouragement perhaps you know, coaching from the sidelines
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here for how people can get more involved in these
battles themselves, or just give them a framework, a template
for doing it.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
The book is Born to be.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Brave, how to be a part of America's spiritual comeback.
And so, as a new grandparent, I got to say,
you know, you've got a lot of grandparents listening right now.
I feel like the older I get, the more wisdom
I feel comes from the older generation in a lot
of ways. I'll be honest with you. How does that
play into the spiritual comeback?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yeah, many grandparents feel like, well, I did my time,
and I've had my opportunity to make a difference. No, no, no, no,
you're just getting started. If you are somebody who loves God,
loves your family, and loves this country. Listen, don't get
bitter when you watch the news. Get better. Don't be
a whiner, be a winner, don't complain about the culture.
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Create the culture you have, the time, you have, the
opportunity with the next generation. They need you pour into them.
That's what I need to be doing. Let me ask
you this question, Clay, what if the current cultural setback
is really a divine setup for a spiritual comeback led
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by the family of faith. What if the political corruption,
the moral collapse, the economic decline, the spiritual apathy is
really a wake up call for those of us who
know exactly what's going on. We've been red pilled. We
see what's happening. The promises of the enemy are turning
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out to be fake. And now it's our time to
red pill everybody else. But we've got to do it
the right way. The only way out of the matrix,
first of all, is to start with a heart of
humility and love. And then we've got to speak the
truth with boldness and with courage, starting with myself, my family,
and then work our way out through our communities, to
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the state and to the local level. And I believe
that if we lean into this bravery and courage that
God has given his faithful followers. We can and we
will realign the nation with biblical, constitutional American values. It's
happened before it can happen again. It's called a great awakening,
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and we're.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Due for one. That was really well said Kirk. And
given your background in Hollywood, I have a question for you.
I just mentioned we saw the Ami Racist premier Matt
Walsh's documentary.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Such a great movie should be required viewing for every American.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I thought it was fantastic. He's going to be on
with us Monday. But it seems to me, and I'm
curious if you feel this based on your background, that
even in Hollywood. I was reading in the Wall Street
Journal magazine about they're making an HBO. I think it
was series about the biblical David. There certainly has been
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a lot, it feels to me, whether it's the Sound
of Freedom, whether it's so many different movies out there,
ordinary angels that came out. I believe the Irwin brothers
are involved in those films, who are also located to
a large degree here in Nashville. Do you sense that
Hollywood is recognizing that there is a great cultural hunger
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for stories such as these, and that that is allowing
people to maybe connect their emptiness inside with recognizing where
it's coming from. Am I crazy? Or is that starting
to happen? Even from the cultural perspective, From what you see.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I feel exactly what you're feeling, and I see what
you see, And what I believe is that Hollywood has
been ripping off the Biblical narrative since the very beginning.
They have wisely recognized the stories that resonate most violently
with the human hearts in a good way. Stories of redemption,
the hero's journey. You see it in every Marvel movie,
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in every Batman movie. You see it everywhere. And it's
the against all odds, when all hope seems lost. Story
when the underdog undergoes a transformation and comes back from
the impossible to win the day. And it's in Lord
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of the Rings, it's in Narnia, it's everywhere. And that's
why I try to make the movies that I make,
the books that I write, and the cartoons and children's
programs that I'm producing. So that's why people need to
go see movies like that. The movies you just talked about,
Sound of Freedom or the Kendricks brothers. New movie that's
out called The Forge, about men mentoring and discipling the
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younger generation of men to give them a sense of
identity and purpose and destiny. And that's why I want
people to get this book. I wrote Born to Be Brave,
because when we support projects like this, when we listen
to radio stations like yours, what does that do? Not
only does it equip us and educate us and open
our eyes so we can do something, it then sends
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massive financial shock waves to the industry and blows open
the doors so we have more radio stations like yours.
We have more books like Born to Be Brave, We
have more movies like The Passion of the Christ or
Sound of Freedom or or or whatever it is to
combat the evil and begin to turn the tide of
the culture. Remember, a tiny, vocal minority group with ridiculous
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ideas that are fake and lies have managed to transform
what is normal today. Think of what we could do
if we got a plan, work together and our cause
was just I feel everything, So can I ask? Here's
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what I'd love more than anything. This is the first
book that I've ever written for adults, and I want
more than anything to write more books like this, and
I want all of my friends, who are better authors
than I am, to write more books like this. And
the way that we can do that is if this
makes it to whatever the numbers are, to put me
on the New York Times bestseller list. That sends a
message to the publishing endo that America wants more about
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about a spiritual comeback in America, a reviving of American
first principles that leads to our blessing and protection. And
then we can flood the market with that kind of stuff.
I don't want it to be fringe. I want it
to be mainstream. Spiritual comeback plus capitalism. You're in the
right place there you go.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, good cameraon Everybody, Born to be Brave. How to
be a part of America's spiritual comeback? Check out your
copy of it.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Kirk. Always great to have you man. We'll see you soon.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Appreciate both of you guys. Thanks so much, Thank you,
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Sports music movies. It appears to me that there is
a groundswell of desire which I think could be so
important to the discourse in this country for America to
go back to the era that Buck, even though he's
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younger than me and I grew up in and that
many of you out there around our ages also grew
up in the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties. Many
of you out there are nostalgic in many ways for
those eras, even the early parts of the two thousands,
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but in particular the eighties and the nineties, because we
had a crazy era. Then people might have disagreed politically,
but we didn't decide when somebody voted different than us
that they were despicable, as MSNBC has been calling Trump
supporters today or last night. We played that audio for
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you earlier, and I've been arguing for a long time
that really, the i would say celebrity athlete who characterized
that era better than anyone was Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan,
to this day is still the most popular athlete in America.
I'm My last book before this current one was called
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Republicans by Sneakers. Two crazy stat for you. At the
time I wrote that book, Michael Jordan's Air Jordans Sneakers
still sold more every year than every current NBA player combined,
Lebron Steph Curry, You Roll them all up together, they
sold less than Michael Jordan's air Jordans were selling. I
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think that's still close to true even today. Why was
that because Michael Jordan's hallmark was his excellence, and he
wanted everyone to celebrate his excellence. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, Strait, Republican, Democrat, Independent.
In fact, my book was called Republicans by Sneakers two
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because that was a quote from Michael Jordan in that
era when he was asked why didn't get political? Then
suddenly that all changed. In the Trump era, athletes decided
they had to use their platforms, and they had to
be super partisan, and they had to come out in
favor of Hillary Clinton, they had to come out in
favor of Joe Biden. It's dying down now. Buck In
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twenty twenty four and yesterday, there were three different clips
that I think tell an interesting story. First, let's start
with Patrick Mahomes, who I would argue is the single
most famous male athlete in America today, quarterback for the
Kansas City Chiefs. His wife Brittany has suggested, based on
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things she's liked, that she is a Trump supporter. Trump
has been complementary of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany. He was
asked about it at a press conference yesterday. This is
what he said for President Trump.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Ro student family against the Fox News in relations to
this campaign.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I just wonder what your reaction is to seeing that.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Yeah, I think I've always said I don't want I
don't want my place in my platform to be used
to endorse a candidate or do whatever each Either way,
I think my place is to inform people to get
registered to vote, is to inform people to do their
own research and then make their best decision for them
and their family. And so I think that's every time
I'm on this stage and I get asked these questions,
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I'm going to refer back to that because I think
that's what makes America so great.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Pretty great answer in many ways.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know what's funny about this, Clay is a lot
of people hear that people like you and me and
others will listen and say, I wish pretty much every
athlete would just do this. Although than athletes, look, well,
we're not allowed to have, you know, opinions on politics,
but yeah, more and Hollywood actors, you know, famous people
of all kinds. I wish they would just stop with
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the But because he's not willing to smugly lecture everybody
on politics when we just want to celebrate athletic greatness,
people are gonna assume he's Republican.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
You know that, right? I mean this is now.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
The only people that are like, I don't want to
be annoying about my politics, are Republican. If you're a
big Kamala voter, you're telling everybody you gotta vote for Kamala.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
What I said, and I'll stand by it. Just to
be fair. If your wife is voting Trump, what are
the odds that the man isn't? How many, honest question,
how many married couples out there? I think there are
a lot that split, right, we have a gender divide.
I think there's lots of men who would vote Trump.
I think there's women who would vote Kamala. I think
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there's lots of those households. I think there are many
fewer households where wife votes Trump and husband votes Kamala.
Would you agree with that? That is a like a
very like. There's lots where both do the same. My household,
we're gonna have double Trump voters. I think it's fair
to say buck your household you'll have double Trump voters.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Just so there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
There, like, what was that criticism of Trump you had.
Let's let's tighten that up a little bit, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Okay, So there's lots of households out there that are
going to double Kamala vote. I do not believe there's
very many households where woman is a Trump's supporter and
husband is a Kamala supporter. So I think you're right there,
but I do think it's significant. He went on to say,
I don't judge people by their politics. I can get
along with anybody because they kind of let him on.
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Because Taylor Swift has decided that she's going to endorse Kamala, okay.
Caitlyn Clark was also asked the same question yesterday. I
would submit to you that Caitlyn Clark is probably the
most famous female athlete in America right now, here's what
she said.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
You liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor Swift
that got a lot of attention, and I'm just curious
if you could tell us what that post meant to
you and if you are in fact potentially going to
endorse Kamala.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Harris Iday for myself. As you know, I have this
amazing platform. So I think the biggest thing when do
you just encourage people to register to vote?
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I think for myself is the second time I can.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Vote in an election at age twenty two. I had a
vote when I was eighteen, So I think do that.
That's the biggest thing I can do with the platform
that I have. And that's the same thing caredate and.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
I think, continue to educate yourself the candidates that we have,
the policies that they're supporting. I think that's the biggest
thing you can do.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
And that's what I would recommend to every single person
that has that opportunity in our country.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
You know what, Okay, play yea.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's you know, and obviously you follow sports professional sports
a lot more than I do. That's because that saying
I watch the Super Bowl and the US Open and
that's about it. But that's somebody who wants to build
a brand that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars is
what that is.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
That's somebody who's like, you know what, I don't want
to antagonize half of my prospective ticket shoe jersey. I
don't know you know, skincare product, whatever she's done that.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Is Michael Jordan's example, or Tiger Woods for that matter. Okay,
one more because I think this one is funny too.
Usher was on our favorite show, The View. Usher, for
those of you who don't know, prominent black musician Joy
Behar just went all in on Hey, don't you need
to endorse Kamala? Here's the answer, here's the.
Speaker 11 (20:04):
Response in this emergency that we're in. I think that
whose artist has come out and speak for Kamala against
Donald Trump? Because he is an existential threat to the country.
What do you say to that?
Speaker 7 (20:15):
You know what?
Speaker 12 (20:15):
I don't get too deep into politics. I didn't get
a chance to watch the debate last night. I obviously
have been watching like everybody else. I think voting is
an individual choice, and I think that you're right. You
have to look at the reality of the country that
we are and the country that we want to be
and find the candidate that you feel both are who
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fits the category of where we want to be, and
that's what you vote. Based off of who you highlight
and how you choose to highlight it on whatever platform
you have is your prerogative.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Look to me, Buck Mahomes, Caitlin Clark, and Usher Boom
Boom boom. Maybe they all have the same pr person,
but all three of them, especially Usher there when Joy
Behar is like trying to brate him on a super
left wing show to endorse Kamala and admit and hit
her opinion that Trump's a horrible human being. I think
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that's a significant cultural shift that we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yes, and I think it's one. It's the business move
that we thought everybody was going to be making in
the public sphere.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Until really about what fifteen to now.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I mean their Hollywood actresses who've always been very vocal
about their politics. But I mean, if you were just
trying to maximize your brand's profitability, you tended not to
antagonize half the country. That changed, Yes, that changed, and
then you had people like Colin Kaepernick who were dragging
it in the other direction of Oh, it's worth so
much more to you to be woke and to squeeze
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everything you can out of that. That spitting in the
face of half of your audience when they don't care
what you think about the following things, is that's a
trade off you should make. I do think the pendulum
has started swing back. You know, it's the bud light effect.
It's a number of what was the what's that store
target with all the sort of lgbt Q stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Forgetting the children tuck like bathing suits and stuff for
people were.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Just like and the you know, the Disney chief creative
executive who's like, well, I have a pan sexual child
and a non binary child. That everyone's like, this is
in charge of what projects get made at Disney for kids?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
What, by the way, what are the odds?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I know we talked about that, what are the odds
that the parent just happens to have a non binary
child and just happens to have a pan sexual child
and also a super left wing But these have nothing
to do with each other, right, It's not in doctrination,
it's just nature, not true. So I think this is
this is encouraging at some level, but play also I
think that Look, I don't follow again, you know the
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sports stuff way better than I do. But with Patrick Mahomes,
he always comes across to me okay, just observing observe
him as I have in different interviews and things. He's
a guy who comes across as humble while being a superstar,
which is so refreshing to people. You know, he's a
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guy who there's a gratitude that he has all the
time for being the best quarterback in the NFL, for
being a celebrated superstar, for being worth what is he worth,
forty fifty million dollars a year?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Whatever's on his content? Yeah easy or yeaheah, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean, I'm guessing he comes across like a guy
who really is like, I want to inspire people and
entertain them with my excellence on the field and make people,
you know, aspire for things in their own lives because
of the greatness that they're around and that they see
on my team, and that has value to people that
that's something you know, you don't need people to be telling.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The problem with the athletes is a lot of them
want to lecture every politics and I'm just like, you
don't know what you tell You're just not very well
informed on politics, right, correct?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
And you actually expect.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Them to be right because those people who have to
commit and you do a great deal of time, effort,
and energy to being excellent at one particular field, it's
not that often that you're an expert in another field, right,
And I think it's fine for me able to share
their opinions. But I've always been of the opinion that
the Michael Jordan era, the Tiger Woods era, was a
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unity era where we could all watch a great athlete
and we didn't need to think at all about anything
other than their athletic excellence. And it feels to me
when you got Patrick Mahomes and Caitlin Clark in the
same day, even in the midst of a high stress
political universe, saying yeah, I'm not gonna endorse, it feels
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like a major cultural swift shift, swift shifty by what
Taylor Swift is doing.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
I would even be happy with.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
A move toward more prominent public figures just saying look,
I'm gonna vote Trump or I'm gonna vote Kamalo. But
I understand it's a personal decision, and I just encourage
everybody to do their own home work.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
And get out or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
The thing that really sits in you know, sticks in
people's car they think it really is annoying, is you know, well,
I just want to tell everybody, like, I can't imagine
how you wouldn't vote for this person or that person.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You know, It's like or I'm like the Chelsea Handlers
of the world being like, I'm gonna move to Canada,
and then you know, their side loses and they don't
move to Canada.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Well, it's always I'm actually.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Glad they did that now though, because it's so funny,
because it becomes such a cliche, you know, it's also
look not throwing shade at Canada, very nice people, you're
gonna leave the US.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I don't even know if that would be choice number one.
It's really cold in the winter.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Not even close to choice number one for me. I
mean not even in the like, I'm not sure it's
top twenty for me. Sorry, Canada Wow Sundays with Clay
and Bus sports, music movies. It appears to me that
there is a groundswell of desire which I think could
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be so important to the discourse in this country for
America to go back to the era that Buck, even
though he's much younger than me and I, grew up in,
and that many of you out there around our ages
also grew up in the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties.
(26:23):
Many of you out there are nostalgic in many ways
for those eras. Even the early parts of the two thousands,
but in particular the eighties and the nineties, because we
had a crazy era. Then people might have disagreed politically,
but we didn't decide when somebody voted different than us
(26:45):
that they were despicable, as MSNBC has been calling Trump
supporters today or last night. We played that audio for
you earlier, and I've been arguing for a long time
that really the I would say celebrity, the athlete who
characterized that era better than anyone was Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan,
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to this day is still the most popular athlete in America.
I'm My last book before this current one was called
Republicans by Sneakers. Two crazy stat for you. At the
time I wrote that book, Michael Jordan's Air Jordans Sneakers
still sold more every year than every current NBA player combined,
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Lebron Steph Curry. You roll them all up together, they
sold less than Michael Jordan's Air Jordans were selling. I
think that's still close to true even today. Why was
that because Michael Jordan's hallmark was his excellence, and he
wanted everyone to celebrate his excellence. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay,
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Strait Republican, Democrat independent. In fact, my book was called
Republicans by Sneakers two because that was a quote from
Michael Jordan in that era when he was asked why
he didn't get political. Then suddenly that all changed. In
the Trump era, athletes decided they had to use their platforms,
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and they had to be super partisan, and they had
to come out in favor of Hillary Clinton, they had
to come out in favor of Joe Biden. It's dying
down now buck. In twenty twenty four and yesterday, there
were three different clips that I think tell an interesting story. First,
let's start with Patrick Mahomes, who I would argue is
the single most famous male athlete in America today, quarterback
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for the Kansas City Chiefs. His wife Brittany has suggested,
based on things she's liked, that she is a Trump supporter.
Trump has been complementary of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany. He
was asked about it at a press conference yesterday. This
is what he said for President.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Trump family at the Fox News and relations to this campaign.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I just wonder what your reaction is to seeing that.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
Yeah, I think I've always I don't want I don't
want my place in my platform to be used to
endorse a candidate or do whatever each either way, I
think my place is to inform people to get registered
to vote, is to inform people to do their own
research and then make their best decision for them and
their family. And so I think that's where every time
I'm on this stage and I get asked these questions,
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I'm going to refer back to that, because I think
that's what makes America so great.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Pretty great answer in many ways.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know what's funny about this, Clay is a lot
of people hear that people like you and me and
others will listen and say, I wish pretty much every
athlete would just do this, Although then athletes look, well,
we're not allowed to have, you know, opinions on politics.
But yeah, more and Hollywood actors, you know, famous people
of all kinds. I wish they would just stop with
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the But because he's not willing to smugly lecture everybody
on politics when we just want to celebrate athletic greatness,
people are gonn to assume he's Republican, you know that, right?
I mean, this is now the only people that are like,
I don't want to be annoying about my politics are Republican.
If you're a big Kamala voter, you're telling everybody you
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gotta vote for Kamala.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
What I said, and I'll stand by it. Just to
be fair. If your wife is voting Trump, what are
the odds that the man isn't? How many, honest question,
how many married couples out there? I think there are
a lot that split, right, we have a gender divide.
I think there's lots of men who would vote Trump.
I think there's women who would vote Kamala. I think
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there's lots of those households. I think there are many
fewer households where wife votes Trump and husband votes Kamala.
Would you agree with that? That is a like a
very like there's lots where both do the same. My household,
we're gonna have double Trump voters. I think it's fair
to say, buck your household, you'll have double Trump voters.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Just so there's a lot of paris Like, what was
that criticism of Trump you had. Let's let's tighten that
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Okay, So there's lots of households out there that are
going to double Kamala vote. I do not believe there's
very many households where woman is a Trump supporter and
husband is a Kamala supporter. So I think you're right there,
But I do think it's significant. He went on to say,
I don't judge people by their politics. I can get
along with anybody because they kind of let him on.
(31:21):
Because Taylor Swift has decided that she's going to endorse Kamala, okay.
Caitlyn Clark was also asked the same question yesterday. I
would submit to you that Caitlyn Clark is probably the
most famous female athlete in America right now, here's what
she said.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
You liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor Swift
that got a lot of attention, and I'm just curious
if you could tell us what that post meant to
you and if you are in fact potentially going to
endorse Kamala Harris today.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
For myself, as you know, I had this amazing platform,
So I think the biggest thing would be interesting her
people to register to vote. I think for myself is
the second time I can vote an election at age
twenty two. Have a vote when I was eighteen, So
I think do that that's the.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Biggest thing I can do with the platform that I have,
and that's the same thing caredate and I think continue
to educate yourself the candidates that we have, the policies
that they're supporting.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
I think that's the biggest thing you can do, and
that's what I would recommend to every single person.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
That has that opportunity in our country.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You know what, Okay, play, Yeah, it's you know and
obviously you follow sports professional sports a lot more than
I do. That's because that saying I watch the super
Bowl and the US Open and that's about it. But
that's somebody who wants to build a brand that's worth
hundreds of millions of dollars is what that is.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's somebody who's like, you know what, I don't want
to antagonize half of my prospective ticket Shoe Jersey, I
don't know, you know, skincare product, whatever she's done.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
That is Michael Jordan's example, or Tiger Woods for that matter. Okay,
one more because I think this one is funny too.
Usher was on our favorite show, The View. Usher. If
those of you don't know, prominent black musician Joy Behar
just went all in on Hey, don't you need to
endorse Kamala. Here's the answer, here's the response in this.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
Emergency that we're in. I think that whose artists come
out and speak for Kamala against Donald Trump because he
is an existential threat to the country. What do you
say to that?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You know what.
Speaker 12 (33:26):
I don't get too deep into politics. I didn't get
a chance to watch the debate last night. I obviously
have been watching like everybody else. I think voting is
an individual choice. I think that you're right. You have
to look at the reality of the country that we
are and the country that we want to be and
find the candidate.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
That you feel both.
Speaker 12 (33:48):
Who fits the category of where we want to be.
And that's what you vote. Based off of who you
highlight and how you choose to highlight it on whatever
platform you had, is your prerogative.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Look to me, Buck Mahomes, Caitlin Clark, and Usher Boom
boom boom. Maybe they all have the same pr person,
but all three of them, especially Usher there when Joy
Behar is like trying to berate him on a super
left wing show to endorse Kamala and admit and hit
her opinion that Trump's a horrible human being. I think
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that's a significant cultural shift that we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yes, and I think it's one. It's the business move
that we thought everybody was going to be making in
the public sphere until really about what fifteen to now.
I mean their Hollywood actresses who've always been very vocal
about their politics. But I mean, if you were just
trying to maximize your brand's profitability, you tended not to
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antagonize half the country. That changed, Yes, that changed, and
then you had people like Colin Kaepernick who were dragging
it in the other direction of Oh, it's worth so
much more to you to be woke and to wheeze
everything you can out of that that spitting in the
face of half of your audience when they don't care
what you think about the following things. Is that's a
trade off you should make. I do think the pendulum
(35:10):
has started to swing back. You know, it's the bud
light effect. It's a number of what was the what's
that store target with all the sort of lgbt Q stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Forgetting the children tuck like bathing suits and stuff for
people were just like.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
And the you know, the Disney chief creative executive who's like, well,
I have a pan sexual child and a non binary
child that everyone's like, this is in charge of what
projects get made at Disney for kids?
Speaker 5 (35:38):
What, by the way, what are the odds? I know
we talked about that, what are.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
The odds that the parent just happens to have a
non binary child and just happens to have a pan
sexual child and also a super left wing But these
have nothing to do with each other, right, It's not
in doctrination, it's just nature. Not true.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
So I think this is this is encouraging at some level.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
But play also I think that, Look, I don't follow again,
you know the sports stuff way better than I do.
But with Patrick Mahomes, he always comes across to me, okay,
just observing observing him as I have in different interviews
and things. He's a guy who comes across as humble
while being a superstar, which is so refreshing to people.
(36:22):
You know, he's a guy who there's a gratitude that
he has all the time for being the best quarterback
in the NFL, for being a celebrated superstar, for being
worth what is he worth forty fifty million dollars a year?
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Whatever's on his content? Yea easily yeaeah whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I mean, I'm guessing he comes across like a guy
who really is like, I want to inspire people and
entertain them with my excellence on the field and make people,
you know, aspire for things in their own lives because
of the greatness that they're around and that they see
on my team, and that has value to people. That
that's something you know, you don't need people to be,
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you know. The problem with the athletes is a lot
of them want to lecture on politics, and I'm just like,
you don't know what you tell You're just not very
well informed on politics, right, correct?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
And you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Expect them to be right because most people who have
to commit and you do a great deal of time, effort,
and energy to being excellent at one particular field, it's
not that often that you're an expert in another field, right.
And I think it's fine for people to share their opinions.
But I've always been of the opinion that the Michael
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Jordan era, the Tiger Woods era, was a unity era
where we could all watch a great athlete and we
didn't need to think at all about anything other than
their athletic excellence. And it feels to me when you
got Patrick Mahomes and Caitlin Clark in the same day,
even in the midst of a high stress political universe,
(37:51):
saying yeah, I'm not going to endorse. It feels like
a major cultural swift shift. Swift shift by what Taylor
Swift is doing. I would even be happy.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
With a move toward more prominent public figures just saying look,
I'm gonna vote Trump or I'm gonna vote Kamalo. But
I understand it's a personal decision, and I just encourage
everybody to do their own homework and get out or whatever.
The thing that really sits in you know, sticks in
people's car. I think it really is annoying, is you know, well,
I just want to tell everybody, like, I can't imagine
how you wouldn't vote for this person or that person.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
You know, it's like or I'm him, like the Chelsea
Handlers of the world being like, I'm gonna move to Canada,
and then you know, the their side loses and they
don't move to Canada.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, it's always I'm actually glad they do that now though,
because it's so funny, because it becomes such a cliche.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
You know, it's also look not throwing shade at Canada.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Very nice people. You're gonna leave the US. I don't
even know if that would be choice number one. It's
really cold in the winter.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Not even close to choice number one for me, I
mean not even in the like. I'm not sure it's
top twenty for me. Sorry, Canada.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Sunday Drum with Clay Buck.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Hey, Jeff, where are you from? In Brockville, Ontario?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
So there we go right now, thank you.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Right out my window, I see the United States Upper State,
New York and it's Trump country up there. Yeahs talking
about how expensive it is up here in Canada. A
house here in Brockville, it'll run you probably about a
starter home, probably about three hundred, four hundred thousand dollars Canadians.
But I know people that bought houses in Ogdensburg in
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the States because they're buying them for between fifty and
ninety thousand US and going to work across the bridge
every day.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
So it is housing in Canada is super expensive. I
was just thinking of the metro areas, but it sounds
like you're telling me it's a broader problem.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
It's everywhere. It's in every small town, any large town,
medium town. It's out of control.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, because that would be consistent with the government regulations.
As you is, this Pierre Polyef guy, he doesn't really
cross over in the US media much. He's the conservative
leader up there, right, he is.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
He the real he's a real deal. And this is
area that I'm in as a conservative stronghold. But if
they called an election today, you wouldn't have a Liberal
party anymore, and you wouldn't have an NDP party anymore.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Okay, cool, Thank you for the call, Thank you for listening.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
As as playing Buck International, Baby, We're international, that's all
I can tell you.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
We got listeners. It's actually fun. Sometimes we get these
little maps.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
It'll show us like a heat map of where people
listen all the world, and all of a sudden, we'll
see we'll see some listening in Germany, and some listening
in South Korea, and some listening in the South Pacific.
You're like, oh, that's right, US military bases, of course.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
And I think that is probably one of the things
you've been overseas as well. Buck. The thing that a
lot of times people connect with is their hometown. I
saw it in sports. We had massive amounts of military
listeners for sports talk radio because you just crave a
taste and a feel of home. And I know this
show has always he's been Rush himself would talk about
(41:02):
it sometimes, how many people on bases would listen because
they might have listened in their car driving around with
their parents. It just gave them a little bit more
of a taste to home when you feel so far away.
So thank you to everybody that is in fact listening
and streaming this show serving overseas right now we're living overseas.
We hope we're bringing you a little bit more of
(41:23):
a feel of how things are going in the good
old USA.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Got some vip emails here. Let's see, we've got Mike Rights.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I wonder how Kamala's price fixing plan is going to
work out with Taylor Script's one thousand dollars concert ticket prices.
Talk about gouging, Yeah, well what is the deal with?
First of all, some of the companies that are involved
in like concert ticket sales are so scummy and it's
like a disgusting cartel of price hijacking and go ahead.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
No, I was just gonna say, I mean, yes, the
tickets have gotten crazy expensive. It's also the case that
Taylor Swift, who is a billionaire. When you become a billionaire,
who the president of the United States is, does not
actually impact your life very much. So to me, when
you're a billionaire lecturing people on how you think they
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should vote, it really strikes, in Taylor Swift terms a
cord that does not feel very true to me when
you are living above the line to such an extent
that there's nothing that could happen financially to Taylor Swift
that could drastically change her lifestyle compared to most of
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Taylor Swift's fans who are desperately scrimping and saving to
try to be able to go watch one of her concerts.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
You know, when was the last time Taylor Swift was
in anything.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
That you would consider to be a truly middle class
home and for any length of time? Any question?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
When was the last time she was on a commercial
airline flight? A commercial I bet she hasn't been on
a commercial airline flight in ten years. I mean, she's
got her private jets. She claims to care so much
about global warming, but she jets all over the place
in the jet. And I don't begrudge anybody who has
a private jet. I think if you have that those
resources and you want to use them, good for you.
(43:17):
But I think it's just like her connection to her
average fan base is not very there's not a lot
of overloading.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
This is where the this is where the cruelty of
Democrat positions really comes in, especially for the Democrat elites.
They advocate for things that make them feel good about
themselves that will hurt everyday people. And this is This
is on crime, this is on taxes, and the economy
is on the border. It's oh, I'm just you know,
(43:44):
we are the world man. I'm a humanitarian. I care
about climate change. I want everyone to have free everything
as long as I'm flying private and have personal chefs
and fifteen houses to go to and.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Lots of film it, lots of fenses to protect you,
lots of walls to keep you from anybody being able.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Kamala is unburdened by what has been She wants a
wall now.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Clay, It's very true.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
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Speaker 5 (45:41):
At this, it's rough. I'll be honest.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
You might need some coffee because you are having trouble.
You injured yourself playing tennis. It's hard for you to
walk right now.
Speaker 12 (45:51):
I know.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
And someone even told me maybe you should try pickleball.
I'd blessed. Have you ever tried? I've never tried it.
Every one of my neighborhood plays saying this is in
the in the in the racket sport world. If if
you are like a lifelong tennis player, which I am.
I'm not saying I'm very good, but you know I'm okay,
lifelong tennis player, and someone says try pickleball, Clay, this
(46:14):
would be like someone telling you stop watching college football
you should watch college lacrosse instead.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
You're just like, what not totally different sport. Although I
have heard lacrosse is amazing and one of my kids
is playing, and Buck, this is the embarrassing for me
as a guy who played and talked about a lot
of sports. Last year, my seventh grader was playing lacrosse.
I had to pull out my phone and look up
lacrosse rules on Wikipedia. I had no I'd never been
(46:41):
to a game. I had no idea what was going on.
I might as well have been cricket to me. You know,
sixty years ago, my dad played college lacrosse. I don't
even know the rules, so I think it's got to
my blood. Kind of popular now, yeah, I don't know.
But to be fair to you, I mean, I don't want.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
To take it.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
It's cultural appropriation, as you know, guys wearing pink shirts
with the collars up taking it from the Native Americans.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
I don't want to insult you, but I'm going to
do that to finish the week. I think your niece
so bad. I don't even think you could play pickleball
right now. Wow, I'm.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
I don't think it's probably true.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Carrie Carrey keeps aging to me, can I go get
that for you? And I'm like, no, maybe have a Dibrican.
Everyone
Bold reverence and occasionally random the Sunday Hang with Clay
and Buck podcast, and it starts now, you.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Know, it's been a pretty heavy week and things are
getting a little tense out there with the news cycle
so focused on politics, and you know, Kamala wins at
maybe the end of the republic and the greatest experiment
in human freedom in history. But you know what I mean, like,
we're gonna keep fighting and we're gonna keep our heads high.
We're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna stay positive no matter
(00:31):
what I do think Trump's gonna win. But put that
aside for a second, put aside the partisan stuff for
a second year. To send you off into the weekend
with some positive vibes. As the gen Z would say,
Actor Kirk Cameron is with us now. He's here to
uplift us, inspire us. He's got a new book, Born
to Be Brave, How to be part of America's spiritual comeback. Kirk,
(00:55):
take it away, man, make everybody feel like it's all
gonna be all right.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Sir, What a boy.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I'm I'm sorry, glad, I'm glad I came in right now.
It actually is the most exciting time I can think
of to be alive in the last hundred years. I mean,
the darkness is so it is so opaque that light
is so easy to see. All people have to do
is turn it on. And I'm telling you honestly and
truly with all of my heart. As I travel the
(01:23):
country and I'm reading books of virtue and character to
children at public libraries, contra drag queens, story hours and
political corruption and economic collapse and moral sewage, I'm finding
thousands and thousands of parents and grandparents and kids coming
out of the woodwork to be a part of a
movement that will amplify light and light some brush fires
(01:45):
of freedom and virtue and fan them to spread them
like wildfire across the country. People are waking up. I
feel the rumblings of a great awakening, and I can't
wait to see what's going to happen over the next
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I love the husiasm, Kirk.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I just saw it, not pie in the sky by
and by optimism. This is steak on the plate, reality
that I see and that I believe with all of
my heart.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, Clay speaking a steak on the plate, But it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I was just wanting you No, I know, I've just
got to buy clay expensive steak soon in like a week.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
That's what that would make.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
The board decision that he thought Joe Biden was going
to stay in the race, and I said, of course not,
He's going to drop out. But Kirk, I saw you.
What night was it? Monday night at the Ami Racist
premiere for Matt Walsh's new film. And you have now
moved to my hometown of Nashville. Welcome, It's all you
had to add New Tennesseeans. But I want to also
congratulate you. You have six kids of your own, but
(02:45):
you just became a grandfather. Yes, what is the experience
like you obviously have had a bunch of kids already.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
What does it feel like to be a grandfather. It's thrilling,
it's exciting. It's it's an exciting experience to have kids.
Now when you when you have a grandfather, it's it's
definitely next level. I've heard that my whole life, and
now I'm experiencing it. I mean, she's got cheeks for weeks.
She's already a Bills fan, She's part of the mafia.
She was stressed out before the game. The other day
and she just crashed when the whole thing was done.
(03:12):
We are loving being grandparents. My wife and I are
just just over the moon.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It is super cool and welcome. Like I said to Nashville,
tell us about this book. So you have written a
bunch of children's books now for people out there who
have been grew up basically watching you. Now you've gone
from I would say teen idol on Growing Pains to
now a grandpa. What has that trajectory of your life
(03:42):
been like and at what point did you decide, Hey,
I really want to kind of focus on telling stories
to younger kids.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Well, I'm so, I'm so excited that I made it
this far. I'm now a grandfather. You know, I didn't
pass away in my youth like a like a like
a teenage actor who just got so strung out on
which happens.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Honestly, there's not very many that grow up, have six kids,
have one wife and become a grandkid who were a
grandfather who were pop stars.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
So I mean that is a rare pathway. That is
a blessing that I'm so grateful for. And yes, I
wrote this book that you're speaking of. It's called Born
to Be brave. I have been spending the last couple
of years writing children's books and reading them to three
to five year olds to teach them things like the
fruit of the spirit, love, kindness, faithfulness, self control, and humility,
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contra drag queens, teaching them about pride and self empowerment
rather than self control and finding myself inundated by parents
who say that they feel silenced and marginalized, afraid, they're
not sure what to do, and then they throw some
of them throw a religious element into it and say,
but that's the way the Bible says it's supposed to be.
(04:52):
It's just gonna get worse and there's really nothing we
can do about it. And I go time out. No,
I think that's totally misplaced. That hopelessness is found nowhere
in the history of the Family of Faith, or the
scriptures or what I'm seeing right now. And I realized,
I need to put gas in the tank of the parents.
I need to put win in the sales of the grandparents,
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the people who actually understand why this is the greatest
country in the world, so that they can have the
bravery encourage to get our kids to a place of
blessing and protection. And teach them the things that we
are losing in this country.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It's nice to hear a sense of optimism about how
the battle for spirituality or the spiritual battle is playing
out in this country, and that I guess the good
guys and gals can win here. I mean you're mentioning obviously,
the book, I assume is a bit of a template
or some encouragement perhaps you know, coaching from the sidelines
(05:52):
here for how people can get more involved in these
battles themselves, or just give them a framework, a template
for doing it.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
The book is Born to be.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Brave, how to be a part of America's spiritual comeback.
And so, as a new grandparent, I got to say,
you know, you've got a lot of grandparents listening right now.
I feel like the older I get, the more wisdom
I feel comes from the older generation in a lot
of ways. I'll be honest with you. How does that
play into the spiritual comeback?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yeah, many grandparents feel like, well, I did my time,
and I've had my opportunity to make a difference. No, no, no, no,
you're just getting started. If you are somebody who loves God,
loves your family, and loves this country. Listen, don't get
bitter when you watch the news. Get better. Don't be
a whiner, be a winner, don't complain about the culture.
(06:44):
Create the culture you have, the time, you have, the
opportunity with the next generation. They need you pour into them.
That's what I need to be doing. Let me ask
you this question, Clay, what if the current cultural setback
is really a divine setup for a spiritual comeback led
(07:04):
by the family of faith. What if the political corruption,
the moral collapse, the economic decline, the spiritual apathy is
really a wake up call for those of us who
know exactly what's going on. We've been red pilled. We
see what's happening. The promises of the enemy are turning
(07:25):
out to be fake. And now it's our time to
red pill everybody else. But we've got to do it
the right way. The only way out of the matrix,
first of all, is to start with a heart of
humility and love. And then we've got to speak the
truth with boldness and with courage, starting with myself, my family,
and then work our way out through our communities, to
(07:46):
the state and to the local level. And I believe
that if we lean into this bravery and courage that
God has given his faithful followers. We can and we
will realign the nation with biblical, constitutional American values. It's
happened before it can happen again. It's called a great awakening,
(08:08):
and we're.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Due for one. That was really well said Kirk. And
given your background in Hollywood, I have a question for you.
I just mentioned we saw the Ami Racist premier Matt
Walsh's documentary.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Such a great movie should be required viewing for every American.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I thought it was fantastic. He's going to be on
with us Monday. But it seems to me, and I'm
curious if you feel this based on your background, that
even in Hollywood. I was reading in the Wall Street
Journal magazine about they're making an HBO. I think it
was series about the biblical David. There certainly has been
(08:46):
a lot, it feels to me, whether it's the Sound
of Freedom, whether it's so many different movies out there,
ordinary angels that came out. I believe the Irwin brothers
are involved in those films, who are also located to
a large degree here in Nashville. Do you sense that
Hollywood is recognizing that there is a great cultural hunger
(09:09):
for stories such as these, and that that is allowing
people to maybe connect their emptiness inside with recognizing where
it's coming from. Am I crazy? Or is that starting
to happen? Even from the cultural perspective, From what you see.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I feel exactly what you're feeling, and I see what
you see, And what I believe is that Hollywood has
been ripping off the Biblical narrative since the very beginning.
They have wisely recognized the stories that resonate most violently
with the human hearts in a good way. Stories of redemption,
the hero's journey. You see it in every Marvel movie,
(09:45):
in every Batman movie. You see it everywhere. And it's
the against all odds, when all hope seems lost. Story
when the underdog undergoes a transformation and comes back from
the impossible to win the day. And it's in Lord
(10:06):
of the Rings, it's in Narnia, it's everywhere. And that's
why I try to make the movies that I make,
the books that I write, and the cartoons and children's
programs that I'm producing. So that's why people need to
go see movies like that. The movies you just talked about,
Sound of Freedom or the Kendricks brothers. New movie that's
out called The Forge, about men mentoring and discipling the
(10:29):
younger generation of men to give them a sense of
identity and purpose and destiny. And that's why I want
people to get this book. I wrote Born to Be Brave,
because when we support projects like this, when we listen
to radio stations like yours, what does that do? Not
only does it equip us and educate us and open
our eyes so we can do something, it then sends
(10:51):
massive financial shock waves to the industry and blows open
the doors so we have more radio stations like yours.
We have more books like Born to Be Brave, We
have more movies like The Passion of the Christ or
Sound of Freedom or or or whatever it is to
combat the evil and begin to turn the tide of
the culture. Remember, a tiny, vocal minority group with ridiculous
(11:17):
ideas that are fake and lies have managed to transform
what is normal today. Think of what we could do
if we got a plan, work together and our cause
was just I feel everything, So can I ask? Here's
(11:38):
what I'd love more than anything. This is the first
book that I've ever written for adults, and I want
more than anything to write more books like this, and
I want all of my friends, who are better authors
than I am, to write more books like this. And
the way that we can do that is if this
makes it to whatever the numbers are, to put me
on the New York Times bestseller list. That sends a
message to the publishing endo that America wants more about
(12:01):
about a spiritual comeback in America, a reviving of American
first principles that leads to our blessing and protection. And
then we can flood the market with that kind of stuff.
I don't want it to be fringe. I want it
to be mainstream. Spiritual comeback plus capitalism. You're in the
right place there you go.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, good cameraon Everybody, Born to be Brave. How to
be a part of America's spiritual comeback? Check out your
copy of it.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Kirk. Always great to have you man. We'll see you soon.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Appreciate both of you guys. Thanks so much, Thank you,
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Sports music movies. It appears to me that there is
a groundswell of desire which I think could be so
important to the discourse in this country for America to
go back to the era that Buck, even though he's
(13:00):
younger than me and I grew up in and that
many of you out there around our ages also grew
up in the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties. Many
of you out there are nostalgic in many ways for
those eras, even the early parts of the two thousands,
(13:20):
but in particular the eighties and the nineties, because we
had a crazy era. Then people might have disagreed politically,
but we didn't decide when somebody voted different than us
that they were despicable, as MSNBC has been calling Trump
supporters today or last night. We played that audio for
(13:42):
you earlier, and I've been arguing for a long time
that really, the i would say celebrity athlete who characterized
that era better than anyone was Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan,
to this day is still the most popular athlete in America.
I'm My last book before this current one was called
(14:05):
Republicans by Sneakers. Two crazy stat for you. At the
time I wrote that book, Michael Jordan's Air Jordans Sneakers
still sold more every year than every current NBA player combined,
Lebron Steph Curry, You Roll them all up together, they
sold less than Michael Jordan's air Jordans were selling. I
(14:27):
think that's still close to true even today. Why was
that because Michael Jordan's hallmark was his excellence, and he
wanted everyone to celebrate his excellence. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, Strait, Republican, Democrat, Independent.
In fact, my book was called Republicans by Sneakers two
(14:49):
because that was a quote from Michael Jordan in that
era when he was asked why didn't get political? Then
suddenly that all changed. In the Trump era, athletes decided
they had to use their platforms, and they had to
be super partisan, and they had to come out in
favor of Hillary Clinton, they had to come out in
favor of Joe Biden. It's dying down now. Buck In
(15:11):
twenty twenty four and yesterday, there were three different clips
that I think tell an interesting story. First, let's start
with Patrick Mahomes, who I would argue is the single
most famous male athlete in America today, quarterback for the
Kansas City Chiefs. His wife Brittany has suggested, based on
(15:32):
things she's liked, that she is a Trump supporter. Trump
has been complementary of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany. He was
asked about it at a press conference yesterday. This is
what he said for President Trump.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Ro student family against the Fox News in relations to
this campaign.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I just wonder what your reaction is to seeing that.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Yeah, I think I've always said I don't want I
don't want my place in my platform to be used
to endorse a candidate or do whatever each Either way,
I think my place is to inform people to get
registered to vote, is to inform people to do their
own research and then make their best decision for them
and their family. And so I think that's every time
I'm on this stage and I get asked these questions,
(16:09):
I'm going to refer back to that because I think
that's what makes America so great.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Pretty great answer in many ways.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know what's funny about this, Clay is a lot
of people hear that people like you and me and
others will listen and say, I wish pretty much every
athlete would just do this. Although than athletes, look, well,
we're not allowed to have, you know, opinions on politics,
but yeah, more and Hollywood actors, you know, famous people
of all kinds. I wish they would just stop with
(16:37):
the But because he's not willing to smugly lecture everybody
on politics when we just want to celebrate athletic greatness,
people are gonna assume he's Republican.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
You know that, right? I mean this is now.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
The only people that are like, I don't want to
be annoying about my politics, are Republican. If you're a
big Kamala voter, you're telling everybody you gotta vote for Kamala.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
What I said, and I'll stand by it. Just to
be fair. If your wife is voting Trump, what are
the odds that the man isn't? How many, honest question,
how many married couples out there? I think there are
a lot that split, right, we have a gender divide.
I think there's lots of men who would vote Trump.
I think there's women who would vote Kamala. I think
(17:21):
there's lots of those households. I think there are many
fewer households where wife votes Trump and husband votes Kamala.
Would you agree with that? That is a like a
very like. There's lots where both do the same. My household,
we're gonna have double Trump voters. I think it's fair
to say buck your household you'll have double Trump voters.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Just so there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
There, like, what was that criticism of Trump you had.
Let's let's tighten that up a little bit, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Okay, So there's lots of households out there that are
going to double Kamala vote. I do not believe there's
very many households where woman is a Trump's supporter and
husband is a Kamala supporter. So I think you're right there,
but I do think it's significant. He went on to say,
I don't judge people by their politics. I can get
along with anybody because they kind of let him on.
(18:10):
Because Taylor Swift has decided that she's going to endorse Kamala, okay.
Caitlyn Clark was also asked the same question yesterday. I
would submit to you that Caitlyn Clark is probably the
most famous female athlete in America right now, here's what
she said.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
You liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor Swift
that got a lot of attention, and I'm just curious
if you could tell us what that post meant to
you and if you are in fact potentially going to
endorse Kamala.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Harris Iday for myself. As you know, I have this
amazing platform. So I think the biggest thing when do
you just encourage people to register to vote?
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I think for myself is the second time I can.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Vote in an election at age twenty two. I had a
vote when I was eighteen, So I think do that.
That's the biggest thing I can do with the platform
that I have. And that's the same thing caredate and.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
I think, continue to educate yourself the candidates that we have,
the policies that they're supporting. I think that's the biggest
thing you can do.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
And that's what I would recommend to every single person
that has that opportunity in our country.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
You know what, Okay, play yea.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's you know, and obviously you follow sports professional sports
a lot more than I do. That's because that saying
I watch the Super Bowl and the US Open and
that's about it. But that's somebody who wants to build
a brand that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars is
what that is.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
That's somebody who's like, you know what, I don't want
to antagonize half of my prospective ticket shoe jersey. I
don't know you know, skincare product, whatever she's done that.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Is Michael Jordan's example, or Tiger Woods for that matter. Okay,
one more because I think this one is funny too.
Usher was on our favorite show, The View. Usher, for
those of you who don't know, prominent black musician Joy
Behar just went all in on Hey, don't you need
to endorse Kamala? Here's the answer, here's the.
Speaker 11 (20:04):
Response in this emergency that we're in. I think that
whose artist has come out and speak for Kamala against
Donald Trump? Because he is an existential threat to the country.
What do you say to that?
Speaker 7 (20:15):
You know what?
Speaker 12 (20:15):
I don't get too deep into politics. I didn't get
a chance to watch the debate last night. I obviously
have been watching like everybody else. I think voting is
an individual choice, and I think that you're right. You
have to look at the reality of the country that
we are and the country that we want to be
and find the candidate that you feel both are who
(20:37):
fits the category of where we want to be, and
that's what you vote. Based off of who you highlight
and how you choose to highlight it on whatever platform
you have is your prerogative.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Look to me, Buck Mahomes, Caitlin Clark, and Usher Boom
Boom boom. Maybe they all have the same pr person,
but all three of them, especially Usher there when Joy
Behar is like trying to brate him on a super
left wing show to endorse Kamala and admit and hit
her opinion that Trump's a horrible human being. I think
(21:12):
that's a significant cultural shift that we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yes, and I think it's one. It's the business move
that we thought everybody was going to be making in
the public sphere.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Until really about what fifteen to now.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I mean their Hollywood actresses who've always been very vocal
about their politics. But I mean, if you were just
trying to maximize your brand's profitability, you tended not to
antagonize half the country. That changed, Yes, that changed, and
then you had people like Colin Kaepernick who were dragging
it in the other direction of Oh, it's worth so
much more to you to be woke and to squeeze
(21:49):
everything you can out of that. That spitting in the
face of half of your audience when they don't care
what you think about the following things, is that's a
trade off you should make. I do think the pendulum
has started swing back. You know, it's the bud light effect.
It's a number of what was the what's that store
target with all the sort of lgbt Q stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Forgetting the children tuck like bathing suits and stuff for
people were.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Just like and the you know, the Disney chief creative
executive who's like, well, I have a pan sexual child
and a non binary child. That everyone's like, this is
in charge of what projects get made at Disney for kids?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
What, by the way, what are the odds?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I know we talked about that, what are the odds
that the parent just happens to have a non binary
child and just happens to have a pan sexual child
and also a super left wing But these have nothing
to do with each other, right, It's not in doctrination,
it's just nature, not true. So I think this is
this is encouraging at some level, but play also I
think that Look, I don't follow again, you know the
(22:51):
sports stuff way better than I do. But with Patrick Mahomes,
he always comes across to me okay, just observing observe
him as I have in different interviews and things. He's
a guy who comes across as humble while being a superstar,
which is so refreshing to people. You know, he's a
(23:13):
guy who there's a gratitude that he has all the
time for being the best quarterback in the NFL, for
being a celebrated superstar, for being worth what is he worth,
forty fifty million dollars a year?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Whatever's on his content? Yeah easy or yeaheah, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean, I'm guessing he comes across like a guy
who really is like, I want to inspire people and
entertain them with my excellence on the field and make people,
you know, aspire for things in their own lives because
of the greatness that they're around and that they see
on my team, and that has value to people that
that's something you know, you don't need people to be telling.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The problem with the athletes is a lot of them
want to lecture every politics and I'm just like, you
don't know what you tell You're just not very well
informed on politics, right, correct?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
And you actually expect.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Them to be right because those people who have to
commit and you do a great deal of time, effort,
and energy to being excellent at one particular field, it's
not that often that you're an expert in another field, right,
And I think it's fine for me able to share
their opinions. But I've always been of the opinion that
the Michael Jordan era, the Tiger Woods era, was a
(24:21):
unity era where we could all watch a great athlete
and we didn't need to think at all about anything
other than their athletic excellence. And it feels to me
when you got Patrick Mahomes and Caitlin Clark in the
same day, even in the midst of a high stress
political universe, saying yeah, I'm not gonna endorse, it feels
(24:42):
like a major cultural swift shift, swift shifty by what
Taylor Swift is doing.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
I would even be happy with.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
A move toward more prominent public figures just saying look,
I'm gonna vote Trump or I'm gonna vote Kamalo. But
I understand it's a personal decision, and I just encourage
everybody to do their own home work.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
And get out or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
The thing that really sits in you know, sticks in
people's car they think it really is annoying, is you know, well,
I just want to tell everybody, like, I can't imagine
how you wouldn't vote for this person or that person.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You know, It's like or I'm like the Chelsea Handlers
of the world being like, I'm gonna move to Canada,
and then you know, their side loses and they don't
move to Canada.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Well, it's always I'm actually.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Glad they did that now though, because it's so funny,
because it becomes such a cliche, you know, it's also
look not throwing shade at Canada, very nice people, you're
gonna leave the US.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I don't even know if that would be choice number one.
It's really cold in the winter.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Not even close to choice number one for me. I
mean not even in the like, I'm not sure it's
top twenty for me. Sorry, Canada Wow Sundays with Clay
and Bus sports, music movies. It appears to me that
there is a groundswell of desire which I think could
(26:00):
be so important to the discourse in this country for
America to go back to the era that Buck, even
though he's much younger than me and I, grew up in,
and that many of you out there around our ages
also grew up in the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties.
(26:23):
Many of you out there are nostalgic in many ways
for those eras. Even the early parts of the two thousands,
but in particular the eighties and the nineties, because we
had a crazy era. Then people might have disagreed politically,
but we didn't decide when somebody voted different than us
(26:45):
that they were despicable, as MSNBC has been calling Trump
supporters today or last night. We played that audio for
you earlier, and I've been arguing for a long time
that really the I would say celebrity, the athlete who
characterized that era better than anyone was Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan,
(27:07):
to this day is still the most popular athlete in America.
I'm My last book before this current one was called
Republicans by Sneakers. Two crazy stat for you. At the
time I wrote that book, Michael Jordan's Air Jordans Sneakers
still sold more every year than every current NBA player combined,
(27:31):
Lebron Steph Curry. You roll them all up together, they
sold less than Michael Jordan's Air Jordans were selling. I
think that's still close to true even today. Why was
that because Michael Jordan's hallmark was his excellence, and he
wanted everyone to celebrate his excellence. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay,
(27:52):
Strait Republican, Democrat independent. In fact, my book was called
Republicans by Sneakers two because that was a quote from
Michael Jordan in that era when he was asked why
he didn't get political. Then suddenly that all changed. In
the Trump era, athletes decided they had to use their platforms,
(28:13):
and they had to be super partisan, and they had
to come out in favor of Hillary Clinton, they had
to come out in favor of Joe Biden. It's dying
down now buck. In twenty twenty four and yesterday, there
were three different clips that I think tell an interesting story. First,
let's start with Patrick Mahomes, who I would argue is
the single most famous male athlete in America today, quarterback
(28:38):
for the Kansas City Chiefs. His wife Brittany has suggested,
based on things she's liked, that she is a Trump supporter.
Trump has been complementary of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany. He
was asked about it at a press conference yesterday. This
is what he said for President.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Trump family at the Fox News and relations to this campaign.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I just wonder what your reaction is to seeing that.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
Yeah, I think I've always I don't want I don't
want my place in my platform to be used to
endorse a candidate or do whatever each either way, I
think my place is to inform people to get registered
to vote, is to inform people to do their own
research and then make their best decision for them and
their family. And so I think that's where every time
I'm on this stage and I get asked these questions,
(29:20):
I'm going to refer back to that, because I think
that's what makes America so great.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Pretty great answer in many ways.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know what's funny about this, Clay is a lot
of people hear that people like you and me and
others will listen and say, I wish pretty much every
athlete would just do this, Although then athletes look, well,
we're not allowed to have, you know, opinions on politics.
But yeah, more and Hollywood actors, you know, famous people
of all kinds. I wish they would just stop with
(29:47):
the But because he's not willing to smugly lecture everybody
on politics when we just want to celebrate athletic greatness,
people are gonn to assume he's Republican, you know that, right?
I mean, this is now the only people that are like,
I don't want to be annoying about my politics are Republican.
If you're a big Kamala voter, you're telling everybody you
(30:09):
gotta vote for Kamala.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
What I said, and I'll stand by it. Just to
be fair. If your wife is voting Trump, what are
the odds that the man isn't? How many, honest question,
how many married couples out there? I think there are
a lot that split, right, we have a gender divide.
I think there's lots of men who would vote Trump.
I think there's women who would vote Kamala. I think
(30:32):
there's lots of those households. I think there are many
fewer households where wife votes Trump and husband votes Kamala.
Would you agree with that? That is a like a
very like there's lots where both do the same. My household,
we're gonna have double Trump voters. I think it's fair
to say, buck your household, you'll have double Trump voters.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Just so there's a lot of paris Like, what was
that criticism of Trump you had. Let's let's tighten that
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Okay, So there's lots of households out there that are
going to double Kamala vote. I do not believe there's
very many households where woman is a Trump supporter and
husband is a Kamala supporter. So I think you're right there,
But I do think it's significant. He went on to say,
I don't judge people by their politics. I can get
along with anybody because they kind of let him on.
(31:21):
Because Taylor Swift has decided that she's going to endorse Kamala, okay.
Caitlyn Clark was also asked the same question yesterday. I
would submit to you that Caitlyn Clark is probably the
most famous female athlete in America right now, here's what
she said.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
You liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor Swift
that got a lot of attention, and I'm just curious
if you could tell us what that post meant to
you and if you are in fact potentially going to
endorse Kamala Harris today.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
For myself, as you know, I had this amazing platform,
So I think the biggest thing would be interesting her
people to register to vote. I think for myself is
the second time I can vote an election at age
twenty two. Have a vote when I was eighteen, So
I think do that that's the.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Biggest thing I can do with the platform that I have,
and that's the same thing caredate and I think continue
to educate yourself the candidates that we have, the policies
that they're supporting.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
I think that's the biggest thing you can do, and
that's what I would recommend to every single person.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
That has that opportunity in our country.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You know what, Okay, play, Yeah, it's you know and
obviously you follow sports professional sports a lot more than
I do. That's because that saying I watch the super
Bowl and the US Open and that's about it. But
that's somebody who wants to build a brand that's worth
hundreds of millions of dollars is what that is.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's somebody who's like, you know what, I don't want
to antagonize half of my prospective ticket Shoe Jersey, I
don't know, you know, skincare product, whatever she's done.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
That is Michael Jordan's example, or Tiger Woods for that matter. Okay,
one more because I think this one is funny too.
Usher was on our favorite show, The View. Usher. If
those of you don't know, prominent black musician Joy Behar
just went all in on Hey, don't you need to
endorse Kamala. Here's the answer, here's the response in this.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
Emergency that we're in. I think that whose artists come
out and speak for Kamala against Donald Trump because he
is an existential threat to the country. What do you
say to that?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You know what.
Speaker 12 (33:26):
I don't get too deep into politics. I didn't get
a chance to watch the debate last night. I obviously
have been watching like everybody else. I think voting is
an individual choice. I think that you're right. You have
to look at the reality of the country that we
are and the country that we want to be and
find the candidate.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
That you feel both.
Speaker 12 (33:48):
Who fits the category of where we want to be.
And that's what you vote. Based off of who you
highlight and how you choose to highlight it on whatever
platform you had, is your prerogative.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Look to me, Buck Mahomes, Caitlin Clark, and Usher Boom
boom boom. Maybe they all have the same pr person,
but all three of them, especially Usher there when Joy
Behar is like trying to berate him on a super
left wing show to endorse Kamala and admit and hit
her opinion that Trump's a horrible human being. I think
(34:23):
that's a significant cultural shift that we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yes, and I think it's one. It's the business move
that we thought everybody was going to be making in
the public sphere until really about what fifteen to now.
I mean their Hollywood actresses who've always been very vocal
about their politics. But I mean, if you were just
trying to maximize your brand's profitability, you tended not to
(34:48):
antagonize half the country. That changed, Yes, that changed, and
then you had people like Colin Kaepernick who were dragging
it in the other direction of Oh, it's worth so
much more to you to be woke and to wheeze
everything you can out of that that spitting in the
face of half of your audience when they don't care
what you think about the following things. Is that's a
trade off you should make. I do think the pendulum
(35:10):
has started to swing back. You know, it's the bud
light effect. It's a number of what was the what's
that store target with all the sort of lgbt Q stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Forgetting the children tuck like bathing suits and stuff for
people were just like.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
And the you know, the Disney chief creative executive who's like, well,
I have a pan sexual child and a non binary
child that everyone's like, this is in charge of what
projects get made at Disney for kids?
Speaker 5 (35:38):
What, by the way, what are the odds? I know
we talked about that, what are.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
The odds that the parent just happens to have a
non binary child and just happens to have a pan
sexual child and also a super left wing But these
have nothing to do with each other, right, It's not
in doctrination, it's just nature. Not true.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
So I think this is this is encouraging at some level.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
But play also I think that, Look, I don't follow again,
you know the sports stuff way better than I do.
But with Patrick Mahomes, he always comes across to me, okay,
just observing observing him as I have in different interviews
and things. He's a guy who comes across as humble
while being a superstar, which is so refreshing to people.
(36:22):
You know, he's a guy who there's a gratitude that
he has all the time for being the best quarterback
in the NFL, for being a celebrated superstar, for being
worth what is he worth forty fifty million dollars a year?
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Whatever's on his content? Yea easily yeaeah whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I mean, I'm guessing he comes across like a guy
who really is like, I want to inspire people and
entertain them with my excellence on the field and make people,
you know, aspire for things in their own lives because
of the greatness that they're around and that they see
on my team, and that has value to people. That
that's something you know, you don't need people to be,
(37:00):
you know. The problem with the athletes is a lot
of them want to lecture on politics, and I'm just like,
you don't know what you tell You're just not very
well informed on politics, right, correct?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
And you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Expect them to be right because most people who have
to commit and you do a great deal of time, effort,
and energy to being excellent at one particular field, it's
not that often that you're an expert in another field, right.
And I think it's fine for people to share their opinions.
But I've always been of the opinion that the Michael
(37:29):
Jordan era, the Tiger Woods era, was a unity era
where we could all watch a great athlete and we
didn't need to think at all about anything other than
their athletic excellence. And it feels to me when you
got Patrick Mahomes and Caitlin Clark in the same day,
even in the midst of a high stress political universe,
(37:51):
saying yeah, I'm not going to endorse. It feels like
a major cultural swift shift. Swift shift by what Taylor
Swift is doing. I would even be happy.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
With a move toward more prominent public figures just saying look,
I'm gonna vote Trump or I'm gonna vote Kamalo. But
I understand it's a personal decision, and I just encourage
everybody to do their own homework and get out or whatever.
The thing that really sits in you know, sticks in
people's car. I think it really is annoying, is you know, well,
I just want to tell everybody, like, I can't imagine
how you wouldn't vote for this person or that person.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
You know, it's like or I'm him, like the Chelsea
Handlers of the world being like, I'm gonna move to Canada,
and then you know, the their side loses and they
don't move to Canada.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, it's always I'm actually glad they do that now though,
because it's so funny, because it becomes such a cliche.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
You know, it's also look not throwing shade at Canada.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Very nice people. You're gonna leave the US. I don't
even know if that would be choice number one. It's
really cold in the winter.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Not even close to choice number one for me, I
mean not even in the like. I'm not sure it's
top twenty for me. Sorry, Canada.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Sunday Drum with Clay Buck.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Hey, Jeff, where are you from? In Brockville, Ontario?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
So there we go right now, thank you.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Right out my window, I see the United States Upper State,
New York and it's Trump country up there. Yeahs talking
about how expensive it is up here in Canada. A
house here in Brockville, it'll run you probably about a
starter home, probably about three hundred, four hundred thousand dollars Canadians.
But I know people that bought houses in Ogdensburg in
(39:28):
the States because they're buying them for between fifty and
ninety thousand US and going to work across the bridge
every day.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
So it is housing in Canada is super expensive. I
was just thinking of the metro areas, but it sounds
like you're telling me it's a broader problem.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
It's everywhere. It's in every small town, any large town,
medium town. It's out of control.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, because that would be consistent with the government regulations.
As you is, this Pierre Polyef guy, he doesn't really
cross over in the US media much. He's the conservative
leader up there, right, he is.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
He the real he's a real deal. And this is
area that I'm in as a conservative stronghold. But if
they called an election today, you wouldn't have a Liberal
party anymore, and you wouldn't have an NDP party anymore.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Okay, cool, Thank you for the call, Thank you for listening.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
As as playing Buck International, Baby, We're international, that's all
I can tell you.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
We got listeners. It's actually fun. Sometimes we get these
little maps.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
It'll show us like a heat map of where people
listen all the world, and all of a sudden, we'll
see we'll see some listening in Germany, and some listening
in South Korea, and some listening in the South Pacific.
You're like, oh, that's right, US military bases, of course.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
And I think that is probably one of the things
you've been overseas as well. Buck. The thing that a
lot of times people connect with is their hometown. I
saw it in sports. We had massive amounts of military
listeners for sports talk radio because you just crave a
taste and a feel of home. And I know this
show has always he's been Rush himself would talk about
(41:02):
it sometimes, how many people on bases would listen because
they might have listened in their car driving around with
their parents. It just gave them a little bit more
of a taste to home when you feel so far away.
So thank you to everybody that is in fact listening
and streaming this show serving overseas right now we're living overseas.
We hope we're bringing you a little bit more of
(41:23):
a feel of how things are going in the good
old USA.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Got some vip emails here. Let's see, we've got Mike Rights.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I wonder how Kamala's price fixing plan is going to
work out with Taylor Script's one thousand dollars concert ticket prices.
Talk about gouging, Yeah, well what is the deal with?
First of all, some of the companies that are involved
in like concert ticket sales are so scummy and it's
like a disgusting cartel of price hijacking and go ahead.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
No, I was just gonna say, I mean, yes, the
tickets have gotten crazy expensive. It's also the case that
Taylor Swift, who is a billionaire. When you become a billionaire,
who the president of the United States is, does not
actually impact your life very much. So to me, when
you're a billionaire lecturing people on how you think they
(42:16):
should vote, it really strikes, in Taylor Swift terms a
cord that does not feel very true to me when
you are living above the line to such an extent
that there's nothing that could happen financially to Taylor Swift
that could drastically change her lifestyle compared to most of
(42:37):
Taylor Swift's fans who are desperately scrimping and saving to
try to be able to go watch one of her concerts.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
You know, when was the last time Taylor Swift was
in anything.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
That you would consider to be a truly middle class
home and for any length of time? Any question?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
When was the last time she was on a commercial
airline flight? A commercial I bet she hasn't been on
a commercial airline flight in ten years. I mean, she's
got her private jets. She claims to care so much
about global warming, but she jets all over the place
in the jet. And I don't begrudge anybody who has
a private jet. I think if you have that those
resources and you want to use them, good for you.
(43:17):
But I think it's just like her connection to her
average fan base is not very there's not a lot
of overloading.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
This is where the this is where the cruelty of
Democrat positions really comes in, especially for the Democrat elites.
They advocate for things that make them feel good about
themselves that will hurt everyday people. And this is This
is on crime, this is on taxes, and the economy
is on the border. It's oh, I'm just you know,
(43:44):
we are the world man. I'm a humanitarian. I care
about climate change. I want everyone to have free everything
as long as I'm flying private and have personal chefs
and fifteen houses to go to and.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Lots of film it, lots of fenses to protect you,
lots of walls to keep you from anybody being able.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Kamala is unburdened by what has been She wants a
wall now.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Clay, It's very true.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
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Speaker 5 (45:41):
At this, it's rough. I'll be honest.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
You might need some coffee because you are having trouble.
You injured yourself playing tennis. It's hard for you to
walk right now.
Speaker 12 (45:51):
I know.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
And someone even told me maybe you should try pickleball.
I'd blessed. Have you ever tried? I've never tried it.
Every one of my neighborhood plays saying this is in
the in the in the racket sport world. If if
you are like a lifelong tennis player, which I am.
I'm not saying I'm very good, but you know I'm okay,
lifelong tennis player, and someone says try pickleball, Clay, this
(46:14):
would be like someone telling you stop watching college football
you should watch college lacrosse instead.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
You're just like, what not totally different sport. Although I
have heard lacrosse is amazing and one of my kids
is playing, and Buck, this is the embarrassing for me
as a guy who played and talked about a lot
of sports. Last year, my seventh grader was playing lacrosse.
I had to pull out my phone and look up
lacrosse rules on Wikipedia. I had no I'd never been
(46:41):
to a game. I had no idea what was going on.
I might as well have been cricket to me. You know,
sixty years ago, my dad played college lacrosse. I don't
even know the rules, so I think it's got to
my blood. Kind of popular now, yeah, I don't know.
But to be fair to you, I mean, I don't want.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
To take it.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
It's cultural appropriation, as you know, guys wearing pink shirts
with the collars up taking it from the Native Americans.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
I don't want to insult you, but I'm going to
do that to finish the week. I think your niece
so bad. I don't even think you could play pickleball
right now. Wow, I'm.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
I don't think it's probably true.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Carrie Carrey keeps aging to me, can I go get
that for you? And I'm like, no, maybe have a Dibrican.
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