September 17, 2024 • 36 mins
Thousands of Hezbollah pages blow up in Lebanon in incredibly innovative counterterrorism operation against Hezbollah.. Democrats go all-in on blaming Trump for attempts on his life. CBS News, NYT link assassination attempt to fake Springfield, Ohio bomb threats, portray would-be assassin as crazy Trump supporter. Ohio Governor Mike DeWine says bomb threats on Springfield were all prank calls from outside the country, yet media continues to blame Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
gets going right now. We've got a lot to talk
to you about today, including the aftermath of the second
assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Democrats are going all in
(00:21):
on the violence. Is Trump's fault, another person tried to
kill Trump? And the Democrats the narrative from top to
bottom all over their left wing media ecosystem, whether it's
the morning shows or the podcast they do, or what
you see on X. It's Trump's fault. It's Trump's skirt
(00:42):
was too short, so to speak. It's Trump's fault that
someone tried to take another shot at him.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It is heinous.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We will discuss some of those details with you shortly,
and how it affects the election that's now forty eight days.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I think it's forty eight days away.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Exactly forty nine right weeks from today?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Am I? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Seven weeks from today is election day?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's it's it's coming at breakneck pace here, and so
we will dive into that, including the latest polls everything else.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Also, Sean.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
P.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Diddy slash puff Daddy Combs has finally been arrested. There
had been some indicators for a while that he was
facing possible sex trafficking charges, and now I believe the
charges have come out. Racketeering money lawn not money long sorry, racketeering,
sex trafficking, why or two other things thrown in there.
(01:38):
Very serious stuff, the kind of stuff that can get
you locked away for a very long time. Those like
Clay and me, well, I mean I kind of grew
up in the nineties. Clay really more like the sixties
or the seventies. But those like Clay and me who
grew up in the nineties. P Diddy was for a
while or puff Daddy was one of the biggest things
in music. I don't know how many of you are
(02:01):
that familiar with his music, but I think he's worth
a billion dollars now, right, I think something like that.
I think he's close to that level. And so his
arrest is not something going to spend a lot of
time on. But I just think it's it's noteworthy they
finally made the arrest. It's been coming for a while.
Another story, Clay. Just breaking news here right as we
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go on air. Hundreds of Hesbela fighters in Lebanon have
been wounded or killed as their pagers speak of the
nineties as their pagers have exploded, exploded simultaneously in what
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seems to be in apparent I mean, they're never going
to admit it, right, we know Israeli policy, but it's
probably a masad. This is what everyone's assuming right now online.
I don't know who else is going to be blowing
up hundreds of pagers on Hesbela fighters at one time.
Twenty eight hundred is the latest number that they simultaneously
blew up, twenty eight hundred pagers. And if people out
(03:04):
there are like why they're using the pagers to communicate,
so they theoretically can't be tracked via cell phone seeing this,
so this is how they go about trying might be saying, like,
why are they using pagers? Am I crazy buck to think?
When I saw this story, I'm wondering, could they do
the same thing with iPhones?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, I will have to see to me there, it's
I would assume that they were able to somehow get
into the production process here and put and jury.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's one of the most brilliant counter intel counter terrorism
processes of all.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't I don't think that you can like send
a message, an electronic message to again. I don't know, okay,
I mean, but I don't think you could send a
message to a pager and just have the battery go
into some meltdown and blow. I mean, people are dead,
they killed people this. I mean there are hundreds who
they are reporting are in critical condition, meaning they may
or may not make it. You know, they've all taking
(04:00):
these shots at the hip. By the way, the hip.
For those of you who remember from the war zones,
you do not want to take this kind of a
I mean, it's it's a sort of like being hit
with a bullet. I know it's shrapnel, but you do
not want to take shrapnel at high speed through the hip.
It's a lot of bleeding, it's incredibly painful, it's very
difficult to treat. So, yeah, this is a This is
(04:21):
a pretty stunning operation and it just happened before we
came on the air class. Twenty eight hundred are are
wounded by this. Hundreds are maybe going to die. It
depends on you know, their how it goes for them
in the hospital. Point here being this is a gloves
or off moment when it comes to counter terrorism from again,
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the assumption is they'll never confirm it because of Israeli policy.
So to be clear, anyone who's like, well we have
to wait, Israel's going to say we don't comment on
this kind of stuff. So you know, you can say
I believe it's Israel. You can say I don't believe
it's Israel. Most people who follow national security are assuming
that it's in Israeli op against Hesbelah. You know, Clay,
They they they're known they've been able to use cell
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phone signals for missile track you know, to have a
missile scent basically, so your cell phone can become almost
like the heat signature for a heat seeking missile, except
it's at your cell signal. These railies are very technically
savvy and are able to do things like that. So
this is going low tech to avoid the high text
surveillance and targeting that can be used against cell phones.
(05:28):
And the Israelis figured this one out too. If any
of you have seen the wire, it's very similar concept
of Clay.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You've obviously seen the wire. You love the wire.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, they go to they go to pagers because they
don't want people talking on phones, and they know that
they can't they can't have active listening set up on
all the different phones in the Baltimore projects, same basic
idea with Hesbelah, but this is a this is a
like wow operation. I mean, I've never heard of this before. However,
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they pull this off, we'll find out more, I'm sure,
and the days ahead the details of it. I wanted
to turn our attention, Clay, unless there's anything else that's
big and pressing on your mind into how they've really decided.
Going back to the Trump second attempt at assassination, I
think they've stopped using the word apparent now.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So that's good.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
We can all agree that a guy set up with
a rifle to kill Trump is an assassination attempt, right, Like,
we don't have to sit around and parse this any further.
He's been charged, he's being held. Ron DeSantis is step
forward as governor Florida has said it's going to be
a Florida investigation of this, because I did you.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
See the press conference play this morning?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I did not, but I saw the tweets about the
press conference, which I mean, he's the only person I've
seen talking about the direct conflict of the FBI conducting
investigations into tried to kill Trump while putting Trump trying
to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life.
It's in an untenable conflict. I mean, it's why I
said right after the first assassination attempt that all charges
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should be dropped against Trump because they can't conduct the investigation.
Good for him for actually talking about it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
He is going to have the state of Florida because
he says the highest crime here is attempted murder, which
is obviously obviously true. So he's going to have the
State of Florida do a full, full investigation of this
and has assigned it to the top investigative authorities in
the state, in my home state. So that is moving along.
But Clay, there's so little time here that I think
(07:27):
the media is even more clumsy about this than they
would normally be. They've just got to shut this down
and create a new narrative right away. We talked about
it yesterday. I mean they tried to memory hole the
first one quickly. This one they're not even pretending. I
mean they're trying to smother this story with a pillow
right in front of everybody. They just don't care. And
(07:50):
the way they're doing it, and we saw the hints
of this over the Weekend. This is Nora O'Donnell over
at CBS, again the sort of top gold standard legacy
media outlets. He or she is saying that Trump is
responsible for the accusations against residents of Springfield, Ohio, which
has led to bomb threats against them.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So that's the violence to be worried about. Play one.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Donald Trump is blaming Democrats for inflaming political rhetoric, but
the former president's own words seem to be increasing the
threat of political violence in Springfield, Ohio. That's where a
false and ugly accusation against Haitians, thousands of whom our
legal permanent residents, is impacting everyday life.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Clay, the switch here is just stunning, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, someone wanted to kill Trump again, but he said
something about Haitians, and from overseas someone called in a
hoax bomb threat, and that's Trump's fault.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
This is important. And I read the New York Times
in the Washington Post every day, so a lot of
you don't have to, and I still read the print.
Here is the front page print New York Times article
about the Trump second assassination attempt. The headline is the
anger that defines and threaten Trump's the anger that defines
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and threatens Trump. Buck, Listen to these first two paragraphs.
This is the open if you'd only read the New
York Times. You consider yourself to be an educated citizen,
and you only read the New York Times, listen to this.
Within days of former President Donald Trump vilifying immigrants on
national television with false stories about Haitian migrants eating pet
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dogs and cats, in an Ohio town, someone began threatening
to blow up school, city hall and other public buildings,
forcing evacuations and prompting a wave of fear. That is
the lead paragraph of a story that is ostensibly about
Donald Trump's second assassination. You have to go to the
(09:53):
second paragraph, Buck to read this. Days later, authority said,
a man who discribes ride himself online is a disaffected
former Trump supporter made his way with a semi automatic
rifle to former President's Florida's golf course, evidently looking to
take a shot. Okay, they start by what is a falsehood.
(10:16):
We'll play the Mike DeWine clip for you, saying all
thirty three bomb threats in Springfield, Ohio that have been
blamed on Trump and Vance actually originated from overseas actors
who are trying to influence our election, in my opinion,
and make Trump advance look bad. But think about this book.
They described this would be shooter as a disaffected former
(10:40):
Trump supporter. I read the entire newspaper this morning. No
mention in the New York Times of the fact that
this guy had donated nineteen different times to Democrats, No
mention of the fact that he specifically cited democracy as
being on the ballot responding to Trump, no mention of
(11:00):
him saying that, to my knowledge anywhere that I read
that he had a Harris a Biden Harris bumper sticker
on his truck. If you just read the New York Times,
you would not know that that was a made up
story about the thirty three bomb threats, and you might think, oh,
this is just a Trump supporter who's mad at Trump
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that is trying to kill him. That is the storyline
that they have all agreed to. And there are lots
of intelligent people that don't leave their media silos. It's
why I read the New York Times. I want to
know what they're saying. They're just describing this guy as
a crazy former Trump supporter and trying to put this
on Trump.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
There's no shame, right, I mean, that's the thing I
to understand part of this process of even just supporting
Kamala Harris. Now it doesn't whatever they've said before, whatever
the old guidelines were, whatever integrity they were supposed to
try to upholp it, it's all thrown out the window.
You're seeing. The only principle of the Democrat media and
(12:07):
the Democrat Party is how do we get power?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And if that means that they have to look at
the American people in the eye and say manifestly crazy
things McClay what you just described as the position, this
is lunatic stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, this is up there with like.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I don't know, maybe the guy who shot at Trump
really likes Trump, Like what is wrong with people? Well,
they have to at least throw confusion into the mix.
I'm gonna say this, and it's something that's been on
my mind this whole time. You know, on the one hand,
we say, isn't this, you know, historically just astonishing and
really terrifying that the country is teetering on the brink
(12:46):
of a presidential assassination for the second time, Or was
teetering on the brink. But we're also not talking about
what an incompetent Kamala Harris is and how the Biden
administration has been a total flop and Kamala is a
part of it, and she doesn't do any interviews, you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
We're sitting here saying, look at the insane stuff that
they're saying about the Trump assassination attempt, and that takes
us away from what may be the even more potent
politically line of attack or a line of discussion, which
is I mean, Kamala Harris is the worst presidential candidate
in my lifetime. Honestly, maybe Dukakis, but you've got to
(13:24):
go back a long ways for somebody who is just
so unimpressive and so incapable of being effective really in
any respect.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
That's why they're hiding her. And we'll come back and
we'll place. I think it's important for us to take
you behind the left wing wall. This is how people
end up voting for Kamala. There are a lot of
people in silos. Whatever you think, we expose you to
what the left is saying, Is there anybody that does
that in an honest way that speaks to the left
(13:54):
I saw can we get the audio of Also, by
the way of Howard Stern's that he doesn't want anybody
who is a Trump supporter to listen to his show anymore.
I actually have the exact opposite take. I wish Kamala
supporters would listen to this show. I really do, because
I think it would force them to at least consider
(14:15):
some of the opinions that they have. But I do
think it's interesting that Stern was on his show screaming yesterday,
the day after Trump was nearly assassinated again, that he
didn't want a single Trump supporter to be listening to
his show.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah. I don't know. I never liked stern show anyway.
It didn't like the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So I'm happy to see that he's showing everybody what
a neurotic lunatic he is. You know, he could count
as hundreds of millions all day, but to turn on
half your audience just I don't get. I can't imagine
you know, doing that after the relationship.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I mean, argue with me.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Here, wouldn't you love if we could wave a magic
wand and we had a million Kamala voters in a
battleground state that we're going to listen to this program
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I would welcome them.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I think.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I think that there are a lot of people who
if they were forced to listen to us three hours
a day, they would they would have to abandon some
of their Democrat beliefs. We have some of them listening
to us. Yes, we have people who have been I
would love to have them. Yeah, no, I know, but
just that's what I'm saying. I mean, just sort of
spit in the face of half of your audience, as
Howard Stern has done it. Just it just shows, I mean,
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We're talking about the aftermath of the well really the
media aftermath of that assassination attempt down here in Florida
on President Trump and the way the media is positioning it.
Clay had mentioned this before. There are some out there
in the media who are taking the position that it
was a Trump supporter who was setting up or a
(17:27):
disaffected Trump supporter who was setting up on him. That
the violence in politics right now is all Trump's fault.
This is an amazing formulation. Even violence against Trump is
Trump's fault or tempted violence, although he did get shot
in the ear because Trump. That's that's really where we
are now. I mean, these people are there. There's like
a real kind of a brain damage or a brain
(17:50):
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talk about this here and also give you updates on
this exploding pager situation over in Lebanon and now Syria too.
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Speaker 7 (18:52):
The problem is that Donald Trump, who I think you know.
If you were doing hurricane categories, he's hurricane category five.
The other side might be a two and Donald Trump
and Jade Vans are not questioning their rhetoric right now
because of their rhetoric, because of what he said.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
In that debate.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
There's been thirty three.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Bombing threats in Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
That would not have happened but for.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
This stalls conspiracy theory being spread by the vice presidential
and presidential Republican candidate. And those patients in Springfield, Ohio
and those students and the people that are victims of
these threats and everything that's going on there don't have
twenty four to seven a secret service, right, They're on
their own.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Okay, there's a lot to unpack your that's over at
the view Anna Navarrow. She's an imbecile. But let's just
let's look at some of these things. First of all,
there is a difference between this person is hitler and
going to end the country. And there's a problem of
too many migrants pulling on social services and creating chaos
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and disorder in an area. We a government have to
address this. And yes, perhaps some practices involving the capture
of geese or ducks or whatever in the park or
even a cat is something that has been reported by locals.
Let's look at this right, you say somebody is hitler
and going to end the country, you're saying that that
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person is deserving a violence. No one's saying that a
person is deserving a violence because they're a poor migrant
reliant on social services who is drawing too much from
the welfare and everything else in a certain area. Right,
Because what happens is if you believe what they're saying
here Clay about any criticism of Springfield is inviting violence
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against the migrants there. Well, we're not allowed to criticize.
So now we're just allowed to be invaded by migrants,
millions and millions of them, and you can say nothing
because you give a lunatics veto over any discussion of
the policy. When we talk about the things with Trump,
we're saying there are specific allegations they make that if true,
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a reasonable person, a reasonable person would think that violence
was justified. And that's the difference if you really believe
this is what we're saying, If you really believe someone's
hitler and going to you know, lead to the murder
of millions and the destruction of societies, don't you need
to stop that person? Aren't you morally obligated now, of
(21:24):
course Trump is not Hitler. It's a crazy allegation. But
the point is the things that they are saying are
so outside of the bounds of normal political discourse. And
then they turn around they qus Trump I hadn't even
gotten to the fact that, I mean, we mentioned it.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's all probably coming from some prankster in Belarus or something.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I mean this is the calls are all coming from
one source overseas, and Trump's responsible for that.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
A couple of things. Yes, Governor Mike Dowaine of Ohio
has said all thirty three calls, almost all of them
originated from overseas, their hoaxes. You would think that if
you had an honest media, they would walk back all
of the criticism of Trump and the blaming of him
because of the Springfield, Ohio story. But what you hit
on is I think really important. There was more criticism
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of Trump for questioning Kamala Harris's racial identity then there
has been of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden for using
language that has unquestionably motivated at least the second assassination attempt,
and I think fairly the first. And let me just
say this as a general rule, if someone tries to
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kill someone else they hate that person. I don't think
there are very many times in history people are like, oh,
we're not really sure what the motivations of these would
be assassins might be. Let me give you a rough idea.
If you try to blow someone's head off you don't
like them, can you buck think of any story in
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our lives where someone has tried to kill someone because
they're such a die hard fan of them and they
love them so much. Typically, love doesn't lead to I'm
going to blow your head off and kill you.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So the very number one best sign that these people
were not fans of Trump is that they tried to
kill him to blow his head off. Secondly, there's a
big deal here. There is a very big difference between
saying Kamala Harris's policies are going to lead to failure
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at the border, increased inflation, way too high of costs
at the grocery store. Those are the things that Trump
and Dvance are saying about Kamala and Walls and saying
if Trump wins democracy ends, he's our version of Hitler.
Those are not actual criticisms of Trump's policies. They are
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direct attacks upon him, which are designed, in my opinion,
to motivate their base that believes, oh, he's Hitler. We
have to show up democracies at stake. But then every
time someone tries to kill him, they immediately release a
statement and say, oh, violence is never the answer. If
and this is so important, I think we all need
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to hammer at home. If you truly thought Trump was Hitler,
you should be honest and say, hey, I wish he
hadn't missed, because if it was actually Hitler, we talked
about this, We had a big debate ethically, would just
mother baby Hitler?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
For years people have talked about this on an ethical question,
If you really thought your opponent was Hitler, you should
react by saying, damn, I wish he hadn't missed. That's
actually honest. But they know if they said that, they
would get trounced in the election because moderate voters would
turn against them, even if their base would say, yeah,
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good for you, you're right, we need to blow his
head off.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And this is like the story Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the Lutheran
minister who was part of the plot to kill Hitler
with a bomb after having been initially a pacifist who
just you know, wasn't thinking that people should take up
arms that defend themselves. Bonhoeffer in the end is like,
we got to stop this Hitler guy. Yeah, whatever, we
got to do. But then there's Joy Reid out there
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who is saying that it is in fact a Trump
that they have both been. They have both been Trump
supporters who have tried to kill Trump. This is clip fourteen.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Guess where Trump now says he's going to start the
bloody mass deportations Springfield. Of course, all of this as
Trump faces his second rush with death via a gunman
shooting at him in Palm Beach, Florida, just as happened
in Pennsylvania, neither of whom were Haitian or any kind
of immigrant, both of whom are white American Trump supporting
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men with guns.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, so whyuck? But if you just this is important.
I think it's important for you to understand what you
would see if you watched MSNBC, what you would read
if you were reading the New York Times. They aren't
giving their audience the actual full background of this guy.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
They're lying to them. Of course, they're line to you.
But Clay I mean, unless I miss something, she's saying
that two people try to shoot Trump or Trump supporters. Yes,
that's exactly what she's saying. How could anything be dumber
and crazier than that? How who's in charge of news
at ms I'm like, who's the boss over at MSNBC.
There's somebody. I don't know the person's name is anymore.
How could you not feel embarrassed to be having somebody
(26:37):
say this on television? Well, the way that they're their
way that they're justifying it, I'll tell you. In twenty sixteen,
this guy voted for Trump. So they're saying that everything
that he's done since twenty sixteen, the nineteen donations to Democrats,
voting for Joe Biden, the Harris Biden sorry, the Biden
Harris bumper sticker on his car, and the fact that
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he tried to kill Trump, none of that matters. They're
not sharing those facts. They're using selectively the fact that
this crazy guy voted for him in sixteen.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And then they're also saying that this would be killer
In Butler, Pennsylvania had said at some point in time
that he was a Republican. So they're trying to say
both of these are Trump supporters in satl Penprick. Yes,
this is insane because how they're justifying it. As anybody
who is paying attention can see, some of the people
who hate Trump in the most irrational, unhinged ways are
(27:32):
are former Republicans.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Morning Joe.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I mean, look at Joe Scarvert, look at some of
the people that will say absolutely anything they hate Trump.
There are Republicans, and some of them have even started
special little anti Trump publications and podcasts. There are Republicans
who hate Trump so much and it really is a
personal thing for them that they will join arm in
arm with the you know castraight your teenager for the
(27:58):
LGBTQ plus agenda, wide open borders, spend us into oblivion,
don't actually enforce the law against maniacs on the streets
clubbing old ladies for fun. They'll join arms with them
to attack Trump. So I would just put out there
that some of the people that are that hate Trump
in the most deranged ways are actually people that are
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nominally have been Republican in the past.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Dick and Liz Cheney, I mean, right, I mean, think
about you mentioned it yesterday on the show, But you
want to talk about a crazy career arc. Dick Cheney
has gone from Satan in the mind of left wingers
to Kamala Harris bragging about him voting for her last
week during the debate a week ago today. That's kind
(28:45):
of how wild.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You could argue the failures of the Bush Cheney administration
over the course of eight years, with the long term implications,
in particular of the of the so called War on Terror,
delivered us into a more left wing, progressive, collectivist America
than any of us could have imagined to the twenty
first century, because all of a sudden, we're spending trillions
(29:08):
of dollars and losing thousands and thousands of brave Americans left.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
For what, oh, what provocative thought. Dick Cheney was wronger
on Iraq than any American politician has been on any
issue in the twenty first century in terms of what
it cost America. You can make that argument because what
(29:32):
did we gain from the trillions of dollars we spent
on Iraq? What did we gain from the trillions of
dollars we spent on Afghanistan? Now COVID is an unmitigated disaster, certainly,
but Dick Cheney drove the bus on. We need to
invade Iraq, we need to try to remake Afghanistan. Twenty
some odd years later, we spent trillions of dollars. We're
(29:53):
now thirty five trillions dollars in debt. We lost tens
of thousands of American lives. Fuck, you've been there. How
much better are Afghanistan in Iraq today that if we
had never gone in there at all?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Oh, you could argue Afghanistan is substantially worse today than
it was actually before we got in it, just in
terms of how it is for the Afghan people, because
now they know that the Taliban's running that country for
the next fifty to one hundred years. That's nothing's changing
over there. So the and the resistance that we had
worked with, how could they ever trust any outside forces
(30:25):
or anybody to work with them after what happened under
Biden's watch.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
It's a it's a a ten Iraq.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Does Iraq feel like a really burgeoning spring of democracy
in the Middle East?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
To?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
In fact, people could argue it would have been better
to have the Iraqis and the Iranians at each other
so we wouldn't have had to mess with it so much.
So look at it was a it was a very
painful lesson. But I just think it's interesting that that
the sort of Bush Cheney axis would come forward now.
I think it's a very important point. We talk about
all these Republicans who don't like Trump, that what exactly
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was the America that they were supporting. By the way,
Bush was a huge Bush was basically an open border's
amnesty guy. Bush was terrible on immigration issues.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So the first start I liked about Trump in sixteen
was that he said, yeah, we blew it on Iraq,
because a lot of Republicans wouldn't say it because Bush
and Cheney were involved. When he ran he said, no,
that was an awful decision. I'm going to keep us
out of wars. I'm not going to spend money overseas.
I said, to hell, yeah, he's right on that.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I think that the they were planning for a future
Bush dynasties, and I think the whole generation of Republican
leadership because of the eight years of the Bush Cheney administrations,
was effectively taken out from being a serious contenders for
the presidency because if you had a hand in that disaster,
(31:46):
it just wasn't gonna work. I mean, you know it
wasn't gonna work. Look, look what happened. You know, war
hero John McCain ran against Barack Obama and got smoked.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, it wasn't even close. So yeah, that's what we're
dealing with.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Well, look, we got a administration right now. We got
a president who may not get out of bed till noon.
He spends most of his time it feels like on vacation,
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Buck.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
When we come back, I want to play some audio
of Hillary Clinton last night on MSNBC. She said a
couple of things that I thought were pretty outrageous in
her interview with Rachel Maddow. One was that she believes
there need to be criminal consequences for quote unquote misinformation
on the Internet. That's a staggering statement for someone of
(36:00):
her level of political standing to be making. The other
one was she basically didn't even give Trump a day
of grace. She immediately doubled down on he's a direct
threat to democracy and if he's elected, there's going to
be major consequences, and she called out the media to
be covering him as such. We need to play both
of those again to give you an idea of what
(36:22):
their arguments are. But we were just talking about off air.
You can see it happen. It only took two days,
forty eight hours. They have decided this is Trump supporters
who are drained trying to kill Trump. Now that's their
narrative that they are spinning to their fan base of
why two people have tried to kill Trump because Trump
radicalized his own base. It's important to understand what they're saying.
(36:46):
That is the reality. We come back, we'll play all
that for you and more here on the Tuesday Edisu
Welcome in Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
gets going right now. We've got a lot to talk
to you about today, including the aftermath of the second
assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Democrats are going all in
(00:21):
on the violence. Is Trump's fault, another person tried to
kill Trump? And the Democrats the narrative from top to
bottom all over their left wing media ecosystem, whether it's
the morning shows or the podcast they do, or what
you see on X. It's Trump's fault. It's Trump's skirt
(00:42):
was too short, so to speak. It's Trump's fault that
someone tried to take another shot at him.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It is heinous.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We will discuss some of those details with you shortly,
and how it affects the election that's now forty eight days.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I think it's forty eight days away.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Exactly forty nine right weeks from today?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Am I? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Seven weeks from today is election day?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's it's it's coming at breakneck pace here, and so
we will dive into that, including the latest polls everything else.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Also, Sean.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
P.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Diddy slash puff Daddy Combs has finally been arrested. There
had been some indicators for a while that he was
facing possible sex trafficking charges, and now I believe the
charges have come out. Racketeering money lawn not money long sorry, racketeering,
sex trafficking, why or two other things thrown in there.
(01:38):
Very serious stuff, the kind of stuff that can get
you locked away for a very long time. Those like
Clay and me, well, I mean I kind of grew
up in the nineties. Clay really more like the sixties
or the seventies. But those like Clay and me who
grew up in the nineties. P Diddy was for a
while or puff Daddy was one of the biggest things
in music. I don't know how many of you are
(02:01):
that familiar with his music, but I think he's worth
a billion dollars now, right, I think something like that.
I think he's close to that level. And so his
arrest is not something going to spend a lot of
time on. But I just think it's it's noteworthy they
finally made the arrest. It's been coming for a while.
Another story, Clay. Just breaking news here right as we
(02:22):
go on air. Hundreds of Hesbela fighters in Lebanon have
been wounded or killed as their pagers speak of the
nineties as their pagers have exploded, exploded simultaneously in what
(02:42):
seems to be in apparent I mean, they're never going
to admit it, right, we know Israeli policy, but it's
probably a masad. This is what everyone's assuming right now online.
I don't know who else is going to be blowing
up hundreds of pagers on Hesbela fighters at one time.
Twenty eight hundred is the latest number that they simultaneously
blew up, twenty eight hundred pagers. And if people out
(03:04):
there are like why they're using the pagers to communicate,
so they theoretically can't be tracked via cell phone seeing this,
so this is how they go about trying might be saying, like,
why are they using pagers? Am I crazy buck to think?
When I saw this story, I'm wondering, could they do
the same thing with iPhones?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, I will have to see to me there, it's
I would assume that they were able to somehow get
into the production process here and put and jury.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's one of the most brilliant counter intel counter terrorism
processes of all.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't I don't think that you can like send
a message, an electronic message to again. I don't know, okay,
I mean, but I don't think you could send a
message to a pager and just have the battery go
into some meltdown and blow. I mean, people are dead,
they killed people this. I mean there are hundreds who
they are reporting are in critical condition, meaning they may
or may not make it. You know, they've all taking
(04:00):
these shots at the hip. By the way, the hip.
For those of you who remember from the war zones,
you do not want to take this kind of a
I mean, it's it's a sort of like being hit
with a bullet. I know it's shrapnel, but you do
not want to take shrapnel at high speed through the hip.
It's a lot of bleeding, it's incredibly painful, it's very
difficult to treat. So, yeah, this is a This is
(04:21):
a pretty stunning operation and it just happened before we
came on the air class. Twenty eight hundred are are
wounded by this. Hundreds are maybe going to die. It
depends on you know, their how it goes for them
in the hospital. Point here being this is a gloves
or off moment when it comes to counter terrorism from again,
(04:43):
the assumption is they'll never confirm it because of Israeli policy.
So to be clear, anyone who's like, well we have
to wait, Israel's going to say we don't comment on
this kind of stuff. So you know, you can say
I believe it's Israel. You can say I don't believe
it's Israel. Most people who follow national security are assuming
that it's in Israeli op against Hesbelah. You know, Clay,
They they they're known they've been able to use cell
(05:05):
phone signals for missile track you know, to have a
missile scent basically, so your cell phone can become almost
like the heat signature for a heat seeking missile, except
it's at your cell signal. These railies are very technically
savvy and are able to do things like that. So
this is going low tech to avoid the high text
surveillance and targeting that can be used against cell phones.
(05:28):
And the Israelis figured this one out too. If any
of you have seen the wire, it's very similar concept
of Clay.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You've obviously seen the wire. You love the wire.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, they go to they go to pagers because they
don't want people talking on phones, and they know that
they can't they can't have active listening set up on
all the different phones in the Baltimore projects, same basic
idea with Hesbelah, but this is a this is a
like wow operation. I mean, I've never heard of this before. However,
(05:55):
they pull this off, we'll find out more, I'm sure,
and the days ahead the details of it. I wanted
to turn our attention, Clay, unless there's anything else that's
big and pressing on your mind into how they've really decided.
Going back to the Trump second attempt at assassination, I
think they've stopped using the word apparent now.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So that's good.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
We can all agree that a guy set up with
a rifle to kill Trump is an assassination attempt, right, Like,
we don't have to sit around and parse this any further.
He's been charged, he's being held. Ron DeSantis is step
forward as governor Florida has said it's going to be
a Florida investigation of this, because I did you.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
See the press conference play this morning?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I did not, but I saw the tweets about the
press conference, which I mean, he's the only person I've
seen talking about the direct conflict of the FBI conducting
investigations into tried to kill Trump while putting Trump trying
to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life.
It's in an untenable conflict. I mean, it's why I
said right after the first assassination attempt that all charges
(06:56):
should be dropped against Trump because they can't conduct the investigation.
Good for him for actually talking about it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
He is going to have the state of Florida because
he says the highest crime here is attempted murder, which
is obviously obviously true. So he's going to have the
State of Florida do a full, full investigation of this
and has assigned it to the top investigative authorities in
the state, in my home state. So that is moving along.
But Clay, there's so little time here that I think
(07:27):
the media is even more clumsy about this than they
would normally be. They've just got to shut this down
and create a new narrative right away. We talked about
it yesterday. I mean they tried to memory hole the
first one quickly. This one they're not even pretending. I
mean they're trying to smother this story with a pillow
right in front of everybody. They just don't care. And
(07:50):
the way they're doing it, and we saw the hints
of this over the Weekend. This is Nora O'Donnell over
at CBS, again the sort of top gold standard legacy
media outlets. He or she is saying that Trump is
responsible for the accusations against residents of Springfield, Ohio, which
has led to bomb threats against them.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So that's the violence to be worried about. Play one.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Donald Trump is blaming Democrats for inflaming political rhetoric, but
the former president's own words seem to be increasing the
threat of political violence in Springfield, Ohio. That's where a
false and ugly accusation against Haitians, thousands of whom our
legal permanent residents, is impacting everyday life.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Clay, the switch here is just stunning, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, someone wanted to kill Trump again, but he said
something about Haitians, and from overseas someone called in a
hoax bomb threat, and that's Trump's fault.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
This is important. And I read the New York Times
in the Washington Post every day, so a lot of
you don't have to, and I still read the print.
Here is the front page print New York Times article
about the Trump second assassination attempt. The headline is the
anger that defines and threaten Trump's the anger that defines
(09:10):
and threatens Trump. Buck, Listen to these first two paragraphs.
This is the open if you'd only read the New
York Times. You consider yourself to be an educated citizen,
and you only read the New York Times, listen to this.
Within days of former President Donald Trump vilifying immigrants on
national television with false stories about Haitian migrants eating pet
(09:32):
dogs and cats, in an Ohio town, someone began threatening
to blow up school, city hall and other public buildings,
forcing evacuations and prompting a wave of fear. That is
the lead paragraph of a story that is ostensibly about
Donald Trump's second assassination. You have to go to the
(09:53):
second paragraph, Buck to read this. Days later, authority said,
a man who discribes ride himself online is a disaffected
former Trump supporter made his way with a semi automatic
rifle to former President's Florida's golf course, evidently looking to
take a shot. Okay, they start by what is a falsehood.
(10:16):
We'll play the Mike DeWine clip for you, saying all
thirty three bomb threats in Springfield, Ohio that have been
blamed on Trump and Vance actually originated from overseas actors
who are trying to influence our election, in my opinion,
and make Trump advance look bad. But think about this book.
They described this would be shooter as a disaffected former
(10:40):
Trump supporter. I read the entire newspaper this morning. No
mention in the New York Times of the fact that
this guy had donated nineteen different times to Democrats, No
mention of the fact that he specifically cited democracy as
being on the ballot responding to Trump, no mention of
(11:00):
him saying that, to my knowledge anywhere that I read
that he had a Harris a Biden Harris bumper sticker
on his truck. If you just read the New York Times,
you would not know that that was a made up
story about the thirty three bomb threats, and you might think, oh,
this is just a Trump supporter who's mad at Trump
(11:23):
that is trying to kill him. That is the storyline
that they have all agreed to. And there are lots
of intelligent people that don't leave their media silos. It's
why I read the New York Times. I want to
know what they're saying. They're just describing this guy as
a crazy former Trump supporter and trying to put this
on Trump.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
There's no shame, right, I mean, that's the thing I
to understand part of this process of even just supporting
Kamala Harris. Now it doesn't whatever they've said before, whatever
the old guidelines were, whatever integrity they were supposed to
try to upholp it, it's all thrown out the window.
You're seeing. The only principle of the Democrat media and
(12:07):
the Democrat Party is how do we get power?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And if that means that they have to look at
the American people in the eye and say manifestly crazy
things McClay what you just described as the position, this
is lunatic stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, this is up there with like.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I don't know, maybe the guy who shot at Trump
really likes Trump, Like what is wrong with people? Well,
they have to at least throw confusion into the mix.
I'm gonna say this, and it's something that's been on
my mind this whole time. You know, on the one hand,
we say, isn't this, you know, historically just astonishing and
really terrifying that the country is teetering on the brink
(12:46):
of a presidential assassination for the second time, Or was
teetering on the brink. But we're also not talking about
what an incompetent Kamala Harris is and how the Biden
administration has been a total flop and Kamala is a
part of it, and she doesn't do any interviews, you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
We're sitting here saying, look at the insane stuff that
they're saying about the Trump assassination attempt, and that takes
us away from what may be the even more potent
politically line of attack or a line of discussion, which
is I mean, Kamala Harris is the worst presidential candidate
in my lifetime. Honestly, maybe Dukakis, but you've got to
(13:24):
go back a long ways for somebody who is just
so unimpressive and so incapable of being effective really in
any respect.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
That's why they're hiding her. And we'll come back and
we'll place. I think it's important for us to take
you behind the left wing wall. This is how people
end up voting for Kamala. There are a lot of
people in silos. Whatever you think, we expose you to
what the left is saying, Is there anybody that does
that in an honest way that speaks to the left
(13:54):
I saw can we get the audio of Also, by
the way of Howard Stern's that he doesn't want anybody
who is a Trump supporter to listen to his show anymore.
I actually have the exact opposite take. I wish Kamala
supporters would listen to this show. I really do, because
I think it would force them to at least consider
(14:15):
some of the opinions that they have. But I do
think it's interesting that Stern was on his show screaming yesterday,
the day after Trump was nearly assassinated again, that he
didn't want a single Trump supporter to be listening to
his show.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah. I don't know. I never liked stern show anyway.
It didn't like the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So I'm happy to see that he's showing everybody what
a neurotic lunatic he is. You know, he could count
as hundreds of millions all day, but to turn on
half your audience just I don't get. I can't imagine
you know, doing that after the relationship.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I mean, argue with me.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Here, wouldn't you love if we could wave a magic
wand and we had a million Kamala voters in a
battleground state that we're going to listen to this program
for the next forty eight forty nine days. Wouldn't you
love to have them listening to this program? I mean,
I would welcome them.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I think.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I think that there are a lot of people who
if they were forced to listen to us three hours
a day, they would they would have to abandon some
of their Democrat beliefs. We have some of them listening
to us. Yes, we have people who have been I
would love to have them. Yeah, no, I know, but
just that's what I'm saying. I mean, just sort of
spit in the face of half of your audience, as
Howard Stern has done it. Just it just shows, I mean,
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We're talking about the aftermath of the well really the
media aftermath of that assassination attempt down here in Florida
on President Trump and the way the media is positioning it.
Clay had mentioned this before. There are some out there
in the media who are taking the position that it
was a Trump supporter who was setting up or a
(17:27):
disaffected Trump supporter who was setting up on him. That
the violence in politics right now is all Trump's fault.
This is an amazing formulation. Even violence against Trump is
Trump's fault or tempted violence, although he did get shot
in the ear because Trump. That's that's really where we
are now. I mean, these people are there. There's like
a real kind of a brain damage or a brain
(17:50):
virus that has infected the left. And we'll continue to
talk about this here and also give you updates on
this exploding pager situation over in Lebanon and now Syria too.
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Speaker 7 (18:52):
The problem is that Donald Trump, who I think you know.
If you were doing hurricane categories, he's hurricane category five.
The other side might be a two and Donald Trump
and Jade Vans are not questioning their rhetoric right now
because of their rhetoric, because of what he said.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
In that debate.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
There's been thirty three.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Bombing threats in Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
That would not have happened but for.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
This stalls conspiracy theory being spread by the vice presidential
and presidential Republican candidate. And those patients in Springfield, Ohio
and those students and the people that are victims of
these threats and everything that's going on there don't have
twenty four to seven a secret service, right, They're on
their own.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Okay, there's a lot to unpack your that's over at
the view Anna Navarrow. She's an imbecile. But let's just
let's look at some of these things. First of all,
there is a difference between this person is hitler and
going to end the country. And there's a problem of
too many migrants pulling on social services and creating chaos
(19:58):
and disorder in an area. We a government have to
address this. And yes, perhaps some practices involving the capture
of geese or ducks or whatever in the park or
even a cat is something that has been reported by locals.
Let's look at this right, you say somebody is hitler
and going to end the country, you're saying that that
(20:20):
person is deserving a violence. No one's saying that a
person is deserving a violence because they're a poor migrant
reliant on social services who is drawing too much from
the welfare and everything else in a certain area. Right,
Because what happens is if you believe what they're saying
here Clay about any criticism of Springfield is inviting violence
(20:40):
against the migrants there. Well, we're not allowed to criticize.
So now we're just allowed to be invaded by migrants,
millions and millions of them, and you can say nothing
because you give a lunatics veto over any discussion of
the policy. When we talk about the things with Trump,
we're saying there are specific allegations they make that if true,
(21:02):
a reasonable person, a reasonable person would think that violence
was justified. And that's the difference if you really believe
this is what we're saying, If you really believe someone's
hitler and going to you know, lead to the murder
of millions and the destruction of societies, don't you need
to stop that person? Aren't you morally obligated now, of
(21:24):
course Trump is not Hitler. It's a crazy allegation. But
the point is the things that they are saying are
so outside of the bounds of normal political discourse. And
then they turn around they qus Trump I hadn't even
gotten to the fact that, I mean, we mentioned it.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's all probably coming from some prankster in Belarus or something.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I mean this is the calls are all coming from
one source overseas, and Trump's responsible for that.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
A couple of things. Yes, Governor Mike Dowaine of Ohio
has said all thirty three calls, almost all of them
originated from overseas, their hoaxes. You would think that if
you had an honest media, they would walk back all
of the criticism of Trump and the blaming of him
because of the Springfield, Ohio story. But what you hit
on is I think really important. There was more criticism
(22:13):
of Trump for questioning Kamala Harris's racial identity then there
has been of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden for using
language that has unquestionably motivated at least the second assassination attempt,
and I think fairly the first. And let me just
say this as a general rule, if someone tries to
(22:36):
kill someone else they hate that person. I don't think
there are very many times in history people are like, oh,
we're not really sure what the motivations of these would
be assassins might be. Let me give you a rough idea.
If you try to blow someone's head off you don't
like them, can you buck think of any story in
(22:58):
our lives where someone has tried to kill someone because
they're such a die hard fan of them and they
love them so much. Typically, love doesn't lead to I'm
going to blow your head off and kill you.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So the very number one best sign that these people
were not fans of Trump is that they tried to
kill him to blow his head off. Secondly, there's a
big deal here. There is a very big difference between
saying Kamala Harris's policies are going to lead to failure
(23:34):
at the border, increased inflation, way too high of costs
at the grocery store. Those are the things that Trump
and Dvance are saying about Kamala and Walls and saying
if Trump wins democracy ends, he's our version of Hitler.
Those are not actual criticisms of Trump's policies. They are
(23:56):
direct attacks upon him, which are designed, in my opinion,
to motivate their base that believes, oh, he's Hitler. We
have to show up democracies at stake. But then every
time someone tries to kill him, they immediately release a
statement and say, oh, violence is never the answer. If
and this is so important, I think we all need
(24:17):
to hammer at home. If you truly thought Trump was Hitler,
you should be honest and say, hey, I wish he
hadn't missed, because if it was actually Hitler, we talked
about this, We had a big debate ethically, would just
mother baby Hitler?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
For years people have talked about this on an ethical question,
If you really thought your opponent was Hitler, you should
react by saying, damn, I wish he hadn't missed. That's
actually honest. But they know if they said that, they
would get trounced in the election because moderate voters would
turn against them, even if their base would say, yeah,
(24:55):
good for you, you're right, we need to blow his
head off.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And this is like the story Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the Lutheran
minister who was part of the plot to kill Hitler
with a bomb after having been initially a pacifist who
just you know, wasn't thinking that people should take up
arms that defend themselves. Bonhoeffer in the end is like,
we got to stop this Hitler guy. Yeah, whatever, we
got to do. But then there's Joy Reid out there
(25:22):
who is saying that it is in fact a Trump
that they have both been. They have both been Trump
supporters who have tried to kill Trump. This is clip fourteen.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Guess where Trump now says he's going to start the
bloody mass deportations Springfield. Of course, all of this as
Trump faces his second rush with death via a gunman
shooting at him in Palm Beach, Florida, just as happened
in Pennsylvania, neither of whom were Haitian or any kind
of immigrant, both of whom are white American Trump supporting
(25:56):
men with guns.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, so whyuck? But if you just this is important.
I think it's important for you to understand what you
would see if you watched MSNBC, what you would read
if you were reading the New York Times. They aren't
giving their audience the actual full background of this guy.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
They're lying to them. Of course, they're line to you.
But Clay I mean, unless I miss something, she's saying
that two people try to shoot Trump or Trump supporters. Yes,
that's exactly what she's saying. How could anything be dumber
and crazier than that? How who's in charge of news
at ms I'm like, who's the boss over at MSNBC.
There's somebody. I don't know the person's name is anymore.
How could you not feel embarrassed to be having somebody
(26:37):
say this on television? Well, the way that they're their
way that they're justifying it, I'll tell you. In twenty sixteen,
this guy voted for Trump. So they're saying that everything
that he's done since twenty sixteen, the nineteen donations to Democrats,
voting for Joe Biden, the Harris Biden sorry, the Biden
Harris bumper sticker on his car, and the fact that
(26:58):
he tried to kill Trump, none of that matters. They're
not sharing those facts. They're using selectively the fact that
this crazy guy voted for him in sixteen.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And then they're also saying that this would be killer
In Butler, Pennsylvania had said at some point in time
that he was a Republican. So they're trying to say
both of these are Trump supporters in satl Penprick. Yes,
this is insane because how they're justifying it. As anybody
who is paying attention can see, some of the people
who hate Trump in the most irrational, unhinged ways are
(27:32):
are former Republicans.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Morning Joe.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I mean, look at Joe Scarvert, look at some of
the people that will say absolutely anything they hate Trump.
There are Republicans, and some of them have even started
special little anti Trump publications and podcasts. There are Republicans
who hate Trump so much and it really is a
personal thing for them that they will join arm in
arm with the you know castraight your teenager for the
(27:58):
LGBTQ plus agenda, wide open borders, spend us into oblivion,
don't actually enforce the law against maniacs on the streets
clubbing old ladies for fun. They'll join arms with them
to attack Trump. So I would just put out there
that some of the people that are that hate Trump
in the most deranged ways are actually people that are
(28:21):
nominally have been Republican in the past.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Dick and Liz Cheney, I mean, right, I mean, think
about you mentioned it yesterday on the show, But you
want to talk about a crazy career arc. Dick Cheney
has gone from Satan in the mind of left wingers
to Kamala Harris bragging about him voting for her last
week during the debate a week ago today. That's kind
(28:45):
of how wild.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You could argue the failures of the Bush Cheney administration
over the course of eight years, with the long term implications,
in particular of the of the so called War on Terror,
delivered us into a more left wing, progressive, collectivist America
than any of us could have imagined to the twenty
first century, because all of a sudden, we're spending trillions
(29:08):
of dollars and losing thousands and thousands of brave Americans left.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
For what, oh, what provocative thought. Dick Cheney was wronger
on Iraq than any American politician has been on any
issue in the twenty first century in terms of what
it cost America. You can make that argument because what
(29:32):
did we gain from the trillions of dollars we spent
on Iraq? What did we gain from the trillions of
dollars we spent on Afghanistan? Now COVID is an unmitigated disaster, certainly,
but Dick Cheney drove the bus on. We need to
invade Iraq, we need to try to remake Afghanistan. Twenty
some odd years later, we spent trillions of dollars. We're
(29:53):
now thirty five trillions dollars in debt. We lost tens
of thousands of American lives. Fuck, you've been there. How
much better are Afghanistan in Iraq today that if we
had never gone in there at all?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Oh, you could argue Afghanistan is substantially worse today than
it was actually before we got in it, just in
terms of how it is for the Afghan people, because
now they know that the Taliban's running that country for
the next fifty to one hundred years. That's nothing's changing
over there. So the and the resistance that we had
worked with, how could they ever trust any outside forces
(30:25):
or anybody to work with them after what happened under
Biden's watch.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
It's a it's a a ten Iraq.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Does Iraq feel like a really burgeoning spring of democracy
in the Middle East?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
To?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
In fact, people could argue it would have been better
to have the Iraqis and the Iranians at each other
so we wouldn't have had to mess with it so much.
So look at it was a it was a very
painful lesson. But I just think it's interesting that that
the sort of Bush Cheney axis would come forward now.
I think it's a very important point. We talk about
all these Republicans who don't like Trump, that what exactly
(30:58):
was the America that they were supporting. By the way,
Bush was a huge Bush was basically an open border's
amnesty guy. Bush was terrible on immigration issues.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So the first start I liked about Trump in sixteen
was that he said, yeah, we blew it on Iraq,
because a lot of Republicans wouldn't say it because Bush
and Cheney were involved. When he ran he said, no,
that was an awful decision. I'm going to keep us
out of wars. I'm not going to spend money overseas.
I said, to hell, yeah, he's right on that.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I think that the they were planning for a future
Bush dynasties, and I think the whole generation of Republican
leadership because of the eight years of the Bush Cheney administrations,
was effectively taken out from being a serious contenders for
the presidency because if you had a hand in that disaster,
(31:46):
it just wasn't gonna work. I mean, you know it
wasn't gonna work. Look, look what happened. You know, war
hero John McCain ran against Barack Obama and got smoked.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, it wasn't even close. So yeah, that's what we're
dealing with.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Well, look, we got a administration right now. We got
a president who may not get out of bed till noon.
He spends most of his time it feels like on vacation,
and he doesn't have the ability to get the job done.
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of said, yeah, yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all.
And if you don't want to be like an NPR
(32:43):
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Speaker 2 (32:54):
Is there such thing as like a reverse bench, Like
if it's anything to collapse under the weight of the
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Speaker 1 (33:03):
I don't know.
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I mean he's kind of fat, so maybe he has
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I don't know.
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Buck.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
When we come back, I want to play some audio
of Hillary Clinton last night on MSNBC. She said a
couple of things that I thought were pretty outrageous in
her interview with Rachel Maddow. One was that she believes
there need to be criminal consequences for quote unquote misinformation
on the Internet. That's a staggering statement for someone of
(36:00):
her level of political standing to be making. The other
one was she basically didn't even give Trump a day
of grace. She immediately doubled down on he's a direct
threat to democracy and if he's elected, there's going to
be major consequences, and she called out the media to
be covering him as such. We need to play both
of those again to give you an idea of what
(36:22):
their arguments are. But we were just talking about off air.
You can see it happen. It only took two days,
forty eight hours. They have decided this is Trump supporters
who are drained trying to kill Trump. Now that's their
narrative that they are spinning to their fan base of
why two people have tried to kill Trump because Trump
radicalized his own base. It's important to understand what they're saying.
(36:46):
That is the reality. We come back, we'll play all
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