Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 7 2024

Kamala's softball interviews. Sean Parnell on the rally in Butler, PA. NE Sen. Pete Ricketts. Oct. 7th anniversary.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kamala Harris finally doing interviews. Now, you might say, what's
the big deal? Why does that really matter? Well, because
it is quite clear that the strategy of this campaign
for the first what seven or eight weeks I guess,
I mean depending on when when did she effish.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
All, I would say she all the way up to
the debate buck she basically talked to no one, and
even after the debate, she didn't do much. This is
this week is going to be more active for her
for interviews than any week since she ascended to the
nomination in July twenty. First, there's no world in which
you change that strategy so suddenly, so late in the

(00:39):
game unless it's not working, and their internals are showing
that it's not working. And I want to remind everyone
it is really just unseemly and also quite condescending to
hide a presidential candidate for the American people and just
hope that the media can do her dirty work for her.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
That was the strategy. That's what they were planning to do.
It's not working, so they're changing it up. So let's
let's take some time here to delve into hmm, why
was that her strategy in the first place, why do
the people around Kamala who make a living trying to
get people to win elections, why were they like, you know,
let's just leave out the interviews. Let's start with this.
Kamala is talking about taxes. This is going to be fun.

(01:21):
This is caught eight. She was on sixty minutes with
Bill Whittaker. And you know what, just listen, listen in listen,
in close. Kamala's making it all make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
My plan is about saying that when you invest in
small businesses, you invest in the middle class, and you
strengthen America's economy. Small businesses are part of the backbone
of America's economy.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
But pardoning that advice President, the question was, how are
you going to pay for it?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, one of the things is that I'm going to
make sure that the richest among us who can afford it,
pay their fair share in taxes. It is not right
that teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher
tax rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations. And I
plan on making that fair.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
But we're dealing with the real world here.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
But the real world includes how are you going to
get this to Congress? You know, when you talk quietly
with a lot of folks in Congress. They know exactly
what I'm talking about because their constituents though exactly what
I'm talking about. Their constituents are those firefighters and teachers
and nurses.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Oh my, he is a parody of political rhetoric. I
mean everything that she says, every statement she makes in
responds to questions about decisions. What are you going to do?
It's you know, there's great things in America and economy,
middle class, fair. None of this adds up to anything.

(02:53):
And this is why she wasn't doing interviews before.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Also, I'm so sick of some arguments that are made
that are just h fundamentally dishonest. Firefighters and nurses and
teachers don't pay a higher tax rate than billionaires. That
is a lie. And let me explain why. First of all, fuck,
do you know the number? Only half of Americans even
pay federal income taxes. So we're talking about immediately, nobody

(03:20):
here ever talks about this. Over half the number is
now of Americans never pay a dollar in income taxes. Now,
so security taxes if you have a job, sales taxes,
those things are paid. But we're talking about income taxes
which is what she's talking about here, So immediately you
can take half of the entire United States population off

(03:41):
the board. When it comes to income taxes, what she
is saying and trying to argue here is billionaires pay
a lower tax rate.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
That's only true if you.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Look at unrealized capital gains, which are not actual dollars
that they have translated into cash. And this is a
radical proposition that has become a major Democrat talking point,
and there needs to be more pushing back on it because,
and this is important. You might be sitting out there saying,
I'm not a billionaire. I don't care if they talk
about unrealized capital gains. Do you own a home, because

(04:16):
what they're saying is that one day somebody could look
at your home and they could say, hey, yeah, you
bought that house forty years ago for one hundred thousand dollars,
but now it's worth six hundred thousand dollars. You have
an unrealized capital gain on your home of five hundred
thousand dollars, and we want to tax that because keep

(04:37):
this in mind, as soon as they establish that unrealized
capital gains are permissible, do you think that's gonna end
taxing it, that is, do you think it's gonna end
with billionaires? Has anything ever ended with billionaires?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Though?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Once they get Democrats. The proposition that money that you
haven't realized And for people out there who don't know
what I'm talking about, if you have an asset like
the house is a good example that you haven't sold,
but it's worth more than you paid for it, that
is an unrealized capital gains. If you sell that home,
at some point, you would have to pay the tax

(05:12):
on the dollar amount that you have made. Billionaires oftentimes
buck cannot sell their shares in their companies because that's
where most of the wealth of billionaires comes. They found
a company like Elon Musk, they own a certain percentage
of the company. They can't sell the stock and retain
the ownership. And what they're trying to say is, oh,

(05:34):
you have to pay tax on money that you haven't
actually put in your pocket. That's the argument she's making there.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
You have a higher level of sophistication and knowledge of
the tax code than you know the average people do.
Play maybe I do as well. I mean, these are
things we started to talk and think a lot about.
I bring that up because Notice how with Democrats they'll
talk about fair share, what's fair, They're really just playing
to the politics of envy. They're not going to no

(06:02):
matter what. We have millionaires who listen to this show.
We have people in public housing who listen to this show. Yes,
and guess what. Democrats aren't going to make the lives
of those who are financially struggling better with these plans
because that they never do. That's always the false promise.
But it appeals to certain people to think that the

(06:23):
reason that they aren't where they should be financially, You
and I have opened guys with no assets and no money.
The reason that they do this is because it appeals
to the politics of envy. Why do they never talk
about just making the tax code far simpler than it is.
I mean, it's thousands and thousands of pages long, tens
of thousands. I think when you add you know, the
various you know things, you can sort of tack onto

(06:46):
it into the mix. Why isn't the tax code like
a page long?

Speaker 4 (06:51):
You know?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Ted Cruz was talking to this actually when he's running
in twenty sixteen. If they made it really simple and
everybody could understand the numbers, there would be less room
for social engineering, socialism and political nonsense lying about what's
really going on the one percent in this country. I
think the top one percent pays twenty twenty five. Look

(07:15):
at that number. It's an insane amount. I mean, so,
so the top one percent of in terms of income
tax are paying about twenty to twenty five. I think
the top the top fifty percent pay all of the taxes. Okay,
so if you're in the bottom fifty percent of earners,
you're basically paying no income taxes, as you pointed out,
But also like this is just well, what are they

(07:36):
really what are they really going to do? They're gonna
give you what They're going to give you more subsidies
from Obamacare exchange for a healthcare plan that's not very
good that's increasingly looking more like Canada with wait times
and carve outs and not giving you the network you want.
I mean, what are they really going to do. They're
going to wipe away you know, gender studies degrees at
second and third tier colleges. I've wipedway that the debt,

(07:58):
I mean for gender studies degrees. You know, none of
this is going to make the lives of the American
people better. The American people actually just want government to
get out of the way. What was so amazing about
Calvin Coolidge. Everyone's like, oh, you got to fix everything.
Oh the tax rate was too high, there was too
much regulation, and the government was in the way. He's like, hey,
I've got an idea. Let's let the business of the
American people be business.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's a great line. I will also point out to
your argument on tax code. Nobody knows what they owe.
Think about the system we have created where the government
won't tell you what you owe, but will tell you
if you pay something different than what they think that
you owe, they will put you in prison. I mean,

(08:41):
I'm sorry. Like, you can be a genius and buck
to your point. The more complicated your tax return gets,
the more you recognize I could go higher. This is
not an exaggeration. I could go higher. Ten highly skilled
accountants to handle my twenty twenty four tax return, super smart,

(09:02):
brilliant guys, and all ten would give me a different
amount of what taxes I owe. Every single one of them. Now,
some may be close, some may be far apart. Ten
brilliant accountants. If you have the most skilled, talented, well
educated accountants in America and you give them a tax

(09:22):
code like mine and say, hey, just tell me what
I owe and they all come up with a different number.
It's a pretty good sign that the tax code is broken.
And I think many of you out there feel it.
And so when I see arguments like Kamala is saying, oh, teachers, firefighters,
and nurses pay a higher rate than Elon Musk, it's
a lie. And it's a dirty, rotten lie that's designed,

(09:44):
as you said, Buck, to create economic disunion in this
country and make people envious and anti capitalistic, and designed
to sew discord in the country and make people think
that they're getting taken advantage of.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
And when you really get into this a little bit more,
what you find is that what matters to people to
you know, the middle class, which is also what even
constitutes middle class. There's a lot of debate over this, right,
you just mean everyday Americans, people who work, or people
who are homemakers and have an earner in the household
that you know, just just everyday Americans. You know, what

(10:19):
makes their life harder, what makes it harder for them
to pay their bills? Inflation, you know, it creates inflation
excess government spending. This is as and so while she's
talking about the taxes, she's really just trying to move
poor government policy onto the shoulders of high earners fellow
Americans who are doing well financially. And again, while I

(10:41):
understand the politics of envy are very powerful for Democrats,
and they think with emotion, not with numbers, Clay, the
best thing that they could do is actually have the
kind of economy that Donald Trump presided over, in which
unemployment was super low. You see by the way the government,
I mean, the jobs are just created. A huge portion
of it is government jobs. Yes, whichever one needs to know.

(11:02):
These government jobs they're actually non sorry I used to
have one. They're non productive to the economy. They're effectively
attacks on all of us. And the government is increasingly
just a jobs program for people who might have trouble
getting jobs somewhere else. There's a lot of important work
done in government, not saying everybody, but the expansion of
government is proceeding at a pace where this is now

(11:24):
burdensome on the American people. But this is the kind
of stuff that if you pay attention, you look at
what's happening in the economy, you'd understand, Kamala Harris has
no idea. She has no idea she lives in a
six million dollar mansion in Brentwood because her husban's a
rich lawyer like she doesn't is she's not in the struggle.
When do you think the last time was that Kamala
Harris has had to worry Clay about, you know, the

(11:44):
rent check bouncing before she started sleeping with Willie Brown. Honestly,
once he gave her, once he gave her four hundred
thousand dollars in state jobs, She's never had to worry
about paying for what she needs for the rest of
her life. That's the truth.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Thanks she was twenty nine and he gave her four
hundred k, which you think about thirty years ago. Four
hundred k is a lot of money. Now think about
how much money four hundred k was in like nineteen nineties,
late eighties, when Kamala Harris was getting paid by the
guy she was sleeping with a lot of money. Chendon
had to worry. Since then, she's only worked in government
her entire life.

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Wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 2 (13:38):
Tomorrow will be exactly four weeks until election day. Early
voting underway across many different states out there already, and
early voting for many people starting next week in the
even more earnest, including my home state of Tennessee. I
plan to vote as early as I possibly can. We
are joined now by Sean Parnell, who was at the

(13:59):
massive Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania that ended July thirteenth
with a assassination attempt. Trump went back, had an unbelievable crowd.
Now get to that in a second, But first, Sean,
have you recovered from Dak Prescott's late touchdown pass last
night to beat your beloved Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
You know, I knew you were gonna lead off with
a question like that, and I'll tell you it was
a rough night here in Fort Parnell, because not only
did the Steelers fall to three and two, backsliding two
straight losses with Justin Fields at quarterback, but the impeachables
my fantasy team unless Kareem Hunt comes off the bench
tonight for Monday night football and turns in a fifty

(14:43):
point game. Yes, it looks like the impeachables are gonna
fall to three and two as well.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Not good, not good.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm in a tough spot in my fantasy league as well.
I needa some miracles to fight and I'm gonna fall
to three and two also. But let me get okay,
that is out there. Sorry for all the Steelers fans
out there, I had to hear about that. But let's
go to the rally itself. I believe you spoke there.
What was the what was the environment like, What did

(15:10):
it feel like? Take us for those of us who
were not there, which the vast majority of listeners into
that experience.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Well, I have to say it was. It was crazy
and it was surreal to be back there. I did
a walk through the night before, and I'll tell you
and for all the listeners, the setup was a little
bit different. But President Trump was absolutely insistent on that
stage being in the exact same location. And I think

(15:41):
that's because he wanted to send a message to the
people of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that were not finished yet.
He wanted to make good on his commitment to them.
But he also wanted to send a message to our enemies,
you know, both here and abroad, that as Americans, we
don't bend the need to fear. We don't bend the

(16:02):
need of tyranny, and come hell or high water, President
Trump was standing on that stage and finishing what he started,
and I have to say I have a ton of
respect for that man for doing it, because you know,
I wasn't crazy, and I know my wife wasn't crazy
about going back to that place, but we felt like
we had to go back there because we had a
duty to go there, and President Trump clearly felt the
same way.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Sewn. Always appreciate you being with us. Battleground Live podcast
is on the Clay and Buck feed for everybody listening.
And also we're gonna have Sean filling in on this
show around Thanksgiving time, So Sean, you're gonna be in
charge for all three hours at the con, my friend,
it's going to be exciting. In the meantime, What were
some of the biggest takeaways from just that day and

(16:46):
also President Trump's speech and and all of all of
what you were able to gather together. I mean a
lot of us weren't able to be there, So what
what what did you walk away thinking and feeling? Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
It was absolute lutely exhilarating on so many levels because
it was just one historic moment after the next. You know,
I'm sitting there in the crowd and I hear, you know,
God Bless the USA, right the Trump the song that
Lee Greenwood song that Trump walks out to, and I'm thinking, dang,
this sounds really good. And Lee Greenwood walks out on

(17:20):
stage ten feet in front of me. He's saluting Trump,
and I'm like, dang, this guy knows how to entertain.
And of course, much of what Trump talked about, especially
in the early phases of his speech, was Corey Coppertore's
family and the other folks in the Commonwealth Pennsylvania who
were wounded, and He's got this opera singer coming out
and everything else. And then there was a woman at

(17:42):
one point Buck and Clay up in the stands who
had a medical emergency. President Trump stopped his speech in
the middle of that, and then one hundred thousand people
spur of the moment started singing the Star Spangled Banner.
It was just it was just an unbelievably powerful moment
and a powerful night on so many levels, and again

(18:03):
not just a testament to President Trump's toughness, but a
testament to the character of the people of Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania who also wanted to show up that day to
send a message that we're not afraid and you know,
we're gonna be heard. And it was just I have
to tell you both, it was amazing to be on
that stage and look out over what was definitely one
hundred thousand people and like, look, I was on stage

(18:26):
with President Trump five days before the November twenty twenty
election in Butler County almost at the same location, sixty
five thousand people there. This was different. There was something
in the air that was special, and it just leads
me to feel real, real good about the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania in this election cycle.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, let's dive into that, because you know Pennsylvania really well.
We're talking to Sean Parnell. Encourage you to listen to
his podcast as part of the Clay and Buck podcast
and Network twenty sixteen, it was an earthquake that Trump
won Pennsylvania. In the political class t twenty, they pulled
out all the stops to try to find a way
to win it back, the absentee ballot request were through

(19:08):
the roof. In terms of data, what I have seen, Sean,
is that the enthusiasm for Democrats when it comes to
absentee ballot request nowhere near what it was in twenty twenty.
And for people out there who say, well, there's not
a COVID going on, people are going to vote in
person more Republicans have actually had similar numbers when it

(19:30):
comes to absentee ballot requests in both twenty twenty and
twenty twenty four. So that would cut against that argument.
What are you seeing on the ground, what do you feel,
and what from a data perspective does the math look
like to you?

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Okay, So first of all, I've said here on this
show before that Pennsylvania's a state that closes late and
closes fast, and now you're seeing that play out. Well,
so what does that really mean? Well, well, Democrats can
win this state without a single Republican vote. Now we've
closed the voter registration deficit in Pennsylvania by over fifty percent,

(20:07):
six hundred and fifty thousand plus more Democrats in twenty
twenty than there were Republicans. That number is now three
hundred and twenty five thousand more Democrats than Republicans. Still
a big number, right, But the point is is that
we are we are. In order for Republicans to win
this state, you've got to win moderate Democrats, and you've
got to sway independence. Every single poll that I've seen,

(20:30):
not just with between Trump and Harris and Pennsylvania, but
especially between McCormick and Casey, has shown probably two months ago,
McCormick down anywhere between seven and ten points in Pennsylvania.
Will now in almost every single poll they're tied. And
that tells me that moderate Democrats and independents are breaking Republicans.

(20:51):
So the state is closing lateness, closing fast as it
typically does. Another thing that I need people to pay
attention to is look at the counties of Eerie, penncilv
which is in the northwest of Pennsylvania, in Northampton, which
is in the northeast of Pennsylvania. Those are two blue
collar Union Democrat counties. They are the bell Weathers of
the state of Pennsylvania. And President Trump is up in

(21:14):
these two bell Weather counties on not just the top
line polling, but on all of the issues. From the border,
He's up fifteen on inflation, he's up seven. On the
economy in general, he's up six. So issue after issue
after issue in these blue collar union Democrat counties are
breaking Trump. And again you see that play out in
the polls as well, Clay as well, Buck with Kamala

(21:36):
just is suffering. She is hemorrhaging men right. And I
cannot see for the life of me a blue collar
union Democrat, somebody who's worked with their hands their entire
life in either of those counties saying yeah, I'm gonna
vote for Kamala Harris. It's just not gonna happen. And
last point I'll make about the data. You look at
the current mail in request data Democrats nine hundred and

(21:59):
forty five thousand and mail in ballot requests Republicans four
hundred and nineteen thousand, Independence one hundred and sixty one
hundred and seventy six thousand. Now in twenty twenty, Republicans
had six hundred and sixty eight thousand requests, five hundred
and twenty four thousand returns Democrat Democrats one point six
at one point five million returns. So in twenty twenty
we lost the vote by mail by nearly one million,

(22:22):
but we're actually doing a lot better than we were
in twenty twenty because let's say of those one hundred
and seventy six thousand independents who have requested a mail
in ballot, let's say forty percent of them break our way,
we are going to be well over five hundred thousand
ballots requested in twenty twenty four, which is more than

(22:43):
we had in twenty twenty. And Democrats, by contrast, they
need that floor of twenty twenty mail in ballots to
be successful in that state, and they're not there yet.
And at nine hundred and forty five thousand they got
to get to one point five million returns. That the
clock is ticking, guys, and I just don't think that
there's enough time for them to make it up.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Sean, What the ground game that Trump has? How is
it looking? How is it in these final weeks? And
you know, you're telling you you're giving us a sense
of what spots in the stage should be highlighted to
try to bring it across the finish line. But is
the infrastructure there? The door knocking? The ads on TV?
I mean, you know, what are you seeing in terms

(23:25):
of that?

Speaker 6 (23:26):
Well, the ads on TV are just the market is
absolutely saturated. And it's particularly tough to run ads in Pennsylvania,
running a state wide campaign because there are five different
media markets, whether it's Philadelphia, scrant and York, Pittsburgh, Eerie,
unbelievably expensive. But yeah, there's a political ad on TV
every couple of seconds here. But the ground game for

(23:47):
President Trump is really, really, really strong. And again, by contrast,
look at Kamala Harris. You don't get the teams to endorsement,
you don't get the the endorsement of the National Firefighters Union. Now, yeah,
that might be a palytical hit optically for Kamala Harris,
but when they don't endorse, you don't get their infrastructure,
you don't get their door knocking, you don't get their

(24:07):
ballot chasing, you don't get union organization. And that's gonna
hurt her in Pennsylvania. And again you see that in play,
you see that playing out in the polls.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Right.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
So not only are people inclined to I think, vote
for Trump because they're they're hurting where it's like on
kitchen table issues in their pocketbooks, but Kamala is not
going to have the ground game that Old scrant and
Joe from Pennsylvania had and you know that's another thing.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
You know, at the top of the ticket.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
You know, most people in Pennsylvania that aren't tethered to
politics every day are looking at Scranton Joe and saying, hey,
he's one of us. Old moderate Joe Biden, you know,
works across the aisle. Kamala Harris is not Joe Biden
in that regard, and so she's got all sorts of
problems in Pennsylvania. I think it's pretty clear now that
Kamala has a Pennsylvania problem. But I say all that

(24:52):
to say, we've got a campaign, like we're ten points down.
We got to sprint across the finish. I mean, all
of these things are good, but we're in the execution
phase of this election operation and we got to close
the deal. We got to get the ball across the
goal line.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Sean, you're making a football analogy there, and this is
where Buck has said for some time, I automatically trust
college football fans more, NFL fans more. If you like football,
I figure out you can't be that bad of a
guy or gal. I just come back, and I know
I started with you with the Steelers question. I just
come back to what I see on the ground. I

(25:27):
don't know if you saw me post this, but for
the Georgia Alabama game, the sign said, you know, Georgia
fans love Kamala, and all the Georgia fans on social
media said some insults just cut too deep. They had
a big rally for the College Democrats at the Auburn
Georgia game on the campus in Athens. Nobody shows up

(25:52):
regular everyday football fans. You see them in Pennsylvania a lot.
They're the backbone. I think of much of that blue
collar mind. They're not showing up and voting for Kamala Harrison.
And I just think a lot of people are slowly
realizing it. And then her outreach. I mean, Sean, how
many Steeler fans do you think listen to call her

(26:12):
daddy Howard Stern and watch Stephen Colebayer, like, how is she.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Going to change their mind going to those outlets.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
She's not.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
And you're right if you go to any sort of
SEC game, you know, Trump shows up at Alabama Georgia
and the crowd goes wild for him. And I think
the reason why the crowd goes wild is it people
that are attending those college football games. They're just normal.
They're not politicals like us, right, They're just normal people.
They're really struggling. They look at life three years ago
and said, hey, life was pretty great. Three years ago

(26:43):
under Trump it was easier. Life Now it sucks, not
just here domestically, but the world is on fire. And
I just you cannot see Kamala Harris or Walls showing
up at a college football game and getting nothing but
just NonStop.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
There there is It's a great point. There isn't a
stadium in America where Kamala Harris could show up and
be cheered like Trump is cheered all over the country
at football games.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
It just doesn't exist.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Yeah, I mean, he's and this is why I say
he's the most I'm obviously a Trump guy, but this
is why I say he's the most electrifying political figure
of my lifetime. And I think there's a political underpinning
to all of this is that the next generation, these
kids that are eighteen to twenty five years old, in
many ways, they've been priced out of the American dream
that was not so three years ago under Trump, when

(27:31):
you have mortgage interest rates at two point five percent,
where you could graduate from college, get a job working
for maybe forty five fifty grand a year, and afford
to buy your first home and earn your way into
the American dream. These kids today, they don't have that
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(27:51):
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And I just think they're not going to be voting
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Speaker 2 (29:40):
And we are joined now by Senator Ricketts of the
Great State of Nebraska and Senator I think this is
the first time you've been on with us. Appreciate you
making the time. I want to start with a question
that is extremely local in scope but could have major
national residents, and that is what do you think happens
in Omaha? The one an electoral vote there? We got

(30:01):
a lot of people listening on KFAB We Love You
and Omaha at a fabulous time at the College World Series.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Great group of people. What do you seeing their?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Senator, how does that shake out not only in the
electoral college but also I think there's a toss up
congressional race there.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah. Absolutely for your listeners, it may not be aware
the second congressional district in Omaha is also at standalone
electoral college vote because of, frankly, a partisan move by
Democrats back in the nineteen nineties to split up our
electoral college votes by congressional district So if you win
the state overall, you get two electoral College votes and

(30:39):
then every congressional district stands alone. You have to win
that individually. And President Trump won this district in twenty
sixteen but lost it in twenty twenty and so it
just shows you, I mean, in just in general, this
district is very it's like one of the few purple
districts left in the country. It's split very fifty to fifty.
So it's always a tough congressional seat. So Don Bacon,

(31:01):
my congressman, is always has a tough race. He won
it by two points last time around in twenty two
and it's going to be a tough race again this
year for him, and it's going to be a tough
race for President Trump as well. So it's definitely going
to be a challenge.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Senator Rickett, appreciate you being with us. The Republicans had
a chance to change the situation of the Omaha district
and didn't. Is that correct? And what I mean, what
can you tell us about that? Because for a lot
of people, it's they have the power to change it.
It was a partisan move when Democrats did it. Why
not set it right and put it in line with

(31:40):
a vast majority of the rest of states.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, absolutely. Well, it's something that we tried when I
was governor. We attempted to do it every year I
was governor, tried to get a change back to winter
take Hall, which is what forty eight other states do,
and we always got blocked by the Democrats. So in
our one house legend, we have a fillbuster rule, so
you need to get thirty three of the forty nine

(32:03):
centers to pass anything that's controversial, and the Democrats always
had enough votes to be able to block us from
getting it done when I was governor. And sadly it's
the same thing with Governor Pillen. We did have a
Democrat reregistered as a Republican, but he basically changed his
party registration. It's not a philosophy, and so he would
not go along and put on a letter saying he

(32:23):
was not going to vote for winner take All, and
and so we did not have the thirty three votes
we needed to be able to get that change this year.
Something we're going to have to keep trying and just
work waits.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
That's really important because I haven't heard that said anywhere.
You basically have a stealth Democrat with an R by
his name who is blocking the change to a winner
take all electoral college in Nebraska, and that sounds like,
what's going on here, Well, he's not.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
A stealth Democrat. Everybody knows he's a Democrat.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Well well yeah, you guys all know. The rest of
the country, though, is all thinking, wait, a Republican blocked this?

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, okay, well from that, well yeah, but he just
reregisters as a Republican this year. So it was not
like a you know, he did this a while ago.
And when I was governor, for example, I served with him,
he was in the legislature, and he was always a
Democrat when I was there, So again it was not shocking.
We made a run at him, tried to get him
to go along with it, but just said he'd like

(33:19):
changed his party registration. But I a philosophy.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Okay, so let's go in. We also have a big
Senate race. And for people who may not be paying
a lot of attention, I know a lot of our
audience is. But in Nebraska you can speak to this.
You know, the difference between being the majority and the minority,
huge difference. West Virginia is going to flip. Thank you
West Virginians. Ohio, Bernie Marino is looking like he has

(33:43):
a really good chance of beating Sharad Brown. Tim Sha
we've had on the show quite a lot, is looking
very good to beat. John Tester got competitive races in Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin that could.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Be going our way.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
What about Nebraska? What do people need to know there?
And what is the difference between my majority and minority
from your perspective?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah, so I am actually in cycled. So my story
is that I was governor from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty three, and then Ben SaaS stepped down as our
junior senator, and Governor Pillen appointed me to the position.
So I'm running in a special election this year to
be able to finish out the last two years of

(34:26):
Ben Sasa's term, and then we would have to run
again in twenty twenty six for a six year term
and then the regular cycle deb Fisher is up for election.
So we actually have both our Senate seats through up
in Nebraska this year. Okay, and dev has a tough
race because she's running against an independent who has got
Sorrow's money behind her. He's out spending her on TV
two to one, and all the public polling I've seen

(34:49):
shows that they're pretty much in a dead heat right now.
So we got to work to get the word out
to all Republicans say hey, you got to vote for
deb Fisher. This guy dan Osborne is an independent, but
he's really a Democrat. He's getting you know, ActBlue is
behind him. He was in Hollywood last week raising money.
I mentioned the Soros money already. I mean, this is

(35:10):
the profile of a Democrat, right and he's going to
even though he hasn't said, I'm quite certain he's going
to caucus with the Democrats. So to your point about
getting control of the Senate, it would make it that
much harder if dan Osborn were to win. So we
need debt Fisher with and she just has to get
out there. We need to get Republicans on board. We
need to get Republicans to you know, come back to

(35:31):
the Republican Party. And remember that deb is the conservative
Republican in this race, not Dan Osborne. He may have
some nice slick commercials where he talks about being independent,
but at the end of the day, we need to
make sure that we're taking control of the Senate for
two reasons. One, either to God forbid, Harris gets elected.
The firewall against the crazy things she's going to want

(35:51):
to do. Or in the case that we get President
Trump elected, we need to move fast to be able
to work on his agenda and quickly undo all the
damage that Biden Harris administration is done and do things
like get the twenty seventeen tax cuts, you know, reupt
and we need to make sure if we get his
cop people can confirm, you know, get his cabinet members in.

(36:13):
So this is a big deal and Republicans of Nebraska
really need to you know, make sure that they're voting
for Debt Fisher and turn out and vote because this
is a this is an important part of the election.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Speaking of Senator Ricketts of Nebraska, Senator, this is fascinating.
You know, we we haven't seen very much coverage at
all of what's going on here in the Senate races
that you've you've been talking about. And I got to say,
is this is this one of these moments where the
national level GOP and even more right leading media just

(36:46):
a little little asleep at the wheel on this one.
It sounds like you got a Soros back Democrat pretending
to be an independent, trying to steal what should be
a very winnable Senate set. I mean, that's that's something
we got to raise the alarm over.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yeah, that's it's something that we certainly. It has kind
of actually come upon us relatively quickly, like within the
last six weeks or so, because that's because that's when
Ozma's been dumping money in the race. I mean he's
out spending Depth two to one, and we always get
outspent on the air. Right in most of these competitive races,
Democrats always have more money. I mean there is a
party of the rich elites, so they're getting all the

(37:21):
sorrows money and you know, Tom Steyer and everybody else.
And in this case, you know, the thing to remember
about Nebraska is we're also a very populous state and
we've had that history here for one hundred years. So
when somebody comes along and he's got the nice slick
ad and says he's an independent, that does appeal to Nebraskans.
And that's why we've got to remind, especially our conservative Republicans,

(37:43):
that you can't be fooled by this guy's ads. We
need to vote for the conservative Republican and that is
debth Fisher. It's not going to be that other guy.
And of course the osmoren Nane is very popular here
in Nebraska because Tom Osborne, you know, got us some
national championship back in the nineteen ninety in football. But
this is the guy's not related.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's actually super important.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Again, it goes to me trusting college football fans more
than anyone. You guys are having a little bit of
a resurgence with the Nebraska Cornhusker program.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Big game coming up soon.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I think you're what five and one or four and one,
only one loss, I know to Illinois one.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah, we're five and one actually looking pretty good at
the Big ten right now, and we got Indiana coming
up in a couple of weeks, so that's gonna be
a big game. We win that game, then we'll be
both loved for the first time in a long time.
So we're really excited this.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Year, all of that rolling together.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
So again, like just to kind of bring it home,
you've got people who are not actually in the best
interest of the country trying, basically, i'll say it, to
steal a race that would not be winnable if this
guy were running as a Democrat, because I think you
would acknowledge and probably recognize too, the Democrat brand in

(38:56):
the heartland is really toxic, so they're trying to do
this sneak by running this guy as an independent.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I think that's important for Nebraskas to know.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
That is important for Nebraskas to know. In fact, the
Democrats have said this that they think the way to
win in red states is by running an independent, and
they're trying it here in Nebraska. And what we have
to do is show them, no, this is a bad idea.
You're not actually going to be able to win in
states like Nebraska because we actually are conservative. And to
your point, the Democrats have gone so far left. If
you look back in the nineteen nineties here in Nebraska,

(39:27):
all of our statewide elected offices, we're actually Democrats, and
the Democrats have gone so far left with the things
they're doing. You know, they want abortion up until the
moment of birth. That's what this guy is running against
my congressman, you know, is doing, is he wants abortion
up to the moment birth. Won't say when he would
cut off abortion. They're just crazy radical on that. We

(39:49):
know all the like boys played in girls' sports, and
of course the spending is just out of control, the
weakness they show on the international stage, inflation, the open
southern border, these things that Democrats are doing are just
not what Nebraska's want. And that's what you're going to
get with Dan Osbourne if you if you vote for him, said,
you're going to get high prices and open borders, which

(40:09):
is what this administration has been all about. Harris has
been all about this open border, high prices, like, don't
vote for more of that with this guy who's scusing
the Independent.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
It is really a Democrat, no doubt, the Senator.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
We appreciate it, and good luck to the corn Huskers
getting Bowl eligible and fighting their way potentially into some
Big ten competition. A lot of fun to watch them resurging.
But remember this is not Tom Osborne's relative. This is
not your daddy's Nebraska Cornhusker connection.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Thank you for the.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Time, great, thanks a lot, appreciate it, Thanks for having
me on.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I know I've been very impressed by the corn Husker defense.
Clay also the offense. Very good.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
You're wearing your red because you knew we were talking
to Nebraska Cornhusker fans today. It was particular with that's
I think the first visit from from a senator from
the asking on the program.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
So we'll do whatever we can to help. I know
that Senate race issue that have you heard that honestly
talked about on any shows anywhere. They're hide they're trying
to hide a seat plain site. That's exactly they're They're
doing it quietly because that's how they know they could
pull it off, because there's no way that a Republican
shouldn't win a Senate seat statewide race in Nebraska. Well,

(41:23):
you know they're very sneaky, Soros money in there, the
whole thing.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Be careful again, just ask the question, who are you
going to cauc us with independence? In states like Nebraska,
they run as independence. Is what Joe Manchin did, This
is what Kirsten Cinema did. They eventually said, oh, I'm
an independent, but they continue to caucus with the Democrats. Well,
an independent who caucuses with the Democrat is a Democrat.
Don't let them hide from you what they are trying

(41:49):
to sneak by. Again, we got that huge audience in
k Fab listening to us right now in Omaha. That
electoral college seat matters potentially a great deal that is
that one on electoral vote. But my goodness. Just pay
attention to what they're trying to it's a fast one
that they're trying to slip past you.

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Speaker 2 (43:35):
We want to mention again right off the top, it's
going to turn into a huge story a hurricane Milton.
We know we have a monster audience of you listening
in Tampa and all throughout the state of Florida. Frankly,
and we appreciate all of you. Category five storm one
hundred and seventy five miles per hour in the latest reporting,

(43:56):
one of you sent me a hurricane trajectory, which confirm
my thesis here that you don't see very many storms
that are on the trajectory that Milton is on Historically,
since we've been able to track hurricanes, the pathway that
it is following is a bit of an abnormality, and
it is putting Tampa, potentially Orlando, South Florida, certainly the

(44:18):
area of Fort Myers Naples that got hit just a
couple of years ago with a devastating hurricane again potentially
sweeping through the state of Florida. Buck, you're in South Florida.
The expectation is that that may arrive Wednesday Thursday. So
this is a fast moving storm. If you, I would
imagine are in Florida, you are hearing a lot about it,

(44:40):
but just please stay safe and listen to people in
your communities telling you what the smartest thing to do is. Buck,
I don't know how well you know Tampa, and we're
going to get to the one year anniversary of October seventh.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Here.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
It's a beautiful place, has not really been hit hard
by a hurricane in about one hundred years. This a
major metropolitan area that has a burgeoning growth rate. The
area that potentially could be hit is a highly developed
region of the state that has not seen a hurricane
like this in maybe up to one hundred years, when

(45:14):
Tampa was a much smaller area. So this is a
Category five. But as you were telling me during one
of the breaks. The miles per hour of the wind
speed right now at one hundred and seventy five would
be one of the strongest Cat fives to ever hit
the state of Florida in recorded history.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
It's very concerning, and my thoughts are already with everybody
who's preparing that on that whole Gulf coast side of
the state. And look, Florida prepares for hurricanes, understands how
to deal with these as well as were better than
any state in the country. But a category five is

(45:56):
a category five. And if it continues at that pace, look,
let's all pray that it storm lessens and loses force.
And but I don't even know how to clay the
trajectory of it. You know, sometimes it goes back out
toward the ocean when it comes in from the southeast,
and I feel like I'm a weatherman, comes in from

(46:16):
the southeast and makes its way up and it can
make a you back out toward the Atlantic. I mean,
it's making landfall one way or the other. Based on
how this storm is moving. It's just a question with
what ferocity that's right. So again it's going to take
over the entire news cycle. In the midst of this
presidential campaign, lots of positives coming in for Trump, the

(46:38):
gambling markets moving in a direction very favorable to Trump.
In the wake of the Butler Pennsylvania rally, I think
a lot of people are fed up with what they've
seen from Hurricane Helene response in North Carolina, in Georgia,
in Virginia and Tennessee. We're continuing to shine a light
on that as another hurricane prepares to come through. But

(46:59):
it's also the one year anniversary of the terror attack
October seventh in Israel, the deadliest day for Jewish people
since the Holocaust. And we're gonna play a cut for you,
Buck from your home city of New York City, where
on Columbia's campus there are students marching around celebrating today

(47:22):
the October seventh attack on Israel one year ago. But
Kamala is going to be interviewed by sixty Minutes tonight
and she was asked about her perspective on what happened there.
And I want everybody out there to listen to this
gobblygook as they continue to put Kamala out there in

(47:44):
the larger universe, and she tries to make arguments. She
got two cuts for her. Let's start with she refuses
to say that Netan Yahoo is an ally again. This
aired yesterday, It's airing tonight on the one year anniversary.
Cut one, Kamala Harris sixty minutes. Do we have a

(48:05):
real close ally in prime Minister Yahoo?

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I think, with all due respect, the better question is
do we have an important alliance between the American people
and the Israeli people? And the answer to that question
is yes.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Okay Buck refusing to say that we're in alliance with
Benjamin Netanyaho is assigned to me when I heard this
and I watched this clip that she is in real
dire straits in Michigan because she's terrified of what Arab
voters in the state of Michigan, where I spent my
weekend up there, had an awesome time interacting with a
lot of Michiganders. My wife is from there. She's from

(48:45):
the region of the country where there is a huge
Jewish and Arab population, one of the few battleground states
that has both. And it feels to me like Kamala
Harris is a mess trying to calibrate the political response
here because refusing to say net yiaho is an ally
is a slap in the face to anyone who cares
about the safety of Israel.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Well, these these are the rhetorical games that people who
Israel and let's let's just be frank, the Jewish people
cannot trust. These are the rhetorical games that they play,
things like I'm not I'm not anti Semitic, I just
I just hate Zionists, right, or something like that. People
will say that or I oppose Zionism, I have no

(49:25):
problem with Jews. That just the Jewish state is a problem.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
There's this rhetorical game that a lot of anti Semites
and a lot of Democrats now find themselves playing. And
this is this is the problem the Democrat party faces.
When you have the one year anniversary of October seventh,
it is not only a reminder of how absolutely horrific

(49:52):
and heinous and truly demonic that terror attack was on
the Jewish people. Things that I mean as acts were committed,
atrocities committed that any person of any decency or character
would honestly take a bullet themselves before they would ever
do And Hamas did this, their fighters did this wholesale

(50:15):
as a matter of policy, as an active decision that
they were going to rape, torture, mutilate, murder, and so
you have that component of a clay, which is something
we all have to remember, and to me, it reminds
me very much of the sadism and the evil that
we face in places like Iraq and Afghanistan with the Jihattists.

(50:37):
It's a similar, similar ideology, similar approach. But also the
American college kids who were you know, I have to
say I read this Clay. I don't know if you
saw it. But Barry Wise over at the Free Press,
which is her substack, which is I think one of
the biggest substack accounts out there, biggest substack publications out there,

(50:57):
she did a rundown of what it was like, not
six months after October seventh, but on October eighth and ninth,
and the days immediately after this attack, when Harvard University
had thirty student organizations say that this was Israel's fault. Yeah,

(51:19):
Harvard University allegedly the most elite, brilliant institution of the planet.
By the way, it's not. And there are a lot
of morons there, and I know a lot of morons
who have gone to school there, but that's the reputation
it has. You know, one of the biggest idiots was
actually the president of Harvard, who ended up losing her
presidency over this. But Clay, there was something unleashed on

(51:43):
the you know, within the American left that people will
not for it should not, I hope forget. This happened,
and it wasn't even Usually what the left does is
they say, hey, hey, hold on, let's not rush to anything.
We don't want more dead bodies. Take a moment, let's
talk this out. They didn't even do that, which is

(52:03):
usually running cover by the way for the evildoers. You know,
there was this it's Israel's fault chorus amongst American Kamala
and Biden voters. Let's be honest, that's who. How many
people voted for Trump nationwide? Who are big Hamas fans?

(52:24):
I mean, I mean, you know there's lunatics everywhere. You
got three and fifty million people. I think you could
probably count them on both hands. Didn't happen. If you
are a pro Hamas American, you are a Kamala base voter.
You are a Democrat, and I think the Democrat Party
can't shake that right now. And so really it comes
down to, for a lot of Jewish American voters, you

(52:47):
were shown what the Democrat Party really thinks of you.
We have a lot of Jewish listeners who already vote Republican.
Some of them maybe you're Independence or Democrats, but I'm
talking about for those who have supported Biden and now
are thinking about supporting Harris. If you choose to ignore
the what the Democrat Party showed you with these campus
protests and the white politicians responded to it, and the

(53:10):
way media outlets responded to it, I don't know what
to say. Let's play a couple of cuts building on that.
She was asked again about net Yahoo and the response
of Israel. This is going to air tonight on sixty minutes.
This is Bill Whittaker asking Kamala Harris again. You heard

(53:31):
her say that she would not say that Netanyahu was
an ally, which again is a slap in the face.
But here is a further analysis from Kamala Harris. Listen
to this word, Salad. It seems that Prime Minister Netanyah,
who is not listening.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Well, Bill, The work that we have done has resulted
in a number of movements in that region by Israel
that were very much prompted by or a result of
many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen
in the region.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Fuck, what does that mean? I mean, I know, I
really mean, like you listen to it and you could
play it back over and over again. These are the
words of a person being asked about a movie that
she did not see or a book she did not read.

(54:28):
This is nonsense. The work I have a quote here, Clay,
The work that we have done has resulted in a
number of movements in that region by Israel that were
very much prompted by or a result of many things,
including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.

(54:50):
That is a direct quote. I did not mess around
at all. This is Kamala Harris answering Clay with we
did some stuff that affected some things that did things
that were also stuff. It's black.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
It's absolute chaos that answer, and I want to play
you were mentioning these elite institutions. This is today on
Columbia's campus. Listen to what they are chanting on the
anniversary the one year anniversary of the October seventh terror attack.

(55:44):
And I know it's kind of hard sometimes to hear.
What they are chanting on Columbia's campus today is they're saying,
what do we want? What do we need? Death to Israel. Also,
resistance is glue. We will be victorious. I mean, this

(56:04):
is just even for people out there that I think
were stunned by what they saw and respond Stocsober seventh,
on the one year anniversary of the largest terror attack
and murder of Jewish people since the Holocaust. This is
what's happening on the campus of Columbia.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And I mean, I think it's worth remembering. Just like
in twenty twenty they were talking about the riots and
the rioters of BLM, those were Biden voters. This is
politically affiliated. The Prohamas anti Semitism that exists in America
is almost exclusively it is a ninety nine percent Democrat

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party phenomenon. Okay, we all know this. You see this
going on on the campuses. I don't know how much
more clear it could be. And you also want to ask,
I think as though you could have a rational conversation
play with people that would take the side of the
butchers of women and children and the elderly on and

(57:08):
also maybe I just say this, you know, having spent
some time in combat zones and having some understanding of
what does go on with warfare. There is in fact
a difference between a missile strike that has civilian casualties
and sending men into civilian homes to rape, mutilate, and

(57:30):
murder women and children. These are different things. And I
know that the friends of Hamas, the Democrat left who
love to make excuses for the Palestinians, who can never
make up enough excuses for themselves. Given so much money,
given so many options, given autonomy, and what do they
do now? They elect Hamas, they put Hamas in charge,
and they support Amas, but they act like this is

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the same and it is not the same. And also Clay,
if they will justify that, what would not if they
were to get their hands on a nuke and they
were to nuke Tel Aviv? Would would the college campus
kids all be marching with this is payback? I think
the answer is yes. I think they would say that,
I truly do, which gives you a sense of just

(58:14):
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