October 8, 2024 • 17 mins
Buck Sexton is joined by Jayme Franklin, founder of The Conservateur and a conservative Gen Z commentator, to discuss the cultural impact of podcasts like Call Her Daddy, especially after Kamala Harris's appearance. Buck and Jayme explore how the podcast influences young women and the growing divide between left-leaning young women and conservative young men. They also examine the media's role in shaping political views, Kamala’s interview strategy, and the rise of pro-Palestinian sentiment on college campuses following the events of October 7th.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Brief. On this episode,
Jamie Franklin joins. She is the founder of Conservator. She
is a conservative Generation Z commentator, right your gen Z,
which is exciting. I'm an old millennial, so I feel like,
you know, I used to be hip. But we're going
to talk about the Kamala campaign here, And first off,
(00:44):
I didn't know that you're going to explain this to me. Okay,
you're coming from a young, young female conservative perspective, this
call her Daddy interview that Kamala did. I don't really
I had heard of this before this podcast. I've heard
a couple of clips of it. What I was shocked
by was how popular this apparently is. Like, tell me
(01:07):
about this, because I feel like I had no idea.
There are so many young women out there who want
to hear the kind of stuff that this woman's talking about.
So where did this call her Daddy phenomenon come from?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I know it's it's honestly a little depressing. I think
it's rated right now. The second most popular podcasts in
America behind Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, I feel like, is
what a lot of guys listen to, which you know, talks.
He brings on scientists, Amazon expert people who explore the
Amazon and everything.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I listened to that Amazon guy by the way, that
was really interesting. I liked the bee lady too, who
does all the bees like like this? You know, I
don't know if you saw that one anyway, that's Rogan.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, he has some interesting guests on that I think
bring a lot of interesting information. Call Her Daddy is
very different. She started a few years ago. I've never
listened really. I actually listened to the Kamala episode too
for this podcast. I had to do it for everyone,
but that was the only podcast I've ever listened to
of hers. But it's huge if young women. I think
(02:08):
it's a huge part of the cold sure that we're
seeing today. And I think a lot of conservatives were
really shocked after the overturning of Roe v.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Wade how popular abortion is with women.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And I definitely think her and other outlets are exactly
the reason for that. It's, you know, just the epitome
a fifth wave of feminism and just cultural decay and
sexual promiscuity.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, the stuff that I was here in And again,
I don't want to sound like, you know, I got
a little touch of gray in the beard here. I
don't want to sound like the old man who's like,
what are the kids talking about these days? But the stuff,
I mean, what she gets into on that podcast. I've
seen some clips. It's like very graphic. I mean, it's
about as graphic as words can be. And Kamala Harris
(02:51):
wants to be president. She's sitting there, she does very
few interviews. Why does she choose Call her Daddy as
the podcast that she's going to sit down with among
just a handful that she has done.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I mean, they're definitely vying for the young woman vote.
That's the base of the Democratic Party now it's all
young women. I mean someone tweeted out that Trump went
on Dave Ramsey last week to talk about the economy
and Kamala went on Call Her Daddy to talk about
abortion and all of those issues, and so definitely shows
the contrast on you know.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Where the base of the party and the issues are.
I was in shock.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I went on her Twitter they call her daddy Twitter
and I typed in some key words when we were
pulling up some graphics to put out on the Conservator,
and I was actually in shock by some of the
stuff I read on there. It's it's really depraved, Like
it's very upsetting and depressing that this is what a
lot of women, especially young women who are coming of
age and might not know better, and this is what.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
They are consuming on a regular basis.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And I think, you know, we need to have media
outlets that attract more women and counteract these messages because
it's I think really damaging to young women if they
behave and if they follow the advice of Alex Cooper.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, I mean, you're you're a young conservative woman. You've
got conservatur which you founded online, and so I know
there are some places for women who have a young
women who have a right of center opinion to go to.
But it does feel like the ecosystem, especially for women
aged sixteen to thirty, you know, or eighteen to thirty five,
(04:25):
or however you want to slice the demographic, they're just there.
It's dominated by these far left voices, like young women
have been you know, men are going in the other direction.
Young men are going in the other direction. Young men
are becoming increasingly conservative, it feels like young women are
becoming increasingly left wing. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I could not agree more.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And I think a lot of conservative men, like yourself,
you know, you're not going to go and pick up
Vogue magazine right when you're at the airport like women do.
So I don't feel a lot of you guys saw
this coming. But that was really the reason why I
started the Conservatoire back in twenty twenty, because I was
just I always wanted to go into fashion actually, and
I was interested being a journalist and I went to
fashion school and all these things when I was also
(05:10):
went to Berkeley, but I did both, and I was
just like, I don't belong here, like there's no place
for this. And when I was at Berkeley as well,
I just couldn't believe, you know, I grew up going
to Catholic school my entire life, and just going to
cal Berkeley and seeing the culture there, especially with young
women and kind of along the lines of what they
talk about and call her daddy. I was shocked by it.
But it's they've definitely captured the young woman vote. It's
(05:33):
we need to dig ourselves out of this hole. I'm
really happy with the way that the male vote is going,
which which is why I think you see like Trump
going on in Theobonne and stuff like that, and with
the milk boys.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But call her daddy.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You know, I don't know the political calculus of how
that's going to come out, because I think it'd be
really off turning to a lot of especially male independence.
And I think also in light of her Kane, Helene
just looked very tone death and the fact that she
doesn't even do any other interviews. And I listened to
her interview and it was once again another word salad
where I learned absolutely nothing about any of her policies.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Or what she plans to do.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yes, it is the case that Kamala Harris does remind
everybody why she doesn't do interviews when she does interviews.
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(07:14):
Jamie kamala is were a few weeks away from the elections?
Crazy right? I think three and change from the actual
election day. And all of a sudden she does a
flurry of media, She does all these interviews. What's up
with that? I thought she was avoiding the press. Is
it because she's losing? Do you think this was always
part of their plan? What's the game here?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, it's definitely interesting because they were hiding her for
a very long time, So to me, that signals I
think that there's some internal pulling showing that people are
uncomfortable with her. I think Democrats had a really smart
job by moving her in at the last minute, like
what was it, two and a half months before this election,
so we could purposely not learn more about her policies
and honestly, her incompetency when it comes to interviewing and
(07:57):
being able to explain anything. I kind of I agree
a lot with Trump. I don't think she's an incredibly
smart person, and I think she can't think on her feet.
I think she was performed actually better than I thought
she in the debate, because she is she memorizes the
lines and can get them out. But when it's off
the cuff, she's obviously not doing well. But it kind
of feels like a hail Mary here. So I think
(08:19):
we should feel happy that they're feeling like they have
to go here.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Did you hear in the sixty minutes interview, there's there's
a clip where she says, I have the quote because
I really want to have this is the word for
word quote. Okay, Well, the question is something about n Yahoo, right, like, basically,
do you stand with n Yahoo? Here's what she says, Well, Bill,
the work that we have done has resulted in a
(08:44):
number of movements in that region by Israel that were
very much prompted by or a result of many things,
including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
That is a way of saying, we did some things
that made some stuff happened to some things that were
also things.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, it's I think she's also in the Democratic Party
is in a really tough place right now, honestly because
their base is just anti Trump. So they kind of
have like some of these never Trump Republicans that are
kind of probably a little bit more conservative on a
lot of policies, especially with the economy and on some
social issues. And then they have palaes signed flag wheeling,
(09:25):
blue haired. They the pronoun people also in their party,
so anytime they speak, they're going to cause divisions within
their party. So I do think in a way, like
once again, I do think it's also she can't explain
a lot of these policies herself because she doesn't do
the background and prep needed for it. But I also
think she's scared about like alienating people in their base
(09:46):
because it's a very fractured party when you actually get
down to the issues.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, and I think that you see that also with
the Israeli Palestinian issue, right, that's and which comes up
in the context of net Yahoo. She's out there trying
to tell everybody that we stand with Israel, but she
doesn't stand with net Yahoo and she's not sure about
the Israeli military response to October seventh than you and
(10:10):
I are sitting here talking on the anniversary of October seventh.
I don't think she can have it both ways with this.
I think Democrats are caught a little bit here with
the both sides ism of well, I stand with Hamas,
but I also stand with Israel. You can't. You can't
actually do.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
That, I agree, And I've I've heard that her polling
with Arab Americans in Michigan is really bad because of
that as well. And so I think there it's you know,
it's hard for us to believe that people wouldn't stand
with Israel because we're our party is so pro Israel,
and you know, just like honoring those lives that were
lost and the hostage is still in there because of
(10:46):
the Biden administrations and competence and so. I but I
think she's in a tough place because I do think
probably it breaks down maybe if I had to guest
like seventy thirty within her party and so, and that's
a big issue for the people who are pro Palestine.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
A lot of them may.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Hold out votes for her because they feel so passionately
about that.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
We'll come back into the campus protests. Have you seen,
by the way, I have friends in New York City
sending me video from today of some of these protests
that are happening out on the streets in solidarity with
Palestine and Hamas, or the Palestinians rather in Hamas. So
we'll get into it. We'll get into this kind of
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You graduated with like five years ago or something, right,
so you have more of a three years ago to
how far or okay, all right, I was, I was
(12:32):
like right in this in the zone four years ago.
So you were on campus recently, you know, it's like, honestly,
like I there there were a lot of uh, you know,
there's a lot of pro Palestine sentiment and stuff. I
went to Amherst. A lot of that there twenty years ago,
a long time ago. You were like, you know, riding
chariots to our classes and everything. But were you surprised
(12:54):
by the crazy stuff going on after October seventh on
campus or are you like, no, that's just how it is.
Do you know what I'm saying? Like, what was this
just the the breakthrough of the reality that there's this
pro terrorist, anti semitism lunacy across elite schools. By the way,
I mean you went to Berkeley.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I was not shocked at all going to Berkeley. I
it wasn't as big actually when I was at cal So.
I was at col between twenty sixteen to twenty twenty.
So the big issue when I was there was remember
the fake, whipped up story about the border camps and everything.
They were saying that we were putting concentration camps on
the border because of Trump's policies down there, which was
actually Obama implemented that and Trump overturned it. But anyway,
(13:36):
so I was in too shocked because I did see
a little bit of that when I was at Cow.
But I will say when I was at Berkeley, I
don't think you know, there is segments of the pro
Palestine faction that are extremely pro Palestine, but there are
also a lot of especially the American students, it's more
this anti Western culture and for them, Israel and America
(13:57):
both represent Western culture, colonialism and everything, so it more
has to do with that. So I was in no
way shocked. I was disgusted still, but like I said,
I was at cal all those years, and I think
people are just they'll go along with every movement in
order to get out there with their signs and feel
like they're doing something.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's it's their religion. On the left, and.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You know when you see the the kinds of slogans
and everything that came out after the October seventh attack,
I mean, you know they were projecting. I think it
was a GW from the river to the sea on
a building at GW, which is which is a a
a rallying cry of Hamas and other terrorist groups in
(14:40):
the region to eliminate the entirety of the Jewish state. Harvard,
which I know is supposed to be so fancy, right,
Harvard had thirty student groups a year ago, almost of
the day, because I think they came out within a
couple of days of the attack. Thirty different student groups
came out and said that it was Israel's fault what
happened on October seventh. I mean even for me, you know,
(15:02):
I started and I worked for US Ambassador Dennis Ross,
who was Clinton's negotiator for the Camp David Accords. I
worked the Washington Stuphreneur's policy I was on the CICIA
CTC desk some of that stuff. When they came out
and I saw that at Harvard, I was like, this
is insane, Like these people they're blaming Israel for an
attack that just happened.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I remember I commented and posted Bears for Palestine, which
is Cal's Palestine group, and they were celebrating the people
who went in and put babies in ovens and slaughtered families.
To the point when I was like seeing these images
on Twitter, I actually brought tears to my like I
couldn't even like it just was so horrific, Like I
(15:46):
thought nine to eleven was the most horrific thing that
could ever happen, and I do think this in some
way was like more barbaric and like the way that
this attack was done, and so it just I when
I read that that they were celebrating these people as martyrs.
It was just it's almost you have to almost think,
is this ignorance, like they don't understand what they're supporting,
(16:09):
And just the anti Americanism throughout all of these college
through all of our colleges and through our education system
has just brainwashed people or these people truly like supporting evil.
And I think that there's a lot of divisions in
this country, with especially young people, where people have a
lot of malice for one another.
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Speaker 3 (17:43):
Thank you so much for having me on back. Have
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Brief. On this episode,
Jamie Franklin joins. She is the founder of Conservator. She
is a conservative Generation Z commentator, right your gen Z,
which is exciting. I'm an old millennial, so I feel like,
you know, I used to be hip. But we're going
to talk about the Kamala campaign here, And first off,
(00:44):
I didn't know that you're going to explain this to me. Okay,
you're coming from a young, young female conservative perspective, this
call her Daddy interview that Kamala did. I don't really
I had heard of this before this podcast. I've heard
a couple of clips of it. What I was shocked
by was how popular this apparently is. Like, tell me
(01:07):
about this, because I feel like I had no idea.
There are so many young women out there who want
to hear the kind of stuff that this woman's talking about.
So where did this call her Daddy phenomenon come from?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I know it's it's honestly a little depressing. I think
it's rated right now. The second most popular podcasts in
America behind Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, I feel like, is
what a lot of guys listen to, which you know, talks.
He brings on scientists, Amazon expert people who explore the
Amazon and everything.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I listened to that Amazon guy by the way, that
was really interesting. I liked the bee lady too, who
does all the bees like like this? You know, I
don't know if you saw that one anyway, that's Rogan.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, he has some interesting guests on that I think
bring a lot of interesting information. Call Her Daddy is
very different. She started a few years ago. I've never
listened really. I actually listened to the Kamala episode too
for this podcast. I had to do it for everyone,
but that was the only podcast I've ever listened to
of hers. But it's huge if young women. I think
(02:08):
it's a huge part of the cold sure that we're
seeing today. And I think a lot of conservatives were
really shocked after the overturning of Roe v.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Wade how popular abortion is with women.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And I definitely think her and other outlets are exactly
the reason for that. It's, you know, just the epitome
a fifth wave of feminism and just cultural decay and
sexual promiscuity.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, the stuff that I was here in And again,
I don't want to sound like, you know, I got
a little touch of gray in the beard here. I
don't want to sound like the old man who's like,
what are the kids talking about these days? But the stuff,
I mean, what she gets into on that podcast. I've
seen some clips. It's like very graphic. I mean, it's
about as graphic as words can be. And Kamala Harris
(02:51):
wants to be president. She's sitting there, she does very
few interviews. Why does she choose Call her Daddy as
the podcast that she's going to sit down with among
just a handful that she has done.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I mean, they're definitely vying for the young woman vote.
That's the base of the Democratic Party now it's all
young women. I mean someone tweeted out that Trump went
on Dave Ramsey last week to talk about the economy
and Kamala went on Call Her Daddy to talk about
abortion and all of those issues, and so definitely shows
the contrast on you know.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Where the base of the party and the issues are.
I was in shock.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I went on her Twitter they call her daddy Twitter
and I typed in some key words when we were
pulling up some graphics to put out on the Conservator,
and I was actually in shock by some of the
stuff I read on there. It's it's really depraved, Like
it's very upsetting and depressing that this is what a
lot of women, especially young women who are coming of
age and might not know better, and this is what.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
They are consuming on a regular basis.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And I think, you know, we need to have media
outlets that attract more women and counteract these messages because
it's I think really damaging to young women if they
behave and if they follow the advice of Alex Cooper.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, I mean, you're you're a young conservative woman. You've
got conservatur which you founded online, and so I know
there are some places for women who have a young
women who have a right of center opinion to go to.
But it does feel like the ecosystem, especially for women
aged sixteen to thirty, you know, or eighteen to thirty five,
(04:25):
or however you want to slice the demographic, they're just there.
It's dominated by these far left voices, like young women
have been you know, men are going in the other direction.
Young men are going in the other direction. Young men
are becoming increasingly conservative, it feels like young women are
becoming increasingly left wing. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I could not agree more.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And I think a lot of conservative men, like yourself,
you know, you're not going to go and pick up
Vogue magazine right when you're at the airport like women do.
So I don't feel a lot of you guys saw
this coming. But that was really the reason why I
started the Conservatoire back in twenty twenty, because I was
just I always wanted to go into fashion actually, and
I was interested being a journalist and I went to
fashion school and all these things when I was also
(05:10):
went to Berkeley, but I did both, and I was
just like, I don't belong here, like there's no place
for this. And when I was at Berkeley as well,
I just couldn't believe, you know, I grew up going
to Catholic school my entire life, and just going to
cal Berkeley and seeing the culture there, especially with young
women and kind of along the lines of what they
talk about and call her daddy. I was shocked by it.
But it's they've definitely captured the young woman vote. It's
(05:33):
we need to dig ourselves out of this hole. I'm
really happy with the way that the male vote is going,
which which is why I think you see like Trump
going on in Theobonne and stuff like that, and with
the milk boys.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But call her daddy.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You know, I don't know the political calculus of how
that's going to come out, because I think it'd be
really off turning to a lot of especially male independence.
And I think also in light of her Kane, Helene
just looked very tone death and the fact that she
doesn't even do any other interviews. And I listened to
her interview and it was once again another word salad
where I learned absolutely nothing about any of her policies.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Or what she plans to do.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yes, it is the case that Kamala Harris does remind
everybody why she doesn't do interviews when she does interviews.
So we'll come back to that in one second. Jamie,
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(07:14):
Jamie kamala is were a few weeks away from the elections?
Crazy right? I think three and change from the actual
election day. And all of a sudden she does a
flurry of media, She does all these interviews. What's up
with that? I thought she was avoiding the press. Is
it because she's losing? Do you think this was always
part of their plan? What's the game here?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, it's definitely interesting because they were hiding her for
a very long time, So to me, that signals I
think that there's some internal pulling showing that people are
uncomfortable with her. I think Democrats had a really smart
job by moving her in at the last minute, like
what was it, two and a half months before this election,
so we could purposely not learn more about her policies
and honestly, her incompetency when it comes to interviewing and
(07:57):
being able to explain anything. I kind of I agree
a lot with Trump. I don't think she's an incredibly
smart person, and I think she can't think on her feet.
I think she was performed actually better than I thought
she in the debate, because she is she memorizes the
lines and can get them out. But when it's off
the cuff, she's obviously not doing well. But it kind
of feels like a hail Mary here. So I think
(08:19):
we should feel happy that they're feeling like they have
to go here.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Did you hear in the sixty minutes interview, there's there's
a clip where she says, I have the quote because
I really want to have this is the word for
word quote. Okay, Well, the question is something about n Yahoo, right, like, basically,
do you stand with n Yahoo? Here's what she says, Well, Bill,
the work that we have done has resulted in a
(08:44):
number of movements in that region by Israel that were
very much prompted by or a result of many things,
including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
That is a way of saying, we did some things
that made some stuff happened to some things that were
also things.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, it's I think she's also in the Democratic Party
is in a really tough place right now, honestly because
their base is just anti Trump. So they kind of
have like some of these never Trump Republicans that are
kind of probably a little bit more conservative on a
lot of policies, especially with the economy and on some
social issues. And then they have palaes signed flag wheeling,
(09:25):
blue haired. They the pronoun people also in their party,
so anytime they speak, they're going to cause divisions within
their party. So I do think in a way, like
once again, I do think it's also she can't explain
a lot of these policies herself because she doesn't do
the background and prep needed for it. But I also
think she's scared about like alienating people in their base
(09:46):
because it's a very fractured party when you actually get
down to the issues.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, and I think that you see that also with
the Israeli Palestinian issue, right, that's and which comes up
in the context of net Yahoo. She's out there trying
to tell everybody that we stand with Israel, but she
doesn't stand with net Yahoo and she's not sure about
the Israeli military response to October seventh than you and
(10:10):
I are sitting here talking on the anniversary of October seventh.
I don't think she can have it both ways with this.
I think Democrats are caught a little bit here with
the both sides ism of well, I stand with Hamas,
but I also stand with Israel. You can't. You can't
actually do.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
That, I agree, And I've I've heard that her polling
with Arab Americans in Michigan is really bad because of
that as well. And so I think there it's you know,
it's hard for us to believe that people wouldn't stand
with Israel because we're our party is so pro Israel,
and you know, just like honoring those lives that were
lost and the hostage is still in there because of
(10:46):
the Biden administrations and competence and so. I but I
think she's in a tough place because I do think
probably it breaks down maybe if I had to guest
like seventy thirty within her party and so, and that's
a big issue for the people who are pro Palestine.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
A lot of them may.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Hold out votes for her because they feel so passionately
about that.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
We'll come back into the campus protests. Have you seen,
by the way, I have friends in New York City
sending me video from today of some of these protests
that are happening out on the streets in solidarity with
Palestine and Hamas, or the Palestinians rather in Hamas. So
we'll get into it. We'll get into this kind of
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dot org. Uh. You know I graduated twenty years ago.
You graduated with like five years ago or something, right,
so you have more of a three years ago to
how far or okay, all right, I was, I was
(12:32):
like right in this in the zone four years ago.
So you were on campus recently, you know, it's like, honestly,
like I there there were a lot of uh, you know,
there's a lot of pro Palestine sentiment and stuff. I
went to Amherst. A lot of that there twenty years ago,
a long time ago. You were like, you know, riding
chariots to our classes and everything. But were you surprised
(12:54):
by the crazy stuff going on after October seventh on
campus or are you like, no, that's just how it is.
Do you know what I'm saying? Like, what was this
just the the breakthrough of the reality that there's this
pro terrorist, anti semitism lunacy across elite schools. By the way,
I mean you went to Berkeley.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I was not shocked at all going to Berkeley. I
it wasn't as big actually when I was at cal So.
I was at col between twenty sixteen to twenty twenty.
So the big issue when I was there was remember
the fake, whipped up story about the border camps and everything.
They were saying that we were putting concentration camps on
the border because of Trump's policies down there, which was
actually Obama implemented that and Trump overturned it. But anyway,
(13:36):
so I was in too shocked because I did see
a little bit of that when I was at Cow.
But I will say when I was at Berkeley, I
don't think you know, there is segments of the pro
Palestine faction that are extremely pro Palestine, but there are
also a lot of especially the American students, it's more
this anti Western culture and for them, Israel and America
(13:57):
both represent Western culture, colonialism and everything, so it more
has to do with that. So I was in no
way shocked. I was disgusted still, but like I said,
I was at cal all those years, and I think
people are just they'll go along with every movement in
order to get out there with their signs and feel
like they're doing something.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's it's their religion. On the left, and.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You know when you see the the kinds of slogans
and everything that came out after the October seventh attack,
I mean, you know they were projecting. I think it
was a GW from the river to the sea on
a building at GW, which is which is a a
a rallying cry of Hamas and other terrorist groups in
(14:40):
the region to eliminate the entirety of the Jewish state. Harvard,
which I know is supposed to be so fancy, right,
Harvard had thirty student groups a year ago, almost of
the day, because I think they came out within a
couple of days of the attack. Thirty different student groups
came out and said that it was Israel's fault what
happened on October seventh. I mean even for me, you know,
(15:02):
I started and I worked for US Ambassador Dennis Ross,
who was Clinton's negotiator for the Camp David Accords. I
worked the Washington Stuphreneur's policy I was on the CICIA
CTC desk some of that stuff. When they came out
and I saw that at Harvard, I was like, this
is insane, Like these people they're blaming Israel for an
attack that just happened.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I remember I commented and posted Bears for Palestine, which
is Cal's Palestine group, and they were celebrating the people
who went in and put babies in ovens and slaughtered families.
To the point when I was like seeing these images
on Twitter, I actually brought tears to my like I
couldn't even like it just was so horrific, Like I
(15:46):
thought nine to eleven was the most horrific thing that
could ever happen, and I do think this in some
way was like more barbaric and like the way that
this attack was done, and so it just I when
I read that that they were celebrating these people as martyrs.
It was just it's almost you have to almost think,
is this ignorance, like they don't understand what they're supporting,
(16:09):
And just the anti Americanism throughout all of these college
through all of our colleges and through our education system
has just brainwashed people or these people truly like supporting evil.
And I think that there's a lot of divisions in
this country, with especially young people, where people have a
lot of malice for one another.
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Speaker 3 (17:43):
Thank you so much for having me on back. Have
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