Battleground LIVE: Vindicating Trump w/Dinesh D'Souza

Tonight on Battleground LIVE:

• In depth conversation with Dinesh D’Souza on his brand new movie Vindicating Trump

• The Uniparty

• Why the left attacks Trump the way they do

• The real threat to liberty in America

 

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Patriots on a Tuesday, Folks, guess what, I am very

(00:37):
very very excited to tell you that I've got Danesh
Desuza on deck. He's awesome. He's a patriot. He's the producer, creator, director,
probably also writer of the amazing new movie Vindicating Trump,
in so many other films. I cannot wait to get

(00:59):
to him because he's just such an unbelievable American patriot.
And I've been waiting to meet this guy for a
very long time. So I'm also a little bit nervous.
You know, I've never met him before. It's kind of cool.
I've been a big fan of his for a long time.
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(03:34):
this country, you want to make sure that you work hard,
that you pay your bills so that your children can
inherit a better life than you than you had. I
think any parent that is a responsible parent, that loves
this country, that loves their family thinks that. And for

(03:57):
the first time in a very long time, I feel
like it's not a foregone conclusion that our children will
inherit a better country than we had. And I ultimately
think that will be the driving motivator in this election.
When people go into that booth, that voting booth, do
you look at all the polls take the temperature of
this nation, snapshot of what's happening in the moment on

(04:20):
any given issue. But when people go into that voting booth,
I think they're gonna look at what their life was
like three years ago and look at what their life
is like today. And I think the driving motivator again
between how and why people pull that lever for Trump
is going to be their life was just so much

(04:40):
easier with President Trump in office. And that brings me
to the point, how do we get to the point
in this country where the Overton window has just gone
so far to the left where it seems like we're
talking about babies being born alive during a botched abortion
procedure and not admitt strain them medical caregs. Somehow, some

(05:02):
way here in America, that debate and that conversation is
okay with many people on the radical left. I think
part of the reason how we got to where we
are today is because conservatives Republicans have been the party
of small government, have been the party of low taxes

(05:23):
for a very long time. And I agree with all
of those things, but in doing so, we seeded the culture.
We seeded our education system, we seeded Hollywood. We've seeded
big media. We didn't engage on the cultural issues that
many traditional Americans care about, and that, Folks, was to
our great detriment. And that's why I loved Danesh Jasuza

(05:48):
and all of his work so much, because he engages
on the cultural battlefield. And if we agree that politics
is indeed downstream from culture, you shape cultural perception. We
elect better leaders into Washington that reflect those cultural values,
and we end up with better representative leaders. And Denesh

(06:11):
Deesuza is over the target. So I've got him here
in my virtual green room and I'd like to bring
him on. Introduce to you all to Denesh Jesuza. Denesh,
first of all, my friend, thank you so much for
joining the show and giving us a little bit of
your time today.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Hey, it's my pleasure, delighted to join you and looking
forward to our discussion.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So, Denesh, I told folks before you came on that
I was a huge fan of you, of all of
your work for a very very long time. I came
back from Afghanistan in two thousand and seven and was
shocked at how fast President Obama when he got in office,
was changing this country. I was shocked. I mean that

(06:55):
the media just became almost outright propaganda. And by the way,
it's so so much worse to day the nesh than
it was back then. And I thought it was bad
back then. And then I remember watching a movie called
America Imagine a World Without Her, and just that movie

(07:15):
affected me very very deeply. And I remember something that
you said during that movie that stuck with me for
a very long time, and ultimately it was a catalyst
for me getting more involved politically in this country. And
never thought I was going to run for office at
that time, but just get more involved. And it was
and you said something like, how badly we as in

(07:39):
America needs a Washington, a Lincoln, a Reagan. We don't
have them, but we have us. So I know what
I took from that. But can you help me and
maybe the viewers listeners help us understand exactly what you
meant by saying that.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
I think what it meant is this that the Founders
created a country where, and it's been this way for
most of the past two hundred years, the ordinary citizen
didn't have to devote too much attention to politics. You
can like live your life, climb the ladder, enjoy the
American dream. The structure of the constitution protects you. But

(08:21):
there are times in the country's history where the guardrails
kind of fall down. That certainly happened at the Revolution,
it happened in the period leading up to the Civil War,
and it's happened now. And what happens is it's like
the whole system is called into question, and by tragic necessity,
the ordinary citizen now has a greater burden than you

(08:43):
normally have, which is the country actually needs you to
get involved, not just by voting, but by putting your
hands into the process. And I think we're living through
one of those times, because if we lose the country,
it's really hard to get it back. You look at
countries that have gone through a certain transition, hit a
tipping point. Look at the country like Venezuela. Short of

(09:06):
outside intervention, it's hard to see how you recover that country.
The citizens are now powerless, and the government openly rigs elections,
and they've basically got thugs in the street, and they've
got they put the military on you if they have to.
We aren't there yet, but it's quite clear we're heading
in the direction of becoming more of a police state.
I mean, when I was in the Reagan administration, we

(09:29):
would we had these clearly defined ingredients of police states.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
They have systematic surveillance, They got censorship, they have political prisoners,
they have this kind of mind numbing ideological indoctrination in
the schools and the media. They have criminalization of political differences,
trying to lock up the leader of the opposition party,
if not kill them. Well, ge, go down that checklist.
I mean, it's all here, right, every single one of

(09:55):
those defining elements is in this country. And it's not
coming from Trump, coming from the left. It's coming from
the Democrats. So so I think we're in a serious situation.
Trump is the larger than life figure that has been
sort of coughed up by American by the American system
and by in a peculiar way. He is equipped to

(10:17):
have this fight. You know, he's liked in the Western movie.
He's the outsider who comes over the mountain. And you
don't know a whole lot about that guy. You don't
know how he became the fastest gun in the West.
But that's the guy that the outlaws are scared of
because they know that, you know, we don't have to
worry about the old sheriff with the two freshman seventy
year old rifle. You know, we can handle that guy.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
It was Ryan that that brings us to vindicating Trump
your latest movie, and that analogy, your Western analogy in
the book, was so brilliant, and it's something that I
hadn't considered, the idea that we are in the grips
of a great Western narrative where the government is like
this cabal of of gangsters, almost, And you make that

(10:58):
reference in the film, and you start out the film
clearly defining the stakes. As Trump comes down that escalator
where you know, the uniparty call him whatever you want.
You have Republicans reacting to Trump and Paul Ryan they're
not taking him seriously. They even say at one point,
Jeb will take care of him. And and that's the
thing that I love about the movie is that it's

(11:18):
funny in many ways. In retrospect, you think, like Jem's
gonna take care of Trump, and of course we know
that that's not true. And you see the Democrats kind
of blow him off as a joke, even though clearly
some of the base elements of the Democrat Party love
the fact that he was an icon, or love the
fact that he was on this show called Apprentice, then

(11:40):
of course you had the media moguls. Nobody took this
guy seriously. But he represented that ultimate outsider, that character
in the Western that comes into town, clean things up
and walks away off into the sunset. And I think
that brings me to your central thesis is like the
question of who is the great threat to democracy in
this country? Is it Trump because the left would have

(12:03):
you believe that it's Trump, or is it everybody else?
And I thought you addressed that just perfectly.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
The important thing about Trump is that there's a reason
that they call him a dictator, right. In other words,
here's the reason Trump has a larger than life dimension.
If you think about someone like Julius Caesar and you watch,
you know, Shakespeare's Caesar performed, you notice that when Caesar
enters the room, all eyes turn. Caesar is a massive celebrity.

(12:31):
In Caesar's case, of course, it's because he's a military hero.
In Trump Trump's case, it's because he was a massive
cultural celebrity. But nevertheless, it's a larger than life figure
and everybody else feels small around caesar, and the left
feels small around Trump. They don't have a caesar, quite honestly.
I mean, you can't call Biden with his nos walk caesar,

(12:51):
you know. Kamala Harris is like, you know, it's these
are cartoon figures compared to Trump. But the Democratic Party
as a whole putting all its institutional power together, the
police agencies of the government, so they haven't they're a caesar.
They're an eight hundred pound gorilla. Trump is an eight
hundred pound gorilla who can take on their eight hundred
pound gorilla. This is what makes the ambivalence of so

(13:15):
many people in the GOP so mystifying. They're like the
townspeople who are like, we don't need Clint Eastwood. You know,
we don't need John Wayne.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
You've got the old sheriff.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Right over here. Why doesn't John Wayne learn to fight
like us. It's crazy, it makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
It's so true, it's so true. It like, it's such
a great point when you talk about the old guard
GOP and how Trump has really changed the party. You know,
I think for me, as someone who came up as
a Republican in the Trump era, was that I just
became tired, and I lived through that transition period of

(13:54):
the mccains and the Romneys to where we are with
Trump and a lot of the America First who are
in Congress right now. I'm tired of being the party
of the gentleman loser. I want to win. I want
the outsider to come in and clean things up. And
you know, you did a great job of breaking that
down for people in this film. But also what I

(14:14):
think you did, which is I'll tell you Denesh is
not done enough. My friend, is you did a brilliant job,
and I mean brilliant job of humanizing this guy.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
This was a little bit of my goal when I
first met Trump. And you know, I'm not some guy
who's like known Trump. I don't claim to be a
in the inside. I met Trump for the first time
in twenty nineteen. This was a year after I got
a pardon from Trump, and which itself is interesting. I
never knew the guy. He didn't owe me a thing,
but he did the pardon, and then I met him

(14:47):
in the White House with my family and we noticed
that there was a kind of you know, Trump is
like famously egotistical and publica He's hilariously egotistical. He's so
over the top it's laughable. Right.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
You had this question from him in the film, like
right at the beginning of the film where or somebody's
talking to him in an older interview like Trump has
an ego. He's like, well, he's like if I was humble,
you wouldn't be in a building like this right now?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Right?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Or you know, absolutely, I mean he his crowds aren't
just big. They have to be the biggest crowds like ever.
You know, his burger Marlago isn't just tasty, it's like
the best burger ever made. He's over the top. But
you would expect that in private, a guy like that
would be like insufferable, like intolerable. But in private, Trump

(15:34):
is a little shy, he's a little self deprecating. He
shows a great deal of interest in people, including people
he's never met, and people he has met. He remembers
things about them, like I heard your kid was taking
an exam? How did that come out?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
People are like blown away, They're like what so, So
my point is I saw this side of Trump up close,
and my wife was like, why does this show he does?
Why does he show that to the American people. So
in the interview with Trump, you know, I knew it
was going to be tricky because I've seen interviews what
Trump is. You know, you ask him one question, he
goes for thirty minutes straight, Yes, the runaway train. So

(16:09):
I'm like, I don't want that to happen. I want
to sit really close up with him, ask him questions
that are a little different than he normally gets. I
want people to see the tumblers of his mind working,
and I also want him to expose a little of
that private side of him that's actually very endearing. He
may have a bit of a manly resistance like showing
it on the public stage, but maybe I can bring

(16:30):
it out in a subtle way. So I'm really thrilled
that you saw that in the movie I've worked hard
to try to produce. How did you do it?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
How did you do it? I'm sitting there with my
wife and like, you know, we have a relationship like you,
I've got a relationship with Donald Trump. Not like his
best friend or anything like that, but I've I've had
access to the family and to him more than the
average bearso to speak. And my wife and I were
talking while we watched this movie and I said to her,
I said, this is like the best damn interview I've

(16:59):
ever seeing Donald Trump have. And it was precisely because
you you could see him engaging on a deep and
substantive level with the questions that you were asking, And
how the hell did you do that?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Part of it is is to know where Trump doesn't
want to go. So I watched the Doctor Phil interview,
and doctor Phil, being a psychologist, was trying very hard
to sort of put Trump on the couch, right, Yeah,
like the assassination, How did it make you feel? You
can't do that to Trump? He will not he will
not go there, he will not respond, He'll he'll just
say something else. So my idea was to ask him

(17:36):
questions that are in his in his zone, right, but
a little surprising. So kind of like this. They say
that you called for an insurrection. As far as I
can see, you didn't do that. You didn't tell people
go in the capital, take it over or stop the count.
You didn't do that. But had you called for an
insurrection on January sixth, there would have been one, I

(17:57):
mean a real one, and there would be one if
you called for one. Now, So that means that you
have a peculiar kind of power. Well, what do you
intend to do with that power? And then you can
see Trump, I mean, I don't think he's been asked
that in that way. He was like, you can see
his eyes kind of.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I wrote down what he said, Denesh, I wrote down
what he said. Trump said, I mean, that was a
very powerful moment in this film. Trump said, I don't
know if I have that power. I don't know if
I want that power. I've never seen Trump answer a
question like that, like I'm like a ride or died
Trump guy. But that was just a powerful I thought

(18:32):
it was just a powerful exchange.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well, it's the beauty of filmmaking. You know. I have
a book that goes with this film, and the book
lays out the argument very systematically. The beauty of a
film is that I don't have to tell you about Trump, right.
I got Trump right there, and so you can see
for yourself. It's clearly unrehearsed. He has no questions in advance.
You can see that he's reflecting, he's thinking. For people

(18:55):
who say things like, oh, he's super dumb, he doesn't
know what's going on, the opposite is true. And so
the film is able to show and not tell. It
puts Trump right up front and center. That's the centerpiece
of the movie. But as you, I'm glad you also
enjoyed the recreations because a lot of times when people
do a documentary, they just do a couple of interviews

(19:16):
and then they put some stock footage. Hey, here's my documentary.
I'm trying to make a movie for the theater.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
It was amazing. It was Dennessh. It was so entertaining.
He's got Dennessh just got this, like for folks who
are listening or watching, has got this like militant looking
lesbian and there clearly on the left in charge of
all the voter fraud. And yes, the Democrats have been
cheating an election since eighteen sixty four. This is well documented.
Denesh I ran in twenty twenty. I watched them cheat.

(19:42):
I was blown away by how resistant, not just resistant.
The media just wouldn't talk about it. But that's a
conversation for another time. But like, there's this militant lesbian
character that you have in here is talking about the
underground railroad and she's got a black staffer that works
for and he breaks the fourth wall and looks at
the camera and he's just like talking about the underground railroad,

(20:03):
which she's just like And I had to say, like,
I like, I laughed at that, And I found myself
laughing at those recreations so much. I mean, it's so
much more than just a documentary. With recreations. You you
make great use of mockery, which is I think an
ultimate political weapon. And it was so well done.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Conservatives don't generally do this. They don't use the techniques
of the creative arts. And you know, I've always thought
that a good documentary, a good nonfiction film, should have
all the same elements of a good fiction film. It
needs character, it needs blot it needs narrative, suspense, climax,
outright laugh out loud moments which you remember after the film.

(20:49):
So this is really what gets films in the theater. Now,
this film is toward the end of the theatrical run,
but it's going to be available in streaming and DVD.
And the book is a nice companion piece because the
book in a way more systematically. You want the references,
you want to know how every statement is supported. This
is laid out beautifully in the book.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Well, I have to tell you, like so so many
broke down the lawfair very very well. And by the way,
you yourself, you mentioned it were a victim of lawfair
before it was a branded term. In fact, any Republican
that is a threat to the narrative or the power
structures of the Democrats, because that's that's what they care
about the most, keeping and retaining power. And anyone who

(21:31):
gets in the way of that. You as an effective
story teller, somebody who's really affecting culture, they've got to
go after you. They got to smear you because they
have nothing else. And they're doing the same thing to Trump.
And you said something in this film towards the end.
Of course, I'm not going to give away all of it,
but you said, I'm paraphrasing here, Denesh, but you said,

(21:51):
you know, they use character assassination as a justification for
actual assassination. And again it's just so powerful and well said, and.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Then they deny it. You know, when a shot at Trump,
they're sending him thoughts and prayers. Now I think about
it's the same people who are saying Trump is Hitler
circa nineteen thirty three, basically telling any kook in our society.
You'll be a hero if you take this guy out,
just like you would have been a hero had you
taken Hitler out in nineteen thirty three. And then they're

(22:23):
offering Hitler thoughts and prayers. Think about their ridiculousness of that.
So what that really tells me is that they know
he's not Hitler. This is the smear that they've been
using to fire up and also maybe you know, stimulate
the kooks on their side. And there are a lot
of them, as you know, So they're playing a very

(22:44):
dangerous game here. And part of what I'm wrestling with
is the question of how you stop it.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Now.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I don't go into that so much in the film,
but in the book I make a very clear argument,
which is basically, we have to do to them what
they're doing to us, otherwise they will never stop. Lincoln
understood this by the way. Lincoln adopted this approach in
the years of the Civil War, when you recognize that
you had to do exactly to the Confederates the stuff
that they were doing, and because that is the only

(23:14):
way to stop a bully is to kind of bully
them back.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
And the Left is relentless, and you actually talk about
in the end of the film. You know, again the
central thesis is who's the real threat to democracy? In
the end, it's sure as I wasn't Trump, and anyone
watching or listening to this program knows that that's the case.
But you say that these the left are the people
that Lincoln warned about, like the tyrants that will erode

(23:44):
the constitution, that will erode individual freedoms. You show some effective,
just like very effective b roll of what Walls and
Harris have represented just during their walls in his time
as Minnesota governor, police screaming at people and shooting what
looks to be like paint routs at them to get
back in their house during the height of COVID. And
you're exactly right. The left, I mean, they project onto

(24:07):
us all the things that they actually are.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
The key thing is that they are the caesar that
Lincoln warned about. People don't recognize that because first of all,
they when they think of a tyrant, they think of
like some guy with a Hitler mustache or like a
Stalin overcoat. The democratic caesar is represented by a regime.
Uh And it's important to realize that that in a way,

(24:32):
we don't have a normal government anymore. Because the regime
picked Biden, they moved him to the front of the line.
No primary for you, Biden, by the way, you're the
face of the party, but we tell you what to do.
You're in the canoe, but you're not steering the canoe.
And frankly, if we need at some point we need
to get rid of you, you're out of here. Tamala

(24:53):
Harris is back on the same terms, right, no primary. Listen,
you're gonna be our person, but you're gonna do what
we tell you. And frankly, if you become inconvenient and
we need to hit the eject button on you, you
have to go out with a smile. So practice you're
cackle and you're laughed, as you might be laughing as
you're shot out of the airplane, you know, at some

(25:13):
point in the future. So what does this mean? I mean,
what it really means? And Trump has said this a
couple of times, like there's a hunter running our country
right now and has been for four years. We can
guess at who those people are. I'm guessing that Pelosi
and Schumer and Obama are in that group, and maybe
another thirty people, but we don't know their names, and
they haven't been directly elected, at least not for the presidency.

(25:36):
And so this is the system of government the Democrats
are offering us for the next four years. It's kind
of scary, it is.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
And you think about what Elon Musk said, and actually
Trump said before him. He says it in your film,
like this could be very much the last real election.
And I mean, that's just the stakes, right Denesh, that's
the stakes of where we are right now. In the
end of the film, listen, everybody that's watching, you got
to go out and watch vindicating Trump. Get the companion book.

(26:03):
This stuff is just it's always talk about dennes two Republicans, Conservatives,
people aspiring to run for office, incumbents. You got to
understand what time it is. And the left certainly does.
There's never a question. They get it, and they move
the progressive football down the field relentlessly. We've got to
match that intensity. And you give us a roadmap. You

(26:26):
give us like a breakdown in an intel and and
just core arguments for why we're right, you know, and
and why we're on the side of good. And you know,
in the end of it, you talk about, you know,
all of the election fraud stuff which people got to
go get it. But Denesh, like i've you've been very
generous with your time and I don't want to keep

(26:46):
you a second over. But tell us how we can
support you, where we can find you, and what you
need this audience to do for you in the in
our movement the U.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
The website is Vindicating Trump dot Com. The movie still
in theaters, probably just for a short more period, but
it will then be available in other ways. You'll be
able to stream it, You'll be able to get DVDs.
You can pre order DVDs on the website now. So
Vindicating Trump dot Com. The book is available through Amazon, Barnes,
and Noble. It's going to be my job, so I'll

(27:17):
worry about this. People will say to me, well, Dennis,
how are you going to make sure that tens of
millions of people see this film. I'll figure that out.
How will you make sure that independence and wavering Republicans
see this film? I'll do that. All I'm asking you
to do is enjoy the film. By the way, Sure
if you have a family member who's a wavering Republican,
or you know a buddy who's a Democrat's like Hey, listen,

(27:38):
I'll buy your ticket. Let's go. You know, I'll take
you out for thy food afterward. And so do your
part and I'll do my part. The film is a
kind of messaging that you won't get out out of
the typical campaign commercial because the film is a story.
You know, it draws people in. And so if you're
an independent voter, which would you rather watch, you know,

(27:59):
the same commercial like five hundred times? Would you rather
sit down with your family and watch a ninety minute
film that's going to make you laugh a whole bunch
of times and talk about it afterward? So I create
this messaging in a way that is very entertaining. It
is it is it appeals to the head and the heart.
Movies are an emotional medium, so it's got really good

(28:20):
music that runs under the under the narrative, and so
it is it draws people in in a way that
that normal political discourse doesn't do. And so you know,
it's up to our team to help amplify this kind
of message as much as you can. So just do
what you can to share.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
The word denish. Can I ask you one final question,
why do this? You had to know they're going to
come after you with why.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
You know, I think when I had my campaign finance
skirmish with the Obama administration, it altered my view of politics.
And I think, by the way, kind of the same
thing has happened to Trump. Trump came in wide eyed.
You know, I'm an independent guy, and they're like, exactly,
you know, they all took out their shotgun. Here's ninety
one criminal charges for you have boom, you know, And

(29:05):
the same thing happened to me. If you had asked
me in my early career, like describe American politics. I
mean I had family in India that would ask me, like,
what's American, I'd be like, listen, guys, American politics is
sort of like a debating society. Got few sides, and
they have rival visions and they're gonna put them out there.
One cares about liberty, the other equality. The American people
kind of scratch their head and there's a pendulum. Sometimes

(29:27):
we go this way. It wasn't until my case with
the Obama people that I realized, you know what, I'm
dealing with a bunch of gangsters. These people on a
trivial offense could lock me up for twenty years. They
do it.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
They play for keeps, man.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
They played for keeps. They saw me, they didn't see
me as like an immigrant gone wrong. They're like, this
guy's a dead enemy. You gotta take him out.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Immigrant.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
I need to revise my understanding of what I'm basically
in the gunfight of the Okay Corral. You know, I'm
not in some I'm not at some Oxford debating club,
and so I've modified my own viewpoint but also my
own style, and ironically, going through this kind of experience
produces a certain kind of fearlessness and you And that's

(30:13):
something I actually see in Trump and identify with in
a very small way. Is I can see how he
basically goes I've kind of through the fire and now
I'm like, I'm done with it. You know, He's like,
I'm gonna keep going.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
He's like he's like Mel Gibson in the Road Warrior,
Like You've crossed a certain path and now it's like
it's getting ready for the fire next time.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
There's there's an autobiography, a memoir in your future. Denes
d'eshoo's a immigrant gone wrong. I'm telling you, I see
it right there. I mean, Denesh, thank you, my friend.
You are you're a cultural icon and you're a great storyteller.
I mean, we don't on our side, we do not
have enough creative conservatives out there, you know, in the fight.

(30:56):
So thank you for giving us some of your time today.
You're the best, my friend.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Absolutely, I appreciate it. Thank you, all right.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
See Denish, that's Denest de Suzza. I'm telling you support
this film Vindicating Trump by the companion piece Vindicating Trumpet's
Denesta Suz. I mean it like we have abdicated, you know,
as conservatives on many many fronts the culture, like writing
fiction books, telling great nonfiction stories, engaging on a documentary front.

(31:26):
And when we have people out there on the parapet
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we've got to support them. So we should definitely support
vindicating Trump. Definitely support Denesta Suza. And also, I'm telling
you he is right when he says that it's it's
a funny film. Like Melanie came downstairs, She's like, what

(31:47):
are you laughing about?

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Him?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Like, it's this film, It's funny. It's very very very
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The Democrats are very afraid, and I've talked to people
on the inside of their campaigns, and yes, I come
from a Union Democrat family. I do know people within

(36:08):
the Democrat Party. I do know some people in the
Democrat Party, and I can tell you that they are afraid.
They are afraid. Republicans are playing the mail in ballot
game better than they are right now. In fact, in Pennsylvania,
Republican requests for mail in ballots exceeded the Democrats today. Okay,

(36:31):
Democrats had approximately eight thousand requests for ballots. Republicans had
eight three hundred requests for mail in ballots. Listen, I
don't like mail in voting. If I were the governor
of Pennsylvania, I'd get rid of it yesterday. But the
political rules of the battlefield are what they are, and
we have to fight the fight in order to dismantle
the power structures of the left. But for the first

(36:55):
time ever ever, especially in the state of Pennsylvania, Republicans
requested more mail in ballots than Democrats. Folks, they the left,
the Democrats, they are a fraid Kamala's internal polling numbers
and we'll talk about this more with Savage rich Bears tomorrow.

(37:16):
Her internal polling numbers are not good. She is hemorrhaging
men of all race, creed, and religion, black, white, Asian,
doesn't matter. Men are abandoning her in droves. They know
that unions are also abandoning Harris in droves. If you
don't believe me, this has explicit language.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Show.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
If you've got kids around, go ahead and throw the
ear muffs on them. But it's important for you all
to hear Democrats are hemorrhaging blue collar union support, which
shows which have been in years past. I mean, it's
their institution, it's their base, it's their muscle, it's their doorknockers,
it's their people who make phone calls, the people who

(38:00):
chase ballots. Kamala is not getting many of these endorsements.
And if you don't get the endorsements, yes, optically that's
not a good thing for any candidate to not get
an endorsement that you want. But she's also not getting
the infrastructure that comes along with the union endorsement. Listen
to the Teamsters. Okay, his name is I think Sean

(38:24):
O'Brien of the Teamsters. Listen to him talking about the
Democrats and how they've been treated by them.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Honest with you, I'm a Democrat, but they have fucked
us over for the last forty years and for onnths
and not all of them, but for once, we're standing
up as a union, probably the only one right now,
saying what the fuck have you done for us?

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
And I'm getting attacked from the left, you know, And
we've given since I've been in office two and a
half years, we've given the Democratic machine fifteen point seven
million dollars. We've given Republicans about three hundred and forty thousand,
truth be told. So it's like, you know, will say
the Democratic Party is a party of the working people.
They've bought and paid for by big tech, that big

(39:04):
those big tech companies.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Yeah, right, that's what I say.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Right, And you've got the Republicans who are now saying, hey,
we want to be the working class party, right and okay,
you've got a great opportunity right now to do that.
And the Democrats if sixty percent of our members don't
support you. The fucking system's broken, and you needed to
fix the Stop pointing fingers that, Sean O'Brien, stop pointing
fingers at the teams's union.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Look in the mirror.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
I mean I had. I had a heated debate with
heated discussion two weeks ago with Chuck Schumer, and it
got fucking ugly.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Schumer is a piece of shit, and.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
It got ugly because you know these politicians, you know,
the one thing I've learned, They fucking walk in and
they tell you I did this for you. Okay, great,
let me tell you what you haven't fucking done for
us or our members. And we got into it pretty heavy,
and I'm like, you had no problem taking five hundred
and fifty thousand dollars from me three weeks prior to
me going on the Republican National Convention, and then you

(39:59):
want to be a fu tough guy on Twitter or
x or whatever it is and throw shit out there
about me, like whatever.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Did you hear what he said? Throw stuff out there?
I'm not gonna throw throw you know what out there
about him, folks. In case you haven't noticed, this is
how the Democrats operate. Anytime the Democrats go after somebody
like like, oh, Shawn O'Brien turns on them. I think
it's named Shawn O'Brian. I don't want to make sure
I have that right. But they go after you. They

(40:32):
destroy your life. They use falsehoods to smear you in
the media. Yeah, Shaan O'Brien is the team stirs president.
They use falsehoods to destroy your life. They did it
with the Nest de Suza. Try to throw the guy
in jail for thirty freaking years on what was an
unintentional campaign finance violation. Never mind the fact that Hillary
Clinton had an unbelievable campaign finance an FEC violation where

(40:57):
she was fined eighty thousand dollars remember or what it
was for. It was for the Steele dossier. It was
for the Russia collusion hoax. She never spent one second
in prison, wasn't even charged with the crime. So if
the Democrats see you as a conservative, if the Democrats
see you or as a traditional Democrat, as someone who

(41:20):
is a threat to their power, they will move heaven
and earth to smear you. And clearly they're doing that.
The Sean O'Brien in the President of the teamsters through
fake attacks on social media and X and look, the
guy is pissed. And I'm telling you it's gotten to

(41:40):
a point for Kamala Harris and many Democrats. I'm telling
you Tammy Baldwin. Internal polling in Wisconsin has Tammy Baldwin.
I think has has the Democrats statewide candidates up three
and it has Harris down two. I mean, these are
all internal polling. Harris's campaign is crumbling, and I think

(42:04):
the Democrats know it, and so what they're trying to do.
And I want you to see this out there when
you're on social media or you're watching some of these
interviews with these clips. There is a massive strategy shift
happening within the Democrat Party right now as it pertains

(42:25):
to Kamala Harris. Do you remember the leaked call from
James Carvell that we played in the show a couple
of days ago where he says, on this call to
a bunch of young staffers, basically, what the ef are
you doing? Get Kamala out there. You're sitting on your asses.
You're not doing a damn thing. She's you're lying about

(42:48):
people's lives. What are you doing? Get out there? So
there's a reason why you've seen more of Kamala in
the media lately, and the reason for that is is
that Democrats are changing strategies. Folks, let me tell you
that winning campaigns do not change strategies this late in

(43:11):
the game. I say this as someone who's run for
office at a high level twice in Pennsylvania. Winning campaigns
do not change strategy this late in the game. Winning
campaigns stay on the same strategy and stay on the
same messaging and they ride that train through election day.
That is not what we're seeing from Kamala Harris. And

(43:31):
so Kamala Harris, you're going to see her do more
press conferences, more stand up press conferences, and more friendly media,
maybe what she assumes to be friendly media. And that's
why you're seeing her out there a little bit more.
I mean, look, she did a stand up press conference
on hurricane relief in Florida. She attacked Asantis. It did

(43:52):
not go well.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
But listen for yourself, Folks out there have survived these
hurricanes before.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
This one is.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
Going to be very very serious, and I urge you
to please just grab whatever you need. Listen to the
orders you're getting from your local officials. They know what
they're telling you, and they know what Milton is about
to be, so please do that. The other point I'd
make is that there's a lot of missing disinformation being
pushed out there by the former president about what is

(44:22):
available in particular to the survivors of Leen, and first
of all, it's extraordinarily irresponsible.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
It's about him, it's.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Not about you. And the reality is that FEMA has
so many resources that are available to folks who desperately
need them now, and resources that are about helping people
get back on their feet and rebuild and have.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Places to go.

Speaker 7 (44:48):
You are entitled to these resources.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
People are entitled to these resources, and it is critically
important that people apply to the help that is there
to support that all those resources will created for just
these kinds of moments in an emergency situation, knowing that
folks are entitled to have the relief that says so
rightly need at this moment of time. So listen to

(45:14):
your sheriff around the places that have been impacted by Helene.
Listen to your local sheriff who's going to tell you
strength about what's available to and out. For so many reasons,
in ways, there are no convictions attached to the relief
of the available to seam that.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
President, Governors de Santists, NBC is reporting Governor de Santists
and ignoring your calls on hurricanes resources and help.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
How does that hurt the situation here?

Speaker 6 (45:43):
You know, moments of crisis, if nothing else, should really
be the moment that anyone who calls themselves a leader
says they're going to put politics aside and that the
people first. People are in desperately to support right now,
and playing political games at this moment in these crisis situations,
these are the height of the emergency situations. Is an

(46:06):
utterly irritonpprehentist, selfish and it is about political gamesmanship. Is
that he's doing the job that he putn't else to do, which.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Isn't put the people first? What does it mean for
read listen, folks, she attacks DeSantis there the sitting governor
of Florida, says he's irresponsible, says he's selfish, said he's
playing political games with people's lives. Okay, Now, keep in
mind violated rule number one of campaigning. Never. I mean, look,

(46:41):
sometimes I don't want to say never, but the vast
majority of the time your attacks should be reserved for
people that you're running against. There is zero political capital
for she has the worst political instincts I think I've
ever seen. And she's also just a complete and total mora,
the dumbest person to ever grace the top of a

(47:03):
ticket in American history, that much is for sure. But
she attacked Ronda Santis. She is not running against Rond
de Santis. So Rond de Santis goes out on television
shortly after Kamala Harris attacks him and just completely bodies her. Listen,
an even.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
Bigger storm that's bearing down, as you pointed out, in
a very populated area, potentially could do even more damage.
And We've been laser focus on leveraging all resources available,
including from the federal government, and I've been in touch
with both FEMA and the President as well as marshaling
all our state agencies and working to support our local communities.

(47:43):
And so for Kamala Harris to try to say that
my sole focus on the people of Florida is somehow
selfish is delusional.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
She has no role in this.

Speaker 8 (47:55):
In fact, she's been vice president for three and a
half years. I've dealt with a number of storms under
this administration.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
She has never.

Speaker 8 (48:02):
Contributed anything to any of these efforts, and so what
I think is selfish.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Is trying to blunder into this. No, and here's she
has no role. No, she has no role in this process.

Speaker 8 (48:17):
I'm in contact with the President of the United States,
I'm in contact with FEMA director. I'm obviously managing all
our state agencies. We're supporting all our local government. And
i will say this, I've had storms under both President
Trump and President Biden, and I've worked well with both
of them. She's the first one who's trying to politicize
the storm, and she's doing that just because of her campaign.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
She's trying to get some type of an edge.

Speaker 8 (48:42):
She knows she's doing poorly, and so she's playing these
plittal games. I don't have time for political games. I've
got peoples whose lives are on the line. I've got
people whose homes and their possessions are on the line,
and we are focused one hundred percent on that mission.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
I'm not worry about playing her political games.

Speaker 8 (49:02):
And so she is being selfish by trying to blunder
into this when we're working just fine.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Oh my god, listen again, zero political instincts on behalf
of Kamala Harris, total complete moron, and so she created
all of this right out of whole cloth by politicizing
what will be a natural disaster. DeSantis comes in a
few hours later, completely bodies her. And now Kamala is

(49:33):
on the view, which I mean, spend ten minutes watching
the view and your IQ will diminish by ten points
maybe more. So, be very careful if you actually have
to watch the view. But she's answering questions on the
view in a friendly environment about this and completely shooting
herself in the foot. Now'll explain why in a second.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
But listen now, he said this morning, you've never called
regarding any of the storms Florida's had since you've been
vice president until apparently now and called political.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
What's your response to that.

Speaker 8 (50:02):
In fact, she's been vice president for three and a
half years. I've dealt with a number of storms under
this administration.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
She has never.

Speaker 8 (50:09):
Contributed anything to any of these efforts. And so what
I think is selfish trying to blunder into this.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
No.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
Well, first of all, I have called and talked with
in the course of this crisis, this most recent crisis,
Democrat and Republican governors called taken the call, answered the call,
had a conversation. So obviously this is not an issue
that is about partisanship or politics for certain leaders, but

(50:40):
maybe is for others.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Oh my god, she admits in the interview, and she's
so stupid that I don't even think she realizes it.
But she admits in the interview exactly what DeSantis said.
That she's not called Ron DeSantis during a single storm
or the other governor during a single storm for the
last three years while she was vice president. She admits

(51:05):
it on the view in a friendly interview format, and
not just that, as if that's not bad enough. Remember
my theory of how I think that Biden Kamala shanked Biden,
and I think that Biden is trying to shank Kamala.
I think Biden wants Kamada to lose. Remember when I
said that a couple of days ago. So Kamala is
supposed to be out there doing media and she's on

(51:29):
the View, and Biden decides to hold a press conference.
The guy held his first press conference a couple of
days ago at the exact sime time that Kamala was doing,
like a rally in Michigan. He hadn't done a press
conference in like fifteen hundred days. So now Kamala ventures
out onto the out, onto the view, desperate to get
more press, and then Biden does a press conference at

(51:52):
that exact same time, effectively offering counterprogramming and not just counterprogramming.
He compliments this, He compliments the Santis during the actual pressor.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
The governor of Florida has been cooperative.

Speaker 9 (52:18):
He says he's gotten all that he needs, and talked
to him again yesterday and I said, I said, no,
you're doing a great job. Is being all being done? Well,
we thank you for it. And I literally gave my
personal phone number to call.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
There was a rough start in some.

Speaker 9 (52:36):
Places, but every governor, every governor from Florida to North
Carolina has been fully cooperative and supportive and acknowledged what
this team is doing. And they're doing an incredible job.
But we got a lot more than just.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
So. So Biden, while Kamala is on the View, says
that Ron DeSantis is doing a great job, while completely
obliterating all the horrible things that Kamala said about Rod DeSantis.
I'm telling you Biden wants her to lose and again,

(53:16):
as if you need more proof that Kamala is just
one of the dumbest people on the face of the planet.
Her whole campaign message, her whole campaign message, her brand,
a new way forward. Remember when she first got into
the race and I said, mark that down, a new
way forward. That's gonna be exactly what her campaign brand is. Well, yours, truly,

(53:37):
we battle crew, we were right about that. It's her
whole campaign a new way forward. In other words, I'm
detaching myself from Biden. I'm leaving Biden in the rear view.
So it stands to reason anyone with a shred of
common sense knows that's that everyone that's working on her

(54:02):
campaign does not want to be tethered to the sinking
ship that is Joe Biden. That's the whole reason why
the Democrat Party shanked him in the first place. Kamala
Harris on the view friendly media format says this again, Honestly,
she's stupid, But I'm shocked at this level of stupidity.

Speaker 7 (54:20):
Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
President Biden during the past four years. There is not
a thing that comes to mind in terms of and
I've been a part of most of the decisions that
have had impact.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Cut it. I'm Donald Trump and I approved this message.
I mean, just cut the ad, get it out there,
run it on TV. For thirty straight days. Biden was
tanking in the polling because the American people did not
like Joe Biden. They don't like his policies. She had
an opportunity to distance herself from him. She just tethered
herself to a sinking ship. The entire reason that the

(55:00):
Democrats got rid of him in the first place. This
is why the Democrats are trying to hide her, and
this is why I told you that. Look with some candidates,
and I work with a lot of candidates, and that
includes incumbents in the House and the Senate. I tell
them to be themselves, be authentic. Some candidates, some incumbents

(55:22):
are amazing. The more they speak, the more they rally
people to their cause, even not even talking about Republicans.
Barack Obama was one of those people. He's a radical, divisive,
terrible president, did a lot of damage to this country.
But he faked a good game and he was charismatic.
He was cool. Anytime he spoke, he rallied people to

(55:44):
her cause, to his cause. Some candidates. Some incumbents have
the opposite problem, where the more they speak, the less
popular they get. The more they speak a society gets
Kamala Harris is one of those candidates. She is just

(56:06):
intergalactic level stupid. Before we leave today, I've got to
play you a couple of these sixty minutes segment clips again.
Absolute disaster for one of the dumbest political candidates to
ever grace the top of the ticket in the history
of the world. Okay, Kamala sixty minutes, dumbest candidate in

(56:26):
the history of our country to evergrace the top of
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her answers were just not pretty.

Speaker 10 (57:31):
Let me tell you what your critics and the columnists say.

Speaker 7 (57:35):
Okay, they say.

Speaker 10 (57:36):
The reason so many voters don't know you is that
you have changed your position on so many things. You
were against fracking, now you're for it. You supported looser
immigration policies, now you're tightening them up. You were for
medicare for all, now you're not. So many that people

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don't truly know what you believe or or what you
stand for.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
And I know you've heard that.

Speaker 7 (58:03):
In the last four years, I have been Vice president
of the United States, and I have been traveling our country,
and I have been listening to folks and seeking what
is possible in terms of common ground. I believe in
building consensus.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
We are diverse people geographically, regionally, in terms of where
we are in our backgrounds, and what the American people
do want is that we have leaders who can build
consensus where we can figure out compromise and understand it's
not a bad thing as long as you don't compromise.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Your values.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
To find common sense solutions. And that has been my approach.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Hey, Kamala, people don't trust you because you flip flop
on every issue in order to win an election. Kamala's response,
I travel a lot. Our nation is diverse, and that
is my response. Worst political candidate in the history of

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our country. The more she speaks, the less popular she'll get. Look,
this dude that interviewed her last night actually did a
pretty good job. Listened to her response on shanking Biden.

Speaker 10 (59:16):
Was democracy best served by President Biden stepping down and
basically handing you a nomination. He didn't have to go
through a primary process, you didn't have to fight off
other contenders. That's not really the way our system was
intended to work.

Speaker 7 (59:35):
President Biden made a decision that I think history is
going to show is rare among leaders, which was to
put country before self. And I am proud to have
earned the support of the vast majority of delegates and

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to have been elected the Democratic nomine I am proud
to have received the endorsement of leaders around this country
from every background and walk of life to fight in
this election over the next month for our democracy.

Speaker 10 (01:00:17):
But I think this truncated process is why people think
or say they don't really know who you are.

Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
Look, I've been in this race for seventy days.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Oh my god, it's an election.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
Bill, and I take it seriously that I have to
earn everyone's vote. This is an election for president of
the United States. No one should be able to take
for granted that they can just declare themselves a candidate
and automatically receive support.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
You have to earn it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
She's never received a single vote in the primary. She
got her ass kicked before there was a single because
she withdrew from the twenty twenty primary before they cast
a single vote in any of the caucuses. These people
have no internal barometer. She is not a gifted candidate.

(01:01:14):
I am telling you people like Joe Biden definitely wanted
to lose as revenge for shanking him. But Jos Shapiro,
Governor of Pennsylvania, Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan, Gavin Newsom,
Governor of California. They all want this woman to lose.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
They don't want to have to wait eight years to
run for president. It's much easier for them to wait
four years with Trump and then arrive on the scene
like a conquering hero, saying that they're gonna save the
nation from Trump. Bank on it. The Democrats hate her,
they despise her, and they see twenty twenty four as
a way to rid her from the body politic or

(01:01:54):
of America, rid her from American political life. Forever my theory,
and I'm sticking to it as always. Folks. Okay, we're
over an hour. Thank you all for joining us. I
hope you enjoyed Denesh D'Souza. I love that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
I love his.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Films vindicating Trump. Go watch it, Go read the Companion
Piece book. This dude is smart. That documentary, that movie
it is, it's funny, it's really good. I think you
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