October 9, 2024 • 24 mins
In the episode where Buck Sexton is joined by Wade Stotts. They discuss the challenges facing Kamala Harris and her campaign, suggesting it is in a state of quiet panic as it struggles to resonate with voters. Buck and Wade contrast Donald Trump's rally attendance and popularity with Harris's media appearances. They reflect on the shifting political landscape, emphasizing Trump's appeal to disillusioned voters and the politicization of recent events like natural disasters and mass shootings. As they look toward the upcoming election, they emphasize Pennsylvania as a battleground state and express skepticism about Harris's ability to connect with working-class voters, questioning who truly holds power in the Biden administration and how Biden's public appearances might undermine her campaign efforts.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey guys, welcome to the Buck Brief. Very excited first
time on the program. Wade Stots is here. He is
a host of The Wade Show with Wade. He is
a thought leader, which I am excited about, by the way.
I appreciate that in your bio, and he's a thoughtful guy.
We're so much week. We could talk about this week
going on right now. I wanted to throw out to you.
(00:42):
I think the Kamala campaign is in a quiet panic.
They're not quiet quitting, but they're quiet panicking. What do
you think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Think it's This week has certainly been a crazy one
for them. They're the just the display that we saw
at the Trump rally, with the richest man in the
world jumping around like a you know, toddler at Disneyland
and one hundred thousand people out there watching It's It's
been actually a pretty wild thing to watch these real
people gathering at real places to be excited about Trump,
(01:14):
whereas we have Kamala showing up on this sort of
like skanky podcast, and also and also The Late Show
with Stephen Colbert, which is kind of its own skanky podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
At this point, you know, I think he doesn't even
think what he does is funny anymore. I think I
think the cole Beart Show is at a point like
it's it's sad. You know, he's a little bit like
like the stripper who knows she shouldn't be doing it anymore,
but like she needs the money.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, when Black Velvet comes on, yeah he has to
come out. Yeah, yeah, it really it's it's a bizarre
thing to watch a guy. I mean, I think he's
got some talented writers. I think he's got quite a
bit of comedic talent. But yeah, I can't imagine that
he like him from thirty years ago, would be proud
to watch his show every single night.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
But yeah, he was, I will always been. I thought
he was kind of funny back in the day when
he did I mean I used to. I actually thought
it was funnier than The Daily Show for a while
at John Stewart's peak, when he was doing his sort
of O'Reilly esque but I actually thought that was pretty
And I'm I was very right wing then.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I'm very right wing.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Now, I thought it was pretty funny, but unfortunately it's
just gotten kind of sad. But speaking of sad, I
mean the the Kamala campaign at this point, I well, actually,
if we're gonna talk sad, Tim Walls, I also think
that they've reached a point where they realize this guy,
this guy is kind of a nothing burger, like he's
he's actually so ineffectual and lame that it's hard for
(02:36):
me to get too worked up about him even being
in the second most important world. I guess actually vice
president's not that you know what I mean, like a
hardy from the presidency, right, But yeah, no, it's not
working out for him either.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, he's yeah, he'll show up on these shows now
trying to you know, sort of look in control, as
compared to what he looked like in the debate, which
was definitely, uh, you know, a different kind of display.
But I thought in the vice presidential debate, I thought
that JD did a good job of like using Tim
Walls's nice guy thing against him. So that's at a
certain point, I think jd uh just kept saying, oh,
(03:09):
I agree with you on this, and I think we
agree on these points. And the sort of nice midwestern
guy had to say, oh, yeah, we're actually friends. Everything's
really good, and then forgot to attack him, and so
it was a it was a brilliant maneuver.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But yeah, I can't go ahead as I say, did
you have that moment that I think that I know
because I talked to your friends. A lot of people
did were like, what this This vice presidential debate is
so weird. It's like they're kind of being cordial, and
it's a lot like watching it was a high school debate,
would operate where you're supposed to not be mean to
your opponent.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Right, Yeah, Usually everybody after the debate is talking about
who won. And I think a lot of times the
things that people passed around after that one wasn't clips
or wasn't big dunks, but it was just these looks
that both of them gave the camera. It was it
was bizarre to see the interaction be mainly about screenshots. Uh.
And and also that Tim Wall said he was friends
with school shooters, so there was that That clip I
(04:01):
think was the only one I saw being passed around,
But otherwise it was just Tim Wall's just looking panicky
and and you know, JD looking at the camera.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Did you see SNL actually made fun of that one
moment or that that thing and really poking I think
at the the Kamala decision to go with Walls over Shapiro, well,
I think if they, if they lose, be one of
the big Monday morning quarterbacking sessions of the whole campaign
(04:28):
and SNL, which is very left wing. Fun fact, the
Weekend Update guy was my classmate and on the debate
team with me in high school, so there's that, Oh cool, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I haven't talked since we're in high school, but you know,
but yeah, the SNL is very left wing. But they
even made fun of Walls just being like not getting
it done. But also the school shooter comment was so weird.
(04:51):
People misspeak, but usually you would correct something like that,
and he just does not have hurt himself at all.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I think he did several days of debate coaching
and nobody sort of flagged that line, which is bizarre.
But yeah, SNL is such a fascinating thing because I think,
like most recently on Saturday, they had Nate Pergatsey, who's
a sort of he doesn't talk about politics a lot,
He's not but he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Feel like his stuff. Do you like his stuff? I
actually think he's really funny, and I appreciate that I
could watch him with my parents and not feel like
I have to fast forward.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You know. Yeah, absolutely, he's clean. He's also just kind
of a like, he's a Nashville guy and is building
his own kind of comedy network. But I think SNL
kind of knows that it's lost a lot of normal folks,
and then once in a while they bring on a
guy like Natepergatzy or like Shane Gillis who just appeals to,
you know, people who don't have bad relationships with their
(05:40):
dads or like you can tell that Shane Gillis and
Natepergatzy at least have Republican dads or at least have
that kind of thing and don't hate them, which is great.
It's a refreshing thing to see on TV. But at
a certain level, he kind of lose people after something
like the you know what was it? Hillary? Somebody dresses
Hillary Clinton singing singing some sad song after she lost.
So I don't know if they can get people back,
(06:02):
but at least they're trying.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think they had somebody actually sing a song. It
was like a mournful allid with a big photo of Hillary.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Do you remember, you know?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I think that was what do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah? So if I remember right, I think yeah it was.
It was somebody singing like Halleejah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Like Jeff Buckley.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
This is like when you break up with your girlfriend
in high school and you have no context for like
how you remember in five years or whatever. That's the
kind of music that they put on.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, right, Yeah, what was supposed to be this punk
rock late night TV show where everybody gets everybody's a target. Yeah,
everybody had to have a morning moment like there was
some kind of national tragedy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I have to say the big regret I have of
the twenty sixteen election is I lived at that time
in Manhattan, but within a within half a mile of
the would be Hillary celebration headquarters, and I was so
busy being like I cannot believe Trump won that I
didn't think, oh my gosh, I should have gone there
(07:05):
and just been joy riding in the in the wreckage
left by all the all the sad shardona.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Drinking that was going on. That you had to look
like the look at the pictures. Just like the rest
of us, there's.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Plenty of let's you know, we got, we got, we
got a few, a few things here on the immediate horizon.
Uh one is uh you're going to be seeing I
think the early voting coming in and also uh, from
what we can see right now in Pennsylvania, I think
that that's going to be one of the areas of
real I think when people look at this election, they'll
(07:38):
see that it was Kamala's lack of connectivity with white
working class voters in particular. That is probably the the
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dot com. Wade, what are the positive trends you're seeing
in the election and what are the things that worry
you to just in terms of winning where we have
to win, not just the presidency, any Senate races you're
concerned about, Like, give me your battlefield view of election
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, well, you mentioned Pennsylvania, and I think that's certainly,
you know, a Keystone state. But the wild thing is
that this moment that Trump couldn't have choreographed, this moment
that happened back in jo where he was almost killed,
happened in Pennsylvania, and happened in a place that was
already a battleground and then became even more so. But then, yeah,
(09:19):
like you mentioned earlier, not picking Shapiro, then Kamala doesn't
get to get all of the Pennsylvania draw that she
might have gotten there before. What I think is fascinating
is on the ground, I think we're seeing a lot
of every sign points to Trump winning, at least if
it were a fair fight, if there weren't thumbs on
(09:41):
the scales all over the place. But I think that
the media has lost enough credibility that now folks are
not waiting around to see what they have to say.
If people four years ago or eight years ago had
a certain picture of Donald Trump, I think that there
are a lot of people who don't have that picture anymore,
mainly because they've lost trust in institutions. And I think
(10:03):
the storms that have happened recently and the horrible ways
that people have been treated and left behind have certainly
been part of that. And I understand why folks would
be nervous about maybe calling it politicizing a storm or
something like that, but that's essentially what has already happened,
and the way that the left has treated this. I
think David Axelrod and Politico have put out all the
(10:25):
thought pieces about how this storm could swing the election
this way or that way. It's it's one of those
just tragic things that they're definitely not working hard to
get these rural southern states cleaned up by election day,
but they'll probably get them cleaned up by tax day
at least I can assume.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So, yeah, I think that in the aftermath. You know,
it's been a few years now, but the lessons learned
from from the COVID pandemic. One of them for me
is that this whenever a Democrat says, don't politicize fill
in the blanket's in bad faith, we'll politicize everything. The
politicize a school shooting within minutes and say things that indicate,
(11:03):
you know, we don't even know, you know, how many,
how many dead there are, what gun was used, or anything,
they'll politicize that right away. With COVID, they take a
mass pandemic and all of a sudden, they're telling everybody, oh,
you know, Trump is horrible, and we're all going to
I mean, I remember this.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Do you remember Trump?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Trump is going to be the reason that we all
die from COVID. I mean, it's completely insane. And so
now there's a storm, a hurricane that and by the way,
there's another one coming as you and I talk, right,
but there's a storm Heleene that already hit. And their
response to us is like, oh, yeah, we're doing a lot.
Shut up, you're lying about it. Well, why are all
these people who live in these areas so upset about it?
(11:40):
Like you're calling them liars? The answer is yes. By
the Morning Joe, fresh off of the plane from Nantucket,
wants the people of western North Carolina to know they're lying.
That's what Morning Joe is saying, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And the Kamala campaign always wants to keep things in
airy fairy world, like what we're going to do in
the future, and here's our plan, here are all the
things that we're going to do. But they're both running
on records, and so what's happening right now is the
Kamala's record is still being written, and people don't like that.
People don't like the way that it's happening. And everybody
wants to talk about what Trump, what Trump is going
to do, what Trump is going to do in the future,
(12:13):
just like they did back in twenty twenty, but he
was the president at the time, and he was the
president for four years. We can point to his record,
and we can point to Kamala's record, and rather than
sitting around talking about what might happen or sort of
theoretical hypothetical situations, they're both having to deal with their
own behavior. And Trump has a great record to go on.
(12:34):
Kamala just doesn't. People aren't happy right now, and she
can point to that and say I'm going to fix it.
But you know she is in power right now.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
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asked who the president is? I want you to answer that.
And also, just what do you think when Biden has
sort of appeared recently a few times in the media,
It's like, oh, yeah, I guess that guy's still the president.
I feel like the Kamala campaign has got to be
just just streaming into the pillow, like they don't want
anyone to know, but they must be so angry that
this guy is showing up and clowning up everything.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, I think it's We're in an odd time where
I don't think that the presidency as such really even exists.
It's kind of this office that doesn't really people aren't
even though people might still have some kind of residual
respect for the office, the office itself isn't what it
used to be. And what I think the regime right
(14:32):
now is uncomfortable with is that Trump seems like he
actually wants to be president, rather than Kamala over here,
who wants to be whatever Biden is, which is kind
of a figurehead who goes out and talks once in
a while. And so who's the president? I mean, as
far as the presidency exists, I guess it's Joe Biden.
But that says more about the office itself. I think
the office has been demeaned so much that it doesn't
(14:55):
really count unless somebody like Trump gets in, and then
whatever he does will be I guess what again, running
for the actual office, like it says on the paper,
rather than running for what it's become.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Well, have you even heard anyone try to make the
argument or explain how it is that Biden is not
of sufficient mind to keep running for reelection and therefore
be president in the next year, but is of sufficient
mind to be president right now? You know what I mean? Right, Like,
(15:28):
does have the cognition, he can have the new codes
today and for the next few months, but we got
to take him away by January.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
How does that work? Right? Yeah, we had this bizarre
time where Biden quit and then passed passed the torch
to Kamala, but didn't ever say why. It didn't explicitly
say why he's He just said like, well, it's time.
It's just it's just time to change. Yeah. I don't
think there is an argument. There's there's a certain level
at which he knows that he's been pressed pushed out.
(15:56):
Everybody around him knows that he's been pushed out, but
nobody can nobody has permission to say why. Everybody everybody
knows it was because he was embarrassed in the debate.
And then I think they might have held on to
him after the debate if it weren't for the attempted
assassination on Trump, because that made Trump look really strong
as opposed to Biden, who had just been embarrassed, and
(16:18):
the media at that point they turned all of their
negative energy that they'd been associating with Trump onto Biden,
and so the media went after Trump chased him out
of office and with the help of obviously Nancy Pelosi
and the other folks there. But then after that they've
they're stuck now with Kamala. I think I think they
delayed as much as they could picking Kamala, but they
(16:39):
it was the best option that they thought they had.
And yeah, I can't imagine that they're pleased with the
position they put themselves in.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Isn't it interesting that there's a chance here, Wade? I mean,
I heard you know, your analysis aligns with how I
see it in Pennsylvania. There's a chance that a that
the poor Kamala VP pick by Joe Biden was one
of the worst decisions because that led to this no
primary switch and the whole thing is a mess, and
(17:09):
now Aamaa may not actually win because of her poor
pick as a VP, Right, I mean, two VP picks
that you would like. Usually VP doesn't No one even
remembers who was VP in the nineties or the eighties, right, Like,
it's not, you know, wasn't the guy you know, Potato?
And it's like the media attacking the Republican of course,
but you shoot, what I mean a bad Joe Biden
VP pick and a bad Kamala Harris VP pick could
(17:31):
be like a cascading failure.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, well, it certainly is at a certain level where
Obama had to pick somebody who could sort of sit
in the background and look nice or at least, you know,
smile for smile for the camera. Biden had to pick
somebody that was worse than he was, and then Kamala
has to pick somebody who's worse than she is. It
doesn't look good for the future of the Democratic Party
if everybody's just constantly scaling down trying to find trying
(17:56):
to find somebody who's worse than they are. But yeah,
definitely worse in front of the camera, as we as
we saw with Tim Malls. It's a nasty situation they've
gotten the men selves into. But again, that also assumes
that the entire office that they're running for is the
actual office that's written down on paper in the Constitution,
that this is what the president and vice president they're
going to do. At some level, they're not even really
(18:18):
good figureheads. It would be back in the day the
Democrats had a decent figurehead like Obama and a decent
figurehead like Bill Clinton, but now their figureheads aren't even
holding up to scrutiny.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean, how is it? This is almost like this
is like a metaphysical or we're getting to like the
existential here country of I don't know. I mean, how
many illegals We could do a whole podcast on that.
It's probably I think there's about twenty five million illegals
in the country, but could be low whatever. There's tens
of millions for sure, because we had eleven million plus
at least about ten million under Biden, So call it
(18:52):
twenty five or thirty million, but three hundred and fifty
million people in the country roughly, and we have Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris. Really like this, this is where
we are? How did this happen?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Right? Yeah, it's at a certain level, the like the
deureacratization of the whole office is such that the person
who's on the front of the ticket just needs to
be have enough name recognition to get the check mark
next to their name, and so we kind of all
know that anybody who's voting for Kamala Harris and voting
for Joe Biden is basically voting for the status quo,
(19:24):
voting for how the direction things have been going for
a very long time. Even at some level, while Trump
was in office, with all the deep state fighting against him,
the Washington tried as hard as they could to push
him out. Eventually they ended up succeeding. But that's essentially
what Kamala represents. Kamala represents voting for the thing that
we the way things have been going for a long time,
(19:44):
and anybody who's sped up with that is kind of
by default over on the Trump team. And Trump represents
at some level the desire that people have out in
the country to change that, to have something other than
the status quo. And this coalition of people that have
gathered behind Trump are varied. They have lots of different priorities,
they have even differences with Donald Trump himself, but the
(20:07):
thing they have in common is I don't like the
way things are going, and I don't and I will
not continue to just vote for the status quo, for
the for the blog, for the swamp in Washington, and
vote voting for the system. And at some level people
want disruption and they've been able to hang some of
that hope on Trump. Whether Trump's worthy of that or not.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I want to come in and ask you about the
Elon factor in all of this here. And you know
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we've talked about he jumps around. He's very excited. He's
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you think that that Elon? I see one thing I
love about him, not only to see the richest guy
in the world, give or take, and he's doing all
these amazing companies and all this cool stuff. He is
so red pilled and also kind of a class trader
to the Silicon Valley billionaire oligarchy, which I just love.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, he's this guy. What I love about the teaming
up of Elon and Trump is that they're both kind
of like that. They're guys who kind of came up
within the established regime or came up within the established system,
and have decided that they're not satisfying with that, and
so the money and the influence that they've built up
through that system is now being used against it, so
(22:20):
that even in the response to the most recent hurricane,
what we've seen is two guys who are private citizens
who have for at least shown a little bit more
legitimacy than the reigning government. So they've been able to
help out where the people who are supposed to the
people who again on paper, are supposed to be helping out,
are not. And so those two guys paired up is
(22:43):
kind of a dream team. And I think I think
I think some folks will have some think that Elon's
being cynical and that he thinks, oh, maybe I can
steer Trump, Maybe maybe I can hop on this thing
that's already running and winning, and so that I can
join up and I'll be in his favor once he wins.
But what I think is happening is he actually is
(23:04):
so like, you don't jump up and down like that
on the stage. You don't change your profile picture to
you wearing darknaga had. He has no nothing to gain
reputationally from this. He's made plenty of decisions that at
some level don't make sense on paper and don't make
sense with financially. He's making a bet at some level
that Trump's gonna win, that it's gonna be good for
the country. And I think it's it's a vision that
(23:27):
a lot of folks who just who can get behind,
and folks who are already on Trump's side and folks
who just you know, think that Elon's a cool guy
and we are all going to go live on Mars.
Like again, that coalition is a bizarre thing that's happening.
But all of them again dissatisfied with what we have now.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I mean, look, I used to think electric cars
were kind of absurd, at least in the early days,
with like Prius, which was in the right, which is
maybe the ugliest car I think ever designed in history. Yeah,
and it's funny because you know, they had these other cars.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
This is true story.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Actually, in the early days of evs, the Prius, even
though everyone thought it was ugly, because it was all
about showing people that you drive in ev it was
far more popular than the cars that look like normal cars,
like the normal version of the car, but we're electric, right,
So it was true. It was like virtue signaling via marketing.
That was the whole thing. Yeah. But now with the Tesla,
I'm like, this stuff is actually cool, Like I might
(24:20):
get one. I don't know, I think it'd be fun
to someone in my neighborhood drives a I'm not kidding
pink cyber truck, which I was like, that's that's bold,
it's bright pink, and it's the cyber truck.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Wait, where can people wait? Wait, I've seen your content.
That's how I found you. So you're doing great stuff.
Where can people go to check out the Wade Show?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, I'm on YouTube. The Wade Show with Wade is
the name of the show, and I'm also on x
at Wade Stats to be a d E S t
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up in Idaho and we that's where we have the podcast.
We do interviews and things like that. It's a fun
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Speaker 2 (25:01):
Go check it out. Wait, thanks for being with us, man,
good to see.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey guys, welcome to the Buck Brief. Very excited first
time on the program. Wade Stots is here. He is
a host of The Wade Show with Wade. He is
a thought leader, which I am excited about, by the way.
I appreciate that in your bio, and he's a thoughtful guy.
We're so much week. We could talk about this week
going on right now. I wanted to throw out to you.
(00:42):
I think the Kamala campaign is in a quiet panic.
They're not quiet quitting, but they're quiet panicking. What do
you think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Think it's This week has certainly been a crazy one
for them. They're the just the display that we saw
at the Trump rally, with the richest man in the
world jumping around like a you know, toddler at Disneyland
and one hundred thousand people out there watching It's It's
been actually a pretty wild thing to watch these real
people gathering at real places to be excited about Trump,
(01:14):
whereas we have Kamala showing up on this sort of
like skanky podcast, and also and also The Late Show
with Stephen Colbert, which is kind of its own skanky podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
At this point, you know, I think he doesn't even
think what he does is funny anymore. I think I
think the cole Beart Show is at a point like
it's it's sad. You know, he's a little bit like
like the stripper who knows she shouldn't be doing it anymore,
but like she needs the money.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, when Black Velvet comes on, yeah he has to
come out. Yeah, yeah, it really it's it's a bizarre
thing to watch a guy. I mean, I think he's
got some talented writers. I think he's got quite a
bit of comedic talent. But yeah, I can't imagine that
he like him from thirty years ago, would be proud
to watch his show every single night.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
But yeah, he was, I will always been. I thought
he was kind of funny back in the day when
he did I mean I used to. I actually thought
it was funnier than The Daily Show for a while
at John Stewart's peak, when he was doing his sort
of O'Reilly esque but I actually thought that was pretty
And I'm I was very right wing then.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I'm very right wing.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Now, I thought it was pretty funny, but unfortunately it's
just gotten kind of sad. But speaking of sad, I
mean the the Kamala campaign at this point, I well, actually,
if we're gonna talk sad, Tim Walls, I also think
that they've reached a point where they realize this guy,
this guy is kind of a nothing burger, like he's
he's actually so ineffectual and lame that it's hard for
(02:36):
me to get too worked up about him even being
in the second most important world. I guess actually vice
president's not that you know what I mean, like a
hardy from the presidency, right, But yeah, no, it's not
working out for him either.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, he's yeah, he'll show up on these shows now
trying to you know, sort of look in control, as
compared to what he looked like in the debate, which
was definitely, uh, you know, a different kind of display.
But I thought in the vice presidential debate, I thought
that JD did a good job of like using Tim
Walls's nice guy thing against him. So that's at a
certain point, I think jd uh just kept saying, oh,
(03:09):
I agree with you on this, and I think we
agree on these points. And the sort of nice midwestern
guy had to say, oh, yeah, we're actually friends. Everything's
really good, and then forgot to attack him, and so
it was a it was a brilliant maneuver.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But yeah, I can't go ahead as I say, did
you have that moment that I think that I know
because I talked to your friends. A lot of people
did were like, what this This vice presidential debate is
so weird. It's like they're kind of being cordial, and
it's a lot like watching it was a high school debate,
would operate where you're supposed to not be mean to
your opponent.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Right, Yeah, Usually everybody after the debate is talking about
who won. And I think a lot of times the
things that people passed around after that one wasn't clips
or wasn't big dunks, but it was just these looks
that both of them gave the camera. It was it
was bizarre to see the interaction be mainly about screenshots. Uh.
And and also that Tim Wall said he was friends
with school shooters, so there was that That clip I
(04:01):
think was the only one I saw being passed around,
But otherwise it was just Tim Wall's just looking panicky
and and you know, JD looking at the camera.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Did you see SNL actually made fun of that one
moment or that that thing and really poking I think
at the the Kamala decision to go with Walls over Shapiro, well,
I think if they, if they lose, be one of
the big Monday morning quarterbacking sessions of the whole campaign
(04:28):
and SNL, which is very left wing. Fun fact, the
Weekend Update guy was my classmate and on the debate
team with me in high school, so there's that, Oh cool, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I haven't talked since we're in high school, but you know,
but yeah, the SNL is very left wing. But they
even made fun of Walls just being like not getting
it done. But also the school shooter comment was so weird.
(04:51):
People misspeak, but usually you would correct something like that,
and he just does not have hurt himself at all.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I think he did several days of debate coaching
and nobody sort of flagged that line, which is bizarre.
But yeah, SNL is such a fascinating thing because I think,
like most recently on Saturday, they had Nate Pergatsey, who's
a sort of he doesn't talk about politics a lot,
He's not but he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Feel like his stuff. Do you like his stuff? I
actually think he's really funny, and I appreciate that I
could watch him with my parents and not feel like
I have to fast forward.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You know. Yeah, absolutely, he's clean. He's also just kind
of a like, he's a Nashville guy and is building
his own kind of comedy network. But I think SNL
kind of knows that it's lost a lot of normal folks,
and then once in a while they bring on a
guy like Natepergatzy or like Shane Gillis who just appeals to,
you know, people who don't have bad relationships with their
(05:40):
dads or like you can tell that Shane Gillis and
Natepergatzy at least have Republican dads or at least have
that kind of thing and don't hate them, which is great.
It's a refreshing thing to see on TV. But at
a certain level, he kind of lose people after something
like the you know what was it? Hillary? Somebody dresses
Hillary Clinton singing singing some sad song after she lost.
So I don't know if they can get people back,
(06:02):
but at least they're trying.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think they had somebody actually sing a song. It
was like a mournful allid with a big photo of Hillary.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Do you remember, you know?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I think that was what do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah? So if I remember right, I think yeah it was.
It was somebody singing like Halleejah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Like Jeff Buckley.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
This is like when you break up with your girlfriend
in high school and you have no context for like
how you remember in five years or whatever. That's the
kind of music that they put on.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, right, Yeah, what was supposed to be this punk
rock late night TV show where everybody gets everybody's a target. Yeah,
everybody had to have a morning moment like there was
some kind of national tragedy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I have to say the big regret I have of
the twenty sixteen election is I lived at that time
in Manhattan, but within a within half a mile of
the would be Hillary celebration headquarters, and I was so
busy being like I cannot believe Trump won that I
didn't think, oh my gosh, I should have gone there
(07:05):
and just been joy riding in the in the wreckage
left by all the all the sad shardona.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Drinking that was going on. That you had to look
like the look at the pictures. Just like the rest
of us, there's.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Plenty of let's you know, we got, we got, we
got a few, a few things here on the immediate horizon.
Uh one is uh you're going to be seeing I
think the early voting coming in and also uh, from
what we can see right now in Pennsylvania, I think
that that's going to be one of the areas of
real I think when people look at this election, they'll
(07:38):
see that it was Kamala's lack of connectivity with white
working class voters in particular. That is probably the the
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dot com. Wade, what are the positive trends you're seeing
in the election and what are the things that worry
you to just in terms of winning where we have
to win, not just the presidency, any Senate races you're
concerned about, Like, give me your battlefield view of election
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, well, you mentioned Pennsylvania, and I think that's certainly,
you know, a Keystone state. But the wild thing is
that this moment that Trump couldn't have choreographed, this moment
that happened back in jo where he was almost killed,
happened in Pennsylvania, and happened in a place that was
already a battleground and then became even more so. But then, yeah,
(09:19):
like you mentioned earlier, not picking Shapiro, then Kamala doesn't
get to get all of the Pennsylvania draw that she
might have gotten there before. What I think is fascinating
is on the ground, I think we're seeing a lot
of every sign points to Trump winning, at least if
it were a fair fight, if there weren't thumbs on
(09:41):
the scales all over the place. But I think that
the media has lost enough credibility that now folks are
not waiting around to see what they have to say.
If people four years ago or eight years ago had
a certain picture of Donald Trump, I think that there
are a lot of people who don't have that picture anymore,
mainly because they've lost trust in institutions. And I think
(10:03):
the storms that have happened recently and the horrible ways
that people have been treated and left behind have certainly
been part of that. And I understand why folks would
be nervous about maybe calling it politicizing a storm or
something like that, but that's essentially what has already happened,
and the way that the left has treated this. I
think David Axelrod and Politico have put out all the
(10:25):
thought pieces about how this storm could swing the election
this way or that way. It's it's one of those
just tragic things that they're definitely not working hard to
get these rural southern states cleaned up by election day,
but they'll probably get them cleaned up by tax day
at least I can assume.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So, yeah, I think that in the aftermath. You know,
it's been a few years now, but the lessons learned
from from the COVID pandemic. One of them for me
is that this whenever a Democrat says, don't politicize fill
in the blanket's in bad faith, we'll politicize everything. The
politicize a school shooting within minutes and say things that indicate,
(11:03):
you know, we don't even know, you know, how many,
how many dead there are, what gun was used, or anything,
they'll politicize that right away. With COVID, they take a
mass pandemic and all of a sudden, they're telling everybody, oh,
you know, Trump is horrible, and we're all going to
I mean, I remember this.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Do you remember Trump?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Trump is going to be the reason that we all
die from COVID. I mean, it's completely insane. And so
now there's a storm, a hurricane that and by the way,
there's another one coming as you and I talk, right,
but there's a storm Heleene that already hit. And their
response to us is like, oh, yeah, we're doing a lot.
Shut up, you're lying about it. Well, why are all
these people who live in these areas so upset about it?
(11:40):
Like you're calling them liars? The answer is yes. By
the Morning Joe, fresh off of the plane from Nantucket,
wants the people of western North Carolina to know they're lying.
That's what Morning Joe is saying, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And the Kamala campaign always wants to keep things in
airy fairy world, like what we're going to do in
the future, and here's our plan, here are all the
things that we're going to do. But they're both running
on records, and so what's happening right now is the
Kamala's record is still being written, and people don't like that.
People don't like the way that it's happening. And everybody
wants to talk about what Trump, what Trump is going
to do, what Trump is going to do in the future,
(12:13):
just like they did back in twenty twenty, but he
was the president at the time, and he was the
president for four years. We can point to his record,
and we can point to Kamala's record, and rather than
sitting around talking about what might happen or sort of
theoretical hypothetical situations, they're both having to deal with their
own behavior. And Trump has a great record to go on.
(12:34):
Kamala just doesn't. People aren't happy right now, and she
can point to that and say I'm going to fix it.
But you know she is in power right now.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I'm going to put a question out there that I
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asked who the president is? I want you to answer that.
And also, just what do you think when Biden has
sort of appeared recently a few times in the media,
It's like, oh, yeah, I guess that guy's still the president.
I feel like the Kamala campaign has got to be
just just streaming into the pillow, like they don't want
anyone to know, but they must be so angry that
this guy is showing up and clowning up everything.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, I think it's We're in an odd time where
I don't think that the presidency as such really even exists.
It's kind of this office that doesn't really people aren't
even though people might still have some kind of residual
respect for the office, the office itself isn't what it
used to be. And what I think the regime right
(14:32):
now is uncomfortable with is that Trump seems like he
actually wants to be president, rather than Kamala over here,
who wants to be whatever Biden is, which is kind
of a figurehead who goes out and talks once in
a while. And so who's the president? I mean, as
far as the presidency exists, I guess it's Joe Biden.
But that says more about the office itself. I think
the office has been demeaned so much that it doesn't
(14:55):
really count unless somebody like Trump gets in, and then
whatever he does will be I guess what again, running
for the actual office, like it says on the paper,
rather than running for what it's become.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Well, have you even heard anyone try to make the
argument or explain how it is that Biden is not
of sufficient mind to keep running for reelection and therefore
be president in the next year, but is of sufficient
mind to be president right now? You know what I mean? Right, Like,
(15:28):
does have the cognition, he can have the new codes
today and for the next few months, but we got
to take him away by January.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
How does that work? Right? Yeah, we had this bizarre
time where Biden quit and then passed passed the torch
to Kamala, but didn't ever say why. It didn't explicitly
say why he's He just said like, well, it's time.
It's just it's just time to change. Yeah. I don't
think there is an argument. There's there's a certain level
at which he knows that he's been pressed pushed out.
(15:56):
Everybody around him knows that he's been pushed out, but
nobody can nobody has permission to say why. Everybody everybody
knows it was because he was embarrassed in the debate.
And then I think they might have held on to
him after the debate if it weren't for the attempted
assassination on Trump, because that made Trump look really strong
as opposed to Biden, who had just been embarrassed, and
(16:18):
the media at that point they turned all of their
negative energy that they'd been associating with Trump onto Biden,
and so the media went after Trump chased him out
of office and with the help of obviously Nancy Pelosi
and the other folks there. But then after that they've
they're stuck now with Kamala. I think I think they
delayed as much as they could picking Kamala, but they
(16:39):
it was the best option that they thought they had.
And yeah, I can't imagine that they're pleased with the
position they put themselves in.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Isn't it interesting that there's a chance here, Wade? I mean,
I heard you know, your analysis aligns with how I
see it in Pennsylvania. There's a chance that a that
the poor Kamala VP pick by Joe Biden was one
of the worst decisions because that led to this no
primary switch and the whole thing is a mess, and
(17:09):
now Aamaa may not actually win because of her poor
pick as a VP, Right, I mean, two VP picks
that you would like. Usually VP doesn't No one even
remembers who was VP in the nineties or the eighties, right, Like,
it's not, you know, wasn't the guy you know, Potato?
And it's like the media attacking the Republican of course,
but you shoot, what I mean a bad Joe Biden
VP pick and a bad Kamala Harris VP pick could
(17:31):
be like a cascading failure.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, well, it certainly is at a certain level where
Obama had to pick somebody who could sort of sit
in the background and look nice or at least, you know,
smile for smile for the camera. Biden had to pick
somebody that was worse than he was, and then Kamala
has to pick somebody who's worse than she is. It
doesn't look good for the future of the Democratic Party
if everybody's just constantly scaling down trying to find trying
(17:56):
to find somebody who's worse than they are. But yeah,
definitely worse in front of the camera, as we as
we saw with Tim Malls. It's a nasty situation they've
gotten the men selves into. But again, that also assumes
that the entire office that they're running for is the
actual office that's written down on paper in the Constitution,
that this is what the president and vice president they're
going to do. At some level, they're not even really
(18:18):
good figureheads. It would be back in the day the
Democrats had a decent figurehead like Obama and a decent
figurehead like Bill Clinton, but now their figureheads aren't even
holding up to scrutiny.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean, how is it? This is almost like this
is like a metaphysical or we're getting to like the
existential here country of I don't know. I mean, how
many illegals We could do a whole podcast on that.
It's probably I think there's about twenty five million illegals
in the country, but could be low whatever. There's tens
of millions for sure, because we had eleven million plus
at least about ten million under Biden, So call it
(18:52):
twenty five or thirty million, but three hundred and fifty
million people in the country roughly, and we have Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris. Really like this, this is where
we are? How did this happen?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Right? Yeah, it's at a certain level, the like the
deureacratization of the whole office is such that the person
who's on the front of the ticket just needs to
be have enough name recognition to get the check mark
next to their name, and so we kind of all
know that anybody who's voting for Kamala Harris and voting
for Joe Biden is basically voting for the status quo,
(19:24):
voting for how the direction things have been going for
a very long time. Even at some level, while Trump
was in office, with all the deep state fighting against him,
the Washington tried as hard as they could to push
him out. Eventually they ended up succeeding. But that's essentially
what Kamala represents. Kamala represents voting for the thing that
we the way things have been going for a long time,
(19:44):
and anybody who's sped up with that is kind of
by default over on the Trump team. And Trump represents
at some level the desire that people have out in
the country to change that, to have something other than
the status quo. And this coalition of people that have
gathered behind Trump are varied. They have lots of different priorities,
they have even differences with Donald Trump himself, but the
(20:07):
thing they have in common is I don't like the
way things are going, and I don't and I will
not continue to just vote for the status quo, for
the for the blog, for the swamp in Washington, and
vote voting for the system. And at some level people
want disruption and they've been able to hang some of
that hope on Trump. Whether Trump's worthy of that or not.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I want to come in and ask you about the
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you think that that Elon? I see one thing I
love about him, not only to see the richest guy
in the world, give or take, and he's doing all
these amazing companies and all this cool stuff. He is
so red pilled and also kind of a class trader
to the Silicon Valley billionaire oligarchy, which I just love.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, he's this guy. What I love about the teaming
up of Elon and Trump is that they're both kind
of like that. They're guys who kind of came up
within the established regime or came up within the established system,
and have decided that they're not satisfying with that, and
so the money and the influence that they've built up
through that system is now being used against it, so
(22:20):
that even in the response to the most recent hurricane,
what we've seen is two guys who are private citizens
who have for at least shown a little bit more
legitimacy than the reigning government. So they've been able to
help out where the people who are supposed to the
people who again on paper, are supposed to be helping out,
are not. And so those two guys paired up is
(22:43):
kind of a dream team. And I think I think
I think some folks will have some think that Elon's
being cynical and that he thinks, oh, maybe I can
steer Trump, Maybe maybe I can hop on this thing
that's already running and winning, and so that I can
join up and I'll be in his favor once he wins.
But what I think is happening is he actually is
(23:04):
so like, you don't jump up and down like that
on the stage. You don't change your profile picture to
you wearing darknaga had. He has no nothing to gain
reputationally from this. He's made plenty of decisions that at
some level don't make sense on paper and don't make
sense with financially. He's making a bet at some level
that Trump's gonna win, that it's gonna be good for
the country. And I think it's it's a vision that
(23:27):
a lot of folks who just who can get behind,
and folks who are already on Trump's side and folks
who just you know, think that Elon's a cool guy
and we are all going to go live on Mars.
Like again, that coalition is a bizarre thing that's happening.
But all of them again dissatisfied with what we have now.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I mean, look, I used to think electric cars
were kind of absurd, at least in the early days,
with like Prius, which was in the right, which is
maybe the ugliest car I think ever designed in history. Yeah,
and it's funny because you know, they had these other cars.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
This is true story.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Actually, in the early days of evs, the Prius, even
though everyone thought it was ugly, because it was all
about showing people that you drive in ev it was
far more popular than the cars that look like normal cars,
like the normal version of the car, but we're electric, right,
So it was true. It was like virtue signaling via marketing.
That was the whole thing. Yeah. But now with the Tesla,
I'm like, this stuff is actually cool, Like I might
(24:20):
get one. I don't know, I think it'd be fun
to someone in my neighborhood drives a I'm not kidding
pink cyber truck, which I was like, that's that's bold,
it's bright pink, and it's the cyber truck.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Wait, where can people wait? Wait, I've seen your content.
That's how I found you. So you're doing great stuff.
Where can people go to check out the Wade Show?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, I'm on YouTube. The Wade Show with Wade is
the name of the show, and I'm also on x
at Wade Stats to be a d E S t
O T t S. I post my videos there and
then also I have a paywalled podcast on something called
Canon Plus. I work with a company called Canon Press
up in Idaho and we that's where we have the podcast.
We do interviews and things like that. It's a fun
(25:00):
place to be.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Go check it out. Wait, thanks for being with us, man,
good to see.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Thank you for having me.
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