October 12, 2024 • 36 mins
Kamala Harris falls apart under mild questioning on 60 Minutes. NYT poll shows Trump up 14 points in Florida. Bill Whitaker confronts Kamala on flip-flops, she answers with word salad. Harris tells The View she wouldn't do anything different than Biden, undermines her "change" argument. Biden compliments DeSantis. Would Dems have nominated Kamala in a primary?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome and everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now, and the big
stories we have for you. First off, I'm here in
South Florida. The hurricane Hurricane Milton that is approaching could
be one of the most devastating hurricanes to make landfall
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in decades. It is a frightening storm even for people
who have been through many hurricanes. Many of my fellow
Floridians and those who have been here many many years
longer than me are taking the approach that this is
the big one in a sense. Will give you the
latest on that. It comes while we still are watching
(00:46):
as a lot of volunteers, a lot of citizen saving
is going on here or saving by citizens everyday, Americans,
former military in the aftermath of Helene. So we're still
digging out of one and everyone's bracing here for impact
on another. We'll bring you the latest on that. We've
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also got protests in New York City. I don't even know.
I'm not even sure you could call it a protest, Clay,
I mean, you have these on the anniversary of October seventh,
and I have friends in New York that were sending
me video and photos from the streets of this people
marching and banging drums, literally banging drums over Palestine and
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the Palestinians and Hamas on the anniversary of October seventh.
So the Democrats are are some of them are unwell.
You can see. It's a polite way of saying it.
There's something very wrong with these people. But I think
that that is playing directly into some of the numbers
that we've seen Clay in Michigan right now and what's
(01:52):
gone on here. The analysis that Kamala bailed on Shapiro
in the hopes as VP, in the hopes of being
able to eke out Michigan is looking increasingly like it's
not just a analysis but really a consensus or close to
an established fact. We will dive into that momentarily. But
(02:16):
Clay the biggest thing in the political world for me
right now. New York Times here poll finds Harris rising
as she challenges Trump on change. I mean, they are scrambling,
that was the headline. They are scrambling to make it
seem at this point like it's still a close race
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that Kamala can win. It's going to be close. In
the aggregate numbers no matter what. But I mean, if
you look at the polls in the various wing states,
and we know that this is a real concern for Democrats,
we know that there is a shift toward quiet panic
for at least the Democrats who know because of the
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who of interviews suddenly that Kamala has done and Clayton,
I may we may have to uh, we may have
to argue on this one a little bit. I don't
know which one is the worst one or which SoundBite
is the worst SoundBite, because it's there's a lot of contenders. Right,
there's a lot that is up there. She has been
on Howard Stern call her daddy. She did the view today, right,
(03:20):
she did the view. I never she's on the view
literally in the last now or yeah, yeah, so so
she's on the view. I think she might still be
on the view. So she's doing all these interviews, but
the sixth, for me, the sixty minutes interview has the
worst stuff. Do we have conc I agree with you.
I think we should start with sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And there are a ton of clips from sixty minutes,
and I want to make sure that. I mean, first
of all, she is lighting herself on fire in all
of these interviews. So what do you like the best?
I'll let you make your choice here, she did you
tell us what the gun thing? I was going to
ask you.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We'll get to that's a little more fun because I
have some there's some things about that that I want
to get to.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
For me.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The the issue that they cannot get around is the
border and the ten million migrants. So ten million people
have come.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Into this country in four years.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
This is this is larger than most states, or at
least close to most states. I mean, how many states
have a population of ten million people? There's a you know,
it's I don't know a handful that there's not very many,
not that many. This is an enormous amount of people.
And sixty minutes Bill Whittaker decided to do the you know,
the random act of journalism here and ask her and
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press her on a question. You just I can't do it,
Justice Clay and I will dive into it. You need
to This is cut fourteen. You need to hear the
explanation on immigration from the person that Democrats say should
be the next president.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Play it was it a mistake to loosen the immigration
policies as much as you did.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
It's a long standing proper them and solutions are at hand,
and from day one, literally we have been offering solutions.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
What I was asking was, was it a mistake to
kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I think the policies that we have been proposing are
about fixing a problem, not promoting a problem.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Okay, but the numbers did quadruple.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
And the numbers today because of what we have done,
we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half.
We have cut the flow of sentinel by half. But
we need Congress to be able to act to actually
fix the problem.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Okay, Buck, this is to me a Trump campaign ad,
and you mentioned it, but I just want to say this,
this is what journalists should be doing. I want to
give credit to Bill Whitaker. I don't know a lot
about his history on sixty minutes. I'm gonna be honest
with you, I never watched sixty minutes. I think the
only reason anybody watches sixty minutes, to be honest, by
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and large, is because they put it on right after
the NFL. Nobody ever talks about the ratings and why
they're so high. It's because if you put on Cookie
Monster just eating cookies on the screen right after the NFL,
a lot of people leave the television on and so
the ratings would be massively high. But this is the
first time that I've seen a journalist actually push back
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and force Kamala to justify things. And even her answer, Buck,
she said they've cut it by half, that's actually still
a doubling even the best case scenario for what she's done.
He could have pushed harder, Buck and said, wait a minute,
if you had the ability to fix it, why did
you change all the policies everything else. But this is
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the best example straightforward crossings of quadrupled. You have to
own this and Kamala cannot answer it. And now let
me give you an example of how much this is spreading.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I shared this last night on my Twitter account. It
has been viewed six million times just from my Twitter account,
eighty thousand likes, twenty thousand retweets. This thing has gone megaviral,
not just from me, there's a lot of other people
that have shared it. But I think it's cutting through
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the noise in a big way. And this is evidence,
and we're gonna play a lot of other cuts. Why
they tried to hire Kamala. They've panicked. They now know
that they need to change the trajectory. And this is
why I said, this is like a running team that's
suddenly trying to throw the football. Things are gonna get worse.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, they've had to chain strategy in the final weeks
of an election, which there is no person Democrats strategist
or otherwise who could try to explain to you that
that isn't an indicator of it's not going as they want.
If your strategy is working, you stay with it. This
is true in warfare, it is true in sports, it
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is true in politics, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
True in life.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Right Like, if you're making good decisions in life, you
just keep doing them. You don't radically alter your life trajectory.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So why the chain? Why have they decided? Well because
the numbers aren't adding up for them in the way
that they want them to. And look, I'll just tell
you play.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
For me.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
This is a little bit like Kamala is the head
firefighter and the you know, and she's standing there talking
to a homeowner and because she did nothing, the house
completely burned down and the garage is still on fire. Okay,
because that's the border. There's still a lot of people
coming across, as you pointed out, double what it was
under Trump. The garage is on fire now, and she's saying,
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excuse me, excuse me, look at the progress we've made
sure your house burned down, but only the garage is
on fire now. This does not work. This is not
going to get her to the place politically she wants
to go and the other part of this, and they're
not even hammering her on this, and they could. First
of all, her whole approach to everything is we're talking
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about solutions, and solutions are about solving things with a solution.
I mean, you can't make this stuff up. She is
straight out of the show Vep. I've only seen a
few episodes, but it's true. And Clay, they chose to
change and to tout and to brag about the changes.
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She says, from day one, we've been trying to solve this.
They kicked open the doors, they decided to get rid
of the Trump policies. They bragged about it. You can
find all this online. The first thing Biden tried to
do was all deportations for one hundred days. Does everybody
remember this. They rang the dinner bell for the whole
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world to come here for a free meal, and they
were bragging about it. And now it's a political disaster.
And Kama turns around and says, we've got solutions they
don't have. First of all, what is the solution? What
is the solution? A border bill that would have made
it so you have five thousand or eight thousand a
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day coming across the league. That's a huge number.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
The whole thing is a mess. Panic and I mean,
I don't even know how else to call it it,
but other than panic. And we've got so many clips
from her, honestly, I can barely keep track. Let me
say this before as we continue to play all these
Kamal eclips. Trump not doing sixty minutes, brilliant, brilliant not
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to do sixty minutes. He got a little bit of
an attack over it. I would if I were giving
advice to the Trump team the rest of the way,
I wouldn't talk to the quote unquote mainstream media, CNN, MSNBC,
Washington Post, New York Times, CBS, NBCA, they're all going
to try to sink him.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You know, they're going to be unfair.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Trump did that sit down with Leslie Stall right before
the twenty twenty election where he asked her why they
weren't covering the Hunter Biden laptop and she claimed it
was all Russian dis info. They would have tried to
sandbag Trump, and I think it was smart. Get out
of the way. Let Kamala Harris light herself on fire.
Remember Buck when Trump stayed oddly for him, quiet in
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the aftermath of June twenty seventh, when Biden was a
disaster in the debate, and kind of let Biden just burn.
I really think over the next twenty seven to twenty
six days between now and the election, Trump can just
focus on his argument. Don't even get drug into Kamala
because Kamala is on fire. Make your argument, but keep distance.
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Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
We were talking strategy before, attributed to Napoleon. Never interrupt
your enemy when he's making a mistake, and the Democrat
making mistakes all over the place. It was now I
would say it's a mistake to try to hide a
Canada from the public, except what choice did they have?
The real mistake and I'm not trying to relitigate any
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stake bets here. Okay, maybe the real mistake was the
delusion that they were going to be able to run
Biden again, which was their I mean, that was what
they were doing. Obviously Biden there was no primary he
was the guy. So it's really like cascading failure, you
know what I mean, bad decision bad like my golf game.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Buck, It's like my golf game I'm playing on Tuesday.
Anybody who golf knows the feeling. You hit one bad shot,
you should just take your punishment, Just chip it back
in the fairway. What do you often do? Play hero
ball and you try to hit a second shot that's
way better than the first shot to make up for
the first shot, and you're often in worse shape. Again,
it defines my golf game. Take your medicine, put yourself
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back in the fairway, recognize that you're gonna bogie, and
take the triple bogie off this card. She's going for
triple bogie. And a lot of times, Buck, you know
what you do when you're walking on the golf course
and you get the triple bogie, you just say, well,
what's the max score you can get? Like I've got
buddies like, well, nobody gets worse than a ten. You
know we're not gonna go with quintuple bogee on the
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par five.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know, just taken eight, Just take a nine. You
were close enough.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
They're in trouble and the panic is setting in, and
you know what the headline is. I'll give you credit
on this since you had to buy the stake bet headline.
Wall Street Journal went up late last night. I don't
know if you saw this. Harris Allies fear she isn't
breaking through with a working class in crucial blue Wall states.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Harris Allies want sharper economic message, more campaign visits. The
panic is setting in, and I think buck the trajectory
we were on about two weeks. They're gonna start to
savage her publicly, maybe even faster, even before the election
gets here, because people are gonna run from her. Yeah,
after the election, for sure, But you think that's interesting.
(14:04):
I'm not sure people are going to start to distance
themselves from her and try to avoid responsibility for what's coming.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Here's what I what I could see. You might start
to have unnamed white House.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's what I mean that's running from her, like maybe
not under their own name, but like The story.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Is not gonna be like headline of the New York Times,
but there will be some stories in Politico. They will
start to seed the ideological battlefield here with basically, you
guys shouldn't have bailed on Biden. You guys shouldn't have
bailed on Biden. I know, we got a long way
to go. Anything can happen. We'll look at the numbers,
but we got a team. I'm telling you we have
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so many Kama Kamal eclipse and they are both hilarious
and shocking at the same time. The fact that Democrats
have run this person as the nominee is there's a
reason why they We'll get into Wallace. It's it's stunning,
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Speaker 2 (16:15):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Look, the
hits just keep on coming. For Kamala Harris, let's get
set the table. We're gonna hit you with a couple
of more coming up in the sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
She's been on the view and it did not go well.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Even though they tried to obviously softball question as much
as they could to her buck. There's one story I
was gonna mention from the New York Times. We have
been talking, certainly about the fact that Hurricane Milton is
coming closer and closer to Florida. But there was a
poll of the state of Florida from the New York
Times that has Trump up fourteen points in Florida fifty
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five to forty one. Now, I don't know what the
margin is going to win being, but let me tell
you this. If Trump wins Florida by double digits or
even close to double digits, he won Florida by three
over Joe Biden, He's not gonna lose Georgia, and he's
not losing North Carolina. I'm just telling you that right now.
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If Trump is up near double digits, and again the
New York Times has him up fourteen right now in Florida,
that border state of Georgia, he's not losing. And again,
that is a sign. I think if Trump wins Florida
by double digits, fuck, I think he would win the
national popular vote. Right now, about a one in three
chance that he would win the national popular vote in
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the gambling markets. But my goodness, that is a great number,
great poll for Trump that came out today from the
New York Times. We'll talk about that. We'll play more
Kamala hits for you when we come back. And by
the way, Senator Rick Scott of Florida gonna join us
at one.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Absolutely we'll get to that and we'll get some of
your calls and some of your emails on the back
half here as well.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
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Speaker 2 (19:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Kamala Harris
making the rounds on many different media cycles as she
tries to change the trajectory of the election, and it
is not going well. The number of viral clips of
her word salads and just absolutely ignorant perspectives not helping
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her at all. Tanking what was already I think a
campaign that was taken on a lot of water.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
But I want to play someone. Let you hear it
for yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Here is Kamala Harris confronted by Bill Whittaker on sixty
minutes about all of her flip flops and why voters
should trust her. This is cut seventeen.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You have changed your position on so many things. You
were against fracking, now you're for it. You supported looser
immigration policies, now you're tightening them up. You're for Medicare
for all, now you're not so many of that. People
don't truly know what you believe or what you stand for.
(20:06):
And I know you've heard that.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
In the last four years, I have been Vice president
of the United States, and I have been traveling our
country and I have been listening to folks and seeking
what is possible in terms of common ground. I believe
in building consensus. We are diverse.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
People geographically regionally in terms of where we are in
our backgrounds, and what the American people do want is
that we have leaders who can build consensus where we
can figure out.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Compromise and understand it's not a bad thing as long
as you don't compromise your values to find common sense solutions.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Ah, come on, do you ever remember, because I have
members of this particularly like seventh eighth grade, when a
teacher would ask a student why they didn't have their
homework or like why they didn't do the assignment. Oh yeah,
and instead of addressing it, it turned into like.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
You know, it's very complicated when you think about all
of the factors involved in completing the assignment, and they
just try to like fill a buster the whole premise
of what's going on.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Kamala does this all the time. She has changed on
so many things. And it's even worse than changing on
the things, she has had people anonymously on her behalf.
Tell people in the media who are Kamala voters basically, Oh,
it's okay, she's changed her mind on that. Go tell
everybody that she doesn't even know what she's changed her
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mind on, because it has nothing to do with her.
This is all the construct around her, and whenever they
ask her about it, she's talking about consensus and like
a middle path and solutions and it's it's like the
jargon you would expect from some consultant who's being paid
to tell you how to fix a business they know
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nothing about.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and everything with her this is HR, this is DEI.
Whatever you do for a living, I bet the people
that you dislike the most in your company probably work
in either HR or Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, because again,
in my opinion, neither one of those groups actually create
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things or in my experience, help the overall functioning of
the business. Not saying you don't have to have an
HR department, but we all know what HR does. Basically
go around making a mess of everything, investigating everybody who
usually makes complaints by and large to HR. A lot
of people out there that are malcontents inside of their
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jobs just being honest. And look, I did HR investigations,
so I understand people can be like and you know
who really sucks warriors who do HR investigations. Yeah, I've
been there. But in general, that's the way that people
respond to HR departments and DEI. This is Kamala Harris's
campaign in a nutshell buck. She went on The View
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just in the last hour and she was asked by
Sonny hoston, who in my power rankings right now I
have as the dumbest current member of The View. She
has passed joy behar Whoope Goldberg's strong third position there
It is a triumvirent of idiocy. But Sonny Hostin is
the king of the idiots right now. And Sonny Hostin
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gives her an absolute layup of a question, Hey, you
weren't president, what would you do differently if you had
been president? Given that you're running for president? Now, listen
to the question, listen to the answer. It feels like
a Trump campaign ad. This was just in the last
hour on the View Kamala on what she would do differently.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
If anything, Would you have done something differently than President
Biden during.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The past four years?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
There is done a thing that comes to mind in
terms of and I've been a part of most the
decisions that have had impacts.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Going from there.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
But this is just, I mean, this destroys her entire
argument for why she should be promoted. This is why
I've mentioned cognitive dissonance before as the center of the
Kamala campaign, right, because she's an agent of change, but
she's also gonna keep the Biden legacy going forward. She's
gonna make things better for the middle class for the
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next four years. But she hasn't been in charge or
in any way involved with the middle class for the
last four years. None of this makes any sense. The
front page again New York Times, which is still the
paper of record for leftist lunatics out there for the
Democrat Party, it says, Paul finds Harris rising as she
challenges Trump on change. So hold on a second. When
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she's asked what she would change from what Joe Biden
has done, her answer is nothing. Meanwhile, the rest of
the media just desperate to fool people into voting for her,
are trying to convince undecided voters. At this point, Clay
that she's going to change things up. It cannot be
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both things. It can't be Biden did everything perfectly for
the last four years, and I am going to change
things for the next four years.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It's just nonsensical.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Also, this is a very common thing in politics where
people refuse to acknowledge that they ever made any mistakes
in your own life. If I ask you, would you
have changed anything that you've done in the last four years,
every single person on the planet would say, yeah, you know,
I did X, I should have done why? Or man,
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I did why and I wish I had done X.
The entire basis of personal growth, And I don't want
to sound like I'm given a Ted talk here, but
is as you age, you should get better with wisdom
and you should make better choices. That's the entire basis
of life.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Right. So if you say I.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Wouldn't change anything at all, it to me is not
a reflective answer of being honest with yourself. And by
the way, if you have the least popular first term
in modern American political history, which is what Joe Biden
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has right now.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Wouldn't you, just.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
On its most baseline level, say, you know, maybe we
shouldn't have spent all those trillions of dollars that drove
up inflation to nine percent. Maybe we would have liked
to be able to keep mortgage rates at two and
a half percent. Maybe we would have left Afghanistan without
losing thirteen lives based on the way that we departed.
Maybe we wouldn't have allowed over ten million plus illegal
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immigrants into the country. Maybe we wouldn't have said police
are the problem and allowed violent crime to skyrocket in
many different cities across the country. The argument that she
is the change agent, but she wouldn't change a single
thing that has been done, and that she was involved
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in all of the choices that have been made. As
she said there in that clip, it's an utterly devastating
answer that undermines the entire basis of her campaign, and
it feels like the view just made a banger of
a campaign ad for Donald Trump. She went into the softest,
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easiest going interview imaginable buck it got a question that
is not difficult at all to foresee and was completely
unable to answer it. And by the way, when we
come back, Joe Biden just said that Kamala Harris basically
is a is an idiot, because he said Ron DeSantis
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has his personal phone number and has been doing a
fantastic job getting ready for the hurricane. Kamala said Ron
Desanders would have talked to her. Desantas said, basically, will
play some cuts maybe for this later. She's the vice president,
she doesn't have any role. I've never talked to her
for any of these hurricanes. I worked well with Trump
and with Biden. Biden just said in his press availability
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what he never talks to anybody. By the way, he
did at press event the same exact time that she's
on the view and just said DeSantis is doing a
fantastic job with the hurricane Milton headed towards Florida. Which fuck,
it's hard to see that as anything other than Biden
really doesn't like Kamala and he's actually actively undermining her. Now,
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this is it's an act of God situation and a
once in a generation, perhaps even more than that hurricane
event bearing down upon the state of Florida. But so
you know it's gonna be it's gonna be bad.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You know, but there's nobody as a governor that you
would rather have handling a hurricane than Rondacentis. That's just
I mean, and that's not just an opinion based on
Oh I think he's generally a smart guy and adept
at things, which he is. It's based on the record
of how he's been able to handle hurricane response so
far to some big ones like Ian. I mean, he's
handled some big hurricanes and really put on a clinic.
(29:16):
So yeah, he knows what he's doing on this. And
for Clay, Kamala Harris's political instincts are wrong. She is
horrible at this. This is why we're all getting a
reminder because it was so obvious. Of course, Biden's too old.
Why don't we just meeting the Democrats. Why don't we
just have the vice president step up or have a primary. Well,
(29:40):
they didn't want to go around Kamala because it doesn't
look good. But they couldn't allow Kamala to be in
a normal campaign cycle where she'd have months and months
of people seeing this stuff because there's no chance she
would win. So that's where why we are where we are.
None of this is really a surprise.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Buck what happened was and I think if you went back,
you would be able to see this. Twenty twenty two
not being a red wave emboldened Joe Biden to believe
that Americans were endorsing his leadership. And when twenty twenty
two wasn't a disaster, when they didn't lose the Senate,
when they barely lost the House, Biden decided that he
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was running for reelection then. And I do think this
is going to end up biding Democrats in the butt
here because if he had stepped down, which he should have,
and they had had an open primary, I think there's
a zero percent chance Kamala Harris would have been their
nominee if they had had a full fledged primary like
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Republicans did. Trump won, but Kamala Harris wouldn't be the nominee.
It just wouldn't have happened. But all of this coming
together the way it did, heckbuck, if he hadn't agreed
to do the June twenty seventh debate, then he would
have still been the nominee. He got suckered into doing
an early debate where they could force him out. But again,
(31:03):
we're gonna play some audio for you here in a
little bit. I think there is a pretty clear evidence
now that Biden is bitter over being forced out and
does not like Kamala Harris and is actually undermining her.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And if she.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Loses, what he's gonna say is I would have won.
Make no mistake, all of his team is setting the
groundwork for you, guys. Made a poor decision.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
She lost.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
She's a worse candidate than me, and you have to
reap what you sew. If she wins, then he'll be like, oh,
look I'm Cincinnatus, I'm George Washington. I gave up power.
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This hurricane is going to be nasty. Uh, it is
going to be dangerous. It is going to be deadly,
and the state of Florida is preparing for it the
best it can, along with some other possible I think
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it's really going to be overwhelmingly Florida. That's hit based
on the trajectory that we're seeing. But we will continue
to follow this as closely as we can. We got
Tom and Tampa. He wants to argue with Clay, so
that's always fun. What's up Tom?
Speaker 9 (34:33):
Yeah, well, I want to make sure bucking Clay Clay.
I think your argument was what yes, which I can refute.
I think your argument was that basically, if if it
had not been for the situation with Joe Biden, that
(34:57):
that Tamala Harris would not have got nomination. In other words,
the machine that the Dems had a legit if they
had a legit primary, Kabla Harris would not have gotten
the nomination. Was that Your argument that you made just
now was that cot Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I do not believe Kamala would have been their nominee
if they had had a full primary. I think failed.
You agree with me too on that. So you think
Kamala would have been the nominee?
Speaker 9 (35:27):
No, No, this is this is where and you said
something that caused me to pick up the phone. This
is where I think. I think there's a fallacy. Everybody's
missing and I'm agreeing with you, but I'm disagreeing with you.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
The fallacy around marriage.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Is this is this is how the communist machine works.
And here's what I mean. If we go back to
twenty sixteen with Hillary Clinton, all right, there is no
way without the super delegates, no way that you would
have had that nomination. That would have been Bernie Sanders.
Same thing in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Okay, but let me respond, Yeah, I understand your argument.
So you think they would have made Kamala to pick.
Here's what you're missing. The reason they didn't want Bernie
was because Hillary, they believed was a better candidate in
twenty sixteen and more likely to win. The reason they
wanted Biden in twenty was because they believed, and they
ended up being correct, that they could get enough older
(36:24):
people in the Midwest to vote for Biden. They would
have known that Kamala was not the best candidate, and
they wouldn't have put their finger on the scale for her.
I understand your point on rigging buck. Do you think
the Democrats, if they had an open primary, would have
tried in the DNC to make Kamala the nominee.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I think they would have.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Known that she was a very weak candidate, and I
think they would have gotten out of the way of her.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I think that Hillary was in second place based on
the elector without the delegates, Kamala was in like fifteenth place.
Welcome and everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now, and the big
stories we have for you. First off, I'm here in
South Florida. The hurricane Hurricane Milton that is approaching could
be one of the most devastating hurricanes to make landfall
(00:22):
in decades. It is a frightening storm even for people
who have been through many hurricanes. Many of my fellow
Floridians and those who have been here many many years
longer than me are taking the approach that this is
the big one in a sense. Will give you the
latest on that. It comes while we still are watching
(00:46):
as a lot of volunteers, a lot of citizen saving
is going on here or saving by citizens everyday, Americans,
former military in the aftermath of Helene. So we're still
digging out of one and everyone's bracing here for impact
on another. We'll bring you the latest on that. We've
(01:10):
also got protests in New York City. I don't even know.
I'm not even sure you could call it a protest, Clay,
I mean, you have these on the anniversary of October seventh,
and I have friends in New York that were sending
me video and photos from the streets of this people
marching and banging drums, literally banging drums over Palestine and
(01:32):
the Palestinians and Hamas on the anniversary of October seventh.
So the Democrats are are some of them are unwell.
You can see. It's a polite way of saying it.
There's something very wrong with these people. But I think
that that is playing directly into some of the numbers
that we've seen Clay in Michigan right now and what's
(01:52):
gone on here. The analysis that Kamala bailed on Shapiro
in the hopes as VP, in the hopes of being
able to eke out Michigan is looking increasingly like it's
not just a analysis but really a consensus or close to
an established fact. We will dive into that momentarily. But
(02:16):
Clay the biggest thing in the political world for me
right now. New York Times here poll finds Harris rising
as she challenges Trump on change. I mean, they are scrambling,
that was the headline. They are scrambling to make it
seem at this point like it's still a close race
(02:38):
that Kamala can win. It's going to be close. In
the aggregate numbers no matter what. But I mean, if
you look at the polls in the various wing states,
and we know that this is a real concern for Democrats,
we know that there is a shift toward quiet panic
for at least the Democrats who know because of the
(03:00):
who of interviews suddenly that Kamala has done and Clayton,
I may we may have to uh, we may have
to argue on this one a little bit. I don't
know which one is the worst one or which SoundBite
is the worst SoundBite, because it's there's a lot of contenders. Right,
there's a lot that is up there. She has been
on Howard Stern call her daddy. She did the view today, right,
(03:20):
she did the view. I never she's on the view
literally in the last now or yeah, yeah, so so
she's on the view. I think she might still be
on the view. So she's doing all these interviews, but
the sixth, for me, the sixty minutes interview has the
worst stuff. Do we have conc I agree with you.
I think we should start with sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And there are a ton of clips from sixty minutes,
and I want to make sure that. I mean, first
of all, she is lighting herself on fire in all
of these interviews. So what do you like the best?
I'll let you make your choice here, she did you
tell us what the gun thing? I was going to
ask you.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We'll get to that's a little more fun because I
have some there's some things about that that I want
to get to.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
For me.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The the issue that they cannot get around is the
border and the ten million migrants. So ten million people
have come.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Into this country in four years.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
This is this is larger than most states, or at
least close to most states. I mean, how many states
have a population of ten million people? There's a you know,
it's I don't know a handful that there's not very many,
not that many. This is an enormous amount of people.
And sixty minutes Bill Whittaker decided to do the you know,
the random act of journalism here and ask her and
(04:38):
press her on a question. You just I can't do it,
Justice Clay and I will dive into it. You need
to This is cut fourteen. You need to hear the
explanation on immigration from the person that Democrats say should
be the next president.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Play it was it a mistake to loosen the immigration
policies as much as you did.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
It's a long standing proper them and solutions are at hand,
and from day one, literally we have been offering solutions.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
What I was asking was, was it a mistake to
kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I think the policies that we have been proposing are
about fixing a problem, not promoting a problem.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Okay, but the numbers did quadruple.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
And the numbers today because of what we have done,
we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half.
We have cut the flow of sentinel by half. But
we need Congress to be able to act to actually
fix the problem.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Okay, Buck, this is to me a Trump campaign ad,
and you mentioned it, but I just want to say this,
this is what journalists should be doing. I want to
give credit to Bill Whitaker. I don't know a lot
about his history on sixty minutes. I'm gonna be honest
with you, I never watched sixty minutes. I think the
only reason anybody watches sixty minutes, to be honest, by
(06:06):
and large, is because they put it on right after
the NFL. Nobody ever talks about the ratings and why
they're so high. It's because if you put on Cookie
Monster just eating cookies on the screen right after the NFL,
a lot of people leave the television on and so
the ratings would be massively high. But this is the
first time that I've seen a journalist actually push back
(06:30):
and force Kamala to justify things. And even her answer, Buck,
she said they've cut it by half, that's actually still
a doubling even the best case scenario for what she's done.
He could have pushed harder, Buck and said, wait a minute,
if you had the ability to fix it, why did
you change all the policies everything else. But this is
(06:51):
the best example straightforward crossings of quadrupled. You have to
own this and Kamala cannot answer it. And now let
me give you an example of how much this is spreading.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I shared this last night on my Twitter account. It
has been viewed six million times just from my Twitter account,
eighty thousand likes, twenty thousand retweets. This thing has gone megaviral,
not just from me, there's a lot of other people
that have shared it. But I think it's cutting through
(07:25):
the noise in a big way. And this is evidence,
and we're gonna play a lot of other cuts. Why
they tried to hire Kamala. They've panicked. They now know
that they need to change the trajectory. And this is
why I said, this is like a running team that's
suddenly trying to throw the football. Things are gonna get worse.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, they've had to chain strategy in the final weeks
of an election, which there is no person Democrats strategist
or otherwise who could try to explain to you that
that isn't an indicator of it's not going as they want.
If your strategy is working, you stay with it. This
is true in warfare, it is true in sports, it
(08:04):
is true in politics, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
True in life.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Right Like, if you're making good decisions in life, you
just keep doing them. You don't radically alter your life trajectory.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So why the chain? Why have they decided? Well because
the numbers aren't adding up for them in the way
that they want them to. And look, I'll just tell
you play.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
For me.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
This is a little bit like Kamala is the head
firefighter and the you know, and she's standing there talking
to a homeowner and because she did nothing, the house
completely burned down and the garage is still on fire. Okay,
because that's the border. There's still a lot of people
coming across, as you pointed out, double what it was
under Trump. The garage is on fire now, and she's saying,
(08:48):
excuse me, excuse me, look at the progress we've made
sure your house burned down, but only the garage is
on fire now. This does not work. This is not
going to get her to the place politically she wants
to go and the other part of this, and they're
not even hammering her on this, and they could. First
of all, her whole approach to everything is we're talking
(09:11):
about solutions, and solutions are about solving things with a solution.
I mean, you can't make this stuff up. She is
straight out of the show Vep. I've only seen a
few episodes, but it's true. And Clay, they chose to
change and to tout and to brag about the changes.
(09:32):
She says, from day one, we've been trying to solve this.
They kicked open the doors, they decided to get rid
of the Trump policies. They bragged about it. You can
find all this online. The first thing Biden tried to
do was all deportations for one hundred days. Does everybody
remember this. They rang the dinner bell for the whole
(09:53):
world to come here for a free meal, and they
were bragging about it. And now it's a political disaster.
And Kama turns around and says, we've got solutions they
don't have. First of all, what is the solution? What
is the solution? A border bill that would have made
it so you have five thousand or eight thousand a
(10:13):
day coming across the league. That's a huge number.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
The whole thing is a mess. Panic and I mean,
I don't even know how else to call it it,
but other than panic. And we've got so many clips
from her, honestly, I can barely keep track. Let me
say this before as we continue to play all these
Kamal eclips. Trump not doing sixty minutes, brilliant, brilliant not
(10:42):
to do sixty minutes. He got a little bit of
an attack over it. I would if I were giving
advice to the Trump team the rest of the way,
I wouldn't talk to the quote unquote mainstream media, CNN, MSNBC,
Washington Post, New York Times, CBS, NBCA, they're all going
to try to sink him.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You know, they're going to be unfair.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Trump did that sit down with Leslie Stall right before
the twenty twenty election where he asked her why they
weren't covering the Hunter Biden laptop and she claimed it
was all Russian dis info. They would have tried to
sandbag Trump, and I think it was smart. Get out
of the way. Let Kamala Harris light herself on fire.
Remember Buck when Trump stayed oddly for him, quiet in
(11:28):
the aftermath of June twenty seventh, when Biden was a
disaster in the debate, and kind of let Biden just burn.
I really think over the next twenty seven to twenty
six days between now and the election, Trump can just
focus on his argument. Don't even get drug into Kamala
because Kamala is on fire. Make your argument, but keep distance.
(11:50):
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
We were talking strategy before, attributed to Napoleon. Never interrupt
your enemy when he's making a mistake, and the Democrat
making mistakes all over the place. It was now I
would say it's a mistake to try to hide a
Canada from the public, except what choice did they have?
The real mistake and I'm not trying to relitigate any
(12:12):
stake bets here. Okay, maybe the real mistake was the
delusion that they were going to be able to run
Biden again, which was their I mean, that was what
they were doing. Obviously Biden there was no primary he
was the guy. So it's really like cascading failure, you
know what I mean, bad decision bad like my golf game.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Buck, It's like my golf game I'm playing on Tuesday.
Anybody who golf knows the feeling. You hit one bad shot,
you should just take your punishment, Just chip it back
in the fairway. What do you often do? Play hero
ball and you try to hit a second shot that's
way better than the first shot to make up for
the first shot, and you're often in worse shape. Again,
it defines my golf game. Take your medicine, put yourself
(12:55):
back in the fairway, recognize that you're gonna bogie, and
take the triple bogie off this card. She's going for
triple bogie. And a lot of times, Buck, you know
what you do when you're walking on the golf course
and you get the triple bogie, you just say, well,
what's the max score you can get? Like I've got
buddies like, well, nobody gets worse than a ten. You
know we're not gonna go with quintuple bogee on the
(13:16):
par five.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know, just taken eight, Just take a nine. You
were close enough.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
They're in trouble and the panic is setting in, and
you know what the headline is. I'll give you credit
on this since you had to buy the stake bet headline.
Wall Street Journal went up late last night. I don't
know if you saw this. Harris Allies fear she isn't
breaking through with a working class in crucial blue Wall states.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Harris Allies want sharper economic message, more campaign visits. The
panic is setting in, and I think buck the trajectory
we were on about two weeks. They're gonna start to
savage her publicly, maybe even faster, even before the election
gets here, because people are gonna run from her. Yeah,
after the election, for sure, But you think that's interesting.
(14:04):
I'm not sure people are going to start to distance
themselves from her and try to avoid responsibility for what's coming.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Here's what I what I could see. You might start
to have unnamed white House.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's what I mean that's running from her, like maybe
not under their own name, but like The story.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Is not gonna be like headline of the New York Times,
but there will be some stories in Politico. They will
start to seed the ideological battlefield here with basically, you
guys shouldn't have bailed on Biden. You guys shouldn't have
bailed on Biden. I know, we got a long way
to go. Anything can happen. We'll look at the numbers,
but we got a team. I'm telling you we have
(14:46):
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Speaker 2 (16:15):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Look, the
hits just keep on coming. For Kamala Harris, let's get
set the table. We're gonna hit you with a couple
of more coming up in the sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
She's been on the view and it did not go well.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Even though they tried to obviously softball question as much
as they could to her buck. There's one story I
was gonna mention from the New York Times. We have
been talking, certainly about the fact that Hurricane Milton is
coming closer and closer to Florida. But there was a
poll of the state of Florida from the New York
Times that has Trump up fourteen points in Florida fifty
(16:56):
five to forty one. Now, I don't know what the
margin is going to win being, but let me tell
you this. If Trump wins Florida by double digits or
even close to double digits, he won Florida by three
over Joe Biden, He's not gonna lose Georgia, and he's
not losing North Carolina. I'm just telling you that right now.
(17:16):
If Trump is up near double digits, and again the
New York Times has him up fourteen right now in Florida,
that border state of Georgia, he's not losing. And again,
that is a sign. I think if Trump wins Florida
by double digits, fuck, I think he would win the
national popular vote. Right now, about a one in three
chance that he would win the national popular vote in
(17:38):
the gambling markets. But my goodness, that is a great number,
great poll for Trump that came out today from the
New York Times. We'll talk about that. We'll play more
Kamala hits for you when we come back. And by
the way, Senator Rick Scott of Florida gonna join us
at one.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Absolutely we'll get to that and we'll get some of
your calls and some of your emails on the back
half here as well.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well.
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Speaker 2 (19:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Kamala Harris
making the rounds on many different media cycles as she
tries to change the trajectory of the election, and it
is not going well. The number of viral clips of
her word salads and just absolutely ignorant perspectives not helping
(19:23):
her at all. Tanking what was already I think a
campaign that was taken on a lot of water.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
But I want to play someone. Let you hear it
for yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Here is Kamala Harris confronted by Bill Whittaker on sixty
minutes about all of her flip flops and why voters
should trust her. This is cut seventeen.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You have changed your position on so many things. You
were against fracking, now you're for it. You supported looser
immigration policies, now you're tightening them up. You're for Medicare
for all, now you're not so many of that. People
don't truly know what you believe or what you stand for.
(20:06):
And I know you've heard that.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
In the last four years, I have been Vice president
of the United States, and I have been traveling our
country and I have been listening to folks and seeking
what is possible in terms of common ground. I believe
in building consensus. We are diverse.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
People geographically regionally in terms of where we are in
our backgrounds, and what the American people do want is
that we have leaders who can build consensus where we
can figure out.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Compromise and understand it's not a bad thing as long
as you don't compromise your values to find common sense solutions.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Ah, come on, do you ever remember, because I have
members of this particularly like seventh eighth grade, when a
teacher would ask a student why they didn't have their
homework or like why they didn't do the assignment. Oh yeah,
and instead of addressing it, it turned into like.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
You know, it's very complicated when you think about all
of the factors involved in completing the assignment, and they
just try to like fill a buster the whole premise
of what's going on.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Kamala does this all the time. She has changed on
so many things. And it's even worse than changing on
the things, she has had people anonymously on her behalf.
Tell people in the media who are Kamala voters basically, Oh,
it's okay, she's changed her mind on that. Go tell
everybody that she doesn't even know what she's changed her
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mind on, because it has nothing to do with her.
This is all the construct around her, and whenever they
ask her about it, she's talking about consensus and like
a middle path and solutions and it's it's like the
jargon you would expect from some consultant who's being paid
to tell you how to fix a business they know
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nothing about.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and everything with her this is HR, this is DEI.
Whatever you do for a living, I bet the people
that you dislike the most in your company probably work
in either HR or Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, because again,
in my opinion, neither one of those groups actually create
(22:22):
things or in my experience, help the overall functioning of
the business. Not saying you don't have to have an
HR department, but we all know what HR does. Basically
go around making a mess of everything, investigating everybody who
usually makes complaints by and large to HR. A lot
of people out there that are malcontents inside of their
(22:45):
jobs just being honest. And look, I did HR investigations,
so I understand people can be like and you know
who really sucks warriors who do HR investigations. Yeah, I've
been there. But in general, that's the way that people
respond to HR departments and DEI. This is Kamala Harris's
campaign in a nutshell buck. She went on The View
(23:07):
just in the last hour and she was asked by
Sonny hoston, who in my power rankings right now I
have as the dumbest current member of The View. She
has passed joy behar Whoope Goldberg's strong third position there
It is a triumvirent of idiocy. But Sonny Hostin is
the king of the idiots right now. And Sonny Hostin
(23:28):
gives her an absolute layup of a question, Hey, you
weren't president, what would you do differently if you had
been president? Given that you're running for president? Now, listen
to the question, listen to the answer. It feels like
a Trump campaign ad. This was just in the last
hour on the View Kamala on what she would do differently.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
If anything, Would you have done something differently than President
Biden during.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The past four years?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
There is done a thing that comes to mind in
terms of and I've been a part of most the
decisions that have had impacts.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Going from there.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
But this is just, I mean, this destroys her entire
argument for why she should be promoted. This is why
I've mentioned cognitive dissonance before as the center of the
Kamala campaign, right, because she's an agent of change, but
she's also gonna keep the Biden legacy going forward. She's
gonna make things better for the middle class for the
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next four years. But she hasn't been in charge or
in any way involved with the middle class for the
last four years. None of this makes any sense. The
front page again New York Times, which is still the
paper of record for leftist lunatics out there for the
Democrat Party, it says, Paul finds Harris rising as she
challenges Trump on change. So hold on a second. When
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she's asked what she would change from what Joe Biden
has done, her answer is nothing. Meanwhile, the rest of
the media just desperate to fool people into voting for her,
are trying to convince undecided voters. At this point, Clay
that she's going to change things up. It cannot be
(25:10):
both things. It can't be Biden did everything perfectly for
the last four years, and I am going to change
things for the next four years.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It's just nonsensical.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Also, this is a very common thing in politics where
people refuse to acknowledge that they ever made any mistakes
in your own life. If I ask you, would you
have changed anything that you've done in the last four years,
every single person on the planet would say, yeah, you know,
I did X, I should have done why? Or man,
(25:46):
I did why and I wish I had done X.
The entire basis of personal growth, And I don't want
to sound like I'm given a Ted talk here, but
is as you age, you should get better with wisdom
and you should make better choices. That's the entire basis
of life.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Right. So if you say I.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Wouldn't change anything at all, it to me is not
a reflective answer of being honest with yourself. And by
the way, if you have the least popular first term
in modern American political history, which is what Joe Biden
(26:30):
has right now.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Wouldn't you, just.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
On its most baseline level, say, you know, maybe we
shouldn't have spent all those trillions of dollars that drove
up inflation to nine percent. Maybe we would have liked
to be able to keep mortgage rates at two and
a half percent. Maybe we would have left Afghanistan without
losing thirteen lives based on the way that we departed.
Maybe we wouldn't have allowed over ten million plus illegal
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immigrants into the country. Maybe we wouldn't have said police
are the problem and allowed violent crime to skyrocket in
many different cities across the country. The argument that she
is the change agent, but she wouldn't change a single
thing that has been done, and that she was involved
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in all of the choices that have been made. As
she said there in that clip, it's an utterly devastating
answer that undermines the entire basis of her campaign, and
it feels like the view just made a banger of
a campaign ad for Donald Trump. She went into the softest,
(27:37):
easiest going interview imaginable buck it got a question that
is not difficult at all to foresee and was completely
unable to answer it. And by the way, when we
come back, Joe Biden just said that Kamala Harris basically
is a is an idiot, because he said Ron DeSantis
(27:59):
has his personal phone number and has been doing a
fantastic job getting ready for the hurricane. Kamala said Ron
Desanders would have talked to her. Desantas said, basically, will
play some cuts maybe for this later. She's the vice president,
she doesn't have any role. I've never talked to her
for any of these hurricanes. I worked well with Trump
and with Biden. Biden just said in his press availability
(28:22):
what he never talks to anybody. By the way, he
did at press event the same exact time that she's
on the view and just said DeSantis is doing a
fantastic job with the hurricane Milton headed towards Florida. Which fuck,
it's hard to see that as anything other than Biden
really doesn't like Kamala and he's actually actively undermining her. Now,
(28:42):
this is it's an act of God situation and a
once in a generation, perhaps even more than that hurricane
event bearing down upon the state of Florida. But so
you know it's gonna be it's gonna be bad.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You know, but there's nobody as a governor that you
would rather have handling a hurricane than Rondacentis. That's just
I mean, and that's not just an opinion based on
Oh I think he's generally a smart guy and adept
at things, which he is. It's based on the record
of how he's been able to handle hurricane response so
far to some big ones like Ian. I mean, he's
handled some big hurricanes and really put on a clinic.
(29:16):
So yeah, he knows what he's doing on this. And
for Clay, Kamala Harris's political instincts are wrong. She is
horrible at this. This is why we're all getting a
reminder because it was so obvious. Of course, Biden's too old.
Why don't we just meeting the Democrats. Why don't we
just have the vice president step up or have a primary. Well,
(29:40):
they didn't want to go around Kamala because it doesn't
look good. But they couldn't allow Kamala to be in
a normal campaign cycle where she'd have months and months
of people seeing this stuff because there's no chance she
would win. So that's where why we are where we are.
None of this is really a surprise.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Buck what happened was and I think if you went back,
you would be able to see this. Twenty twenty two
not being a red wave emboldened Joe Biden to believe
that Americans were endorsing his leadership. And when twenty twenty
two wasn't a disaster, when they didn't lose the Senate,
when they barely lost the House, Biden decided that he
(30:20):
was running for reelection then. And I do think this
is going to end up biding Democrats in the butt
here because if he had stepped down, which he should have,
and they had had an open primary, I think there's
a zero percent chance Kamala Harris would have been their
nominee if they had had a full fledged primary like
(30:42):
Republicans did. Trump won, but Kamala Harris wouldn't be the nominee.
It just wouldn't have happened. But all of this coming
together the way it did, heckbuck, if he hadn't agreed
to do the June twenty seventh debate, then he would
have still been the nominee. He got suckered into doing
an early debate where they could force him out. But again,
(31:03):
we're gonna play some audio for you here in a
little bit. I think there is a pretty clear evidence
now that Biden is bitter over being forced out and
does not like Kamala Harris and is actually undermining her.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And if she.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Loses, what he's gonna say is I would have won.
Make no mistake, all of his team is setting the
groundwork for you, guys. Made a poor decision.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
She lost.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
She's a worse candidate than me, and you have to
reap what you sew. If she wins, then he'll be like, oh,
look I'm Cincinnatus, I'm George Washington. I gave up power.
But I think the more likely outcome is he's going
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We got Florida Center. Rick Scott will be joining us
shortly and we'll talk to him about what's coming this
This hurricane is going to be nasty. Uh, it is
going to be dangerous. It is going to be deadly,
and the state of Florida is preparing for it the
best it can, along with some other possible I think
(34:19):
it's really going to be overwhelmingly Florida. That's hit based
on the trajectory that we're seeing. But we will continue
to follow this as closely as we can. We got
Tom and Tampa. He wants to argue with Clay, so
that's always fun. What's up Tom?
Speaker 9 (34:33):
Yeah, well, I want to make sure bucking Clay Clay.
I think your argument was what yes, which I can refute.
I think your argument was that basically, if if it
had not been for the situation with Joe Biden, that
(34:57):
that Tamala Harris would not have got nomination. In other words,
the machine that the Dems had a legit if they
had a legit primary, Kabla Harris would not have gotten
the nomination. Was that Your argument that you made just
now was that cot Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I do not believe Kamala would have been their nominee
if they had had a full primary. I think failed.
You agree with me too on that. So you think
Kamala would have been the nominee?
Speaker 9 (35:27):
No, No, this is this is where and you said
something that caused me to pick up the phone. This
is where I think. I think there's a fallacy. Everybody's
missing and I'm agreeing with you, but I'm disagreeing with you.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
The fallacy around marriage.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Is this is this is how the communist machine works.
And here's what I mean. If we go back to
twenty sixteen with Hillary Clinton, all right, there is no
way without the super delegates, no way that you would
have had that nomination. That would have been Bernie Sanders.
Same thing in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Okay, but let me respond, Yeah, I understand your argument.
So you think they would have made Kamala to pick.
Here's what you're missing. The reason they didn't want Bernie
was because Hillary, they believed was a better candidate in
twenty sixteen and more likely to win. The reason they
wanted Biden in twenty was because they believed, and they
ended up being correct, that they could get enough older
(36:24):
people in the Midwest to vote for Biden. They would
have known that Kamala was not the best candidate, and
they wouldn't have put their finger on the scale for her.
I understand your point on rigging buck. Do you think
the Democrats, if they had an open primary, would have
tried in the DNC to make Kamala the nominee.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I think they would have.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Known that she was a very weak candidate, and I
think they would have gotten out of the way of her.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I think that Hillary was in second place based on
the elector without the delegates, Kamala was in like fifteenth place.
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