October 13, 2024 • 42 mins
Men for Kamala. Real women’s day. The power of radio. Black men for Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bold rever It and occasionally random the Sunday hang with
playing Fuck podcast and it starts. Now, you don't want.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
To end up in one of these com lads.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
They're like, yeah, I like guns and muscles and show tunes.
I mean, it's a little weird what they've got going on.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It reminds me, but not in a funny way of
remember forty year old Virgin when he starts talking about
how he likes women's body parts, and everybody just starts
getting like really uncomfortable because it's clear that he hasn't
ever been around a woman. And that's kind of how
I would say men who are pretending to vote for
(00:41):
Kamala are when it comes to their masculinity, they are
very divorced from what it is to be a man,
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
I want to know how much how much.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Would you have to get paid to appear in a
men for kamala ad?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Is there a dollar retirement retirement level?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Money?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Like it would have to be like I never have
to work again.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You would you would just never be able to be
seen again, like you would do the ad and then
you would just vanish.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I'm actually surprised by this, I guess because they want
to appeal to the folks, you know, as democrats, the folks.
But I think that the obvious move, for the more
obvious move would be to have you know, one of
these one of these actors who's taking like, you know,
a thousand milligrams of testosterone a week and some HGH
or whatever is super jacked at least while they're making
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the movie, and they tell everybody they just like, have
a great trainer and do push ups. Have one of
them come forward and be like, oh, like I am
thour and like I love Kamala Harris. You know, but
I guess they want they don't want the Hollywood elite thing,
so instead they've got these guys Like That's what I
thought they would do for the masculinity problem, but maybe
that would seem too phony to them, so instead they
have guys who are coming forward. I mean, I'll you know.
(02:00):
Ryan Gradusky said this in response to this ad on
X on Twitter. He's like, could they find somebody who
doesn't seem like they have a testosterone deficiency to be
the exemplar of masculinity. That's a fair point. I don't
know why they can't get this right, but I think
maybe they've just so many of the guys in the
Democrat Party have been so just hectored by feminists that
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they're terrified.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I don't know, you're not.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
A football guy, but it always makes me laugh when
they do football and they have people who can't throw
a football who are actors. There's all these viral clips
of guys that just can't throw a football. It's like
they've never had a football in their hand and ever
thrown it. And they're trying to play the star quarterback
or whatever, and they're just at practice and they're like
throwing a football. And you watch it and you say
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that dude has never thrown a football before in his
whole life, like his body at language just all. He's,
you know, twenty eight years old, playing a high school
or college kid, and he's never thrown a football in
his whole That this ad feels like that they thought, Hey,
what do men like to do? They have a random
guy on the bench press, They have a guy standing
by a horse, and I think it's supposed to be
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somewhat satire, but it's not funny enough to be satire,
and it just comes off as you have no idea
what actual normal guys.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Are like that as well, they might as well have
like a borod appearance. It's like I have a big,
strong metaling chest. It's like, what are you doing? Where
are these ads coming from? This makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And also, by the way, the pivot, have you ever
heard a man say, you know, I'm a man and
I strongly believe in a woman's right to choose. I've
never had that conversation ever occur. I know a lot
of men, and I'm not saying that people don't have
a variety of opinions on abortion. That conversation has never occurred. Now,
I think men might sleep with.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, you know what, guys who support abortion say, yeah,
I support abortion. They actually don't say I support a
women's right truth bodily autonomy, like that's not how it goes.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And usually they say it after four beers at the
bar with a girl they're trying to take home. You know,
I'm a big I'm a big abortion guy. Just just
so you know, big abortion guy, you want to hop on,
hop in the car and.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Head a home with me.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean a lot of this is total bs designed
to pick up chicks. When it comes to what guys
say about politics, just FYI, especially single guys.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
I'm a man, I'm a man. I'm a man man,
and I'm man enough.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm man enough to enjoy a barrel proof bourbon neat,
man enough to cook my steak rare.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Man enough to deadlift five hundred and breed out of
my daughter's hair. Do you think I'm afraid to rebuild
a carburetor? How you CARBURETD for breakfast? I'm afraid of bears.
That's what beer hugs move form. I'll tell you another thing.
I sure I'm not afraid of women. I'm not afraid
of women.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'm not afraid of women.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
They want to control their bodies, I say, go for it.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
They want to use ivy. You have to start a family.
I'm not afraid of families.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
They want to be child ass cat ladies, pam all
the cant you want.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Woman wants to be president?
Speaker 8 (04:58):
Well, I hope she has the guts to look me
right in the eye and accept my full throated endorsement.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Because I'm man enough to support women, man enough to
know what kind of doing in the.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Timeline, man enough to admit I'm lost even when I
refuse to ask for directions.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Man enough to not ban young women from reading Little
One or.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
One of those pants books that the sisters like. I'm
man enough to raw doga flight it sucked, not worth it.
I'm man enough to be emotional in front of my wife,
in front of my keeps, in front of my horse.
I'm man enough to tell you that I cry.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
I love actually Goodwill, Hunting, Wish Side Story and Brett,
And I'm sick of so called men domineering, belittling, and
controlling women just so they can feel more powerful.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
That's not how my mama raised me. I love women.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
I love women who support their families, women who decide
not to have families, women who take charge.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And I'm man enough to help them win.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
This hour, we want to spend a little more on
the political side of things. Wall Street Journal poll, for example,
right now lead Trump, Lee, terrorists on economy, and Born
or Clay. They are looking for something right now. It's
very clear they're looking for something to resonate. I think
the problem is that we've actually gone beyond Kamala's lack
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of policy to now with the electorate that is still
in play.
Speaker 9 (06:16):
All Right.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
We're always talking about when I say they don't buy
this or they're not into this, about voters. I mean
the people they're trying to persuade, which is a very
small slice of the country. It's probably in the few
million people range out of three hundred and fifty million.
Forget about Democrats. They'll vote Democrat, they would vote any Demo.
It it doesn't matter. But Clay, when we look at that
small that small slice, and we take what's resenting them
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and try to figure out what works what doesn't. Kamala
is coming across as inauthentic in her beliefs to people.
And this is really interesting. I know they played this
on our friend Jesse Waters show last night, and this
I think got a lot of attention people. This is
in we played the first hour, Barack Obama telling a
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group of black men, guys, come on, we got to
get out there for Kamala and vote for Kamala. We
got to do more. You know, you're not enthusiastic enough.
This is in Brownsville, Brooklyn, New York, a place I've
spent some time. It is the generally poorest and has
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the highest crime rate of any precinct or any area
of the city. It's usually in the top three or
four of all of New York City. It's a rough area.
It's a tough area. They went around to ask people
about this election, and I want you to just to
hear what some of the residents of Brownsville, New York
have to say. Play eleven. Joe Biden's out and Kamala's in.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
What do you think of her?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Garbage?
Speaker 7 (07:48):
Fake phony?
Speaker 6 (07:50):
She's part of the problem of the country.
Speaker 9 (07:53):
God bless her because I don't know what she's trying
to play, but she ain't from the streets.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
If you want to have a terrorist attech, I don't
think she would know what to do.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Trump.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
We already know what Trump would do.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
What would he do?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Trum would get rid of Pamala Harris says she has
the same exact policies as Joe Biden.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Is that what you want?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Why would we want that?
Speaker 9 (08:11):
No?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Because where is it getting us deeper in debt? Deeper
in trouble.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
A lot of people vote because she's black.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You don't vote put nobody because of a color, you know,
TV to double the disguise.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Who are you voting for Trump or Kamala Trump Trump Trump,
It'd be I'm going for Trump.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Go off with Donald J. Trump Trump Trump because he's rail,
Dannald Trump, or wait, look.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Can I just we always want to present things honestly, right, Clay,
the Kama's gonna win the black vote overwhelmingly, but Trump
is doing better with the black vote than any Republican
has based on the polling in in decades. I think
at this point you'd have to go back, you know,
many many elections, but beyond that, when Barack Obama was
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running for election or re election, you would not have
been able to walk around in Brownsville, New York and
find you know, you would have had to look all
day to find one African American resident who was unenthusiastic
about Barack Obama. Right, you know what I'm saying like this,
Oh yeah, you know, this is showing you the black
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community is truly unenthusiastic about Kamala. Even if they're going
to overwhelm the vote for Kamala, it'll make a difference
in this election.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I said, for a while, we bet on it that
I thought twenty five percent or more of black men
would vote for Donald Trump. I'm even more convinced of
that as we sit a little bit over three weeks
from election day, and I know a lot of you
are listening right now.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
In fact, eight hundred and two eight two two eight
a two, I'd love to hear from black men what
you think about Barack Obama lecturing you and telling you
that you need to show up and vote for Kamala
and you're sexist and a misogynist basically, if you're not
willing to.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Vote for her.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I would love to hear from that community because it's
a sign that things are not going well for Kamala
that Barack Obama is being deployed not to try and
rally suburban housewives, where he did very well. Let's be honest,
a lot of white women voted for Barack Obama through
the roofs, a lot of white men too. That's usually
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where he won elections. Now, he had a super high
turnout of black voters, but he never was walking around
saying you should vote for me because I'm black. He
never said that. The fact that he's having to say
it for Kamala Basically, hey, black men, you should vote
for Kamala because she's a black woman, and if you don't,
you're sexist and your behaving in a misogynistic fashion. I
think it's an insult. And I think there's a lot
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of people out there listening to us who are black
men that feel this. We've had, like Byron Donald's on
the show quite a lot. I think there's been a
substantial outreach. What's actually surprised me, Buck is not the
black male response. It's that I think there's going to
be a lot of black women voting for Donald Trump too.
And look, the overwhelming male electorate that is going to
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vote for Trump has clearly got the entire Kamala campaign rattled.
We've been talking about their desperate attempts to try to
appeal to me in I mean, I think they're recognizing
now that Tim Walls calling him coach Walls and having
his football team show up and sending him to Friday
night football games. People don't buy it. I loved Buck.
I'm gonna be at a game tomorrow. I'm gonna go
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to the Florida Tennessee game. Just because you're walking around
in a cowboy boots or you're walking around in camouflage hats.
Doesn't mean that people are going to look at you
and be like, oh, you've got my politics too. In fact,
people can see phonies. And I think Tim Walls is
an incredibly inauthentic figure, as is Kamala Harris and a
lot of people don't agree with everything Donald Trump says,
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but they believe that he believes what he's saying, and
oftentimes that's the most important thing when it comes to
connecting with voters. They're not gonna expect to agree with
any candidate on everything. You shouldn't, but do you believe
the cam believes what they're saying is an integral part
of any campaign, and Kamala doesn't believe it, And in fact,
Kamala has argued buck opposite sides of every issue.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Here's here's another part of where I think Kamala's campaign
is falling down into into within the realm of what
is possible a route. You know, I think it's getting
I think it's getting pretty bad for them. We all
know that politicians lie. It's probably the ultimate cliche in politics,
like politicians lie, But if they lie so badly and
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so brazenly that everybody knows and it's an insult to
your intelligence, then that's counterproductive.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
If someone says, you know, I'm not going I'm never
going to raise taxes, and you should know they're lying,
but you know they end up you don't find out
to laughter they're actually in office. That's one thing. If
somebody says I'm going to erase taxes and I'm going
to give everybody a million dollars in the economy is
going to be great, you know that's an insult, right,
that's clearly. I think that there are people who are persuadable,
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who are independent voters, who who are somewhat open to
still hearing these closing arguments, who feel like Kamala's obvious
phoniness is an insult to their intelligence. And that's a
very You cannot have mockery and you cannot have disdain
as a politician. If people are really not laughing with you,
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but laughing at you and also feel like you have
contempt for them, You have contempt for the voters and
their intelligence. It's not good. And I think that's where
they are.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I also think it's insulting, and I think this bounces
back against you. It's one thing to make an argument
on policy. Hey, you should vote for me because I
believe the tax code should be X. Or you should
vote for me because I'm gonna do for the criminal
rates out there. Why, whatever your policy is, that's fine.
You should vote for me. And if you're not, it's
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because of something that is wrong inside of you. That
is not an appeal that works. And in fact, I
think it's the opposite, Buck, I think this Barack Obama,
hey men, you should be voting for Kamala Harris, actually
comes off as lecturing. I think it comes off as
not connecting very well from Barack Obama. Remember, part of
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being a really successful politician is being out among the
public on a regular basis, normal people. How many normal
people do you think Barack Obama interacts with on a
day to day basis. Now, Buck, that might make that
argument might play in New York City or la elite circles.
He hasn't been around a regular group of people. I
bet in years, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
All of the servants and staff at his mansion in Hawaii,
his mansion in Martha's Vineyard, and his mansion in DC.
He's in touch with the folks, and.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So I think I'd love to hear from you eight
hundred and two A two two eight A two black
men in the audience, how do you respond to being
lectured by Barack Obama in terms of how you should vote?
Speaker 9 (14:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
How do you think it plays? I think the answer
is poorly. But I think it certainly speaks to desperation
in the Kamala camp with what you're talking about Buck
the numbers not being there in order for her to win,
and there's no way for them to come at this
and turn it around. And also I think they I
think they overestimated how much they could just rely on
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trashing Trump at this stage to move the needle. The media,
the Kamala campaign just flood the airwaves with you know,
Trump is awful at this point. I think we all
have an everyone, I mean I have it, you, I
think Democrats even have it.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
There's this numbness to Trump is the most awful thing ever.
But we've heard this so many times it's clearly not true.
But when you keep everyone in this state of you
know it, heightened emotional response, it creates this form of
paralysis where how can we keep freaking out every day
about Trump? Do you know what I mean? There's an
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exhaustion with this, like, oh, well, look at all like
all the criminal Trump we don't even hear about the
criminal trials anymore.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
All that for what?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
All that for nothing?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I think also buck when they tried to kill him,
and they immediately came out and said, this is abhorrent.
If you really thought he was hitler, you should say, damn,
I'm sorry he missed. And so the inauthenticity of I
called him and told him there's no place in this
for our politics. Wait a minute, you said he's hitler.
You encouraged this, and now you're going to claim that
it's not worthy of the action. If you truly thought
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Trump was hitler, you should say, man, I wish that
guy hadn't missed. I wish the guy got him on
the golf course. Be at least honest. I think a
lot of people are seeing that that is totally a
political ploy, and even the people deploying it don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Trump got shot in the ear at a rally an
inch from his skull, which would have killed him, and
while he was bleeding out on or bleeding on stage,
he put his fist in the air and said, fight
and Democrats are sitting around saying between Trump and Kamala,
why do we not understand the masculinity gap here? I mean,
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are you kidding me? Or is is that even really
a question?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
What do you think would happened if Kamala had had
aside from the media, which would still be talking about
it as the evidence of how black women are never
safe in America, right, that would be any story this is.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
We haven't said this for Clay. Any Democrat that had
had a bullet whiz past his head or her head
in an assassination attempt, the media would be on an
all out campaign of moral blackmail to say you can't
vote against this candidate anymore. This is about the future
of the country. We have to show that violence will
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have no place in the country if you don't go
along and vote for the person that there's been none of.
I mean, there's the opposite with Trump. They say that
Trump's Trump's rhetoric is causing violence. I don't even know
what universe they live in. I don't know how to
say that this is anything but completely insane.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But this is where they are.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Look, Clay, We're we're just giving the We're just giving
democrats free education here you know, we're just trying to
give them the free political expertise so that they can
understand why their candidate is about to get defeated pretty handily.
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Let me hit you with a thing that's going on
as well that I want all of you to be
aware of. They are branding today, which is October tenth
as Real Women Day x X the double X chromosome
for actual women, not men pretending to be women. And
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I'm speaking at an event in Jackson, Tennessee today with
Marsha Blackburn Buck about saving women's sports. Riley Gaines super Active.
She's been doing fabulous work. I encourage all of you
to just take the time on social media to type
in not a third X, because you gotta be careful.
Then Women's Day, Double X Chromosome Day, a lot of
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women speaking out for the reality of their spaces being
overtaken by men pretending to be women. Credit to all
of those individuals who are acting in such a brave fashion,
and it's crazy that we would even have to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Sundays with Clay and Voss, we.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Bring into the studio here with me in Ashville, Mark
Starling six to nine AM Eastern morning show host here
on five seventy am WWNC, also news director, and Mark,
I just want to start with this, when did you
become aware that this was going to be a major disaster?
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And tell people how many days in a row you
spent this air. This station never went off air. You
guys have continued to communicate with everybody. What should they
know about your experience in the early days of this
hurricane disaster.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
So we kind of had an idea on today. We
were talking to our meteorologist from the Weather Channel and
he said, we've been working with it for ten years.
In that ten years, i've heard him use the word
catastrophic maybe once. He used it twice in the same segment,
and I knew right then, like, this is not a
guy who's hyperbolic. We were dealing with something different. Thursday,
we came up with a game plan. My producer, Tank Spencer,
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he and I were like, Okay, we're going to stay
at the station Thursday night, probably going to be able
to go home Friday night. Storm is going to go past.
I covered hurricanes for most of the fifteen years of
the start of my career. Right about Thursday evening, we
started to realize when things were already flooding and the
storm hadn't gotten here, we knew we were in bad shape.
We had six inches of rain prior to this storm,
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even coming close to North Carolina, which meant everything was
already saturated. It wasn't going to take much to blow
trees over. So we stayed Thursday night. We got up
Friday morning and did the morning show like we normally do,
kind of went through the day, and it was getting
progressively worse and worse, and obviously, you know, by Friday
night it was in full swing. So we had lost
(20:52):
We never lost power. I'm sorry we lost power. We
never went off the air. We lost internet on Saturday
at two thirty six pm.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Right on the nose.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I remember looking to the clock and I remember seeing
our phones go down, and so we had no communication
with the outside world. We had no way to get
any sort of new information. We had no way to
use our phones, we had no cell service. A buddy
of mine happened to be listening over in West Dashville
and heard us say, listen, folks at a we're at
a disadvantage here. We don't have any information. We can't
take your phone calls. We're going to go back to
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regular programming and try to gather some information. He actually
ended up hiking up here. He drove as close as
he could, hiked in with a Ham radio had already
talked to the Ham radio network around here and said, hey,
look Mark, Mark is going to key up the mic.
He's going to try to get all the information he
can from you guys, and then he's going to go
back on the air and he and Tank are going
to relay it to everybody that's listening. And that's how
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we operated for about twelve to fourteen hours. We heard
a noise out in the hallway and we were on
a break, and we stuck our heads out there, and
here are the most beautiful sight I've ever seen, was
tow iHeartRadio engineers with a starlink strapped at their back
coming down the hallway. And I knew at that point
we were okay.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So euon starlink is the reason and you were able
to get back on the internet.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Correct, Correct, So we got back on the internet Saturday night,
and we basically stayed round the clock taking phone calls,
listening to I mean people were scared. No one ever
thought a hurricane would come to western North Carolina, and
Tank and I kind of sat and talked about it,
and we were like, look, it's going to be our
job to help these people get through this hurricane. The
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noises you're gonna hear in the middle of the night
are going to scare the crap out of you. You're
not gonna know what's going on because you can't see anything,
and when you wake up tomorrow morning, it could be
even a scarier site when you look outside. And so
we were really trying to just kind of prep people
for this and like really walk them through step by step.
It's you know, and we kept saying, look, it's okay
to not be okay. This is a super scary time.
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The phone calls started coming in and they started getting
scarier and scarier and scarier. We took a call from
a gentleman who was up on the second floor of
his house with his wife and their seven year old grandson.
He called and we were chatting with him, and this
was literally like minutes before everything kind of went chaotic,
and he says, oh, you know, we're gonna be okay.
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We're We've had flooding here before. They weren't okay. They
didn't make it, and itvled you on. They called us
on the air and they he talked to us and
he said, you know, I've been meeting to clean this
place out. I wanted to kind of downsize. He's like,
it looks like that's going to be taken care of
for me. And within hours they were gone. So we
realized then that we had to have a connection, and
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so we decided that hey, listen, if you know someone
that's missing, call us here at the radio station, give
us their name and address and phone number, and we
will like, we're going to try to crowdsource wellness checks.
So we started doing that and we get a call
from this guy's name is Chris Henderson and he is
an absolute angel, and he said, listen, I'm out here
doing wellness checks. What if we team up together and
we and you start taking the names of the addresses,
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you send them to me and I'll send my team
out there. So we did, and as of right now,
I think we are at like one hundred and forty
eight families that have been reunited with their loved ones.
I think it was like four hundred and twenty eight
people or something like that. And then we started the
iHeartRadio Ashville Chainsaw Gang, and we've got a group of
chainsaw cutters and they literally just go and take houses
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or trees off people's houses and they don't charge them.
This is all stuff that we were able to crowdsource
through the power of radio, and I think that for
us is really what the story is here. When the
TV couldn't do it, the newspaper couldn't do it, there
was nothing online. The only thing left was AMFM radio.
All seven stations stayed on the air simulcasted. When our
team was able to get into the building, the cavalry
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had arrived and we went. We were walled the wall.
I actually got to sleep at home for the first
time last night.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You were sleeping here at the station.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I've been here. I was at the station for fourteen days,
never went home. My wife she wasn't going to evacuate,
and needs to say, I wasn't too happy about that.
Got a call on Friday morning and she said, you
know what, We've had to evacuate. We're at a gas station.
I've got all four dogs and our son Eli. We're
just going to have to ride it out here. There
are actually waves coming cresting over the top of the
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overpass down on the Highway nine in Black Mountain, which
is where we live it and it was one of
the hardest hit areas. And I didn't hear from her
for forty eight hours. And when she did call, we
were on the air and she had actually gone to
a Black Mountain town hall meeting that they had. She
called in and my producer Tanky puts their caller's name
(25:25):
up on the screen and I looked over and I thought,
what is it. Wait, this can't be. She's the only
Brandy I know that spells it with too ease at
the end. And from pretty much that point on, it
was it was waterworks. It was just I was just
so happy to know that they were okay. I have
not seen them since the Wednesday they were evacuated Downstern
(25:48):
lost house with our four dogs, and they're doing great.
They you know, it just we made it out. We
met a lot better than a lot of folks, did.
I mean, we took some damage to our home, but
nothing in comparison to what some of these folks have lost.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Mark. Appreciate you being with us and giving us First
of all, this is just this incredible story about what
you and the station have been through and also been
able to accomplish over the last two weeks. What is
the what are the imminent needs right now? I mean,
what is the focus of these rescue and recovery now? Really,
(26:23):
I guess more recovery efforts currently going forward, Like what
has to happen, what needs need to be met, what's
on the ground doing at all of that?
Speaker 5 (26:33):
So, you know, as far as like supplies that that
have come in, I mean, it has just been it
has been an American outpouring. It's incredible to see the
amount of supplies that we have, and right now we're
really good on supplies. But this is not a short
term situation. Our water system was decimated by about eighty
five percent of it. I think there's eighteen hundred miles
of waterline in Ashville. Eighty five percent of it's gone.
(26:57):
So what we're really you know, what we're really hoped
for is that we can get the water back online
as fast as possible. They're measuring that time off out
of water in weeks and not days. Power is back on.
There's still about a thirty thousand people in Bunkham County,
which is where we are, that is that that are
still without power. It's getting better and better every day.
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But you know, I think what we're worried about in
the long term is we've got cooler weather moving in
and we've got people who used to have homes that
don't have homes. And really, you know, I think the
big thing is is all of these groups that are
on the ground in here, whether they are doing you know,
whether they're doing recovery work or whether they're doing supply work.
We work with a group called Heartswidthands dot org. It's
(27:40):
a local charity. They're based out of Swannanoah, which was
one of the most devastated areas, and strangely, every single
thing around their warehouse was destroyed, but their warehouse wasn't touched.
They have two functions. They feed all of our first
responders hot meals every day, and then they also package
food boxes for pickup and delivery for folks who are
in need in the community. You know, usually hearts with
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hands as they're the ones that are loading up the
trailers and are taken to Florida or somewhere else. I
don't think anybody ever thought it was gonna happen here,
and you know, this storm was so different because of
the terrain. You know, a storm hits Florida, you got
miles of beachline for the water to reced to. There's
nowhere for the water to recede to here. So it
was literally like a thirty five foot wall of water
(28:23):
and debris that came down the French Broad River and
just decimated everything in its path. I mean, there are
there are towns that used to be here that don't
exist anymore. And it's you know, as someone who covered
hurricanes their entire career living in Florida, I've never been
through anything like this before. I mean, the just the
fury that the water has brought to western North Carolina
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is just incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think this is important. I was just talking out
front with a state trooper who came by. We're talking
with Mark Starling, hosts six to nine AM Eastern morning
shows on this incredible story here at five seventy am WWNC.
I forty many things. I asked out front. How long
is this gonna take? He said, this is gonna take
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years to rebuild. So for people out there who haven't
done anything yet, maybe they haven't recognized the severity of this.
There's gonna be a need for help here for months
and months to come.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
If not years. I mean, we're a tourism based economy.
There's only one thing to see here right now, and
that's destruction. Yeah. You know, hotels are not able to
rent hotel rooms because you can't rent a hotel room
without running water.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
So that is pretty much I just don't have running
water still at the radio still, that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah, we've been without water since I believe it was
Friday is when we lost water. Yeah, it's it is.
It's an untenable situation for a lot of people. And
there are people that are leaving. You know, there were
certain places that right after the storm happened and that
they were saying, listen, if you can leave, leave, help's
not coming. And it's like, well, who oh, wait a second. Here,
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these are our communities. We're not going anywhere. And you know,
for what we wanted to do here at the radio station,
at iHeart Asheville was we wanted to show the community that, like,
we can get through this. Yeah, and we've been kind
of repeating this line. Community is the answer to this crisis.
And it is amazing. You know, people have I always
go back to this one phone call and a guy
(30:21):
called in and he says, you know, I've helped so
many of my neighbors today and I didn't even ask you.
They voted for first And it's just kind of that,
like everything else outside of Western North Carolina, everything else
doesn't matter right now. Like our job as a station
and as a group of stations and as an airstaff
is to kind of unite our community and bring us
bring everyone together and get through this together. I mean,
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it's going to be a heavy lift. And what we
have seen is the absolute best in humanity in an
absolute horrific, horrific time.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
We asked whether it was appropriate to even try to
come in here. You guys need so much help. This
story was we want you to help get this story here.
You're talking to all fifty states right now. You're talking
to people all over the world, really, but certainly in
all fifty states. What would you ask of them? What
can they do if they're listening right now and they're
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hearing about how bad things are in Western North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Honestly, I would I would recommend giving. Yeah, if you
can give please give heartswithands dot org is again such
a wonderful organization. It's local. All that money stays local
as far as help goes. If you have a skill
and it's and and you feel like it would be worthy.
We need help here.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
You know.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
The cleanup, the cleanup for the most part has gone
pretty well, but there is just so much of it.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
We've got our our chainsaw teams from the radio station.
They're running wide open pretty much from six a m.
Until seven or eight o'clock at night. And you know,
the one thing I guess that we don't need is
people coming to Western North Carolina per se to the
to the the heavy disaster zones and kind of clogging
things up. There are areas in western North Carolina that
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are open for business.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Maggie Valley.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I got a call today from a business owner. He's like,
hey man, He's like, I run a knife shop, and
he's like, we're totally open for business here and and
we would really rather you know, like direct people to
us if you if you can't, if they can't hang
out in Nashville, tell them to go come up to
Maggie Valley and see us, or go to Waynesville. And
you know there's a there's some there's some good truth
to that because these other these other areas, they too
(32:27):
are tourist economies.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
This is what happened in Hawaii, right, everybody decided they
didn't want to go to Hawaii, bucking the whole thing.
So one more time that website, and by the way,
what you did, thanks to you and and the sacrifices
that you made for your family. I can't even imagine
what you've gone through talking to so many people in
so many positions of peril.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
This is the best of radio.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
It absolutely is. And I gotta I have to shout
out my team because the team here at iHeart Ashville
is truly the most incredible group of people. They're most
of our staff works on music stations. They're not familiar
with the news talk format. That didn't matter because it
wasn't such a so much of a formatic thing. It
was we just need to be able to show people
(33:11):
that we're here to and we care and we're gonna
help you one way or the other. If we can't
help you, we will find someone to help you. And
that's how it's worked out. And the community has answered
those calls and said, hey, you know what, I can
go over there and check on this guy. You know,
I'm on my way to my next appointment. I'll stop
by and make sure that they're okay. It's the power
(33:31):
of radio, and it is the power of this iHeartRadio
Ashville team. They are just such an incredible group of humans.
You know, Tank Spencer and I were here by ourselves
for the first portion of the storm because our team
couldn't get here. I don't know if you saw coming
well you didn't see it coming in because you came
it from the air, but coming up our driveways line,
it was lined with about a hundred trees. Every tree
(33:51):
came down, there was no way to get in or out.
It crushed the fence in the front. Once those trees
got out of the way, our team was unstoppable in
and they just they just got it done. And they
have continued to you know, this is our home, this
is our community, and and we we we want to
just see it built back. We know it's going to
(34:12):
take time, and we know it's going to be heavy lifting,
but this is where we call home and Western North
Carolina mountain folks are different. I got news for you
Mountain folk are tough and that we're we will really,
we will rebuild this community. It may not look exactly
like it did. Uh, it'll be better. That's that's the
way I feel. And I feel like our community is
(34:33):
more united today than we ever have been in the
past because of this storm. And if that's the good
that we can that we can pull out of this,
I'll take it all day long.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I want to think again. And if you didn't hear
the full thing, it'll be up on the podcast. We
wanted to share with you what the experience has been
like for people in Ashville and surrounding communities in western
North Carolina eastern Tennessee. UH and Mark Starling, who was
the host that was on with us in the opening
segment of this hour from five to seventy AMWWNC. Buck,
(35:08):
You've talked about this a lot. Radio uniquely connects with
the audience. There are lots of different medias, there are
lots of different ways that people make connections, writing, TV,
a variety of different subjects, but radio at its core
really connects with people. And I thought the stories that
(35:28):
he was sharing in a time of crisis here really
connected with you. In all fifty.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
States and my family in Ashville at the height of
the storm and its destruction, or in the morning after it,
they were listening on that station. Carrie told me before
Clay I even knew you were going to Ashville, said,
you've got to talk to these guys. The iHeart team
in Ashville has just been all hands on deck, not
just to get information out, but also to coordinate response
(35:55):
and rescue efforts. It's an amazing thing. But yes, you
can imagine for people who had their house, you know,
partially carved in by falling trees, surrounded by lethal floodwaters
on all sides, roads either washed away or blocked by trees.
To hear on on AM or FM radio, we know
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you're out there, We're in your community. We're coming for you.
Hold tight. Help is on the way. Think of how
meaningful that is, and it was the only way to
get people.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
That message, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
We want to continue to update you with everything going
on in the world of politics as well. I'm here
in Ashville. You heard, By the way, heartswithands dot org
is a great organization local that you can donate too.
If you were moved by the stories that you heard
being shared by Mark Starling and many others who are
talking to us outside and around the scenes. Here as
(36:53):
I'm in Ashville.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Sunday drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Welcome back in and play Travis Buck Sexton. Shit, oh,
a couple of you wanting to weigh in with the
question of how you reacted to being lectured by Barack Obama.
I asked for blackmle callers who are listening to the
show right now. Tony lives in Long Beach, California now
used to live in Detroit. What did you think when
you saw the story Barack Obama saying, Hey, basically, you're
(37:19):
a sexist, you're misogynist if you're not voting for Kamala
and you're a black.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Guy, well good AFTERNUE guys love the show. And I'm
literally the black sheep of the family. I mean, I
usually go fifteen years one when I go back to Detroit,
but even back then, in two thousand, I was saying,
this guy is not from the hood. He grew up
in Chicago. He was say from Chicago, went to private school.
(37:43):
We just going to Hawaii, And I kept harping that
why are we listening to this individual? And they my
family was my sister attorney, and my family all there.
They just they're still stuck on that Democratic plantation. But
we have healthy debates. But I've never listened to Obama
no matter what he said.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know, do you find so you've been, you said,
a black sheep for a little while, do you find
more support for Trump in twenty twenty four when you
talk to other black voters or do you still feel
like you're a bit on an island in California?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
It's a little bit more, I mean, if not, I mean,
I would say Trump's gonna get about twenty five thirty percent.
So I think it's just only weak men would vote
for Kalala or they don't want to upset their wives.
Most most men would do that. But I've told the
screener my family came up with my daughter's graduation last year.
Fifteen people came with the Roscoe chicken and waffles, and
(38:36):
they had the Obama place. So I said to Calilow,
I said, I'll take the Obama play, which like two
plays of nothing and Hope and a couple of cars.
I didn't get the response that I needed, but I
think you guys would enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Thank you for the call congratulations to your daughter, by
the way, I think it was on the graduation. We
got a bunch of more callers who went a weigh in.
I asked for black men listening to give us their
feedback on Barack Obama basically calling you out if you're
not voting for commle as, saying you're misogynistic, you're sexist
quad in South Carolina. What did you think?
Speaker 10 (39:06):
I thought that was pretty insultant, honestly, because I used
to vote Democrat up until twenty sixteen. When Trump asks
us what we had to lose, you know, I think
that was a much better approaches than making promises they
had no intention on keeping. So I've been voting Republican
ever since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Do you feel any more momentum for Trump among blackmail
voters in twenty twenty four than you did in sixteen
or twenty I'm just kind of curious what you see
and hear in your social network.
Speaker 10 (39:37):
I see a lot of people that I talked to
are like, actually really loud about Trump, and if they
hear other people insulting them, they're actually quick to jump
in and defend them.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
That's interesting, and you feel that's different than it may
have been in sixteen when you were coming on board
the Trump train.
Speaker 10 (39:54):
I mean in sixteen, it seemed more like people with
tiptoeing around it. Nobody really wanted to say out loud. Yeah,
so you know, it was one of the few people
in my circle that didn't care what people thought about it.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
So well, join the club. Thank you for the caalk one.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
That's one of the things you had to do, certainly
early on and even today, you have to be willing
to take some slings and arrows to and not necessarily
care what other people say. Javon and can't know. Hyo,
what are you hearing? What'd you think of what Obama said?
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Fellows?
Speaker 9 (40:25):
Let me tell you this, this is the most insulting
thing ever. All right, just because I'm black, you mean
to kut me because this man is the same skin color,
I'm supposed to vote for this person. No, that's not
how it works. That's called getting oaky dope. And you
know what our people been getting played for a long time.
All the brothers and sisters out there, I hope you
(40:46):
understand this. That is the party of slavery. Joe Biden
was a party of segregation. They are the party of
all these clinics. You know, these young ladies go to
these clinics. Party of Margaret's. Is that her name? I
believe I'm may mispronounced. But let me tell you this,
I don't care if it's Charlemagne to God. I don't
(41:08):
care if you're an athlete. I don't care who you are.
Just because your skin's the same color does not mean
that that is the reason I got to vote for you.
Let me tell you this. Everybody, listen up. Donald Trump
does what he says, says what he does, and it's
the thing in the street. Take off this. He keeps
it one hundred percent real.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Just like he spoke about with the Detroit crowd.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
He's keeping it real and that's why we respect him,
and that's why I'm going to vote for it.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Thank you for the call. I lock last one of
the day, West Palm Beach, Florida. What do you think
about Obama?
Speaker 7 (41:45):
I feel it's very disrespectful and it's very very insulting
for Obama to come out with a nam lecture US
or we should go and vote. We vote on principal.
So that's what I wanted to say. And I also
want to say, Buck, I wanted to see in that
red bib when you give Jesse Kelly that lobster.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Oh, thank you for the Locks. I promise you. I
have not forgotten my bet with Jesse. Locks is paying
attention to that one too. I have to go take
Jesse Kelly. It's so funny. I had to take Clay
to a place where they brought his stakeout in a
gold case and there was a whole song and dance,
literal song and dance around it.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Jesse.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
No, no, Jesse just wants red lobster. He did say
all you can eat shrimp part of it. And I
have to put a lobster bib on him on video.
So Jesse Kelly shout out to you. You got to
come down to Florida. There are red lobsters in Florida.
And I will, I will, I will make good on
this bet. Locks. I got you on that one.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I promise Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck
Bold rever It and occasionally random the Sunday hang with
playing Fuck podcast and it starts. Now, you don't want.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
To end up in one of these com lads.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
They're like, yeah, I like guns and muscles and show tunes.
I mean, it's a little weird what they've got going on.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It reminds me, but not in a funny way of
remember forty year old Virgin when he starts talking about
how he likes women's body parts, and everybody just starts
getting like really uncomfortable because it's clear that he hasn't
ever been around a woman. And that's kind of how
I would say men who are pretending to vote for
(00:41):
Kamala are when it comes to their masculinity, they are
very divorced from what it is to be a man,
unlike our Crocket Coffee drinkers who are loaded with masculinity.
And also, by the way, you can get a copy
of my book if you use the code book at
Crocketcoffee dot com.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I want to know how much how much.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Would you have to get paid to appear in a
men for kamala ad?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Is there a dollar retirement retirement level?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Money?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Like it would have to be like I never have
to work again.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You would you would just never be able to be
seen again, like you would do the ad and then
you would just vanish.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I'm actually surprised by this, I guess because they want
to appeal to the folks, you know, as democrats, the folks.
But I think that the obvious move, for the more
obvious move would be to have you know, one of
these one of these actors who's taking like, you know,
a thousand milligrams of testosterone a week and some HGH
or whatever is super jacked at least while they're making
(01:38):
the movie, and they tell everybody they just like, have
a great trainer and do push ups. Have one of
them come forward and be like, oh, like I am
thour and like I love Kamala Harris. You know, but
I guess they want they don't want the Hollywood elite thing,
so instead they've got these guys Like That's what I
thought they would do for the masculinity problem, but maybe
that would seem too phony to them, so instead they
have guys who are coming forward. I mean, I'll you know.
(02:00):
Ryan Gradusky said this in response to this ad on
X on Twitter. He's like, could they find somebody who
doesn't seem like they have a testosterone deficiency to be
the exemplar of masculinity. That's a fair point. I don't
know why they can't get this right, but I think
maybe they've just so many of the guys in the
Democrat Party have been so just hectored by feminists that
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they're terrified.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I don't know, you're not.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
A football guy, but it always makes me laugh when
they do football and they have people who can't throw
a football who are actors. There's all these viral clips
of guys that just can't throw a football. It's like
they've never had a football in their hand and ever
thrown it. And they're trying to play the star quarterback
or whatever, and they're just at practice and they're like
throwing a football. And you watch it and you say
(02:49):
that dude has never thrown a football before in his
whole life, like his body at language just all. He's,
you know, twenty eight years old, playing a high school
or college kid, and he's never thrown a football in
his whole That this ad feels like that they thought, Hey,
what do men like to do? They have a random
guy on the bench press, They have a guy standing
by a horse, and I think it's supposed to be
(03:11):
somewhat satire, but it's not funny enough to be satire,
and it just comes off as you have no idea
what actual normal guys.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Are like that as well, they might as well have
like a borod appearance. It's like I have a big,
strong metaling chest. It's like, what are you doing? Where
are these ads coming from? This makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And also, by the way, the pivot, have you ever
heard a man say, you know, I'm a man and
I strongly believe in a woman's right to choose. I've
never had that conversation ever occur. I know a lot
of men, and I'm not saying that people don't have
a variety of opinions on abortion. That conversation has never occurred. Now,
I think men might sleep with.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, you know what, guys who support abortion say, yeah,
I support abortion. They actually don't say I support a
women's right truth bodily autonomy, like that's not how it goes.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And usually they say it after four beers at the
bar with a girl they're trying to take home. You know,
I'm a big I'm a big abortion guy. Just just
so you know, big abortion guy, you want to hop on,
hop in the car and.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Head a home with me.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean a lot of this is total bs designed
to pick up chicks. When it comes to what guys
say about politics, just FYI, especially single guys.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
I'm a man, I'm a man. I'm a man man,
and I'm man enough.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm man enough to enjoy a barrel proof bourbon neat,
man enough to cook my steak rare.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Man enough to deadlift five hundred and breed out of
my daughter's hair. Do you think I'm afraid to rebuild
a carburetor? How you CARBURETD for breakfast? I'm afraid of bears.
That's what beer hugs move form. I'll tell you another thing.
I sure I'm not afraid of women. I'm not afraid
of women.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'm not afraid of women.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
They want to control their bodies, I say, go for it.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
They want to use ivy. You have to start a family.
I'm not afraid of families.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
They want to be child ass cat ladies, pam all
the cant you want.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Woman wants to be president?
Speaker 8 (04:58):
Well, I hope she has the guts to look me
right in the eye and accept my full throated endorsement.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Because I'm man enough to support women, man enough to
know what kind of doing in the.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Timeline, man enough to admit I'm lost even when I
refuse to ask for directions.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Man enough to not ban young women from reading Little
One or.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
One of those pants books that the sisters like. I'm
man enough to raw doga flight it sucked, not worth it.
I'm man enough to be emotional in front of my wife,
in front of my keeps, in front of my horse.
I'm man enough to tell you that I cry.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
I love actually Goodwill, Hunting, Wish Side Story and Brett,
And I'm sick of so called men domineering, belittling, and
controlling women just so they can feel more powerful.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
That's not how my mama raised me. I love women.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
I love women who support their families, women who decide
not to have families, women who take charge.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And I'm man enough to help them win.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
This hour, we want to spend a little more on
the political side of things. Wall Street Journal poll, for example,
right now lead Trump, Lee, terrorists on economy, and Born
or Clay. They are looking for something right now. It's
very clear they're looking for something to resonate. I think
the problem is that we've actually gone beyond Kamala's lack
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of policy to now with the electorate that is still
in play.
Speaker 9 (06:16):
All Right.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
We're always talking about when I say they don't buy
this or they're not into this, about voters. I mean
the people they're trying to persuade, which is a very
small slice of the country. It's probably in the few
million people range out of three hundred and fifty million.
Forget about Democrats. They'll vote Democrat, they would vote any Demo.
It it doesn't matter. But Clay, when we look at that
small that small slice, and we take what's resenting them
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and try to figure out what works what doesn't. Kamala
is coming across as inauthentic in her beliefs to people.
And this is really interesting. I know they played this
on our friend Jesse Waters show last night, and this
I think got a lot of attention people. This is
in we played the first hour, Barack Obama telling a
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group of black men, guys, come on, we got to
get out there for Kamala and vote for Kamala. We
got to do more. You know, you're not enthusiastic enough.
This is in Brownsville, Brooklyn, New York, a place I've
spent some time. It is the generally poorest and has
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the highest crime rate of any precinct or any area
of the city. It's usually in the top three or
four of all of New York City. It's a rough area.
It's a tough area. They went around to ask people
about this election, and I want you to just to
hear what some of the residents of Brownsville, New York
have to say. Play eleven. Joe Biden's out and Kamala's in.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
What do you think of her?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Garbage?
Speaker 7 (07:48):
Fake phony?
Speaker 6 (07:50):
She's part of the problem of the country.
Speaker 9 (07:53):
God bless her because I don't know what she's trying
to play, but she ain't from the streets.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
If you want to have a terrorist attech, I don't
think she would know what to do.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Trump.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
We already know what Trump would do.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
What would he do?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Trum would get rid of Pamala Harris says she has
the same exact policies as Joe Biden.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Is that what you want?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Why would we want that?
Speaker 9 (08:11):
No?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Because where is it getting us deeper in debt? Deeper
in trouble.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
A lot of people vote because she's black.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You don't vote put nobody because of a color, you know,
TV to double the disguise.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Who are you voting for Trump or Kamala Trump Trump Trump,
It'd be I'm going for Trump.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Go off with Donald J. Trump Trump Trump because he's rail,
Dannald Trump, or wait, look.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Can I just we always want to present things honestly, right, Clay,
the Kama's gonna win the black vote overwhelmingly, but Trump
is doing better with the black vote than any Republican
has based on the polling in in decades. I think
at this point you'd have to go back, you know,
many many elections, but beyond that, when Barack Obama was
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running for election or re election, you would not have
been able to walk around in Brownsville, New York and
find you know, you would have had to look all
day to find one African American resident who was unenthusiastic
about Barack Obama. Right, you know what I'm saying like this,
Oh yeah, you know, this is showing you the black
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community is truly unenthusiastic about Kamala. Even if they're going
to overwhelm the vote for Kamala, it'll make a difference
in this election.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I said, for a while, we bet on it that
I thought twenty five percent or more of black men
would vote for Donald Trump. I'm even more convinced of
that as we sit a little bit over three weeks
from election day, and I know a lot of you
are listening right now.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
In fact, eight hundred and two eight two two eight
a two, I'd love to hear from black men what
you think about Barack Obama lecturing you and telling you
that you need to show up and vote for Kamala
and you're sexist and a misogynist basically, if you're not
willing to.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Vote for her.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I would love to hear from that community because it's
a sign that things are not going well for Kamala
that Barack Obama is being deployed not to try and
rally suburban housewives, where he did very well. Let's be honest,
a lot of white women voted for Barack Obama through
the roofs, a lot of white men too. That's usually
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where he won elections. Now, he had a super high
turnout of black voters, but he never was walking around
saying you should vote for me because I'm black. He
never said that. The fact that he's having to say
it for Kamala Basically, hey, black men, you should vote
for Kamala because she's a black woman, and if you don't,
you're sexist and your behaving in a misogynistic fashion. I
think it's an insult. And I think there's a lot
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of people out there listening to us who are black
men that feel this. We've had, like Byron Donald's on
the show quite a lot. I think there's been a
substantial outreach. What's actually surprised me, Buck is not the
black male response. It's that I think there's going to
be a lot of black women voting for Donald Trump too.
And look, the overwhelming male electorate that is going to
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vote for Trump has clearly got the entire Kamala campaign rattled.
We've been talking about their desperate attempts to try to
appeal to me in I mean, I think they're recognizing
now that Tim Walls calling him coach Walls and having
his football team show up and sending him to Friday
night football games. People don't buy it. I loved Buck.
I'm gonna be at a game tomorrow. I'm gonna go
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to the Florida Tennessee game. Just because you're walking around
in a cowboy boots or you're walking around in camouflage hats.
Doesn't mean that people are going to look at you
and be like, oh, you've got my politics too. In fact,
people can see phonies. And I think Tim Walls is
an incredibly inauthentic figure, as is Kamala Harris and a
lot of people don't agree with everything Donald Trump says,
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but they believe that he believes what he's saying, and
oftentimes that's the most important thing when it comes to
connecting with voters. They're not gonna expect to agree with
any candidate on everything. You shouldn't, but do you believe
the cam believes what they're saying is an integral part
of any campaign, and Kamala doesn't believe it, And in fact,
Kamala has argued buck opposite sides of every issue.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Here's here's another part of where I think Kamala's campaign
is falling down into into within the realm of what
is possible a route. You know, I think it's getting
I think it's getting pretty bad for them. We all
know that politicians lie. It's probably the ultimate cliche in politics,
like politicians lie, But if they lie so badly and
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so brazenly that everybody knows and it's an insult to
your intelligence, then that's counterproductive.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
If someone says, you know, I'm not going I'm never
going to raise taxes, and you should know they're lying,
but you know they end up you don't find out
to laughter they're actually in office. That's one thing. If
somebody says I'm going to erase taxes and I'm going
to give everybody a million dollars in the economy is
going to be great, you know that's an insult, right,
that's clearly. I think that there are people who are persuadable,
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who are independent voters, who who are somewhat open to
still hearing these closing arguments, who feel like Kamala's obvious
phoniness is an insult to their intelligence. And that's a
very You cannot have mockery and you cannot have disdain
as a politician. If people are really not laughing with you,
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but laughing at you and also feel like you have
contempt for them, You have contempt for the voters and
their intelligence. It's not good. And I think that's where
they are.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I also think it's insulting, and I think this bounces
back against you. It's one thing to make an argument
on policy. Hey, you should vote for me because I
believe the tax code should be X. Or you should
vote for me because I'm gonna do for the criminal
rates out there. Why, whatever your policy is, that's fine.
You should vote for me. And if you're not, it's
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because of something that is wrong inside of you. That
is not an appeal that works. And in fact, I
think it's the opposite, Buck, I think this Barack Obama,
hey men, you should be voting for Kamala Harris, actually
comes off as lecturing. I think it comes off as
not connecting very well from Barack Obama. Remember, part of
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being a really successful politician is being out among the
public on a regular basis, normal people. How many normal
people do you think Barack Obama interacts with on a
day to day basis. Now, Buck, that might make that
argument might play in New York City or la elite circles.
He hasn't been around a regular group of people. I
bet in years, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
All of the servants and staff at his mansion in Hawaii,
his mansion in Martha's Vineyard, and his mansion in DC.
He's in touch with the folks, and.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So I think I'd love to hear from you eight
hundred and two A two two eight A two black
men in the audience, how do you respond to being
lectured by Barack Obama in terms of how you should vote?
Speaker 9 (14:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
How do you think it plays? I think the answer
is poorly. But I think it certainly speaks to desperation
in the Kamala camp with what you're talking about Buck
the numbers not being there in order for her to win,
and there's no way for them to come at this
and turn it around. And also I think they I
think they overestimated how much they could just rely on
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trashing Trump at this stage to move the needle. The media,
the Kamala campaign just flood the airwaves with you know,
Trump is awful at this point. I think we all
have an everyone, I mean I have it, you, I
think Democrats even have it.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
There's this numbness to Trump is the most awful thing ever.
But we've heard this so many times it's clearly not true.
But when you keep everyone in this state of you
know it, heightened emotional response, it creates this form of
paralysis where how can we keep freaking out every day
about Trump? Do you know what I mean? There's an
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exhaustion with this, like, oh, well, look at all like
all the criminal Trump we don't even hear about the
criminal trials anymore.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
All that for what?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
All that for nothing?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I think also buck when they tried to kill him,
and they immediately came out and said, this is abhorrent.
If you really thought he was hitler, you should say, damn,
I'm sorry he missed. And so the inauthenticity of I
called him and told him there's no place in this
for our politics. Wait a minute, you said he's hitler.
You encouraged this, and now you're going to claim that
it's not worthy of the action. If you truly thought
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Trump was hitler, you should say, man, I wish that
guy hadn't missed. I wish the guy got him on
the golf course. Be at least honest. I think a
lot of people are seeing that that is totally a
political ploy, and even the people deploying it don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Trump got shot in the ear at a rally an
inch from his skull, which would have killed him, and
while he was bleeding out on or bleeding on stage,
he put his fist in the air and said, fight
and Democrats are sitting around saying between Trump and Kamala,
why do we not understand the masculinity gap here? I mean,
(16:58):
are you kidding me? Or is is that even really
a question?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
What do you think would happened if Kamala had had
aside from the media, which would still be talking about
it as the evidence of how black women are never
safe in America, right, that would be any story this is.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
We haven't said this for Clay. Any Democrat that had
had a bullet whiz past his head or her head
in an assassination attempt, the media would be on an
all out campaign of moral blackmail to say you can't
vote against this candidate anymore. This is about the future
of the country. We have to show that violence will
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have no place in the country if you don't go
along and vote for the person that there's been none of.
I mean, there's the opposite with Trump. They say that
Trump's Trump's rhetoric is causing violence. I don't even know
what universe they live in. I don't know how to
say that this is anything but completely insane.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But this is where they are.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Look, Clay, We're we're just giving the We're just giving
democrats free education here you know, we're just trying to
give them the free political expertise so that they can
understand why their candidate is about to get defeated pretty handily.
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Let me hit you with a thing that's going on
as well that I want all of you to be
aware of. They are branding today, which is October tenth
as Real Women Day x X the double X chromosome
for actual women, not men pretending to be women. And
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I'm speaking at an event in Jackson, Tennessee today with
Marsha Blackburn Buck about saving women's sports. Riley Gaines super Active.
She's been doing fabulous work. I encourage all of you
to just take the time on social media to type
in not a third X, because you gotta be careful.
Then Women's Day, Double X Chromosome Day, a lot of
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women speaking out for the reality of their spaces being
overtaken by men pretending to be women. Credit to all
of those individuals who are acting in such a brave fashion,
and it's crazy that we would even have to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Sundays with Clay and Voss, we.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Bring into the studio here with me in Ashville, Mark
Starling six to nine AM Eastern morning show host here
on five seventy am WWNC, also news director, and Mark,
I just want to start with this, when did you
become aware that this was going to be a major disaster?
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And tell people how many days in a row you
spent this air. This station never went off air. You
guys have continued to communicate with everybody. What should they
know about your experience in the early days of this
hurricane disaster.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
So we kind of had an idea on today. We
were talking to our meteorologist from the Weather Channel and
he said, we've been working with it for ten years.
In that ten years, i've heard him use the word
catastrophic maybe once. He used it twice in the same segment,
and I knew right then, like, this is not a
guy who's hyperbolic. We were dealing with something different. Thursday,
we came up with a game plan. My producer, Tank Spencer,
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he and I were like, Okay, we're going to stay
at the station Thursday night, probably going to be able
to go home Friday night. Storm is going to go past.
I covered hurricanes for most of the fifteen years of
the start of my career. Right about Thursday evening, we
started to realize when things were already flooding and the
storm hadn't gotten here, we knew we were in bad shape.
We had six inches of rain prior to this storm,
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even coming close to North Carolina, which meant everything was
already saturated. It wasn't going to take much to blow
trees over. So we stayed Thursday night. We got up
Friday morning and did the morning show like we normally do,
kind of went through the day, and it was getting
progressively worse and worse, and obviously, you know, by Friday
night it was in full swing. So we had lost
(20:52):
We never lost power. I'm sorry we lost power. We
never went off the air. We lost internet on Saturday
at two thirty six pm.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Right on the nose.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I remember looking to the clock and I remember seeing
our phones go down, and so we had no communication
with the outside world. We had no way to get
any sort of new information. We had no way to
use our phones, we had no cell service. A buddy
of mine happened to be listening over in West Dashville
and heard us say, listen, folks at a we're at
a disadvantage here. We don't have any information. We can't
take your phone calls. We're going to go back to
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regular programming and try to gather some information. He actually
ended up hiking up here. He drove as close as
he could, hiked in with a Ham radio had already
talked to the Ham radio network around here and said, hey,
look Mark, Mark is going to key up the mic.
He's going to try to get all the information he
can from you guys, and then he's going to go
back on the air and he and Tank are going
to relay it to everybody that's listening. And that's how
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we operated for about twelve to fourteen hours. We heard
a noise out in the hallway and we were on
a break, and we stuck our heads out there, and
here are the most beautiful sight I've ever seen, was
tow iHeartRadio engineers with a starlink strapped at their back
coming down the hallway. And I knew at that point
we were okay.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So euon starlink is the reason and you were able
to get back on the internet.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Correct, Correct, So we got back on the internet Saturday night,
and we basically stayed round the clock taking phone calls,
listening to I mean people were scared. No one ever
thought a hurricane would come to western North Carolina, and
Tank and I kind of sat and talked about it,
and we were like, look, it's going to be our
job to help these people get through this hurricane. The
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noises you're gonna hear in the middle of the night
are going to scare the crap out of you. You're
not gonna know what's going on because you can't see anything,
and when you wake up tomorrow morning, it could be
even a scarier site when you look outside. And so
we were really trying to just kind of prep people
for this and like really walk them through step by step.
It's you know, and we kept saying, look, it's okay
to not be okay. This is a super scary time.
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The phone calls started coming in and they started getting
scarier and scarier and scarier. We took a call from
a gentleman who was up on the second floor of
his house with his wife and their seven year old grandson.
He called and we were chatting with him, and this
was literally like minutes before everything kind of went chaotic,
and he says, oh, you know, we're gonna be okay.
(23:05):
We're We've had flooding here before. They weren't okay. They
didn't make it, and itvled you on. They called us
on the air and they he talked to us and
he said, you know, I've been meeting to clean this
place out. I wanted to kind of downsize. He's like,
it looks like that's going to be taken care of
for me. And within hours they were gone. So we
realized then that we had to have a connection, and
(23:27):
so we decided that hey, listen, if you know someone
that's missing, call us here at the radio station, give
us their name and address and phone number, and we
will like, we're going to try to crowdsource wellness checks.
So we started doing that and we get a call
from this guy's name is Chris Henderson and he is
an absolute angel, and he said, listen, I'm out here
doing wellness checks. What if we team up together and
we and you start taking the names of the addresses,
(23:50):
you send them to me and I'll send my team
out there. So we did, and as of right now,
I think we are at like one hundred and forty
eight families that have been reunited with their loved ones.
I think it was like four hundred and twenty eight
people or something like that. And then we started the
iHeartRadio Ashville Chainsaw Gang, and we've got a group of
chainsaw cutters and they literally just go and take houses
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or trees off people's houses and they don't charge them.
This is all stuff that we were able to crowdsource
through the power of radio, and I think that for
us is really what the story is here. When the
TV couldn't do it, the newspaper couldn't do it, there
was nothing online. The only thing left was AMFM radio.
All seven stations stayed on the air simulcasted. When our
team was able to get into the building, the cavalry
(24:33):
had arrived and we went. We were walled the wall.
I actually got to sleep at home for the first
time last night.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You were sleeping here at the station.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I've been here. I was at the station for fourteen days,
never went home. My wife she wasn't going to evacuate,
and needs to say, I wasn't too happy about that.
Got a call on Friday morning and she said, you
know what, We've had to evacuate. We're at a gas station.
I've got all four dogs and our son Eli. We're
just going to have to ride it out here. There
are actually waves coming cresting over the top of the
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overpass down on the Highway nine in Black Mountain, which
is where we live it and it was one of
the hardest hit areas. And I didn't hear from her
for forty eight hours. And when she did call, we
were on the air and she had actually gone to
a Black Mountain town hall meeting that they had. She
called in and my producer Tanky puts their caller's name
(25:25):
up on the screen and I looked over and I thought,
what is it. Wait, this can't be. She's the only
Brandy I know that spells it with too ease at
the end. And from pretty much that point on, it
was it was waterworks. It was just I was just
so happy to know that they were okay. I have
not seen them since the Wednesday they were evacuated Downstern
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lost house with our four dogs, and they're doing great.
They you know, it just we made it out. We
met a lot better than a lot of folks, did.
I mean, we took some damage to our home, but
nothing in comparison to what some of these folks have lost.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Mark. Appreciate you being with us and giving us First
of all, this is just this incredible story about what
you and the station have been through and also been
able to accomplish over the last two weeks. What is
the what are the imminent needs right now? I mean,
what is the focus of these rescue and recovery now? Really,
(26:23):
I guess more recovery efforts currently going forward, Like what
has to happen, what needs need to be met, what's
on the ground doing at all of that?
Speaker 5 (26:33):
So, you know, as far as like supplies that that
have come in, I mean, it has just been it
has been an American outpouring. It's incredible to see the
amount of supplies that we have, and right now we're
really good on supplies. But this is not a short
term situation. Our water system was decimated by about eighty
five percent of it. I think there's eighteen hundred miles
of waterline in Ashville. Eighty five percent of it's gone.
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So what we're really you know, what we're really hoped
for is that we can get the water back online
as fast as possible. They're measuring that time off out
of water in weeks and not days. Power is back on.
There's still about a thirty thousand people in Bunkham County,
which is where we are, that is that that are
still without power. It's getting better and better every day.
(27:19):
But you know, I think what we're worried about in
the long term is we've got cooler weather moving in
and we've got people who used to have homes that
don't have homes. And really, you know, I think the
big thing is is all of these groups that are
on the ground in here, whether they are doing you know,
whether they're doing recovery work or whether they're doing supply work.
We work with a group called Heartswidthands dot org. It's
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a local charity. They're based out of Swannanoah, which was
one of the most devastated areas, and strangely, every single
thing around their warehouse was destroyed, but their warehouse wasn't touched.
They have two functions. They feed all of our first
responders hot meals every day, and then they also package
food boxes for pickup and delivery for folks who are
in need in the community. You know, usually hearts with
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hands as they're the ones that are loading up the
trailers and are taken to Florida or somewhere else. I
don't think anybody ever thought it was gonna happen here,
and you know, this storm was so different because of
the terrain. You know, a storm hits Florida, you got
miles of beachline for the water to reced to. There's
nowhere for the water to recede to here. So it
was literally like a thirty five foot wall of water
(28:23):
and debris that came down the French Broad River and
just decimated everything in its path. I mean, there are
there are towns that used to be here that don't
exist anymore. And it's you know, as someone who covered
hurricanes their entire career living in Florida, I've never been
through anything like this before. I mean, the just the
fury that the water has brought to western North Carolina
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is just incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think this is important. I was just talking out
front with a state trooper who came by. We're talking
with Mark Starling, hosts six to nine AM Eastern morning
shows on this incredible story here at five seventy am WWNC.
I forty many things. I asked out front. How long
is this gonna take? He said, this is gonna take
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years to rebuild. So for people out there who haven't
done anything yet, maybe they haven't recognized the severity of this.
There's gonna be a need for help here for months
and months to come.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
If not years. I mean, we're a tourism based economy.
There's only one thing to see here right now, and
that's destruction. Yeah. You know, hotels are not able to
rent hotel rooms because you can't rent a hotel room
without running water.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
So that is pretty much I just don't have running
water still at the radio still, that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah, we've been without water since I believe it was
Friday is when we lost water. Yeah, it's it is.
It's an untenable situation for a lot of people. And
there are people that are leaving. You know, there were
certain places that right after the storm happened and that
they were saying, listen, if you can leave, leave, help's
not coming. And it's like, well, who oh, wait a second. Here,
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these are our communities. We're not going anywhere. And you know,
for what we wanted to do here at the radio station,
at iHeart Asheville was we wanted to show the community that, like,
we can get through this. Yeah, and we've been kind
of repeating this line. Community is the answer to this crisis.
And it is amazing. You know, people have I always
go back to this one phone call and a guy
(30:21):
called in and he says, you know, I've helped so
many of my neighbors today and I didn't even ask you.
They voted for first And it's just kind of that,
like everything else outside of Western North Carolina, everything else
doesn't matter right now. Like our job as a station
and as a group of stations and as an airstaff
is to kind of unite our community and bring us
bring everyone together and get through this together. I mean,
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it's going to be a heavy lift. And what we
have seen is the absolute best in humanity in an
absolute horrific, horrific time.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
We asked whether it was appropriate to even try to
come in here. You guys need so much help. This
story was we want you to help get this story here.
You're talking to all fifty states right now. You're talking
to people all over the world, really, but certainly in
all fifty states. What would you ask of them? What
can they do if they're listening right now and they're
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hearing about how bad things are in Western North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Honestly, I would I would recommend giving. Yeah, if you
can give please give heartswithands dot org is again such
a wonderful organization. It's local. All that money stays local
as far as help goes. If you have a skill
and it's and and you feel like it would be worthy.
We need help here.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
You know.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
The cleanup, the cleanup for the most part has gone
pretty well, but there is just so much of it.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
We've got our our chainsaw teams from the radio station.
They're running wide open pretty much from six a m.
Until seven or eight o'clock at night. And you know,
the one thing I guess that we don't need is
people coming to Western North Carolina per se to the
to the the heavy disaster zones and kind of clogging
things up. There are areas in western North Carolina that
(32:05):
are open for business.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Maggie Valley.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I got a call today from a business owner. He's like,
hey man, He's like, I run a knife shop, and
he's like, we're totally open for business here and and
we would really rather you know, like direct people to
us if you if you can't, if they can't hang
out in Nashville, tell them to go come up to
Maggie Valley and see us, or go to Waynesville. And
you know there's a there's some there's some good truth
to that because these other these other areas, they too
(32:27):
are tourist economies.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
This is what happened in Hawaii, right, everybody decided they
didn't want to go to Hawaii, bucking the whole thing.
So one more time that website, and by the way,
what you did, thanks to you and and the sacrifices
that you made for your family. I can't even imagine
what you've gone through talking to so many people in
so many positions of peril.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
This is the best of radio.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
It absolutely is. And I gotta I have to shout
out my team because the team here at iHeart Ashville
is truly the most incredible group of people. They're most
of our staff works on music stations. They're not familiar
with the news talk format. That didn't matter because it
wasn't such a so much of a formatic thing. It
was we just need to be able to show people
(33:11):
that we're here to and we care and we're gonna
help you one way or the other. If we can't
help you, we will find someone to help you. And
that's how it's worked out. And the community has answered
those calls and said, hey, you know what, I can
go over there and check on this guy. You know,
I'm on my way to my next appointment. I'll stop
by and make sure that they're okay. It's the power
(33:31):
of radio, and it is the power of this iHeartRadio
Ashville team. They are just such an incredible group of humans.
You know, Tank Spencer and I were here by ourselves
for the first portion of the storm because our team
couldn't get here. I don't know if you saw coming
well you didn't see it coming in because you came
it from the air, but coming up our driveways line,
it was lined with about a hundred trees. Every tree
(33:51):
came down, there was no way to get in or out.
It crushed the fence in the front. Once those trees
got out of the way, our team was unstoppable in
and they just they just got it done. And they
have continued to you know, this is our home, this
is our community, and and we we we want to
just see it built back. We know it's going to
(34:12):
take time, and we know it's going to be heavy lifting,
but this is where we call home and Western North
Carolina mountain folks are different. I got news for you
Mountain folk are tough and that we're we will really,
we will rebuild this community. It may not look exactly
like it did. Uh, it'll be better. That's that's the
way I feel. And I feel like our community is
(34:33):
more united today than we ever have been in the
past because of this storm. And if that's the good
that we can that we can pull out of this,
I'll take it all day long.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I want to think again. And if you didn't hear
the full thing, it'll be up on the podcast. We
wanted to share with you what the experience has been
like for people in Ashville and surrounding communities in western
North Carolina eastern Tennessee. UH and Mark Starling, who was
the host that was on with us in the opening
segment of this hour from five to seventy AMWWNC. Buck,
(35:08):
You've talked about this a lot. Radio uniquely connects with
the audience. There are lots of different medias, there are
lots of different ways that people make connections, writing, TV,
a variety of different subjects, but radio at its core
really connects with people. And I thought the stories that
(35:28):
he was sharing in a time of crisis here really
connected with you. In all fifty.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
States and my family in Ashville at the height of
the storm and its destruction, or in the morning after it,
they were listening on that station. Carrie told me before
Clay I even knew you were going to Ashville, said,
you've got to talk to these guys. The iHeart team
in Ashville has just been all hands on deck, not
just to get information out, but also to coordinate response
(35:55):
and rescue efforts. It's an amazing thing. But yes, you
can imagine for people who had their house, you know,
partially carved in by falling trees, surrounded by lethal floodwaters
on all sides, roads either washed away or blocked by trees.
To hear on on AM or FM radio, we know
(36:16):
you're out there, We're in your community. We're coming for you.
Hold tight. Help is on the way. Think of how
meaningful that is, and it was the only way to
get people.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
That message, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
We want to continue to update you with everything going
on in the world of politics as well. I'm here
in Ashville. You heard, By the way, heartswithands dot org
is a great organization local that you can donate too.
If you were moved by the stories that you heard
being shared by Mark Starling and many others who are
talking to us outside and around the scenes. Here as
(36:53):
I'm in Ashville.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Sunday drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Welcome back in and play Travis Buck Sexton. Shit, oh,
a couple of you wanting to weigh in with the
question of how you reacted to being lectured by Barack Obama.
I asked for blackmle callers who are listening to the
show right now. Tony lives in Long Beach, California now
used to live in Detroit. What did you think when
you saw the story Barack Obama saying, Hey, basically, you're
(37:19):
a sexist, you're misogynist if you're not voting for Kamala
and you're a black.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Guy, well good AFTERNUE guys love the show. And I'm
literally the black sheep of the family. I mean, I
usually go fifteen years one when I go back to Detroit,
but even back then, in two thousand, I was saying,
this guy is not from the hood. He grew up
in Chicago. He was say from Chicago, went to private school.
(37:43):
We just going to Hawaii, And I kept harping that
why are we listening to this individual? And they my
family was my sister attorney, and my family all there.
They just they're still stuck on that Democratic plantation. But
we have healthy debates. But I've never listened to Obama
no matter what he said.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know, do you find so you've been, you said,
a black sheep for a little while, do you find
more support for Trump in twenty twenty four when you
talk to other black voters or do you still feel
like you're a bit on an island in California?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
It's a little bit more, I mean, if not, I mean,
I would say Trump's gonna get about twenty five thirty percent.
So I think it's just only weak men would vote
for Kalala or they don't want to upset their wives.
Most most men would do that. But I've told the
screener my family came up with my daughter's graduation last year.
Fifteen people came with the Roscoe chicken and waffles, and
(38:36):
they had the Obama place. So I said to Calilow,
I said, I'll take the Obama play, which like two
plays of nothing and Hope and a couple of cars.
I didn't get the response that I needed, but I
think you guys would enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Thank you for the call congratulations to your daughter, by
the way, I think it was on the graduation. We
got a bunch of more callers who went a weigh in.
I asked for black men listening to give us their
feedback on Barack Obama basically calling you out if you're
not voting for commle as, saying you're misogynistic, you're sexist
quad in South Carolina. What did you think?
Speaker 10 (39:06):
I thought that was pretty insultant, honestly, because I used
to vote Democrat up until twenty sixteen. When Trump asks
us what we had to lose, you know, I think
that was a much better approaches than making promises they
had no intention on keeping. So I've been voting Republican
ever since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Do you feel any more momentum for Trump among blackmail
voters in twenty twenty four than you did in sixteen
or twenty I'm just kind of curious what you see
and hear in your social network.
Speaker 10 (39:37):
I see a lot of people that I talked to
are like, actually really loud about Trump, and if they
hear other people insulting them, they're actually quick to jump
in and defend them.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
That's interesting, and you feel that's different than it may
have been in sixteen when you were coming on board
the Trump train.
Speaker 10 (39:54):
I mean in sixteen, it seemed more like people with
tiptoeing around it. Nobody really wanted to say out loud. Yeah,
so you know, it was one of the few people
in my circle that didn't care what people thought about it.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
So well, join the club. Thank you for the caalk one.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
That's one of the things you had to do, certainly
early on and even today, you have to be willing
to take some slings and arrows to and not necessarily
care what other people say. Javon and can't know. Hyo,
what are you hearing? What'd you think of what Obama said?
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Fellows?
Speaker 9 (40:25):
Let me tell you this, this is the most insulting
thing ever. All right, just because I'm black, you mean
to kut me because this man is the same skin color,
I'm supposed to vote for this person. No, that's not
how it works. That's called getting oaky dope. And you
know what our people been getting played for a long time.
All the brothers and sisters out there, I hope you
(40:46):
understand this. That is the party of slavery. Joe Biden
was a party of segregation. They are the party of
all these clinics. You know, these young ladies go to
these clinics. Party of Margaret's. Is that her name? I
believe I'm may mispronounced. But let me tell you this,
I don't care if it's Charlemagne to God. I don't
(41:08):
care if you're an athlete. I don't care who you are.
Just because your skin's the same color does not mean
that that is the reason I got to vote for you.
Let me tell you this. Everybody, listen up. Donald Trump
does what he says, says what he does, and it's
the thing in the street. Take off this. He keeps
it one hundred percent real.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Just like he spoke about with the Detroit crowd.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
He's keeping it real and that's why we respect him,
and that's why I'm going to vote for it.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Thank you for the call. I lock last one of
the day, West Palm Beach, Florida. What do you think
about Obama?
Speaker 7 (41:45):
I feel it's very disrespectful and it's very very insulting
for Obama to come out with a nam lecture US
or we should go and vote. We vote on principal.
So that's what I wanted to say. And I also
want to say, Buck, I wanted to see in that
red bib when you give Jesse Kelly that lobster.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Oh, thank you for the Locks. I promise you. I
have not forgotten my bet with Jesse. Locks is paying
attention to that one too. I have to go take
Jesse Kelly. It's so funny. I had to take Clay
to a place where they brought his stakeout in a
gold case and there was a whole song and dance,
literal song and dance around it.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Jesse.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
No, no, Jesse just wants red lobster. He did say
all you can eat shrimp part of it. And I
have to put a lobster bib on him on video.
So Jesse Kelly shout out to you. You got to
come down to Florida. There are red lobsters in Florida.
And I will, I will, I will make good on
this bet. Locks. I got you on that one.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
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