October 14, 2024 • 32 mins
In this episode, Tudor speaks with Vani Hari, known as The Food Babe, about the dangers of artificial ingredients in our food supply and the need for corporate accountability. They discuss the health impacts of these chemicals, the role of government and politics in food safety, and the influence of celebrities on consumer choices. Vani emphasizes the power of consumers to demand better food options and the importance of educating ourselves and our children about healthy eating. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast Today. I am excited
because I have someone on that I've been following for
a very long time. And she doesn't even realize that,
but years ago I found a Vonnie Harry post and
it was about what was going on with our food.
And I think it was probably when my girls were
a little and I think actually it was before I
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was diagnosed with cancer, and then since I've been obviously
once I was diagnosed with cancer, watching everything that was
going on with our food. And I am so excited
because Ronnie Harry is here with me today. She's better
known as the Food Babe. She's also a New York
Times bestselling author and the founder of Food Babe and
True Vannie. She's become one of the most vocal voices
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leading food activists and leading the charge against big corporations
like Callogg's to remove artificial food dice from their products,
especially those that are going out to kids. Vannie, thank
you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Thank you so much for having me. I love that you,
uh you've been following. That's so cool, because yeah, I
feel like I've been doing this work my whole life.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I know it'll ever end because it's you know, the
feats are so screwed up.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
But that's the thing. That's what I think people don't
know is that there have been people like you who
have been working on It's like we're all just kind
of waking up to it. And social media has really
blown up. And I think that Bobby Kennedy really blew
this story up and kind of paved the way for
other people to come out and go, hey, we've actually
been doing the work for the on this for years.
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And I will just say that one of my relatives
had their daughter is the same age as my oldest daughter,
and so we watched them grow up together and and
this other child started to have seriously bad ticks, like
where debilitating, couldn't get through the school day and you know,
moving ticks in her neck, in her head, in her head, area,
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her shoulders, and it was really really truly debility. And
so her mom went and started doing all this research
like what could this be? And the doctors all immediately said,
put her on this pharmaceutical, put her on this pharmaceutical.
She said, no, I don't think so. And then she
found out food dice can cause this. Removed all food
dice no more tics. I mean, this is serious stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We're eating a chemical, poisonous soup in our food. The
majority of food at the grocery store is full of
these dead chemicals. You know, there's this underlying assumption that
everything that we eat, all the ingredients that you see
on an ingredient label, has been tested by some third
party or the FDA has looked at the safety data
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of these chemicals and rubber stamped it and said it's
okay for use. But that's just not the case. There
are thousands of chemicals that have no safety data that
are running rampant in our food supply. I mean, you've
got one of the main ingredients in McDonald's French fries,
methyl policy loxane, which doesn't have any safety data on
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it whatsoever, but it can be preserved with formaldehyde, which
is a neurotoxin. And we're you know, frying our French
fries here in the United States in this substance, and
they don't do it in other countries. So McDonald's knows
how to make their French fries with less chemicals, and
they choose not to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And that's you know, what's happening. With Kelloggs.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Kellogg's back in twenty fifteen decided to say, you know, hey,
we're going to remove artificial food dice. We're going to
remove BHT from our cereals. And this was celebrated, and
what is your eht? BHT is an indocrine disrupting chemical
linked to cancer, so it's very harmful. They don't use
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it in Europe when they line the packages of cereal
with it here in the United States, so it basically
acts as a preservative so that the bag of cereal
stays fresher longer on the shelf. And this is something
they agreed to remove in twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Fifteen, and they got amazing press on it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
People were celebrating Kelloggs for making this commitment and they
said they would make the changes by twenty eighteen, and
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Rolled around and they didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And they started to create new cereals every seasonal holiday
to target children, like Baby Shark cereal or Disney's Little Mermaid,
or Elf on the Shelf or Peeps. The latest one
is Squish Mollows, which is named after a stuffed animal
both my kids sleep with.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And it's it's so unfair because the kids see it
and they want it.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yes, yes, they see it and they want it, and
they know how to hook children to it today. And
if they're targeting children with these products, they at least
have to take the artificial die out considering they know
that artificial dye causes hyperactivity in children. Because when Europe
twenty years ago looked at the studies and said, you
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know what, we need a warning label on any that
has artificial food dyes that says may cause adverse effects
on activity and attention in children, so parents know that
these dyes could affect their health.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Kelloggs and other.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You know, American food companies reformulated their products without these dyes,
making the exact same product that tastes the exact same
way for people in Europe taking out these chemicals and
using real food chemicals like carrot and blueberry juice and.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Watermelon juice to color their cereals there and.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Continue to use the artificial base dye here which is
made from petroleum and coal tar.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And why why is it cheaper? Like why why would you.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Do about shelf life?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So you know, carrot juice, blueberry juice breaks down faster
on the shelf, right, whereas petroleum coal tar dye doesn't right,
so they again can leave the product back on the
shelf longer. But it also is cheaper to use a
petroleum based dye than a real food die. So's they're
putting profits over our children, over people, They're putting poison
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over people, and this has got to stop.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Uh. They were on the right side of history.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
They were willing to make these changes, but then they
completely backpedaled.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And there's nobody in government.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Right now holding these companies accountable. There is nobody saying, hey,
wait a minute, you said you were going to do this,
and you got all this positive press and it was
national press, and you didn't do it, like you know,
It's like they completely hoodwinked the American public and the
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people like me and the amazing who I call the
food Babe army, the people out there that are not
only care about their health, but they care deeply about
spreading the word about this. Then these of companies, we
just get away with it all the time, and it's
really up to us to hold them accountable. And that's
why I started a petition and now it has over
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two hundred and twenty thousand signatures, and it's something that
I think is really going to be important when I
deliver these on Tuesday, to show that Kellogg's like, you
cannot get away with this, and it'll send a message
across the food industry you cannot get away with this
selling the safer version of the same product to other
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countries and not Americans.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's totally shocking because I think we don't even know
the amount of disease that comes along with these chemicals
that we're consuming every single day. And we have the
highest rate of mental illness. We have kids that are
struggling to focus in class, we have issues that no
other country has, and yet we know that this is
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in our food. And I think you're right. We have
trusted the FDA, but we have also trust did our
elected officials. And you say, there's nobody in Washington that
has fought back on this. We also trusted the fact
that there was an agency that was dedicated to just
making sure that we were safe and that those elected
officials were holding them accountable. But I have to say,
I think this shows the ugly side of politics, the
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dirty underbelly where those companies give money to candidates like
here's what you get to run. Let's not get off
our back. Don't say anything about what we're doing. Okay,
now this is cracked wide open. Nobody can say they
didn't know, because I think this is now one of
the number one topics in this election, and I think
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the next cycle it will be at the very top,
because we have found out that our children are being
poisoned and our families. I mean, I look back at
my family. Years ago, in the late nineties, my grandmother
died of pancreatic cancer. And now they're saying, oh, all
these gut cancers are somehow connected to the fact that
we have all these these chemicals in our food, and
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gut cancers are becoming more and more. You know, you've
got colon cancer, you've got stomach cancer, you've got pancreatic cancer. Well,
two years ago I lost my dad to pancreate a cancer.
I had breast cancer. No one in our family had
had cancers like this before. And when we went to
with my grandmother, they said, oh, this is The doctors
at the time said this is because she had a
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habit of drinking coke and eating oreos when my dad
was sick. No one would say anything about, well, it's
not the food he consume it's not the food. Well,
what do you mean, what is it? I mean we
deserve answers because we know there's an uptick in these cancers.
It has to be what we're eating.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yes, And I really think we need executive leadership on
this issue. And that's why in the Senate I used
my you know, twelve thirteen minutes that I was able
to give a testimony, and I asked for both sides
of the party to joining me at Kellogg's next week
on October fifteenth. And you know, I've been trying to
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reach out to the Vice president's campaign.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I have not heard anything back.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I'm trying to use all the contacts I have and
tweeting her directly, doing whatever I can.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Now on the.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Other side, I have been able to reach other people
in terms of who you know, are connected with Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Like I went on Charlie Kirk yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He said he's talking to Trump and RFK about being
there at Kellogg's, which is just incredible because that's the
kind of executive leadership we need that hold these companies accountable.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Show up when there.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Are hundreds of moms and dads and parents on the
ground doing one of the biggest massive grassroots rally that
we've ever had about the food industry. Right, this will
be groundbreaking on Tuesday. This will make history, and I
really hope that they seize the opportunity to show that
they're serious about these issues.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We need people that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Are at the top talking about this and holding these
companies accountable.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, we'd like to see people
in our state. I mean, I am so grateful that
you are coming here and talking to this company here
in our state. I wish that our governor would get involved,
that Governor Whitmer would get involved. However, yesterday she was
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seeing giving someone a dorito on a social media video
where she had a woman kneeling in front of her
and she's playfully giving her a dorito. I would say
that you've probably found some things in Dorito's as well
that are not so great for kids.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That makes me sad. That's actually.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
The president the Vice president's favorite chip, according to a
video I saw too.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But you know, the.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Doritos here in the United States have MSG and several
different artificial food dies PEPSI COO.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know who owns distribute.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's uh Dorito's uh doesn't do that in all the
other countries, right, they take out the artificial diyes. They're
using real food ingredients over there, So they're just as
guilty in terms of what's happening in the in the
food supply with them. So it's it's we've got to
hold these companies accountable. I mean, to see our leaders
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doing that, it's just maddening. And it kills me because, like,
you know, I saw my governor recently.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And I'm from North Carolina, and I saw my governor.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Like take out one of the you know, elected officials
running for office to like the worst fast food place
here in near Charlotte, you know, And and I was like.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Are you serious, Like this is the.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Op that you want to show, Like this is the
opportunity of leadership when it comes to healthy eating or
real food.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And it's it's it's so sad we live in a society.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Where we're we're being constantly bombarded with these messages that
it's okay to eat these chemicals.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You've got the Kelsey Brothers.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
On the cover of Lucky Charms right now and Cinnamonto's
Crunch and other sugar laden cereals for General Mills, also
with artificial food died. By the way, Lucky Charms is
the second to Fruit Loops in terms of cereal sold
that has artificial food dies. And they're like the lead
you know, athletes at the moment, and they are literally
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on the cover on the face of these these products. Thankfully,
I can't believe this just happened. But in the last
twenty four hours, we have major celebrities saying.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
No, I saw I saw happy too.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
We should boycott Kellogg's and no longer eat them. Kim Kardashian,
Courtney Kardashian, Chloe Kardashian all came out and supported our campaign.
Ellen DeGeneres retweeted and sent a maybe not retweet is
not the right word, but she reposted on Instagram Eva
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Mendez is post where Eva Mendez had done a three
slide story about how she is no longer going to
support Kellogg's anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
This is the kind of activism we need.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
From our influenced you know, celebrities out there that can
reach so many millions of people.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
We really need them.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
To take a stand. And you know, I'll just put
it out there. I guarantee you won't hear one news
story about this. They care more about what celebrities are
wearing than.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They won't because they're sponsors. These are their commercials. They
will not go against anyone who sponsors their television program
or their network, so you will never hear And that's
why they've gotten away with this for so long. And
that is what I love about what you are doing
because it is nonpartisan. It is catching on across the country.
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It doesn't matter what you who you go to vote
for at the ballot box. At the end of the day,
you want your kids, and you want your parents, and
you want yourself and your spouse to be eating something
that is not killing you. I mean, that's the reality
of this. When you say we're being poisoned. It is
shocking to hear that other countries don't do this, and
our kids are getting sicker every day from what we
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put in their lunch box. And it horrifies me. And
to have even Mendez and to have Ellen DeGeneres come
out and say that I looked at that, and I'm like,
you know what, there's probably a lot that two the
three of us don't agree on, but everybody cares about
your health, because the old saying, if you don't have
your health, you have nothing right.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Right, Yeah, you definitely don't.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And so this is, you know, we're at a pivotal moment,
and I just want to say, you know, I'm really
grateful people like RFK came out and took a stand
on these issues, because I know I wouldn't be having
this national platform like I have at the moment. I
know I wouldn't have had that opportunity to go speak
at Senate roundtable and have the national stage to literally
name names and call out the companies like they've never
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been done before in Washington at that level.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And I mean, it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Was just incredible watching the footage of that goes so
crazy viral. I mean, one hundred million views of our
Senate testimonies, every single person in that room, amazing doctors
like doctor Casey Means and doctor Chris Palmer, and it
was just it was four hours of such beautiful conversation
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on how to save humanity, how to get the chemicals
out of the food, what's wrong with the food system,
what's wrong with the healthcare system, how our government agencies
are corrupt, and how they are being funded by the pharmaceutical,
chemical and food companies and how to dismantle that. It
was such a groundbreaking session that really Senator Ron Johnson
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should be awarded a free medal for even you know,
orchestrating that session because again, everybody in that room we
had no ties to industry, right. We were there to
tell the truth. We were there to tell the truth,
and it was a beautiful thing. And you know, I've
been on some podcasts and other you know, conversations this week,
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and it's really interesting because I feel like the legacy
people and it's not everybody, but it's certain people that
have been around for a long time and they were
on one side of the issue all the time in
terms of left leaning or Democrat. They are feeling a
little butt hurt right now that they're not getting the
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stage to talk about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's the best way to explain it.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
And there, and and it's it's a really interesting feeling
where I'm like, wait.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
A minute, isn't this good for the country.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
We've got the Republican Party who hasn't taken up these issues,
who typically historically blocked legislation to handle chemicals in the
in the environment, blocked other legislation about chemicals in food
and other things, calling it the nanny state and all
of that. Right now, we have opened up the conversation.
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Everybody's on board and listening to this. Isn't this the
greatest thing for this country right now? Like Wow, that
should be the sentiment that's coming from that side, and
it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
They're getting snarky. I mean, we've got the.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Atlantic the only by the way mainstream media that covered
the Senate round table calling us the woo woo caucus
and a bunch of influencers in the room. I mean
it was insane. I was like, wait a minute, I've
written four books about this. Okay, thanks for final major
food companies to change their chemicals. I have started my
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own company to change the food industry from the inside out.
Like you could call me anything else. A mother of
two would have been a better label than influencer. They
use these labels to diminish our credibility.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And it was just like, I was so livid that
that what's the kind.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Of coverage we're getting when we should be all coming together.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Shame on them.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And in the past, I think you make such a
great point because in the past, if the left had
owned this issue, it would be on every station where. Oh,
it's come to our attention. But they don't and they
can't because, like I said, the money controls what is
able to be said, and their hands are tied. You
have people, and quite possibly the vice president also has
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her hands tied depending on who has funded her. And
we know that the biggest corporations across the country have
funded her, and so potentially that's why you're not hearing
from her. This is something that we have had people say, well,
Republicans don't care about the environment, they don't care about health,
they're not concerned about climate. All of a sudden, the
tides are turning and Republicans are saying, wait a minute,
wait a minute. We have to be concerned with chemicals
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across the board. We have to be concerned with our kids' health.
I have to say, you started this because you say
I was a candy attic, I drank soda, I never
ate vegeta, I went to fast food, and I was
an unhealthy American. And suddenly I was awoken to the
fact that I was unhealthy. I was sitting at a
volleyball game for my daughter this week, and I was
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noticing that the kids were looking more and more unhealthy.
You look at their parents waiting for them. They don't
mirror their parents at all, because we are feeding our
kids food that we think is healthy. I mean, I
went through based on the things that you've come out with,
and I'm like, Okay, I want to have something that's
made with real food, that has few ingredients, that has
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things that I can pronounce. But then I'm like, I
put chips of some sort in my kid's lunch box
every day, and so i get these, like, you know
what I think are healthy chips, and there are some
multi grain thing and I'm like, oh, okay, this has
three ingredients. This is good. But one of the ingredients
is like sunflower oil, and I'm like, wait a minute,
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is this not good?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I get overwhelmed with how to make this work for
my kids because I see my kids' bodies changing in
ways that children shouldn't have to deal with.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, and it is. You know.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
The thing is is living the real food lifestyle is
not easy.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
We have no easier for people.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
We have to figure out how to dismantle the corruption
so that people learn the truth. Number one about food
and what's been done to it, and what they can
do to break free from the chemicals and food. And
that's why I've written four books about the subject, because
I think it's so important for people to become educated
and have the tips and skill sets that I taught
myself when I figured this out twenty years ago. You know,
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I was still working in the corporate world when I
was figuring this out, and I just had to become
very unconventional. I had to bring my food from Charlotte
and fly up to Detroit. So a little story about Michigan.
Michigan is where food Babe was born.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
It was a time period where I was traveling from
Charlotte to work at Ally Bank, and I was working
for these big sea level executives, and it was flying
back and forth from Charlotte in Detroit for two years,
and I had to figure out how to eat healthy
on the road and find out how to eat healthy
when I went to restaurants and find all the cool
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little places and cafes that I could find near Detroit.
And I found myself driving outside of Detroit to like
Royal Oak, to this amazing cafe no longer exists. It's
called in season. If anybody remembers it, it was groundbreaking
for me, like just all the conversations I had, the
staff there and sitting there, and that is the moment
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where I was inspired to really start food Babe. And
that's when I gave up television and started writing with
the time that I had.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And when I gave up television, that was the best
decision ever.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And Michigan is really near and dear to my heart.
So when I'm there again next Tuesday, I just feel
like this is like this full circle moment of being
back there and holding Kelloggs accountable.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
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you said just now is so impactful for so many
people because we go, we give up. It's too hard,
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we can't find it. And it makes me mad at
the grocery stores because I for me to get die
free died just to make cookies at at the house,
I have to go to the health food store, which
is out of the way, it's hard to get to,
and for me to find putting that doesn't have color
in it. You know, all of the ingredients that you want,
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and it's not None of this is at the regular
grocery store. They do not have a section where you
can be free of all of the chemicals, which is
crazy because I heard someone the other day say, why
is there a health food section in the grocery store?
What's all the other food?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And it's true, but even in the health food section,
you don't have anything free of these chemicals. They're everywhere.
It's very overwhelming, and we do look for Okay, what
can I throw in my kids lunchbox that's going to
fill them up. They're going to get through the day,
but they're not going to be poisoned. It's very hard.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, it is really hard. And so I think the
key thing that people need to recognize they have to
read ingredient labels. Read the ingredient labels, find out what
those chemicals are. If they're there for the purposes of
making the food companies more minde, don't buy that product anymore,
buy real food products.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
How do you know? How do you know why it's
in there?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Well, if you don't recognize it and it's not ingredient
you would find in your own kitchen, then you put
it back. You use your common sense. Right, you don't
have to be a rocket scientist to be know how
to eat. The only people that have made food complicated
in the last sixty years are the food scientists themselves
at these food companies. Right, They've been able to create
these chemical chemicals to hijack our brain. So we remember
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a flavor, and we crave the flavor, and we're addicted
to that flavor. And that's why you know, you won't
find myself like feeding my kid's goldfish, because that's exactly
what the food industry wants you to do. They want
that kid to feel like they have to eat the
same thing all the time and have the exact same flavor,
whereas if I were to give my kid blueberries every
day for snack instead, sometimes they're mealy, sometimes they're sour,
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sometimes they're plump, sometimes they're juicy, sometimes they're sweet, blueberries bery.
And that's the beauty of nature is all of those
sensations that we get in our mouth when we eat
some from nature, our body responds to it. And so
not only do our kids not become picky anymore because
they can handle a lot of different varieties of food,
but they are essentially, of course more healthier because of
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the nutrition that you would find in a blueberry versus
a bag dead goldfish.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That's so funny. My mom is the worst about eating
fruit and healthy food. And she used to say, oh,
I don't like fruit because it can trick you. Sometimes
it's really good and sometimes it's not. Like I love
your take, And I'm totally using that with her. I'm
gonna be like, you do not have a sophisticated palette.
You should be enjoying all the different levels of fruit.
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Because she says that to my kids, I'm like, you're
not hello, grandma, you're not helping stop.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, you know, grandmas are going to be grandma's.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Right, exactly exactly. But you did have some success with
companies like Chipotle they changed their menu correct, So there
is hope for this.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, there is, There is definitely hope.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I mean, again, I think consumer pressure, you know, choosing
a different brand other than Kellogg's when you're going out
there to buy cereal. I mean, obviously don't choose it
because of all of the chemicals in it. But you know,
there's so many other great cereal brands out there. Now,
there's Eat Lovebird, There's Seven Sundays, There's I'm trying to
think there's another one. You know, you could just again,
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my kids have never had cereal. We've always just been
a granola family or an oatmeal family. You know, you
don't have to eat cereal, your kids don't have to
have that. And the most important part to recognize in
all of this is as a parent, you are in
charge of what comes into the house for many, many
years of your kids' lives. You know, at least fifteen
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I would imagine until they can go drive on their
own right, And so for.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Those fifteen years, make your pantry pristine. Get the shit
out of there.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You know, yeah, I mean even gosh, the teenage girls
are obsessed with the coffee shops and these crazy drinks,
and I'm like, we watched a video the other day
of how much sugar and fake syrups and all these
things are there, and I'm like, you, guys, this is
why you have to get over wanting to go get
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these things that are frozen and whipped up and they're
filled with calories and chemicals and like if it tastes
like this, but there's nothing that is come from a strawberry,
and there's probably it's probably not good for you. But
it's really hard. There's so much marketed to our kids,
and now I think more so than when we were little,
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because you know, we had commercials, but they're on Pinterest,
they're on Instagram. It's constantly this is the latest here,
this is the latest at this shop, and it's all
fast food and coffee shops and all these things. It
is a lot of pressure. So you're right up until fifteen,
but I think you can still be educating your kids.
And we need to educate ourselves before we can educate
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our kids. So you have books that we can educate ourselves.
So where can people find the book. How can people
follow you, how can they sign the petition? Because that,
to me is the most important thing, is that we
have enough people to say we're done.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Everything can be found on foodbabe dot com. Just go
straight there.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
The petitions there, the books are there, Everything is there,
all the links. Sign the petition if you want your
name included when I deliver those on Tuesday. And if
you live in Michigan, come out and be with us.
Bring your family, bring your friends, bring your children, show
them what it's like to hold companies accountable for their
lives and for better ingredients, because this is really how
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we're going to change the food system.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Do you think, just ask you one more thing, do
you think that there is a future in the United
States where it is illegal to put poison in food?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I would hope. I would hope.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So I think that's a conversation to have with your
elected official as well. I really think people should start
calling their congressmen and saying, I want you to do
something about this. I want you to get on the
side of health. I mean that how can you argue
with being on the side of health? And I think
that as we've learned this and again I thank you
for everything you've done, because, honestly, it was so overwhelming
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when I first started to research what you were doing
and I found you, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
what are we doing to ourselves? And I think there
was a part of me that pushed it away because
I'm like, I don't know how to fix this. But
you never pushed it away. And I'm so grateful that
you have kept fighting and that you've made these changes,
And that, to me is what people really need to understand,
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that you, as want a single person can do this
and make huge changes. So I'm so proud of you.
I mean, I'm so amazed at what you've done. Honestly,
like what I will say, finding you all those years ago,
I was like, this woman, there's something special and absolutely
you're amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Thank you. That really means a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Absolutely, So all of you out there follow Vonnie Hare.
She does wonderful work. It's a food babe, make sure
you check it out. But also for all of you
folks in Michigan, give us the time. What time should
they be there?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Tenth Yeah, We're going to be made in Battle Creek,
Michigan at ten thirty am.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
At Friendship Park.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
All right, so all of us Michiganders, we need to
get there if you can, take your kids. Take your kids,
because there's nothing more important to your future. As someone
who has lost a grandmother and a father too early
and also almost lost my own life too early, I
believe this is all connected. You don't want to go
through that yourselves, so please check it out. Thank you
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so much, Bonnie, thanks for being here, Thank you, and
thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
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blessed day,
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast Today. I am excited
because I have someone on that I've been following for
a very long time. And she doesn't even realize that,
but years ago I found a Vonnie Harry post and
it was about what was going on with our food.
And I think it was probably when my girls were
a little and I think actually it was before I
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was diagnosed with cancer, and then since I've been obviously
once I was diagnosed with cancer, watching everything that was
going on with our food. And I am so excited
because Ronnie Harry is here with me today. She's better
known as the Food Babe. She's also a New York
Times bestselling author and the founder of Food Babe and
True Vannie. She's become one of the most vocal voices
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leading food activists and leading the charge against big corporations
like Callogg's to remove artificial food dice from their products,
especially those that are going out to kids. Vannie, thank
you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Thank you so much for having me. I love that you,
uh you've been following. That's so cool, because yeah, I
feel like I've been doing this work my whole life.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I know it'll ever end because it's you know, the
feats are so screwed up.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
But that's the thing. That's what I think people don't
know is that there have been people like you who
have been working on It's like we're all just kind
of waking up to it. And social media has really
blown up. And I think that Bobby Kennedy really blew
this story up and kind of paved the way for
other people to come out and go, hey, we've actually
been doing the work for the on this for years.
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And I will just say that one of my relatives
had their daughter is the same age as my oldest daughter,
and so we watched them grow up together and and
this other child started to have seriously bad ticks, like
where debilitating, couldn't get through the school day and you know,
moving ticks in her neck, in her head, in her head, area,
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her shoulders, and it was really really truly debility. And
so her mom went and started doing all this research
like what could this be? And the doctors all immediately said,
put her on this pharmaceutical, put her on this pharmaceutical.
She said, no, I don't think so. And then she
found out food dice can cause this. Removed all food
dice no more tics. I mean, this is serious stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We're eating a chemical, poisonous soup in our food. The
majority of food at the grocery store is full of
these dead chemicals. You know, there's this underlying assumption that
everything that we eat, all the ingredients that you see
on an ingredient label, has been tested by some third
party or the FDA has looked at the safety data
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of these chemicals and rubber stamped it and said it's
okay for use. But that's just not the case. There
are thousands of chemicals that have no safety data that
are running rampant in our food supply. I mean, you've
got one of the main ingredients in McDonald's French fries,
methyl policy loxane, which doesn't have any safety data on
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it whatsoever, but it can be preserved with formaldehyde, which
is a neurotoxin. And we're you know, frying our French
fries here in the United States in this substance, and
they don't do it in other countries. So McDonald's knows
how to make their French fries with less chemicals, and
they choose not to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And that's you know, what's happening. With Kelloggs.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Kellogg's back in twenty fifteen decided to say, you know, hey,
we're going to remove artificial food dice. We're going to
remove BHT from our cereals. And this was celebrated, and
what is your eht? BHT is an indocrine disrupting chemical
linked to cancer, so it's very harmful. They don't use
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it in Europe when they line the packages of cereal
with it here in the United States, so it basically
acts as a preservative so that the bag of cereal
stays fresher longer on the shelf. And this is something
they agreed to remove in twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Fifteen, and they got amazing press on it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
People were celebrating Kelloggs for making this commitment and they
said they would make the changes by twenty eighteen, and
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Rolled around and they didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And they started to create new cereals every seasonal holiday
to target children, like Baby Shark cereal or Disney's Little Mermaid,
or Elf on the Shelf or Peeps. The latest one
is Squish Mollows, which is named after a stuffed animal
both my kids sleep with.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And it's it's so unfair because the kids see it
and they want it.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yes, yes, they see it and they want it, and
they know how to hook children to it today. And
if they're targeting children with these products, they at least
have to take the artificial die out considering they know
that artificial dye causes hyperactivity in children. Because when Europe
twenty years ago looked at the studies and said, you
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know what, we need a warning label on any that
has artificial food dyes that says may cause adverse effects
on activity and attention in children, so parents know that
these dyes could affect their health.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Kelloggs and other.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You know, American food companies reformulated their products without these dyes,
making the exact same product that tastes the exact same
way for people in Europe taking out these chemicals and
using real food chemicals like carrot and blueberry juice and.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Watermelon juice to color their cereals there and.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Continue to use the artificial base dye here which is
made from petroleum and coal tar.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And why why is it cheaper? Like why why would you.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Do about shelf life?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So you know, carrot juice, blueberry juice breaks down faster
on the shelf, right, whereas petroleum coal tar dye doesn't right,
so they again can leave the product back on the
shelf longer. But it also is cheaper to use a
petroleum based dye than a real food die. So's they're
putting profits over our children, over people, They're putting poison
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over people, and this has got to stop.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Uh. They were on the right side of history.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
They were willing to make these changes, but then they
completely backpedaled.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And there's nobody in government.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Right now holding these companies accountable. There is nobody saying, hey,
wait a minute, you said you were going to do this,
and you got all this positive press and it was
national press, and you didn't do it, like you know,
It's like they completely hoodwinked the American public and the
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people like me and the amazing who I call the
food Babe army, the people out there that are not
only care about their health, but they care deeply about
spreading the word about this. Then these of companies, we
just get away with it all the time, and it's
really up to us to hold them accountable. And that's
why I started a petition and now it has over
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two hundred and twenty thousand signatures, and it's something that
I think is really going to be important when I
deliver these on Tuesday, to show that Kellogg's like, you
cannot get away with this, and it'll send a message
across the food industry you cannot get away with this
selling the safer version of the same product to other
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countries and not Americans.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's totally shocking because I think we don't even know
the amount of disease that comes along with these chemicals
that we're consuming every single day. And we have the
highest rate of mental illness. We have kids that are
struggling to focus in class, we have issues that no
other country has, and yet we know that this is
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in our food. And I think you're right. We have
trusted the FDA, but we have also trust did our
elected officials. And you say, there's nobody in Washington that
has fought back on this. We also trusted the fact
that there was an agency that was dedicated to just
making sure that we were safe and that those elected
officials were holding them accountable. But I have to say,
I think this shows the ugly side of politics, the
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dirty underbelly where those companies give money to candidates like
here's what you get to run. Let's not get off
our back. Don't say anything about what we're doing. Okay,
now this is cracked wide open. Nobody can say they
didn't know, because I think this is now one of
the number one topics in this election, and I think
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the next cycle it will be at the very top,
because we have found out that our children are being
poisoned and our families. I mean, I look back at
my family. Years ago, in the late nineties, my grandmother
died of pancreatic cancer. And now they're saying, oh, all
these gut cancers are somehow connected to the fact that
we have all these these chemicals in our food, and
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gut cancers are becoming more and more. You know, you've
got colon cancer, you've got stomach cancer, you've got pancreatic cancer. Well,
two years ago I lost my dad to pancreate a cancer.
I had breast cancer. No one in our family had
had cancers like this before. And when we went to
with my grandmother, they said, oh, this is The doctors
at the time said this is because she had a
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habit of drinking coke and eating oreos when my dad
was sick. No one would say anything about, well, it's
not the food he consume it's not the food. Well,
what do you mean, what is it? I mean we
deserve answers because we know there's an uptick in these cancers.
It has to be what we're eating.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yes, And I really think we need executive leadership on
this issue. And that's why in the Senate I used
my you know, twelve thirteen minutes that I was able
to give a testimony, and I asked for both sides
of the party to joining me at Kellogg's next week
on October fifteenth. And you know, I've been trying to
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reach out to the Vice president's campaign.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I have not heard anything back.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I'm trying to use all the contacts I have and
tweeting her directly, doing whatever I can.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Now on the.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Other side, I have been able to reach other people
in terms of who you know, are connected with Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Like I went on Charlie Kirk yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He said he's talking to Trump and RFK about being
there at Kellogg's, which is just incredible because that's the
kind of executive leadership we need that hold these companies accountable.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Show up when there.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Are hundreds of moms and dads and parents on the
ground doing one of the biggest massive grassroots rally that
we've ever had about the food industry. Right, this will
be groundbreaking on Tuesday. This will make history, and I
really hope that they seize the opportunity to show that
they're serious about these issues.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We need people that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Are at the top talking about this and holding these
companies accountable.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, we'd like to see people
in our state. I mean, I am so grateful that
you are coming here and talking to this company here
in our state. I wish that our governor would get involved,
that Governor Whitmer would get involved. However, yesterday she was
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seeing giving someone a dorito on a social media video
where she had a woman kneeling in front of her
and she's playfully giving her a dorito. I would say
that you've probably found some things in Dorito's as well
that are not so great for kids.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That makes me sad. That's actually.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
The president the Vice president's favorite chip, according to a
video I saw too.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But you know, the.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Doritos here in the United States have MSG and several
different artificial food dies PEPSI COO.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know who owns distribute.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's uh Dorito's uh doesn't do that in all the
other countries, right, they take out the artificial diyes. They're
using real food ingredients over there, So they're just as
guilty in terms of what's happening in the in the
food supply with them. So it's it's we've got to
hold these companies accountable. I mean, to see our leaders
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doing that, it's just maddening. And it kills me because, like,
you know, I saw my governor recently.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And I'm from North Carolina, and I saw my governor.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Like take out one of the you know, elected officials
running for office to like the worst fast food place
here in near Charlotte, you know, And and I was like.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Are you serious, Like this is the.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Op that you want to show, Like this is the
opportunity of leadership when it comes to healthy eating or
real food.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And it's it's it's so sad we live in a society.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Where we're we're being constantly bombarded with these messages that
it's okay to eat these chemicals.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You've got the Kelsey Brothers.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
On the cover of Lucky Charms right now and Cinnamonto's
Crunch and other sugar laden cereals for General Mills, also
with artificial food died. By the way, Lucky Charms is
the second to Fruit Loops in terms of cereal sold
that has artificial food dies. And they're like the lead
you know, athletes at the moment, and they are literally
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on the cover on the face of these these products. Thankfully,
I can't believe this just happened. But in the last
twenty four hours, we have major celebrities saying.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
No, I saw I saw happy too.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
We should boycott Kellogg's and no longer eat them. Kim Kardashian,
Courtney Kardashian, Chloe Kardashian all came out and supported our campaign.
Ellen DeGeneres retweeted and sent a maybe not retweet is
not the right word, but she reposted on Instagram Eva
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Mendez is post where Eva Mendez had done a three
slide story about how she is no longer going to
support Kellogg's anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
This is the kind of activism we need.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
From our influenced you know, celebrities out there that can
reach so many millions of people.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
We really need them.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
To take a stand. And you know, I'll just put
it out there. I guarantee you won't hear one news
story about this. They care more about what celebrities are
wearing than.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They won't because they're sponsors. These are their commercials. They
will not go against anyone who sponsors their television program
or their network, so you will never hear And that's
why they've gotten away with this for so long. And
that is what I love about what you are doing
because it is nonpartisan. It is catching on across the country.
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It doesn't matter what you who you go to vote
for at the ballot box. At the end of the day,
you want your kids, and you want your parents, and
you want yourself and your spouse to be eating something
that is not killing you. I mean, that's the reality
of this. When you say we're being poisoned. It is
shocking to hear that other countries don't do this, and
our kids are getting sicker every day from what we
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put in their lunch box. And it horrifies me. And
to have even Mendez and to have Ellen DeGeneres come
out and say that I looked at that, and I'm like,
you know what, there's probably a lot that two the
three of us don't agree on, but everybody cares about
your health, because the old saying, if you don't have
your health, you have nothing right.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Right, Yeah, you definitely don't.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And so this is, you know, we're at a pivotal moment,
and I just want to say, you know, I'm really
grateful people like RFK came out and took a stand
on these issues, because I know I wouldn't be having
this national platform like I have at the moment. I
know I wouldn't have had that opportunity to go speak
at Senate roundtable and have the national stage to literally
name names and call out the companies like they've never
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been done before in Washington at that level.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And I mean, it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Was just incredible watching the footage of that goes so
crazy viral. I mean, one hundred million views of our
Senate testimonies, every single person in that room, amazing doctors
like doctor Casey Means and doctor Chris Palmer, and it
was just it was four hours of such beautiful conversation
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on how to save humanity, how to get the chemicals
out of the food, what's wrong with the food system,
what's wrong with the healthcare system, how our government agencies
are corrupt, and how they are being funded by the pharmaceutical,
chemical and food companies and how to dismantle that. It
was such a groundbreaking session that really Senator Ron Johnson
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should be awarded a free medal for even you know,
orchestrating that session because again, everybody in that room we
had no ties to industry, right. We were there to
tell the truth. We were there to tell the truth,
and it was a beautiful thing. And you know, I've
been on some podcasts and other you know, conversations this week,
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and it's really interesting because I feel like the legacy
people and it's not everybody, but it's certain people that
have been around for a long time and they were
on one side of the issue all the time in
terms of left leaning or Democrat. They are feeling a
little butt hurt right now that they're not getting the
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stage to talk about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's the best way to explain it.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
And there, and and it's it's a really interesting feeling
where I'm like, wait.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
A minute, isn't this good for the country.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
We've got the Republican Party who hasn't taken up these issues,
who typically historically blocked legislation to handle chemicals in the
in the environment, blocked other legislation about chemicals in food
and other things, calling it the nanny state and all
of that. Right now, we have opened up the conversation.
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Everybody's on board and listening to this. Isn't this the
greatest thing for this country right now? Like Wow, that
should be the sentiment that's coming from that side, and
it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
They're getting snarky. I mean, we've got the.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Atlantic the only by the way mainstream media that covered
the Senate round table calling us the woo woo caucus
and a bunch of influencers in the room. I mean
it was insane. I was like, wait a minute, I've
written four books about this. Okay, thanks for final major
food companies to change their chemicals. I have started my
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own company to change the food industry from the inside out.
Like you could call me anything else. A mother of
two would have been a better label than influencer. They
use these labels to diminish our credibility.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And it was just like, I was so livid that
that what's the kind.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Of coverage we're getting when we should be all coming together.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Shame on them.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And in the past, I think you make such a
great point because in the past, if the left had
owned this issue, it would be on every station where. Oh,
it's come to our attention. But they don't and they
can't because, like I said, the money controls what is
able to be said, and their hands are tied. You
have people, and quite possibly the vice president also has
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her hands tied depending on who has funded her. And
we know that the biggest corporations across the country have
funded her, and so potentially that's why you're not hearing
from her. This is something that we have had people say, well,
Republicans don't care about the environment, they don't care about health,
they're not concerned about climate. All of a sudden, the
tides are turning and Republicans are saying, wait a minute,
wait a minute. We have to be concerned with chemicals
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across the board. We have to be concerned with our kids' health.
I have to say, you started this because you say
I was a candy attic, I drank soda, I never
ate vegeta, I went to fast food, and I was
an unhealthy American. And suddenly I was awoken to the
fact that I was unhealthy. I was sitting at a
volleyball game for my daughter this week, and I was
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noticing that the kids were looking more and more unhealthy.
You look at their parents waiting for them. They don't
mirror their parents at all, because we are feeding our
kids food that we think is healthy. I mean, I
went through based on the things that you've come out with,
and I'm like, Okay, I want to have something that's
made with real food, that has few ingredients, that has
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things that I can pronounce. But then I'm like, I
put chips of some sort in my kid's lunch box
every day, and so i get these, like, you know
what I think are healthy chips, and there are some
multi grain thing and I'm like, oh, okay, this has
three ingredients. This is good. But one of the ingredients
is like sunflower oil, and I'm like, wait a minute,
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is this not good?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I get overwhelmed with how to make this work for
my kids because I see my kids' bodies changing in
ways that children shouldn't have to deal with.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, and it is. You know.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
The thing is is living the real food lifestyle is
not easy.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
We have no easier for people.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
We have to figure out how to dismantle the corruption
so that people learn the truth. Number one about food
and what's been done to it, and what they can
do to break free from the chemicals and food. And
that's why I've written four books about the subject, because
I think it's so important for people to become educated
and have the tips and skill sets that I taught
myself when I figured this out twenty years ago. You know,
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I was still working in the corporate world when I
was figuring this out, and I just had to become
very unconventional. I had to bring my food from Charlotte
and fly up to Detroit. So a little story about Michigan.
Michigan is where food Babe was born.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
It was a time period where I was traveling from
Charlotte to work at Ally Bank, and I was working
for these big sea level executives, and it was flying
back and forth from Charlotte in Detroit for two years,
and I had to figure out how to eat healthy
on the road and find out how to eat healthy
when I went to restaurants and find all the cool
(22:14):
little places and cafes that I could find near Detroit.
And I found myself driving outside of Detroit to like
Royal Oak, to this amazing cafe no longer exists. It's
called in season. If anybody remembers it, it was groundbreaking
for me, like just all the conversations I had, the
staff there and sitting there, and that is the moment
(22:36):
where I was inspired to really start food Babe. And
that's when I gave up television and started writing with
the time that I had.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And when I gave up television, that was the best
decision ever.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And Michigan is really near and dear to my heart.
So when I'm there again next Tuesday, I just feel
like this is like this full circle moment of being
back there and holding Kelloggs accountable.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Stay tuned for more with Vonnie Hari coming up, But
first I want to tell you about my partners at
ifcj October seventh was the one year mark of the
worst massacre of the Jewish people since the Holocaust. Twelve
hundred Israelis were murdered and more than two hundred and
fifty taken hostage. The war in Israel sadly rages on today.
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Israel and the Jewish people are facing attacks from enemies
on all sides seeking Israel's destruction, But the International Fellowship
of Christians in Jews is on the ground. They're providing
food shelter and safety to those in need during this
crisis since the war started. They are reservists, they're every
day Israelis who've left their families behind to serve their country,
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soldiers who have been injured in their families. They need support.
You guys can give it. Your gift of one hundred
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Join us and letting these families know that our listeners,
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listeners like you, stand with Israel. And I promise you.
I talked to the to the Fellowship a few months
ago and they said, the people on the ground they
know it's coming from American Christians. They are so grateful.
So you call today to make your one hundred and
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eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four eight eight
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four three two five, or you can go online to
support IFCJ dot org to give. That's one word, it's
support IFCJ dot org. Now stay tuned because we've got
more with Bonnie Harry after this. I think that what
you said just now is so impactful for so many
people because we go, we give up. It's too hard,
(24:50):
we can't find it. And it makes me mad at
the grocery stores because I for me to get die
free died just to make cookies at at the house,
I have to go to the health food store, which
is out of the way, it's hard to get to,
and for me to find putting that doesn't have color
in it. You know, all of the ingredients that you want,
(25:11):
and it's not None of this is at the regular
grocery store. They do not have a section where you
can be free of all of the chemicals, which is
crazy because I heard someone the other day say, why
is there a health food section in the grocery store?
What's all the other food?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And it's true, but even in the health food section,
you don't have anything free of these chemicals. They're everywhere.
It's very overwhelming, and we do look for Okay, what
can I throw in my kids lunchbox that's going to
fill them up. They're going to get through the day,
but they're not going to be poisoned. It's very hard.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, it is really hard. And so I think the
key thing that people need to recognize they have to
read ingredient labels. Read the ingredient labels, find out what
those chemicals are. If they're there for the purposes of
making the food companies more minde, don't buy that product anymore,
buy real food products.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
How do you know? How do you know why it's
in there?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Well, if you don't recognize it and it's not ingredient
you would find in your own kitchen, then you put
it back. You use your common sense. Right, you don't
have to be a rocket scientist to be know how
to eat. The only people that have made food complicated
in the last sixty years are the food scientists themselves
at these food companies. Right, They've been able to create
these chemical chemicals to hijack our brain. So we remember
(26:27):
a flavor, and we crave the flavor, and we're addicted
to that flavor. And that's why you know, you won't
find myself like feeding my kid's goldfish, because that's exactly
what the food industry wants you to do. They want
that kid to feel like they have to eat the
same thing all the time and have the exact same flavor,
whereas if I were to give my kid blueberries every
day for snack instead, sometimes they're mealy, sometimes they're sour,
(26:50):
sometimes they're plump, sometimes they're juicy, sometimes they're sweet, blueberries bery.
And that's the beauty of nature is all of those
sensations that we get in our mouth when we eat
some from nature, our body responds to it. And so
not only do our kids not become picky anymore because
they can handle a lot of different varieties of food,
but they are essentially, of course more healthier because of
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the nutrition that you would find in a blueberry versus
a bag dead goldfish.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That's so funny. My mom is the worst about eating
fruit and healthy food. And she used to say, oh,
I don't like fruit because it can trick you. Sometimes
it's really good and sometimes it's not. Like I love
your take, And I'm totally using that with her. I'm
gonna be like, you do not have a sophisticated palette.
You should be enjoying all the different levels of fruit.
(27:37):
Because she says that to my kids, I'm like, you're
not hello, grandma, you're not helping stop.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, you know, grandmas are going to be grandma's.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Right, exactly exactly. But you did have some success with
companies like Chipotle they changed their menu correct, So there
is hope for this.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, there is, There is definitely hope.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I mean, again, I think consumer pressure, you know, choosing
a different brand other than Kellogg's when you're going out
there to buy cereal. I mean, obviously don't choose it
because of all of the chemicals in it. But you know,
there's so many other great cereal brands out there. Now,
there's Eat Lovebird, There's Seven Sundays, There's I'm trying to
think there's another one. You know, you could just again,
(28:17):
my kids have never had cereal. We've always just been
a granola family or an oatmeal family. You know, you
don't have to eat cereal, your kids don't have to
have that. And the most important part to recognize in
all of this is as a parent, you are in
charge of what comes into the house for many, many
years of your kids' lives. You know, at least fifteen
(28:38):
I would imagine until they can go drive on their
own right, And so for.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Those fifteen years, make your pantry pristine. Get the shit
out of there.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You know, yeah, I mean even gosh, the teenage girls
are obsessed with the coffee shops and these crazy drinks,
and I'm like, we watched a video the other day
of how much sugar and fake syrups and all these
things are there, and I'm like, you, guys, this is
why you have to get over wanting to go get
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these things that are frozen and whipped up and they're
filled with calories and chemicals and like if it tastes
like this, but there's nothing that is come from a strawberry,
and there's probably it's probably not good for you. But
it's really hard. There's so much marketed to our kids,
and now I think more so than when we were little,
(29:30):
because you know, we had commercials, but they're on Pinterest,
they're on Instagram. It's constantly this is the latest here,
this is the latest at this shop, and it's all
fast food and coffee shops and all these things. It
is a lot of pressure. So you're right up until fifteen,
but I think you can still be educating your kids.
And we need to educate ourselves before we can educate
(29:53):
our kids. So you have books that we can educate ourselves.
So where can people find the book. How can people
follow you, how can they sign the petition? Because that,
to me is the most important thing, is that we
have enough people to say we're done.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Everything can be found on foodbabe dot com. Just go
straight there.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
The petitions there, the books are there, Everything is there,
all the links. Sign the petition if you want your
name included when I deliver those on Tuesday. And if
you live in Michigan, come out and be with us.
Bring your family, bring your friends, bring your children, show
them what it's like to hold companies accountable for their
lives and for better ingredients, because this is really how
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we're going to change the food system.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Do you think, just ask you one more thing, do
you think that there is a future in the United
States where it is illegal to put poison in food?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I would hope. I would hope.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So I think that's a conversation to have with your
elected official as well. I really think people should start
calling their congressmen and saying, I want you to do
something about this. I want you to get on the
side of health. I mean that how can you argue
with being on the side of health? And I think
that as we've learned this and again I thank you
for everything you've done, because, honestly, it was so overwhelming
(31:15):
when I first started to research what you were doing
and I found you, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
what are we doing to ourselves? And I think there
was a part of me that pushed it away because
I'm like, I don't know how to fix this. But
you never pushed it away. And I'm so grateful that
you have kept fighting and that you've made these changes,
And that, to me is what people really need to understand,
(31:37):
that you, as want a single person can do this
and make huge changes. So I'm so proud of you.
I mean, I'm so amazed at what you've done. Honestly,
like what I will say, finding you all those years ago,
I was like, this woman, there's something special and absolutely
you're amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Thank you. That really means a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Absolutely, So all of you out there follow Vonnie Hare.
She does wonderful work. It's a food babe, make sure
you check it out. But also for all of you
folks in Michigan, give us the time. What time should
they be there?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Tenth Yeah, We're going to be made in Battle Creek,
Michigan at ten thirty am.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
At Friendship Park.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
All right, so all of us Michiganders, we need to
get there if you can, take your kids. Take your kids,
because there's nothing more important to your future. As someone
who has lost a grandmother and a father too early
and also almost lost my own life too early, I
believe this is all connected. You don't want to go
through that yourselves, so please check it out. Thank you
(32:39):
so much, Bonnie, thanks for being here, Thank you, and
thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
As always, subscribe at Tutor dixonpodcast dot com or head
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