October 14, 2024 • 36 mins
Clip of Kamala Harris in 2021 spouting woke BS history on "Indigenous Peoples Day." Tony Soprano weighs in on Columbus Day. Left's attempt to rewrite American history around slavery. John Fetterman says Dems shouldn't underestimate Elon Musk's endorsement of Trump. Fourth anniversary of Hunter Biden laptop story. Christopher Rufo breaks Kamala Harris plagiarism story. Libs attack Crockett Coffee after Buck's Bill Maher appearance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Third Hour Clay and Buck kicks off on
this Columbus Day, Monday, October fourteenth. Christopher Columbus, the Genoese explorer,
thanks to the Spanish monarchy, changes the world, changes the
future of humanity in a way that is amazing and
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worthy of celebration, an incredible achievement. This is a moment
perhaps where you might be wondering, Oh, what does the
leadership of the Democrat Party think about Christopher Columbus? Well,
where do they come down on this issue? Oh gosh,
I don't know. What about the person who is held
up by the Democrats as the next leader of the
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free world? What does Kamala Harris. I'm sure, by the way,
we're probably a few hours from this being Oh, she
no longer feels that way. Right, We'll get somebody anonymously
from political Will say, you know, scoop, Kamala Harris aid, say,
she no longer feels this way about Columbus Day. But yeah,
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you know, Clayton, it's totally good.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It is funny that you would have to have somebody
anonymous say, yeah, she actually is a big Columbus Day person.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Big Columbus. Oh, huge fan of Columbus celebrates his whole catalog.
Here she is in not like two thousand and eight,
not two thousand and two. Here she is at the
beginning of her vice presidential term talking about uh European
explorers on the This is the National Congress of American
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Indian seventy eighth Annual Convention. This is what she thinks
about the exploration of America. Play it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Since nineteen thirty four, every October, the United States has
recognized the voyage of the European explorers who first landed
on the shores of the Americas. But that is not
the whole story. That has never been the whole story.
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Those explorers ushered in a wave of devastation for tribal nations,
perpetrating violence, stealing land, and spreading disease. We must not
shy away from this shameful past, and we must shed
light on it and do everything we can to address
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the impact of the past on Native communities today.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, this could be a much longer conversation about what
the reservation system in America has turned into and all
the casinos and all this stuff. The clay I would
just put it this way. It was amazing what Columbus accomplished,
and in terms of everything that came afterwards, and I've
read extensively about what it was like. Even in the
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pre American colonial error, bad stuff was not on both sides.
They lost, the Europeans won, and now we're in America
and it's a great place. Like what really, even if
we took kama letter word here, what are we supposed
to do?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It is a fantastic question.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And I mean, if you had a real historical conversation,
what in Kamala Harris's ideal world would the fourteen and
fifteen hundreds have looked like? What should have occurred that
did not? Overwhelmingly, Western civilization has made the world better.
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And so to pick different aspects of history that you
don't like five hundred years ago that none of us
had any control over.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, I just want to know how many lives if
we're going to play this game. And she's like, oh, well,
they brought disease, Well, yes, because the immune systems of
the people who were isolated here from the rest of
the planet were unable to handle pathogens that were freely
spread in societies all over the world by trade and exploration.
But just put that aside. How many lives were actually
saved by and I'm talking about all in by things
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like I don't know, antibiotics. Yeah, how many lives were
saved by clean drinking water. How many lives have been
saved by the civilizational advances that, by the way, didn't
just come from Europe. Came from many places around the world.
But they were civilizational advances. We can't just pick the
bad and leave out the good. And also I would
point out there is such a rewriting of history that
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goes on when it comes to the native tribes in
this country, Clay, they were in a constant state of
warfare with each other. I mentioned the Aztecs, but even
if you look at other tribes, including tribes that were
in Texas, tribes that were in the northeast parts of
the iroquoidation, cannibalism was practiced. They'd like to eat their enemies.
They would say it was for ritual purposes, but a
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mutilation of men, women and children in warfare. Like this
whole notion that it was like the movie Pocahontas where
everyone's just you know, the phynobylsies and the bees and
everyone's just getting along is a complete and utter lie.
They were in a stone age in terms of the
civilizational advances they had, as we pointed out, no wheel,
(05:05):
no writing, and they fought wars against the people that
showed up here, just like people fight wars all over
the world, and they lost. And now we're all you know,
now we're all here together. So I just the whole
thing to me is a one. It's it's ahistorical. It's uh,
it's unhelpful today, but common. There's Kamala Harris who's like, oh, well,
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the horrible things that the Europeans did.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Also, there was no way to stop disease.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Even if we had arrived here and only been super
kind to everyone, the disease was still going to spread widely.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Do we It's actually a lot of these diseases they think.
Bubonic plague, for example, came from Asia and arrived on
ships originally in Venice and and you know merchants, Genoese merchants,
Venetian merchants, and then it made its way all through Europe.
Are we sitting here like we need we need reparations
from Asia for the bubonic plague? You know, six hundred
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years ago? No, man, I mean it was a tough world.
Things happened. Bad stuff went down. I don't want to
tell you human beings humanity life was brutish, nasty and short. Anyway,
I don't want to spend too much time on it.
I do just think it's worth noting that Kamala Harris
goes along with this. I do want to note that
I hear from people all the time now when they
go to college tours and stuff. They start with these
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indigenous land, you know, proclamation about how I know how
we are here on stolen land. Actually, no, it's ours now. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I am taking my son around, my oldest to visit
different campuses, and many of the campus tours Buck, before
they even tell you about the history of the school
at all, begin with land acknowledgments. And I felt like
I was being pranked. When you're there and you're excited
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to go tour a campus and the very first thing
the campus tour guide says is before we start to
walk you around here, we want to acknowledge this is
stole land. I can't believe that this is complate. They
do this now Buck. In many universities, on the first
day of class, it's written in the syllabus these land acknowledgments.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It's so crazy, you.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Know, when you go back and you actually read the history,
if you read honest history of what happened, and a
lot Texans tend to know more about this. Texas was
out on its own, particularly the early eighteen hundreds and
going up to the period of the Civil War when
it came to dealing with the native tribes, particularly the Comanche,
the Apache, the Kiowa, and one of the things that's
left out it's always, oh, though the white man made
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these treaties and broke the treaties, there would be these
tribes Comanche is a good example, and they would decide,
like some of the young braves would decide that they
wanted to out make a name for themselves, and they
would do something called murder rates that's actually what they
called it. Then they weren't trying to they weren't showing
up at a fort and fighting with able bodied men
to see who is going to be in controlled of territory.
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They would wait until women and children were left alone.
They would go in enslave and or rape, murder, mutilate.
And then when we would sit and say, hold on
a second, I thought we had a treaty with you guys.
You know, the chief would say, sorry, I can't control everybody,
or sorry, that's not my tribe. Well, you know, imagine
that that's your life on the frontier. After a while,
you get pretty tired of that. So there's a total
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rewriting of this issue that goes on people. One of
the problems even then was that Texans were like, this
is horrible, this is what's going on, And people in
DC and the Northeast were, what's the problem? Yeah, aren't
they Aren't they just you know, civilizing like all the
rest of us and everything. Great, No it is not. Actually,
they're going on murder raids. And this is a history
that's not talked about now ever. Ever, I do a
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whole podcast series on this. People should know this stuff.
People should know what went on. People should know that
they that first of all, they were they were slavers.
The Native America. Oh yes, practiced widespread and continuous slavery
against each other and eventually against white set were here.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, there was a huge So all of this is like,
can we play just to have a little bit of humor.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
We've got the sopranos. Because we mentioned this in the
past hour. I think we've got the sopranos audio.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I hope we have the bleeps in there.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I think, well, we'll see the bleeps.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, all right, we got bleeps. All right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So here is Tony Soprano, one of the great shows
in the history of television. Weighing in to your point,
we're here in New York City, huge Italian population. My
mother in law's Italian. She would probably nod along entirely
with Tony Soprano.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Here he discovered America, is what he did.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
He was a brave Italian explorer, and this house, Christopher
Columbus is a hero and a story.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yes, okay, Soprano.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
The Indigenous people day concept is so laughably absurd that
I can't believe this reason.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I just you know what, I also would want to
ask you, okay, what land, what land did they own? Like,
show me how do you even sort of you know
how they you know, how they did determine who owned
what land among the t what they could keep by
force of arms against other tribes. That's it. There were
no deeds, there was none of this stuff. It was just, Hey,
if you come into my hunting territory, I'm gonna scalp
you We also had the whole thing too of suddenly
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scalping becomes a practice, and they try to say, now
that this comes from the European side of things. Interesting,
never happened anywhere else until they came into the Americas.
And guess what they would take trophies of each other.
And people even ask me, you can go check. There
were among the Native American tribes there was cannibalism practice,
not by all of them, but by some of them.
You will not read that in books until you find
(10:34):
the right books. It is true.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
This also ties in with the entire concept of trying
to redefine American history around slavery, which is what they've
tried to do with the New York Times, for instance.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
The idea that slavery.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Only existed in the United States is really kind of
embedded in the left wing attempt to destroy the history of.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
The United States.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
This country fought its first foreign war in large part,
really entirely to stop the enslavement of white Europeans by
Barbary corsairs off the north from the North African coast.
Essentially that was to the shores of Tripoli. That's why
we actually fought our first So why we outfitted a navy.
We had six frigates, we deployed them and we had
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to go fight because and we asked, Actually, there was
a a one of the you know, the Pasha or
the Amy or whatever he's called himself at the time,
was was in London and Rmssary I believe it might
have even been Jefferson at the time, said why are
you doing this to us? Because the Koran says we
can and we like to. That's it. So when we're
enslaving our people.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
One of the huge lessons of world history, if you
actually study it, is every single person listening to us
right now has at some point had ancestors who were
slaves and people who owned slaves. One percent of you white, Black, Asian, Hispanic.
If you go back far enough, slavery was so endemic
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in society that every single one of you as an
ancestor who owned slaves and was steep.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
The word comes from slav actually, that's the root of it,
and it goes back to ancient Roman times. So the
original slaves, if you will, or white people in eastern Europe,
that is where the term originated from. Two thousand years ago,
I talked about the slave trade, by the way, that
slave trade of Barbary corsairs off of North Africa. It
wasn't a short period. It went on for about three
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hundred years. They went as far as Ireland and Iceland.
They would go all along the coast of Spain. In fact,
the Spanish in the sixteenth century were terrified. They would
tell their children's stories about Barbarossa the pirate, and how
he would steal children from the coast, because they did,
by the way, that was a thing that would happen.
They would show up anyway. We could talk with this
all day long. But this idea that it was like, oh,
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everything was great here.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It was not utopi.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yet they were not noble savages, which was another aspect
of the way that they were described in the Jefferson
Sonian era. No, their lives were brutal and filled with violence,
and in no way were they living in some sort
of dentic paradise.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
When we were right, Davy Crockett and we have Crockett coffee.
Davy Crockett's grandfather was scalped by Indians. Yeah, okay, this
was a reality of life on the frontier. Imagine that's there,
you know, I know Joe Biden's like, you know, my
my granduncle was eaten by Cannibal's or something. They're almost
eaten by Cannibal's. Turn. Now that wasn't true, but it's
Joe Biden. But this was reality of life on the frontier.
We get a very one sided story. And yeah, people
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do really horrible things. I mean, go back and read
about the Thirty Years War in Germany and Europe. People
do very terrible things to each other. But it's only
this one where all of a sudden we're like, where's
I'm supposed to make amends for this today? I didn't
do anything, You didn't do any No one listening to
this did anything. But we're supposed to sit around and say, oh,
you know, I'm so worried about it. Anyway, And Kamala
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Do think, and we mentioned this in the open of
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in particular his goal to make to make a world
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did with landing that device with SpaceX is extraordinary. Front
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page article Sunday edition New York Times talking about Elon
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for the progress of humanity. And I actually thought our
old friend John Fetterman, Pennsylvania Senator, who is one of
the few Democrats that make sense on a day to
day basis, said, don't underestimate the impact of Elon Musk.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Here's cut seventeen.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Most endorsements don't count for much in this business, but
Musk is incredibly popular, and he has an appeal to
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to some people that they see him as that's Tony Stark.
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So I think that is a situation for Democrats. We
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Speaker 2 (17:05):
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Look, it is significant that Elon created a free speech
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Oh Mylla Harris not
having a great time lately, things not going the way
that Kamala campaign wants them to. We've broken down those
numbers for you, will continue to do so this week.
We know it ain't over till it's over, and there's
still a lot of time for momentum shifts and shenanigans.
(19:18):
Wh I wouldn't say a lot of time, but there's time.
But this is certainly not helpful. Just for Kamala what
just came out. Now she has a book and I
have to appear to Christopher Rufo. I love it, mister Rufo.
High five to you as usual, doing great work, great
(19:39):
research here. Christopher Rufo has this up on X exclusive.
Kamala Harris plagiarized at least a dozen sections of her
criminal justice book, Smart on Crime not so smart after all.
According to a new investigation, the current Vice president even
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lifted material from Wikipedia. Okay, before I get into this,
I actually just hand it in or I'm going to
be handing in rather soon. In the draft of my
book to you know, be reviewed. I got to send
it to the government, I got to send to the
publisher and all this stuff. But I mean, one thing,
you're always trying to be so careful about this, right
because as a conservative, I feel like Clay, if I'm
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missing like the second quotation mark on a sentence, even
if it is footnoted and whatever. Look, oh stealing, stealing
someone's thoughts, are you, sir? Like we know how they
play that. It's so no good faith. You could write
eighty thousand words of beautiful prose or whatever. I know
you've written multiple books and and if you have, like,
you know, one sentence that you have a clerical error
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worth basically, they're gonna be like, oh, you're the worst person. Okay.
What Kamala has done here in this book is the
definition of gross plagiarism. It is copy and because Ruffo
has he has the proof. I mean it's there the
Kamala Harris book and then from the Associate Press, the
Kamala Harris book, John Jay Criminal Justice, and Clay we're
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talking about like whole section. Yeah, we're talking about cut
and paste of maybe you know, one hundred and fifty
words two hundred words at a time. Here with some
of these many many times. Now here's what's kind of
from the Urban Institute cut and paste. I mean, there's
so many of these things. But Clay, as Rufu points out,
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she grew up middle class and around people who care
about their lawn, So we're not supposed to care about
any of this. The plagiarismth thing, to me is interesting
because one Kamala has an authenticity problem and an honesty problem,
and this adds to that, and that's real. I also
think it's funny though, because you and I both know
she didn't write this. Yeah, I think that this is
a book that she hired somebody else, probably with m
Hof's money. She hired somebody else to write for her
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to create the illusion that she was some kind of
a criminal justice scholar. And so the fallback here is, yes,
there is cutting and pasting in my book in block
quotes from Wikipedia without citation. But I will just have
to get angry at my ghostwriter over it.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I bet she throws to the extent this becomes a
story the ghostwriter completely under the bus. To me, it
doesn't directly, I can't believe I'm going to defend Kamala here.
She didn't write it, and she likely had no idea
that any of this plagiarism had occurred. But here's where
I would say there is an element that you can
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attack her for. First of all, Joe Biden was forced
to drop out of his presidential run in nineteen eighty
eight because he was basically plagiarizing the speeches of a
European politician. And whether or not Biden knew, you're on
the hook for your speech writers. Remember we talked about
Christy Nome and her book and what she chose to
put in there, which in many ways may well have
(22:52):
torpedoed her VP prospects. If I am Kamala Harris, and
I am writing a book that is designed to provide
the platform for me to become president of the United States,
you have to have people vetting the ghostwriting of the book.
In other words, the ghostwriter writes it, your staff reads it,
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and then they go back over it. And they should
be vetting and checking things and trying to catch issues
like this. And I said, my issue wasn't actually what
Christy Noam did necessarily, it was the fact that they decided, hey,
we want to put part of our story in the
autobiography about killing the dog. It was basically a failure
of politics, more than leaving aside the morality of how
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she behaved with the dog. They read it, they knew
what was in there. And then the Kim Jong un
bragging about meeting him and all these things. If you're
going to write a book, you have to make sure
that the book doesn't blow up in your face.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You have to have read the book that you had
somebody else write for you. I think that's fair, you know.
I actually also I disagree with this. I think you
have to put the name of somebody who actually did
the writing.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It should be on the front cover.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
On the book in a way who you know. Yes,
we have editors, and editors will change some things. Whatever.
You know, if you've written, unless you've written seventy five
percent or more of the of the actual words in
the book, you need to have someone else's name along
with yours on the cover. If you give someone the credit, fine,
it's a business. I get it. But this thing that
a lot of these politicians do, I mean, first of all,
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it bothers me. And again I'm writing the thick of it.
You've been through this scauntlet a few times. I'm right
in the thick of this and they're like, yeah, it's
so hard to sell books. I'm like, yeah, because everyone
just churns out this ghost writer provided crap, this slop.
And it's on the right as well as the left.
I hate to say it, but it's true. People who
you know, they just use it as a marketing tool.
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They just put their name on it. They don't care
what's in it. It doesn't actually advance any narrative or
try to inform the audience in any meaningful the readership
in any meaningful way. And look, I just disagree with
that somehow. And this is what you know, people on
the right disagree with me on this, clay. If I
were in in a graduate program like a PhD program
at Columbia University and international relations, right, I'm a busy guy,
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and I paid someone one hundred thousand dollars to write
my thesis and that came out, and I you know,
it is my thesis that I couldn't say, Oh, it's
it good for services transaction? You know, they they agreed,
I agreed. But if you're you know, some politician who
doesn't you know, says they don't have the time, or
you're some celebrity. H celebrity doesn't really, No one thinks
(25:27):
celebrities write their books because they can't spell, you know,
like actors and stuff. But if you're some of these
other people, you're holding yourself up as the author of
a piece of work that's that's not yours and giving
no credit for the help collaborators. Or collaborators are fine,
you know. Do you know what I'm saying. I'm talking
about people. I'm not gonna name names because I don't
have any enemies on the right, but there are people
who put out these books that they don't know a
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darn word that's in it before it goes to press, basically,
and and it makes it harder for people on the
right who actually write books to sell them because the
marketplace is flooded and it's like another person with a
TV show or a radio show or whatever, you know,
quote unquote writing a book. I think people should write
their books. By the way, we have Ali Stucky on Tomorrow,
she writes her books.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I've read that for a fact four and it's hard.
It's really time consuming work. And I understand why celebrities
who don't want to work very hard, pay somebody to
do it, because it's a grind. It reminds me Kamala
Harris getting caught plagiarizing here reminds me. One of the
great all time quotes. Charles Barkley claimed that he was
(26:31):
misquoted in his own autobiography, which is one.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Of the great all time lines.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
He was getting criticism for something that was written in
his book and they said, oh, I was misquoted. When
you claim that you're misquoted in your own autobiography, it
goes to what you're saying, which is many people with
public platforms have limited to no responsibility. They meet and
have their thoughts recorded, and then a writer goes off
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and they put it all together. And I bet Kamala
Harris didn't even read the totality of her book.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Well. Also, there's another part of this too, which is
the book that we're talking about here. It's not there's
some variations. Look, if you were the president, no one
thinks the former president is like sitting down and writing
an eight hundred page By the way, no one reads
those books either. People buy, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
To put them on the coffee table and send a
message about what kind of person they are.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean, I'll tell you I was given as a gift,
like George W. Bush's biography is boric. Okay, I didn't
learn anything. I'm like, I actually gave it away. I
give a lot of books away to use bookstores. And
if somebody has a need for a huge box of
conservative books that I've been sent that I did not
ask for, send it a VIP email and tell me
where I can send them that will actually get used
(27:44):
and read. Because people are always sending me their books.
We'll pick people that we think do good books and
they're friends of the show. But you know, I mean,
everyone wants to come on this radio show. I understand
for their books. I Clay, I think with back to Commo,
though this book wasn't an autobiography or a biography. It
was here is my expertise on criminal justice. Like, here's
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me showing you what my knowledge and expertise is on
an issue that is really the centerpiece of my career.
And to assuming it was a ghostwriter. Look, if it's
not a ghostwriter, oh I'm sorry, Well then she's just
a crazy plagiarist, right, which is also possible. This is
a particularly this is a particularly egregious example of it,
because she was really using this as a credential. It's
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not just to like, here's my life. Let's have somebody
turn this into a narrative.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I also think it goes and you hit on this
a bit earlier to I think the most lacerating attack
on Kamala Harris in this campaign is that she's profoundly
and authentic and the fact that even her book is
copied and pasted from elsewhere, it reinforces oh, we just
(28:51):
copied and paste the Joe Biden platform. It reinforces the idea.
I said this on Fox News earlier today with Bill
Hemmer and Dana Perino, that she doesn't do her homework. Buck,
she just doesn't do her homework.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Cover it's her. The cover is smart on crime. Oh man,
but you're asking for it. You're gonna plagiarize and you're
smart on crime. Book about your smarts on crime.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We Buck played the cut of jd Vance calling out
Martha raddicch rat ratits, and it's important the way he responded,
because it requires that you have done your homework on
an issue. You and I have to do tons of
hours of homework to sit down every day and talk
to all of you, and we want to make sure
we get our facts right, that we're aware of all
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the news stories that are out there. Kamala doesn't do
her homework. She seems to be a lazy politician. Some
politicians are super detail oriented. Rod DeSantis is reading all
the work himself. He's checking.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
He's the guy that you wanted on the group project
in college because you were going to get be able
to go out and drink beer and he'd have it
all done for you the next morning. That's right.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So he's doing his homework. Kamala Harris isn't. And so
this just goes more and more to if she's not
willing to put in the work, why does she deserve
a promate promotion for a job she's already done. She
can't even tell you answer questions about a job that.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
She already has.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
This is I think going to be as we sit
here twenty two days out, further panic every day as
we count down class.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I just have to think, what can they do if
they hired you and I and we were going to
be We're going to dispense with all principle, all care
for the future of the country, Like we were just
pure mercenaries for the Kamala campaign at this point, right,
just as a thought exercise. I don't know. I don't
know what they can do at this point other than
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what they're doing, which is just, you know, let the
chips fall where they may. She's got to do some interviews,
she's got to sit down with Brett Bhaer because they
got to shake things up. Status quo is lost. They
know that, so, but I'm just saying, what could they
do that isn't you know? That's a difference from the
campaign status quo. I don't have any good, you know,
any good options here for them. You notice how little
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we're even talking about the four criminal trials against Donald Trump,
A meaning that no one cares. Okay, this is a
thing that like elites on the coasts who only watch
Morning Joe, which I missed this morning, sadly, this is
what they care about. No normal person cares about that.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
What they're running up against, Buck is everybody's already made
up their opinions about Donald Trump. And the problem that
she has is, if you look at the data, a
lot of people have decided they don't like Kamala Harris
on an even level with Donald Trump. That matters because
a lot of the people who don't like Trump don't
even dispute that he's.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Right on a lot of the issues.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Kamala doesn't even have any other than abortion, which they
have played to the end degree. What can you even
point to and say, hey, you know what, I can
see her winning on that issue. She's wrong on everything
and moreover, she's taken both sides of every issue.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And I know that, you know, there are some people
in the pro life community, and I understand this feeling
who think that Trump didn't take a hard enough line
on this, or they want them to take a different approach.
The worst thing that can happen is a Kamala Harris
presidency for life, for babies, for the unborn and the womb.
Trump's position of we're going to leave this to the states.
(32:23):
Everyone kind of knows it's we're going to leave it
to the states for now, but that has defanged I
think the issue this time. I remember Clay in twenty
twenty two, it was, oh my gosh, it just happened.
What's going to happen in these states? If you're live
in a Democrats state, you're getting abortions all over the place.
Nobody cares. The number of abortions has not changed, which
is you know, with the end of tragic but yeah, tragic.
But the political reality is it's tough to get people
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that motivated over something that isn't really actually an issue
for them. And you know, in the Red States, I
think that people recognize, first of all, a lot of
Red states even obviously still allow abortion, so it's not
the issue. I hope if I will say this, I'll
put this marker down if Kamala Harris wins the election.
To me, it's a symbol that unfortunately, right now, abortion
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is a single issue that can actually just deliver the
presidency to Democrats. That's the only thing that I can
see because the whole January sixth stuff, like even the
Bill Maher audience when they tried to bring that up
in overtime. Go watch the overtime segment, by the way,
on YouTube. That was really good for Bill Maher on
Friday yours truly was there of course, Clay January sixth,
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All right, Third Hour Clay and Buck kicks off on
this Columbus Day, Monday, October fourteenth. Christopher Columbus, the Genoese explorer,
thanks to the Spanish monarchy, changes the world, changes the
future of humanity in a way that is amazing and
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worthy of celebration, an incredible achievement. This is a moment
perhaps where you might be wondering, Oh, what does the
leadership of the Democrat Party think about Christopher Columbus? Well,
where do they come down on this issue? Oh gosh,
I don't know. What about the person who is held
up by the Democrats as the next leader of the
(00:44):
free world? What does Kamala Harris. I'm sure, by the way,
we're probably a few hours from this being Oh, she
no longer feels that way. Right, We'll get somebody anonymously
from political Will say, you know, scoop, Kamala Harris aid, say,
she no longer feels this way about Columbus Day. But yeah,
(01:04):
you know, Clayton, it's totally good.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It is funny that you would have to have somebody
anonymous say, yeah, she actually is a big Columbus Day person.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Big Columbus. Oh, huge fan of Columbus celebrates his whole catalog.
Here she is in not like two thousand and eight,
not two thousand and two. Here she is at the
beginning of her vice presidential term talking about uh European
explorers on the This is the National Congress of American
(01:33):
Indian seventy eighth Annual Convention. This is what she thinks
about the exploration of America. Play it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Since nineteen thirty four, every October, the United States has
recognized the voyage of the European explorers who first landed
on the shores of the Americas. But that is not
the whole story. That has never been the whole story.
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Those explorers ushered in a wave of devastation for tribal nations,
perpetrating violence, stealing land, and spreading disease. We must not
shy away from this shameful past, and we must shed
light on it and do everything we can to address
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the impact of the past on Native communities today.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, this could be a much longer conversation about what
the reservation system in America has turned into and all
the casinos and all this stuff. The clay I would
just put it this way. It was amazing what Columbus accomplished,
and in terms of everything that came afterwards, and I've
read extensively about what it was like. Even in the
(02:49):
pre American colonial error, bad stuff was not on both sides.
They lost, the Europeans won, and now we're in America
and it's a great place. Like what really, even if
we took kama letter word here, what are we supposed
to do?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It is a fantastic question.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And I mean, if you had a real historical conversation,
what in Kamala Harris's ideal world would the fourteen and
fifteen hundreds have looked like? What should have occurred that
did not? Overwhelmingly, Western civilization has made the world better.
(03:30):
And so to pick different aspects of history that you
don't like five hundred years ago that none of us
had any control over.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, I just want to know how many lives if
we're going to play this game. And she's like, oh, well,
they brought disease, Well, yes, because the immune systems of
the people who were isolated here from the rest of
the planet were unable to handle pathogens that were freely
spread in societies all over the world by trade and exploration.
But just put that aside. How many lives were actually
saved by and I'm talking about all in by things
(04:04):
like I don't know, antibiotics. Yeah, how many lives were
saved by clean drinking water. How many lives have been
saved by the civilizational advances that, by the way, didn't
just come from Europe. Came from many places around the world.
But they were civilizational advances. We can't just pick the
bad and leave out the good. And also I would
point out there is such a rewriting of history that
(04:24):
goes on when it comes to the native tribes in
this country, Clay, they were in a constant state of
warfare with each other. I mentioned the Aztecs, but even
if you look at other tribes, including tribes that were
in Texas, tribes that were in the northeast parts of
the iroquoidation, cannibalism was practiced. They'd like to eat their enemies.
They would say it was for ritual purposes, but a
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mutilation of men, women and children in warfare. Like this
whole notion that it was like the movie Pocahontas where
everyone's just you know, the phynobylsies and the bees and
everyone's just getting along is a complete and utter lie.
They were in a stone age in terms of the
civilizational advances they had, as we pointed out, no wheel,
(05:05):
no writing, and they fought wars against the people that
showed up here, just like people fight wars all over
the world, and they lost. And now we're all you know,
now we're all here together. So I just the whole
thing to me is a one. It's it's ahistorical. It's uh,
it's unhelpful today, but common. There's Kamala Harris who's like, oh, well,
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the horrible things that the Europeans did.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Also, there was no way to stop disease.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Even if we had arrived here and only been super
kind to everyone, the disease was still going to spread widely.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Do we It's actually a lot of these diseases they think.
Bubonic plague, for example, came from Asia and arrived on
ships originally in Venice and and you know merchants, Genoese merchants,
Venetian merchants, and then it made its way all through Europe.
Are we sitting here like we need we need reparations
from Asia for the bubonic plague? You know, six hundred
(06:03):
years ago? No, man, I mean it was a tough world.
Things happened. Bad stuff went down. I don't want to
tell you human beings humanity life was brutish, nasty and short. Anyway,
I don't want to spend too much time on it.
I do just think it's worth noting that Kamala Harris
goes along with this. I do want to note that
I hear from people all the time now when they
go to college tours and stuff. They start with these
(06:25):
indigenous land, you know, proclamation about how I know how
we are here on stolen land. Actually, no, it's ours now. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I am taking my son around, my oldest to visit
different campuses, and many of the campus tours Buck, before
they even tell you about the history of the school
at all, begin with land acknowledgments. And I felt like
I was being pranked. When you're there and you're excited
(06:55):
to go tour a campus and the very first thing
the campus tour guide says is before we start to
walk you around here, we want to acknowledge this is
stole land. I can't believe that this is complate. They
do this now Buck. In many universities, on the first
day of class, it's written in the syllabus these land acknowledgments.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It's so crazy, you.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Know, when you go back and you actually read the history,
if you read honest history of what happened, and a
lot Texans tend to know more about this. Texas was
out on its own, particularly the early eighteen hundreds and
going up to the period of the Civil War when
it came to dealing with the native tribes, particularly the Comanche,
the Apache, the Kiowa, and one of the things that's
left out it's always, oh, though the white man made
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these treaties and broke the treaties, there would be these
tribes Comanche is a good example, and they would decide,
like some of the young braves would decide that they
wanted to out make a name for themselves, and they
would do something called murder rates that's actually what they
called it. Then they weren't trying to they weren't showing
up at a fort and fighting with able bodied men
to see who is going to be in controlled of territory.
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They would wait until women and children were left alone.
They would go in enslave and or rape, murder, mutilate.
And then when we would sit and say, hold on
a second, I thought we had a treaty with you guys.
You know, the chief would say, sorry, I can't control everybody,
or sorry, that's not my tribe. Well, you know, imagine
that that's your life on the frontier. After a while,
you get pretty tired of that. So there's a total
(08:22):
rewriting of this issue that goes on people. One of
the problems even then was that Texans were like, this
is horrible, this is what's going on, And people in
DC and the Northeast were, what's the problem? Yeah, aren't
they Aren't they just you know, civilizing like all the
rest of us and everything. Great, No it is not. Actually,
they're going on murder raids. And this is a history
that's not talked about now ever. Ever, I do a
(08:44):
whole podcast series on this. People should know this stuff.
People should know what went on. People should know that
they that first of all, they were they were slavers.
The Native America. Oh yes, practiced widespread and continuous slavery
against each other and eventually against white set were here.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, there was a huge So all of this is like,
can we play just to have a little bit of humor.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
We've got the sopranos. Because we mentioned this in the
past hour. I think we've got the sopranos audio.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I hope we have the bleeps in there.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I think, well, we'll see the bleeps.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, all right, we got bleeps. All right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So here is Tony Soprano, one of the great shows
in the history of television. Weighing in to your point,
we're here in New York City, huge Italian population. My
mother in law's Italian. She would probably nod along entirely
with Tony Soprano.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Here he discovered America, is what he did.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
He was a brave Italian explorer, and this house, Christopher
Columbus is a hero and a story.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yes, okay, Soprano.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
The Indigenous people day concept is so laughably absurd that
I can't believe this reason.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I just you know what, I also would want to
ask you, okay, what land, what land did they own? Like,
show me how do you even sort of you know
how they you know, how they did determine who owned
what land among the t what they could keep by
force of arms against other tribes. That's it. There were
no deeds, there was none of this stuff. It was just, Hey,
if you come into my hunting territory, I'm gonna scalp
you We also had the whole thing too of suddenly
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scalping becomes a practice, and they try to say, now
that this comes from the European side of things. Interesting,
never happened anywhere else until they came into the Americas.
And guess what they would take trophies of each other.
And people even ask me, you can go check. There
were among the Native American tribes there was cannibalism practice,
not by all of them, but by some of them.
You will not read that in books until you find
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the right books. It is true.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
This also ties in with the entire concept of trying
to redefine American history around slavery, which is what they've
tried to do with the New York Times, for instance.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
The idea that slavery.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Only existed in the United States is really kind of
embedded in the left wing attempt to destroy the history of.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
The United States.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
This country fought its first foreign war in large part,
really entirely to stop the enslavement of white Europeans by
Barbary corsairs off the north from the North African coast.
Essentially that was to the shores of Tripoli. That's why
we actually fought our first So why we outfitted a navy.
We had six frigates, we deployed them and we had
(11:18):
to go fight because and we asked, Actually, there was
a a one of the you know, the Pasha or
the Amy or whatever he's called himself at the time,
was was in London and Rmssary I believe it might
have even been Jefferson at the time, said why are
you doing this to us? Because the Koran says we
can and we like to. That's it. So when we're
enslaving our people.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
One of the huge lessons of world history, if you
actually study it, is every single person listening to us
right now has at some point had ancestors who were
slaves and people who owned slaves. One percent of you white, Black, Asian, Hispanic.
If you go back far enough, slavery was so endemic
(11:57):
in society that every single one of you as an
ancestor who owned slaves and was steep.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
The word comes from slav actually, that's the root of it,
and it goes back to ancient Roman times. So the
original slaves, if you will, or white people in eastern Europe,
that is where the term originated from. Two thousand years ago,
I talked about the slave trade, by the way, that
slave trade of Barbary corsairs off of North Africa. It
wasn't a short period. It went on for about three
(12:26):
hundred years. They went as far as Ireland and Iceland.
They would go all along the coast of Spain. In fact,
the Spanish in the sixteenth century were terrified. They would
tell their children's stories about Barbarossa the pirate, and how
he would steal children from the coast, because they did,
by the way, that was a thing that would happen.
They would show up anyway. We could talk with this
all day long. But this idea that it was like, oh,
(12:50):
everything was great here.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It was not utopi.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yet they were not noble savages, which was another aspect
of the way that they were described in the Jefferson
Sonian era. No, their lives were brutal and filled with violence,
and in no way were they living in some sort
of dentic paradise.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
When we were right, Davy Crockett and we have Crockett coffee.
Davy Crockett's grandfather was scalped by Indians. Yeah, okay, this
was a reality of life on the frontier. Imagine that's there,
you know, I know Joe Biden's like, you know, my
my granduncle was eaten by Cannibal's or something. They're almost
eaten by Cannibal's. Turn. Now that wasn't true, but it's
Joe Biden. But this was reality of life on the frontier.
We get a very one sided story. And yeah, people
(13:30):
do really horrible things. I mean, go back and read
about the Thirty Years War in Germany and Europe. People
do very terrible things to each other. But it's only
this one where all of a sudden we're like, where's
I'm supposed to make amends for this today? I didn't
do anything, You didn't do any No one listening to
this did anything. But we're supposed to sit around and say, oh,
you know, I'm so worried about it. Anyway, And Kamala
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she is all about whatever the woke demands. This whole
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did with landing that device with SpaceX is extraordinary. Front
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page article Sunday edition New York Times talking about Elon
Musk seeing the Trump election as essential to his goal
for the progress of humanity. And I actually thought our
old friend John Fetterman, Pennsylvania Senator, who is one of
the few Democrats that make sense on a day to
day basis, said, don't underestimate the impact of Elon Musk.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Here's cut seventeen.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Most endorsements don't count for much in this business, but
Musk is incredibly popular, and he has an appeal to
a demographic that Democrats have been struggled with there and
to some people that they see him as that's Tony Stark.
He's the world's richest man, and he's undeniably a brilliant guy.
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So I think that is a situation for Democrats. We
would have to acknowledge that. And it seems now now
I see that on the front page of the New
York Times now talking about it, So you know that
that's a significant development for me in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
He's basically Buck moved to Pennsylvania. Elon Musk has he's
running a campaign out of Pittsburgh to try to win
the state for Trump.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Look, it is significant that Elon created a free speech
platform with x because of the sharing of information. Did
we mention it's the four year anniversary of the Hunter
Biden lap yeh for today? It is today the four
year anniversary of The New York Post breaking the Hunter
Biden laptop story and then the collusion between the biggest
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social media companies to shut it down, to lock the
New York Post, which I think is the oldest newspaper
in New York. You know, ongoing newspaper in New York
lock it out of their own account. Total scandal that
couldn't happen the same way today. Elon's kicked it wide
open and also the richest guy on the planet and
the most important CEO and entrepreneur. Going all in for
Trump means something.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
We come back.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Kamala Harris caught plagiarizing in a significant way in her
new book. We'll break that down for you. Chris Rufo
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Oh Mylla Harris not
having a great time lately, things not going the way
that Kamala campaign wants them to. We've broken down those
numbers for you, will continue to do so this week.
We know it ain't over till it's over, and there's
still a lot of time for momentum shifts and shenanigans.
(19:18):
Wh I wouldn't say a lot of time, but there's time.
But this is certainly not helpful. Just for Kamala what
just came out. Now she has a book and I
have to appear to Christopher Rufo. I love it, mister Rufo.
High five to you as usual, doing great work, great
(19:39):
research here. Christopher Rufo has this up on X exclusive.
Kamala Harris plagiarized at least a dozen sections of her
criminal justice book, Smart on Crime not so smart after all.
According to a new investigation, the current Vice president even
(20:00):
lifted material from Wikipedia. Okay, before I get into this,
I actually just hand it in or I'm going to
be handing in rather soon. In the draft of my
book to you know, be reviewed. I got to send
it to the government, I got to send to the
publisher and all this stuff. But I mean, one thing,
you're always trying to be so careful about this, right
because as a conservative, I feel like Clay, if I'm
(20:21):
missing like the second quotation mark on a sentence, even
if it is footnoted and whatever. Look, oh stealing, stealing
someone's thoughts, are you, sir? Like we know how they
play that. It's so no good faith. You could write
eighty thousand words of beautiful prose or whatever. I know
you've written multiple books and and if you have, like,
you know, one sentence that you have a clerical error
(20:45):
worth basically, they're gonna be like, oh, you're the worst person. Okay.
What Kamala has done here in this book is the
definition of gross plagiarism. It is copy and because Ruffo
has he has the proof. I mean it's there the
Kamala Harris book and then from the Associate Press, the
Kamala Harris book, John Jay Criminal Justice, and Clay we're
(21:06):
talking about like whole section. Yeah, we're talking about cut
and paste of maybe you know, one hundred and fifty
words two hundred words at a time. Here with some
of these many many times. Now here's what's kind of
from the Urban Institute cut and paste. I mean, there's
so many of these things. But Clay, as Rufu points out,
(21:28):
she grew up middle class and around people who care
about their lawn, So we're not supposed to care about
any of this. The plagiarismth thing, to me is interesting
because one Kamala has an authenticity problem and an honesty problem,
and this adds to that, and that's real. I also
think it's funny though, because you and I both know
she didn't write this. Yeah, I think that this is
a book that she hired somebody else, probably with m
Hof's money. She hired somebody else to write for her
(21:51):
to create the illusion that she was some kind of
a criminal justice scholar. And so the fallback here is, yes,
there is cutting and pasting in my book in block
quotes from Wikipedia without citation. But I will just have
to get angry at my ghostwriter over it.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I bet she throws to the extent this becomes a
story the ghostwriter completely under the bus. To me, it
doesn't directly, I can't believe I'm going to defend Kamala here.
She didn't write it, and she likely had no idea
that any of this plagiarism had occurred. But here's where
I would say there is an element that you can
(22:31):
attack her for. First of all, Joe Biden was forced
to drop out of his presidential run in nineteen eighty
eight because he was basically plagiarizing the speeches of a
European politician. And whether or not Biden knew, you're on
the hook for your speech writers. Remember we talked about
Christy Nome and her book and what she chose to
put in there, which in many ways may well have
(22:52):
torpedoed her VP prospects. If I am Kamala Harris, and
I am writing a book that is designed to provide
the platform for me to become president of the United States,
you have to have people vetting the ghostwriting of the book.
In other words, the ghostwriter writes it, your staff reads it,
(23:13):
and then they go back over it. And they should
be vetting and checking things and trying to catch issues
like this. And I said, my issue wasn't actually what
Christy Noam did necessarily, it was the fact that they decided, hey,
we want to put part of our story in the
autobiography about killing the dog. It was basically a failure
of politics, more than leaving aside the morality of how
(23:36):
she behaved with the dog. They read it, they knew
what was in there. And then the Kim Jong un
bragging about meeting him and all these things. If you're
going to write a book, you have to make sure
that the book doesn't blow up in your face.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You have to have read the book that you had
somebody else write for you. I think that's fair, you know.
I actually also I disagree with this. I think you
have to put the name of somebody who actually did
the writing.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It should be on the front cover.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
On the book in a way who you know. Yes,
we have editors, and editors will change some things. Whatever.
You know, if you've written, unless you've written seventy five
percent or more of the of the actual words in
the book, you need to have someone else's name along
with yours on the cover. If you give someone the credit, fine,
it's a business. I get it. But this thing that
a lot of these politicians do, I mean, first of all,
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it bothers me. And again I'm writing the thick of it.
You've been through this scauntlet a few times. I'm right
in the thick of this and they're like, yeah, it's
so hard to sell books. I'm like, yeah, because everyone
just churns out this ghost writer provided crap, this slop.
And it's on the right as well as the left.
I hate to say it, but it's true. People who
you know, they just use it as a marketing tool.
(24:43):
They just put their name on it. They don't care
what's in it. It doesn't actually advance any narrative or
try to inform the audience in any meaningful the readership
in any meaningful way. And look, I just disagree with
that somehow. And this is what you know, people on
the right disagree with me on this, clay. If I
were in in a graduate program like a PhD program
at Columbia University and international relations, right, I'm a busy guy,
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and I paid someone one hundred thousand dollars to write
my thesis and that came out, and I you know,
it is my thesis that I couldn't say, Oh, it's
it good for services transaction? You know, they they agreed,
I agreed. But if you're you know, some politician who
doesn't you know, says they don't have the time, or
you're some celebrity. H celebrity doesn't really, No one thinks
(25:27):
celebrities write their books because they can't spell, you know,
like actors and stuff. But if you're some of these
other people, you're holding yourself up as the author of
a piece of work that's that's not yours and giving
no credit for the help collaborators. Or collaborators are fine,
you know. Do you know what I'm saying. I'm talking
about people. I'm not gonna name names because I don't
have any enemies on the right, but there are people
who put out these books that they don't know a
(25:48):
darn word that's in it before it goes to press, basically,
and and it makes it harder for people on the
right who actually write books to sell them because the
marketplace is flooded and it's like another person with a
TV show or a radio show or whatever, you know,
quote unquote writing a book. I think people should write
their books. By the way, we have Ali Stucky on Tomorrow,
she writes her books.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I've read that for a fact four and it's hard.
It's really time consuming work. And I understand why celebrities
who don't want to work very hard, pay somebody to
do it, because it's a grind. It reminds me Kamala
Harris getting caught plagiarizing here reminds me. One of the
great all time quotes. Charles Barkley claimed that he was
(26:31):
misquoted in his own autobiography, which is one.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Of the great all time lines.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
He was getting criticism for something that was written in
his book and they said, oh, I was misquoted. When
you claim that you're misquoted in your own autobiography, it
goes to what you're saying, which is many people with
public platforms have limited to no responsibility. They meet and
have their thoughts recorded, and then a writer goes off
(26:56):
and they put it all together. And I bet Kamala
Harris didn't even read the totality of her book.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Well. Also, there's another part of this too, which is
the book that we're talking about here. It's not there's
some variations. Look, if you were the president, no one
thinks the former president is like sitting down and writing
an eight hundred page By the way, no one reads
those books either. People buy, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
To put them on the coffee table and send a
message about what kind of person they are.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean, I'll tell you I was given as a gift,
like George W. Bush's biography is boric. Okay, I didn't
learn anything. I'm like, I actually gave it away. I
give a lot of books away to use bookstores. And
if somebody has a need for a huge box of
conservative books that I've been sent that I did not
ask for, send it a VIP email and tell me
where I can send them that will actually get used
(27:44):
and read. Because people are always sending me their books.
We'll pick people that we think do good books and
they're friends of the show. But you know, I mean,
everyone wants to come on this radio show. I understand
for their books. I Clay, I think with back to Commo,
though this book wasn't an autobiography or a biography. It
was here is my expertise on criminal justice. Like, here's
(28:05):
me showing you what my knowledge and expertise is on
an issue that is really the centerpiece of my career.
And to assuming it was a ghostwriter. Look, if it's
not a ghostwriter, oh I'm sorry, Well then she's just
a crazy plagiarist, right, which is also possible. This is
a particularly this is a particularly egregious example of it,
because she was really using this as a credential. It's
(28:27):
not just to like, here's my life. Let's have somebody
turn this into a narrative.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I also think it goes and you hit on this
a bit earlier to I think the most lacerating attack
on Kamala Harris in this campaign is that she's profoundly
and authentic and the fact that even her book is
copied and pasted from elsewhere, it reinforces oh, we just
(28:51):
copied and paste the Joe Biden platform. It reinforces the idea.
I said this on Fox News earlier today with Bill
Hemmer and Dana Perino, that she doesn't do her homework. Buck,
she just doesn't do her homework.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Cover it's her. The cover is smart on crime. Oh man,
but you're asking for it. You're gonna plagiarize and you're
smart on crime. Book about your smarts on crime.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We Buck played the cut of jd Vance calling out
Martha raddicch rat ratits, and it's important the way he responded,
because it requires that you have done your homework on
an issue. You and I have to do tons of
hours of homework to sit down every day and talk
to all of you, and we want to make sure
we get our facts right, that we're aware of all
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the news stories that are out there. Kamala doesn't do
her homework. She seems to be a lazy politician. Some
politicians are super detail oriented. Rod DeSantis is reading all
the work himself. He's checking.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
He's the guy that you wanted on the group project
in college because you were going to get be able
to go out and drink beer and he'd have it
all done for you the next morning. That's right.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So he's doing his homework. Kamala Harris isn't. And so
this just goes more and more to if she's not
willing to put in the work, why does she deserve
a promate promotion for a job she's already done. She
can't even tell you answer questions about a job that.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
She already has.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
This is I think going to be as we sit
here twenty two days out, further panic every day as
we count down class.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I just have to think, what can they do if
they hired you and I and we were going to
be We're going to dispense with all principle, all care
for the future of the country, Like we were just
pure mercenaries for the Kamala campaign at this point, right,
just as a thought exercise. I don't know. I don't
know what they can do at this point other than
(30:45):
what they're doing, which is just, you know, let the
chips fall where they may. She's got to do some interviews,
she's got to sit down with Brett Bhaer because they
got to shake things up. Status quo is lost. They
know that, so, but I'm just saying, what could they
do that isn't you know? That's a difference from the
campaign status quo. I don't have any good, you know,
any good options here for them. You notice how little
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we're even talking about the four criminal trials against Donald Trump,
A meaning that no one cares. Okay, this is a
thing that like elites on the coasts who only watch
Morning Joe, which I missed this morning, sadly, this is
what they care about. No normal person cares about that.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
What they're running up against, Buck is everybody's already made
up their opinions about Donald Trump. And the problem that
she has is, if you look at the data, a
lot of people have decided they don't like Kamala Harris
on an even level with Donald Trump. That matters because
a lot of the people who don't like Trump don't
even dispute that he's.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Right on a lot of the issues.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Kamala doesn't even have any other than abortion, which they
have played to the end degree. What can you even
point to and say, hey, you know what, I can
see her winning on that issue. She's wrong on everything
and moreover, she's taken both sides of every issue.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And I know that, you know, there are some people
in the pro life community, and I understand this feeling
who think that Trump didn't take a hard enough line
on this, or they want them to take a different approach.
The worst thing that can happen is a Kamala Harris
presidency for life, for babies, for the unborn and the womb.
Trump's position of we're going to leave this to the states.
(32:23):
Everyone kind of knows it's we're going to leave it
to the states for now, but that has defanged I
think the issue this time. I remember Clay in twenty
twenty two, it was, oh my gosh, it just happened.
What's going to happen in these states? If you're live
in a Democrats state, you're getting abortions all over the place.
Nobody cares. The number of abortions has not changed, which
is you know, with the end of tragic but yeah, tragic.
But the political reality is it's tough to get people
(32:45):
that motivated over something that isn't really actually an issue
for them. And you know, in the Red States, I
think that people recognize, first of all, a lot of
Red states even obviously still allow abortion, so it's not
the issue. I hope if I will say this, I'll
put this marker down if Kamala Harris wins the election.
To me, it's a symbol that unfortunately, right now, abortion
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is a single issue that can actually just deliver the
presidency to Democrats. That's the only thing that I can
see because the whole January sixth stuff, like even the
Bill Maher audience when they tried to bring that up
in overtime. Go watch the overtime segment, by the way,
on YouTube. That was really good for Bill Maher on
Friday yours truly was there of course, Clay January sixth,
(33:29):
It's like, come on, guys, you know what I mean, like, really,
we're still we're still talking about this now, I mean
they are, but oh Trump, the insurrection. Oh boy, to
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