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October 30, 2024 39 mins

In this conversation, Tudor interviews actor Zachary Levi, who discusses his political endorsements, the impact of AI on the entertainment industry, and the pervasive corruption in politics. Levi shares his insights on the importance of voting for a team rather than just a candidate, the influence of media on public perception, and debunks common misconceptions about Donald Trump. The discussion highlights the need for unity and integrity in politics, as well as the challenges posed by lobbyists and the media. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we have with
us Zachary Levi. He is an actor and the founder
of Nerd HQ, also the author of the new book
Radical Love. But you may know him from the Shazam
movies or Tangled.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Or the TV show Chuck. Actually, Tangled is a huge
It's a huge movie.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I have four girls, four daughters, so in our house
we are big fans of Eugene. I don't necessarily I
would like them to meet a Eugene and like be
past his Flynn Ryder stage.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
So just so we're clear, it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
That makes sense as a model cares about her daughters.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, So I just want you to know it is
one of my favorite Disney movies. But that being said,
you have recently come out and.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
I has it.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I mean, you've endorsed Donald Trump. But your your reasoning
is so much deeper than that. And that's what I
wanted to talk to you about because I feel like
people hear that and.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
They're like, oh, he just loves Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
And the funny thing is, when I listen to you talk,
it's not that at all. It's the policies And it
was really a Bobby Kennedy thing. But you're this bigger
than life person who's come out and said this in
such a intelligent way that seems like it should just
make people think. And you've just asked people to think.
But it comes with some blowback, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
I mean, unfortunately, but it was all to be expected.
I mean, I listen, I've I've been blessed enough to
work in entertainment for twenty five years, and I hope
I get to do it for a lot longer, and
I think that I will. I think that you know,
whether or not I get hired by any of the
big studios for any more of their reindeer games, I
don't know. But the truth is, just to take a

(01:40):
quick little tangent, I really do believe that AI is
about to entirely eviscerate the entertainment industry as well as
many other industries.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
So please, for everyone listening to.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
This podcast, just just you know, perk up your ears
a bit more, open your eyes a bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
AI is very real, it's very powerful.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
AI in and of itself, I think can be an
incredible gift for those who control the AI and use
it for whatever means they want to and ends that
they have. I do think it will displace millions of jobs,
millions and so in entertainment, I was looking at this, Well,
wait a minute. I am someone who professes and talks
about and has been, you know, banging the drum that

(02:18):
AI is coming for our jobs. So what am I
really afraid of? At the end of the day, and
I thought, and I prayed very deeply about making this
decision because I knew that I would be crossing the rubicon.
There's no coming back from this, there is no there's
no going and doing a town hall, you know, Tolsi.
She and I become friends. I shared my heart and
my concerns for the country, for my industry. And then

(02:41):
you know, a week later, she calls me and she goes,
would you want to moderate this town hall? Because she
knew that I had already been stumping for Bobby Kennedy.
I still think that guy is the dreamiest candidate ever.
I think he's the best candidate we've been given since
his father. Honestly, like I would have voted for him
ten times over.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
But that is not the reality that we're in. The
reality that we're in.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Is that not Trump and the Republicans but Kamala and
the Democrats made it impossible for Bobby to run.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
That is a fact.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
And because of that, I do think we ended up
with a silver lining in all of it because then Trump,
right after his attempted assassination, and I believe a very
moment of great clarity and humility, recognize that everything that's
on the line is far bigger than just him getting
back into office.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I think he was.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Already wanting to salvage his image, right. I think that
there's an ego obviously in that man that wants to
be the biggest and the best. He wants to be
the best president that ever was. And I know that
he knows that he didn't do that the first time.
He did a good job. He did a far better
job than what Biden and Kamala have done in these
last four years. And I think a lot of people
are waking up to that. Take away all of the

(03:48):
talking points and all the propaganda on both sides, Just
take all of that away, all the messaging, and just
look at the last eight years of governance, and you
tell me which one of those two teams did a
better job. It's pretty obvious now. A lot of people
on the left would say, well, you know, Trump inherited
Obama's economy, and YadA, YadA. That's just more talking points.
As far as I'm concerned, I think that the data

(04:09):
is there. And so when you're someone like myself who
did not vote for Trump in either of these last
two elections, I voted libertarian, I voted my conscience, I
was like, I can't, I will not. I do not
believe in either of the candidates that I'm being offered here.
And I also believe that this nefarious lie that we've
been fed, all of us in the United States for

(04:30):
so long, really really since Perro is well, you know,
a vote for a third party is a wasted vote,
and we've all.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Just believed this nonsense.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
And so that's why a third party never has a chance,
because we've all just been indoctrinated. And by the way,
it's the only thing that both the right and left
agree on, it's the only thing I agree on. A
vote for a third parties is a wasted vote because
they don't want any of that interfering.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
And Bobby would have been that.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I really do believe that if there would have been
no shitanery and we actually had really clean, honest elections
and and process.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Then I really think Bobby could have won.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
But I think that Dick Cheney would say, you are
voting for a third party.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well, yes he would, because he's a warhawk. He's a
neocon warhawk who's very much involved in the military industrial complex.
And it's shocking to me that there are lifelong Democrats
who have been so anti war who have now been
you know, like a frog in a pot. I mean,
this is how it works. We're all just cooked a

(05:28):
little bit at a time, and so you don't realize
that the goalpost has moved so far away from what
you actually believed in you're voting with party, You're like ah.
And also the propaganda is very strong when all of
the I won't call mainstream media the legacy media, because
really the mainstream is all of this now, which is amazing,
the podcasts and you know, all of these various journalists
and rumble and sub stack, I mean not the media

(05:51):
has really become an incredibly diverse place, and as it
should be, of lots of different.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Ideas challenging each other in order to get to the
bottom of what is true.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
I mean, the way that science should be behaving, and
yet even science is not behaving in this way because
there's agenda. There's agenda because you have massive industry with deep,
deep pockets who are paying lobbyists to pay politicians, and
then we get legislation that is responsible for the poisoning
of our food, our air, our water, our resources.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
The fact that we can't get energy.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
To everyone in this country, the fact that we are
some of the sickest people in the world.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
We are the United.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
States of America, and we are failing in all of
these categories is an indictment of the corruption in our government.
And so someone who did not want to vote for
Donald Trump, who wanted to vote for Bobby Kennedy, but
who watched all of this stuff go down and then
see Bobby somebody that I know and that I trust,
and Tolcy Gabbert, who I know and I trust, and
I have talked to them personally and I have asked them,

(06:49):
I go, guys, you need to tell me you're making
this endorsement. I know that we need to sometimes make
these political affiliations and YadA, YadA.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Do you really believe he means this? Do you really
believe that he cares?

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Do you really believe that he's telling the truth when
he says that he's bringing you guys on to go
clean up the swamp that he couldn't clean up the
first time.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
And they, without missing a beat, they looked me in
the eyes and they say absolutely. And that's the moment.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's why I say, when I hear you, when I
hear the way you describe this, I'm like, I mean,
you are bringing together groups of people that aren't a party.
It is people that want to do the right thing.
And you talk about that's always been kind of your calling.
You've always kind of felt God pulling you toward just
doing the right thing.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
How do you help others? How do you take care
of other people?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's what I keep hearing from this campaign in
new and different ways, And that is because of a
Bobby Kennedy coming in and saying, we're not going to
allow our kids to get sick anymore. And to me,
that is one of the keys right now as a parent,
as someone who at a young age had breast cancer
when we don't have cancer in our family, and I
was like, how did I get cancer? You know? And

(07:55):
then you see the difference in kids, like when I
look at the kids that are it's in school with
my kids. Just the difference in activity level, energy level,
weight than from when.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
We were kids. It's shocking.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And I say to myself what he says resonates with
me because this is all happening and it's out of
our control.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
And I think, like you, you mentioned something on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
You were like, well, when I got behind the curtain
of Hollywood, it was a lets different than what I thought.
And I think it was the same for me with
politics when I got behind the curtain and had I
won in that last election, I think, like Trump, you said,
Trump didn't do as much as he could have in
the first term, but he will in the next.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I don't think he would have in consecutive.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Terms because I think he had to be out to
see how corrupt it is.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
There had to be that Bobby Kennedy moment.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, but when your eyes are open suddenly you're like, wow,
there's this is really messed up.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
The lobby is the corruption, It's messed up.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, listen Trump, He's been very honest about this, and
Bobby Trump has talked to it. But Bobby's also talked
about his conversations with Trump regarding these things, Trump didn't
even think he was gonna win. Trump, in his typical
Trump fashion, was like, all right, I'll go These people
are all asking me to go do this thing. This

(09:14):
is talk about some of the best publicity I could
ever have to build my businesses and marl Lago, and
I'm like, all right, great, cool, I'll go do this thing.
I'll do it on a lark whatever.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Like fine.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
He in his own words is said he wasn't even
really sure that he was going to win, and then
he did, and then he was really the first president
of the United States that hadn't come up in the grinder,
that hadn't come up in this thing that when as
a young senator, you might come in and you have
all the dreams and all the passion to make the
world a better place. But then a lot of these

(09:48):
young representatives and senators they quickly find out, hey, listen,
we know you got a big heart and you want
to change the world. You want to do good, but
you're gonna have to towe some lines and make some
compromises with all of these different things. I know, but
this is what you got to do. And if you
do it, then we're gonna promote you, and promote you
and promote you until finally you get to go and
be a leader in this country. By that point, they've

(10:09):
all sold their soul ten times over. They are in
the pocket of every possible lobbyist and industry and everything else.
And Trump came in, by the way, not without his
own selfish agendas or ideas or whatever. Like I said,
I think he absolutely saw this as an opportunity to
do better in his life. But he really did. I
think he saw an opportunity because he saw that it

(10:31):
was all broken. You can go see interviews of Trump,
like back in the eighties. He's talking about these things.
It's crazy, but he knew it was all broken, and
he thought, in his hubris, I'm gonna get in there
and I'm gonna go do it. But what he didn't
realize is that he was outgunned. And he says this,
he got in there, he had no time for his
transition team. He got surrounded by sikapans and swamp monsters
that twisted him up. And he put a bunch of

(10:52):
people in power that he never should have put in power.
And he acknowledges this, and then they kind of they
just spun him, and he did as best he could.
Amongst all of that, he still did a good job,
I think, better than the last four years of Harris
and Biden. But he knows, Like to your point, sitting
out now, after these last four years circling the wagons,
getting people together, getting everybody in the Republican Party, a

(11:14):
party that really was kind of like in shambles even
in twenty twenty, Like people are like, what's going on
a lot of infighting still is. There's some infighting because
there's the neocons versus everybody else whatever. But now with
this team, like, and this is one of the things
I tried to explain in the Instagram Live, You're never
just voting for a president. You're voting for a president
and a vice president and everyone else that is going

(11:35):
to be a part of their transition team and their
cabinet and everything else. Right the fact that I already
know right now, I have no idea other than Walls.
I have no idea who Kamala, I have no idea
what her policies are, and I have no idea who
else she's going to want to bring in. But when
it comes to Donald Trump, I know for a fact.
I get jd Vance, Who's I think fantastic. He could
have run for president himself. Vivek elon Tolcy, Bobby, You've

(11:55):
got a dream team of people of very differing types
of backgrounds and points of view who will collaborate in
a unification in a way we've never really seen. And
they are going to clean up the corruption. I believe
it with everything in me. So do I have to
hold my nose a little bit as I vote for
Donald Trump? Because yes, he doesn't always say or do

(12:15):
all the things that I.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Wish a president would do. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I use an example on the Instagram wife when he
was doing his debate with Kamala and he had a
perfect opportunity to hold her feet to the fire about
the border, and she goes and makes some comment about
how his rallies are small and people walk out of him.
His egol wouldn't let him. He was like, my rallies
are the biggest that nobody walks out. It's like, bro,
come on, come on, Like that is not presidential.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
That is so dumb. You were acting like a child
in that moment.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
I don't want that, but I can easily I can
absorb that if it means I'm going to get somebody
who's not a puppet of the deep state and who's
going to actually clean it up.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
We got to clean it up.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. So it's funny that you say this.
You make me think about it in a different way,
because sometimes my mind thinks about things in terms of
Disney movies because I have four kids, and I don't
know if you've ever seen the movie Aladdin, but at
the at the end many times, okay, so you know

(13:17):
when when Jafar wants to be like the most powerful
genie and Aladdin's like, I'm going to get him. I mean,
that kind of is the same situation you hear Donald
Trump's like, what if I've done everything, why don't I
become president of the United States?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Then I've got all the power.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
But then when you get in you find out, oh,
it's not the president that has the power, it's the
machine that has the power. And the only way to
break that machine is the team. And that's what I
love about the way you talk about it. I'm vuning
for him, You're voting for the team, And what an
interesting point of view because you know, I've watched the
team go around the country and you're like, Okay, it's

(13:53):
it's best to have this person here.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Is it best to have that person there?

Speaker 1 (13:56):
But that person each one of these people resonates with
a different group and they go, Okay, that's my guy,
and he's going to go in and know he's going
to take care of this. And to me, just like you,
I see that the chemicals in our food. I didn't
even understand lobbying until and the extent of it until
I ran for office and I saw the people that

(14:17):
come around you. Oh, in case you get in, I
want to give you this money, but you're going to
give me that.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
And I'm like, whoa, this is messed up. No wonder
we are in the situation we're in.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, And it's been going on, you know, since time immemorial.
I mean, i'd like the corruption, this is not something new.
This is something that we have. Absolutely. I will say
that I think probably coming out of World War two,
the military industrial complex, that's when it really kicked on.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
That's when it really kicked on to a whole other level.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Right, But there's always been lots of backroom deals and
glad handing and Greece palms for certain moguls to get
what they want legislatively through our government, and you know,
making people rich in the process.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
All that stuff's been going on. I think that unfold.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Fortunately, there we just have a few dynamics that are
making all of this a lot more difficult. One of
them is going back to the legacy media.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
You know, we.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I have so many more liberal, progressive Democrat friends that
are wonderful human beings that want to this world to
be unified and healed just as much as I do.
The difference between us is that they still trust CNN
and MSNBC and CNBC and all of the rest of
that legacy media. I don't, and nor do fifty percent

(15:40):
or so of the nation. Right You've got fifty percent
that we'll look at or whatever the numbers are right now.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
I'm actually hoping and believing that this is going to
be a far larger win for Trump than some eking out,
you know, because I don't want there to ever be
some oh election was stolen.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Not going No. I want this to be decisive.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
I want this to be something where people on the
left recognize, Oh wow, maybe we don't have our fingers
on the pulse of America because that many people voted
for Donald Trump. So maybe we're not being fed something
that's true.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
People don't want to censor us.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well, absolutely right.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
But if you go and look like I do, I
follow a wide range of different people on social media,
I don't listen to or or I mean, I listened
to clips of legacy media as they're distilled through social media,
but I do not go to them for the facts
because I do believe that they as an institution, are
captured by this part of the government that should not

(16:33):
be in any way, shape or form influencing them whatsoever. Also,
big industry pharmaceutical companies spend so much seventy five percent
of the ads on the news are pharmaceutical companies, and
they're not doing that because they are selling more pharma
through those ads. They do it so that they can
have a vice grip on the news networks, so that

(16:54):
if the news networks start holding them accountable, they go, well,
we'll take your funding away, and so.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Then what do they do.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Then everyone at CNN and MSNBC, they're like, don't bite
the hand that feeds you, okay, we won't go there.
And then it's the government and if the government is
backing them up and saying, oh, you don't need to
look over there.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
No, no, they're fine. They didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
No, no, no, stay the course and say these horrible things
about this guy Donald Trump. Now, does Trump do himself
any favors when he goes out and he says stupid stuff. No,
he doesn't. And I wish that he didn't. I wish
that he wasn't as boorish or brutish or whatever his trumpiness.
I say, you know, whatever that is, I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
But he is being absolutely painted in certain lights and
with certain brushes that are just simply not true. One
of those things being like the whole fine people hoax. Right,
The Kamala continues to say, the Democratic Party continues to say,
and the mainstream legacy media continues to part, even though
it's been debunked over and over and over and over again.

(17:55):
He called out all of those that were racist white supremacists,
and it said no room for those people.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
He was not talking about those people.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
He was talking about find people on both sides of
an issue which was there's this statue that's being torn
down at historical statue. Whether you like the Confederate army
or the people that fought for the Confederacy or not,
this is a piece of history whatever it is, right,
But so there, if you believe and your only sources
of information really are the legacy media and their tend rules,

(18:22):
then of course, even if you're a really well meaning,
wonderful human being, you're gonna think that Trump is hitler.
That's what they keep saying. They've been saying it for
months and months. By the way, they've said that about
every single Republican candidate for the last and elections. I mean,
it's this is a talking point, right, this is what
they do.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well, it's control through fear. Yes, there's one.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
It's controlled through fear and fear and the fear mongering
and and the and the blaming and the shaming and
all of the things. Right, but beyond that too they
I think that unfortunately we have lost logic, reason and
rational thought as foundational concepts of how we ought to
carry ourselves and interact with one another. We have spun

(19:07):
out into an emotionalist type of universe now, and which is,
by the way, not to say we should not be
in tune with our emotions.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
We should.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Absolutely men, particularly we have been burying these things mental
health and crises and all this. Like, absolutely, let us
tap into and understand what we're feeling, but recognize that
we are responsible for what we feel, not everybody else,
first and foremost, but more than that, but more than that,
let us not be pulled this way and that by
our heartstrings, because they are. There are issues everywhere. I

(19:40):
said this on my live stream. I absolutely believe that
every issue is important in its own right, but we
have to be willing to say that there is a
level of importance right. So women's reproductive rights, that is
an issue. It's an important issue. We all need to
talk about it. I can't wait for there to be
a an actual bipartisan committee of legislators and doctors and

(20:04):
scientists and spiritual people and whatever that is, and they
sit down and they hash out, hey, when does life begin?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Because you've got.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
People over here that say it's that conception and that's it.
And you've got people over here that say life doesn't
somehow begin until after the full grown child leaves the
vaginal canal, which I think is bananas. It's bananas that
we would ever even be contemplating aborting a child that's
that fully grown just somehow isn't outside of the mother
that's murdered, in my opinion, But is there somewhere in

(20:33):
the early gestational time that one might make an argument.
Now listen, I'm not saying I would do more than
willing if they if everyone came together and said no, Actually,
it turns out scientifically, spiritually, everything else that spark of
life that happens at inception, that is life, and we
would be doing other you know, murder otherwise.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
The point is that I'm making is if you look
at that as an issue women's reproductive rights, well, that's
fifty percent of the population, and it's not even and
of that fifty percent, it's how many women ultimately that
are that are of birthing age and that would run

(21:13):
into these specific issues. Is not a zero, but it
is a much smaller number, let's say, than the amount
of people that are being poisoned by the horrible toxic
ingredients in all of our food, in all of our water,
in all of our products, in our air. That's everyone,

(21:34):
that's you and me, that's every black person, Latin person,
Asian person, gay person, straight person, that's literally every single person.
And if we can't prioritize through logic and reason that
that is a more important thing to be voting on,
to be fixing. While by the way, Roe V Wade
Ginsberg herself said should have been we should have kept

(21:54):
it at a state level, right Like, it's not like
it's this sweeping thing where no woman can get an abortion.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Right now.

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Speaker 2 (23:04):
After this.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
You say I'm willing to sit down and have the conversation,
I will tell you that a few weeks ago, I
sat down with a group of hair supporters who didn't
know who I was, and they went through their stories
about why abortion was important to them, stories I would
never hear from a Democrat had they known who I was.
And I was like, Okay, it's different when I hear

(23:28):
it from someone, like it's different to have a conversation.
But we've become the society that is so opposed to
sitting down and having the conversation once.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
You hear something.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Actually, when I saw you do the town hall, it
was like a bittersweet moment for me because I'm like,
I love him. I think he's so talented. I love
watching his stuff, and I hope this doesn't end his career.
Like I'm happy that he feels this way, but I
love supporting the work that he does. And what if
I don't get that chance, And what if he doesn't

(23:57):
get to do more work because of this. That's the
feeling that you have when you're on this side of
the aisle. It's funny because I know that Ben and
Jerry ice cream people hate me, But when I've had
a bad day, and even when liberals are mean to me,
I go and eat Ben and Jerry's, you know, like
I still support them because they make really good stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
But it doesn't go the other way. Always well and listen.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
And that's one of the other unfortunate underpinnings of our
issues right now, right is that we the media. That's
a big problem triage, you know, being able to really
identify what's most important and work our way down World
War three most important in nothing else like there's it
won't matter if you can or cannot have an abortion

(24:40):
if the world is nuked. It won't matter if you
can or cannot have an abortion, if you can't even
get pregnant because you're being poisoned with your food, right.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like not some people don't know what is happening.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
They don't, they don't, but again, it is happening, right,
CALLI means and Casey means.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Wonderful.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
You made so many incredible, great, health conscious and knowledgeable
people that are fighting that fight now. And and you know,
obviously Bobby Kennedy leading that charge, which is fantastic. But
one of the other issues that we and this is
a very drastic one, is that the fear mongering. Really
what it's become is you know, if you go back

(25:16):
and look at debates Nixon, Kennedy, there's so much decorum,
there's so much respect, there's there's it was similar to
Walls and Vance, right. Everyone saw the Trump Harris debate
and we're like everyone watched the Vans and Walls and
like sides, everyone was like, you know what, love done, guys,
well done. That's what the debate should be, right, And

(25:38):
you know why, because neither of them were taking this
stance that it's a holy war. But what has happened,
by and large is that from a party standpoint, and
this is I think on both sides, both sides are
guilty of this, but I do believe the left is
let's say a little bit more guilty of it is
that is because Trump is not saying that Kamala is

(25:59):
hit right, Pamala and the Democrats are.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
That's holly war status.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
That's like, that's like really trying to to make your
followers so religiously zealous that they are willing to look
past and disregard the humanity of the human beings on.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
The other side of the aisle.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
That means, you know, like, and it's one thing if
you want to look past and disregard the humanity of
the person they're calling hitler, but then you are lumping
all of the supporters, all of the people who might
not love the guy, but see that from a policy perspective,
he's the better way to go. We're all now Nazis.
That's what you're saying. And you think that you are
the party that is fighting for the right, that is

(26:43):
fighting fighting for the light for good.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
That's not good. That's not light, that's darkness.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
That's using hate to go and somehow squash people and
to bury people and to cancel people. And I'm sorry,
but if anyone using those tactics, and there are many,
many people and they feel very self righteous in them
in their doing right. They're like, well, I'm fighting a
good fight, and I said, all my life, I'm like, listen, guys,
if that's what you're doing, you're actually not someone who's

(27:10):
fighting for everyone. You're only fighting for you and people
that you like and people that are agreeing with you.
And I'm not about that. I'm going to fight for
every single human being. I don't care if you agree
with me or not. That was the great thing about
the United States, and that we were able to our
founding fathers like them or lumpem warts and all. They
were brilliant human beings that understood what it meant to

(27:30):
create a government that was a solution to the empires
that predated everything up to this democracy, and they did
everything they could do to safeguard it, including the First
and Second Amendments and all of these things, and saying
and by the way, in a classic liberal who who
had said, I might hate what you're saying, but I'll
fight to the death to defend your right.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
To say it. That is what the First Amendment is about.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
And for Kamala and Hillary and everybody else to becoming
out being all, we got to this miss him for that,
we got a sensor well, who determines what's misinformation.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
You don't get to determine what that is.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
If that means that anyone who's empower and gets the
that's a big brother, that's George, that's that's Orwellian, That's
not what we want. So that is yet another very
big issue that's going on. Very good people, very good
people on both sides, who become so indoctrinated with a
this I gotta we gotta hate that, whoever that is

(28:28):
and whoever supports them, And if that is what's coming
out of anyone at any time, and I do believe,
and I will, I will acknowledge.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
These are some of the times that I wish Donald
Trump would be less.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Uh uh uh involved in rhetoric that can be misconstrued
like that, be more careful with his tongue, be more
loving with this tongue, be more empathetic with this tongue.
Recognize that it is far greater to be able to
look at your opponent and have pity on them, like
literally have pity on them, instead of having you know,
throwing barbs and sarcasm and stuff like I hate it.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I hate it.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
All Across the board, there are people that I think
make really excellent points and all that, but they do
it with this, with this arrogance and a humorist and
a sarcasm putting down the other side and the gous
nobody's hearing that all you're doing is preaching to the choirs.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yes, I mean, and I see a lot of people,
I will say, a lot of people on our side
that it's like this shaming of America.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
And I always say so.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
My dad used to say to me, you're never going
to walk into a meeting and throw around a lot
of curse words and have everybody go, wow, I want
to work for you.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
If you come into a meeting and you put everybody down,
they're going to walk out and you're going to have
a terrible day of production.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Because you know, we were a foundry people.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
So he was very against that, and I see that
in so many young people today because it's like it
makes money, you know, it gets clicks, it goes viral
to go out and get angry with people. But you
actually have an interesting background on this too, because you
work with a lot of people that are struggling with
mental health, and you really work on mental health awareness,

(29:59):
and I do think that going on to college campuses
and putting everybody down creates this divide, and it doesn't
right now.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I think it's the time to bring people together.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
And you make such great points with such a cheerful voice.
It's so different because I do think there are a
lot of people struggling with mental illness, and I know
people ask you about it all the time because of
your book and talking about loving yourself, and I just
want to close on how you've done that and where
that comes from in you, and how people can kind
of seek that part of you out as well.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
I would say, you know the mental health journey that
I'm on that I've been on now for seven you know,
just over seven years. Twenty seventeen, I was thirty seven
years old. I just moved to Austin, Texas with these
big dreams of building this vision that God gave me
many many moons prior.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
To that of I want to fix Hollywood. How do
I fix Hollywood?

Speaker 4 (30:49):
I got to build a new type of Hollywood that's
a movie studio, but a living community kind of built
into it, like a Kibbutz soun steroid.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
It's like a really fun, like amazing.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah, immunity, work, you know, live, work, play space and
all these dreams and all these passions, and I get
out to Austin and I completely fell apart for myriad reasons.
I didn't want to live anymore, didn't know why. Fortunately,
I had friends and family that were able to booy
me long enough for me to get to therapy and
save my own life and therapy and that was a

(31:22):
whole incredible journey, Like I talked about in Radical Love,
the book, but that I found out for the first
time in my life as a thirty seven year old man,
I didn't love myself. I didn't even know what self
love really was, and that broke my heart in.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
And of itself. I was like, oh my god, I
had no idea, no idea.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
And so I've been on a really incredible journey since
then of learning to love myself and helping other people
to do the same thing, because I think that once,
if you are blessed enough to walk through the fire,
then it is beholden on you to grab pails of water.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
To bring back to those who were still in the flames.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
And I realized too the profundity of a wow, like
really every problem that we have Everything that we're dealing
with right now in this election, everything we're dealing with
in this world.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Can all be.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Traced back if you go upstream of every single issue, small, medium,
and large.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
If you trace that back upstream, you will.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Find a broken head or a broken heart. That's what
you will find. Every murderer or a rapist, every thief,
every warmonger, every everything, all the greed, all the it's
all someone who is broken inside. A child of God
that might be doing horrible things in the world, but
it's because they are a product of their environment. And
we all cerebrally, I think we all kind of love

(32:45):
or like to say, yeah, I believe that. But then
when it comes to people that are behaving in ways
that we don't like, we want to go a demon,
evil monster as opposed to being like, yo, I do
not agree with you at all. And also you're still
actively doing bad things, so we need to restrain you
and possibly even put you in jail. But we're going
to see you through the eyes of a God that

(33:05):
loves you because you are worthy of that love. We're
going to try and do that. And I think that
you know Scripture speaks to that. Within the you know,
a Judeo Christian type of branch, but also you can
find a lot of that stuff and other very wise
deep philosophy of recognizing that we are products of our environment.
And I think that psychology, modern psychology, really understands that.

(33:27):
And so because I have always felt ever since I
was a little kid, and I and I this it
sounds kumbaya, but I swear to God, I have always
loved people. I have always felt a deep love and
and and heartbreak for when I see anyone, anyone that
that is flailing, that is hurting, that the injustices of

(33:50):
the world, it angers me to no end that there
are people that still take advantage, particularly of children, but
really of anyone, and that people are suffering because of that.
And so my whole life, I've wanted to fight for
what is right and fight for anyone and everyone that
is being taken advantage of it and help hopefully make.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
This world a better place.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
But if I can help to do that in helping
people to heal their hearts and minds, if we can
heal everybody's hearts and minds, everybody's gonna have a brilliant
time on this planet. I mean it would be amazing,
because you wouldn't have people that are like the greed.
So much of what we're dealing with right now is
downstream of greed, which is downstream of fear right people that,
oh I don't have enough. I don't have enough, so

(34:29):
I need to make another billion dollars. Oh I don't
have enough. So look at all these ways that the
government said, I can take advantage of that thing or
that thing, and I can make more money for myself,
and then I can go on my yacht and go park,
get next to other yachts and we can all brag
about how big our yachts are. Like, what are we
even talking about while people are starting to death. This
is what we're doing because their egos are so fragnal

(34:49):
that they need to have the biggest boat in the world.
Like it's ridiculous. But if those people, if their parents
loved them holy, if they had an actual like gnaw
unfractured soul, if they love themselves without having to have
all the trappings in order to love themselves, man, could
you imagine where they what they would do with all
that wealth. Could you imagine the ways in which they

(35:10):
would invest it back into this world? And help everybody,
and that's what.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
We got to sound.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
So it is, it is, it is, and I think
it's possible. But like I said, I think that you're
not going to get there by shaming people there. We
cannot hate our way to a better future. We can
only love our way there. We can love our way there.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
And so that can do that perfect quote.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
I love it that way in any way that I
can do it.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
And I think that, you know, with the nerd HQ,
I started it as a big fun event that I
did at toan Diego Comic Con for many years, and
we did panels and and photo ops and signings all
for charity, and we would do big dance parties and
but we were raised a bunch of money for for
a great nonprofit called Operation Smile that does cleft lips
and palates and things like that. Great organization. But once

(35:59):
I went through my mental health and I was like,
you know, I can't fight for anything stronger than I
can for mental health.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
So I got to fight.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
That's got to be my cause. And so I rebranded
nerd HQ to now be a full five oh one
C three and we're going to do events and things
like that but we take donations. You can go to
the website nerdhq dot org. We take donations. We have
like auctions of celebrity signed things and whatever all that
is we're going to have. We're building a community kind
of like message boards and chat rooms and things so

(36:25):
people can come and have a place of community. Community
is so lacking in this world right now. We need
to bring people not just online but in person. Right
That's what the events are about. But our goal, my goal,
a bottom line is I want to raise all the
money in the world so that I can pay I
think that I think that it used to be that
the barrier of entry for people going to therapy was

(36:45):
that people didn't think they needed therapy, right People were
afraid of therapy. But we've actually done a really good
job as a people in this world to destigmatize that.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Awesome.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Now the barrier of entry is people can't afford it.
So if they can't afford it, they will pay for it.
So nerd HQ is just a big fund to literally
pay for people's therapy. That's what we're doing. So you
can come on. We're working with an incredible organization called
Timely Care, and you can and we will onboard our
first four hundred people. You will have a seat within

(37:14):
that program. You can go get emergency services, you can
get education, and you can start setting up actual appointments
with therapists because you are deserving. Everyone deserves to.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Live a healthy and happy life.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
And if our governments is not going to spend our
hard earned tax dollars that we give them all the
time to take care of our own populace and instead
send billions and billions and billions to foreign countries for
their aid, which by the way, is not to say
that other countries don't need help, but they don't need
help over our people. If we're only giving seven hundred
and fifty dollars to people who lost everything in Hurricane Helene,

(37:47):
if we're only giving seven hundred dollars to people that
lost everything and their homes burned down in Lahina, we
are not doing the job that we need to be doing.
And then on top of all of that, the way
that we could be giving people mental health, that we
could be helping them to become better people, if our
government's not going to step up and do it, then
by god, we're going.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
To do it privately. So that's what nerd HQ's about.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
I love it. You are such an inspiration. Honestly, I'm
so glad that we got to talk today. I just
I hope that you are able to continue to be
a loud voice.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
But I know you are, Like I just know that
whatever you're going.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
To you can tell, you can feel it in the
way you talk and the way you speak, that what
you do in life is going to be meaningful. And
there's so I could talk to you for hours about
this stuff because I think that there's so much that
we have in common. I think there's so many people
out there that feel this way and you just don't
get to express it.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
So, Zachary LEVI thank you so much for being on today.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. God bless you,
God bless your whole audience. God bless America. May we
get to the other side of this election. And regardless
of the election results, though I really really hope and
believe it's going to be Donald Trump because of his
entire team, I really hope that regardless we're all able
to see each other as God's children and love all.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I could not agree more. I could not agree more.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
And we thank you all for listening today to the
Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, you can get it at
the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
And join us next time. Have a blessed day.

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