October 31, 2024 • 36 mins
Bill Clinton says economy was better under Trump. Clay's Halloween prep. Joe Kernan vs. Phil Murphy on Kamala's economic policy. What's your favorite 80s horror movie villain?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The second hour of play, and Buck kicks off right now.
I gotta tell you, Clay, I almost set of Trump
and Kamala kicks off her now, because.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
That's what's the top of mind. We're in the midst
of the absolute peak of.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
The election cycle, and I just ran up a flight
of stairs at light speed because I realized that we
were in a commercial break that was coming to an end.
So let me say this as I am catching my
breath here at Play. Some of the things that we
are seeing from the Kamala campaign you would absolutely expect,
(00:38):
which would be the phrases about how she's going to
help the middle class and all the stuff about how
she hates Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
One area where I think she has particular.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Weakness is on the economy, because I view it as such.
Kamala has been the vice president for four years. She
has been part of an administration that has been the
steward of the economy. Now, if we're gonna play the
game that they always do, which is it was Obama's
economy when it's good, It's Trump's economy when it's bad,
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or you know whatever, they like to pretend that you
can't actually ascribe any economic good things or bad things
to any individual administration. That's nonsense that I think is
just an indicator of how much the Kamala Biden economy
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has been an absolute mess. So when Bill Clinton is
up there in Muskegan, is that right?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
How do you do? I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, in Michiganian Miskegan Heights, Michigan. I just don't want
to offend the good people of Miskegan Heights by saying
it wrong Miskegan Heights, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Bill Clinton's like, well, yeah, I mean the economy was
better under Donald Trump, but this is eighteen play it.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I don't think it's right to say that people have
to vote for Donald Trump because the economy was better there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Not a good enough reason apparently to vote because the
economy was better. You know, they've they've put out all
of these different Democrats. They wish they didn't have to
have the current occupant of the White House, Joe Biden,
as somebody who is a surrogate for Kamala out there,
but they do clay on the economic issue. I saw
(02:30):
the Governor of New Jersey and I'll grab some of
this audio for everybody in a back and forth with
one of the guys on the squawk Box, the NBC
show Forget I forget his name, but Kernin, I think
his name is Kernin.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And he asked the governor of New Jersey. He goes, Hey,
what is the Kamala economic policy that you like?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Not?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Donald Trump? Is Hitler?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Not?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, this is our democracy. These are meetingless phrases.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, And just to be clear, as they're lecturing us
about fascism and autocracy, every autocracy, every fascist. There's a
reason they call it the People's Republic of China. There's
a reason why they call it the democratic People's Republic
of North Korea. Right, they try to take the language
of democracy, human rights, dignity, et cetera and use it
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for the worst regimes possible. Using the words means absolutely nothing.
In fact, it's often a tell the people who are.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Like, we're all about democracy.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Every dictator says that they're about the people always. But
Clay when he tries to get some push or when
he tries to push the government of Jersey Phil Murphy,
who's a big Democrat, but it was also a Wall
Street guy. That's the whole point, Right, He's a former
Wall wasn't he a senior guy at Goldman Sachs. He's
trying to push him on what the best Kama policy is.
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He can't think of one and every economic policy that
there's any discussion of from Kamala. Harris right, whether it's
taxing unrealized gains.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
What is what is fair taxation?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
This is she's gotten away with an entire campaign of
saying we're gonna, you know, make people pay their fair share,
which is an obamaism by the way, Obama used to
say that too means nothing, right, I mean this is
this is very much a time when I think people
could go back and read Orwell's Animal Farm and they
will understand the slogans. It's all, of course meant to be.
(04:27):
It's really a biting satire of the Soviets. But saying
things like pay your fair share, what is that? It
means nothing, It's it's whatever you say it is. And
I just think that people are recognizing the Kamala campaign
has no economic policy that they're willing.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
To say out loud.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I there are several stats about the way that we
focus on taxation now that drive me crazy. But one
of them, Buck is you know over half of Americans
don't pay a dollar in federal income tax. If you
are listening to us right now, and you pay one
dollar in federal income tax, you are in the top
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half of tax payers in America. So when they run
around and try to say, oh, we've got to make
sure the rich pay their fair share, I believe the
top twenty percent pays eighty percent of all federal income tax.
That seems way more than a fair share to me.
And look, I've been in the camp where I didn't
make very much money and I didn't have to pay
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very much in taxes, and now fortunately I make a
lot more money. But I don't feel like the money
that I'm giving to the federal government is in any
way by and large being spent well. I think that
I could spend it better to try to help America
to a large extent than the federal government could. And
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this is why, big picture, our federal budget is broken.
And I love the idea of I would vote for
Trump just based on Hey, Elon Musk, go look at
the federal budget and figure out what we can just
try and cut. Because Elon says he thinks he could
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find two trillion dollars in savings in our federal budget.
Wouldn't you like to have somebody as smart as Elon
Musk just going through the federal budget line by line.
He fired seventy five percent of the people at Twitter,
and the company works just as well as it did before.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I actually percentage of federal he's going to be fire. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I know a lot of people that are making real
money off of X now no longer Twitter. Yes, but
that was never the case before. Twitter was getting a
free ride off of everybody else. Now you're really a
partner with Twitter, and you also have free speech as
a result of it. I think Elon Musk going in
and with a chainsaw in the federal budget. You have
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to do it, and it would be scary to some
people right the notion of how much he would cut
when you'd start look at what cutting a trillion or
two trillion dollars out of the federal budget would look like.
It's going to touch things that people don't want to
be touched. This is one of the problems we have.
You cannot win in American politics right now. If you
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are serious about tackling the debt, and if you really
want to start to pay it down. You cannot win.
You will not win. Donald Bright very in favor of
all entitlements.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
That's the reality.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
What you need is effectively a shock therapy where Elon
Musk and his team, because he would build a team
to do this, comes in and they go, we are
going to unshackle the productivity and private economy of the
American people from this be a myth of federal spending
and then the prosperity and the explosion of real wealth,
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not money printing, which is just meant to paper over
the fact that we're giving more to people than we
are producing in some sectors. The money printing is a
death sentence for our economy over the long term. Elon
comes in under a Trump administration dramatically cuts that budget,
they will freak out. They will say it at the end,
but they've already said that we're all hitler, So who
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really cares? And Clay would be remarkable. I mean, you'd
see it would be a little bit like Calvin Coolidge
back in the day, right, Calvin Coolidge brought income tax
rates down enormously, actually cut spending, cut the budget, and
they were always all cats and dogs living together. Mass
hysteria then, of course not Roaring twenties, massive economic advancements
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and a boom. I think that we could have a
tremendous amount of prosperity and a much better long term
financial security as a nation for all people if you
unleashed Elon in that regard. But remember, I think when
was Bastiat the law written. I think it's seventeenth century
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and Clay he was writing on the fiction of the
state as everyone thinking they can live at the expense
of everyone else, right, And it's true, it's true, true,
that's what the Democrats offer. They offer the fiction that
you can be effectively. Oh no, sorry, eighteen fifty. I
think seven hundred, eighteen hundreds, eighteen fifty. But that's what
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they offer, that everyone else will pay for all of
your stuff. I yes, And this is this is a
long range conversation. Five days we get an important election,
and the argument for Trump on the economy has already
been made, because we had the best economy in the
history of the United States when he was in for
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his first term, and that's why there is a nostalgic
desire for that to return. And all of their attacks
on Trump are predicated on COVID happening and largely blue
state and blue cities shutting down and forcing everybody to
go home and not work. February twenty twenty are the
greatest economic numbers that have ever existed.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Do you miss two and a half percent mortgages? Do
you miss inflation at one and a half percent two percent?
Do you miss your wages significantly outpacing the grate of inflation?
That is real money in your pocket for white, Black,
Asian and Hispanic individuals. If you miss all of that,
I believe Trump can return it if he's given the opportunity.
(10:18):
But what Buck's saying is so important. Whatever happens the
next four years, we have major structural issues that have
to be addressed over the next generation, over the next
two generations. If you're around our age, Buck, let's say
you're forty and you hope to live into your eighties,
I have zero faith that Social Security as it exists
now is going to be my safety net when I'm
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eighty years old living in the United States. Zero Because
the math just does a math, and at some point
that becomes a big, huge, massive obstacle towards economic growth
that we have to reckon with. But in the short term,
Trump is the right economic answer. But make mistake, no
matter who the president is, the challenges are still going
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to exist in the future, and candidates by and large
only want to focus on the present. They don't really
want to focus on the long long range. But the
way to solve this, I thought Art Leffert Laffer, who
was on with us, recently said, look, the growth rate
of the economy is the key. That's really how you
put America in a different stratosphere. We have to get
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up to four percent growth. We have to get up
to four percent plus growth, because then the amount of
money being brought in on all fronts. Rising tide lifts
all boats. It's not a complicated economic picture.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And there's also the the energy. People can ask, well,
what would what would Trump do? What's different? There's the
cutting of spending, the elimination of regulation enclage. When you see,
you know you run a business, and you know we're
running a business together. Now you see the stuff you
have to deal with that is really just all non
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productive rent seeking, the regulatory and government economy. Whatever business
you are in, whatever you're dealing with. If you're running
an autobody shop, if you're you know, if you're a
general contractor if you're you know, whatever it is, there
are all of these unnecessary and onerous costs put on
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you because unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, particularly at the federal but
often at the state level as well, decide that it's fair,
or it's sustainable, or it's equity.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You start to.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Pull all those shackles off the American people in the
American government just by approaching it with a common sense
attitude of isn't even the thing, We don't have to
worry about this, Why are you doing this? It would
be a dramatic It would be a sea change, I
think for the American economy. And this is what gets
me excited about the prospect of Trump two point zero
is to really just chang saw to the to the
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not just the deep state, but the bureaucrat state. We
need to unleash individual excellence in this country, and I
think Trump would do a better job of it by
far than Kamala. And if you've ever founded a small business,
if you've ever had to make payroll, if you have
ever had other people's ability to take care of their
families on your shoulders, then you know better than anybody
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out there, by and large on the Democrat side, how
to grow business and how to take responsibility for individual
success in this country. And Trump is going to do
a better job of that by far. Economics is not
even close if you have a functional brain in terms
of who's going to grow the country bigger, better and faster.
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out with us as we are rolling through the Thursday edition,
Halloween edition of the program.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Do you get a lot of trick or treaders at
your place in Miami or buy and large?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Is it like not a trick or treat universe? Uh?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
No, we did this so like you and carry will
not have any candy ready for anybody knocking on your
door at all. Nope, so I will be I'm not
even kidding about this in the probably ninety ninth percentile
of people who have their door knocked on for Halloween.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Now, I will be running around with my ten year old.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
But the amount of candy that we will give out,
and also Laura has bought my wife. I think I've
talked about this on the show before. We have a
while back, Fireball sent me a fireball shot machine, So
I have in my house a fireball shot machine. We
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set it up every Halloween. I think my wife has
forty bottles of fireball. And for the adults, for the
adults who are coming around on Halloween when their kids
get candy, we offer them shots of fireball whiskey. And
we will go through for adults walking around their kids
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about forty bottles of fireball tonight. So if you're in
the Franklin, Tennessee area, you may well come by in
our neighborhood. Not only do kids get a lot of candy,
but there are certain houses where adults can get alcohol.
It's a big party. I cannot wait. So I bet
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there will be a bunch of in my neighborhood. In
particular Buck Trump in garbage man gear and Trump in
uh Trump in the McDonald's gear. I'm expecting very much
more acclimated to the I mean, I know you do
the adult Halloween thing too, but you have kids, so
they're you know what I'm saying, like, you're in the zone.
I mean as much as I if we tried to
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dress Ginger up like a little pirate, she would yep
it off and chew it up, you know what I mean.
She's not into that. So I'm not in that zone yet. Well,
one of the fun times when you get young kids
is when you can start dressing them up for Halloween
for the first time. Now about two or three, they
can start to pick what they would like to be.
But those first couple of years, did you see Biden
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biting the kid who was dressed up like a turkey
at the White House Halloween party?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You saw this, right, Yeah, I mean this is crazy. Now.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I think he's trying to be funny, but he's so
weird that I saw this video and I was like,
what in the world is our president doing that. We've
got a guy biting little kids like their drumsticks in
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I had mentioned this before. I've done some deep diving
into the official Kamala economic policy side of things, and uh,
it is just a lot of jargon. There is no
there there. I'm not the only one who has figured
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this out either over at CNBC. Uh, you have Phil Kernan.
I think it's Phil Kernan, right, Phil Murphy, Joe Kernel,
thank you, yeah, Joe Kernan, Phil Murphy.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
There we go. You got Kernin and Murphy.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And I thought this Simpson, because it's not just okay,
he's a Democrat governor of a big state, New Jersey,
which he is. Murphy horrible on COVID by the way,
just throwing that out there. I remember because I was
living in New York at the time and in New Jersey.
I was seeing the press conferences too, and I was like,
you got to be kidding me, you know, the just
horrible stuff, idiot stuff. But anyway, Murphy was a he's
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a Wall Street guy, he's a rich guy, and so
he should understand how an economy works. I want you
to hear when Kernan is asking him straight up, just
explain to me the thing you like that, Kamala says, not,
that's like a concept, right, Like Clay, I'm going to
make everyone rich is a concept. I'm going to make
everyone rich. You can say that that sounds good, but
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it leaves open how what are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Right? I mean, Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
If you were a coaching a football team and you
went in before the game, you said, guys, we're going
to win this game, and that was all you said.
People might have some questions like, hey, coach, how are
we going to win this game? And that is at
its essence what is missing with kamala Ism, if you will,
there is no explanation.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
There's only these airy phrases.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
There's only you know it's And this is what happens
when when somebody who works in the world of financial
journalism asks somebody who understands finance, Hey, what do you
like about kamala Play the clip.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Please, Governor if we went on a checklist, you like
all the things that that you like Kamala Harrison not
just against that.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
So what are Let me ask.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
You, do you believe we should abolished a filibuster and
you can answer after I do it. How about getting
rid of private insurance? How about taxing unrealized gains? How
about nationalizing energy? How about mandatory gun buybacks like Australia.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
How about decriminalizing illegal.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Crossings, ending cash bail, h child gender reassignment surgery being
paid for in prison? I mean, what are your raising
the corporate tax rate. What are your favorite proposals from
Kamala Harris that make you like her so much?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Which is those for a Jersey guy?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
For a Jersey guy, you sound like you're on the
Trump campaign for credit out loud?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Okay, well, which of which of those do you like?
Which of those do you like?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I to tell you, He had no answer. We continue
that club, which maybe should play a little bit more
of it. There's first of all, he goes out domin mklay,
which is always a big tip off. Right, Oh, I
always trying to be kind of funny. He's like, you're
a Jersey guy, you should know better.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
No, this is the real, honest. What is the thing
that Kamala Harris has said she will do, not a feeling,
she will evoke. The thing she will do that will
accomplish anything? You know? What is the lever that will
be pulled that will result in the following action? I
don't know, does anybody know?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I mean, they talk about things in these broad and
sweeping terms, and I think it's very obvious because Kamala
has no substance.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
She doesn't know what she's talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
She doesn't know how anything in the economy actually economy
actually functions, and this is what happens.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
She's a mess.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And I do think that if you are in the
finance world that those questions are great. What is she
going to do that you specifically agree with? And I
don't even think it just has to be limited to
the finance world.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I think anyone out there, if you are asking them,
what do you think Kamala Harris has done well so
far such that she deserves a promotion and will do
well in the office of the presidency. I've never heard
anybody answer that. I mean, it's one thing to not
agree with Trump, but almost everybody is voting on the
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Democrat side against Trump. They aren't supporting Kamala and that's
important because she's in office right now, at least in
twenty twenty. Joe Biden could spin the web of I'm
going to restore normalcy to the country. I'm Scranton, Joe,
I'll solve all the issues that have arisen, in particular COVID.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's an argument.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Now, it wasn't realized, but he wasn't in office and
he was saying I'll do a better job. What argument
has Kamala actually made, suggesting she deserves a promotion. If
Kamala Harris's record existed in your place of employment, would
she deserve a job promotion taken away from the President
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of the United States? If she was the number two
person in sales at your car dealership and the guy
who ran the car dealership had gotten too old and
he was retiring, and sales had collapsed and the overall
success rate of the company was down, would people inside
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of the car dealership be like, hey, you know what
we need to do. Stick with the leadership that we
have right now. She would never get a promotion. Someone
trying to run a rational business that was failing, as
Kamala has failed as VP would never elevate her to
CEO or commanding position. And again, buck that what Joe
Kernin did there really just illustrates the only reason people
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are voting for Kamala is because, to a large extent,
people's brains have been broken by negative Trump stories and
they have bought into derangement syndrome. And the reason why
I'm cautiously optimistic five days out that Trump is going
to win is there are a lot of you out
there listening to us right now who might have bought
that argument in twenty sixteen. Who might even have bought
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that argument in twenty twenty, But your eyes have been
opened and you have come to see how illegitimate that
argument is. And I thought the clip we played a
CBS was a perfect distillation of this. And in fact,
in the third hour, maybe we'll dive into this. Did
you see Brian Stelter saying if Trump wins, basically the
mainstream media is dead. I'm paraphrasing the tweet he sent.
(25:34):
It important we should hit that. I did see that.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I was thinking about that for today's show as well,
because it is true. How do all these mainstream I
don't like that term, we still use it sometimes by habit,
these legacy Democrat outlets, Clay, how do they tell everybody
that it's the end of democracy and Trump is hitler
and then he wins and then everything's actually going along
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just fine. How would you listen to anybody who does that?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Ever? Get the entire Democrat media has gone along with that.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Yes, and again we'll read that exact tweet. But I
do think that he's right on that in some level.
And that's why I want to win the popular vote.
That's why I want all of you out there. I
don't just want Donald Trump to win the electoral College
by the skin of his teeth. I mean I would
sign up for that right now, because I think it's
important enough that he win. But in my ideal world,
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New Hampshire is too close to call. New Mexico, where
Trump is visiting, is too close to call. Virginia is
too close to call, Minnesota is too close to call.
We're expanding the battlefield to such an extent that Trump
has a real chance to win not only a huge
electoral college victory, but to win the actual popular vote.
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Because then all of these individuals out there are forced
to reconcile with the lies that they have told. Not
only that, but how I would all argue, not only
are they being increasingly put to the sideline, Buck, I
would even argue that most of what you're seeing now
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of the propaganda media is actually aiding Trump because there
are enough people paying attention now who are willing to
change their vote. And when they see Nora O'Donnell open
CBS News in the method in which she did, I mean,
this is supposed to be a non biased, impartial newscast. Buck,
That's why CBS has a broadcast license and they clearly
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are not doing that. They're just reading propaganda. It might
as well have been MSNBC that was employing Nora O'Donnell
as she ran through there.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, that's the fun. We come back, continue to break down.
It's Halloween.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I know a lot of you out there excited about
Halloween and buck Yesterday I went to a charity auction
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with twenty four a Sunday highlight reel from the week.
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some of these predictions that are out there about what
the numbers are going to look like again continuing to
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look really, really good, but the data will dive into
some of the data, and I'll give you a deep
dive of where we think we're headed.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I posted a poll and I'm curious. This is a
fun one. It's Halloween. I know we're in the middle
of serious times, but I was curious what your answer
to this would be, so, I am a fan of
nineteen eighties horror movies back in the day. Back in
the day, you could watch Nightmare on Elm Street, you
could watch Jason, you could watch Halloween, you could watch Chucky.
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These are nineteen eighties in particular. Yes, which was the
best nineteen eighties villain from the horror movie genre? If
I gave you Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Jason and Chucky
as the four options, which is a poll that I
put up, which would you say was the best?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I have only seen those movies. I think there were
like eight of them for each one of those genres made.
I'm not an expert at all on this, Unlike action movies,
where I'm a world class expert. I am like a PhD.
In eighties action films. Yes, I can do entire scripts
from those movies. If it has Van Damdolph Lunkern, Schwarzenegger,
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et c. I can do the whole thing. In my head,
I would say of the horror genre, Michael Myers from
Halloween I think is the most iconic, followed by Jason.
I was never a Freddy Krueger guy personally. I didn't
really get that one.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I would have gone Freddy Krueger number one. Overall, the
voters have gone with you and Michael Myers. Michael Myers
is getting forty three percent of the vote as the
best nineteen eighties horror movie villain out there.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
What is the scariest movie you've ever seen? Oh, that's
a great question. It is a great question. I would team.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
You can also weigh in New York while Clay's figuring
it out, so you can whisper it in my ear
via the mic here or via the headphones.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
What do you think the best one is? What do
you got for me? Clay? I would probably go with the.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Oh, man, I watched all of it, and I'm gonna
forget what they're called now, the uh the ones about
the Catholic priests who will investigate No, not the Exorcist
standing alone, that's really good, but there these are more
recent and they go out and they basically investigate all
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of these paranormal activities. It's a husband and a wife,
so I guess he's not a Catholic priest, but he
is a is a religious figure.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Not a very good one.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Yeah, well, but maybe there's an exception if you're doing
the uh doing those investations, and the title of these
movies is right off the edge of my tongue, and
I'm sure I'm getting blown up right now. But Annabelle
is the doll that is in them. And there's an
entire idea.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Does anyone know if I have no idea what Clay's
talking about with this series?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
What is the series he's talking about? The conjuring? The conjuring.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
The conjuring movies I think are the scariest because Buck
to me, like I understand the concept of hey, you're
like a crazy clown and you're walking like it was
a scary movie recently came out. Sure, that's spooky to me,
but the way scarier parts are where you have like
the devil possession, like someone engaging in some sort of
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behavior like that really gets me.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Our our friend Sean Ryan on his podcast long Form
was doing great, so many people listening.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Uh. He had on a guy who Catholic priest who
does exorcisms. Recently I saw that and.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Talked about his everyday Carrie, which included a piece of
the True Cross.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Very interesting stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I would say The Exorcist is still the scariest movie
that I've ever seen, although there's a director who's pretty
in vogue these days who did that, who did The Northman.
He also did a movie, The Witch. That was the
last horror movie that I have seen. I think it
was twenty eighteen maybe, and I'm like, I decided I'm done.
I actually, I actually won't sit through a horror movie
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now I won't. You know, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I'm out.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
My wife won't do horror movies. I love like the
scream movies. Those are really fun. I've watched them with
my boys. Those are really those are really more like
murder mystery movies. Those scream movies. They're not really horror.
It's not like monsters or you know, possessed people. It's
just like lunatics. Yeah, a lunatic killer. By the way,
the two guys to people, ed Edward Warren and his
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wife Lorraine Morgan, are the characters that are played and
in the Conjuring movies, and it's basically demonic possession, the
stories of them trying to go out and solve all
of these paranormal activity, demonic possessions. And so they started
in twenty thirteen. I was on a plane flight buck
I think it was like cross country or may have
(34:23):
been I was going to England or something. And it's
rare that I have just tons of time, and I
watched three straight conjuring movies on an airplane, which I
would think is probably one of the least threatening places
you could be because everybody's been screened. You know, like
there's no like the real danger by and large on
an airplane, as the plane could go down, but not
that crazy things are gonna happen on the airplane.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I did used to watch in the eighties. I think
they're they're horror, but in the horror thriller genre. Do
you remember a movie called Critters. Oh, there were guys
from space and they have like laser guns and the
little monsters that eat people like they used to make
these used to make these crazy movies. Read the little
spines they would shoot at people.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I can't believe.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
We used to watch this craft. It was on like
Channel eleven in New York City, and I would watch
these bizarre movies like that. And uh, I saw on
HBO The Hills Have Eyes. I do not recommend that.
That was traumatizing. I would never I would never watch
that again.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
You know what used to get me back when I
was a kid buck Unsolved Mysteries, When the Unsolved Mysteries
music came on, if you were a kid at home
by yourself, that was I think the creepiest show that
you could watch on like NBC or whatever. It was
regular television by far the scariest one out there, beyond
(35:37):
a shadow of a doubt. But I bet a lot
I can. My mentions have exploded A lot of you
are agreeing with me on the conjuring series of.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Movie Where are you on vampires and Dracula stuff? I
still up pull that four timelessness and entertainment value. Bram
Stoker's Dracula is actually one of I think it's one
of the greatest novels of all time, which I know
people flip out about, but I'm like, no, it's it's amazing.
It's incredibly well written in it created the whole vampire genre.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Yeah, and Francis Ford Coppola's version of Dracula is actually
incredibly well done.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That was Keanu Reeves, right, isn't it in that? Gary?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
That was uh, you're talking about the one with the
British guy, Gary Oldman.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Gary, Like the nineties, I thought Keanu Reeves was the
young guy who was like coming up to that, like play, Yeah,
that's that one is really well done.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I like.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
But I like my vampires, as my friend Mike Lee
rest in Peace used to say, not the MOPI vampires,
like the evil actually scary vampires, not like the romantic team,
you know, vampires which have taken over.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
This is also where I gotta say I got thrown
a word from a man. Wesley Snipes and Blade, which
I always talk about because underrated Fana
The second hour of play, and Buck kicks off right now.
I gotta tell you, Clay, I almost set of Trump
and Kamala kicks off her now, because.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
That's what's the top of mind. We're in the midst
of the absolute peak of.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
The election cycle, and I just ran up a flight
of stairs at light speed because I realized that we
were in a commercial break that was coming to an end.
So let me say this as I am catching my
breath here at Play. Some of the things that we
are seeing from the Kamala campaign you would absolutely expect,
(00:38):
which would be the phrases about how she's going to
help the middle class and all the stuff about how
she hates Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
One area where I think she has particular.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Weakness is on the economy, because I view it as such.
Kamala has been the vice president for four years. She
has been part of an administration that has been the
steward of the economy. Now, if we're gonna play the
game that they always do, which is it was Obama's
economy when it's good, It's Trump's economy when it's bad,
(01:14):
or you know whatever, they like to pretend that you
can't actually ascribe any economic good things or bad things
to any individual administration. That's nonsense that I think is
just an indicator of how much the Kamala Biden economy
(01:34):
has been an absolute mess. So when Bill Clinton is
up there in Muskegan, is that right?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
How do you do? I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, in Michiganian Miskegan Heights, Michigan. I just don't want
to offend the good people of Miskegan Heights by saying
it wrong Miskegan Heights, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Bill Clinton's like, well, yeah, I mean the economy was
better under Donald Trump, but this is eighteen play it.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I don't think it's right to say that people have
to vote for Donald Trump because the economy was better there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Not a good enough reason apparently to vote because the
economy was better. You know, they've they've put out all
of these different Democrats. They wish they didn't have to
have the current occupant of the White House, Joe Biden,
as somebody who is a surrogate for Kamala out there,
but they do clay on the economic issue. I saw
(02:30):
the Governor of New Jersey and I'll grab some of
this audio for everybody in a back and forth with
one of the guys on the squawk Box, the NBC
show Forget I forget his name, but Kernin, I think
his name is Kernin.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And he asked the governor of New Jersey. He goes, Hey,
what is the Kamala economic policy that you like?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Not?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Donald Trump? Is Hitler?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Not?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, this is our democracy. These are meetingless phrases.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, And just to be clear, as they're lecturing us
about fascism and autocracy, every autocracy, every fascist. There's a
reason they call it the People's Republic of China. There's
a reason why they call it the democratic People's Republic
of North Korea. Right, they try to take the language
of democracy, human rights, dignity, et cetera and use it
(03:24):
for the worst regimes possible. Using the words means absolutely nothing.
In fact, it's often a tell the people who are.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Like, we're all about democracy.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Every dictator says that they're about the people always. But
Clay when he tries to get some push or when
he tries to push the government of Jersey Phil Murphy,
who's a big Democrat, but it was also a Wall
Street guy. That's the whole point, Right, He's a former
Wall wasn't he a senior guy at Goldman Sachs. He's
trying to push him on what the best Kama policy is.
(03:53):
He can't think of one and every economic policy that
there's any discussion of from Kamala. Harris right, whether it's
taxing unrealized gains.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
What is what is fair taxation?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
This is she's gotten away with an entire campaign of
saying we're gonna, you know, make people pay their fair share,
which is an obamaism by the way, Obama used to
say that too means nothing, right, I mean this is
this is very much a time when I think people
could go back and read Orwell's Animal Farm and they
will understand the slogans. It's all, of course meant to be.
(04:27):
It's really a biting satire of the Soviets. But saying
things like pay your fair share, what is that? It
means nothing, It's it's whatever you say it is. And
I just think that people are recognizing the Kamala campaign
has no economic policy that they're willing.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
To say out loud.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I there are several stats about the way that we
focus on taxation now that drive me crazy. But one
of them, Buck is you know over half of Americans
don't pay a dollar in federal income tax. If you
are listening to us right now, and you pay one
dollar in federal income tax, you are in the top
(05:09):
half of tax payers in America. So when they run
around and try to say, oh, we've got to make
sure the rich pay their fair share, I believe the
top twenty percent pays eighty percent of all federal income tax.
That seems way more than a fair share to me.
And look, I've been in the camp where I didn't
make very much money and I didn't have to pay
(05:31):
very much in taxes, and now fortunately I make a
lot more money. But I don't feel like the money
that I'm giving to the federal government is in any
way by and large being spent well. I think that
I could spend it better to try to help America
to a large extent than the federal government could. And
(05:52):
this is why, big picture, our federal budget is broken.
And I love the idea of I would vote for
Trump just based on Hey, Elon Musk, go look at
the federal budget and figure out what we can just
try and cut. Because Elon says he thinks he could
(06:12):
find two trillion dollars in savings in our federal budget.
Wouldn't you like to have somebody as smart as Elon
Musk just going through the federal budget line by line.
He fired seventy five percent of the people at Twitter,
and the company works just as well as it did before.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I actually percentage of federal he's going to be fire. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I know a lot of people that are making real
money off of X now no longer Twitter. Yes, but
that was never the case before. Twitter was getting a
free ride off of everybody else. Now you're really a
partner with Twitter, and you also have free speech as
a result of it. I think Elon Musk going in
and with a chainsaw in the federal budget. You have
(06:54):
to do it, and it would be scary to some
people right the notion of how much he would cut
when you'd start look at what cutting a trillion or
two trillion dollars out of the federal budget would look like.
It's going to touch things that people don't want to
be touched. This is one of the problems we have.
You cannot win in American politics right now. If you
(07:15):
are serious about tackling the debt, and if you really
want to start to pay it down. You cannot win.
You will not win. Donald Bright very in favor of
all entitlements.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
That's the reality.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
What you need is effectively a shock therapy where Elon
Musk and his team, because he would build a team
to do this, comes in and they go, we are
going to unshackle the productivity and private economy of the
American people from this be a myth of federal spending
and then the prosperity and the explosion of real wealth,
(07:45):
not money printing, which is just meant to paper over
the fact that we're giving more to people than we
are producing in some sectors. The money printing is a
death sentence for our economy over the long term. Elon
comes in under a Trump administration dramatically cuts that budget,
they will freak out. They will say it at the end,
but they've already said that we're all hitler, So who
(08:06):
really cares? And Clay would be remarkable. I mean, you'd
see it would be a little bit like Calvin Coolidge
back in the day, right, Calvin Coolidge brought income tax
rates down enormously, actually cut spending, cut the budget, and
they were always all cats and dogs living together. Mass
hysteria then, of course not Roaring twenties, massive economic advancements
(08:28):
and a boom. I think that we could have a
tremendous amount of prosperity and a much better long term
financial security as a nation for all people if you
unleashed Elon in that regard. But remember, I think when
was Bastiat the law written. I think it's seventeenth century
(08:49):
and Clay he was writing on the fiction of the
state as everyone thinking they can live at the expense
of everyone else, right, And it's true, it's true, true,
that's what the Democrats offer. They offer the fiction that
you can be effectively. Oh no, sorry, eighteen fifty. I
think seven hundred, eighteen hundreds, eighteen fifty. But that's what
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they offer, that everyone else will pay for all of
your stuff. I yes, And this is this is a
long range conversation. Five days we get an important election,
and the argument for Trump on the economy has already
been made, because we had the best economy in the
history of the United States when he was in for
(09:34):
his first term, and that's why there is a nostalgic
desire for that to return. And all of their attacks
on Trump are predicated on COVID happening and largely blue
state and blue cities shutting down and forcing everybody to
go home and not work. February twenty twenty are the
greatest economic numbers that have ever existed.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Do you miss two and a half percent mortgages? Do
you miss inflation at one and a half percent two percent?
Do you miss your wages significantly outpacing the grate of inflation?
That is real money in your pocket for white, Black,
Asian and Hispanic individuals. If you miss all of that,
I believe Trump can return it if he's given the opportunity.
(10:18):
But what Buck's saying is so important. Whatever happens the
next four years, we have major structural issues that have
to be addressed over the next generation, over the next
two generations. If you're around our age, Buck, let's say
you're forty and you hope to live into your eighties,
I have zero faith that Social Security as it exists
now is going to be my safety net when I'm
(10:40):
eighty years old living in the United States. Zero Because
the math just does a math, and at some point
that becomes a big, huge, massive obstacle towards economic growth
that we have to reckon with. But in the short term,
Trump is the right economic answer. But make mistake, no
matter who the president is, the challenges are still going
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to exist in the future, and candidates by and large
only want to focus on the present. They don't really
want to focus on the long long range. But the
way to solve this, I thought Art Leffert Laffer, who
was on with us, recently said, look, the growth rate
of the economy is the key. That's really how you
put America in a different stratosphere. We have to get
(11:25):
up to four percent growth. We have to get up
to four percent plus growth, because then the amount of
money being brought in on all fronts. Rising tide lifts
all boats. It's not a complicated economic picture.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And there's also the the energy. People can ask, well,
what would what would Trump do? What's different? There's the
cutting of spending, the elimination of regulation enclage. When you see,
you know you run a business, and you know we're
running a business together. Now you see the stuff you
have to deal with that is really just all non
(11:58):
productive rent seeking, the regulatory and government economy. Whatever business
you are in, whatever you're dealing with. If you're running
an autobody shop, if you're you know, if you're a
general contractor if you're you know, whatever it is, there
are all of these unnecessary and onerous costs put on
(12:20):
you because unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, particularly at the federal but
often at the state level as well, decide that it's fair,
or it's sustainable, or it's equity.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You start to.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Pull all those shackles off the American people in the
American government just by approaching it with a common sense
attitude of isn't even the thing, We don't have to
worry about this, Why are you doing this? It would
be a dramatic It would be a sea change, I
think for the American economy. And this is what gets
me excited about the prospect of Trump two point zero
is to really just chang saw to the to the
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not just the deep state, but the bureaucrat state. We
need to unleash individual excellence in this country, and I
think Trump would do a better job of it by
far than Kamala. And if you've ever founded a small business,
if you've ever had to make payroll, if you have
ever had other people's ability to take care of their
families on your shoulders, then you know better than anybody
(13:21):
out there, by and large on the Democrat side, how
to grow business and how to take responsibility for individual
success in this country. And Trump is going to do
a better job of that by far. Economics is not
even close if you have a functional brain in terms
of who's going to grow the country bigger, better and faster.
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out with us as we are rolling through the Thursday edition,
Halloween edition of the program.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Do you get a lot of trick or treaders at
your place in Miami or buy and large?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Is it like not a trick or treat universe? Uh?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
No, we did this so like you and carry will
not have any candy ready for anybody knocking on your
door at all. Nope, so I will be I'm not
even kidding about this in the probably ninety ninth percentile
of people who have their door knocked on for Halloween.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Now, I will be running around with my ten year old.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
But the amount of candy that we will give out,
and also Laura has bought my wife. I think I've
talked about this on the show before. We have a
while back, Fireball sent me a fireball shot machine, So
I have in my house a fireball shot machine. We
(16:10):
set it up every Halloween. I think my wife has
forty bottles of fireball. And for the adults, for the
adults who are coming around on Halloween when their kids
get candy, we offer them shots of fireball whiskey. And
we will go through for adults walking around their kids
(16:31):
about forty bottles of fireball tonight. So if you're in
the Franklin, Tennessee area, you may well come by in
our neighborhood. Not only do kids get a lot of candy,
but there are certain houses where adults can get alcohol.
It's a big party. I cannot wait. So I bet
(16:53):
there will be a bunch of in my neighborhood. In
particular Buck Trump in garbage man gear and Trump in
uh Trump in the McDonald's gear. I'm expecting very much
more acclimated to the I mean, I know you do
the adult Halloween thing too, but you have kids, so
they're you know what I'm saying, like, you're in the zone.
I mean as much as I if we tried to
(17:14):
dress Ginger up like a little pirate, she would yep
it off and chew it up, you know what I mean.
She's not into that. So I'm not in that zone yet. Well,
one of the fun times when you get young kids
is when you can start dressing them up for Halloween
for the first time. Now about two or three, they
can start to pick what they would like to be.
But those first couple of years, did you see Biden
(17:35):
biting the kid who was dressed up like a turkey
at the White House Halloween party?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You saw this, right, Yeah, I mean this is crazy. Now.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I think he's trying to be funny, but he's so
weird that I saw this video and I was like,
what in the world is our president doing that. We've
got a guy biting little kids like their drumsticks in
the White House right now.
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Tisx dot com. Welcome back into and Buck. All right,
I had mentioned this before. I've done some deep diving
into the official Kamala economic policy side of things, and uh,
it is just a lot of jargon. There is no
there there. I'm not the only one who has figured
(19:18):
this out either over at CNBC. Uh, you have Phil Kernan.
I think it's Phil Kernan, right, Phil Murphy, Joe Kernel,
thank you, yeah, Joe Kernan, Phil Murphy.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
There we go. You got Kernin and Murphy.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And I thought this Simpson, because it's not just okay,
he's a Democrat governor of a big state, New Jersey,
which he is. Murphy horrible on COVID by the way,
just throwing that out there. I remember because I was
living in New York at the time and in New Jersey.
I was seeing the press conferences too, and I was like,
you got to be kidding me, you know, the just
horrible stuff, idiot stuff. But anyway, Murphy was a he's
(19:53):
a Wall Street guy, he's a rich guy, and so
he should understand how an economy works. I want you
to hear when Kernan is asking him straight up, just
explain to me the thing you like that, Kamala says, not,
that's like a concept, right, Like Clay, I'm going to
make everyone rich is a concept. I'm going to make
everyone rich. You can say that that sounds good, but
(20:13):
it leaves open how what are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Right? I mean, Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
If you were a coaching a football team and you
went in before the game, you said, guys, we're going
to win this game, and that was all you said.
People might have some questions like, hey, coach, how are
we going to win this game? And that is at
its essence what is missing with kamala Ism, if you will,
there is no explanation.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
There's only these airy phrases.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
There's only you know it's And this is what happens
when when somebody who works in the world of financial
journalism asks somebody who understands finance, Hey, what do you
like about kamala Play the clip.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Please, Governor if we went on a checklist, you like
all the things that that you like Kamala Harrison not
just against that.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
So what are Let me ask.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
You, do you believe we should abolished a filibuster and
you can answer after I do it. How about getting
rid of private insurance? How about taxing unrealized gains? How
about nationalizing energy? How about mandatory gun buybacks like Australia.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
How about decriminalizing illegal.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Crossings, ending cash bail, h child gender reassignment surgery being
paid for in prison? I mean, what are your raising
the corporate tax rate. What are your favorite proposals from
Kamala Harris that make you like her so much?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Which is those for a Jersey guy?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
For a Jersey guy, you sound like you're on the
Trump campaign for credit out loud?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Okay, well, which of which of those do you like?
Which of those do you like?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I to tell you, He had no answer. We continue
that club, which maybe should play a little bit more
of it. There's first of all, he goes out domin mklay,
which is always a big tip off. Right, Oh, I
always trying to be kind of funny. He's like, you're
a Jersey guy, you should know better.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
No, this is the real, honest. What is the thing
that Kamala Harris has said she will do, not a feeling,
she will evoke. The thing she will do that will
accomplish anything? You know? What is the lever that will
be pulled that will result in the following action? I
don't know, does anybody know?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I mean, they talk about things in these broad and
sweeping terms, and I think it's very obvious because Kamala
has no substance.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
She doesn't know what she's talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
She doesn't know how anything in the economy actually economy
actually functions, and this is what happens.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
She's a mess.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And I do think that if you are in the
finance world that those questions are great. What is she
going to do that you specifically agree with? And I
don't even think it just has to be limited to
the finance world.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I think anyone out there, if you are asking them,
what do you think Kamala Harris has done well so
far such that she deserves a promotion and will do
well in the office of the presidency. I've never heard
anybody answer that. I mean, it's one thing to not
agree with Trump, but almost everybody is voting on the
(23:22):
Democrat side against Trump. They aren't supporting Kamala and that's
important because she's in office right now, at least in
twenty twenty. Joe Biden could spin the web of I'm
going to restore normalcy to the country. I'm Scranton, Joe,
I'll solve all the issues that have arisen, in particular COVID.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's an argument.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Now, it wasn't realized, but he wasn't in office and
he was saying I'll do a better job. What argument
has Kamala actually made, suggesting she deserves a promotion. If
Kamala Harris's record existed in your place of employment, would
she deserve a job promotion taken away from the President
(24:07):
of the United States? If she was the number two
person in sales at your car dealership and the guy
who ran the car dealership had gotten too old and
he was retiring, and sales had collapsed and the overall
success rate of the company was down, would people inside
(24:30):
of the car dealership be like, hey, you know what
we need to do. Stick with the leadership that we
have right now. She would never get a promotion. Someone
trying to run a rational business that was failing, as
Kamala has failed as VP would never elevate her to
CEO or commanding position. And again, buck that what Joe
Kernin did there really just illustrates the only reason people
(24:50):
are voting for Kamala is because, to a large extent,
people's brains have been broken by negative Trump stories and
they have bought into derangement syndrome. And the reason why
I'm cautiously optimistic five days out that Trump is going
to win is there are a lot of you out
there listening to us right now who might have bought
that argument in twenty sixteen. Who might even have bought
(25:11):
that argument in twenty twenty, But your eyes have been
opened and you have come to see how illegitimate that
argument is. And I thought the clip we played a
CBS was a perfect distillation of this. And in fact,
in the third hour, maybe we'll dive into this. Did
you see Brian Stelter saying if Trump wins, basically the
mainstream media is dead. I'm paraphrasing the tweet he sent.
(25:34):
It important we should hit that. I did see that.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I was thinking about that for today's show as well,
because it is true. How do all these mainstream I
don't like that term, we still use it sometimes by habit,
these legacy Democrat outlets, Clay, how do they tell everybody
that it's the end of democracy and Trump is hitler
and then he wins and then everything's actually going along
(25:57):
just fine. How would you listen to anybody who does that?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Ever? Get the entire Democrat media has gone along with that.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Yes, and again we'll read that exact tweet. But I
do think that he's right on that in some level.
And that's why I want to win the popular vote.
That's why I want all of you out there. I
don't just want Donald Trump to win the electoral College
by the skin of his teeth. I mean I would
sign up for that right now, because I think it's
important enough that he win. But in my ideal world,
(26:27):
New Hampshire is too close to call. New Mexico, where
Trump is visiting, is too close to call. Virginia is
too close to call, Minnesota is too close to call.
We're expanding the battlefield to such an extent that Trump
has a real chance to win not only a huge
electoral college victory, but to win the actual popular vote.
(26:49):
Because then all of these individuals out there are forced
to reconcile with the lies that they have told. Not
only that, but how I would all argue, not only
are they being increasingly put to the sideline, Buck, I
would even argue that most of what you're seeing now
(27:10):
of the propaganda media is actually aiding Trump because there
are enough people paying attention now who are willing to
change their vote. And when they see Nora O'Donnell open
CBS News in the method in which she did, I mean,
this is supposed to be a non biased, impartial newscast. Buck,
That's why CBS has a broadcast license and they clearly
(27:32):
are not doing that. They're just reading propaganda. It might
as well have been MSNBC that was employing Nora O'Donnell
as she ran through there.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, that's the fun. We come back, continue to break down.
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some of these predictions that are out there about what
the numbers are going to look like again continuing to
(29:29):
look really, really good, but the data will dive into
some of the data, and I'll give you a deep
dive of where we think we're headed.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I posted a poll and I'm curious. This is a
fun one. It's Halloween. I know we're in the middle
of serious times, but I was curious what your answer
to this would be, so, I am a fan of
nineteen eighties horror movies back in the day. Back in
the day, you could watch Nightmare on Elm Street, you
could watch Jason, you could watch Halloween, you could watch Chucky.
(30:02):
These are nineteen eighties in particular. Yes, which was the
best nineteen eighties villain from the horror movie genre? If
I gave you Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Jason and Chucky
as the four options, which is a poll that I
put up, which would you say was the best?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I have only seen those movies. I think there were
like eight of them for each one of those genres made.
I'm not an expert at all on this, Unlike action movies,
where I'm a world class expert. I am like a PhD.
In eighties action films. Yes, I can do entire scripts
from those movies. If it has Van Damdolph Lunkern, Schwarzenegger,
(30:44):
et c. I can do the whole thing. In my head,
I would say of the horror genre, Michael Myers from
Halloween I think is the most iconic, followed by Jason.
I was never a Freddy Krueger guy personally. I didn't
really get that one.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I would have gone Freddy Krueger number one. Overall, the
voters have gone with you and Michael Myers. Michael Myers
is getting forty three percent of the vote as the
best nineteen eighties horror movie villain out there.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
What is the scariest movie you've ever seen? Oh, that's
a great question. It is a great question. I would team.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
You can also weigh in New York while Clay's figuring
it out, so you can whisper it in my ear
via the mic here or via the headphones.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
What do you think the best one is? What do
you got for me? Clay? I would probably go with the.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Oh, man, I watched all of it, and I'm gonna
forget what they're called now, the uh the ones about
the Catholic priests who will investigate No, not the Exorcist
standing alone, that's really good, but there these are more
recent and they go out and they basically investigate all
(31:54):
of these paranormal activities. It's a husband and a wife,
so I guess he's not a Catholic priest, but he
is a is a religious figure.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Not a very good one.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Yeah, well, but maybe there's an exception if you're doing
the uh doing those investations, and the title of these
movies is right off the edge of my tongue, and
I'm sure I'm getting blown up right now. But Annabelle
is the doll that is in them. And there's an
entire idea.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Does anyone know if I have no idea what Clay's
talking about with this series?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
What is the series he's talking about? The conjuring? The conjuring.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
The conjuring movies I think are the scariest because Buck
to me, like I understand the concept of hey, you're
like a crazy clown and you're walking like it was
a scary movie recently came out. Sure, that's spooky to me,
but the way scarier parts are where you have like
the devil possession, like someone engaging in some sort of
(32:53):
behavior like that really gets me.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Our our friend Sean Ryan on his podcast long Form
was doing great, so many people listening.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Uh. He had on a guy who Catholic priest who
does exorcisms. Recently I saw that and.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Talked about his everyday Carrie, which included a piece of
the True Cross.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Very interesting stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I would say The Exorcist is still the scariest movie
that I've ever seen, although there's a director who's pretty
in vogue these days who did that, who did The Northman.
He also did a movie, The Witch. That was the
last horror movie that I have seen. I think it
was twenty eighteen maybe, and I'm like, I decided I'm done.
I actually, I actually won't sit through a horror movie
(33:36):
now I won't. You know, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I'm out.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
My wife won't do horror movies. I love like the
scream movies. Those are really fun. I've watched them with
my boys. Those are really those are really more like
murder mystery movies. Those scream movies. They're not really horror.
It's not like monsters or you know, possessed people. It's
just like lunatics. Yeah, a lunatic killer. By the way,
the two guys to people, ed Edward Warren and his
(34:02):
wife Lorraine Morgan, are the characters that are played and
in the Conjuring movies, and it's basically demonic possession, the
stories of them trying to go out and solve all
of these paranormal activity, demonic possessions. And so they started
in twenty thirteen. I was on a plane flight buck
I think it was like cross country or may have
(34:23):
been I was going to England or something. And it's
rare that I have just tons of time, and I
watched three straight conjuring movies on an airplane, which I
would think is probably one of the least threatening places
you could be because everybody's been screened. You know, like
there's no like the real danger by and large on
an airplane, as the plane could go down, but not
that crazy things are gonna happen on the airplane.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I did used to watch in the eighties. I think
they're they're horror, but in the horror thriller genre. Do
you remember a movie called Critters. Oh, there were guys
from space and they have like laser guns and the
little monsters that eat people like they used to make
these used to make these crazy movies. Read the little
spines they would shoot at people.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I can't believe.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
We used to watch this craft. It was on like
Channel eleven in New York City, and I would watch
these bizarre movies like that. And uh, I saw on
HBO The Hills Have Eyes. I do not recommend that.
That was traumatizing. I would never I would never watch
that again.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
You know what used to get me back when I
was a kid buck Unsolved Mysteries, When the Unsolved Mysteries
music came on, if you were a kid at home
by yourself, that was I think the creepiest show that
you could watch on like NBC or whatever. It was
regular television by far the scariest one out there, beyond
(35:37):
a shadow of a doubt. But I bet a lot
I can. My mentions have exploded A lot of you
are agreeing with me on the conjuring series of.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Movie Where are you on vampires and Dracula stuff? I
still up pull that four timelessness and entertainment value. Bram
Stoker's Dracula is actually one of I think it's one
of the greatest novels of all time, which I know
people flip out about, but I'm like, no, it's it's amazing.
It's incredibly well written in it created the whole vampire genre.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Yeah, and Francis Ford Coppola's version of Dracula is actually
incredibly well done.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That was Keanu Reeves, right, isn't it in that? Gary?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
That was uh, you're talking about the one with the
British guy, Gary Oldman.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Gary, Like the nineties, I thought Keanu Reeves was the
young guy who was like coming up to that, like play, Yeah,
that's that one is really well done.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I like.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
But I like my vampires, as my friend Mike Lee
rest in Peace used to say, not the MOPI vampires,
like the evil actually scary vampires, not like the romantic team,
you know, vampires which have taken over.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
This is also where I gotta say I got thrown
a word from a man. Wesley Snipes and Blade, which
I always talk about because underrated Fana
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