October 31, 2024 • 49 mins
Trump’s joyful campaign. The truth about taxes. Democrats lack details. Happy Halloween!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Halloween and happy five days until election Day. We
are going to have some fun with you on a
variety of different topics out there. Hope all of you
are having fantastic starts to your Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hope that with your.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Kids or your grandkids, you're going to have some fun
trig or treating in the midst of all the election insanity.
I will be out and about with my ten year
old and it's gonna be a lot of fun. Not
gonna lie. I enjoy going trick or treating with my kids,
and I don't know how many more years of trigger
treating I've got, so I'm going to take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I hope all of you will as well.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And boy, I just Trump is running buck I think
the most fun presidential campaign that I can remember in
modern memory. And what's staggering about it is he's doing
it just a few months after a bullet came within
a quarter of an inch of blowing his head off.
(01:03):
The amount of joy, the amount of resiliency, the amount
of sheer fun that he is packing into the last
couple of weeks of this campaign is really pretty extraordinary.
And we're gonna play a couple of cuts from you. Yesterday,
Donald Trump was with Brett Varvre and our friend Eric
(01:23):
Hovdy up in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and he showed up,
came off of the airplane dressed as a garbage man.
After Donald Trump, sorry, after Joe Biden referred to Trump
supporters as garbage and proceeded to climb into a garbage
truck and conduct a press conference inside of the garbage truck.
(01:46):
He then went to the rally and did the entire
rally wearing a garbage man jacket and buck. It is
completely taken over the news media cycle. Even the left
wing media that wanted to pretend Joe Biden didn't call
Trump supporters garbage has been forced to cover Trump mocking
(02:09):
that assertion by Biden, and it has taken over now
a couple of days of the news cycle. Whatever Kamala
Harris said on Tuesday in her big Ellipse speech is
totally vanished from the news cycle. And I'm sure with
your behind the scenes coverage of the MSNBC crazy people,
you are beginning to detect that they are being driven
(02:32):
a bit bonkers as Trump continues to command the news cycle,
and they're slowly a realization setting in that he is
likely to win on Tuesday, as the early voting numbers
continue to be in Republican favor. We've got to sprint
through the finish line. All of you have to get
out and vote. But Trump is commanding the stage. Whether
(02:53):
it was working as a fry cook at McDonald's, whether
it was taking over Madison Square Garden and now driving
around in a garbage truck in a garbage outfit, he
has completely commandeered all news coverage and frankly, a joyful
and genius combination, the likes of which I don't think
we've ever seen. Can you remember a presidential candidate who
(03:15):
appeared to be having more fun down the stretch run
than right now Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I cannot. It's really amazing to see. I thought it
was so much fun. Also, because the more fun Trump has,
the more he ends up trolling people who are miserable
and hate him. Right, So it's this double effect of
when Trump is doing things that show the people who
(03:42):
support him that he actually doesn't take himself too seriously.
He's having a good time. He wants to you know,
it's funny. Kama talks about joy I see nothing joyful
about her campaign ever. In fact, it always feels a
little bit like you're some kind of like a waiting
room of a medical office or something. You see these
Kamala rallies, everyone's kind of just like, yeah, this is great.
(04:04):
Like I don't think they think it's great. They have
so tried so hard to convince everyone through saying that
Trump is a fascist and that this will be the
end of democracy. I think that they've recognized at this point, Clay,
if you are capable of taking in information and making
a judgment about it, meaning you have not been a
(04:25):
brainwashed I mean, you have not been subject to effectively
a sustained campaign of propaganda and mind control. If you
are able to make judgments about information as it comes
to you. When they say Trump is a fascist, you say,
that's just silly. It's just silly. I mean, it's a lie,
but it's also absurd. And I think that there's a
(04:47):
bit of a creeping hysteria now at the notion that
this may not go Kamala's way. And it's funny because
at some level, the emotional stakes, the stakes for the country,
I think, Clay, are very high, and we can get
into that the emotiontional stakes, though we'll be fine. You
and I will be fine if Trump doesn't win this thing. Uh,
we're not gonna cry, We're not gonna We're not gonna
(05:08):
say that it's time for despair. And you know, we'll
come here, we'll figure it out. Maybe we have the setate,
maybe of the house. You know, we get we gear up.
Jd Vance is phenomenal. You've got a whole bunch of
other people the top of the GOP who are gonna
beat MAGA for the next generation. So we'll be fine.
I still think Trump's gonna win, to be clear, and
I think the Democrats realize that too. But my point
(05:30):
is merely we go into this thinking, all right, I
hope America makes the right choice. Clay, the other side
is ready for total emotional sure, noobyl Yeah, they cannot hand.
And they've convinced themselves of this. They've created this world
in which if Donald Trump wins, everything falls apart. Now,
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some of them, like the some of the MSNBC hosts
and the commentators, they don't really believe it, right, It's
just this is a way to manipulate and entice the audience.
Catastrophism is always interesting to people, especially those or emotionally unstable.
But Trump's having a great time. We should play Let's
play some of the excerpts from the speech, because they're.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I've got I've got here. Cut fourteen. This is Trump
telling the story of how the garbage truck and the
orange vest came to be at his Green Bay, Wisconsin
rally yesterday.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Listen to cut fourteen.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So this outfit, you know, is uh when they when
he called us all garbage, how stupid?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
What a stupid word? That blows deplorable away, don't you think?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Of course I thought irredeemable when she said deplorable or irredeemable,
I thought irredeemable was actually worse, but deplorable seemed.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
To catch up.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But this garbage stuff blows, blows it away.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So I'm in this beautiful plane, I'm enjoying myself, have
a wonderful suit on. And one of my people came
in and said, sure, you know, the word garbage is
the hottest thing right now out there, the honest thing
(07:09):
out there, shir would you like to drive a garbage truck?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And we've got more buck.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
There's about five minutes there of Trump talking about wearing
the garbage outfit and we've got that now where he
says that he was like, oh, there's no way. So
he talks all about and a part of me thinks,
in fact, guys, can you just pull I shared? I
think a five minute clip maybe in the third hour.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We almost never do this to play a clip that long.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think it's so incredibly funny and illustrative of what
Trump is actually like that if you guys didn't hear it,
I think you may love it in the third hour,
So put a pin in this. We don't usually play
things for that long. Sometimes we go to live events
and play it. But I think we may even be
needing to play that whole five minutes for you because
it was so good. But there's a snippet of it.
(08:08):
Here's another part of it, buck where he says he
wasn't planning on wearing the outfit, but they told him
that it made him look slimmer. And this is really
funny again, Listen.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I got in the car and I'm driving over here,
and I have this still long and I come into
the arena and I said, where's my jacket? I want
to get out of this stake, And they said it
would be unbelievable if you could wear it on stage, I.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Said, And I said, no way.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I got twenty five thousand people standing outside.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I got all these people here.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
There's no way I'm wearing it on stage. They said,
oh okay, I said, get me my jacket. But if
you did, you know it actually makes you look thinner,
I said, and they got me. I said, I want
to wear.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
It on stage. When they said I look thinner, I said,
in that case, I'll wear Say.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Buck calling this guy Hitler, you can disagree with anybody politically.
The thing that you and I really have never been
able to get over, and I think it's registering more
and more with a lot of other people. He's a
really likable, joyful guy. He's not dour, he's not trying
to kill me. But like, the idea that he's Hitler
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is so laughably absurd. The fact that it works for
anyone to me is a function of how broken their
brains are. That's the only way to even defend it.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
One of the frustrations that we all have to just
be prepared for is that whoever the next Republican is
on deck, they're also going to say is a fascist.
Just it doesn't really matter. They just are engaged in
a campaign of emotional manipulation. And unfortunately, the Democrat Party
I think is defined more by hysteria than anything else. Now,
(10:15):
if you don't go along with it, you are not
to be trusted. Clay, you all know what I was
watching this morning, four hundred historians four hundred and I
want to say, I said the like, what does that
even mean? Well, you get a bunch of like third
tier college history professors who've written one book to be Look,
I don't like Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm supposed to be so angry as a history guy, Buck,
I love history. I like reading history books. I thought
about getting a PhD in history. I could have been
one of those, you know, college professors who are teaching history.
They're all their brains are broken, and if anything, they
should have more of an understanding of not being emotionally
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overridden written by the moment, because history teaches us to
be humble and intelligent about the flow of history. And
so when I hear all these historians going on morning Joe,
I mean, tell us what it was like.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I mean, they really are. First of all, they had
a whole I probably need to stop guys like do
I maybe just after the election, I had to stop
watching Morning Joe because it is like an It's like
an entry into a parallel universe that I don't none
of you are dealing with. None of you have to
go through this portal into madness. But I sit there.
(11:31):
I drink my Crockett coffee, so at least it feels
like I have a safety blanket that I'm drinking. If
you will, I sit there, like Crocket coffee. I watch
Morning Joe and they're just living on another planet. I think.
I try to understand what it is that they're saying
and come to their perspective, or how do they come
to their perspective? Clay. They were talking this morning about
(11:52):
how Donald Trump, just like Joe Biden, has cognitive decline. Yeah,
there was a segment about this. I'm like, Donald Trump
is doing stand up comedy on the fly and two
hour long rallies. You know, I don't even know, and
they're talking about cognitive decline. They there is no there's
no connection to reality for these people. And Kamala the
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things they say, abou Kamala Harris. You know what the
primary message is that she's gonna be a uniter and
a moderate. There is nothing. Nothing in Kamala Harris's whatever
I would is she like fifty nine or something, or
like roughly sixty sixty, oh sixty, okay, rough her sixty
years of life. There is nothing to indicate Kamala Harris
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is a moderate, is a uniter, is competent, is a
particularly hard worker, is particularly efficient, gets things done, whether
it's as a legislator or as a prosecutor. And they're
just talking about how great she's gonna be. And they
had these four hundred historians who are saying the future
(12:56):
I am not exaggerating the future of the country. Clay
hangs the balance. If Donald Trump gets a second term,
how do you even discuss this with people? How do
you even approach this?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
There's so much fun. He let's have fun. But I
do think Trump actually directly addressed the cognitive attax buck
by saying he was so nervous climbing into the garbage
truck because if you look at how much he had
to lift himself, I mean, that's not an easy thing
to do for a young man. If you look at
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how high the step up. He brilliantly attacks what they
would have said if he weren't able to pull himself
all the way up in there.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I think we need to play it in the third hour.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I think we need to kick back, let people hear
about what I think is five minutes of the best
most entertaining rally material just from a pure fun perspective
that maybe has ever existed in my life in a
presidential campaign. When we come back in the third hour,
we'll play that for you. In the meantime, dive into
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the data. We got a lot to share with you here.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Have some fun.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
By the way, it's also Halloween, and there's some good
fun topics we can have as well.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We'll take some of your calls.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm in a festive mood, buck because I am very
optimistic as we sit here five days out, and I
love Halloween. It's a pretty fabulous day.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
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is ready to throw bags full of trash into the
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Speaker 2 (16:14):
I gotta tell you, Clay, I almost set of Trump
and Kamala kicks off, because that's what's the top of mind.
We're in the midst of the absolute peak of the
election cycle, and I just ran up a flight of
stairs at light speed because I realized that we were
in a commercial break that was coming to an end.
So let me say this as I am catching my
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breath here at Clay. Some of the things that we
are seeing from the Kamala campaign you would absolutely expect,
which would be the phrases about how she's going to
help the middle class and all the stuff about how
she hates Donald Trump. One area where I think she
has particular weakness is on the economy, because I view
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it as such Kamala has been the vice president for
four years. She has been part of an administration that
has been the steward of the economy. Now, if we're
gonna play the game that they always do, which is
it was Obama's economy when it's good, It's Trump's economy
when it's bad, or you know whatever. They like to
pretend that you can't actually ascribe any economic good things
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or bad things to any individual administration. That's nonsense that
I think is just an indicator of how much the
Kamala Biden economy has been an absolute mess. So when
Bill Clinton is up there in Muskegan, is that right?
(17:51):
How do you do Michigan, Mician, Miskegan Heights, Michigan. I
just don't want to offend the good people of Miskegan
Heights by saying it wrong. Miskegan, it's Michigan. Bill Clinton's like, well, yeah,
I mean the economy was better under Donald Trump. But
this is eighteen play it.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
I don't think it's right to say that people have
to vote for Donald Trump because the economy was better there.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I don't believe that not a good enough reason apparently,
to vote because the economy was better. You know, they've
they've put out all of these different Democrats. They wish
they didn't have to have the current occupant of the
White House, Joe Biden, as somebody who is a surrogate
for Kamala out there. But they do play on the
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economic issue. I saw the governor of New Jersey and
I'll grab some of this audio for everybody, in a
back and forth with one of the guys on the
squawk Box, the NBC show. I forget his name, but Kernin,
I think his name is Kernin, and he asked the
governor of New Jersey. He goes, hey, what is the
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Kamala economic policy that you like?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Not?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Donald Trump? Is Hitler? Not? You know, this is our democracy.
These are meaningless phrases, Okay, And just to be clear,
as they're lecturing us about fascism and autocracy, every autocracy,
every fascist. There's a reason they call it the People's
Republic of China. There's a reason why they call it
the democratic People's Republic of North Korea. Right. They try
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to take the language of democracy, human rights, dignity, etc.
And use it for the worst regimes possible. Using the
words means absolutely nothing. In fact, it's often a tell
the people who are like, we're all about democracy. Every
dictator says that they're about the people always, but Clay
when he tries to get some push or when he
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tries to push the government of Jersey Phil Murphy, who's
a big Democrat, but it was also a Wall Street guy.
That's the whole point, right, he's a former water Wasn't
he a senior guy like Goldman Sachs. He's trying to
push him on what the best Kamala policy is. He
can't think of one and every economic policy that there's
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any discussion of from Kamala Harris right, whether it's taxing
unrealized gains, what is what is fair taxation? This is
she's gotten away with an entire campaign of saying we're gonna,
you know, make people pay their fair share, which is
an obamaism. By the way, Obama used to say that
too means nothing, right. I mean this is this is
very much a time when I think people could go
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back and read Orwell's Animal Farm and they will understand
the slogans. It's all of course meant to be. It's
really a biting satire of the Soviets. But saying things
like pay your fair share? What is that it means nothing.
It's it's whatever you say it is. And I just
think that people are recognizing the Kamala campaign has no
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economic policy that they're willing to say out loud.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I there are several stats about the way that we
focus on taxation now that drive me crazy. But one
of them, Buck is, you know, over half of Americans
don't pay a dollar in federal income tax. If you
are listening to us right now and you pay one
dollar in federal income tax, you are in the top
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half of tax payers in America. So when they run
around and try to say, oh, we've got to make
sure the rich pay their fair share, I believe the
top twenty percent pays eighty percent of all federal income tax.
That seems way more than a fair share to me.
And look, I've been in the camp where I didn't
make very much money and I didn't have to pay
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very much in taxes, and now fortunately I make a
lot more money. But I don't feel like the money
that I'm giving to the federal government is in any
way by and large being spent well. I think that
I could spend it better to try to help America
to a large extent, than the federal government could. And
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this is why, big picture, our federal budget is broken.
And I love the idea, buck of I would vote
for Trump just based on Hey, Elon Musk, go look
at the federal budget and figure out what we can
just try and cut, because Elon says he thinks he
could find two trillion dollars in savings in our federal budget.
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Wouldn't you like to have somebody as smart as Elon
Musk just going through the federal budget line by line.
He fired seventy five percent of the people at Twitter,
and the company works just as well as it did before.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Actually he's going to we fire. Yeah. I know a
lot of people that are making real money off of
x now no longer Twitter. Yes, but that was never
the case before Twitter was getting a free ride off
of everybody else. Now you're really a partner with Twitter,
and you also have free speech as a result of it.
I think Elon Musk going in and with a chainsaw
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in the federal budget. You have to do it, and
it would be scary to some people, right, the notion
of how much he would cut. When you'd start to
look at what cutting a trillion or two trillion dollars
out of the federal budget would look like it's going
to touch things that people don't want to be touched.
This is one of the problems we have. You cannot
win in American politics right now. If you are serious
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about tackling the debt, and if you really want to
start to pay it down, you cannot win. You will
not win Donald Bright very in favor of all entitlements.
That's a reality. What you need is effectively a shock
therapy where Elon Musk and his team, because he would
build a team to do this, comes in and they go,
we are going to unshackle the productivity and private economy
of the American people from this be a myth of
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federal spending and then the prosperity and the explosion of
real wealth, not money printing, which is just meant to
paper over the fact that we're giving more to people
than we are producing in some sectors. The money printing
is a death sentence for our economy over the long term.
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Elon comes in under Trump administration dramatically cuts that budget,
they will freak out. They will say it at the end,
but they've already said that we're all hitler. So who
really Cares and Clay, it would be remarkable. I mean,
you'd see it would be a little bit like Calvin
Coolidge back in the day, right, Calvin Coolidge brought income
tax rates down enormously, actually cut spending, cut the budget,
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and they were always all cats and dogs living together,
mass hysteria. Then of course not Roaring twenties, massive economic
advancements and a boom. I think that we could have
a tremendous amount of prosperity and a much better long
term financial security as a nation for all people if
you unleashed Elon in that regard. But remember, I think
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when was Bastia the Law written. I think it's seventeenth century.
And Clay he was writing on on the fiction of
the state as everyone thinking they can live at the
expense of everyone else. Right, And it's true, it's true.
That's what the Democrats offer. They offer the fiction that
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you can be effectively. Oh no, sorry, eighteen fifty. I
think a seven hundred, eighteen hundreds, eighteen fifty. But that's
what they offer, that everyone else will pay for all
of your stuff. I yes, And this is a long
range conversation. Five days we get an important election and
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the argument for Trump on the economy has already been
made because we had the best economy in the history
of the United States when he was in for his
first term, and that's why there is a nostalgic desire
for that to return. And all of their attacks on
Trump are predicated on COVID happening and largely blue state
and blue cities shutting down and forcing everybody to go
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home and not work. February twenty twenty are the greatest
economic numbers that have ever existed. Do you miss two
and a half percent mortgages? Do you miss inflation at
one and a half percent two percent? Do you miss
your wages significantly outpacing the grate of inflation, That is
real money in your pocket for white, Black, Asian and
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Hispanic individuals. If you miss all of that, I believe
Trump can return it if he's given the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But what Buck's saying is so important. Whatever happens the
next four years, we have major structural issues that have
to be addressed over the next generation, over the next
two generations. If you're around our age, Buck, let's say
you're forty and you hope to live into your eighties,
I have zero faith that Social Security as it exists
now is going to be my safety net when I'm
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eighty years old living in the United States. Zero because
the math just does a math and at some point
that becomes a big, huge, massive obstacle towards economic growth
that we have to reckon with. But in the short term,
Trump is the right economic answer. But make no mistake,
no matter who the president is, the challenges are still
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going to exist in the future, and candidates by and
large only want to focus on the present. They don't
really want to focus on the long long range. But
the way to solve this, I thought Art Leffert Laffer,
who was on with us, recently said, Look, the growth
rate of the economy is the key. That's really how
you put America in a different stratosphere. We have to
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get up to four percent growth. We have to get
up to four percent plus growth, because then the amount
of money being brought in on all fronts, rising tide
lifts all boats. It's not a complicated economic picture.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And there's also the energy. People can ask, well, what
would what would Trump do? What's different? There's the cutting
of spending, the elimination of regulation. Lad when you see
you know you run a business, and you know, we're
running a business together. Now, now you see the stuff
you have to deal with that is really just all
non productive rent seeking from the regulatory and government economy.
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Whatever business you are in, whatever you're dealing with, if
you're running an autobody shop, if you're you know, if
you're a general contractor if you're you know, whatever it is,
there are all of these unnecessary and onerous costs put
on you because unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, particularly at the federal
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but often at the state level as well, decide that
it's fair, or it's sustainable, or it's equity. You start
to pull all those shackles off the American people in
the American government just by approaching it with a common
sense attitude of isn't even the thing, We don't have
to worry about this, Why are you doing this? It
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would be a dramatic It would be a sea change,
I think, for the American economy. And this is but
gets me excited about the prospect of Trump two point
zero is to really just chang saw to not just
the deep state, but the bureaucratic state. We need to
unleash individual excellence in this country, and I think Trump
would do a better job of it by far than Kamala.
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And if you've ever founded a small business, if you've
ever had to make payroll, if you have ever had
other people's ability to take care of their families on
your shoulders, then you know better than anybody out there,
by and large on the Democrat side, how to grow
business and how to take responsibility for individual success in
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this country. And Trump is going to do a better
job of that by far. Economics is not even close
if you have a functional brain in terms of who's
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. All right, I had
mentioned this before. I've done some deep diving into the
official Kamala economic policy side of things, and uh, it
is just a lot of jargon. There is no there there.
I'm not the only one who has figured this out either.
Over at CNBC you have Phil Kernan. I think it's
(31:39):
Phil Kernan, right, Phil Murphy, Joe Kernin, Joe Kernel, thank you, yeah,
Joe Kernan, Phil Murphy. There we go. You got Kernin
and Murphy. And I thought this simply because it's not
just okay, he's a Democrat governor of a big state,
New Jersey, which he is. Murphy horrible on COVID by
the way, just throwing that out there. I remember because
I was living in New York at the time, in
a New Jersey. Yeah, I was seeing the press conferences too,
(32:01):
and I was like, you gotta be kidding me, you know,
the just horrible stuff, idiot stuff. But anyway, Murphy was
a he's a Wall Street guy. He's a rich guy,
and so he should understand how an economy works. I
want you to hear when Kernan is asking him straight up,
just explain to me the thing you like that Kamala says, not,
that's like a concept, right, Like Clay, I'm going to
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make everyone rich is a concept. I'm going to make
everyone rich. You can say that that sounds good, but
it leaves open how what are you going to do? Right?
I mean, Clay, if you were a coaching a football
team and you went in before the game, you said, guys,
we're gonna win this game, and that was all you said.
People might have some questions like, hey, coach, how are
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we going to win this game? And that is at
its essence what is missing with Kamalaism, if you will,
there is no explanation. There's only these airy phrases. There's
only you know, it's and And this is what happens
when when somebody who works in the world of financial
journalism asks somebody who understands, fine, it's hey, what do
you like about kamala Play the clip please?
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Governor? If we went on a checklist, you like all
the things that that you like Kamala Harris not just against.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
So what are Let me ask.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
You, do you believe we should abolished a filibuster? And
you can answer after I do it. How about getting
rid of private insurance? How about taxing unrealized gains? How
about nationalizing energy? How about mandatory gun buybacks like Australia.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
How about decriminalizing illegal.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
Crossings, ending cash bail, child gender reassignment surgery being paid
for in prison? I mean, what are your raising the
corporate tax rate? What are your favorite proposals from Kamala
Harris that make you like her so much?
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Which is though for a Jersey guy, For a Jersey guy,
you sound like your Eligi Trump campaign for credit a loud.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
When to those do you like? When to those do
you like? I to tell you, he had no answer. Uh,
we continue that club, which maybe we should play a
little bit more of it there. There's first of all,
he goes at homin mklay, which is always a big
tip off. Right, Oh, I was trying to be kind
of funny. He's like, you're a Jersey guy, you should
know better. No, this is the real, honest. What is
the thing that Kamala Harris has said she will do,
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not a feeling, she will evoke the thing she will
do that will accomplish anything. You know, what is the
lever that will be pulled that will result in the
following action? I don't know, does anybody know? I mean,
they talk about things in these broad and sweeping terms,
and I think it's very obvious because Kamala has no substance.
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She doesn't know what she's talking about. She doesn't know
how anything in the economy actually economy, actually functions, and
this is what happens. She's a mess.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And I do think that if you are in the
finance world, those questions are great, what is she going
to do that you specifically agree with? And I don't
even think it just has to be limited to the
finance world.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I think anyone out there, if you are asking them,
what do you think Kamala Harris has done well so
far such that she deserves a promotion and will do
well in the office of the presidency, I've never heard
anybody answer that. I mean, it's one thing to not
agree with Trump, but almost everybody is voting on the
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Democrat side against Trump. They aren't supporting Kamala and that's
important because she's in office right now, at least in
twenty twenty. Joe Biden could spin the web of I'm
going to restore normalcy to the country. I'm Scranton, Joe,
I'll solve all the issues that have arisen, in particular COVID.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
That's an argument.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Now, now it wasn't realized, but he wasn't in office
and he was saying I'll do a better job. What
argument has Kamala actually made suggesting she deserves a promotion.
If Kamala Harris's record existed in your place of employment.
Would she deserve a job promotion take it away from
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the president of the United States. If she was the
number two person in sales at your car dealership and
the guy who ran the car dealership had gotten too
old and he was retiring and sales had collapsed and
the overall success rate of the company was down, would
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people inside of the car dealership be like, hey, you
know what we need to do. Stick with the leadership
that we have right now. She would never get a
promotion someone trying to run a rational business that was failing,
as Kamala has failed as VP, would never elevate her
to CEO or commanding position. And again, buck that what
joke Hernan did there really just illustrates the only reason
(37:05):
people are voting for Kamala is because, to a large extent,
people's brains have been broken by negative Trump stories and
they have bought into derangement syndrome. And the reason why
I'm cautiously optimistic five days out that Trump is going
to win is there are a lot of you out
there listening to us right now who might have bought
that argument in twenty sixteen, who might even have bought
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that argument in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
But your eyes have.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Been opened and you have come to see how illegitimate
that argument is. And I thought the clip we played
a CBS was a perfect distillation of this, and in fact,
in the third hour, maybe we'll dive into this. Did
you see Brian Stelter saying if Trump wins, basically the
mainstream media is dead. I'm paraphrasing the tweet he sent
It important we should hit that. I did see that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I was thinking about that for today's show as well,
because it is true. How do all these mainstream I
don't like that term, still use it sometimes by habit,
these legacy Democrat outlets, Clay, How do they tell everybody
that it's the end of democracy and Trump is hitler
and then he wins and then everything's actually going along
(38:12):
just fine. How would you listen to anybody who does that? Ever?
Get the entire Democrat media has gone along with that.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yes, and again we'll read that exact tweet. But I
do think that he's right on that in some level.
And that's why I want to win the popular vote.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
That's why I want all of you out there.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I don't just want Donald Trump to win the electoral
college by the skin of his teeth. I mean I
would sign up for that right now, because I think
it's important enough that he win. But in my ideal world,
New Hampshire is too close to call. New Mexico, where
Trump is visiting, is too close to call. Virginia is
too close to call, Minnesota is too close to call.
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We're expanding the battlefield to such an extent that Trump
has a real chance to win not only a huge
dilectoral college victory, but to win the actual popular vote,
because then all of these individuals out there are forced
to reconcile with the lies that they have told. Not
(39:12):
only that, but how I would argue, not only are
they being increasingly put to the sideline, Buck, I would
even argue that most of what you're seeing now of
the propaganda media is actually aiding Trump because there are
enough people paying attention now who are willing to change
(39:33):
their vote. And when they see Nora O'Donnell open CBS
News in the method in which she did. I mean,
this is supposed to be a non biased, impartial newscast, Buck,
That's why CBS has a broadcast license, and they clearly
are not doing that. They're just reading propaganda. It might
as well have been MSNBC that was employing Nora O'Donnell
as she ran through there. Well that's some when we
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Terms apply cheap up with Clay and Bucks campaign coverage
with twenty four a Sunday highlight reel from the week.
Find it on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts. Third Hour We're going to dive into
some of these predictions that are out there about what
the numbers are going to look like again continuing to
(41:44):
look really, really good, but the data will dive into
some of the data, and I'll give you a deep
dive of where we think we're headed.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I posted a poll and I'm curious. This is a
fun one. It's Halloween. I know we're in the middle
of serious times, but I was curious what your answer
to this would be. So I am a fan of
nineteen eighties horror movies back in the day. Back in
the day, you could watch Nightmare on Elm Street. You
could watch Jason, you could watch Halloween, you could watch Chucky.
(42:17):
These are nineteen eighties in particular. Yes, which was the
best nineteen eighties villain from the horror movie genre? If
I gave you Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Jason and Chucky
as the four options, which is a poll that I
put up, which would you say was the best?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I have only seen those movies. I think there were
like eight of them for each one of those genres made.
I'm not an expert at all on this. Unlike action movies,
where I'm a world class expert. I am like a PhD.
In eighties action films. Yes, I can do entire scripts
from those movies. If it has Van Damdolph Lunkren, Schwarzenegger,
(42:59):
et cetera, I can do the whole thing. In my head.
I would say of the horror genre, Michael Myers from
Halloween I think is the most iconic, followed by Jason.
I was never a Freddy Krueger guy personally. I didn't
really get that one.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I would have gone Freddy Krueger number one overall. The
voters have gone with you and Michael Myers. Michael Myers
is getting forty three percent of the vote as the
best nineteen eighties horror movie villain out there.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
What is the scariest movie you've ever seen? Oh, that's
a great question. It is a great question. I would team.
You can also weigh in New York while Clay's figuring
it out, so you can whisper it in my ear
via the mic here or via the headphones. What do
you think the best one is? What do you got
for me? Clay? I would probably go with the.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh, man, I watched all of it and and I'm
gonna forget what they're called now, the UH the ones
about the Catholic priests who would investigate No, not the
Exorcist standing alone. That's really good, but they're these are
more recent and they go out and they basically investigate
(44:09):
all of these paranormal activities. It's a husband and a wife,
so I guess he's not a Catholic priest, but he
is a a religious figure.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Not a very good one.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, well, but maybe there's an exception if you're doing
the UH, doing those investigations, and the title of these
movies is right off the edge of my tongue, and
I'm sure I'm getting blown up right now. But Annabelle
is the doll that is in them, and there's an
entire idea.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Does anyone know if I have no idea what Clay's
talking about with this series? What is the series he's
talking about? The conjuring, the conjuring. The conjuring movies I
think are the scariest because Buck to me, like I
understand the concept of hey, you're like a crazy clown
and you're walking like it was a scary movie recently
(44:58):
came out. Sure, that's spooky, but the way scarier parts
are where you have like the devil possession, like someone
engaging in some sort of behavior like that really gets me.
I mean, our friend Sean Ryan on his podcast long
form podcast was doing great, so many people listening. He
(45:18):
had on a guy who a Catholic priest who does exorcisms.
Recently I saw that and talked about his everyday Carrie,
which included a piece of the True Cross. Very interesting stuff.
I would say The Exorcist is still the scariest movie
that I've ever seen, although there's a director who's pretty
in vogue these days. Who did that? Who did The Northman?
(45:39):
He also did a movie, The Witch. That was the
last horror movie that I have seen. I think it
was twenty eighteen maybe, and I'm like, I decided I'm done.
I actually I actually won't sit through a horror movie
now I won't. You know, I'm out. I'm out.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
My wife won't do horror movies. I love like the
Scream movie. Those are really fun. I've watched them with
my boys.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Those are really those are really more like murder mystery movies,
those screen movies. They're not really horror. It's not like
monsters or you know, possessed people. It's just like lunatics. Yeah,
a lunatic killer. By the way, the two guys two people,
ed Edward Warren and his wife Lorraine Morgan, are the
characters that are played and in the Conjuring movies, and
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it's basically demonic possession, the stories of them trying to
go out and solve all of these paranormal activity, demonic possessions,
and so they started in twenty thirteen. I was on
a plane flight buck I think it was like cross
country or may have been. I was going to England
or something, and it's rare that I have just tons
of time, and I watched three straight conjuring movies on
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an airplane, which I would think is probably one of
the least threatening places you could be because everybody's been screened.
You know, like there's there's no like the real danger
by and large on an airplane, as the plane could
go down, but not that crazy things are gonna happen
on the airplane. I did used to watch in the eighties.
I think they're horror, but in the horror thriller genre.
Do you remember a movie called Critters. Oh, there were
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guys from space and they have like laser guns and
the little monsters that eat people like they used to
make these, used to make these crazy movies like in
Red the little spines they would shoot at people. I
can't believe they used to watch this crapt It was
on like Channel eleven in New York City, and I
would watch these bizarre movies like that. And I saw
on HBO The Hills Have Eyes. I do not recommend that.
(47:28):
That was traumatizing. I would I would never watch that again.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
You know what used to get me back when I
was a kid, Buck Unsolved Mysteries When The Unsolved Mysteries
music came on, if you were a kid at home
by yourself, that was I think the creepiest show that
you could watch on like NBC or whatever. It was
regular television by far the scariest one out there, beyond
(47:52):
a shadow of a doubt. But I bet a lot
I can. My mentions have exploded A lot of you
are agreeing with me on the conjuring series of movie.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Where are you on vampires and Dracula stuff? I still
a pull that that for timelessness and entertainment value. Bram
Stoker's Dracula is actually one of I think it's one
of the greatest novels of all time, which I know
people flip out about, but I'm like, no, it's it's amazing.
It's incredibly well written, and it created the whole vampire genre.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, and Francis Ford Coppola's version of Dracula is actually
incredibly well done.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
That was Keanu Reeves, right, isn't it? In that Gary? No,
that wash you're talking about, the one with the British
guy Gary Oldman, Yeah, Garylden like that nineties.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, I thought Keanu Reeves was the young guy who
was like coming up to that, like playing that. Yeah,
that's that one is really well done. I like, But
I like my vampires, as my friend Mike Lee rest
in Peace used to say, not the MOPI vampires, like
the evil actually scary vampires, not like the romantic team,
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you know, vampires which have taken over.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
This is also where I gotta say I got throwing
a word from a man Wesley Snipes in Blade, which
I always talk about because underrated fand
Happy Halloween and happy five days until election Day. We
are going to have some fun with you on a
variety of different topics out there. Hope all of you
are having fantastic starts to your Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hope that with your.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Kids or your grandkids, you're going to have some fun
trig or treating in the midst of all the election insanity.
I will be out and about with my ten year
old and it's gonna be a lot of fun. Not
gonna lie. I enjoy going trick or treating with my kids,
and I don't know how many more years of trigger
treating I've got, so I'm going to take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I hope all of you will as well.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And boy, I just Trump is running buck I think
the most fun presidential campaign that I can remember in
modern memory. And what's staggering about it is he's doing
it just a few months after a bullet came within
a quarter of an inch of blowing his head off.
(01:03):
The amount of joy, the amount of resiliency, the amount
of sheer fun that he is packing into the last
couple of weeks of this campaign is really pretty extraordinary.
And we're gonna play a couple of cuts from you. Yesterday,
Donald Trump was with Brett Varvre and our friend Eric
(01:23):
Hovdy up in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and he showed up,
came off of the airplane dressed as a garbage man.
After Donald Trump, sorry, after Joe Biden referred to Trump
supporters as garbage and proceeded to climb into a garbage
truck and conduct a press conference inside of the garbage truck.
(01:46):
He then went to the rally and did the entire
rally wearing a garbage man jacket and buck. It is
completely taken over the news media cycle. Even the left
wing media that wanted to pretend Joe Biden didn't call
Trump supporters garbage has been forced to cover Trump mocking
(02:09):
that assertion by Biden, and it has taken over now
a couple of days of the news cycle. Whatever Kamala
Harris said on Tuesday in her big Ellipse speech is
totally vanished from the news cycle. And I'm sure with
your behind the scenes coverage of the MSNBC crazy people,
you are beginning to detect that they are being driven
(02:32):
a bit bonkers as Trump continues to command the news cycle,
and they're slowly a realization setting in that he is
likely to win on Tuesday, as the early voting numbers
continue to be in Republican favor. We've got to sprint
through the finish line. All of you have to get
out and vote. But Trump is commanding the stage. Whether
(02:53):
it was working as a fry cook at McDonald's, whether
it was taking over Madison Square Garden and now driving
around in a garbage truck in a garbage outfit, he
has completely commandeered all news coverage and frankly, a joyful
and genius combination, the likes of which I don't think
we've ever seen. Can you remember a presidential candidate who
(03:15):
appeared to be having more fun down the stretch run
than right now Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I cannot. It's really amazing to see. I thought it
was so much fun. Also, because the more fun Trump has,
the more he ends up trolling people who are miserable
and hate him. Right, So it's this double effect of
when Trump is doing things that show the people who
(03:42):
support him that he actually doesn't take himself too seriously.
He's having a good time. He wants to you know,
it's funny. Kama talks about joy I see nothing joyful
about her campaign ever. In fact, it always feels a
little bit like you're some kind of like a waiting
room of a medical office or something. You see these
Kamala rallies, everyone's kind of just like, yeah, this is great.
(04:04):
Like I don't think they think it's great. They have
so tried so hard to convince everyone through saying that
Trump is a fascist and that this will be the
end of democracy. I think that they've recognized at this point, Clay,
if you are capable of taking in information and making
a judgment about it, meaning you have not been a
(04:25):
brainwashed I mean, you have not been subject to effectively
a sustained campaign of propaganda and mind control. If you
are able to make judgments about information as it comes
to you. When they say Trump is a fascist, you say,
that's just silly. It's just silly. I mean, it's a lie,
but it's also absurd. And I think that there's a
(04:47):
bit of a creeping hysteria now at the notion that
this may not go Kamala's way. And it's funny because
at some level, the emotional stakes, the stakes for the country,
I think, Clay, are very high, and we can get
into that the emotiontional stakes, though we'll be fine. You
and I will be fine if Trump doesn't win this thing. Uh,
we're not gonna cry, We're not gonna We're not gonna
(05:08):
say that it's time for despair. And you know, we'll
come here, we'll figure it out. Maybe we have the setate,
maybe of the house. You know, we get we gear up.
Jd Vance is phenomenal. You've got a whole bunch of
other people the top of the GOP who are gonna
beat MAGA for the next generation. So we'll be fine.
I still think Trump's gonna win, to be clear, and
I think the Democrats realize that too. But my point
(05:30):
is merely we go into this thinking, all right, I
hope America makes the right choice. Clay, the other side
is ready for total emotional sure, noobyl Yeah, they cannot hand.
And they've convinced themselves of this. They've created this world
in which if Donald Trump wins, everything falls apart. Now,
(05:50):
some of them, like the some of the MSNBC hosts
and the commentators, they don't really believe it, right, It's
just this is a way to manipulate and entice the audience.
Catastrophism is always interesting to people, especially those or emotionally unstable.
But Trump's having a great time. We should play Let's
play some of the excerpts from the speech, because they're.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I've got I've got here. Cut fourteen. This is Trump
telling the story of how the garbage truck and the
orange vest came to be at his Green Bay, Wisconsin
rally yesterday.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Listen to cut fourteen.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So this outfit, you know, is uh when they when
he called us all garbage, how stupid?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
What a stupid word? That blows deplorable away, don't you think?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Of course I thought irredeemable when she said deplorable or irredeemable,
I thought irredeemable was actually worse, but deplorable seemed.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
To catch up.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But this garbage stuff blows, blows it away.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So I'm in this beautiful plane, I'm enjoying myself, have
a wonderful suit on. And one of my people came
in and said, sure, you know, the word garbage is
the hottest thing right now out there, the honest thing
(07:09):
out there, shir would you like to drive a garbage truck?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And we've got more buck.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
There's about five minutes there of Trump talking about wearing
the garbage outfit and we've got that now where he
says that he was like, oh, there's no way. So
he talks all about and a part of me thinks,
in fact, guys, can you just pull I shared? I
think a five minute clip maybe in the third hour.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We almost never do this to play a clip that long.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think it's so incredibly funny and illustrative of what
Trump is actually like that if you guys didn't hear it,
I think you may love it in the third hour,
So put a pin in this. We don't usually play
things for that long. Sometimes we go to live events
and play it. But I think we may even be
needing to play that whole five minutes for you because
it was so good. But there's a snippet of it.
(08:08):
Here's another part of it, buck where he says he
wasn't planning on wearing the outfit, but they told him
that it made him look slimmer. And this is really
funny again, Listen.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I got in the car and I'm driving over here,
and I have this still long and I come into
the arena and I said, where's my jacket? I want
to get out of this stake, And they said it
would be unbelievable if you could wear it on stage, I.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Said, And I said, no way.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I got twenty five thousand people standing outside.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I got all these people here.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
There's no way I'm wearing it on stage. They said,
oh okay, I said, get me my jacket. But if
you did, you know it actually makes you look thinner,
I said, and they got me. I said, I want
to wear.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
It on stage. When they said I look thinner, I said,
in that case, I'll wear Say.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Buck calling this guy Hitler, you can disagree with anybody politically.
The thing that you and I really have never been
able to get over, and I think it's registering more
and more with a lot of other people. He's a
really likable, joyful guy. He's not dour, he's not trying
to kill me. But like, the idea that he's Hitler
(09:42):
is so laughably absurd. The fact that it works for
anyone to me is a function of how broken their
brains are. That's the only way to even defend it.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
One of the frustrations that we all have to just
be prepared for is that whoever the next Republican is
on deck, they're also going to say is a fascist.
Just it doesn't really matter. They just are engaged in
a campaign of emotional manipulation. And unfortunately, the Democrat Party
I think is defined more by hysteria than anything else. Now,
(10:15):
if you don't go along with it, you are not
to be trusted. Clay, you all know what I was
watching this morning, four hundred historians four hundred and I
want to say, I said the like, what does that
even mean? Well, you get a bunch of like third
tier college history professors who've written one book to be Look,
I don't like Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm supposed to be so angry as a history guy, Buck,
I love history. I like reading history books. I thought
about getting a PhD in history. I could have been
one of those, you know, college professors who are teaching history.
They're all their brains are broken, and if anything, they
should have more of an understanding of not being emotionally
(10:56):
overridden written by the moment, because history teaches us to
be humble and intelligent about the flow of history. And
so when I hear all these historians going on morning Joe,
I mean, tell us what it was like.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I mean, they really are. First of all, they had
a whole I probably need to stop guys like do
I maybe just after the election, I had to stop
watching Morning Joe because it is like an It's like
an entry into a parallel universe that I don't none
of you are dealing with. None of you have to
go through this portal into madness. But I sit there.
(11:31):
I drink my Crockett coffee, so at least it feels
like I have a safety blanket that I'm drinking. If
you will, I sit there, like Crocket coffee. I watch
Morning Joe and they're just living on another planet. I think.
I try to understand what it is that they're saying
and come to their perspective, or how do they come
to their perspective? Clay. They were talking this morning about
(11:52):
how Donald Trump, just like Joe Biden, has cognitive decline. Yeah,
there was a segment about this. I'm like, Donald Trump
is doing stand up comedy on the fly and two
hour long rallies. You know, I don't even know, and
they're talking about cognitive decline. They there is no there's
no connection to reality for these people. And Kamala the
(12:15):
things they say, abou Kamala Harris. You know what the
primary message is that she's gonna be a uniter and
a moderate. There is nothing. Nothing in Kamala Harris's whatever
I would is she like fifty nine or something, or
like roughly sixty sixty, oh sixty, okay, rough her sixty
years of life. There is nothing to indicate Kamala Harris
(12:36):
is a moderate, is a uniter, is competent, is a
particularly hard worker, is particularly efficient, gets things done, whether
it's as a legislator or as a prosecutor. And they're
just talking about how great she's gonna be. And they
had these four hundred historians who are saying the future
(12:56):
I am not exaggerating the future of the country. Clay
hangs the balance. If Donald Trump gets a second term,
how do you even discuss this with people? How do
you even approach this?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
There's so much fun. He let's have fun. But I
do think Trump actually directly addressed the cognitive attax buck
by saying he was so nervous climbing into the garbage
truck because if you look at how much he had
to lift himself, I mean, that's not an easy thing
to do for a young man. If you look at
(13:29):
how high the step up. He brilliantly attacks what they
would have said if he weren't able to pull himself
all the way up in there.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I think we need to play it in the third hour.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I think we need to kick back, let people hear
about what I think is five minutes of the best
most entertaining rally material just from a pure fun perspective
that maybe has ever existed in my life in a
presidential campaign. When we come back in the third hour,
we'll play that for you. In the meantime, dive into
(14:00):
the data. We got a lot to share with you here.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Have some fun.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
By the way, it's also Halloween, and there's some good
fun topics we can have as well.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We'll take some of your calls.
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I'm in a festive mood, buck because I am very
optimistic as we sit here five days out, and I
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Speaker 2 (16:14):
I gotta tell you, Clay, I almost set of Trump
and Kamala kicks off, because that's what's the top of mind.
We're in the midst of the absolute peak of the
election cycle, and I just ran up a flight of
stairs at light speed because I realized that we were
in a commercial break that was coming to an end.
So let me say this as I am catching my
(16:37):
breath here at Clay. Some of the things that we
are seeing from the Kamala campaign you would absolutely expect,
which would be the phrases about how she's going to
help the middle class and all the stuff about how
she hates Donald Trump. One area where I think she
has particular weakness is on the economy, because I view
(17:04):
it as such Kamala has been the vice president for
four years. She has been part of an administration that
has been the steward of the economy. Now, if we're
gonna play the game that they always do, which is
it was Obama's economy when it's good, It's Trump's economy
when it's bad, or you know whatever. They like to
pretend that you can't actually ascribe any economic good things
(17:30):
or bad things to any individual administration. That's nonsense that
I think is just an indicator of how much the
Kamala Biden economy has been an absolute mess. So when
Bill Clinton is up there in Muskegan, is that right?
(17:51):
How do you do Michigan, Mician, Miskegan Heights, Michigan. I
just don't want to offend the good people of Miskegan
Heights by saying it wrong. Miskegan, it's Michigan. Bill Clinton's like, well, yeah,
I mean the economy was better under Donald Trump. But
this is eighteen play it.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
I don't think it's right to say that people have
to vote for Donald Trump because the economy was better there.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I don't believe that not a good enough reason apparently,
to vote because the economy was better. You know, they've
they've put out all of these different Democrats. They wish
they didn't have to have the current occupant of the
White House, Joe Biden, as somebody who is a surrogate
for Kamala out there. But they do play on the
(18:36):
economic issue. I saw the governor of New Jersey and
I'll grab some of this audio for everybody, in a
back and forth with one of the guys on the
squawk Box, the NBC show. I forget his name, but Kernin,
I think his name is Kernin, and he asked the
governor of New Jersey. He goes, hey, what is the
(18:57):
Kamala economic policy that you like?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Not?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Donald Trump? Is Hitler? Not? You know, this is our democracy.
These are meaningless phrases, Okay, And just to be clear,
as they're lecturing us about fascism and autocracy, every autocracy,
every fascist. There's a reason they call it the People's
Republic of China. There's a reason why they call it
the democratic People's Republic of North Korea. Right. They try
(19:25):
to take the language of democracy, human rights, dignity, etc.
And use it for the worst regimes possible. Using the
words means absolutely nothing. In fact, it's often a tell
the people who are like, we're all about democracy. Every
dictator says that they're about the people always, but Clay
when he tries to get some push or when he
(19:45):
tries to push the government of Jersey Phil Murphy, who's
a big Democrat, but it was also a Wall Street guy.
That's the whole point, right, he's a former water Wasn't
he a senior guy like Goldman Sachs. He's trying to
push him on what the best Kamala policy is. He
can't think of one and every economic policy that there's
(20:07):
any discussion of from Kamala Harris right, whether it's taxing
unrealized gains, what is what is fair taxation? This is
she's gotten away with an entire campaign of saying we're gonna,
you know, make people pay their fair share, which is
an obamaism. By the way, Obama used to say that
too means nothing, right. I mean this is this is
very much a time when I think people could go
(20:29):
back and read Orwell's Animal Farm and they will understand
the slogans. It's all of course meant to be. It's
really a biting satire of the Soviets. But saying things
like pay your fair share? What is that it means nothing.
It's it's whatever you say it is. And I just
think that people are recognizing the Kamala campaign has no
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economic policy that they're willing to say out loud.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I there are several stats about the way that we
focus on taxation now that drive me crazy. But one
of them, Buck is, you know, over half of Americans
don't pay a dollar in federal income tax. If you
are listening to us right now and you pay one
dollar in federal income tax, you are in the top
(21:18):
half of tax payers in America. So when they run
around and try to say, oh, we've got to make
sure the rich pay their fair share, I believe the
top twenty percent pays eighty percent of all federal income tax.
That seems way more than a fair share to me.
And look, I've been in the camp where I didn't
make very much money and I didn't have to pay
(21:40):
very much in taxes, and now fortunately I make a
lot more money. But I don't feel like the money
that I'm giving to the federal government is in any
way by and large being spent well. I think that
I could spend it better to try to help America
to a large extent, than the federal government could. And
(22:00):
this is why, big picture, our federal budget is broken.
And I love the idea, buck of I would vote
for Trump just based on Hey, Elon Musk, go look
at the federal budget and figure out what we can
just try and cut, because Elon says he thinks he
could find two trillion dollars in savings in our federal budget.
(22:25):
Wouldn't you like to have somebody as smart as Elon
Musk just going through the federal budget line by line.
He fired seventy five percent of the people at Twitter,
and the company works just as well as it did before.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Actually he's going to we fire. Yeah. I know a
lot of people that are making real money off of
x now no longer Twitter. Yes, but that was never
the case before Twitter was getting a free ride off
of everybody else. Now you're really a partner with Twitter,
and you also have free speech as a result of it.
I think Elon Musk going in and with a chainsaw
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in the federal budget. You have to do it, and
it would be scary to some people, right, the notion
of how much he would cut. When you'd start to
look at what cutting a trillion or two trillion dollars
out of the federal budget would look like it's going
to touch things that people don't want to be touched.
This is one of the problems we have. You cannot
win in American politics right now. If you are serious
(23:24):
about tackling the debt, and if you really want to
start to pay it down, you cannot win. You will
not win Donald Bright very in favor of all entitlements.
That's a reality. What you need is effectively a shock
therapy where Elon Musk and his team, because he would
build a team to do this, comes in and they go,
we are going to unshackle the productivity and private economy
of the American people from this be a myth of
(23:47):
federal spending and then the prosperity and the explosion of
real wealth, not money printing, which is just meant to
paper over the fact that we're giving more to people
than we are producing in some sectors. The money printing
is a death sentence for our economy over the long term.
(24:07):
Elon comes in under Trump administration dramatically cuts that budget,
they will freak out. They will say it at the end,
but they've already said that we're all hitler. So who
really Cares and Clay, it would be remarkable. I mean,
you'd see it would be a little bit like Calvin
Coolidge back in the day, right, Calvin Coolidge brought income
tax rates down enormously, actually cut spending, cut the budget,
(24:29):
and they were always all cats and dogs living together,
mass hysteria. Then of course not Roaring twenties, massive economic
advancements and a boom. I think that we could have
a tremendous amount of prosperity and a much better long
term financial security as a nation for all people if
you unleashed Elon in that regard. But remember, I think
(24:52):
when was Bastia the Law written. I think it's seventeenth century.
And Clay he was writing on on the fiction of
the state as everyone thinking they can live at the
expense of everyone else. Right, And it's true, it's true.
That's what the Democrats offer. They offer the fiction that
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you can be effectively. Oh no, sorry, eighteen fifty. I
think a seven hundred, eighteen hundreds, eighteen fifty. But that's
what they offer, that everyone else will pay for all
of your stuff. I yes, And this is a long
range conversation. Five days we get an important election and
(25:35):
the argument for Trump on the economy has already been
made because we had the best economy in the history
of the United States when he was in for his
first term, and that's why there is a nostalgic desire
for that to return. And all of their attacks on
Trump are predicated on COVID happening and largely blue state
and blue cities shutting down and forcing everybody to go
(25:57):
home and not work. February twenty twenty are the greatest
economic numbers that have ever existed. Do you miss two
and a half percent mortgages? Do you miss inflation at
one and a half percent two percent? Do you miss
your wages significantly outpacing the grate of inflation, That is
real money in your pocket for white, Black, Asian and
(26:19):
Hispanic individuals. If you miss all of that, I believe
Trump can return it if he's given the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But what Buck's saying is so important. Whatever happens the
next four years, we have major structural issues that have
to be addressed over the next generation, over the next
two generations. If you're around our age, Buck, let's say
you're forty and you hope to live into your eighties,
I have zero faith that Social Security as it exists
now is going to be my safety net when I'm
(26:49):
eighty years old living in the United States. Zero because
the math just does a math and at some point
that becomes a big, huge, massive obstacle towards economic growth
that we have to reckon with. But in the short term,
Trump is the right economic answer. But make no mistake,
no matter who the president is, the challenges are still
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going to exist in the future, and candidates by and
large only want to focus on the present. They don't
really want to focus on the long long range. But
the way to solve this, I thought Art Leffert Laffer,
who was on with us, recently said, Look, the growth
rate of the economy is the key. That's really how
you put America in a different stratosphere. We have to
(27:33):
get up to four percent growth. We have to get
up to four percent plus growth, because then the amount
of money being brought in on all fronts, rising tide
lifts all boats. It's not a complicated economic picture.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And there's also the energy. People can ask, well, what
would what would Trump do? What's different? There's the cutting
of spending, the elimination of regulation. Lad when you see
you know you run a business, and you know, we're
running a business together. Now, now you see the stuff
you have to deal with that is really just all
non productive rent seeking from the regulatory and government economy.
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Whatever business you are in, whatever you're dealing with, if
you're running an autobody shop, if you're you know, if
you're a general contractor if you're you know, whatever it is,
there are all of these unnecessary and onerous costs put
on you because unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, particularly at the federal
(28:34):
but often at the state level as well, decide that
it's fair, or it's sustainable, or it's equity. You start
to pull all those shackles off the American people in
the American government just by approaching it with a common
sense attitude of isn't even the thing, We don't have
to worry about this, Why are you doing this? It
(28:55):
would be a dramatic It would be a sea change,
I think, for the American economy. And this is but
gets me excited about the prospect of Trump two point
zero is to really just chang saw to not just
the deep state, but the bureaucratic state. We need to
unleash individual excellence in this country, and I think Trump
would do a better job of it by far than Kamala.
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And if you've ever founded a small business, if you've
ever had to make payroll, if you have ever had
other people's ability to take care of their families on
your shoulders, then you know better than anybody out there,
by and large on the Democrat side, how to grow
business and how to take responsibility for individual success in
(29:39):
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. All right, I had
mentioned this before. I've done some deep diving into the
official Kamala economic policy side of things, and uh, it
is just a lot of jargon. There is no there there.
I'm not the only one who has figured this out either.
Over at CNBC you have Phil Kernan. I think it's
(31:39):
Phil Kernan, right, Phil Murphy, Joe Kernin, Joe Kernel, thank you, yeah,
Joe Kernan, Phil Murphy. There we go. You got Kernin
and Murphy. And I thought this simply because it's not
just okay, he's a Democrat governor of a big state,
New Jersey, which he is. Murphy horrible on COVID by
the way, just throwing that out there. I remember because
I was living in New York at the time, in
a New Jersey. Yeah, I was seeing the press conferences too,
(32:01):
and I was like, you gotta be kidding me, you know,
the just horrible stuff, idiot stuff. But anyway, Murphy was
a he's a Wall Street guy. He's a rich guy,
and so he should understand how an economy works. I
want you to hear when Kernan is asking him straight up,
just explain to me the thing you like that Kamala says, not,
that's like a concept, right, Like Clay, I'm going to
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make everyone rich is a concept. I'm going to make
everyone rich. You can say that that sounds good, but
it leaves open how what are you going to do? Right?
I mean, Clay, if you were a coaching a football
team and you went in before the game, you said, guys,
we're gonna win this game, and that was all you said.
People might have some questions like, hey, coach, how are
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we going to win this game? And that is at
its essence what is missing with Kamalaism, if you will,
there is no explanation. There's only these airy phrases. There's
only you know, it's and And this is what happens
when when somebody who works in the world of financial
journalism asks somebody who understands, fine, it's hey, what do
you like about kamala Play the clip please?
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Governor? If we went on a checklist, you like all
the things that that you like Kamala Harris not just against.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
So what are Let me ask.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
You, do you believe we should abolished a filibuster? And
you can answer after I do it. How about getting
rid of private insurance? How about taxing unrealized gains? How
about nationalizing energy? How about mandatory gun buybacks like Australia.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
How about decriminalizing illegal.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
Crossings, ending cash bail, child gender reassignment surgery being paid
for in prison? I mean, what are your raising the
corporate tax rate? What are your favorite proposals from Kamala
Harris that make you like her so much?
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Which is though for a Jersey guy, For a Jersey guy,
you sound like your Eligi Trump campaign for credit a loud.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
When to those do you like? When to those do
you like? I to tell you, he had no answer. Uh,
we continue that club, which maybe we should play a
little bit more of it there. There's first of all,
he goes at homin mklay, which is always a big
tip off. Right, Oh, I was trying to be kind
of funny. He's like, you're a Jersey guy, you should
know better. No, this is the real, honest. What is
the thing that Kamala Harris has said she will do,
(34:26):
not a feeling, she will evoke the thing she will
do that will accomplish anything. You know, what is the
lever that will be pulled that will result in the
following action? I don't know, does anybody know? I mean,
they talk about things in these broad and sweeping terms,
and I think it's very obvious because Kamala has no substance.
(34:47):
She doesn't know what she's talking about. She doesn't know
how anything in the economy actually economy, actually functions, and
this is what happens. She's a mess.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And I do think that if you are in the
finance world, those questions are great, what is she going
to do that you specifically agree with? And I don't
even think it just has to be limited to the
finance world.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I think anyone out there, if you are asking them,
what do you think Kamala Harris has done well so
far such that she deserves a promotion and will do
well in the office of the presidency, I've never heard
anybody answer that. I mean, it's one thing to not
agree with Trump, but almost everybody is voting on the
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Democrat side against Trump. They aren't supporting Kamala and that's
important because she's in office right now, at least in
twenty twenty. Joe Biden could spin the web of I'm
going to restore normalcy to the country. I'm Scranton, Joe,
I'll solve all the issues that have arisen, in particular COVID.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
That's an argument.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Now, now it wasn't realized, but he wasn't in office
and he was saying I'll do a better job. What
argument has Kamala actually made suggesting she deserves a promotion.
If Kamala Harris's record existed in your place of employment.
Would she deserve a job promotion take it away from
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the president of the United States. If she was the
number two person in sales at your car dealership and
the guy who ran the car dealership had gotten too
old and he was retiring and sales had collapsed and
the overall success rate of the company was down, would
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people inside of the car dealership be like, hey, you
know what we need to do. Stick with the leadership
that we have right now. She would never get a
promotion someone trying to run a rational business that was failing,
as Kamala has failed as VP, would never elevate her
to CEO or commanding position. And again, buck that what
joke Hernan did there really just illustrates the only reason
(37:05):
people are voting for Kamala is because, to a large extent,
people's brains have been broken by negative Trump stories and
they have bought into derangement syndrome. And the reason why
I'm cautiously optimistic five days out that Trump is going
to win is there are a lot of you out
there listening to us right now who might have bought
that argument in twenty sixteen, who might even have bought
(37:26):
that argument in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
But your eyes have.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Been opened and you have come to see how illegitimate
that argument is. And I thought the clip we played
a CBS was a perfect distillation of this, and in fact,
in the third hour, maybe we'll dive into this. Did
you see Brian Stelter saying if Trump wins, basically the
mainstream media is dead. I'm paraphrasing the tweet he sent
It important we should hit that. I did see that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I was thinking about that for today's show as well,
because it is true. How do all these mainstream I
don't like that term, still use it sometimes by habit,
these legacy Democrat outlets, Clay, How do they tell everybody
that it's the end of democracy and Trump is hitler
and then he wins and then everything's actually going along
(38:12):
just fine. How would you listen to anybody who does that? Ever?
Get the entire Democrat media has gone along with that.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yes, and again we'll read that exact tweet. But I
do think that he's right on that in some level.
And that's why I want to win the popular vote.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
That's why I want all of you out there.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I don't just want Donald Trump to win the electoral
college by the skin of his teeth. I mean I
would sign up for that right now, because I think
it's important enough that he win. But in my ideal world,
New Hampshire is too close to call. New Mexico, where
Trump is visiting, is too close to call. Virginia is
too close to call, Minnesota is too close to call.
(38:51):
We're expanding the battlefield to such an extent that Trump
has a real chance to win not only a huge
dilectoral college victory, but to win the actual popular vote,
because then all of these individuals out there are forced
to reconcile with the lies that they have told. Not
(39:12):
only that, but how I would argue, not only are
they being increasingly put to the sideline, Buck, I would
even argue that most of what you're seeing now of
the propaganda media is actually aiding Trump because there are
enough people paying attention now who are willing to change
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their vote. And when they see Nora O'Donnell open CBS
News in the method in which she did. I mean,
this is supposed to be a non biased, impartial newscast, Buck,
That's why CBS has a broadcast license, and they clearly
are not doing that. They're just reading propaganda. It might
as well have been MSNBC that was employing Nora O'Donnell
as she ran through there. Well that's some when we
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Speaker 6 (41:22):
Terms apply cheap up with Clay and Bucks campaign coverage
with twenty four a Sunday highlight reel from the week.
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some of these predictions that are out there about what
the numbers are going to look like again continuing to
(41:44):
look really, really good, but the data will dive into
some of the data, and I'll give you a deep
dive of where we think we're headed.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I posted a poll and I'm curious. This is a
fun one. It's Halloween. I know we're in the middle
of serious times, but I was curious what your answer
to this would be. So I am a fan of
nineteen eighties horror movies back in the day. Back in
the day, you could watch Nightmare on Elm Street. You
could watch Jason, you could watch Halloween, you could watch Chucky.
(42:17):
These are nineteen eighties in particular. Yes, which was the
best nineteen eighties villain from the horror movie genre? If
I gave you Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Jason and Chucky
as the four options, which is a poll that I
put up, which would you say was the best?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I have only seen those movies. I think there were
like eight of them for each one of those genres made.
I'm not an expert at all on this. Unlike action movies,
where I'm a world class expert. I am like a PhD.
In eighties action films. Yes, I can do entire scripts
from those movies. If it has Van Damdolph Lunkren, Schwarzenegger,
(42:59):
et cetera, I can do the whole thing. In my head.
I would say of the horror genre, Michael Myers from
Halloween I think is the most iconic, followed by Jason.
I was never a Freddy Krueger guy personally. I didn't
really get that one.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I would have gone Freddy Krueger number one overall. The
voters have gone with you and Michael Myers. Michael Myers
is getting forty three percent of the vote as the
best nineteen eighties horror movie villain out there.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
What is the scariest movie you've ever seen? Oh, that's
a great question. It is a great question. I would team.
You can also weigh in New York while Clay's figuring
it out, so you can whisper it in my ear
via the mic here or via the headphones. What do
you think the best one is? What do you got
for me? Clay? I would probably go with the.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh, man, I watched all of it and and I'm
gonna forget what they're called now, the UH the ones
about the Catholic priests who would investigate No, not the
Exorcist standing alone. That's really good, but they're these are
more recent and they go out and they basically investigate
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all of these paranormal activities. It's a husband and a wife,
so I guess he's not a Catholic priest, but he
is a a religious figure.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Not a very good one.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, well, but maybe there's an exception if you're doing
the UH, doing those investigations, and the title of these
movies is right off the edge of my tongue, and
I'm sure I'm getting blown up right now. But Annabelle
is the doll that is in them, and there's an
entire idea.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Does anyone know if I have no idea what Clay's
talking about with this series? What is the series he's
talking about? The conjuring, the conjuring. The conjuring movies I
think are the scariest because Buck to me, like I
understand the concept of hey, you're like a crazy clown
and you're walking like it was a scary movie recently
(44:58):
came out. Sure, that's spooky, but the way scarier parts
are where you have like the devil possession, like someone
engaging in some sort of behavior like that really gets me.
I mean, our friend Sean Ryan on his podcast long
form podcast was doing great, so many people listening. He
(45:18):
had on a guy who a Catholic priest who does exorcisms.
Recently I saw that and talked about his everyday Carrie,
which included a piece of the True Cross. Very interesting stuff.
I would say The Exorcist is still the scariest movie
that I've ever seen, although there's a director who's pretty
in vogue these days. Who did that? Who did The Northman?
(45:39):
He also did a movie, The Witch. That was the
last horror movie that I have seen. I think it
was twenty eighteen maybe, and I'm like, I decided I'm done.
I actually I actually won't sit through a horror movie
now I won't. You know, I'm out. I'm out.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
My wife won't do horror movies. I love like the
Scream movie. Those are really fun. I've watched them with
my boys.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Those are really those are really more like murder mystery movies,
those screen movies. They're not really horror. It's not like
monsters or you know, possessed people. It's just like lunatics. Yeah,
a lunatic killer. By the way, the two guys two people,
ed Edward Warren and his wife Lorraine Morgan, are the
characters that are played and in the Conjuring movies, and
(46:23):
it's basically demonic possession, the stories of them trying to
go out and solve all of these paranormal activity, demonic possessions,
and so they started in twenty thirteen. I was on
a plane flight buck I think it was like cross
country or may have been. I was going to England
or something, and it's rare that I have just tons
of time, and I watched three straight conjuring movies on
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an airplane, which I would think is probably one of
the least threatening places you could be because everybody's been screened.
You know, like there's there's no like the real danger
by and large on an airplane, as the plane could
go down, but not that crazy things are gonna happen
on the airplane. I did used to watch in the eighties.
I think they're horror, but in the horror thriller genre.
Do you remember a movie called Critters. Oh, there were
(47:06):
guys from space and they have like laser guns and
the little monsters that eat people like they used to
make these, used to make these crazy movies like in
Red the little spines they would shoot at people. I
can't believe they used to watch this crapt It was
on like Channel eleven in New York City, and I
would watch these bizarre movies like that. And I saw
on HBO The Hills Have Eyes. I do not recommend that.
(47:28):
That was traumatizing. I would I would never watch that again.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
You know what used to get me back when I
was a kid, Buck Unsolved Mysteries When The Unsolved Mysteries
music came on, if you were a kid at home
by yourself, that was I think the creepiest show that
you could watch on like NBC or whatever. It was
regular television by far the scariest one out there, beyond
(47:52):
a shadow of a doubt. But I bet a lot
I can. My mentions have exploded A lot of you
are agreeing with me on the conjuring series of movie.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Where are you on vampires and Dracula stuff? I still
a pull that that for timelessness and entertainment value. Bram
Stoker's Dracula is actually one of I think it's one
of the greatest novels of all time, which I know
people flip out about, but I'm like, no, it's it's amazing.
It's incredibly well written, and it created the whole vampire genre.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, and Francis Ford Coppola's version of Dracula is actually
incredibly well done.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
That was Keanu Reeves, right, isn't it? In that Gary? No,
that wash you're talking about, the one with the British
guy Gary Oldman, Yeah, Garylden like that nineties.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, I thought Keanu Reeves was the young guy who
was like coming up to that, like playing that. Yeah,
that's that one is really well done. I like, But
I like my vampires, as my friend Mike Lee rest
in Peace used to say, not the MOPI vampires, like
the evil actually scary vampires, not like the romantic team,
(48:54):
you know, vampires which have taken over.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
This is also where I gotta say I got throwing
a word from a man Wesley Snipes in Blade, which
I always talk about because underrated fand
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