November 3, 2024 • 49 mins
Don Jr. on the MSG rally. Rep. Jim Banks, Indiana Senate candidate. Eric Hovde, WI Senate candidate. Newspapers not endorsing.
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Don Junior is with us now. He was at the incredible,
the electric, the historic and very happy and fun. I
might add an America Great Making rally at Madison Squared Garden. Don.
Great to have you back on the show. Clay and
I couldn't make it. But how was it? Tell everybody listening.
(00:45):
We probably have some New York wr listeners who were there,
but for everyone around the rest of the country, tell
us about this rally, what it meant to you and
what it felt like to actually be right there in
the mix.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It was incredible, guys, It was truly amazing. Grove with
my father down to the raillway from Trump Power to
MSG you know whatever. It is twenty five blocks of
New York City just lined with MAGA hats. You sell
out Madison Square Garden and I think they head over
seventy five thousand people overflow, crowd hanging out outside, so
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just amazing. It just shows you the sign of the times.
I don't think I've been doing this for a while now,
and my third time around, I could have never even
imagined this in sixteen or in twenty. It's just a
very different world out there. People get it, they understand
what's happening, and they're sick of it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So what is the significance here as we come down
the home stretch. I know you spoke your dad. I
thought was fantastic. I watched it elon. I mean, there
were a lot of great, great speakers, but I believe
there are going to be rallies. Unless I'm wrong, you
can correct me. New Mexico, Minnesota, Virginia, and New Hampshire
down the stretch. Those are states that aren't even considered battlegrounds.
(01:56):
How good do you expect to do on early voting
and election day? And what did those places tell us
about what your dad seeing on the map?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I mean, the early voting numbers have been incredible, but
what's best about them is that it's not even our
high propensity voters. Those guys still haven't voted yet. You
know they are the people that are going to vote
on election day or you know, in the days prior.
It's the guys that are the lowest propensity voters or
the mid propensity voters that have been out there you know,
basically you know, putting their ballots in there. So it's
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not like we just finished early. The numbers are all
indicative of like we're still going to have a really
strong election day. And so when you're looking at these
places where we're you know, going into election day or
when early voting is starting to end in some of
these states and Republicans have a lead in the early vote,
but it's not even our reliable voters that just feels
really good. I mean, people just have to get out there.
They have to bring their friends, you know, as I
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said last night, basically you got to get out there
and vote like you're the third monkey in line for
the arc and it's starting to rain. Once you do that,
you know, bring all of your friends. It's so critical
for the future freakly of Western civilization, not even in
our country, just Western civilization the entire world. You know,
that we win this. The other side has made it
very clear what they stand for, what they believed and
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it's none of the things that America has stood for historically.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know, don you're a New York City guy born
and raised, so's your dad, and to go back to hometown.
I mean, there's there's something I don't know, if it's
synchronicity or just the full circle nature of coming back
here right before the election that I thought was particularly powerful.
But I have to say this stuff about oh, Donald
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Trump is in Madison Square Garden. I mean, you know,
wasn't probably I don't know, Beyonce or Taylor Swift there
a few months ago, or you know. I mean, it's
like people are in Madison Square Garden all the time.
I don't understand. But this this narrative, which is overwhelming,
that it's a Nazi rally, and that your dad, the
former president, who did a phenomenal job for four years
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and would do a phenomenal job maybe even more so
for the next four years, is in any way connected
to fascism or Nazis. I'm like, what do you just honestly,
are they just mentally ill? Are they lying?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
How do you process that?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well? I mean, I think they're both mentally ill and lying,
and they have nothing else you know that that's the reality.
You saw what they tried doing with the Atlantic this week,
and they're just creating lies because they have nothing to
campaign on it. It's not like they have successes. They
have no success economically, they have no success. Geopolitically. They
fail time and time again. If Kamala Harris was going
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to change something, you know, you would have thought she
would have maybe started in the last four years where
she's been the vice president of the most absentee president
in the history of our country. They have nothing else,
so they're going to try to latch onto these insane things.
I mean, I'm seeing you know, you know, Israel flags
all over the arena. I'm seeing people of all walks
of life, people of all races. I mean, if last
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night was a Nazi rally, it was literally the worst
Nazi rally in the history of Nazi rallies. It's so ridiculous,
you know, and frankly it's insulting. You know, they try
watching on TV today, they're trying to compare it. You know,
you know, who else wants drank a glass of water
like Trump? Drink last night like Hitler? I mean, look,
it's the same. I mean, you know, Hitler also breathes air.
They must be the same. It's a desperate attempt to
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do anything. I'm watching the full weight and force of
the mainstream media go all in on this narrative again
because they have nothing else. It's not like they can
talk about how great Kamala Harris is every time they
put her out there. It's a major fail. It's a disaster.
I mean, our campaign would pay a lot of money.
Just keep putting her on the air, give her a mic,
let her speak. The American people hear it every time,
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and they realize that this is not only an incompetent person,
this is not someone who you want picking up the
phone at three o'clock in the morning when something serious
is happening around the world.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
We're talking to Donald Trump Junior. I know you're a
big sports fan like I am. I think you have
seen both of those. I know you saw at least one.
Texas Tech has a kicker, makes a kick and immediately
lifts his shirt to show that MAGA is written underneath
his uniform on the T shirt that he's wearing. Last night,
Huge game for the for the audience anyway. Dallas Cowboys
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against San Francisco forty nine Ers. Nick Bosa in the
postgame interview, star defensive lineman for the forty nine ers
playing for a San Francisco team, has his MAGA hat on.
It feels to me like lots of athletes in particular,
but I think it's just directly connected to men are
just over it and they're not going to be silenced anymore.
(06:32):
Do you feel that because I can tell you you
know this privately, A lot of people in sports have
come up to me for a long time and said, hey,
you're one hundred percent right. Trump's the guy. You experienced
that too. But it feels like a lot of dudes
out there are just like, I'm over pretending that I'm
not for Trump, and it's becoming more explicit in their endorsement.
Are you feeling that seeing it too?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
One hundred percent? I mean, you know, it's not even like, yeah,
there's not even the social consequence anymore. Like guys are
happy to be open about it. They're they're okay there
it's and it's not just happening in sports. I'm seeing it,
you know, on college campuses. I'm seeing it all over
the place. You know, demographics that it would have never otherwise,
you know, it would have never been a socially acceptable
to support Trump, even if you were a Trump supporter.
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They're just doing it out in the open right now.
You know, supporting Trump, you know, it's counterculture. It's now,
it's cool. You're you're you're a badass if you're actually
doing these things. You know, these guys are stars. They
don't care anymore because they understand what's at stake. So again,
it's not just the athletes. I think that's been going
on for quite some time. But you know that they're
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willing to get vocal that college kids, young demographics. I
think some of our biggest gains have been frankly with
gen Z people. I was, you know, college parties at ASU,
fifteen hundred kids show up with a Mada hat on.
It's just an entirely different world. It's amazing to see it.
It's very palpable. It's not just a select few, it's
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all over the place. So it's really special to see
this going on right now. Now.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I don't want to count any chickens before they hatch.
We're speaking of Don Junior. Everybody Donald Trump Junior. But
let's assume for a second that the right decisions made here,
your dad gets four more years.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Can you just take us a little bit into the
selection of personnel this time around and the team he's
going to build around him? And this is one area
came up in the Rogan podcast. You know, your dad said,
I had some great picks, I had some not so
great picks. I had to fire some people, I had
to bring some new people on. This time around, people say,
you know, personnel is policy, right, I mean, this time around,
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what is that team formation going to look like? And
how do you think your dad's focus is going to
shift or hone in on building the best team of
top level people around him for the second term.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Well?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, I mean listen, last time around, it was I
think it was. You know, he the first night he
had ever spent in Washington, DC was when he moved
into the White House. So you had no knowledge, you
had no institutional base, you had none of that. You know,
this time around, that's very different. You know who the
guys are that are the guys that will deliver for
the president. The guys that don't just think they know better.
You know that there's some sort of unelected official that's
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going to decide what they duly elected president of the
United States is thinking and you know decide, you know what,
we don't agree with that, so we're just gonna do
it our way. It's just so different. So I think
from a personnel standpoint, Uh, you know those things that's gone.
You know, I'm glad he said that because I agree
with what he said on Rogan. You know that that
was one of the mistakes last time. But you wouldn't
have known, right you had the place. You know, thousands
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of people in jobs you assume because they have an
rn nex to your name, they're going to be on
your team. They're not this time around. That's not gonna happen.
But also this time around you have something totally unique,
right you have Uh, you know a guy like an Elon, Hey,
I want to work on government efficiency. I mean, a
guy that's like the Einstein.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Is he wait? Can I don I gotta Is he
really gonna if we get Trump in? Is Elon really
going to do this government efficiency thing? I mean is
that it sounds amazing?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I'm like the hunter then, I mean, I like, who
wouldn't want that? My father certainly wants that. Elon's offered
to do it. You have that. You have a guy
like an RSK, let him handle the health thing. We
may not agree with him on everything, but like in health,
you know, whether it's the FDA, whether it's AHS, you know,
all of these things, Like we can expose so much
of that corruption. I mean, this is a true unified party,
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people from all walks of life, people from different political
alliances that do have really great skill sets on so much.
You know, I want to unleash all of that. So
you know, we we can. We traded Liz and Dick
Cheney for Elon Musk, jd Vance, Tulsea Gambert, RSK Junior.
I mean, these guys can really change the world for
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the better. So I think it's just an incredible opportunity. Frankly,
I think it's a once in a lifetime opportunity opportunity
politically to really bring in people who can effectuate real
change and who have the skill set to actually do it,
and with a guy like my father who's going to
empower them to do those things.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
A couple of good questions here to finish with you,
we're talking to Don Junior. Appreciate him taking the time
after speaking at Madison Square Garden. Where are you going
to be on election night. And if I gave you
right now a magic wand and you can say, I
can see I get to see one state's returned. What
state would that be? Would it be Pennsylvania?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
What?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
What to you?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I know there's a lot of lynch pinned states out there,
but what would you want to be able to see
right now, eight days out if you could.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I mean, I've been Pennsylvania right now. That's where I'm
doing like six events here today. So you know, obviously
that's you know, not just the keystone state and name
I think it's a keystone state in this election. I
think that's so fundamentally critical. But you know, the reality
is why I look at some of these early vote numbers.
I mean, you know, the stuff I'm seeing out of Arizona,
the stuff I'm seeing out of Nevada, the stuff I'm
saying George, I mean, all of these swing states. I mean,
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it just looks really good.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I can't account for the nonsense. I can't account for
the games, the cheating, this, that and the other. I mean,
you know, I will say to win by one, we
got to win by five. You know, that's the reality,
and that's how the Democrats play, you know, and they're desperate,
so I'm sure they'll be playing extra hard this time around.
But I think, you know, if I had to pick
one state, obviously, I think Pennsylvania's prialy that state.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And then are you going to be at mar A Lago?
What's the plan on election night? I can't even imagine
you will be your third different election night. I know,
the stress, the chaos, the craziness. What's your plan for
that night?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, I imagine I'll be on the road until the
very last second, until the last pole's closed, and then
I'll know somehow figure out how to get down to
mar A Lago. But you know, we're we're leaving nothing
on the field. We're going to be out there, you know, entirely,
you know, until the last second. We're all in. We're
gonna get this thing done. And yeah, I'll end up
there that night to be with my family. But right now,
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it's just divide and conger. We're split up. We're all
over the place. You know, we don't do the Hey,
I want to be red my debt so I could
be in the selfie for you know, some picture later on.
You know, we're splitting up and just you know, covering
everything as as a.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Did do you guys make Baron ben down in family photos?
Now I'm just wondering, like he's like, Kareem abdul Jabbarhi.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, yeah, it's interesting. I'm like
the run of I'm six one one ninety five and
I'm like the runt in my family. It's it's kind
of embarrassing. Ah, No, it's all good. We're looking forward
to just being together for it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Just one more time. You're in Pennsylvania right now. Your
dad is going to be at the huge Ohio State
penn State game, which, if you're a Big Ten football fan,
may be the biggest game of the year. I'm sorry
Michigan Wolverine fans, because you guys are not very good
this year. I think it's the biggest game in the
Big Ten this year. That should be an incredible atmosphere,
I would think. I know, he was just at the
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Steeler game, but Saturday in Happy Valley, in the biggest
battleground state out there for the biggest game of the year,
that should be electric.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I think it's gonna be awesome. And again you see it,
I mean you see it at at the Steelers game
this last weekend. You know, of course, you know the
major corporate media will try to cover it up. But
you know, the stadium in Pittsburgh, you know, this is
not exactly what we call the heart of you know, uh,
you know red part of Pennsylvania. I mean, this was
a very Democrat town and an entire stadium just going
nuts for Trump being there. You know, there's something going on,
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There's something in the air. You feel it, you see it.
Everyone knows it. You know, whatever games they're going to
try to play it. You know, I think a big
tenant of the Democrat and their games is that, you know,
people have to still believe that it's real when they're
pulling off these things. I think that was a big
point of how why they switched out Joe Biden for
Kamala Harris. They thought that maybe it'd be more believable
until they gave her the mic and realized probably actually
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not the case. So I think that's gonna be an
awesome game, and I think it's going to be really
cool to see just the crowd response. And again that's
gonna be a young college crowd in a college town. Again,
not exactly a conservative place, and I think you're going
to see them go absolutely wild. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I'll be there too. I think that's one hundred percent
day McCormick. We need to get him over the finish
line too. We appreciate the time. Great job yesterday at
the rally, and good luck over the next eight days.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Thanks a lot, guys, good talking to you.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Join now by the next Senator from the Great State
of India, Jim Banks. We actually, if I remember correctly,
last time we would have seen him would have been
at the RNC up in Milwaukee, which feels like a
very long time ago, at his birthday party there. I
believe he is in Evansville, Indiana right now, and I
think that he's got great taste in radio regularly listens
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to us.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Hangs out.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Clay and Buck both excited to have you. Congressman. What
are you seeing on the ground in Indiana And are
you more optimistic about a Trump victory or the Indiana
Hoosiers football team.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Either one. What a great year this is going to
end up being. When we get Donald Trump back in
the White House and the Indiana Hoosiers win the national
championship in football is something that has never happened in
my lifetime. Eight and oh, the Indiana Hoosiers unbelievable. But
I think the win next Tuesday is going to be
unbelievable too. I feel it everywhere that I go. I'm
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in Evansville. I just met with Republicans in Vanderberg County,
which is the opposite corner of the state from where
I come from and where I report in Congress. And
the early voting in Evansville, just like all over the
state for Republicans, is record breaking. You're seeing that all
over the country. But Republicans have figured out that our
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our key to victory is to go out and vote early,
beat the Democrats at their own game, and we're doing
that in a big way, not just in Indiana but
around the country. And I'm very optimistic about.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Next Tuesday, Congress and Banks. I'm just wondering, how is
your opponent even trying to get within striking distance of you.
I mean, we're we're very confident that you're gonna You're
gonna pull this one out, and I think you are too.
But I'm just wondering, are we seeing the oh, I'm
a Democrat, but I actually would work with Donald Trump
or something like how is that going in a state
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that's as solid in its politics as Indiana's.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, you're not seeing that here. My opponent is missing
an action. The only thing that she does is she
tweets at me on every day about abortion, and and
she's got the radical abortion all the way up to
the moment that a baby takes his or her first
breath position. And because I'm a pro life Republican will
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ever shy away from that issue. She's been attacking me
on that, but on Twitter, we don't hear from her.
Almost anywhere else, Indiana is as Republican as it's ever
been in my lifetime. And I think this is the
national story that Donald Trump has made working class union
Democrat voters who come from who work in the steel
mills in Gary, Indiana, or the factory floors of Fort Wayne,
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those voters who voted Democrat all their life are now
Trump Republicans. And that's made Indiana more Republican than it's
ever been in my lifetime. So I'm not taking anything
for granted. I'm zig zagging the state and making my
case that Indiana deserves a conservative fighter in the United
States Senate, and that's what I'm going to be for
my state. But this state is as Republican has ever
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been before, and you're seeing those working class voters in
places like Pennsylvania. This is why I'm optimistic about the election.
Those union, working class, blue collar voters in Pennsylvania aren't
voting for Kamala Harris. They're voting for Donald Trump because
he represents their working class values. The Republicans represent their
working class values more than ever before, and I think
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that's why we went big.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I think that's important because there is some overlap, whether
it's Indiana, Ohio, with Pennsylvania, with Michigan and with Wisconsin voters.
How do you see that ultimately playing out? Do you
think that they're going to as Buck and I have said,
ultimately regret moving on from Joe Biden because he did
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connect with those working class voters Scranton, Joe, while you
and I and Buck may think it was a put on. Basically,
he was wearing a costume seemed to work. Meanwhile, those
guys are not responding very well to Kamala.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, I think most blue collar voters saw through Joe
Biden least Scranton, Joe talk to them. Kamala Harris doesn't
talk to blue collar, working class voters because today's Democrat
Party doesn't represent those voters. And they know it. I mean,
I see it in my state. I've been on the road.
By the way, JD. Vance was absolutely the best pick
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that Donald Trump could have ever made for this reason,
these Midwest blue collar states. I've been on the road
with him in Pennsylvania and watching him campaign and talk
to these voters, specifically the Trump voter. My dad is
a retired union factory worker. He voted Democrat all of
his life until Trump game came down the escalator, and
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he's been for Donald. He's a Trump voter that voted
Democrat before. And JD. Vance is talking to voters like
that in a very effective way and bringing them to
our side. And I really think this is the secret recipe.
But also keep in mind that at twenty sixteen and
in twenty twenty, Donald Trump brought out voters that he
didn't vote in twenty eighteen or twenty twenty two. I mean,
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that's just the fact of the matter. They're going to
come out and vote in a bigger way than ever
before at twenty twenty four, because they know what's his stake.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Talking to Congress from Jim Banks of Indiana, and how
are you viewing this early voting reality that Republicans are
seeing And is it something that you think is indicative
of a real change in strategy for the GOP that's
going to be particularly affected this time around, And what's
your view of it?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, look, take Nevada
for example, a forty thousand vote margin over five percent
margin over Democrats and early voting. I mean that's the story.
I mean four years ago, if any mistake was made,
it was to discourage early voting and absentee voting. This time,
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President Trump Republicans all over the country at telling I
just met with a large group of republic voters in Evansville.
In the end, it's on to go vote today, go
vote early, and take somebody with you. That advantage that
we're going to have in early voting is going to
make a big difference. So this is a this is
a part of the overall strategy. It's really important, and
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you're seeing it in the swing states. You know, Nevada
is a state that Republicans have to win. I think
we are going to win it. I think we're going
to win it by a fair amount. But you see
these early voting Republican margins and advantage over Democrats and
states like that, it gives me a lot of optimism.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You are going to be in the Senate. You've got
open seats in Michigan, in West Virginia, you got challenge
seats in Ohio, Montana, in Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin with incumbents Arizona, Nevada.
As you just mentioned, how optimistic are you based on
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what you're seeing not only about the presidential race, but
about Republicans taking back control of the Senate.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Well, guys, I just look at these these polls, and
you know, two or three months ago, Uh, Eric Covedy
in Wisconsin. Uh, it wasn't. It wasn't a race that
was on everybody's radar. Today is tied the same thing
McCormick and Pennsylvania's tied. Mike Rodgers in Michigan is in
the margin of air. Uh. And that that these polls,
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they all again get back to this point. The Trump
brings out voters should don't vote otherwise these races are
going to be really close. But the Trump the Trump
voters going to come out in a way and carry
these candidates over the top if we keep doing what
we're doing. We've got a week week to go. We
can't take anything for granted that all of these races
are going to be close. From from the presidential race,
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the Senate races. We've got close races in Indiana for
a closer race, and uh, in our governor's race, I
think Mike Brown is gonna win by by by by
by by a fair amount. But we can't take any
of these races for granted. We've got to get out
and vote early and take people with us to do it.
So the high water mark for Republicans in our lifetime
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has been a fifty five seat majority, and that's not
out of reach. I mean in Montana, in Ohio, we
have two great opportunities that gives us to fifty two.
And then you get Hubby McCormick and Rogers. In these
Midwest seats, you get Dan Brown's my favorite candidate in
the country, is a real American hero in Nevada, Carry
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Lake in Arizona. Opportunity here to break the record and
have the biggest Republican majority of the Senate that we've
had in our lifetime.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No doubt, Congressman soon to be Senator. We appreciate you
coming on with us. Have a good last week of running,
and we look forward to seeing you in the Senate
in a few months.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Great to be with you. Have a good day.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay Travis att Box Sexton.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Battleground Wisconsin, my friends, among the most important states in
this election, and we're going to find out how it
goes in just a few days. A friend, Eric Hovedy,
joins us now. He's running against incumbent Swamp Democrat Tammy Baldwin,
and Eric, I could say, the good news is that
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you are within a point according to Real Clear Politics average,
and there are some pulsters that do have you up
a point. So it is as neck and neck as
a race can be at this point. What do you
We wanted to just bring you on because we feel
like this one we gotta win Wisconsin for Trump. We
gotta win Wisconsin for you in the Senate. What's it
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like in the final days, what are you seeing?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Look the energies on our side. Momentum is very important.
You know, think of how important momentum is in business
or sports. Well, in politics it's critical because you got
to stop that date and look. The momentum is definitely
in our direction. You've seen it in the polls, the
excitement on our side you're seeing and early voting. But
(25:01):
we just need to keep it going. I mean, every
one of your listeners that's listening today, they got to
not only make sure they get out and vote, but
they got to get their friends, their colleagues, their neighbors,
the people they hunt and fish with and watch packer
games with, and all the rest. I mean, we just
everybody's got to do their effort. President Trump and me
are the tips of the spears, but we can't do
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it without everybody's help.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So I feel.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Good, But I'm going to run all the way through
the finish line. I'm giving five six speeches a day.
I'm doing the Trump rally tonight, and you know what,
I'll just collapse after I get through Next Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I believe Brett Farv is going to be at the
Trump rally tonight if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, one of
the all time greats for Packer fans out there, what
kind of preview can you give us for what that
rally tonight in Wisconsin will be like.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Look, I think it's going to be rocking. I love
it that Brett Favre's coming up by me. He's my
all time favorite Packer player because I was a kid
suffering for the twenty years they stunk at Post Lobardi
until far came. So I think it's gonna bring a
lot of excitement. So yeah, I'm gonna be up speaking mates,
(26:15):
get up and speak with President Trump because every time
he comes, he always likes pulling me up on stage.
But I'll definitely be speaking beforehand. It'll be fun hanging
out with Brett Favre and then maybe after share a
couple beers together. By the way, guys, you all to
know how desperate the Democrats are. They're running in ad
saying I want to ban beer.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Wow, way that would be.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That would be a tough thing to do in Wisconsin.
I would thank you guys. Drink more beer than anybody.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah, and you know it's not like my refrigerator's
not stuffed with beer. So it's just priceless the crazy
stuff they'll do. But you know, look, she he is
so corrupt. Every single one of her li ads are
a lie. She's trying to claim I want to take
Social Security away. She's the one bankrupting it. I'm saying
we got to protect it. She's trying to attack me,
(27:06):
saying I want to take veterans benefits away. I'm after
her because she's allowed illegal immigrants, you know, cash payments
and putting them up in hotels when we've got veterans
living on the streets. She is just absolutely wrong on everything.
And the only thing she's perfected in Washington, DC is
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the art of line and that's about it.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
How is the ground game looking in Wisconsin for the
GOP side. I know you're very very much on the
front lines of that with your campaign, But are we
seeing some of the shift in approach from the previous
election comes to early voting? And also, we've got a
lot of people that are worried that there's going to
be Shenanigan's going on. Eric, what can you tell us
(27:52):
about election integrity measures in your state? I mean, I
know your judiciary. Unfortunately state judiciary, they may be on
the Shenanigans.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Oh look, I'm very concerned because they won't clean up
our voter roles. I mean, geez, I wish we had
a governor like what's going on in Virginia and you know,
like kempt it in Georgia. But you know, they purposely
leave people that you know that shouldn't be on the
voter rolls anymore. So, yeah, I'm concerned about it. Are
(28:24):
we in a better position today than in twenty Absolutely
we don't have we ban zucker Bucks. There's been some
election cases that have gone in our favor. But yeah,
you're always worried that the Shenanigans that they're going to
play because they'll do anything. They don't have any kind
of moral compass to them. At the same time, on
(28:47):
the ground game, I feel the ground games in a
much better position than it was back four years ago.
You know, there's everybody's heard about, you know, Elon Musk
organization that's doing stuff, but I think there's some other
groups out there also, So I think the ground games
in pretty good shape. To be honest with you, you.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Mentioned early voting. What is the law in Wisconsin on
early voting? We have a monster audience, as you well know,
all over the state of Wisconsin. What should people know
about early voting, and what are those early returns looking
like for you?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Well, right now early voting's looking better for Republicans worse
for Democrats than it was in sixteen and in twenty.
So the trend lines look good, but we need to
keep it up because here's the simple fact. You can't
just wait until election day because you don't know what's
going to happen. Maybe on election day you get in
a car accident, maybe your child gets sick, maybe something
(29:45):
crisis comes up at work, maybe you have to do
last second travel. So I encourage people to get out
and vote early, and then there's another benefit by doing that.
Then it allows us to talk get those people that
haven't gotten their vote, so we don't have to spend resources.
And then if you vote early, then on election day
(30:08):
you can go grab your friend or your colleague or
whatever and make sure you know, if you have real
elderly parents, get them out, get them out early. So
it's just it's such a ground game and everybody has
to play their part. And look, my success in President
Trump's success are all dependent on the people that are
(30:28):
listening to your shows, and everybody just has to step
up because we need change in this country. I mean,
what they've done in the last four years. This is
going to be the most consequential election. I mean, what
do President Trump and I want to do. He wants
to make America great again, which I'm fully I'm on board,
and I want to restore the American dream. What do
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Baldwin and Harris want to do? They want to change America.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
That's what they.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Told you four years ago, and man, they sure have
and it's not for the better.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Eric Cammy ball in the incumbent, very sly Democrat, But
I just want, for the purposes of truth and fairness,
tell us where on a major issue, because she's a maverick, Right,
That's what she's telling people Wisconsin. She'll go her own
way and she'll represent their interests. Right, that's what she says.
Where has she broken with Chuck Schumer, Like when Chuck
(31:18):
says do this, Tammy, where has she said, no, I'm
not going to go along with your left wing agenda.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Never. In fact, she's more left wing than Chuck Schumer.
She's just always masqueraded back in our state as a moderate,
except in the Madison area, where she's her full true
progressive left colors. I mean, she's always been voted one
of the top three most progressive left senators, and you know,
she's one of the ones that are really pushing this transgenderism.
(31:48):
She pushed that gave that Earmark, our tax Paara dollar
money to a Madison clinic that is transgendering kids, and
then they have been walking journal Sentine'll say, oh, that's
not true that clinic changed their website. They're stupid though,
because everybody had a snapshot of what their former website
that literally says it and says without parents notification. She's
(32:12):
the one pushing this whole thing of guys playing girls
sports and going into girls' bathrooms and locker rooms. She's
the one who voted for giving cash payments to legal
immigrants and putting them up in hotels. She's always been
way out on the left. She's just now being exposed.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We're talking to Eric Hovey, who should be the next
senator from the state of Wisconsin, since that Trump is
doing pretty well there. Because to build on what you
just said in the question, Buck just asked, Tammy Baldwin
now is running ads with Donald Trump in them? To
my understanding, saying, oh, I'll work across the aisle. That
must be a sign that Trump is looking pretty good.
(32:52):
What would you say to anybody out there that is
thinking about splitting their ballot? Aren't you just cutting Trump's
legs out from underneath him if you're not going Trump
Hubby straight down the ballot?
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Oh of course. Well, first of all, she called Donald
Trump one of the most dangerous men with a dark soul,
and had a lot of other negative things to say.
She's had very derogatory comments about Trump voters. And by
the way, if he doesn't have you know, think of
a football team. You can have the greatest quarterback, but
(33:24):
if you don't have an offensive line, you're going to
be running for your life. So, you know, President Trump
needs people in the Senate to get his agenda through
because otherwise what are the Democrats going to do. They're
immediately going to start trying to impeach them day one.
We know they're going to do that all They did
it twice last time. So you know, President Trump and
I have a great relationship. He laughs at you know,
(33:47):
Center Baldwin trying to take credit like he ever worked
with her. Give me a break. She's one of the
biggest people that was opposing everything that he stood for.
So yeah, I mean, if you're thinking of voting for
Tammy Baldwin and Donald Trump, then you know there was
about on the polar opposite as you possibly could get.
(34:08):
And all she wants to do is see President Trump
get impeached. So look, I I'd be honored to have
all your listeners votes. I need them President Trump and
I want to turn this country around. We've got to
save our country. We're blessed to live in America, the
greatest country that mankind's ever known, but if we don't
(34:28):
get it going in the right direction, we won't recognize
it anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Eric, where can people go to donate help get out
there in these last critical days.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Yeah, thanks guys to Eric E. R I C hub
the h o VD dot com if we're trying to
stay up on air to match her. So I really
appreciating all the donations. Put up signs, go out and vote,
and guys, it's always been great being on your show.
Thank you so much. Let's go, Let's go save our
wonderful country.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Let's go close us out for Hovedy, Wisconsin Heights. We
got so many of you, I mean, we are number
one in Milwaukee, So you know, just saying, so please
get out there, do what you can and get those
votes lined up for Trump, for Hovedy, for everyone else
down ballot on the Republican side. And let's bring this,
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
Fantastic data rolling in on early voting all over the country.
Get out and vote. Arizona, Nevada, and North Carolina Florida,
four states where they distinguish between Republican and Democrat voters,
and Republicans are showing up in big numbers all over
(35:59):
Keep the pro pure on. The game plan is working.
Trump is going to win in seven days if the
enthusiasm remains high, and if all of you get out
and do your civic duty and vote. Encourage you to
vote early if you can and see people still are
asking the question. I understand you're not able to listen
to every segment. We've been talking about it for a while.
(36:21):
What's the benefit of voting early. The benefit of voting
early is once they can check you off, they get
the roster of voters. Once they can check you off,
it allows them to focus on lower propensity voters. This
is what Democrats have done a great job of Why
banking votes matters because you have limited resources and if,
(36:45):
for instance, you're one of the millions of people that
have voted, and there are reports now that over fifty
million people have already voted, so we're talking about whatever
that's going to end up being around a third of
all votes have already voted. I think probably close to
half of you overall are going to vote early before
(37:06):
we even get to election day. But it allows other
money and resources to be spent on people that may
need it. Maybe somebody needs a ride to the polls.
Maybe somebody is not as plugged in as you are,
who are listening to this program right now and they
just haven't been focused on the race. But they're Trump
(37:27):
voters and they need to be reached out to. When
you bank your vote, then they are able to focus
on others put those resources elsewhere. So Buck voted early.
I voted early. You heard Bill O'Reilly with us earlier.
He voted early. And by the way, thanks to Ryan Gardeski,
who just joined us to talk about him being banned
from CNN. We're going to talk with Jim Banks, who's
(37:51):
going to be the next Senator from Indiana, at the
bottom of this hour. FYI just headed in your direction,
But Buck, I wanted to hit on a little bit.
We haven't talked about it a great deal, but the
Washington Post, the LA Times, and now USA Today have
all chosen not to endorse a presidential candidate. The fallout
(38:14):
at the Washington Post in particular has been pretty incredible,
and Jeff Bezos penned last night and editorial that I
believe is in today's Washington Post print edition. But ten
percent of the Washington Post's overall subscribers, around two hundred
and fifty thousand people have canceled their subscriptions to The
(38:38):
Washington Post because Jeff Bezos made the decision not to
endorse Kamala Harris. And but there were a couple of
lines that I thought were particularly interesting from that Bezos
piece that I was going to hit you with, and
just off the top, I agree with him. I think
the idea that you should be out there. Endorsing a
(39:01):
newspaper when you claim that you are unbiased and nonpartisan
is important. And this is how he started off. Nobody
trusts journalists basically anymore. And he said, we must be accurate.
We must be believed to be accurate. It's a bitter
pill to swallow, but we're failing on the second requirement.
(39:25):
Most people believe the media is biased, and those who
don't believe that aren't paying attention to reality. I read
his piece last night. I agreed with most of it.
Now I question where's he been for the last eleven years,
because he's one of the reasons the way the Washington
Post has been written and covered in writing democracy dies
in darkness at the top of the newspaper. His paper
(39:48):
has been emblematic of the collapse in trust. But maybe
better late than than than never. And I actually agree
with almost everything he wrote in the piece.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Well, there's there's a prom that these these legacy media
outlets have CNN among them, Washington Post, the New York Times,
which is the more that they embrace partisanship as their
primary goal, the less their news organizations. And if they're
not news organizations, why should they occupy this exalted space, Like,
(40:23):
what why should the New York Times be treated as
in any way more authoritative than say The Nation, which
is communist slop online, full on communist slop. I mean,
I've actually spent time reading Slate dot com the Nation,
so I know these sites same way that I watched
Morning Joe. I like to go. I like to go,
you know, maneuvering through the enemy camp when they're not
(40:45):
paying attention and Clay. The answer is, there's no reason
other than just kind of tradition. You know, heritage, Like
New York Times is really old. You know, the New
York Post is really old too, and I think the
New York Post is a much better paper. There's no
reason to give these places greater credibility in the public sphere,
which affects their brand, which affects their value, affects everything.
(41:07):
So I think bezos from the business side of things.
I'm as just gonna put it out there. You know,
a guy maybe maybe.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Maybe gets on a little trt, you know, I don't
know what else, maybe gets a little little of the
juices flowing there, puts on a little muscle. It's got
his bikini clad girlfriend run around everywhere and all of a.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Sudden, he's a little more. He's not right wing, but
he's no longer a full blown communist. You know, he's
moving in that direction. And I think, and by the way,
I would, I think in ten years Jeff Bezos will
be a Republican based on his current trajectory. I think
in ten years, I know it's a long ways out,
but I think as he gets older and wiser and
sees more and has more of this responsibility of being
(41:46):
one of the richest people on the planet on his shoulders,
he's going to be more right wing. Maybe he won't
be quite a Republican, he'll be independent, but Clay, he's
gonna keep moving in that direction.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I am an unabashed lover of newspapers. I if you
see me on an airplane flight, and it's a very
long flight at all, I get on an airplane bucks
sometimes with like six or seven newspapers. I love reading newspapers,
even newspapers that have articles where I just am like, oh,
(42:14):
you kidding me, this is the dumbest argument I've ever seen.
I still love consuming that information, reading it all. The
Washington Post used to be a really intelligent somewhat again,
we know it's left of center, maybe even substantially left
of center. But everybody in the DC area, whether you
(42:35):
were a Democrat or a Republican, used to read the
Washington Post every single day.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
It wasn't wasn't Crodhammer a columnist there. I mean, they've had,
they've had George Will. George I like.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
But he's like an old, like crotchety event. But yes,
I mean they had. He's probably voting Kamala this time around.
But yeah, sure, yeah, right, I get it that a
lot of these guys are I mean we I think
George Will, if you got I'm a Bezos routine, you
know what I'm saying. Maybe hell little peptides got to
the gym, I think he'd start changing his voting patterns
a little too. But my point on that is it's
(43:11):
undeniable that the Washington Posts overall brand has collapsed. And
this is my argument. And I see it because I
come from the world of sports. When I see two
hundred and fifty thousand people have canceled their subscriptions, these
are not people that want news. These are people that
want to be told your team is the best, We're
(43:34):
the saviors, We're the heroes, and I see it from sports, Buck,
because one of the most consistently good business models online
in sports has been fan message boards. And when you
are too negative about a team, everybody at bails on
it because they come to the fan message board. I'm
a member, I'm a University of Tennessee fan. I want
(43:55):
to go read good things about my team. I want
to hear, hey, they're doing great, coaches are amazing. Doesn't
mean that you're lying, but just means that the slant
of a team based publication is going to be in
favor of the team, and as soon as it turns
to negative, people bail. And to me, that's what the
Washington Post became. I mean again, I've made this analogy before, Bluck,
(44:18):
but when I was in college, they treated Bill Clinton
and the Monica Lewinsky scandal like it was a major
earth shattering issue and their reporting did not in any
way make Bill Clinton more powerful than he otherwise would
have been. They treated him on some level like they
(44:38):
did Nixon Watergate. Joe Biden has more corruption and hunter
Biden in his background than any president in the twenty
first century, for sure, and they pretended it didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I do think Matt Drudge broke the Monica story, which
is what launched the Drudge Report, and then the Washington
Post and others began to cover it. So you're talking
about this, but.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
On every day, every day they would have a new
story about Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton. They are it is
a big It is actually a big story, right, I mean,
that's the thing. But it was just funny that none
of the news organization the quote Beltway news organizations broke
the story. I believe it was Rudge. Have you been Rudge?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I mean, what happens? It said, I don't know. It
makes it's a bummer.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Page for a dash as the lead story like every
day now, I.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Don't have it. Everyone I talked to on the right,
all the old guard on the right too, I'm like,
what happened to Matt Rudge the guys who know him,
and everyone's like, I don't know. So that's I don't
have a good answer other than it's a shame. I
wish I wish it wasn't so, but okay, so so
on the uh, well, we have a Wappo clip here.
It's twenty one and it goes to exactly uh what
(45:50):
we're talking about here the two hundred thousand subscriber exitus.
Play that for a second.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
And the three days since I first wrote about the
decision by owner Jeff Bezos to block a play endorsement
of Vice president Kamala Harris by the Post's editorial board,
you've seen a series of resignation, to calmness, resigned to
editorial writers, resigned, and you've also seen this sort of
revulsion or outcry on social media.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Well, it turns out to be real that over two.
Speaker 7 (46:15):
Hundred thousand people has canceled subscriptions to The Washington Post
in just three days, and that figure is rising. I'm
told you know that reflects about eight percent of the Post.
Call it two point five million subscribers. If you can
bind digital and print subscriptions, and it's an astonishing react.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Oh oh, astonishing. Okay, First of all, two things that
I have for you. Play one. I don't think anyone
cares who newspaper endorses. I don't think it matters except
for the people who work there, because it's a signal
to them we are a partisan outfit. We are here
for one. It all at the editorial page goes in
for that candidate. It gives a lot more cover to
the rest of the newsroom to try to play the
(46:53):
game too. That's part one, Part two. I think of
you on here with you're trying to you're trying to
blackmail Jeff Bezos with money. That's what Jeff Bezos should say.
But he should go full to Elon and be like, oh,
I lost eight percent of my subscribers for what is
effectively a vanity side project owning the post. He doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
This is where he's inoculated from the media environment subscriber base. Now,
he may not want to lose one hundred million dollars
a year or whatever that Post is losing on an
annual basis, but one hundred million dollars a year is
like what Jeff Bezos spends on his yacht. I mean,
it isn't even it isn't even like a rounding error
to him, Like he doesn't even necessarily notice it. And
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this is where I actually give a lot of credit
to Bezos. And I haven't done that, but it is.
And I've been making this argument for a long time.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
It never has made sense to me that you claim
your newspaper is unbiased, nonpartisan, and then when an election
comes around, you tell how everybody you think, how how
you think everyone should vote. Now, if you want to
have a super smart guy make the case for Kamala,
and you want to have a super smart guy make
the case for Trump, and you want to put both
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of those on your editorial page. To me, that's what
the editorial page should be. Intelligent arguments from a variety
of perspectives. But the idea that making the decision not
to endorse was in some way an unforgivable sin is
to me an indictment of many of these people canceling
(48:27):
their subscriptions because they're not actually paying for news. They're
paying for their side to be declared the victor. And
I think, unfortunately for Jeff Bezos, he played into this
when he put democracy dies in Darkness on the top
of the Washington Post newspaper. I mean, if I were
running the Washington Post at the time, I would have
(48:48):
I would have pushed back against that. I think he's
created this worldview and now his reporters are upset because
their version of the place that they work has in
some way been challenged, and he's saying, hey, actually we
will to do real journalism, and they're revolting.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's I mean, well, their job is not journalism. I
mean this is they're actually proving by their actions and
even by the audience actions, they're proving the point that
Bezos is making, which is they're they're no law. It's
no longer a journalistic entity. It has lost its way. Fully,
I would say CNN the same thing. CNN was destroyed
(49:24):
by Jeff zucker because it just became a free for
all of Trump and republic, you know, anti Trump, anti Republican,
just bile and and it was gross. And then they
had people like Jake tapperl like, oh, I'm just here
with the facts, and Anderson Cooper, I'm just here with
the questions. Bull crap. We're not idiots, we know exactly
what you're doing. And it's gross. It's gross.
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Don Junior is with us now. He was at the incredible,
the electric, the historic and very happy and fun. I
might add an America Great Making rally at Madison Squared Garden. Don.
Great to have you back on the show. Clay and
I couldn't make it. But how was it? Tell everybody listening.
(00:45):
We probably have some New York wr listeners who were there,
but for everyone around the rest of the country, tell
us about this rally, what it meant to you and
what it felt like to actually be right there in
the mix.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It was incredible, guys, It was truly amazing. Grove with
my father down to the raillway from Trump Power to
MSG you know whatever. It is twenty five blocks of
New York City just lined with MAGA hats. You sell
out Madison Square Garden and I think they head over
seventy five thousand people overflow, crowd hanging out outside, so
(01:16):
just amazing. It just shows you the sign of the times.
I don't think I've been doing this for a while now,
and my third time around, I could have never even
imagined this in sixteen or in twenty. It's just a
very different world out there. People get it, they understand
what's happening, and they're sick of it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So what is the significance here as we come down
the home stretch. I know you spoke your dad. I
thought was fantastic. I watched it elon. I mean, there
were a lot of great, great speakers, but I believe
there are going to be rallies. Unless I'm wrong, you
can correct me. New Mexico, Minnesota, Virginia, and New Hampshire
down the stretch. Those are states that aren't even considered battlegrounds.
(01:56):
How good do you expect to do on early voting
and election day? And what did those places tell us
about what your dad seeing on the map?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I mean, the early voting numbers have been incredible, but
what's best about them is that it's not even our
high propensity voters. Those guys still haven't voted yet. You
know they are the people that are going to vote
on election day or you know, in the days prior.
It's the guys that are the lowest propensity voters or
the mid propensity voters that have been out there you know,
basically you know, putting their ballots in there. So it's
(02:26):
not like we just finished early. The numbers are all
indicative of like we're still going to have a really
strong election day. And so when you're looking at these
places where we're you know, going into election day or
when early voting is starting to end in some of
these states and Republicans have a lead in the early vote,
but it's not even our reliable voters that just feels
really good. I mean, people just have to get out there.
They have to bring their friends, you know, as I
(02:47):
said last night, basically you got to get out there
and vote like you're the third monkey in line for
the arc and it's starting to rain. Once you do that,
you know, bring all of your friends. It's so critical
for the future freakly of Western civilization, not even in
our country, just Western civilization the entire world. You know,
that we win this. The other side has made it
very clear what they stand for, what they believed and
(03:08):
it's none of the things that America has stood for historically.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know, don you're a New York City guy born
and raised, so's your dad, and to go back to hometown.
I mean, there's there's something I don't know, if it's
synchronicity or just the full circle nature of coming back
here right before the election that I thought was particularly powerful.
But I have to say this stuff about oh, Donald
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Trump is in Madison Square Garden. I mean, you know,
wasn't probably I don't know, Beyonce or Taylor Swift there
a few months ago, or you know. I mean, it's
like people are in Madison Square Garden all the time.
I don't understand. But this this narrative, which is overwhelming,
that it's a Nazi rally, and that your dad, the
former president, who did a phenomenal job for four years
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and would do a phenomenal job maybe even more so
for the next four years, is in any way connected
to fascism or Nazis. I'm like, what do you just honestly,
are they just mentally ill? Are they lying?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
How do you process that?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well? I mean, I think they're both mentally ill and lying,
and they have nothing else you know that that's the reality.
You saw what they tried doing with the Atlantic this week,
and they're just creating lies because they have nothing to
campaign on it. It's not like they have successes. They
have no success economically, they have no success. Geopolitically. They
fail time and time again. If Kamala Harris was going
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to change something, you know, you would have thought she
would have maybe started in the last four years where
she's been the vice president of the most absentee president
in the history of our country. They have nothing else,
so they're going to try to latch onto these insane things.
I mean, I'm seeing you know, you know, Israel flags
all over the arena. I'm seeing people of all walks
of life, people of all races. I mean, if last
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night was a Nazi rally, it was literally the worst
Nazi rally in the history of Nazi rallies. It's so ridiculous,
you know, and frankly it's insulting. You know, they try
watching on TV today, they're trying to compare it. You know,
you know, who else wants drank a glass of water
like Trump? Drink last night like Hitler? I mean, look,
it's the same. I mean, you know, Hitler also breathes air.
They must be the same. It's a desperate attempt to
(05:15):
do anything. I'm watching the full weight and force of
the mainstream media go all in on this narrative again
because they have nothing else. It's not like they can
talk about how great Kamala Harris is every time they
put her out there. It's a major fail. It's a disaster.
I mean, our campaign would pay a lot of money.
Just keep putting her on the air, give her a mic,
let her speak. The American people hear it every time,
(05:35):
and they realize that this is not only an incompetent person,
this is not someone who you want picking up the
phone at three o'clock in the morning when something serious
is happening around the world.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
We're talking to Donald Trump Junior. I know you're a
big sports fan like I am. I think you have
seen both of those. I know you saw at least one.
Texas Tech has a kicker, makes a kick and immediately
lifts his shirt to show that MAGA is written underneath
his uniform on the T shirt that he's wearing. Last night,
Huge game for the for the audience anyway. Dallas Cowboys
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against San Francisco forty nine Ers. Nick Bosa in the
postgame interview, star defensive lineman for the forty nine ers
playing for a San Francisco team, has his MAGA hat on.
It feels to me like lots of athletes in particular,
but I think it's just directly connected to men are
just over it and they're not going to be silenced anymore.
(06:32):
Do you feel that because I can tell you you
know this privately, A lot of people in sports have
come up to me for a long time and said, hey,
you're one hundred percent right. Trump's the guy. You experienced
that too. But it feels like a lot of dudes
out there are just like, I'm over pretending that I'm
not for Trump, and it's becoming more explicit in their endorsement.
Are you feeling that seeing it too?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
One hundred percent? I mean, you know, it's not even like, yeah,
there's not even the social consequence anymore. Like guys are
happy to be open about it. They're they're okay there
it's and it's not just happening in sports. I'm seeing it,
you know, on college campuses. I'm seeing it all over
the place. You know, demographics that it would have never otherwise,
you know, it would have never been a socially acceptable
to support Trump, even if you were a Trump supporter.
(07:16):
They're just doing it out in the open right now.
You know, supporting Trump, you know, it's counterculture. It's now,
it's cool. You're you're you're a badass if you're actually
doing these things. You know, these guys are stars. They
don't care anymore because they understand what's at stake. So again,
it's not just the athletes. I think that's been going
on for quite some time. But you know that they're
(07:37):
willing to get vocal that college kids, young demographics. I
think some of our biggest gains have been frankly with
gen Z people. I was, you know, college parties at ASU,
fifteen hundred kids show up with a Mada hat on.
It's just an entirely different world. It's amazing to see it.
It's very palpable. It's not just a select few, it's
(08:00):
all over the place. So it's really special to see
this going on right now. Now.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I don't want to count any chickens before they hatch.
We're speaking of Don Junior. Everybody Donald Trump Junior. But
let's assume for a second that the right decisions made here,
your dad gets four more years.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Can you just take us a little bit into the
selection of personnel this time around and the team he's
going to build around him? And this is one area
came up in the Rogan podcast. You know, your dad said,
I had some great picks, I had some not so
great picks. I had to fire some people, I had
to bring some new people on. This time around, people say,
you know, personnel is policy, right, I mean, this time around,
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what is that team formation going to look like? And
how do you think your dad's focus is going to
shift or hone in on building the best team of
top level people around him for the second term.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Well?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, I mean listen, last time around, it was I
think it was. You know, he the first night he
had ever spent in Washington, DC was when he moved
into the White House. So you had no knowledge, you
had no institutional base, you had none of that. You know,
this time around, that's very different. You know who the
guys are that are the guys that will deliver for
the president. The guys that don't just think they know better.
You know that there's some sort of unelected official that's
(09:11):
going to decide what they duly elected president of the
United States is thinking and you know decide, you know what,
we don't agree with that, so we're just gonna do
it our way. It's just so different. So I think
from a personnel standpoint, Uh, you know those things that's gone.
You know, I'm glad he said that because I agree
with what he said on Rogan. You know that that
was one of the mistakes last time. But you wouldn't
have known, right you had the place. You know, thousands
(09:31):
of people in jobs you assume because they have an
rn nex to your name, they're going to be on
your team. They're not this time around. That's not gonna happen.
But also this time around you have something totally unique,
right you have Uh, you know a guy like an Elon, Hey,
I want to work on government efficiency. I mean, a
guy that's like the Einstein.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Is he wait? Can I don I gotta Is he
really gonna if we get Trump in? Is Elon really
going to do this government efficiency thing? I mean is
that it sounds amazing?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I'm like the hunter then, I mean, I like, who
wouldn't want that? My father certainly wants that. Elon's offered
to do it. You have that. You have a guy
like an RSK, let him handle the health thing. We
may not agree with him on everything, but like in health,
you know, whether it's the FDA, whether it's AHS, you know,
all of these things, Like we can expose so much
of that corruption. I mean, this is a true unified party,
(10:19):
people from all walks of life, people from different political
alliances that do have really great skill sets on so much.
You know, I want to unleash all of that. So
you know, we we can. We traded Liz and Dick
Cheney for Elon Musk, jd Vance, Tulsea Gambert, RSK Junior.
I mean, these guys can really change the world for
(10:39):
the better. So I think it's just an incredible opportunity. Frankly,
I think it's a once in a lifetime opportunity opportunity
politically to really bring in people who can effectuate real
change and who have the skill set to actually do it,
and with a guy like my father who's going to
empower them to do those things.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
A couple of good questions here to finish with you,
we're talking to Don Junior. Appreciate him taking the time
after speaking at Madison Square Garden. Where are you going
to be on election night. And if I gave you
right now a magic wand and you can say, I
can see I get to see one state's returned. What
state would that be? Would it be Pennsylvania?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
What?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
What to you?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I know there's a lot of lynch pinned states out there,
but what would you want to be able to see
right now, eight days out if you could.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I mean, I've been Pennsylvania right now. That's where I'm
doing like six events here today. So you know, obviously
that's you know, not just the keystone state and name
I think it's a keystone state in this election. I
think that's so fundamentally critical. But you know, the reality
is why I look at some of these early vote numbers.
I mean, you know, the stuff I'm seeing out of Arizona,
the stuff I'm seeing out of Nevada, the stuff I'm
saying George, I mean, all of these swing states. I mean,
(11:47):
it just looks really good.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I can't account for the nonsense. I can't account for
the games, the cheating, this, that and the other. I mean,
you know, I will say to win by one, we
got to win by five. You know, that's the reality,
and that's how the Democrats play, you know, and they're desperate,
so I'm sure they'll be playing extra hard this time around.
But I think, you know, if I had to pick
one state, obviously, I think Pennsylvania's prialy that state.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And then are you going to be at mar A Lago?
What's the plan on election night? I can't even imagine
you will be your third different election night. I know,
the stress, the chaos, the craziness. What's your plan for
that night?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, I imagine I'll be on the road until the
very last second, until the last pole's closed, and then
I'll know somehow figure out how to get down to
mar A Lago. But you know, we're we're leaving nothing
on the field. We're going to be out there, you know, entirely,
you know, until the last second. We're all in. We're
gonna get this thing done. And yeah, I'll end up
there that night to be with my family. But right now,
(12:37):
it's just divide and conger. We're split up. We're all
over the place. You know, we don't do the Hey,
I want to be red my debt so I could
be in the selfie for you know, some picture later on.
You know, we're splitting up and just you know, covering
everything as as a.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Did do you guys make Baron ben down in family photos?
Now I'm just wondering, like he's like, Kareem abdul Jabbarhi.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, yeah, it's interesting. I'm like
the run of I'm six one one ninety five and
I'm like the runt in my family. It's it's kind
of embarrassing. Ah, No, it's all good. We're looking forward
to just being together for it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Just one more time. You're in Pennsylvania right now. Your
dad is going to be at the huge Ohio State
penn State game, which, if you're a Big Ten football fan,
may be the biggest game of the year. I'm sorry
Michigan Wolverine fans, because you guys are not very good
this year. I think it's the biggest game in the
Big Ten this year. That should be an incredible atmosphere,
I would think. I know, he was just at the
(13:30):
Steeler game, but Saturday in Happy Valley, in the biggest
battleground state out there for the biggest game of the year,
that should be electric.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I think it's gonna be awesome. And again you see it,
I mean you see it at at the Steelers game
this last weekend. You know, of course, you know the
major corporate media will try to cover it up. But
you know, the stadium in Pittsburgh, you know, this is
not exactly what we call the heart of you know, uh,
you know red part of Pennsylvania. I mean, this was
a very Democrat town and an entire stadium just going
nuts for Trump being there. You know, there's something going on,
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There's something in the air. You feel it, you see it.
Everyone knows it. You know, whatever games they're going to
try to play it. You know, I think a big
tenant of the Democrat and their games is that, you know,
people have to still believe that it's real when they're
pulling off these things. I think that was a big
point of how why they switched out Joe Biden for
Kamala Harris. They thought that maybe it'd be more believable
until they gave her the mic and realized probably actually
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not the case. So I think that's gonna be an
awesome game, and I think it's going to be really
cool to see just the crowd response. And again that's
gonna be a young college crowd in a college town. Again,
not exactly a conservative place, and I think you're going
to see them go absolutely wild. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I'll be there too. I think that's one hundred percent
day McCormick. We need to get him over the finish
line too. We appreciate the time. Great job yesterday at
the rally, and good luck over the next eight days.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Thanks a lot, guys, good talking to you.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Join now by the next Senator from the Great State
of India, Jim Banks. We actually, if I remember correctly,
last time we would have seen him would have been
at the RNC up in Milwaukee, which feels like a
very long time ago, at his birthday party there. I
believe he is in Evansville, Indiana right now, and I
think that he's got great taste in radio regularly listens
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to us.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Hangs out.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Clay and Buck both excited to have you. Congressman. What
are you seeing on the ground in Indiana And are
you more optimistic about a Trump victory or the Indiana
Hoosiers football team.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Either one. What a great year this is going to
end up being. When we get Donald Trump back in
the White House and the Indiana Hoosiers win the national
championship in football is something that has never happened in
my lifetime. Eight and oh, the Indiana Hoosiers unbelievable. But
I think the win next Tuesday is going to be
unbelievable too. I feel it everywhere that I go. I'm
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in Evansville. I just met with Republicans in Vanderberg County,
which is the opposite corner of the state from where
I come from and where I report in Congress. And
the early voting in Evansville, just like all over the
state for Republicans, is record breaking. You're seeing that all
over the country. But Republicans have figured out that our
(16:12):
our key to victory is to go out and vote early,
beat the Democrats at their own game, and we're doing
that in a big way, not just in Indiana but
around the country. And I'm very optimistic about.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Next Tuesday, Congress and Banks. I'm just wondering, how is
your opponent even trying to get within striking distance of you.
I mean, we're we're very confident that you're gonna You're
gonna pull this one out, and I think you are too.
But I'm just wondering, are we seeing the oh, I'm
a Democrat, but I actually would work with Donald Trump
or something like how is that going in a state
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that's as solid in its politics as Indiana's.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, you're not seeing that here. My opponent is missing
an action. The only thing that she does is she
tweets at me on every day about abortion, and and
she's got the radical abortion all the way up to
the moment that a baby takes his or her first
breath position. And because I'm a pro life Republican will
(17:13):
ever shy away from that issue. She's been attacking me
on that, but on Twitter, we don't hear from her.
Almost anywhere else, Indiana is as Republican as it's ever
been in my lifetime. And I think this is the
national story that Donald Trump has made working class union
Democrat voters who come from who work in the steel
mills in Gary, Indiana, or the factory floors of Fort Wayne,
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those voters who voted Democrat all their life are now
Trump Republicans. And that's made Indiana more Republican than it's
ever been in my lifetime. So I'm not taking anything
for granted. I'm zig zagging the state and making my
case that Indiana deserves a conservative fighter in the United
States Senate, and that's what I'm going to be for
my state. But this state is as Republican has ever
(17:58):
been before, and you're seeing those working class voters in
places like Pennsylvania. This is why I'm optimistic about the election.
Those union, working class, blue collar voters in Pennsylvania aren't
voting for Kamala Harris. They're voting for Donald Trump because
he represents their working class values. The Republicans represent their
working class values more than ever before, and I think
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that's why we went big.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I think that's important because there is some overlap, whether
it's Indiana, Ohio, with Pennsylvania, with Michigan and with Wisconsin voters.
How do you see that ultimately playing out? Do you
think that they're going to as Buck and I have said,
ultimately regret moving on from Joe Biden because he did
(18:41):
connect with those working class voters Scranton, Joe, while you
and I and Buck may think it was a put on. Basically,
he was wearing a costume seemed to work. Meanwhile, those
guys are not responding very well to Kamala.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, I think most blue collar voters saw through Joe
Biden least Scranton, Joe talk to them. Kamala Harris doesn't
talk to blue collar, working class voters because today's Democrat
Party doesn't represent those voters. And they know it. I mean,
I see it in my state. I've been on the road.
By the way, JD. Vance was absolutely the best pick
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that Donald Trump could have ever made for this reason,
these Midwest blue collar states. I've been on the road
with him in Pennsylvania and watching him campaign and talk
to these voters, specifically the Trump voter. My dad is
a retired union factory worker. He voted Democrat all of
his life until Trump game came down the escalator, and
(19:40):
he's been for Donald. He's a Trump voter that voted
Democrat before. And JD. Vance is talking to voters like
that in a very effective way and bringing them to
our side. And I really think this is the secret recipe.
But also keep in mind that at twenty sixteen and
in twenty twenty, Donald Trump brought out voters that he
didn't vote in twenty eighteen or twenty twenty two. I mean,
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that's just the fact of the matter. They're going to
come out and vote in a bigger way than ever
before at twenty twenty four, because they know what's his stake.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Talking to Congress from Jim Banks of Indiana, and how
are you viewing this early voting reality that Republicans are
seeing And is it something that you think is indicative
of a real change in strategy for the GOP that's
going to be particularly affected this time around, And what's
your view of it?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, look, take Nevada
for example, a forty thousand vote margin over five percent
margin over Democrats and early voting. I mean that's the story.
I mean four years ago, if any mistake was made,
it was to discourage early voting and absentee voting. This time,
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President Trump Republicans all over the country at telling I
just met with a large group of republic voters in Evansville.
In the end, it's on to go vote today, go
vote early, and take somebody with you. That advantage that
we're going to have in early voting is going to
make a big difference. So this is a this is
a part of the overall strategy. It's really important, and
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you're seeing it in the swing states. You know, Nevada
is a state that Republicans have to win. I think
we are going to win it. I think we're going
to win it by a fair amount. But you see
these early voting Republican margins and advantage over Democrats and
states like that, it gives me a lot of optimism.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You are going to be in the Senate. You've got
open seats in Michigan, in West Virginia, you got challenge
seats in Ohio, Montana, in Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin with incumbents Arizona, Nevada.
As you just mentioned, how optimistic are you based on
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what you're seeing not only about the presidential race, but
about Republicans taking back control of the Senate.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Well, guys, I just look at these these polls, and
you know, two or three months ago, Uh, Eric Covedy
in Wisconsin. Uh, it wasn't. It wasn't a race that
was on everybody's radar. Today is tied the same thing
McCormick and Pennsylvania's tied. Mike Rodgers in Michigan is in
the margin of air. Uh. And that that these polls,
(22:18):
they all again get back to this point. The Trump
brings out voters should don't vote otherwise these races are
going to be really close. But the Trump the Trump
voters going to come out in a way and carry
these candidates over the top if we keep doing what
we're doing. We've got a week week to go. We
can't take anything for granted that all of these races
are going to be close. From from the presidential race,
(22:40):
the Senate races. We've got close races in Indiana for
a closer race, and uh, in our governor's race, I
think Mike Brown is gonna win by by by by
by by a fair amount. But we can't take any
of these races for granted. We've got to get out
and vote early and take people with us to do it.
So the high water mark for Republicans in our lifetime
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has been a fifty five seat majority, and that's not
out of reach. I mean in Montana, in Ohio, we
have two great opportunities that gives us to fifty two.
And then you get Hubby McCormick and Rogers. In these
Midwest seats, you get Dan Brown's my favorite candidate in
the country, is a real American hero in Nevada, Carry
(23:24):
Lake in Arizona. Opportunity here to break the record and
have the biggest Republican majority of the Senate that we've
had in our lifetime.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No doubt, Congressman soon to be Senator. We appreciate you
coming on with us. Have a good last week of running,
and we look forward to seeing you in the Senate
in a few months.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Great to be with you. Have a good day.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay Travis att Box Sexton.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Battleground Wisconsin, my friends, among the most important states in
this election, and we're going to find out how it
goes in just a few days. A friend, Eric Hovedy,
joins us now. He's running against incumbent Swamp Democrat Tammy Baldwin,
and Eric, I could say, the good news is that
(24:14):
you are within a point according to Real Clear Politics average,
and there are some pulsters that do have you up
a point. So it is as neck and neck as
a race can be at this point. What do you
We wanted to just bring you on because we feel
like this one we gotta win Wisconsin for Trump. We
gotta win Wisconsin for you in the Senate. What's it
(24:35):
like in the final days, what are you seeing?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Look the energies on our side. Momentum is very important.
You know, think of how important momentum is in business
or sports. Well, in politics it's critical because you got
to stop that date and look. The momentum is definitely
in our direction. You've seen it in the polls, the
excitement on our side you're seeing and early voting. But
(25:01):
we just need to keep it going. I mean, every
one of your listeners that's listening today, they got to
not only make sure they get out and vote, but
they got to get their friends, their colleagues, their neighbors,
the people they hunt and fish with and watch packer
games with, and all the rest. I mean, we just
everybody's got to do their effort. President Trump and me
are the tips of the spears, but we can't do
(25:23):
it without everybody's help.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So I feel.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Good, But I'm going to run all the way through
the finish line. I'm giving five six speeches a day.
I'm doing the Trump rally tonight, and you know what,
I'll just collapse after I get through Next Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I believe Brett Farv is going to be at the
Trump rally tonight if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, one of
the all time greats for Packer fans out there, what
kind of preview can you give us for what that
rally tonight in Wisconsin will be like.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Look, I think it's going to be rocking. I love
it that Brett Favre's coming up by me. He's my
all time favorite Packer player because I was a kid
suffering for the twenty years they stunk at Post Lobardi
until far came. So I think it's gonna bring a
lot of excitement. So yeah, I'm gonna be up speaking mates,
(26:15):
get up and speak with President Trump because every time
he comes, he always likes pulling me up on stage.
But I'll definitely be speaking beforehand. It'll be fun hanging
out with Brett Favre and then maybe after share a
couple beers together. By the way, guys, you all to
know how desperate the Democrats are. They're running in ad
saying I want to ban beer.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Wow, way that would be.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That would be a tough thing to do in Wisconsin.
I would thank you guys. Drink more beer than anybody.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah, and you know it's not like my refrigerator's
not stuffed with beer. So it's just priceless the crazy
stuff they'll do. But you know, look, she he is
so corrupt. Every single one of her li ads are
a lie. She's trying to claim I want to take
Social Security away. She's the one bankrupting it. I'm saying
we got to protect it. She's trying to attack me,
(27:06):
saying I want to take veterans benefits away. I'm after
her because she's allowed illegal immigrants, you know, cash payments
and putting them up in hotels when we've got veterans
living on the streets. She is just absolutely wrong on everything.
And the only thing she's perfected in Washington, DC is
(27:26):
the art of line and that's about it.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
How is the ground game looking in Wisconsin for the
GOP side. I know you're very very much on the
front lines of that with your campaign, But are we
seeing some of the shift in approach from the previous
election comes to early voting? And also, we've got a
lot of people that are worried that there's going to
be Shenanigan's going on. Eric, what can you tell us
(27:52):
about election integrity measures in your state? I mean, I
know your judiciary. Unfortunately state judiciary, they may be on
the Shenanigans.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Oh look, I'm very concerned because they won't clean up
our voter roles. I mean, geez, I wish we had
a governor like what's going on in Virginia and you know,
like kempt it in Georgia. But you know, they purposely
leave people that you know that shouldn't be on the
voter rolls anymore. So, yeah, I'm concerned about it. Are
(28:24):
we in a better position today than in twenty Absolutely
we don't have we ban zucker Bucks. There's been some
election cases that have gone in our favor. But yeah,
you're always worried that the Shenanigans that they're going to
play because they'll do anything. They don't have any kind
of moral compass to them. At the same time, on
(28:47):
the ground game, I feel the ground games in a
much better position than it was back four years ago.
You know, there's everybody's heard about, you know, Elon Musk
organization that's doing stuff, but I think there's some other
groups out there also, So I think the ground games
in pretty good shape. To be honest with you, you.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Mentioned early voting. What is the law in Wisconsin on
early voting? We have a monster audience, as you well know,
all over the state of Wisconsin. What should people know
about early voting, and what are those early returns looking
like for you?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Well, right now early voting's looking better for Republicans worse
for Democrats than it was in sixteen and in twenty.
So the trend lines look good, but we need to
keep it up because here's the simple fact. You can't
just wait until election day because you don't know what's
going to happen. Maybe on election day you get in
a car accident, maybe your child gets sick, maybe something
(29:45):
crisis comes up at work, maybe you have to do
last second travel. So I encourage people to get out
and vote early, and then there's another benefit by doing that.
Then it allows us to talk get those people that
haven't gotten their vote, so we don't have to spend resources.
And then if you vote early, then on election day
(30:08):
you can go grab your friend or your colleague or
whatever and make sure you know, if you have real
elderly parents, get them out, get them out early. So
it's just it's such a ground game and everybody has
to play their part. And look, my success in President
Trump's success are all dependent on the people that are
(30:28):
listening to your shows, and everybody just has to step
up because we need change in this country. I mean,
what they've done in the last four years. This is
going to be the most consequential election. I mean, what
do President Trump and I want to do. He wants
to make America great again, which I'm fully I'm on board,
and I want to restore the American dream. What do
(30:49):
Baldwin and Harris want to do? They want to change America.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
That's what they.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Told you four years ago, and man, they sure have
and it's not for the better.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Eric Cammy ball in the incumbent, very sly Democrat, But
I just want, for the purposes of truth and fairness,
tell us where on a major issue, because she's a maverick, Right,
That's what she's telling people Wisconsin. She'll go her own
way and she'll represent their interests. Right, that's what she says.
Where has she broken with Chuck Schumer, Like when Chuck
(31:18):
says do this, Tammy, where has she said, no, I'm
not going to go along with your left wing agenda.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Never. In fact, she's more left wing than Chuck Schumer.
She's just always masqueraded back in our state as a moderate,
except in the Madison area, where she's her full true
progressive left colors. I mean, she's always been voted one
of the top three most progressive left senators, and you know,
she's one of the ones that are really pushing this transgenderism.
(31:48):
She pushed that gave that Earmark, our tax Paara dollar
money to a Madison clinic that is transgendering kids, and
then they have been walking journal Sentine'll say, oh, that's
not true that clinic changed their website. They're stupid though,
because everybody had a snapshot of what their former website
that literally says it and says without parents notification. She's
(32:12):
the one pushing this whole thing of guys playing girls
sports and going into girls' bathrooms and locker rooms. She's
the one who voted for giving cash payments to legal
immigrants and putting them up in hotels. She's always been
way out on the left. She's just now being exposed.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We're talking to Eric Hovey, who should be the next
senator from the state of Wisconsin, since that Trump is
doing pretty well there. Because to build on what you
just said in the question, Buck just asked, Tammy Baldwin
now is running ads with Donald Trump in them? To
my understanding, saying, oh, I'll work across the aisle. That
must be a sign that Trump is looking pretty good.
(32:52):
What would you say to anybody out there that is
thinking about splitting their ballot? Aren't you just cutting Trump's
legs out from underneath him if you're not going Trump
Hubby straight down the ballot?
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Oh of course. Well, first of all, she called Donald
Trump one of the most dangerous men with a dark soul,
and had a lot of other negative things to say.
She's had very derogatory comments about Trump voters. And by
the way, if he doesn't have you know, think of
a football team. You can have the greatest quarterback, but
(33:24):
if you don't have an offensive line, you're going to
be running for your life. So, you know, President Trump
needs people in the Senate to get his agenda through
because otherwise what are the Democrats going to do. They're
immediately going to start trying to impeach them day one.
We know they're going to do that all They did
it twice last time. So you know, President Trump and
I have a great relationship. He laughs at you know,
(33:47):
Center Baldwin trying to take credit like he ever worked
with her. Give me a break. She's one of the
biggest people that was opposing everything that he stood for.
So yeah, I mean, if you're thinking of voting for
Tammy Baldwin and Donald Trump, then you know there was
about on the polar opposite as you possibly could get.
(34:08):
And all she wants to do is see President Trump
get impeached. So look, I I'd be honored to have
all your listeners votes. I need them President Trump and
I want to turn this country around. We've got to
save our country. We're blessed to live in America, the
greatest country that mankind's ever known, but if we don't
(34:28):
get it going in the right direction, we won't recognize
it anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Eric, where can people go to donate help get out
there in these last critical days.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Yeah, thanks guys to Eric E. R I C hub
the h o VD dot com if we're trying to
stay up on air to match her. So I really
appreciating all the donations. Put up signs, go out and vote,
and guys, it's always been great being on your show.
Thank you so much. Let's go, Let's go save our
wonderful country.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Let's go close us out for Hovedy, Wisconsin Heights. We
got so many of you, I mean, we are number
one in Milwaukee, So you know, just saying, so please
get out there, do what you can and get those
votes lined up for Trump, for Hovedy, for everyone else
down ballot on the Republican side. And let's bring this,
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
Fantastic data rolling in on early voting all over the country.
Get out and vote. Arizona, Nevada, and North Carolina Florida,
four states where they distinguish between Republican and Democrat voters,
and Republicans are showing up in big numbers all over
(35:59):
Keep the pro pure on. The game plan is working.
Trump is going to win in seven days if the
enthusiasm remains high, and if all of you get out
and do your civic duty and vote. Encourage you to
vote early if you can and see people still are
asking the question. I understand you're not able to listen
to every segment. We've been talking about it for a while.
(36:21):
What's the benefit of voting early. The benefit of voting
early is once they can check you off, they get
the roster of voters. Once they can check you off,
it allows them to focus on lower propensity voters. This
is what Democrats have done a great job of Why
banking votes matters because you have limited resources and if,
(36:45):
for instance, you're one of the millions of people that
have voted, and there are reports now that over fifty
million people have already voted, so we're talking about whatever
that's going to end up being around a third of
all votes have already voted. I think probably close to
half of you overall are going to vote early before
(37:06):
we even get to election day. But it allows other
money and resources to be spent on people that may
need it. Maybe somebody needs a ride to the polls.
Maybe somebody is not as plugged in as you are,
who are listening to this program right now and they
just haven't been focused on the race. But they're Trump
(37:27):
voters and they need to be reached out to. When
you bank your vote, then they are able to focus
on others put those resources elsewhere. So Buck voted early.
I voted early. You heard Bill O'Reilly with us earlier.
He voted early. And by the way, thanks to Ryan Gardeski,
who just joined us to talk about him being banned
from CNN. We're going to talk with Jim Banks, who's
(37:51):
going to be the next Senator from Indiana, at the
bottom of this hour. FYI just headed in your direction,
But Buck, I wanted to hit on a little bit.
We haven't talked about it a great deal, but the
Washington Post, the LA Times, and now USA Today have
all chosen not to endorse a presidential candidate. The fallout
(38:14):
at the Washington Post in particular has been pretty incredible,
and Jeff Bezos penned last night and editorial that I
believe is in today's Washington Post print edition. But ten
percent of the Washington Post's overall subscribers, around two hundred
and fifty thousand people have canceled their subscriptions to The
(38:38):
Washington Post because Jeff Bezos made the decision not to
endorse Kamala Harris. And but there were a couple of
lines that I thought were particularly interesting from that Bezos
piece that I was going to hit you with, and
just off the top, I agree with him. I think
the idea that you should be out there. Endorsing a
(39:01):
newspaper when you claim that you are unbiased and nonpartisan
is important. And this is how he started off. Nobody
trusts journalists basically anymore. And he said, we must be accurate.
We must be believed to be accurate. It's a bitter
pill to swallow, but we're failing on the second requirement.
(39:25):
Most people believe the media is biased, and those who
don't believe that aren't paying attention to reality. I read
his piece last night. I agreed with most of it.
Now I question where's he been for the last eleven years,
because he's one of the reasons the way the Washington
Post has been written and covered in writing democracy dies
in darkness at the top of the newspaper. His paper
(39:48):
has been emblematic of the collapse in trust. But maybe
better late than than than never. And I actually agree
with almost everything he wrote in the piece.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Well, there's there's a prom that these these legacy media
outlets have CNN among them, Washington Post, the New York Times,
which is the more that they embrace partisanship as their
primary goal, the less their news organizations. And if they're
not news organizations, why should they occupy this exalted space, Like,
(40:23):
what why should the New York Times be treated as
in any way more authoritative than say The Nation, which
is communist slop online, full on communist slop. I mean,
I've actually spent time reading Slate dot com the Nation,
so I know these sites same way that I watched
Morning Joe. I like to go. I like to go,
you know, maneuvering through the enemy camp when they're not
(40:45):
paying attention and Clay. The answer is, there's no reason
other than just kind of tradition. You know, heritage, Like
New York Times is really old. You know, the New
York Post is really old too, and I think the
New York Post is a much better paper. There's no
reason to give these places greater credibility in the public sphere,
which affects their brand, which affects their value, affects everything.
(41:07):
So I think bezos from the business side of things.
I'm as just gonna put it out there. You know,
a guy maybe maybe.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Maybe gets on a little trt, you know, I don't
know what else, maybe gets a little little of the
juices flowing there, puts on a little muscle. It's got
his bikini clad girlfriend run around everywhere and all of a.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Sudden, he's a little more. He's not right wing, but
he's no longer a full blown communist. You know, he's
moving in that direction. And I think, and by the way,
I would, I think in ten years Jeff Bezos will
be a Republican based on his current trajectory. I think
in ten years, I know it's a long ways out,
but I think as he gets older and wiser and
sees more and has more of this responsibility of being
(41:46):
one of the richest people on the planet on his shoulders,
he's going to be more right wing. Maybe he won't
be quite a Republican, he'll be independent, but Clay, he's
gonna keep moving in that direction.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I am an unabashed lover of newspapers. I if you
see me on an airplane flight, and it's a very
long flight at all, I get on an airplane bucks
sometimes with like six or seven newspapers. I love reading newspapers,
even newspapers that have articles where I just am like, oh,
(42:14):
you kidding me, this is the dumbest argument I've ever seen.
I still love consuming that information, reading it all. The
Washington Post used to be a really intelligent somewhat again,
we know it's left of center, maybe even substantially left
of center. But everybody in the DC area, whether you
(42:35):
were a Democrat or a Republican, used to read the
Washington Post every single day.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
It wasn't wasn't Crodhammer a columnist there. I mean, they've had,
they've had George Will. George I like.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
But he's like an old, like crotchety event. But yes,
I mean they had. He's probably voting Kamala this time around.
But yeah, sure, yeah, right, I get it that a
lot of these guys are I mean we I think
George Will, if you got I'm a Bezos routine, you
know what I'm saying. Maybe hell little peptides got to
the gym, I think he'd start changing his voting patterns
a little too. But my point on that is it's
(43:11):
undeniable that the Washington Posts overall brand has collapsed. And
this is my argument. And I see it because I
come from the world of sports. When I see two
hundred and fifty thousand people have canceled their subscriptions, these
are not people that want news. These are people that
want to be told your team is the best, We're
(43:34):
the saviors, We're the heroes, and I see it from sports, Buck,
because one of the most consistently good business models online
in sports has been fan message boards. And when you
are too negative about a team, everybody at bails on
it because they come to the fan message board. I'm
a member, I'm a University of Tennessee fan. I want
(43:55):
to go read good things about my team. I want
to hear, hey, they're doing great, coaches are amazing. Doesn't
mean that you're lying, but just means that the slant
of a team based publication is going to be in
favor of the team, and as soon as it turns
to negative, people bail. And to me, that's what the
Washington Post became. I mean again, I've made this analogy before, Bluck,
(44:18):
but when I was in college, they treated Bill Clinton
and the Monica Lewinsky scandal like it was a major
earth shattering issue and their reporting did not in any
way make Bill Clinton more powerful than he otherwise would
have been. They treated him on some level like they
(44:38):
did Nixon Watergate. Joe Biden has more corruption and hunter
Biden in his background than any president in the twenty
first century, for sure, and they pretended it didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I do think Matt Drudge broke the Monica story, which
is what launched the Drudge Report, and then the Washington
Post and others began to cover it. So you're talking
about this, but.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
On every day, every day they would have a new
story about Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton. They are it is
a big It is actually a big story, right, I mean,
that's the thing. But it was just funny that none
of the news organization the quote Beltway news organizations broke
the story. I believe it was Rudge. Have you been Rudge?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I mean, what happens? It said, I don't know. It
makes it's a bummer.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Page for a dash as the lead story like every
day now, I.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Don't have it. Everyone I talked to on the right,
all the old guard on the right too, I'm like,
what happened to Matt Rudge the guys who know him,
and everyone's like, I don't know. So that's I don't
have a good answer other than it's a shame. I
wish I wish it wasn't so, but okay, so so
on the uh, well, we have a Wappo clip here.
It's twenty one and it goes to exactly uh what
(45:50):
we're talking about here the two hundred thousand subscriber exitus.
Play that for a second.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
And the three days since I first wrote about the
decision by owner Jeff Bezos to block a play endorsement
of Vice president Kamala Harris by the Post's editorial board,
you've seen a series of resignation, to calmness, resigned to
editorial writers, resigned, and you've also seen this sort of
revulsion or outcry on social media.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Well, it turns out to be real that over two.
Speaker 7 (46:15):
Hundred thousand people has canceled subscriptions to The Washington Post
in just three days, and that figure is rising. I'm
told you know that reflects about eight percent of the Post.
Call it two point five million subscribers. If you can
bind digital and print subscriptions, and it's an astonishing react.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Oh oh, astonishing. Okay, First of all, two things that
I have for you. Play one. I don't think anyone
cares who newspaper endorses. I don't think it matters except
for the people who work there, because it's a signal
to them we are a partisan outfit. We are here
for one. It all at the editorial page goes in
for that candidate. It gives a lot more cover to
the rest of the newsroom to try to play the
(46:53):
game too. That's part one, Part two. I think of
you on here with you're trying to you're trying to
blackmail Jeff Bezos with money. That's what Jeff Bezos should say.
But he should go full to Elon and be like, oh,
I lost eight percent of my subscribers for what is
effectively a vanity side project owning the post. He doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
This is where he's inoculated from the media environment subscriber base. Now,
he may not want to lose one hundred million dollars
a year or whatever that Post is losing on an
annual basis, but one hundred million dollars a year is
like what Jeff Bezos spends on his yacht. I mean,
it isn't even it isn't even like a rounding error
to him, Like he doesn't even necessarily notice it. And
(47:35):
this is where I actually give a lot of credit
to Bezos. And I haven't done that, but it is.
And I've been making this argument for a long time.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
It never has made sense to me that you claim
your newspaper is unbiased, nonpartisan, and then when an election
comes around, you tell how everybody you think, how how
you think everyone should vote. Now, if you want to
have a super smart guy make the case for Kamala,
and you want to have a super smart guy make
the case for Trump, and you want to put both
(48:05):
of those on your editorial page. To me, that's what
the editorial page should be. Intelligent arguments from a variety
of perspectives. But the idea that making the decision not
to endorse was in some way an unforgivable sin is
to me an indictment of many of these people canceling
(48:27):
their subscriptions because they're not actually paying for news. They're
paying for their side to be declared the victor. And
I think, unfortunately for Jeff Bezos, he played into this
when he put democracy dies in Darkness on the top
of the Washington Post newspaper. I mean, if I were
running the Washington Post at the time, I would have
(48:48):
I would have pushed back against that. I think he's
created this worldview and now his reporters are upset because
their version of the place that they work has in
some way been challenged, and he's saying, hey, actually we
will to do real journalism, and they're revolting.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's I mean, well, their job is not journalism. I
mean this is they're actually proving by their actions and
even by the audience actions, they're proving the point that
Bezos is making, which is they're they're no law. It's
no longer a journalistic entity. It has lost its way. Fully,
I would say CNN the same thing. CNN was destroyed
(49:24):
by Jeff zucker because it just became a free for
all of Trump and republic, you know, anti Trump, anti Republican,
just bile and and it was gross. And then they
had people like Jake tapperl like, oh, I'm just here
with the facts, and Anderson Cooper, I'm just here with
the questions. Bull crap. We're not idiots, we know exactly
what you're doing. And it's gross. It's gross.
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