November 12, 2024 • 36 mins
Kamala aide Jamal Simmons floats idea that Biden should resign, let Harris become first woman president. What is the real story of the early Trump-Biden debate? Trump cabinet appointments. Trump's new border czar Tom Homan explains deportations. Fox's Bill Melugin says Border Control morale rising after Trump win. iHeart app Talkback comments.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now
we've got a lot of aftermath and after action reporting
still coming in. Last week was victory week. I hope
you enjoyed, you know, eating wings with blue cheese, laid
into the night, watching a great movie, or out there
(00:21):
playing a sport with your family, doing something fun. Because
now the fight is back in action here and we're
trying to figure out how the Trump team is shaping
up as they get going.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
With the beginning of term two.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Trump two point zero going to become a reality in January,
and we also have the Democrats trying to regroup and
they will. To be clear.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You know, it's easy to get all wrapped up.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
In the Wow, what a sweeping victory for Trump. Trump
can't run again. Trump now has to do great things
in this next term.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I think he will.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm excited for the possibilities here, But the Republican Party
is going to have to deal with a Democrat party
without Donald Trump at the head of it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
No one, I think has to be reminded. I have very.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
High hopes for JD. Vance and as well as others.
I think the next generation of Republican leadership is in
a very good place already, and we have a deep bench.
I see Democrats say that on TV and then I'm like,
who's on this bench exactly? It's like, what even for
their purposes? Forget about whether I agree with him, I'm
just like that person can't win. Kamala Harris, though, as
(01:31):
we know, did not win. This was an interesting moment
on the TV over the weekend. Kamala Harris's former communications director,
a guy that I worked with briefly at The Hillclay the.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Hill dot Com.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Not like on Capitol Hill, Jamal Simmons, very nice guy
and very plugged in guy. I will tell you knows.
You know, he's got a Democrat rollerdex. He can get
anybody wants on the phone. He could then he certainly
can now after being Kamala's comm's director, and this is
what he he put out there for everybody. I just
wanted to dive into this with all of you. Just
cut four.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Joe Biden's been a phenomenal president. He's lived up to
so many of the promise that he's made. There's one
promise left that he could fulfill. Being a transitional figure.
He could resign the presidency in the next thirty days,
make Kamala Harris the President of the United States, give
it absolved being able to having to oversee the January
sixth transition right of her of her own defeat, and
(02:25):
it would make sure that it would dominate the news
at a point where Democrats have to learn drama and
transparency and doing things and the public we want to
see is the time. This is the moment for us
to change the entire perspective of how democrats say.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
This is now jumped from an internet name to a
Sunday morning show. I thought we were going to say,
what about the Supreme Court that's also out there.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, the Supreme Court might happen. I don't know if
it will.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That's not going to happen. And by the way, this
is not going to happen either. She's not going to
be the Supreme Court and Biden is not going to
step down. But here's what I she called. I think
this is interesting because why this is out there and
he's bringing up I'm telling you, I know Jabal. I
haven't spoken a little while, but I know Jabal. He
knows what everyone's talking about behind closed doors, and he
knows what the Kamala team has he was a part
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of it, right, I mean, he knows what has been discussed.
My assumption was always that Joe Biden was running for
term one with the idea that he would step down
and let her assume the role of incumbent effectively by
being a VP running in or not necessarily even running
in a primary, but a VP elevated. And that was
(03:35):
always the plan, right. The plan got messed up here
because they waited too long for it, because I think
they recognized that Kamala was such a weak candidate for this,
which he couldn't do it, which we've now seen. But
now do we get to the why this? So again,
I think this is an interesting idea. It will absolutely
not happen. In my mind, I give it less than
(03:55):
a one percent shot. I think it's almost you know, zero.
But here's what I see, Clay One. It won't happen
because it would be in essence for a lot of
people admitting that the DEI world, there's a lot of
certain people get a trophy that they didn't actually get, you.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It would really undermine I think in the public's eye. Yeah,
there'd be Democrats to say, yeah, the first black female president.
But it would be for thirty days. She wouldn't have
earned it, and she would have just lost an election
very badly. In a sense, that's kind of an encapsulation
of what a lot of people view DEI as right.
You make these superficial characteristics of people the means for
advancing them.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But I think you and I know the bigger thing.
Biden's just don't like her. Biden's just aren't going to
do it. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
First of all, I don't know that anybody's actually ever
thought through it. It would require Joe Biden to move
out of the White House and Kamala Harris to move
into the White House for one month, and then Joe
Biden what like, gets on a helicopter and flies to
his beach home.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And he isn't there anymore.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
It's an embarrassing way for Biden's era to end, to
the extent that he had an era at all. What
I do think the discussion is acknowledging on some level,
buck though, is that Kamala Harris is done in politics.
We talked about this as the stakes of these elections.
I do think it's worth going back to if Trump
(05:19):
had lost Democrats, in theory were going to try to
put him in prison for the rest of his life.
If Kamala had won, she was going to be the
first woman president. People would talk about her for hundreds
of years, even if most of us know that she
is an empty suit. Her name would have echoed throughout history. Instead,
(05:39):
they're gonna Michael Ducacas her like she's just gonna kind
of vanish. I know there's talk, Oh, she's gonna run
for governor in California. I don't think there's any ambition
for that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
When Hillary lost, there were at least some people out
there who said, well, she should run against him again
in twenty twenty four. In the immediate aftermath, Oh she's
been wronged.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Have you heard.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Anybody say, Oh, Kamala Harris has been wronged. Her career
is over. And I think in some ways this is
actually why I said, Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Wittmer, Gavin Newsom, Pritzker,
all of that crew, maybe AOC, all of them that
have larger national ambitions, they all wanted Kamala to lose
(06:23):
because if she had won, she's the nominee in twenty
eight They can't get past her. It's twenty thirty two
until you can run for president. Now, now you look
at it and you say she's swept out. They went
ahead and got rid of the DEI vice president. There's
no argument that she has to be the nominee because
(06:43):
she's the first black woman Asian woman to be vice president.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
She's done. She's out the window. I don't even think
she could run.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I think it would embarrass her how badly she would
get beaten in the primaries, because I think the real
story here, as you just mentioned it, is if they
had a legitimate primary, if Joe Biden had stepped down
like he should have some time in or announced that
he wasn't going to run like he should have, and
like I don't know June of twenty twenty three, Yeah,
(07:12):
then she would have never been the nominee. And Buck
the one thing I will say, we didn't get the
red wave in twenty twenty two. We got it in
twenty twenty four. I would submit that the reason we
got the red wave is because Biden took the wrong
lesson from the midterms. When they didn't get absolutely eviscerated,
he and his team took it as an indication that
(07:34):
what he was doing was popular, and that there was
still a demand for him to be re elected.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
They it's a classic thing Biden. After the midterms, the
team around him that was actually running the White House,
they decided that they weren't lucky, they were good, and
actually they were just lucky.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They were very lucky in those midterms. We've just that
Roe v.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Wade frankly got overturned, because I think you can look
back at it now and say he would have gotten
absolutely destroyed.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But for Roe v.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Wade getting overturned, that also diluted the impact of Roe
v Wade getting overturned Buck, I think in twenty four.
But yes, they took the lesson of this is an
endorsement of what we're doing. The American public actually supports us.
You've got to stay in and run.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And we've discussed this, and this is not just us
justifying that we were a little excited about twenty twenty.
I didn't want to talk about twenty twenty two any more.
Let's talk about twenty twenty four because we nailed it.
But in twenty two, there was a surge of red voting.
Republican voters did turn out in great numbers for a midterm.
They just didn't turn out where we needed.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Them to to win.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
The key race is to make it a successful midterm
for us. That is what ended up happening this time.
We got both. We got the numbers and the placement
of those numbers to make it matter.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So, Kamala, I think there's a recognition Clay that there
would even be discussion of her.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
As really a figurehead.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
President for a month or two as part of this transition.
It's the idea is absurd, But I'm telling you people
have talked about it who are at the high levels here,
and then you look at who No.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I was just gonna ask you like associated with this?
To me, this ties in what one question would you
love to know the true answer to associated with the
behind the scenes Biden Kamala drama, Like if you could
just like get true honesty, because I think this ties
in with the idea of elevating her. It's crazy because
(09:31):
they hate each other. I think I think somebody I
don't know who did it. If you're asking me my
vision of this, I think eventually because Biden was not
not just because of the stake bet Biden was not
planning on dropping even after the debate he did not
want to. It was a kicking and screaming situation.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I want to know who really came to him and said,
the Democrat Party is going to ostracize your family and
your legacy unless you step down, basically made him an
offer he can't refuse. I don't know if it was Pelosi.
I don't know if it was Barack himself.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think somebody sat him down and said, this isn't
just about you. This is about Jill and Hunter and
your brother whatever his name is, and your grandkids. Do
you want your grandkids and your great grandkids to get
into Yale and Harvard, even though they're going to be morons?
Then do what we say, because they will get into
Yale and Harvard and Princeton even though they're probably going
(10:33):
to be, like, you know, a bunch of clowns. The
point is, I think somebody got to him with that,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And I want to.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Know what it was and who was it who ordered
the code red is one way of putting I would
love to know that. I would love to know Buck.
How did the June twenty seventh debate actually happen? Because
you would have won your stake bet if they had
just not debated until September or October, as almost always happens.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So how did that come to reality?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
June twenty seventh, I want to know every minute detail
associated with that process.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Well, the two possibilities there are the And one of
the reasons we're talking about this is because I think
the Kamala Biden infighting means that we might get answers
to this, right, there are some things, like you know,
there are things that were going on in the Obama
administration you will never find You won't find out for
thirty years because they are Democrat royalty and nobody's gonna
(11:32):
There's a lot of things we've talk about here, but
no one's going to talk about it. They're going to
talk out of school on this because there's a fight
going on now for power within the party and they're
not you know, Biden and Kamala are no longer the
anointed and the people who have worked for them are
jockeying for power in the future. So yes, the only
two possibilities are somebody thought that if they got Biden
(11:53):
to debate, it would finally be the nail and the
Coffin of his candidacy. I don't buy that as much.
I actually think they were so delusion, or maybe not
delusions to the right word.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think that they were.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Just willing to roll the dice with we'll get out
ahead of this and then we'll put them all. We'll
put all the haters to sleep with this idea of
Biden being just fine. Can I just play real quick?
I looked this up the New York Times just wrote
a piece. Is what I was thinking about on the
next generation.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know the deep bench that Democrats have. You know
who the top names are.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I mean, we know some of them, but yeah, Gavin Newsom, JB.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Pritsker of Illinois.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm not trying to be mean, and I cast no
ast persons on anyone's wait or whatever, but I think
would be very tough for a guy. You know, we
are still kind of a superficial society. I don't see JB.
Pritzker being the President of the United States just saying,
you know, maybe he's gonna lose one hundred and fifty
pounds or so, but that.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Would be very in the same way we didn't see
Chris Christie because there is a cosmetic aspect to be.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And again, I don't criticize. I don't make fat jokes here,
don't criticize people's weight. I'm just saying I think that
he you know, I think that's an issue for him
legitimately at the national level. Jos Shapiro of Pennsylvania, Gretchen
Whitmer of Michigan, Wes Moore of Maryland, Phil Murphy of
New Jersey, Roy Cooper of North Carolina, Andy Basheer of Kentucky.
(13:07):
That is the New York Times list and Clay. Let
me just say, none of them, none of them have
the kind of brand power and national recognition that they
need to even be seriously considered right now for anything
in the presidential room.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Let me just say, Andy Basheer and Roy Cooper are
Tim Walls like in that every man who sees them
will be like, I'm not voting for that guy to
have control of nuclear power like Democrat. This is what
I think is the lasting legacy. Two things as we
go to break here.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
One buck.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I think one reason this Biden Kamala fight is going
to be so nasty is everybody recognizes neither the one
of them has a political future now, so they're not
fighting for the future of their careers, they're fighting for
their legacy.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Now, I think that's going to be particularly nasty.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Two to me, the biggest story of the twenty twenty
four election Trump on all those things, But in terms
of the data, Democrats have a monstrously huge issue with
young men and it's only going to continue to get worse.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So the reason when you read me all that list book, they.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Got to find a dude, I'm sorry, Democrats got to
find a guy that normal guys would like to have
a beer with. None of those guys you just ran
through on that list are dudes. They tried to argue, Oh,
Tim wall is going to be a football guy. I'm
telling you maybe Gavin Newsom honestly is the most dudliest
of that group. And that's being very kind, right, Who
(14:33):
would you want to have a beer with? In that group?
Gavin Newsom might be top of the list. And that's
not a high list we're thinking about, because I think
that's going to be an issue.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
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out with us as we are rolling through the true
story of what exactly went on. I still think June
twenty seventh, there's gonna be that first debate, more stories
associated with that coming out. I think you're right, Buck,
I think they understood that they were performing poorly, and
(16:02):
they needed to alter the narrative even going into the summer.
But I also think there were some people who knew
that Biden would do poorly and basically egged on the
idea of an uncharacteristically early, truly without precedent early debate
that would give them time to toss Biden to the curb.
(16:23):
So I wonder if part of the story of June
twenty seventh is what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
The same guys or gals who ultimately ordered the code
red also demanded the June twenty seventh debate for him
to prove he was up to it when many people
out there had questions, because that did give them the
time to kick him to the curb and come up
with a secondary option.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I think that it is fair to say that what
they did, if I were like a senior Democrat strategist
for this campaign cycle, they could not have screwed this
up anymore than they did. Correct they had the worst
of all possible worlds. Anything but what they did would
have been better. I even believe, and I know people
think this is really crazy, going all in with Biden
(17:10):
and allowing you know, there there was a whole narrative
there they could have pushed you need Biden to show
up out of debate and do better, and you need
him to be doing which I think he could do
even though he is, you know, very feeble. But they
did the worst possible thing, which is hold it to
the last minute and then make some panic switch.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
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say I'm not going to platform Trump or debate at all.
He could have even made that argument. If they thought mitigate,
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We have been discussing the forming of Trump's team, not
the campaign team, but of course in the transition. We're
looking at cabinet officials, that tier one level of presidential
appointee that often, not always, but often requires a Senate confirmation.
People like the National Security Advisor Michael Waltz. We've had
(19:03):
him on the show before. Definitely not to be confused
with Tim Walltz, by the way, we've had Michael Waltz
on the show before. Yeah, very different, very different dude
very different people, very different people. Yeah, one's very dude
like and the other is starring in a remake of
Chicago Fussy. It's actually perfect for Tim Wallas, Yes, totally
(19:23):
so Yeah, I think what we have is a national
security advisor and Walls who would do a very good job.
He's totally qualified, very smart guy, very good guy. A
plus from my perspective on that. Steven Miller likely to
be Deputy White House Chief of Staff A plus on that.
I won't just these are all getting top grades, right.
(19:45):
These are all top grade picks as far as I'm concerned,
or as far as my opinion matters for anything. Although
I have talked to some of these folks or some
of the people involved about this stuff, I would say,
os Susie Wiles Chief Staff, earned it great campaign. Can't
argue with that. Lee Zeldn. We haven't mentioned this EPA director.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
This is very interesting because generally you don't have a
lot of people throwing elbows to be at the EPA right,
especially Republicans. But Lee is very competent. Lee understands systems
and bureaucracies. He's going to be aligned with the Trump vision,
and I think what he's going to do is make
the e p A, if not great again, less horrible,
(20:29):
less less possible, less likely to annoy, harass, undermine, overregulate
the climate change craziness. I mean, all the it's become
a very ideologically uh infested place, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So I think Lee is there to clean it up.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I mean, I think he's wie Er at the of
the e PA. He's gonna do a good job, shake
it up. We'll talk to him, we'll have him on soon.
Christ you knowmem Again, as I said, she's got a
very important job, and I hope she does a very
good job. And she is Trump's pick, and God blessed,
let's hope it all come together because that's a big one.
But borders are borders are Tom Homan gonna be working
(21:07):
very closely with Noame. She's gonna make sure he's got
the resources, the political cover of the things that he
needs from a bureaucratic side. But Tom Holman on the
border is very encouraging to me. He's who I would
have picked for that role. And I know Tom and
have talked to Tom about the border many times before.
I think he is is a I look, I think
(21:28):
he's a perfect choice for this.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And here's the kind of stuff that he is saying.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I mean, the Left we played for you before a
clip to Clay, They're getting a little freaked out. It's like, oh,
it's gonna send everybody, and it's gonna be pandemonium. It's
not saying that it's gonna be pandemonium, but he's saying, Look,
if you're here illegally, there is a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Things are changing a bit. This has cut seven play it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Are you planning on deporting American citizens?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Exactly not.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Look the view, it's like the misfit Toys. They don't
what the hell they're talking about. President Trump has made
a clear we will prioritize public safety threats and national
security threats first, and that's what the focus would be.
And there's over one point five convicted criminal aimens in
this country with final orders.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Removal that we're gonna be looking for.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
There's there's thousands of gang members, ill got gamers we're
gonna be looking for. Now, I'm gonna say, if you're
in the country illegally, you shouldn't feel comftable. Absolutely no,
I won't feel comfortable if I'm in the country illegally.
If if I'm in some other country legally, I'm not
gonna be comfortable. You shouldn't be comfortable with either, because
when you enter this country illegally, you have committed a crime.
You are a criminal, and you're not off the table.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
This is the attitude of law and order that you
needed somebody in this role. Now, notice that what he's
saying is, yeah, there's obviously going to be as there
always is in law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I mean, the way the left plays this game, it's oh,
they're gonna just take They're gonna grab the dreamers, and
they're gonna take the grandmas who have been here for
thirty years, and they're gonna drag them out of their homes. Well,
legally that may be possible in the future, though, we'll
deal with that. We'll deal with that the American people,
meaning we when we get to it. But you could
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spend a tremendous amount of time, resources, and energy clay
for the next as I said, eighteen months to save
the country just dealing with real deal criminals, meaning people
who have done crimes here in addition to their illegality
or illegally arrived here and have serious convictions in their background.
You're talking about a big number of individuals in just
(23:29):
that category. And then if you want to add to it,
you could just take single adult males who have arrived
here in the last four years. You would be busy
with this the whole four years. But if you just
try to do that, it will dramatically change the crisis
of sovereignty that we're going through here.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Also, Buck is what I love.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
This is October twenty eighth, with sixty minutes. You know
what they're going to argue, Oh, you're going to separate family.
They didn't care about kids illegally crossing the border for
the last four years, often without their families being sex trafficked.
AOC and Company who were supposedly so angry about families
being separated. Tom Holman was asked about this on sixty minutes.
(24:16):
Cecilia Vega is the interviewer. I love this answer.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
This is cut eight. Flashback to sixty minutes, Tom Holman.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
We have seen one estimate that says it would cost
eighty eight billion dollars to deport a million people a year.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I don't know if it's accard or not.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Is that what American taxpayers should expect?
Speaker 6 (24:38):
What price do you put on national security?
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Is it worth it?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without
separating families of coursers.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Families can be deported together.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
That is a badass answer if you couldn't hear it.
She says, can you handle mass deportations without separating families?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He says, of course.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
There is pauses for a second and says families can
be deported together. This also, Buck ties in with what
I think is a fundamental issue that has to be rectified,
and that is this, We have to stop giving birthrights citizenship.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
If you come.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Into the country illegally, why in the world should you
be rewarded by your children becoming United States citizens. That
is a fundamental incentive structure that is not constitutional in
my mind, and it has to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And let me read this too, Buck. Bill Malugin said.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Border patrol and ice morale is surging following Trump's win
and the appointment of Tom Homan as borders are I'm
reading this from Bill Malugin. I reached out to a
handful of contacts to gauge the temperature. Sounds like night
and day. An ice officer said, it's a total one
point eighty. Troops are finally feeling like the sun is
(25:58):
coming out after a very long storm. People are fired up,
fired up to have support. It's amazing because we became
so numb. I don't think we realized how bad until
we finally have hope again. Everybody is saying that these
are quotes. You can go read them. Arizona Border Patrol
ecstatic to go to work, Morale higher than the first
(26:19):
time he won. Texas Border Patrol.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Dude.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
People who were going to retire are not. Everyone is
happy again. All these guys and gals are asking for
buck is the ability to do their job. And they
were so unable to do their job with Kamala Harrison
Joe Biden in office that some of them were thinking
about quitting because they were so depleted energy and morale wise,
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based on the lack of security at the border. Now
Trump is coming back and he is implementing a policy,
and I got to say a lot of squishy people
out there have to say tough on this. Have a spine,
don't allow you know what's gonna happen. They're gonna find
the one error in deportation. It's gonna be the lead
(27:05):
story in the Washington Post and the New York Times.
They didn't care about all the illegals coming in. If
somehow there is an error in trying to track somebody down.
If there is an error in the way that the
process goes, it's going to be on the front page
of the newspapers. The media is going to be grilling everybody.
Steel spines here. You can't fix an awful problem without potentially.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It getting a little bit worse in the first place.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Right, Everybody who's ever dealt with anything, if you're trying
to rebuild a house, the beginning process of the rebuild
the house looks worse.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Than it does when it's finished. Right.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
You got to tear down a lot of stuff in
order to build it back up. The teardown is going
to be messy, but the end result is going to
be worth It. Got to have a steal spine. I
hope our politicians and our media are willing to acknowledge
what's required to fix the mess that Biden and comlic created.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
This is the big test of the trumpetman. We're gonna
get tax cuts, everybody. Yay, it's gonna be nice to
get tax Cut's gonna happen. Great, I want taxes. We're
gonna get new trade deals, yay, great trade deals.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Great. Fine.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
This is the defining battle of the Trump administration. We
already know what it's going to be. This is what
he ran on, this is what has been promised, this
is what they are setting up for. And if he
can't do it, it's never getting done. So we might
as well just say I forget it. Gonna gonna legalize
thirty million illegals, and you know who they're gonna vote
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for the people who give them the most free stuff
taken from you, the American people.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So stakes are very high again.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Uh that's why I said last week, get out there,
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we have talkback. Let me hit a couple of these.
Paul in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I believe that's where Trump
finished his final rally, if I remember correctly, late late
on Monday night into Tuesday morning, Grand Rapids, Michigan, the
(33:20):
red state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Paul, what you got for us? So let's listen to this.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Hey, Clary Buck, I just want to let you know
that my family is all pretty much Democrat, and if
they were that bad towards me, I would probably just say, well,
that's I guess your choice. If you can't handle me
being who I am, I guess you don't love me anymore.
And it would be very sad to find that out,
but there'd be no skin off my nose because I,
(33:47):
unfortunately do not put up with the craziness anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah, look, Buck, I just I want to reiterate this.
Thanksgiving is the week after next right, We're about sixteen
days away from Thanksgiving if I'm doing my math right.
The idea that any of you would end lifelong relationships
over the election is so crazy to me that I
would just submit to you that while you might disagree politically,
(34:15):
don't give up your lifelong relationships, don't give up your
lifelong friendships. And I know many of you are not
making that choice, but I just non partisan basis. I mean,
I was upset when Joe Biden won. The idea that
I wouldn't go to Thanksgiving because somebody voted for Joe
Biden is crazy to me. Brian and Wooster Mass also
talking back with us.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Brian, what you got?
Speaker 7 (34:37):
It's Brian in Worcester, Mass. I'm just wondering if you
guys could bring up something about Trump pulling all of
these Republicans out of Congress to go into cabinet positions.
I mean, you guys were talking about how we lost
a lot as key Senate on that key, but Senate
seats that we could have got, and now the majority
that we do have, he's cannibalizing to put into the cabinet.
(34:59):
So what are your opinions on that?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Thanks, it's a fair question. Thank you for the talkback.
But this is the good news, is nothing to be
worried about. Let's say Mark Rubio become Secretary of State,
which we believe is going to happen, then he would
be replaced by Senator I'm sorry, by Governor DeSantis filling
that as a Senate seat until the next election, so
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you'll have a Republican.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
In that seat.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
They're not pulling any Republican senators out of a purple
or a blue state for this kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
So it's nothing to.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Where there's a Democrat governor to your point, Buck, where
you're going to get an appointment that's going to change
the political calculus.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Now the House is going to be close.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
What it will mean is elections sooner rather than later,
depending on for instance, at least Stephonic going and becoming
ambassador to the UN her what I think is quite
reliably red seat. There will be a primary to figure
out who's going to be taking over that job, but
you shouldn't be concerned. They are not taking any Senate
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seat away from Republicans so far as the cabinet is
being filled out. We'll give you the latest on this.
Our buddy Alex Bearnson, who is right on everything with COVID,
will be with us. We'll also talk some In the
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Welcome in second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now
we've got a lot of aftermath and after action reporting
still coming in. Last week was victory week. I hope
you enjoyed, you know, eating wings with blue cheese, laid
into the night, watching a great movie, or out there
(00:21):
playing a sport with your family, doing something fun. Because
now the fight is back in action here and we're
trying to figure out how the Trump team is shaping
up as they get going.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
With the beginning of term two.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Trump two point zero going to become a reality in January,
and we also have the Democrats trying to regroup and
they will. To be clear.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You know, it's easy to get all wrapped up.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
In the Wow, what a sweeping victory for Trump. Trump
can't run again. Trump now has to do great things
in this next term.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I think he will.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm excited for the possibilities here, But the Republican Party
is going to have to deal with a Democrat party
without Donald Trump at the head of it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
No one, I think has to be reminded. I have very.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
High hopes for JD. Vance and as well as others.
I think the next generation of Republican leadership is in
a very good place already, and we have a deep bench.
I see Democrats say that on TV and then I'm like,
who's on this bench exactly? It's like, what even for
their purposes? Forget about whether I agree with him, I'm
just like that person can't win. Kamala Harris, though, as
(01:31):
we know, did not win. This was an interesting moment
on the TV over the weekend. Kamala Harris's former communications director,
a guy that I worked with briefly at The Hillclay the.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Hill dot Com.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Not like on Capitol Hill, Jamal Simmons, very nice guy
and very plugged in guy. I will tell you knows.
You know, he's got a Democrat rollerdex. He can get
anybody wants on the phone. He could then he certainly
can now after being Kamala's comm's director, and this is
what he he put out there for everybody. I just
wanted to dive into this with all of you. Just
cut four.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Joe Biden's been a phenomenal president. He's lived up to
so many of the promise that he's made. There's one
promise left that he could fulfill. Being a transitional figure.
He could resign the presidency in the next thirty days,
make Kamala Harris the President of the United States, give
it absolved being able to having to oversee the January
sixth transition right of her of her own defeat, and
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it would make sure that it would dominate the news
at a point where Democrats have to learn drama and
transparency and doing things and the public we want to
see is the time. This is the moment for us
to change the entire perspective of how democrats say.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
This is now jumped from an internet name to a
Sunday morning show. I thought we were going to say,
what about the Supreme Court that's also out there.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, the Supreme Court might happen. I don't know if
it will.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That's not going to happen. And by the way, this
is not going to happen either. She's not going to
be the Supreme Court and Biden is not going to
step down. But here's what I she called. I think
this is interesting because why this is out there and
he's bringing up I'm telling you, I know Jabal. I
haven't spoken a little while, but I know Jabal. He
knows what everyone's talking about behind closed doors, and he
knows what the Kamala team has he was a part
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of it, right, I mean, he knows what has been discussed.
My assumption was always that Joe Biden was running for
term one with the idea that he would step down
and let her assume the role of incumbent effectively by
being a VP running in or not necessarily even running
in a primary, but a VP elevated. And that was
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always the plan, right. The plan got messed up here
because they waited too long for it, because I think
they recognized that Kamala was such a weak candidate for this,
which he couldn't do it, which we've now seen. But
now do we get to the why this? So again,
I think this is an interesting idea. It will absolutely
not happen. In my mind, I give it less than
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a one percent shot. I think it's almost you know, zero.
But here's what I see, Clay One. It won't happen
because it would be in essence for a lot of
people admitting that the DEI world, there's a lot of
certain people get a trophy that they didn't actually get, you.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It would really undermine I think in the public's eye. Yeah,
there'd be Democrats to say, yeah, the first black female president.
But it would be for thirty days. She wouldn't have
earned it, and she would have just lost an election
very badly. In a sense, that's kind of an encapsulation
of what a lot of people view DEI as right.
You make these superficial characteristics of people the means for
advancing them.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But I think you and I know the bigger thing.
Biden's just don't like her. Biden's just aren't going to
do it. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
First of all, I don't know that anybody's actually ever
thought through it. It would require Joe Biden to move
out of the White House and Kamala Harris to move
into the White House for one month, and then Joe
Biden what like, gets on a helicopter and flies to
his beach home.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And he isn't there anymore.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
It's an embarrassing way for Biden's era to end, to
the extent that he had an era at all. What
I do think the discussion is acknowledging on some level,
buck though, is that Kamala Harris is done in politics.
We talked about this as the stakes of these elections.
I do think it's worth going back to if Trump
(05:19):
had lost Democrats, in theory were going to try to
put him in prison for the rest of his life.
If Kamala had won, she was going to be the
first woman president. People would talk about her for hundreds
of years, even if most of us know that she
is an empty suit. Her name would have echoed throughout history. Instead,
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they're gonna Michael Ducacas her like she's just gonna kind
of vanish. I know there's talk, Oh, she's gonna run
for governor in California. I don't think there's any ambition
for that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
When Hillary lost, there were at least some people out
there who said, well, she should run against him again
in twenty twenty four. In the immediate aftermath, Oh she's
been wronged.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Have you heard.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Anybody say, Oh, Kamala Harris has been wronged. Her career
is over. And I think in some ways this is
actually why I said, Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Wittmer, Gavin Newsom, Pritzker,
all of that crew, maybe AOC, all of them that
have larger national ambitions, they all wanted Kamala to lose
(06:23):
because if she had won, she's the nominee in twenty
eight They can't get past her. It's twenty thirty two
until you can run for president. Now, now you look
at it and you say she's swept out. They went
ahead and got rid of the DEI vice president. There's
no argument that she has to be the nominee because
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she's the first black woman Asian woman to be vice president.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
She's done. She's out the window. I don't even think
she could run.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I think it would embarrass her how badly she would
get beaten in the primaries, because I think the real
story here, as you just mentioned it, is if they
had a legitimate primary, if Joe Biden had stepped down
like he should have some time in or announced that
he wasn't going to run like he should have, and
like I don't know June of twenty twenty three, Yeah,
(07:12):
then she would have never been the nominee. And Buck
the one thing I will say, we didn't get the
red wave in twenty twenty two. We got it in
twenty twenty four. I would submit that the reason we
got the red wave is because Biden took the wrong
lesson from the midterms. When they didn't get absolutely eviscerated,
he and his team took it as an indication that
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what he was doing was popular, and that there was
still a demand for him to be re elected.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
They it's a classic thing Biden. After the midterms, the
team around him that was actually running the White House,
they decided that they weren't lucky, they were good, and
actually they were just lucky.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They were very lucky in those midterms. We've just that
Roe v.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Wade frankly got overturned, because I think you can look
back at it now and say he would have gotten
absolutely destroyed.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But for Roe v.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Wade getting overturned, that also diluted the impact of Roe
v Wade getting overturned Buck, I think in twenty four.
But yes, they took the lesson of this is an
endorsement of what we're doing. The American public actually supports us.
You've got to stay in and run.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And we've discussed this, and this is not just us
justifying that we were a little excited about twenty twenty.
I didn't want to talk about twenty twenty two any more.
Let's talk about twenty twenty four because we nailed it.
But in twenty two, there was a surge of red voting.
Republican voters did turn out in great numbers for a midterm.
They just didn't turn out where we needed.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Them to to win.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
The key race is to make it a successful midterm
for us. That is what ended up happening this time.
We got both. We got the numbers and the placement
of those numbers to make it matter.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So, Kamala, I think there's a recognition Clay that there
would even be discussion of her.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
As really a figurehead.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
President for a month or two as part of this transition.
It's the idea is absurd, But I'm telling you people
have talked about it who are at the high levels here,
and then you look at who No.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I was just gonna ask you like associated with this?
To me, this ties in what one question would you
love to know the true answer to associated with the
behind the scenes Biden Kamala drama, Like if you could
just like get true honesty, because I think this ties
in with the idea of elevating her. It's crazy because
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they hate each other. I think I think somebody I
don't know who did it. If you're asking me my
vision of this, I think eventually because Biden was not
not just because of the stake bet Biden was not
planning on dropping even after the debate he did not
want to. It was a kicking and screaming situation.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I want to know who really came to him and said,
the Democrat Party is going to ostracize your family and
your legacy unless you step down, basically made him an
offer he can't refuse. I don't know if it was Pelosi.
I don't know if it was Barack himself.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think somebody sat him down and said, this isn't
just about you. This is about Jill and Hunter and
your brother whatever his name is, and your grandkids. Do
you want your grandkids and your great grandkids to get
into Yale and Harvard, even though they're going to be morons?
Then do what we say, because they will get into
Yale and Harvard and Princeton even though they're probably going
(10:33):
to be, like, you know, a bunch of clowns. The
point is, I think somebody got to him with that,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And I want to.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Know what it was and who was it who ordered
the code red is one way of putting I would
love to know that. I would love to know Buck.
How did the June twenty seventh debate actually happen? Because
you would have won your stake bet if they had
just not debated until September or October, as almost always happens.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So how did that come to reality?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
June twenty seventh, I want to know every minute detail
associated with that process.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Well, the two possibilities there are the And one of
the reasons we're talking about this is because I think
the Kamala Biden infighting means that we might get answers
to this, right, there are some things, like you know,
there are things that were going on in the Obama
administration you will never find You won't find out for
thirty years because they are Democrat royalty and nobody's gonna
(11:32):
There's a lot of things we've talk about here, but
no one's going to talk about it. They're going to
talk out of school on this because there's a fight
going on now for power within the party and they're
not you know, Biden and Kamala are no longer the
anointed and the people who have worked for them are
jockeying for power in the future. So yes, the only
two possibilities are somebody thought that if they got Biden
(11:53):
to debate, it would finally be the nail and the
Coffin of his candidacy. I don't buy that as much.
I actually think they were so delusion, or maybe not
delusions to the right word.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think that they were.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Just willing to roll the dice with we'll get out
ahead of this and then we'll put them all. We'll
put all the haters to sleep with this idea of
Biden being just fine. Can I just play real quick?
I looked this up the New York Times just wrote
a piece. Is what I was thinking about on the
next generation.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know the deep bench that Democrats have. You know
who the top names are.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I mean, we know some of them, but yeah, Gavin Newsom, JB.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Pritsker of Illinois.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm not trying to be mean, and I cast no
ast persons on anyone's wait or whatever, but I think
would be very tough for a guy. You know, we
are still kind of a superficial society. I don't see JB.
Pritzker being the President of the United States just saying,
you know, maybe he's gonna lose one hundred and fifty
pounds or so, but that.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Would be very in the same way we didn't see
Chris Christie because there is a cosmetic aspect to be.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And again, I don't criticize. I don't make fat jokes here,
don't criticize people's weight. I'm just saying I think that
he you know, I think that's an issue for him
legitimately at the national level. Jos Shapiro of Pennsylvania, Gretchen
Whitmer of Michigan, Wes Moore of Maryland, Phil Murphy of
New Jersey, Roy Cooper of North Carolina, Andy Basheer of Kentucky.
(13:07):
That is the New York Times list and Clay. Let
me just say, none of them, none of them have
the kind of brand power and national recognition that they
need to even be seriously considered right now for anything
in the presidential room.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Let me just say, Andy Basheer and Roy Cooper are
Tim Walls like in that every man who sees them
will be like, I'm not voting for that guy to
have control of nuclear power like Democrat. This is what
I think is the lasting legacy. Two things as we
go to break here.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
One buck.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I think one reason this Biden Kamala fight is going
to be so nasty is everybody recognizes neither the one
of them has a political future now, so they're not
fighting for the future of their careers, they're fighting for
their legacy.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Now, I think that's going to be particularly nasty.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Two to me, the biggest story of the twenty twenty
four election Trump on all those things, But in terms
of the data, Democrats have a monstrously huge issue with
young men and it's only going to continue to get worse.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So the reason when you read me all that list book, they.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Got to find a dude, I'm sorry, Democrats got to
find a guy that normal guys would like to have
a beer with. None of those guys you just ran
through on that list are dudes. They tried to argue, Oh,
Tim wall is going to be a football guy. I'm
telling you maybe Gavin Newsom honestly is the most dudliest
of that group. And that's being very kind, right, Who
(14:33):
would you want to have a beer with? In that group?
Gavin Newsom might be top of the list. And that's
not a high list we're thinking about, because I think
that's going to be an issue.
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story of what exactly went on. I still think June
twenty seventh, there's gonna be that first debate, more stories
associated with that coming out. I think you're right, Buck,
I think they understood that they were performing poorly, and
(16:02):
they needed to alter the narrative even going into the summer.
But I also think there were some people who knew
that Biden would do poorly and basically egged on the
idea of an uncharacteristically early, truly without precedent early debate
that would give them time to toss Biden to the curb.
(16:23):
So I wonder if part of the story of June
twenty seventh is what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
The same guys or gals who ultimately ordered the code
red also demanded the June twenty seventh debate for him
to prove he was up to it when many people
out there had questions, because that did give them the
time to kick him to the curb and come up
with a secondary option.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I think that it is fair to say that what
they did, if I were like a senior Democrat strategist
for this campaign cycle, they could not have screwed this
up anymore than they did. Correct they had the worst
of all possible worlds. Anything but what they did would
have been better. I even believe, and I know people
think this is really crazy, going all in with Biden
(17:10):
and allowing you know, there there was a whole narrative
there they could have pushed you need Biden to show
up out of debate and do better, and you need
him to be doing which I think he could do
even though he is, you know, very feeble. But they
did the worst possible thing, which is hold it to
the last minute and then make some panic switch.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Well, we argued for a while that Biden could just
say I'm not going to platform Trump or debate at all.
He could have even made that argument. If they thought mitigate,
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We have been discussing the forming of Trump's team, not
the campaign team, but of course in the transition. We're
looking at cabinet officials, that tier one level of presidential
appointee that often, not always, but often requires a Senate confirmation.
People like the National Security Advisor Michael Waltz. We've had
(19:03):
him on the show before. Definitely not to be confused
with Tim Walltz, by the way, we've had Michael Waltz
on the show before. Yeah, very different, very different dude
very different people, very different people. Yeah, one's very dude
like and the other is starring in a remake of
Chicago Fussy. It's actually perfect for Tim Wallas, Yes, totally
(19:23):
so Yeah, I think what we have is a national
security advisor and Walls who would do a very good job.
He's totally qualified, very smart guy, very good guy. A
plus from my perspective on that. Steven Miller likely to
be Deputy White House Chief of Staff A plus on that.
I won't just these are all getting top grades, right.
(19:45):
These are all top grade picks as far as I'm concerned,
or as far as my opinion matters for anything. Although
I have talked to some of these folks or some
of the people involved about this stuff, I would say,
os Susie Wiles Chief Staff, earned it great campaign. Can't
argue with that. Lee Zeldn. We haven't mentioned this EPA director.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
This is very interesting because generally you don't have a
lot of people throwing elbows to be at the EPA right,
especially Republicans. But Lee is very competent. Lee understands systems
and bureaucracies. He's going to be aligned with the Trump vision,
and I think what he's going to do is make
the e p A, if not great again, less horrible,
(20:29):
less less possible, less likely to annoy, harass, undermine, overregulate
the climate change craziness. I mean, all the it's become
a very ideologically uh infested place, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So I think Lee is there to clean it up.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I mean, I think he's wie Er at the of
the e PA. He's gonna do a good job, shake
it up. We'll talk to him, we'll have him on soon.
Christ you knowmem Again, as I said, she's got a
very important job, and I hope she does a very
good job. And she is Trump's pick, and God blessed,
let's hope it all come together because that's a big one.
But borders are borders are Tom Homan gonna be working
(21:07):
very closely with Noame. She's gonna make sure he's got
the resources, the political cover of the things that he
needs from a bureaucratic side. But Tom Holman on the
border is very encouraging to me. He's who I would
have picked for that role. And I know Tom and
have talked to Tom about the border many times before.
I think he is is a I look, I think
(21:28):
he's a perfect choice for this.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And here's the kind of stuff that he is saying.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I mean, the Left we played for you before a
clip to Clay, They're getting a little freaked out. It's like, oh,
it's gonna send everybody, and it's gonna be pandemonium. It's
not saying that it's gonna be pandemonium, but he's saying, Look,
if you're here illegally, there is a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Things are changing a bit. This has cut seven play it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Are you planning on deporting American citizens?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Exactly not.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Look the view, it's like the misfit Toys. They don't
what the hell they're talking about. President Trump has made
a clear we will prioritize public safety threats and national
security threats first, and that's what the focus would be.
And there's over one point five convicted criminal aimens in
this country with final orders.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Removal that we're gonna be looking for.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
There's there's thousands of gang members, ill got gamers we're
gonna be looking for. Now, I'm gonna say, if you're
in the country illegally, you shouldn't feel comftable. Absolutely no,
I won't feel comfortable if I'm in the country illegally.
If if I'm in some other country legally, I'm not
gonna be comfortable. You shouldn't be comfortable with either, because
when you enter this country illegally, you have committed a crime.
You are a criminal, and you're not off the table.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
This is the attitude of law and order that you
needed somebody in this role. Now, notice that what he's
saying is, yeah, there's obviously going to be as there
always is in law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I mean, the way the left plays this game, it's oh,
they're gonna just take They're gonna grab the dreamers, and
they're gonna take the grandmas who have been here for
thirty years, and they're gonna drag them out of their homes. Well,
legally that may be possible in the future, though, we'll
deal with that. We'll deal with that the American people,
meaning we when we get to it. But you could
(23:07):
spend a tremendous amount of time, resources, and energy clay
for the next as I said, eighteen months to save
the country just dealing with real deal criminals, meaning people
who have done crimes here in addition to their illegality
or illegally arrived here and have serious convictions in their background.
You're talking about a big number of individuals in just
(23:29):
that category. And then if you want to add to it,
you could just take single adult males who have arrived
here in the last four years. You would be busy
with this the whole four years. But if you just
try to do that, it will dramatically change the crisis
of sovereignty that we're going through here.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Also, Buck is what I love.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
This is October twenty eighth, with sixty minutes. You know
what they're going to argue, Oh, you're going to separate family.
They didn't care about kids illegally crossing the border for
the last four years, often without their families being sex trafficked.
AOC and Company who were supposedly so angry about families
being separated. Tom Holman was asked about this on sixty minutes.
(24:16):
Cecilia Vega is the interviewer. I love this answer.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
This is cut eight. Flashback to sixty minutes, Tom Holman.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
We have seen one estimate that says it would cost
eighty eight billion dollars to deport a million people a year.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I don't know if it's accard or not.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Is that what American taxpayers should expect?
Speaker 6 (24:38):
What price do you put on national security?
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Is it worth it?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without
separating families of coursers.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Families can be deported together.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
That is a badass answer if you couldn't hear it.
She says, can you handle mass deportations without separating families?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He says, of course.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
There is pauses for a second and says families can
be deported together. This also, Buck ties in with what
I think is a fundamental issue that has to be rectified,
and that is this, We have to stop giving birthrights citizenship.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
If you come.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Into the country illegally, why in the world should you
be rewarded by your children becoming United States citizens. That
is a fundamental incentive structure that is not constitutional in
my mind, and it has to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And let me read this too, Buck. Bill Malugin said.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Border patrol and ice morale is surging following Trump's win
and the appointment of Tom Homan as borders are I'm
reading this from Bill Malugin. I reached out to a
handful of contacts to gauge the temperature. Sounds like night
and day. An ice officer said, it's a total one
point eighty. Troops are finally feeling like the sun is
(25:58):
coming out after a very long storm. People are fired up,
fired up to have support. It's amazing because we became
so numb. I don't think we realized how bad until
we finally have hope again. Everybody is saying that these
are quotes. You can go read them. Arizona Border Patrol
ecstatic to go to work, Morale higher than the first
(26:19):
time he won. Texas Border Patrol.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Dude.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
People who were going to retire are not. Everyone is
happy again. All these guys and gals are asking for
buck is the ability to do their job. And they
were so unable to do their job with Kamala Harrison
Joe Biden in office that some of them were thinking
about quitting because they were so depleted energy and morale wise,
(26:44):
based on the lack of security at the border. Now
Trump is coming back and he is implementing a policy,
and I got to say a lot of squishy people
out there have to say tough on this. Have a spine,
don't allow you know what's gonna happen. They're gonna find
the one error in deportation. It's gonna be the lead
(27:05):
story in the Washington Post and the New York Times.
They didn't care about all the illegals coming in. If
somehow there is an error in trying to track somebody down.
If there is an error in the way that the
process goes, it's going to be on the front page
of the newspapers. The media is going to be grilling everybody.
Steel spines here. You can't fix an awful problem without potentially.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It getting a little bit worse in the first place.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Right, Everybody who's ever dealt with anything, if you're trying
to rebuild a house, the beginning process of the rebuild
the house looks worse.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Than it does when it's finished. Right.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
You got to tear down a lot of stuff in
order to build it back up. The teardown is going
to be messy, but the end result is going to
be worth It. Got to have a steal spine. I
hope our politicians and our media are willing to acknowledge
what's required to fix the mess that Biden and comlic created.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
This is the big test of the trumpetman. We're gonna
get tax cuts, everybody. Yay, it's gonna be nice to
get tax Cut's gonna happen. Great, I want taxes. We're
gonna get new trade deals, yay, great trade deals.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Great. Fine.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
This is the defining battle of the Trump administration. We
already know what it's going to be. This is what
he ran on, this is what has been promised, this
is what they are setting up for. And if he
can't do it, it's never getting done. So we might
as well just say I forget it. Gonna gonna legalize
thirty million illegals, and you know who they're gonna vote
(28:34):
for the people who give them the most free stuff
taken from you, the American people.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So stakes are very high again.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Uh that's why I said last week, get out there,
enjoy the victory. You know, get some son on your face,
hug your family, high five your friends, and I know
all of you did, and that was absolutely the right
move because it's game time again. Gotta battle's coming. It's
got it's gonna happen, so get ready for it. And
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we have talkback. Let me hit a couple of these.
Paul in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I believe that's where Trump
finished his final rally, if I remember correctly, late late
on Monday night into Tuesday morning, Grand Rapids, Michigan, the
(33:20):
red state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Paul, what you got for us? So let's listen to this.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Hey, Clary Buck, I just want to let you know
that my family is all pretty much Democrat, and if
they were that bad towards me, I would probably just say, well,
that's I guess your choice. If you can't handle me
being who I am, I guess you don't love me anymore.
And it would be very sad to find that out,
but there'd be no skin off my nose because I,
(33:47):
unfortunately do not put up with the craziness anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah, look, Buck, I just I want to reiterate this.
Thanksgiving is the week after next right, We're about sixteen
days away from Thanksgiving if I'm doing my math right.
The idea that any of you would end lifelong relationships
over the election is so crazy to me that I
would just submit to you that while you might disagree politically,
(34:15):
don't give up your lifelong relationships, don't give up your
lifelong friendships. And I know many of you are not
making that choice, but I just non partisan basis. I mean,
I was upset when Joe Biden won. The idea that
I wouldn't go to Thanksgiving because somebody voted for Joe
Biden is crazy to me. Brian and Wooster Mass also
talking back with us.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Brian, what you got?
Speaker 7 (34:37):
It's Brian in Worcester, Mass. I'm just wondering if you
guys could bring up something about Trump pulling all of
these Republicans out of Congress to go into cabinet positions.
I mean, you guys were talking about how we lost
a lot as key Senate on that key, but Senate
seats that we could have got, and now the majority
that we do have, he's cannibalizing to put into the cabinet.
(34:59):
So what are your opinions on that?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Thanks, it's a fair question. Thank you for the talkback.
But this is the good news, is nothing to be
worried about. Let's say Mark Rubio become Secretary of State,
which we believe is going to happen, then he would
be replaced by Senator I'm sorry, by Governor DeSantis filling
that as a Senate seat until the next election, so
(35:22):
you'll have a Republican.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
In that seat.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
They're not pulling any Republican senators out of a purple
or a blue state for this kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
So it's nothing to.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Where there's a Democrat governor to your point, Buck, where
you're going to get an appointment that's going to change
the political calculus.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Now the House is going to be close.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
What it will mean is elections sooner rather than later,
depending on for instance, at least Stephonic going and becoming
ambassador to the UN her what I think is quite
reliably red seat. There will be a primary to figure
out who's going to be taking over that job, but
you shouldn't be concerned. They are not taking any Senate
(36:01):
seat away from Republicans so far as the cabinet is
being filled out. We'll give you the latest on this.
Our buddy Alex Bearnson, who is right on everything with COVID,
will be with us. We'll also talk some In the
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