November 13, 2024 • 36 mins
Kamala Harris on track to get 7M less votes than Biden. Buck won bet that Trump would get less than 25 percent of black male vote. Collapse of identity politics? Should Trump pardon Eric Adams, Hunter Biden, J6ers? Whoopi Goldberg and Sunny Hostin say they don't see Trump-voting family members on Thanksgiving. 80-year-old female caller laments the demise of real men.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast O.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hang out with us. News that
has broken since we started the show. John Thune is
going to be your Senate majority leader. Votes are still
not in from California. Buck, We're sitting here at eight
days and this morning when I checked, only seventy nine
(00:25):
percent of the votes were in.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But Trump has now gone to.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
A different level of support than any Republican has ever received.
As we are talking right now, he's approaching seventy six
million votes, seems likely to get seventy seven or seventy
eight million, somewhere in that range before the counting stops.
Can we talk about the fact that Kamala Harris is
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going to get seven million less votes than Joe Biden
did in twenty twenty. Anybody out there maybe wondering, Hey,
what happened that Kamala Harris is getting nowhere near the
vote tally that she got that Democrats got in twenty twenty.
I think maybe it's worth putting a pin in and
asking were they able to take advantage of COVID and
(01:13):
ballot harvest in a way that they have not been
able to do since COVID. I think that's the only
takeaway you can have as voting is going to be
down overall, I do want to give you credit, Buck,
and I believe we have some audio. The total black
mail vote appears to have come in under twenty five percent.
(01:37):
We did have at one point a bet over what
the total would be, and then Biden dropped. This is
a long running bet, and then Biden dropped out, and
then we had to reconsider and recontemplate. I think the
other two things that we're still outstanding was what's the
black vote going to be? And are we going to
end up with more or less votes in twenty twenty
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four than we had in twenty twenty looks like the
total number of votes is going to be down, but
according to some early reports, Buck, twenty one percent of
black men voted for Trump. Now there's been a varying
percentage tally here, but the crew wanted to make sure
that they grabbed this. So I before I'm out, Buckscott
(02:18):
solo show Thursday Friday. Before I head out, I wanted
to give Buck his flowers here if we could play.
The data is still a little bit uncertain in my defense,
but here is that discussion as it appears that it's
going to be either a little bit below somewhere below
twenty five percent.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Here's that discussion.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
One of the wagers, what would the percentage of the
black mail vote be for Trump? You think he gets
twenty five percent. That's what I said when he was
going against Biden.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Are you Are you.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Doubling down on this one or I have to allow
you to walk away because it's a different fighter now
in the ring.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I am going to I'm gonna double down.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
On WHOA Okay, Oh, I'm not as confident to take.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I'll take the other side of this one.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We'll make this a stake in twenty twenty five to
spread these out. I'll take I don't think Trump gets
twenty five percent of the black mail vote, Okay, so
the numbers right now are twenty one percent. I will
put just one star here.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Our friend Ryan Gerdusky has said we should wait for
the official Pew data because there are conflicting exit polls.
But you would be a favorite in the clubhouse right
now having posted a low score. If this were a
golf match. It doesn't look like it's gonna get to
twenty five did get over twenty though. Look, first of all,
(03:43):
I'm not even you know what I mean, I'm not
even feeling like this is some huge victory. I still
I still am strutting my stuff over the JD Vance
pick because nobody was saying that and I nailed that one.
And Avern's like JD Vance the future after Trump of Maga,
and I'm like, I told you, I told you Bud
on this one. Clay, Look, I think you get credit
for seeing the trajectory overall. I mean, yes, technically I
(04:04):
wasn't even gonna play that audio, but see, Clay.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Want to be audience.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yep, he's he's a betting man, So I gave him
a lot of credit for coming very close. And sure enough,
if it does break that twenty five percent, well then
you know, then I'll get Clay a steak. Probably be
in d C for Inauguration week. I think that's the
next time we'll be able to do some steak. So
there we go. So I'll let Clay buy me a
steak free at Shape Billy Suit, which is my favorite
bistro in Washington.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
D C.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But I would say this the overall this was actually
more of just my sense the overall black vote though,
because of black women I don't think move very much
at all, which was always my contention that the black
vote as a whole for Republicans. Every election cycle, we
get all excited because I want ninety percent of Black
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I mean, I want one hundred percent of Black Americans
voting Republican. But we get very excited. We think we're
going to do better with overall the black vote, and
and it just doesn't seem to materialize. So I think,
what did Trump get? Did he break double digits on
the overall black vote?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Was it eleven?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Saying?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think he gained black vote overall, But you're right
the reason it didn't explode very very small gain though
as a percentage. I mean we're talking the black male vote,
considerable the black female vote. Actually, I think Kamla did
better with than Biden. If you're breaking it up by gender,
I think you may well be right, which is why
the biggest takeaway to me of the Identity Politics coalition,
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black women are still strongly, almost uniformly voting for Democrats
everybody else. I think one of the lessons. I saw
this data and I thought it was really very striking,
and it makes arguing, oh, Trump's racist such an even
more difficult argument. This is the least racially polarized race
(05:53):
that we have had in the country in fifty years.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I'm surprised that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Again, if you want a pot positive, optimistic takeaway from
aside from Trump one and he's gonna win the most
votes ever for Republican, best win since eighty eight. But
if you were out there, I know we got a
massive amount. If you're out there listening in your Hispanic
or you're Black, or you're Asian, or you're white, whatever
your race is. While they have tried to tear us
(06:19):
all apart in the media by talking about white supremacy
and racist police officers and defund the police and everything else,
this is the least racially polarized election in fifty years.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I take that as a really really good sign for America.
And some of you who are history people will say, Okay,
what was going on back then? Remember black people voted
Republican in substantial numbers because Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves
for a long time, and really it was only in
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the wake of the civil rights movement that the black
vote moved overwhelmingly to the Democrat Party. So we're going
back in time to a really different era of America.
And I am cautiously optimistic that there are a lot
of American patriots out there, regardless of your skin color,
that have looked around and said, I want America to
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be great, and we can't do that if we're buying
into identity politics from the Democrat Party. So again, there
are lots of reasons to be optimistic. I told you
guys how optimistic I am about young men of all
races saving America in the generation ahead, because I think
they're going to be moving even more into the Republican camp.
(07:39):
And I'll give you another story on this buck. Anecdotes
are not evidence of the truth, right, but they can
be a way to examine larger cultural trends.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And that's what I try to do when I use
an anecdote. About a year ago, maybe it was two years.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Ago, I was walking into Target and one of my
sons walking through and he said, Dad, there are girl
power shirts everywhere in Target. I said, yeah, you know,
that's right, Like there's lots of girl power. Yay girls,
everything that Target was selling. He said, how come there
are never any boy power shirts? And you know, I
(08:19):
again had never really thought about it, but I think
there are a lot of young men. If you're a
boy mom out there, if you've got grandsons, there are
a lot of young boys that are growing up now
and they're saying they're twelve years old and they're being
told that men are the problem in America, and they're
looking around and saying, what's wrong with being a boy,
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what's wrong with growing up and being a man. We
have created this whole girl power yay universe over I
would say, the last twenty or so years, and that's great.
Girls should be able to grow up and be wildly
successful in this country. But you don't have to tear
down boys to elevate girls. And I think a lot
of boys all over America, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic feel
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like in school that they are being not treated fairly
and that girls have been elevated above them. And this
is something that I think if you're forty my age,
you don't really think about as much. If you're sixty,
you probably don't think about as much. But I'm telling you,
these young boys out there these kids that are let's
(09:27):
say eight to twenty, this is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
In their world.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And I think what you saw, Buck, was a lot
of young men saying, hey, I'm voting Republican because we're
failing a lot and we're tearing down men and young
boys in an effort to elevate girls. And that's just
not right. And if you look at the data, Buck,
sixty percent of all college grads are female. Now men
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are not graduating from college, taking ap courses, having as
much success as women. Remember, this is what I was
saying that exact you know, data set. I started talking
about it on Bill Maher and the Democrat guest next
to me was like, how dare you we talk about
the troubles of men?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And I looked at her.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I said, well, this is why Kamala's going to lose.
And I'm not saying I'm a prophet, although maybe i am.
It was very obvious that this is what was going on.
There's something rotten in the ideology of a Democrat party,
or there's a lot of things that are rotten, but
there's something rotten specifically on the issue of men and masculinity.
And I'm just going to say within the black and
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Latino community of men.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yes, they don't.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
They don't have to sit there and get lectured to
the same way on some of these issues as white
liberals will do to other white liberals.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
There's a little more of like excuse me, Like I'm
not going to sit here and have some progressive software
designer from San Francisco who's making four hundred thousand dollars
a year tell me, as a black men living in
the South, tell me, as a Latino man living in
South Florida or Texas, that my daughter can have men
smashing the volleyball in her face.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's there's a dynamic there where they're just they just
don't want to hear it. And the Democrats didn't figure
this out, and they can't morally blackmail their own minority
mail communities the where they can other white liberals, which
is what's going on. And this also is a function
of it starts off as white men are evil, which
is where they started in their identity politics coalition, but
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soon it moves into masculinity itself is toxic and that's
why this ad buck she's for they them, he's for
us that if you watch a football game, that thing
was on. It felt like every commercial break. And what's
interesting about this buck to me is you know who
that ad did so well with? Black men, Hispanic men,
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white moms in the suburbs tested off the charts with
that group. How often do you hit black men, Hispanic men,
and white moms in the suburbs with an ad that
speaks to them so well. It's because a lot of
white women who have children saw that and said, I
don't want my girls having to play against boys. I
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don't want men in their locker rooms. And it's universal.
I think of how things are lost, and I hear
from a lot of moms now they're not worried about
their girls. You know, they try to turn abortion into
the issue. Girls are dominating in higher education, girls are
dominating in high school. I think what a lot of
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people are recognizing is actually boys are the ones that
we tore down to elevate girls. And men feel it.
Young boys feel it. I don't know that they verbalize
it very much, but they verbalized it in terms of
the vote when they showed up in record numbers last week.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Not to keep reference good Bill Marthy.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But I just think it's funny because we did touch
on some of these issues right before the election. Of
the election showed how important was Clay. Remember they asked me,
you know, Bill said, in masculinity, uh, you know, there
are good traits to masculinity, and I said, yeah, you know, courage, strength,
risk taking. And sure enough, Democrats on the panel, are
you saying women can't And this is the this is
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the mania from the left that masculinity cannot have anything
good that is notably masculine, and therefore masculinity has to
be a collection of toxic, negative traits. They have no
way around this. They don't understand that men and women
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can both be successful innately in their sex without it
being a power struggle, because everything in their world is
the oppression Olympics in D's gender Marxism. It's like race Marxism.
Everything is your group is oppressing my group, and my
group needs to be we're victims, so then we get
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to oppress your group because of what you victimize that
I mean this it is a recipe for the implosion
of society. And fortunately, by a nice solid majority, the
American people said, nah, we're not in on that and
not just one group the least racially polarized electorate in
(14:24):
fifty years. Lots of good people of all different backgrounds
said enough.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You know the other thing is too clay.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That did Left spend so much time talking about how racist.
First of all, the sexism thing Trump won. I think
he won all married women across the board. I think
he won a majority of white women across the board
get married, unmarried. So the sexism thing is just this
is just trash from feminists who were unhappy and made.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Bad life choices. Just put that aside.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But on the race thing, every Republican I know, I'm sorry,
I know I'm running over time here, but it's really
I feel very passionately about this because this has been
since I was sixteen years old. This has been sort
of an errator that's out there. Every Republican that I
know is so happy and so enthused about more of
the black vote being Republican, more of Let's univote being Republican,
(15:12):
more of the Asian vote being Republican. This notion that
we wanted to be some white monolith party is just
the biggest lie of all. I agree, It's a massive, massive,
nasty lie. That I think Americans are rejecting. When I
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
Play. We've got a lot to dive into coming up here.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And want to talk about what Eric Adams said about
illegals in New York City. Now, Clay went on Fox
News last night and said that he thinks that Trump,
when he becomes resident, should pardon Eric Adams. I wholeheartedly agree.
I believe very strongly that Eric Adams. It's not that
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he didn't do the things they said he did, but
what he did is like nonsense, It's not like a
real crime. But Clay, I think he lost his Democrat
shield of invincibility because he spoke truthfully about what was
going on with the migrants. It was a major issue
in this election. I totally agree with you, and Trump
will build political capital to do the right things about
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immigration with things like pardoning Eric Adams.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I think Eric Adams wants to work with Trump to
solve the migrant crisis in New York City, and I
think that would further the likelihood of it happening. It's
both politically beneficial and also the right choice because what
he's charged with is complete garbage based on politics. Look,
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(17:57):
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
The argument that I made on Hannity last night, and
that i'd made on this show and you agree with
it is somewhat controversial. Some people out there are saying, hey,
I don't want there to be any pardons at all.
I want Hunter Biden going to prison forever. I don't
want to give Eric Adams any benefit of the doubt.
(19:24):
I understand that argument. I just think it's wrong. I
want every January sixth political prisoner out of jail and pardoned.
Maybe a small number of them who actually engaged in
direct violent acts you can leave out of that absolution
(19:45):
that clemency. But even for those, I would argue, most
of those people have been charged with crimes far exceeding
what an average person engaging in an act of violence
would have based That's my general position. Again, I haven't
looked at every one of these potential pardons, but I
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think on Eric Adams, he was targeted because he spoke
out against the migrant issue. I really believe that that's
not coincidental, and I think on Hunter Biden, it actually
sends an important message that Trump recognizes that they violated
two hundred and fifty years of historic norms, and he
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is fighting to put back in place the norms that
existed for two hundred and fifty years for a reason. Now,
I understand those of you out there who say, no,
I want a pound of flesh. I want retributative justice.
In other words, I want done to them what was
done to us. But I think Trump stands to benefit
(20:54):
immensely if he stands on principle over politics, and with
that in mind, I want to play a couple of cuts.
The left is not going to get more sane. They
are getting further insane. I think there's a large percentage
of the American public that is still persuadable. Two different
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hosts on the View have now said you shouldn't do
Thanksgiving if your relatives voted for Trump. Here is Whoope Goldberg.
I believe this is cut twenty four, and then we'll
also play for you, Sonny Hostin.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I want you to listen to both.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Somebody who tells me that my child is wrong because
of how he.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Or she feels.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That tells me that they shouldn't be allowed to be
who they are with my permission.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I have to question it.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I don't want to put my pid in that position, Zah.
I don't want to put my gay child in a
position where she has to sit with someone who doesn't
understand her.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Feels like it's okay to just blurt all that out.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That's just me, But I feel like that with mixed
with mixed families. With mixed families, I feel the same way. Yeah,
you know, there are certain things where you don't have
to put your family in the middle of it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I buck I don't even understand the figment in their
world that they have built.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
First of all, nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I I don't think there are that many Trump supporters
that are really fired up about somebody who's an adult
being gay. I think, as a parent, the idea because
she hinted at this, but she didn't say it. The
idea that because you're eleven year old thinks that they
might be a boy or girl different than their actual gender,
you should treat it as the biological reality is crazy
(22:47):
to me, and so a lot of these arguments that
they're making, they're not even making honestly, Because if you're
over eighteen and you decide you want to spend a
lot of money of your own money, if you have
it to change your gender, I think it's unlikely to
make you a lot happier personally. I think that it
is unlikely to do much to change your overall independent
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mental health. But if you're an adult, I'm not opposed
to you doing it. If you're a child, we're going
to give you puberty blockers and we're going to take
your breast and remove them. I mean, this is crazy stuff.
Sonny Hostin buck Let's also listen to this Sonny Hostin
basically saying the same thing. It's important for you to
understand what people on the left are saying, and understand
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also that the vast majority of Americans disagree with them.
But here's Sonny Houston, who Bobby Barrackett out Kit called
the most despicable woman on television on a daily basis.
I'm roughly quoting him. I think he's right. Here's what
she said.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I completely understand her point because I really do feel
that this candidate, you know, President Electrump is just a
different type of candidate from the things he's said and
the things he's done and the things he will do.
It's more of a moral issue for me, and I
think it's more of a moral issue for other people.
We're just you know, I would say it was different
(24:04):
when let's say.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Bush got elected.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You know, you may not have agreed with his policies,
but you didn't feel like he was a deeply flawed person,
deeply flawed by character, deeply flawed in morality.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Okay, I mean there is a huge opportunity here.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Democrats have not looked in the mirror buck and said, hey,
you know what, our opinions and our perspectives have been
overwhelmingly rejected by the American public. Maybe we need to
recalibrate and reconsider a lot of the things that we're
putting into the public arena. If anything, the left in
this country has become even crazier and almost no one
(24:46):
is standing up to them. And I think they have
now opened up. And you already saw this in the
early voting tallies. As we've looked at the data, I
think they've opened up an opportunity, and you can flag this.
I think they've opened up an opportunity where Trump could
make a run at sixty percent approval plus in this country,
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because I think there are a lot of people who
may not have voted for him that are going to
start to see his policies work, and they are going
to start to say, you know what we've been lied to.
If he can be smart and strategic in the way
that he implements his policy, I think they are opening
up an opportunity for him not just to have a majority,
but for him to have a substantial majority of people
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approving of him in this country.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Am I crazy?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Or do you think the way the left has responded
to his election has created this this opening for him. Look,
there's an opening for competency and for things to go
as well as possible. I think here and I'm very
optimistic about the future with Trump. The problem play is
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the first three years of the Trump presidency, by the numbers,
I mean, pre COVID was and by the way, the
numbers during COVID were actually really good too. This is
a whole other thing we don't ever talk about. This
stock market went into a boom. Now a lot of
government spending six seven trillion dollars, inflation kicks up under Biden.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But when Trump was able to run the country without
the fear of like a human race ending pandemic, things
were great, and they became a nihacle on the issue
of Russia collusion. It was a figment of their imagination.
I just can't forget that, you.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You know, we would like to think, come on, guys,
you said he's Hitler.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He's not Hitler. He just won a mandate. Things are
looking great.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Or I know they say, oh, it's not a mandate,
it's only fifty one percent of the country. Well, it's
a clear victory, so whatever you want to call that.
And we'd like to think that results would be results
would move the needle in terms of support. I think
for forty five to maybe forty eight percent of the country, Clay,
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they're Democrats no matter what, I worry. I think there's
more person Now. If Trump came to you, Buck and
he said, what do you think I should do with
Hunter Biden? You agree with me on Eric Adams, you
agree with me on jan sixth? Would you pardon Hunter Biden?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
If you were Trump?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Here's what I should mean that Joe doesn't do it
by the way. So here's the problem. We'll do it
is Joe is going to pardon Hunter full stop. So
that's why people.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Who say don't say that, oh Hunter, he's the deep State.
He should get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'm like, guys, there's no world in which Hunter Biden
spends a day in prison. I've said that all along.
No world in which Hunter Biden's going to spend a
day in prison. So this's not happening.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Okay, So the only.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Question is whether Trump pardons him or Biden pardons him. Okay,
that's it. He's getting a pardon. If you don't see that,
you're just wrong. Let's tell you he's not going to prison.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Trump coming forward and saying that he would pardon him,
this is how I think about it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Creates a sense of.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Magnanimity from Trump that I think would be helpful in
a variety of respects, especially if he could get Joe
Biden to you know, even if he comes forward and
says I would do it, and then Biden does it,
he could say, look, you know, you know Joe, I
there could be a little more coming together.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Of those two before.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
The end of Biden's term, and this will be helpful
for when Trump comes in and pardons every non violent jasic.
If you didn't punch a cop in the face, you
should you know, or something like that, you should not
be serving a prison sentence for January sixth. You know,
these all these defenders we're talking about, and then and
(28:32):
then don't think and then if you should be commuted,
the DOJ should look at what federal assault of a
of a federal officer, how that was, how was that
treated in Oregon when Trump sent police officers there to
Portland and there were Antifa lunatics attacking them, throwing bottles
at them. Okay, if they got six months, then they
(28:52):
should serve six months. I believe in rule of law.
I believe in a long order. If somebody got five
years commuted, commute it down. They've you know, to time served.
End of discussion. That's what I think should happen here.
So nonviolent you're free, you're pardoned. Violent it should be
commuted down substantially. And then there's a conversation though, of well,
(29:13):
if they're basically at the end of their time service,
should they be pardoned as well? Just because they have
all their rights taken away? Did other people get all
their rights taken away were they convicted a felony. So
I want parody, which is another way Clay of saying
I want justice.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I think that's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
And I think if he just does jan six, he's
creating a political capital issue that can be alleviated in
a substantial way Zach does, Eric Adams and Hunter Biden.
I think it's smart strategically as well as being I
think an important message about hey, we don't try to
imprison our political adversaries, which was standard American operating procedure
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Coming up in the third hour.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Here, we're gonna look back at the dream team that
Trump is assembling for his cabinet. More updates on that
we haven't even discussed. Really the Veke and Elon teamed
up together. Uh you know this, this is like going
at the very top of the IQ scale, which I
love to see to handle a very complicated problem which
(32:19):
is raining in the craziness of government spending and inefficiency,
really inefficiencies within the government. Elon, who fired eighty percent
of Twitter and X I believe is better than Twitter
has ever been. Yeah, he's the right guy for the
job and Viveke. Well, I mean Viveke is Vivike. He's
super smart, built a company and has done.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Very very well for himself. We will get to all
that coming up here in a moment. We got some
good calls. Clay. Wait, I don't think we talked about
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Bobby is from Birmingham, Alabama. Bobby, we hear your your
eighty two. Congrats, Hey, my friend on all the life
wisdom you have acquired.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I've live through a lot of elections and I've seen
a lot of stuff and h Joy Read is joy
List and Sonny is one bit Sonny. Anyway, I won't
to I love all of Trump's pig I don't know
if y'all know, but he can pick jd Vance as
(34:48):
the Senate leader to replace mcconnells. That would he would,
He would do a great job. But let me go
on to talking about these liberal women. These liberal women
have totally emasculated men. And I want a real man.
I don't want a wish and I don't want to
be the man, you know what I mean. But all
(35:09):
these liberal women they want to be the man. They
want to be in control of everything, and they really
don't do a good job. I mean, I've worked all
my life up until I was seventy three at different professions,
and I've worked very, very hard because I was raised
to work hard. But these women have done a way
(35:32):
with real masculine men.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I don't know, Bobby, you think.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
About it, Bobby, we love the wisdom delivered with southern charm.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Thank you so much. Totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
She's one hundred percent right, Buck, And Bobby sounds like
every woman that was a mom when I was a
kid growing up, when you just heard of you live
in any other part of the country, every Southern man
around my age. Bobby sounds exactly like our teachers, exactly
(36:04):
like our moms, exactly like our grandmas. And we need
a lot more Bobby's. And you know what the irony is, Buck,
left women, left wing women, do you know who they
actually marry? Guys like jd Vance, high earning, highly educated,
highly successful. They don't even want what they claim in public.
(36:27):
They want remember one of the big lessons. Once you
see it, you'll never miss it. A lot of people
talk left and live right. It defines the left wing
in this country. They live like their right wingers.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast O.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hang out with us. News that
has broken since we started the show. John Thune is
going to be your Senate majority leader. Votes are still
not in from California. Buck, We're sitting here at eight
days and this morning when I checked, only seventy nine
(00:25):
percent of the votes were in.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But Trump has now gone to.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
A different level of support than any Republican has ever received.
As we are talking right now, he's approaching seventy six
million votes, seems likely to get seventy seven or seventy
eight million, somewhere in that range before the counting stops.
Can we talk about the fact that Kamala Harris is
(00:49):
going to get seven million less votes than Joe Biden
did in twenty twenty. Anybody out there maybe wondering, Hey,
what happened that Kamala Harris is getting nowhere near the
vote tally that she got that Democrats got in twenty twenty.
I think maybe it's worth putting a pin in and
asking were they able to take advantage of COVID and
(01:13):
ballot harvest in a way that they have not been
able to do since COVID. I think that's the only
takeaway you can have as voting is going to be
down overall, I do want to give you credit, Buck,
and I believe we have some audio. The total black
mail vote appears to have come in under twenty five percent.
(01:37):
We did have at one point a bet over what
the total would be, and then Biden dropped. This is
a long running bet, and then Biden dropped out, and
then we had to reconsider and recontemplate. I think the
other two things that we're still outstanding was what's the
black vote going to be? And are we going to
end up with more or less votes in twenty twenty
(01:57):
four than we had in twenty twenty looks like the
total number of votes is going to be down, but
according to some early reports, Buck, twenty one percent of
black men voted for Trump. Now there's been a varying
percentage tally here, but the crew wanted to make sure
that they grabbed this. So I before I'm out, Buckscott
(02:18):
solo show Thursday Friday. Before I head out, I wanted
to give Buck his flowers here if we could play.
The data is still a little bit uncertain in my defense,
but here is that discussion as it appears that it's
going to be either a little bit below somewhere below
twenty five percent.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Here's that discussion.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
One of the wagers, what would the percentage of the
black mail vote be for Trump? You think he gets
twenty five percent. That's what I said when he was
going against Biden.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Are you Are you.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Doubling down on this one or I have to allow
you to walk away because it's a different fighter now
in the ring.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I am going to I'm gonna double down.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
On WHOA Okay, Oh, I'm not as confident to take.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I'll take the other side of this one.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We'll make this a stake in twenty twenty five to
spread these out. I'll take I don't think Trump gets
twenty five percent of the black mail vote, Okay, so
the numbers right now are twenty one percent. I will
put just one star here.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Our friend Ryan Gerdusky has said we should wait for
the official Pew data because there are conflicting exit polls.
But you would be a favorite in the clubhouse right
now having posted a low score. If this were a
golf match. It doesn't look like it's gonna get to
twenty five did get over twenty though. Look, first of all,
(03:43):
I'm not even you know what I mean, I'm not
even feeling like this is some huge victory. I still
I still am strutting my stuff over the JD Vance
pick because nobody was saying that and I nailed that one.
And Avern's like JD Vance the future after Trump of Maga,
and I'm like, I told you, I told you Bud
on this one. Clay, Look, I think you get credit
for seeing the trajectory overall. I mean, yes, technically I
(04:04):
wasn't even gonna play that audio, but see, Clay.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Want to be audience.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yep, he's he's a betting man, So I gave him
a lot of credit for coming very close. And sure enough,
if it does break that twenty five percent, well then
you know, then I'll get Clay a steak. Probably be
in d C for Inauguration week. I think that's the
next time we'll be able to do some steak. So
there we go. So I'll let Clay buy me a
steak free at Shape Billy Suit, which is my favorite
bistro in Washington.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
D C.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But I would say this the overall this was actually
more of just my sense the overall black vote though,
because of black women I don't think move very much
at all, which was always my contention that the black
vote as a whole for Republicans. Every election cycle, we
get all excited because I want ninety percent of Black
(04:52):
I mean, I want one hundred percent of Black Americans
voting Republican. But we get very excited. We think we're
going to do better with overall the black vote, and
and it just doesn't seem to materialize. So I think,
what did Trump get? Did he break double digits on
the overall black vote?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Was it eleven?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Saying?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think he gained black vote overall, But you're right
the reason it didn't explode very very small gain though
as a percentage. I mean we're talking the black male vote,
considerable the black female vote. Actually, I think Kamla did
better with than Biden. If you're breaking it up by gender,
I think you may well be right, which is why
the biggest takeaway to me of the Identity Politics coalition,
(05:32):
black women are still strongly, almost uniformly voting for Democrats
everybody else. I think one of the lessons. I saw
this data and I thought it was really very striking,
and it makes arguing, oh, Trump's racist such an even
more difficult argument. This is the least racially polarized race
(05:53):
that we have had in the country in fifty years.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I'm surprised that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Again, if you want a pot positive, optimistic takeaway from
aside from Trump one and he's gonna win the most
votes ever for Republican, best win since eighty eight. But
if you were out there, I know we got a
massive amount. If you're out there listening in your Hispanic
or you're Black, or you're Asian, or you're white, whatever
your race is. While they have tried to tear us
(06:19):
all apart in the media by talking about white supremacy
and racist police officers and defund the police and everything else,
this is the least racially polarized election in fifty years.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I take that as a really really good sign for America.
And some of you who are history people will say, Okay,
what was going on back then? Remember black people voted
Republican in substantial numbers because Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves
for a long time, and really it was only in
(06:56):
the wake of the civil rights movement that the black
vote moved overwhelmingly to the Democrat Party. So we're going
back in time to a really different era of America.
And I am cautiously optimistic that there are a lot
of American patriots out there, regardless of your skin color,
that have looked around and said, I want America to
(07:18):
be great, and we can't do that if we're buying
into identity politics from the Democrat Party. So again, there
are lots of reasons to be optimistic. I told you
guys how optimistic I am about young men of all
races saving America in the generation ahead, because I think
they're going to be moving even more into the Republican camp.
(07:39):
And I'll give you another story on this buck. Anecdotes
are not evidence of the truth, right, but they can
be a way to examine larger cultural trends.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And that's what I try to do when I use
an anecdote. About a year ago, maybe it was two years.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Ago, I was walking into Target and one of my
sons walking through and he said, Dad, there are girl
power shirts everywhere in Target. I said, yeah, you know,
that's right, Like there's lots of girl power. Yay girls,
everything that Target was selling. He said, how come there
are never any boy power shirts? And you know, I
(08:19):
again had never really thought about it, but I think
there are a lot of young men. If you're a
boy mom out there, if you've got grandsons, there are
a lot of young boys that are growing up now
and they're saying they're twelve years old and they're being
told that men are the problem in America, and they're
looking around and saying, what's wrong with being a boy,
(08:42):
what's wrong with growing up and being a man. We
have created this whole girl power yay universe over I
would say, the last twenty or so years, and that's great.
Girls should be able to grow up and be wildly
successful in this country. But you don't have to tear
down boys to elevate girls. And I think a lot
of boys all over America, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic feel
(09:06):
like in school that they are being not treated fairly
and that girls have been elevated above them. And this
is something that I think if you're forty my age,
you don't really think about as much. If you're sixty,
you probably don't think about as much. But I'm telling you,
these young boys out there these kids that are let's
(09:27):
say eight to twenty, this is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
In their world.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And I think what you saw, Buck, was a lot
of young men saying, hey, I'm voting Republican because we're
failing a lot and we're tearing down men and young
boys in an effort to elevate girls. And that's just
not right. And if you look at the data, Buck,
sixty percent of all college grads are female. Now men
(09:54):
are not graduating from college, taking ap courses, having as
much success as women. Remember, this is what I was
saying that exact you know, data set. I started talking
about it on Bill Maher and the Democrat guest next
to me was like, how dare you we talk about
the troubles of men?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And I looked at her.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I said, well, this is why Kamala's going to lose.
And I'm not saying I'm a prophet, although maybe i am.
It was very obvious that this is what was going on.
There's something rotten in the ideology of a Democrat party,
or there's a lot of things that are rotten, but
there's something rotten specifically on the issue of men and masculinity.
And I'm just going to say within the black and
(10:31):
Latino community of men.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yes, they don't.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
They don't have to sit there and get lectured to
the same way on some of these issues as white
liberals will do to other white liberals.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
There's a little more of like excuse me, Like I'm
not going to sit here and have some progressive software
designer from San Francisco who's making four hundred thousand dollars
a year tell me, as a black men living in
the South, tell me, as a Latino man living in
South Florida or Texas, that my daughter can have men
smashing the volleyball in her face.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's there's a dynamic there where they're just they just
don't want to hear it. And the Democrats didn't figure
this out, and they can't morally blackmail their own minority
mail communities the where they can other white liberals, which
is what's going on. And this also is a function
of it starts off as white men are evil, which
is where they started in their identity politics coalition, but
(11:32):
soon it moves into masculinity itself is toxic and that's
why this ad buck she's for they them, he's for
us that if you watch a football game, that thing
was on. It felt like every commercial break. And what's
interesting about this buck to me is you know who
that ad did so well with? Black men, Hispanic men,
(11:56):
white moms in the suburbs tested off the charts with
that group. How often do you hit black men, Hispanic men,
and white moms in the suburbs with an ad that
speaks to them so well. It's because a lot of
white women who have children saw that and said, I
don't want my girls having to play against boys. I
(12:19):
don't want men in their locker rooms. And it's universal.
I think of how things are lost, and I hear
from a lot of moms now they're not worried about
their girls. You know, they try to turn abortion into
the issue. Girls are dominating in higher education, girls are
dominating in high school. I think what a lot of
(12:39):
people are recognizing is actually boys are the ones that
we tore down to elevate girls. And men feel it.
Young boys feel it. I don't know that they verbalize
it very much, but they verbalized it in terms of
the vote when they showed up in record numbers last week.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Not to keep reference good Bill Marthy.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But I just think it's funny because we did touch
on some of these issues right before the election. Of
the election showed how important was Clay. Remember they asked me,
you know, Bill said, in masculinity, uh, you know, there
are good traits to masculinity, and I said, yeah, you know, courage, strength,
risk taking. And sure enough, Democrats on the panel, are
you saying women can't And this is the this is
(13:22):
the mania from the left that masculinity cannot have anything
good that is notably masculine, and therefore masculinity has to
be a collection of toxic, negative traits. They have no
way around this. They don't understand that men and women
(13:43):
can both be successful innately in their sex without it
being a power struggle, because everything in their world is
the oppression Olympics in D's gender Marxism. It's like race Marxism.
Everything is your group is oppressing my group, and my
group needs to be we're victims, so then we get
(14:04):
to oppress your group because of what you victimize that
I mean this it is a recipe for the implosion
of society. And fortunately, by a nice solid majority, the
American people said, nah, we're not in on that and
not just one group the least racially polarized electorate in
(14:24):
fifty years. Lots of good people of all different backgrounds
said enough.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You know the other thing is too clay.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That did Left spend so much time talking about how racist.
First of all, the sexism thing Trump won. I think
he won all married women across the board. I think
he won a majority of white women across the board
get married, unmarried. So the sexism thing is just this
is just trash from feminists who were unhappy and made.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Bad life choices. Just put that aside.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But on the race thing, every Republican I know, I'm sorry,
I know I'm running over time here, but it's really
I feel very passionately about this because this has been
since I was sixteen years old. This has been sort
of an errator that's out there. Every Republican that I
know is so happy and so enthused about more of
the black vote being Republican, more of Let's univote being Republican,
(15:12):
more of the Asian vote being Republican. This notion that
we wanted to be some white monolith party is just
the biggest lie of all. I agree, It's a massive, massive,
nasty lie. That I think Americans are rejecting. When I
see these data points, I get really happy and optimistic
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
Play. We've got a lot to dive into coming up here.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And want to talk about what Eric Adams said about
illegals in New York City. Now, Clay went on Fox
News last night and said that he thinks that Trump,
when he becomes resident, should pardon Eric Adams. I wholeheartedly agree.
I believe very strongly that Eric Adams. It's not that
(17:11):
he didn't do the things they said he did, but
what he did is like nonsense, It's not like a
real crime. But Clay, I think he lost his Democrat
shield of invincibility because he spoke truthfully about what was
going on with the migrants. It was a major issue
in this election. I totally agree with you, and Trump
will build political capital to do the right things about
(17:31):
immigration with things like pardoning Eric Adams.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I think Eric Adams wants to work with Trump to
solve the migrant crisis in New York City, and I
think that would further the likelihood of it happening. It's
both politically beneficial and also the right choice because what
he's charged with is complete garbage based on politics. Look,
I'm a pretty good shot. I mean I'm not good
like some of you. It's amazing, Clay. Every time I
(17:57):
posted to be video, everyone all of a sudden is
like a marksmanship expert. I'm like, I don't know, guys.
I've fired like tens of thousands of rounds down range.
I've trained with a lot of guns. Like, I'm not
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
The argument that I made on Hannity last night, and
that i'd made on this show and you agree with
it is somewhat controversial. Some people out there are saying, hey,
I don't want there to be any pardons at all.
I want Hunter Biden going to prison forever. I don't
want to give Eric Adams any benefit of the doubt.
(19:24):
I understand that argument. I just think it's wrong. I
want every January sixth political prisoner out of jail and pardoned.
Maybe a small number of them who actually engaged in
direct violent acts you can leave out of that absolution
(19:45):
that clemency. But even for those, I would argue, most
of those people have been charged with crimes far exceeding
what an average person engaging in an act of violence
would have based That's my general position. Again, I haven't
looked at every one of these potential pardons, but I
(20:09):
think on Eric Adams, he was targeted because he spoke
out against the migrant issue. I really believe that that's
not coincidental, and I think on Hunter Biden, it actually
sends an important message that Trump recognizes that they violated
two hundred and fifty years of historic norms, and he
(20:30):
is fighting to put back in place the norms that
existed for two hundred and fifty years for a reason. Now,
I understand those of you out there who say, no,
I want a pound of flesh. I want retributative justice.
In other words, I want done to them what was
done to us. But I think Trump stands to benefit
(20:54):
immensely if he stands on principle over politics, and with
that in mind, I want to play a couple of cuts.
The left is not going to get more sane. They
are getting further insane. I think there's a large percentage
of the American public that is still persuadable. Two different
(21:18):
hosts on the View have now said you shouldn't do
Thanksgiving if your relatives voted for Trump. Here is Whoope Goldberg.
I believe this is cut twenty four, and then we'll
also play for you, Sonny Hostin.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I want you to listen to both.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Somebody who tells me that my child is wrong because
of how he.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Or she feels.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That tells me that they shouldn't be allowed to be
who they are with my permission.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I have to question it.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I don't want to put my pid in that position, Zah.
I don't want to put my gay child in a
position where she has to sit with someone who doesn't
understand her.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Feels like it's okay to just blurt all that out.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That's just me, But I feel like that with mixed
with mixed families. With mixed families, I feel the same way. Yeah,
you know, there are certain things where you don't have
to put your family in the middle of it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I buck I don't even understand the figment in their
world that they have built.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
First of all, nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I I don't think there are that many Trump supporters
that are really fired up about somebody who's an adult
being gay. I think, as a parent, the idea because
she hinted at this, but she didn't say it. The
idea that because you're eleven year old thinks that they
might be a boy or girl different than their actual gender,
you should treat it as the biological reality is crazy
(22:47):
to me, and so a lot of these arguments that
they're making, they're not even making honestly, Because if you're
over eighteen and you decide you want to spend a
lot of money of your own money, if you have
it to change your gender, I think it's unlikely to
make you a lot happier personally. I think that it
is unlikely to do much to change your overall independent
(23:09):
mental health. But if you're an adult, I'm not opposed
to you doing it. If you're a child, we're going
to give you puberty blockers and we're going to take
your breast and remove them. I mean, this is crazy stuff.
Sonny Hostin buck Let's also listen to this Sonny Hostin
basically saying the same thing. It's important for you to
understand what people on the left are saying, and understand
(23:32):
also that the vast majority of Americans disagree with them.
But here's Sonny Houston, who Bobby Barrackett out Kit called
the most despicable woman on television on a daily basis.
I'm roughly quoting him. I think he's right. Here's what
she said.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I completely understand her point because I really do feel
that this candidate, you know, President Electrump is just a
different type of candidate from the things he's said and
the things he's done and the things he will do.
It's more of a moral issue for me, and I
think it's more of a moral issue for other people.
We're just you know, I would say it was different
(24:04):
when let's say.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Bush got elected.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You know, you may not have agreed with his policies,
but you didn't feel like he was a deeply flawed person,
deeply flawed by character, deeply flawed in morality.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Okay, I mean there is a huge opportunity here.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Democrats have not looked in the mirror buck and said, hey,
you know what, our opinions and our perspectives have been
overwhelmingly rejected by the American public. Maybe we need to
recalibrate and reconsider a lot of the things that we're
putting into the public arena. If anything, the left in
this country has become even crazier and almost no one
(24:46):
is standing up to them. And I think they have
now opened up. And you already saw this in the
early voting tallies. As we've looked at the data, I
think they've opened up an opportunity, and you can flag this.
I think they've opened up an opportunity where Trump could
make a run at sixty percent approval plus in this country,
(25:08):
because I think there are a lot of people who
may not have voted for him that are going to
start to see his policies work, and they are going
to start to say, you know what we've been lied to.
If he can be smart and strategic in the way
that he implements his policy, I think they are opening
up an opportunity for him not just to have a majority,
but for him to have a substantial majority of people
(25:31):
approving of him in this country.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Am I crazy?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Or do you think the way the left has responded
to his election has created this this opening for him. Look,
there's an opening for competency and for things to go
as well as possible. I think here and I'm very
optimistic about the future with Trump. The problem play is
(25:53):
the first three years of the Trump presidency, by the numbers,
I mean, pre COVID was and by the way, the
numbers during COVID were actually really good too. This is
a whole other thing we don't ever talk about. This
stock market went into a boom. Now a lot of
government spending six seven trillion dollars, inflation kicks up under Biden.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But when Trump was able to run the country without
the fear of like a human race ending pandemic, things
were great, and they became a nihacle on the issue
of Russia collusion. It was a figment of their imagination.
I just can't forget that, you.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You know, we would like to think, come on, guys,
you said he's Hitler.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He's not Hitler. He just won a mandate. Things are
looking great.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Or I know they say, oh, it's not a mandate,
it's only fifty one percent of the country. Well, it's
a clear victory, so whatever you want to call that.
And we'd like to think that results would be results
would move the needle in terms of support. I think
for forty five to maybe forty eight percent of the country, Clay,
(26:56):
they're Democrats no matter what, I worry. I think there's
more person Now. If Trump came to you, Buck and
he said, what do you think I should do with
Hunter Biden? You agree with me on Eric Adams, you
agree with me on jan sixth? Would you pardon Hunter Biden?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
If you were Trump?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Here's what I should mean that Joe doesn't do it
by the way. So here's the problem. We'll do it
is Joe is going to pardon Hunter full stop. So
that's why people.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Who say don't say that, oh Hunter, he's the deep State.
He should get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'm like, guys, there's no world in which Hunter Biden
spends a day in prison. I've said that all along.
No world in which Hunter Biden's going to spend a
day in prison. So this's not happening.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Okay, So the only.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Question is whether Trump pardons him or Biden pardons him. Okay,
that's it. He's getting a pardon. If you don't see that,
you're just wrong. Let's tell you he's not going to prison.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Trump coming forward and saying that he would pardon him,
this is how I think about it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Creates a sense of.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Magnanimity from Trump that I think would be helpful in
a variety of respects, especially if he could get Joe
Biden to you know, even if he comes forward and
says I would do it, and then Biden does it,
he could say, look, you know, you know Joe, I
there could be a little more coming together.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Of those two before.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
The end of Biden's term, and this will be helpful
for when Trump comes in and pardons every non violent jasic.
If you didn't punch a cop in the face, you
should you know, or something like that, you should not
be serving a prison sentence for January sixth. You know,
these all these defenders we're talking about, and then and
(28:32):
then don't think and then if you should be commuted,
the DOJ should look at what federal assault of a
of a federal officer, how that was, how was that
treated in Oregon when Trump sent police officers there to
Portland and there were Antifa lunatics attacking them, throwing bottles
at them. Okay, if they got six months, then they
(28:52):
should serve six months. I believe in rule of law.
I believe in a long order. If somebody got five
years commuted, commute it down. They've you know, to time served.
End of discussion. That's what I think should happen here.
So nonviolent you're free, you're pardoned. Violent it should be
commuted down substantially. And then there's a conversation though, of well,
(29:13):
if they're basically at the end of their time service,
should they be pardoned as well? Just because they have
all their rights taken away? Did other people get all
their rights taken away were they convicted a felony. So
I want parody, which is another way Clay of saying
I want justice.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I think that's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
And I think if he just does jan six, he's
creating a political capital issue that can be alleviated in
a substantial way Zach does, Eric Adams and Hunter Biden.
I think it's smart strategically as well as being I
think an important message about hey, we don't try to
imprison our political adversaries, which was standard American operating procedure
(29:51):
for two hundred and fifty years until Biden changed that
two years ago. Yes, so we'll take your calls on
this eight hundred and two to eight to a eight
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not on the gun.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
That's on me.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
But I'm telling you when I if I set up,
if I set up my BC fifteen on the table
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Speaker 1 (31:27):
We don't want to antagonize the Biden administration.
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Speaker 1 (31:57):
Coming up in the third hour.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Here, we're gonna look back at the dream team that
Trump is assembling for his cabinet. More updates on that
we haven't even discussed. Really the Veke and Elon teamed
up together. Uh you know this, this is like going
at the very top of the IQ scale, which I
love to see to handle a very complicated problem which
(32:19):
is raining in the craziness of government spending and inefficiency,
really inefficiencies within the government. Elon, who fired eighty percent
of Twitter and X I believe is better than Twitter
has ever been. Yeah, he's the right guy for the
job and Viveke. Well, I mean Viveke is Vivike. He's
super smart, built a company and has done.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Very very well for himself. We will get to all
that coming up here in a moment. We got some
good calls. Clay. Wait, I don't think we talked about
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Speaker 2 (32:46):
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Bobby is from Birmingham, Alabama. Bobby, we hear your your
eighty two. Congrats, Hey, my friend on all the life
wisdom you have acquired.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I've live through a lot of elections and I've seen
a lot of stuff and h Joy Read is joy
List and Sonny is one bit Sonny. Anyway, I won't
to I love all of Trump's pig I don't know
if y'all know, but he can pick jd Vance as
(34:48):
the Senate leader to replace mcconnells. That would he would,
He would do a great job. But let me go
on to talking about these liberal women. These liberal women
have totally emasculated men. And I want a real man.
I don't want a wish and I don't want to
be the man, you know what I mean. But all
(35:09):
these liberal women they want to be the man. They
want to be in control of everything, and they really
don't do a good job. I mean, I've worked all
my life up until I was seventy three at different professions,
and I've worked very, very hard because I was raised
to work hard. But these women have done a way
(35:32):
with real masculine men.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I don't know, Bobby, you think.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
About it, Bobby, we love the wisdom delivered with southern charm.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Thank you so much. Totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
She's one hundred percent right, Buck, And Bobby sounds like
every woman that was a mom when I was a
kid growing up, when you just heard of you live
in any other part of the country, every Southern man
around my age. Bobby sounds exactly like our teachers, exactly
(36:04):
like our moms, exactly like our grandmas. And we need
a lot more Bobby's. And you know what the irony is, Buck,
left women, left wing women, do you know who they
actually marry? Guys like jd Vance, high earning, highly educated,
highly successful. They don't even want what they claim in public.
(36:27):
They want remember one of the big lessons. Once you
see it, you'll never miss it. A lot of people
talk left and live right. It defines the left wing
in this country. They live like their right wingers.
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