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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Welcome in everybody.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now, my friends.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Great things happening.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
When it comes to Trump two point oh the next administration,
we're seeing more and more of his picks. We'll give
you the latest on who's going to be doing what why.
It matters what we know about these individuals. But this
is a Trump team that is assembling a collection of

(01:05):
all stars to be in top roles, to enact the agenda,
to dare I say, make America great again, to do
the best things possible for the future of this country.
You can pick your phrase, Clay, but it's looking really.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Good so far.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
We'll break down where Pete hegsath Elon musk Vivek Ramaswami,
John Ratcliffe, where all of them are fitting, Where these
chessboard pieces are going as of the last twenty four hours.
I'm very encouraged by all this. I would tell you
if I wasn't. I think that this is really showing

(01:42):
you that they mean business with this administration.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
There is there is no learning curve.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
And that's important because, right, Clay, you agree, eighteen months,
they got eighteen months to do huge things. After that,
it all turns into, oh what about the midterms? And
then it turns into Trump's lame duck and eighteen months
to save the country. That has to be the mantra.
And maybe eighteen is too generous. It might be one year, right,
it might be twelve months.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
And this is.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
Where a lot of people said, Okay, how is Trump
two point zero going to be different than Trump one
point zero?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Buck? Trump one point oh was a holy crap. We won.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Now we have to figure out how to staff the
entire government. Trump was an outsider without traditional allies inside
of the government. And frankly, I think he would say
it was really difficult to know who you could trust
and who you should put in positions of power. Everything
that he's done so far, every announcement that he has made,

(02:41):
has suggested I'm the president and I'm putting people in
who can make a tremendous difference for what I care about.
That's what the president should be doing. And there doesn't
seem to be any identity politics associated with this. It's
just Trump finding guys and gals that he believes are
full adherence to his policies that he is going to

(03:03):
put in place to execute the game plan that he
cares about the most. And I think it's seismically different already.
And how smooth he's been.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I love some of these picks.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
You can go back. I mean, Clay and I. The
thing is, we tell you what we think and you
go back. You can listen. As a matter of public record.
In twenty sixteen, I was like, Trump is amazing. And
then some of the picks that he was making, I
was like, I don't know if that's who I go with,
but it's okay. You know, it's his call, his choice.
They have learned a lot you know, Susie Wiles is

(03:38):
very shrewd. She's looking for competency and loyalty together in
these picks. Now, let's get into some of the names. Okay,
we're giving you the broad strokes. The big one that
I got to tell you, Clay my phone it was
I was like, you know, did North Korea just invade
Santa Monica?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Like what is going on?

Speaker 5 (03:57):
My phone goes nuts. All of a sudden, they say,
did you see about heg Seth? And now, fortunately I
know it's a point dee time, so I wasn't like,
oh my god, it's Pete okay, and everyone's saying, you
see about Hegzeth? Our friend, Pete Hegseeth, who is a
weekend host on Fox and Friends. Now, And before I
say anything else, a longtime veteran of the United States Army,

(04:20):
served in a rock served in Afghanistan, ser of the
Guantanamo Bay, went to Princeton, went to Harvard, worked on
veterans affairs. I just want to put that out there
right away, because the media is all Fox News host is,
you know, like they're doing the usual stuff. Pete Hegseth
has been named as Trump's appointee for Secretary of Defense.

(04:41):
I had veteran friends of mine and special operations guys
who were all saying, you know, Pete, I'm so excited.
You know he's up for this, right, like he's gonna
do amazing things. I said, absolutely, he's gonna he's gonna
do great things here.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
So we can talk more about that one.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
I think it's the one clay that the the the Democrats,
the system, the swamp is the most freaked out. Yeah,
so far right, I pretty clearly. I mean I started
my career in media in twenty eleven. That was when
I officially like got rid of I'm thinking that's when
my clearances lapsed, and you know, I left government. I

(05:17):
went to work for Glenn Beck's The Blaze and we
had a show called Real News, and one of our
most frequent panelists in those early days was Pete Hegsett.
So Pete and I go back a long ways. I
know you were with him just on election night, right,
I was with him for about seven hours on election night.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
So it's funny.

Speaker 6 (05:34):
I called you because I was picking up my kids
at school and my phone blew up, as it often
does not in the Hamask blow up way with text
messages about Pete, and obviously I work at Fox News.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I know Pete well, I was celebrating the.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
Trump win with him, But if he knew that Defense
Secretary was in play, huge poker face. I mean, he
was just incredibly excited that Trump had gotten the win.
And I think it's super smart. He's been on this
show a bunch buck. I think he's gonna do a
really good job.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'll put it to you this way. Also, first of all,
I know Pete very very high.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
IQ absolutely loves veterans and loves our military. I mean
loves the men and women who serve. There's no question
about that. And veterans know this, and he has a
long history of so I know he'll be active in
the sense he'll be running the Pentagon. But people who
are in that family of the United States military, Pete,

(06:37):
Hegseth truly cares about them and wants to do great
things for those who are still serving. And by the way,
I haven't I don't think we've seen who the VA.
Who's gonna have the VA, But whoever that is, they'll
get whatever support they need, certainly from Pete and from Trumpet,
from the whole administration Clay. I had heard in back
channel previously that Pete was considered for Veterans Affairs, so

(07:00):
not you know, which the cabinet position. Was not surprising
to me that he was in the mix for a
an appointee slot like this. But Secretary of Defense. I
mean really, for most people, the big three are President,
Secretary Defense, Secretary of State.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
In terms of appointments.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
Attorney General I think is massively maybe because I'm a
lawyer and I'm a legal nerd like I think that
one is now bigger than it used to be and
looms larger in the minds of the public because Clay,
that used to be almost considered a nonpartisan like functionary position,
and now you know, you need a warrior. You need
somebody that will fight back against the forces of the

(07:36):
deep state and of the far left trying to weaponize
the law.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
So that's critical. We haven't even gotten some of the
other appointments, and Clay, I'll just throw them out there.
I want to you know, you can, you can give
me your your quick reaction on these ones, not that
we can really do a quick one, because it's pretty
amazing elon.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Some broke braids that just happened. Buck John Thune has
been elected Senate Majority Leader. So Rick Scott came on
tried to make an argument it's a closed not public vote,
so I have not seen the numbers yet of how
the voting went to the extent that they're going to
publicly release that at all. But John Thune is replacing

(08:15):
Mitch McConnell as Senate Majority Leader. Trump did not weigh
in interestingly and decide to say, put his finger on
the scale. He's already endorsed Mike Johnson for Speaker. But
that literally just breaking right now. I appreciate this. I
was being too positive and happy, not sounding enough like.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
The e or that I can be, and so Clay
is bringing me back down to reality here with this
breaking news that Thune will be Senate Majority leader.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
It should have been Rick Scott.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
I let's just be this is not the time for
anyone to hold back on what they believe and what
they think, because the future of the country is so
much in play.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Maybe we can invite on, We'll bite on Ted Cruz,
We'll invite on some senators that we know. I think
we'll be willing to at least explain how this process went.
I don't think they'll tell us about the secret vote
necessarily because it's secret. But to me, look, this isn't
it's not a It's disappointing, but I don't think it
should interrupt our flow here of well, it's interrupting the flow. Fine,

(09:15):
I don't know, Clay. You've made me sad. Now you
talked for a minute. I'm with that out publicly.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
I don't think that I think Trump is going to
have so much power in terms of the number of
people that are pulling in the same direction for his
agenda that I don't think who Senate majority leader is
is going to dictate what is able and not able
to be passed. I do think that the senators there

(09:41):
feel like there are procedural hurdles and a learning curve
that they feel like John Thune is more capable of
managing than Rick Scott. I would have, probably if I
were in the Senate right now, voted for Rick Scott.
I probably would have if I were a senator right now.
I'm curious to see what the total vote reflects, because

(10:04):
I think he is more likely to support Trump.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
And Trump just won a you know.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
Pretty substantial election victory, and so we should do whatever
we can to make sure his policies are implemented.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I'm gonna take us back into happy land here for
a second. Yes, it was breaking news, and Clay's right
to break in with it, so I give him full credit.
But okay, let's get to Elon and Elon and Vivek. Okay, yay,
Elon and Viveke. From a President Trump's statement on this,
I am pleased to announce that the great Elon Musk,
working in conjunction with American patriot Vivike Ramaswami, will leave

(10:40):
the Department of Government Efficiency Doze DOGE. Together these two
wonderful Americans will pave the way for my administration to
dismantle government bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures, and
restructure federal agencies essential to these Save America movement. This

(11:01):
will send shock waves through the system and anyone involved
in government waste, which is a lot of people, according
to mister Musk Clay. After the deportation of criminal aliens,
and I think we need to start specifying that because
we're not going to be able to even look at
the cases of you know, kindly old grandmas who are

(11:23):
here illegal for years, no matter how fast we try
to ramp up deportation. So let's not get all caught
up in what will be a more difficult conversation or
more difficult situation right now. It can just be sending
people home to their home countries who are criminals, who
have done criminal stuff here or who have serious criminal
records when they entered. They've all got to go, Clay,

(11:46):
depending on the s and we're talking millions of people,
that would be millions of people, certainly a couple two
to three million. I don't even know what the full
estimates are. No one does right now, because it would
be everybody in custody who's in illegal as well as
anyone else who's floating around who should have been deported
under existing orders. No more sanctuary city crap. Sorry, I'm
getting divertic because I get excited about that subject. But Clay, Clay, This,

(12:09):
I think is number two. The Elon vivek Vivik mission
of truly training the swamp. This is they're showing up
like the guys that drain the pool at the end
of the season, to drain this swamp.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
Both of these guys have run successful businesses. Elon arguably
is the most successful businessman in any of our lives.
I mean, I think if you consider Tesla's SpaceX boring company,
what he's doing now with Twitter, no one else has
had as big of an impact in any of our
lives as what Elon is doing. And you have to

(12:44):
look at the government. I have said this for a while.
Easily half of all federal employees could be fired and
the government would work just as efficiently. I think numbers
probably seventy five percent. Buck they don't even bother going
into office. I mean, one of the things Trump's going
to have to do, I think when he returns is
just say, hey, if you're a federal employee, you have
to be here five days a week, and if you
don't show up five days a week, we're going to

(13:05):
fire you. I think that's an easy message to send.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
I will tell you know my experience the CIA, and
I think we discussed this before the show, but any
was asking yes. Trump and I did have a conversation
in twenty twenty about me being the cabinet appointee for
I think set it on the air with us that
he was having a CIA director. So I'm I'm I
am very committed to what we are doing right now.
But there was if anyone was wondering, yeah, we had

(13:29):
had talks before about that and when the President asked
you to come to the Oval office and discuss whether
you would serve the answer is yes.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
But that was back in the day.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
I am totally committed to what we're doing here now,
and this is the best way that I can help
the country, I think is to be a part of
Clay and Buck and what we're doing here on this show,
because I've gotten some emails and text messages Clay about this.
But now I just lost my train of thought. Where
was I a second ago? We were talking.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
About the impact of what ELA and in the federal
government workforce and everything else.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
My experience in the CIA was and look, I'll be
I wasn't there that long, but I and I briefed
the president a few times. I mean, I was pretty
damn good at what I did, and that was that
was widely recognized inside the building. I can tell you this, Clay,
ten percent of that building shouldn't be there because they're
actually against the mission, meaning that they're ideologically opposed to

(14:24):
particularly if there's a Republican administration, and it might even
be more like twenty percent, then call it. You know,
seventy or eighty percent are just showing up, and then
ten percent are the true public servants who view this
as a mission, as a calling, and they are badasses.

(14:44):
Even in the CIA, my friends, there are people who
if you got to know them, you would realize, oh
my god, these guys and gals.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Are absolutely the real deal.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
You know, go back and watch zero Dark thirty, like,
those people exist and they are real. But Clay to
the point about elon very small percent of the whole,
very small percent of the whole.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
We'll come back and talk a little bit more about
the Senate Majority Leader vote. There are some reports out
there about how the vote tally went, and we'll discuss
that and more.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Obviously, Trump is in DC.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
We'll keep rolling in the event that there's any public
availability there. Conquering hero landing and being back after the
biggest victory for any Republican since nineteen eighty eight, it's
got to feel pretty.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Good when you land there at Reagan National Airport.

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(16:35):
Thune is going to be your Senate majority leader. Votes
are still not in from California.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Buck.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
We're sitting here at eight days and this morning when
I checked only seventy nine percent of the votes were in.
But Trump has now gone to a different level of
support than any Republican has ever received. As we are
talking right now, he's approaching seventy six million million votes,
seems likely to get seventy seven or seventy eight million,

(17:05):
somewhere in that range before the counting stops. Can we
talk about the fact that Kamala Harris is going to
get seven million less votes than Joe Biden did in
twenty twenty. Anybody out there maybe wondering, Hey, what happened
that Kamala Harris is getting nowhere near the vote tally
that she got that Democrats got in twenty twenty. I

(17:27):
think maybe it's worth putting a pin in and asking
were they able to take advantage of COVID and ballot
harvest in a way that they have not been able to.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Do since COVID.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
I think that's the only takeaway you can have as
voting is going to be down overall. I do want
to give you credit, Buck, and I believe we have
some audio. The total black mail vote appears to have
come in under twenty five percent. We did have at
one point a bet over what the total would be

(18:03):
and then Biden dropped This is a long running bet,
and then Biden dropped out, and then we had to
reconsider and recontemplate. I think the other two things that
we're still outstanding was what's the black vote going to be?
And are we going to end up with more or
less votes in twenty twenty four than we had in
twenty twenty looks like the total number of votes is
going to be down, but according to some early reports, Buck,

(18:26):
twenty one percent of black men voted for Trump. Now
there's been a varying percentage tally here, but the crew
wanted to make sure that they grabbed this, so I
before I'm out, Buck Scott Solo show Thursday Friday, Before
I head out, I wanted to give Buck his flowers
here if we could play. The data is still a

(18:48):
little bit uncertain, in my defense, but here is that
discussion as it appears that it's going to be either
a little bit below somewhere below twenty five percent.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Here's that discussion.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
One of the wagers, what would the percentage of the
black mail vote be for Trump? You think he gets
twenty five percent? That's what I said when he was
going against Biden.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Are you.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Are you doubling down on this one or I have
to allow you to walk away because it's a different
fighter now in the ring.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I am going to I'm gonna double down on WHOA.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
Okay, I'm not as confident to take take the other
side of this one.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
We'll make this a stake in twenty twenty five to
spread these out. I'll take I don't think Trump gets
twenty five percent of the black mail vote, Okay, so.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
The numbers right now are twenty one percent. I will
put just one star here, buck. Our friend Ryan Gerdusky
has said we should wait for the official Pew data
because there are conflicting exit polls. But you would be
a favorite in the clubhouse right now having posted a
low score. If this were a golf match. It doesn't

(19:58):
look like it's going to get to twenty five. Did
get over twenty though.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Look first of all, I'm not even you know what
I mean, I'm not even feeling like this is some
huge victory. I still I still am strutting my stuff
over the jd Vance pick because nobody was saying that,
and I nailed that one, and Avern's like jd Vance
the future after Trump of maga, and I'm like, I
told you, I told you, But on this one, Clay, look,
I think you get credit for seeing the trajectory overall.

(20:23):
I mean, yes, technically I wasn't even gonna play that audio.
But see, Clay, I want to audience, that's right. Yeah,
he's he's a betting man, so I gave him a
lot of credit for coming very close. And sure enough,
if it does break that twenty five percent, well then
you know, then I'll get Clay a steak. Probably be
in d C for Inauguration week. I think that's the
next time we'll be able to do some steak. So

(20:44):
there we go. So I'll let Clay buy me a
steak freak at Shape Billy Suit, which is my favorite
bistro in Washington, d C. But I would say this
the overall this was actually more of just my sense
the overall black vote though because of black black women
I don't think move very much at all, which was
always my contention that the black vote as a whole

(21:08):
for Republicans. Every election cycle, we get all excited because
I want ninety percent of black I mean, I want
one hundred percent of Black Americans voting Republican. But we
get very excited, we think we're going to do better
with overall the black vote, and it just doesn't seem
to materialize. So what's the I think what did Trump get?
Did he break double digits on the overall black vote
was an eleven.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
I think he gained black vote overall, but you're right,
the reason didn't explode very very.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Small gain though as a percentage. I mean we're talking
the black male vote considerable the black female vote. Actually,
I think Kamala did better with than Biden. If you're
breaking it up by gender, I think.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
You may well be right, which is why the biggest
takeaway to me of the Identity Politics coalition black women
are still strongly, almost uniformly, voting for Democrats everybody else.
I think one of the lessons I saw this data
and I thought it was really very striking, and it
makes arguing, oh, Trump's racist such an even more difficult argument.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
This is the.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Least racially polarized race that we have had in the
country in fifty years.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm surprised that.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
Again, if you want a positive, optimistic takeaway from aside
from Trump one, and he's going to win the most
votes ever for Republican best win since eighty eight. But
if you were out there, I know we got a
massive amount. If you're out there listening in your Hispanic
or you're Black, or you're Asian, or you're white, whatever
your race is. While they have tried to tear us

(22:39):
all apart in the media by talking about white supremacy
and racist police officers and defund the police and everything else,
this is the least racially polarized election in fifty years.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Buck.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
I take that as a really really good sign for America.
And some of you who are history people will say, Okay,
what was going on back then? Remember, black people voted
Republican in substantial numbers because Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves
for a long time. And really it was only in

(23:16):
the wake of the Civil Rights Movement that the black
vote moved overwhelmingly to the Democrat Party. So we're going
back in time to a really different era of America.
And I am cautiously optimistic that there are a lot
of American patriots out there, regardless of your skin color,
that have looked around and said, I want America to

(23:39):
be great, and we can't do that if we're buying
into identity politics from the Democrat Party. So again, there
are lots of reasons to be optimistic. I told you
guys how optimistic I am about young men of all
races saving America in the generation ahead, because I think
they're going to be moving even more into the republic

(24:00):
can camp and I'll give you another story on this buck.
Anecdotes are not evidence of the truth, right, but they
can be a way to examine larger cultural trends. And
that's what I try to do when I use an anecdote.
About a year ago, maybe it was two years ago,
I was walking into Target and one of my sons

(24:20):
we were walking through, and he said, Dad, there are
girl power shirts everywhere in Target. I said, yeah, you know,
that's right, Like there's lots of girl power, yay girls
everything that Target was selling. He said, how come there
are never any boy power shirts? And you know, I,
again had never really thought about it, but I think

(24:44):
there are a lot of young men. If you're a
boy mom out there, if you've got grandsons, there are
a lot of young boys that are growing up now
and they're saying they're they're twelve years old and they're
being told that men are the problem in America and
looking around and saying, what's wrong with being a boy,
what's wrong with growing up and being a man. We

(25:06):
have created this whole girl power yay universe over I
would say, the last twenty or so years, and that's great.
Girls should be able to grow up and be wildly
successful in this country.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
But you don't have to tear.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Down boys to elevate girls. And I think a lot
of boys all over America, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic feel
like in school that they are being not treated fairly
and that girls have been elevated above them. And this
is something that I think if you're forty my age,

(25:40):
you don't really think about as much. If you're sixty,
you probably don't think about as much. But I'm telling
you these young boys out there, these kids that are
let's say eight to twenty, this is a big deal.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
In their world.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
And I think what you saw, Buck was a lot
of young men saying, hey, I'm voting Republican because we're
failing a lot and we're tearing down men and young
boys in an effort to elevate girls.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
And that's just not right.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
And if you look at the data, Buck, sixty percent
of all college grads are female. Now men are not
graduating from college taking ap courses having as much success
as women.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
You remember, this is what I was saying that exact
you know, data set. I started talking about it on
Bill Maher and the Democrat guest next to me was like,
how dare you we talk about the troubles of men?
And I looked at her. I said, well, this is
why Kamala's going to lose. And I'm not saying I'm
a prophet, although maybe i am. It was very obvious
that this is what was going on. There's something rotten

(26:41):
in the ideology of a Democrat party, or there's a
lot of things that are rotten, but there's something rotten
specifically on the issue of men and masculinity. And I'm
just going to say within the black and Latino community
of men, yes.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
They don't.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
They don't have to sit there and get a lectured
to the same way on some of these issues as
white liberals will do to other white liberals.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (27:09):
There's a little more of like excuse me, Like I'm
not going to sit here and have some progressive software
designer from San Francisco who's making four hundred thousand dollars
a year. Tell me, as a black man living in
the South, Tell me, as a Latino man living in
South Florida or Texas, that my daughter can have men
smashing the volleyball in her face.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 (27:30):
It's there's a dynamic there where they're just they just
don't want to hear it. And the Democrats didn't figure
this out. And they can't morally blackmail their own minority
mail communities the way they can other white liberals, which
is what's going on.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
And this also is a function of It starts off
as white men are evil, which is where they started
in their Identity Politics coalition, but soon it moves into
masculinity itself as toxic. And that's why this ad Buck
she for them, he's for us that if you watch
a football game, that thing was on it felt like

(28:07):
every commercial break. And what's interesting about this Buck to
me is you know who that ad did so well with?
Black men, Hispanic men, white moms in the suburbs tested
off the charts with that group. How often do you
hit black men, Hispanic men, and white moms in the

(28:28):
suburbs with an ad that speaks to them so well.
It's because a lot of white women who have children
saw that and said, I don't want my girls having
to play against boys. I don't want men in their
locker rooms. And it's universal. I think of how things
are lost, and I hear from a lot of moms
now they're not worried about their girls. You know, they

(28:51):
try to turn abortion into the issue. Girls are dominating
in higher education, girls are dominating in high school. I
think what a lot of people are recognizing is actually
boys are the ones that we tore down to elevate girls.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
And men feel it. Young boys feel it.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
I don't know that they verbalize it very much, but
they verbalized it in terms of the vote when they
showed up in record numbers last week.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Not to keep reference to theot Bill Marthy, but I
just think it's funny because we did touch on some
of these issues right before the election. Of the election
showed how important was Clay. Remember they asked me, you know,
Bill said in masculinity, you know there are good traits
to masculinity, and I said, yeah, you know, courage, strength,
risk taking. And sure enough, Democrats on the panel, are
you saying women can't and this is the This is

(29:42):
the mania from the left that masculinity cannot have anything
good that is notably masculine, and therefore masculinity has to
be a collection of.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Toxic, negative traits. They have no way around this.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
They don't understand that men and women can both be
successful innately in their sex without it being a power struggle,
because everything in their world is the oppression Olympics in.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Orders gender Marxism. It's like race Marxism. Everything is your
group is oppressing my group, and my group needs to
be we're victims, so then we get to oppress your
group because of what you victimize. I mean this, it
is a recipe for the implosion of society. And fortunately,
by a nice solid majority the American people said, nah,

(30:38):
we're not in.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
On that, and not just one group, the least racially
polarized electorate in fifty years. Lots of good people of
all different backgrounds said enough. You know.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
The other thing is too clay that the left spends
so much time talking about how racis. First of all,
the sexism thing. Trump won. I think he won all
married women across the board. I think you want a
majority of white women across the board get married, unmarried.
So the sexism thing is just this is just trash
from feminists who were unhappy and made.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Bad life choices. Just put that aside.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
But on the race thing, every Republican, I know, I'm sorry,
I know I'm running over time here, but it's really
I feel very passionately about this because this has been
since I was sixteen years old.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
This has been sort of a narrative that's out there.
Every Republican that I know is so happy and so enthused.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
About more of the Black vote being Republican, more of
the Latino vote being Republican, more of the Asian vote
being Republican. This notion that we wanted to be some
white monolith party is just the biggest lie of all.
I agree, it's a massive, massive, nasty lie that I
think Americans are rejecting. When I see these data points,
I get really happy and optimistic about where we're going.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I think we may be able to make America great again.

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Speaker 2 (33:37):
A lot going on, my friends.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
The all star team being assembled as we speak for
this Trump two point zero administration. Our buddy Pete Hegseath
in for Secretary of Defense, John Ratcliffe in SCIA director.
You've got Elon and Vivaq. They're almost like Brazilian soccer players.
You can just say one name for them, now, you

(33:58):
know what I mean. Ronaldo slash, Elon slash Bavic the
vicant Elon in together on the DOGE the Department of
Government Efficiency. We're gonna discuss that here coming up. Also,
who else is in the in the new category we
mentioned Lee Zelden, e p A. Christy Nome DHS chief

(34:19):
Tom Holman. The borders are uh Susie Wilde's chief of
staff is Steven Miller.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Is that official that he's Deputy.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
Wie officially official? Taylor Buttowitch, who's been with him for
a long time. Done great work. Also, Dan Scavino, all
of those guys from inside the team have been have
been officially announced as members of the Trump administration. And
so Trump himself DC sitting by the fire with with

(34:47):
Joe Biden talking about being back in the White House.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
Let's get into this is cut one, Trump and Biden
hanging out telling war stories.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
You know, no big deal play cut one foord to having,
like they said, screw transition to everything.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
We can make sure you're comminated what you need.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I'm gonna get a chance to talk about some out today.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
It's good.

Speaker 8 (35:07):
Welcome, Thank you, Jenny, thank you very much. And politics
is tough, and it's many cases not a very nice world.
But it is a nice world today and I appreciate
it very much. A transition that's so smooth. It'll be
as smooth as it can get. And I very much
appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Jent you all, thank you all all right over you on.
I have a sports analogy for you here.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
This is two fighters who have gone the full distance,
thrown everything they have at each other. Trump won, He's
had his you know, gloves raised in the air, but
he's actually going over and giving a hug to a
worthy opponent here afterwards, That's what it looked like a
little bit to me. It's like, all right, I won,

(35:58):
but you fought hard, and there's some that comes with
fighting hard, even if you're Joe Biden.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
I think that's a good analogy. Trump has talked to
The New York Post already, and there are some quotes
here Buck that I think you'll enjoy.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
This just popped in the last few minutes.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
He told the New York Post that the that he
and Biden quote both really enjoyed seeing each other. You know,
it's been long, long slog. It's been a lot of
work on both sides. He did a very good job
with respect to campaigning and everything else. We really had
a good meeting. These are quotes from Trump on meeting Biden.

(36:35):
He also said, let's see that he and Biden discussed
Ukraine and also what should happen.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I asked for his views.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
He gave them to me, and we talked very much
about the Middle East. I wanted to know his views
on where we are and what he thinks, and he
gave them to me. He was very gracious. Okay, this
is Trump being nice. This is Biden being nice a
week ago, Trump was hitler. Now, Buck, there are pictures

(37:04):
of both men smiling in front of a roaring fireplace.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
In the White House.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Here's my thing that I wish many of you out
there would understand, but particularly a lot of leftists who
are never going to hear this. The people telling you
that he was hitler never actually believed it. They said
it because it was politically expedient. Now it's one thing
for them to show how quickly. I mean, if you
really thought Trump was Hitler, you wouldn't talk about how

(37:30):
important it was to have a smooth transition. You wouldn't
talk about how you're glad that American democracy has had
a voice. You would say, somebody needs to kill this
guy or else he's going to destroy the world. That's
not what they're saying because they never actually believed it.
But here's the problem, Buck, they don't tell they're moro
on followers out there, who were trying to kill Trump,

(37:51):
who were shaving off all their heads, who were saying
that they're not going to have kids, who were saying
that they're not going to sleep with their significant others anymore.
They are allowing their mental health instability to be taken
what they're saying about him being Hitler at face value,
as if it's true. They don't have the ability or

(38:13):
the willingness to turn off the election season. Because I
really think this, and I hate to say it, I
think a solid twenty percent of America, overwhelmingly on the left,
has profound mental illness, and Democrats are preying on that
mental illness in an effort to drive up turnout to

(38:35):
the best of their ability, even though they know what
they're saying about Trump isn't true.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
I think that this is inescapable, is the conclusion.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
It's why I.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
CNN and MSNBC and the ratings are dropping, because even
those audiences have had to reckon with They were lied
to about the prospects of Kamala winning, they were lied
to about the horror of a Trump victory. They they
should be if I were an msn you know what, Clay,
I am an MSNBC.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
You are You're your your wheelhouse, that's you know.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I'm I'm like sitting there drinking my crack at coffee,
watching Morning Joe just to see how they're trying to
destroy the republic. But if I were ideologically aligned with them.
If I actually believe this stuff instead of watched it
for some kind of like, you know, the weird pleasure
I get out of seeing these lunatics make fools of themselves,
I would be very disappointed in the way that they

(39:31):
have presented pretty much everything in this campaign. I mean,
let's not forget, just to name one, Joe Scarborough earlier
this year said that Joe Biden was not just sharp,
but the sharpest he's ever been. You can't come back,
you can't come back from that lie. If anyone, anybody
with a high IQ who cares about accountability and credibility
knows that Joe Scarborough is a fraud, an absolute fraud,

(39:53):
will say absolutely anything. And it's true of a lot
of others over there as well. I think that Trump
is moving things in a direction right now where it
will be very hard for them. In the anti Trump media.
You know, CNN should have stayed where it was center left.
It was center left. Now it wasn't center, but it
was you know, everything to the left of center. But

(40:14):
in you know, some people that weren't completely insane, it
went full left wing under Trump term one because of
Jeff Zucker and his personal feud with Trump, so he
turned it into an anti It was like the death
Star of anti trump Ism, and we all know what
happened to the death star. So I think Clay this
time around, they're going to have to do a total
reshuffling of how they cover these things because Trump is

(40:36):
going to do good things, including some of the picks
that he's made. I wanted to bring us back to
that for a second. Look the CIA director, that's mostly
going to be a clean up and streamlining job. I
think under Trump term two and this has gone to Ratcliffe,
and I think that that's a strong pick. He was

(40:57):
d and I before he knows the intel community, the
intel community, and I come from it. I know what
I'm talking about. Under the War on Terror, Rubric Clay
got so big that it turned It's almost like Skynet
and Terminator two when it became self aware. The intelligence
bureaucracy got so big and so just bloated, and it's

(41:19):
able to hide so much of what it does from
real scrutiny under classification that it needs a dramatic remodeling.
And that means some of the load bearing walls are
actually gonna have to get gonna get got you know
what I mean, they're gonna have to swing some sledgehammers here.
I think he's the right man for that job. Elon
and vivag in the government accountability or sorry, government whatever

(41:43):
is it called DOGE Department of Government Accountability DOGE a
Department of Government efficiency rather DOGE. I think they're going
to do a really good job. And then you also
have Pete hagg Seth. This was the one that's got
them completely freaking out. Let's remind everybody of some whiz
them from Rush Clay. The team pulled this. When you're
talking about the Pentagon, you're not necessarily talking about warriors

(42:08):
at the top. You're talking about politicians and bureaucrats. Here's
what Rush said years ago, seeing this for what it was.

Speaker 9 (42:16):
Player all kinds of generals and leaders in the Pentagon,
warrior generals, politically correct generals, others that are devoted entirely
to the bureaucracy. They're more concerned we're doing what they've
got to do to climb the Pentagon ladder of success,
rather than actually be warrior.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Generals play the same thing. The CIA, by the way, accurate.
And I think Pete Hegseath is going to go in
there and shake it up. I don't even think it's
unique to Pentagon.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
I think it's just aid CIA. It's the same thing
I tell you, as you said, I don't even think
it's unique to government. There are tons of people in
every employment imaginable that don't do what's best for the organization.
They play the politics that leads to their advancement the best.
Every one of you listening to us right now, if

(43:13):
I asked you, you could say, oh, yeah, that's so
and so who has worked alongside of you don't care
at all about the right decisions being made by the
business or the entity that you're working for. They are
just trying to advance themselves the best in their ability.
What's the great line about the faculty lounge in at universities.

(43:37):
It's something along the lines of never have so many
tried so hard for something that is worth so little meaning.
If you're the head of the Romance languages at Swarthmore,
you are just fighting tooth and nail to advance, like
is it gonna be the Italian professor or is it
going to be the French professor who manages to chair

(43:58):
the department? Nobody frigging cares. But they're knifing each other
proverbially in back alleys inside of these universities. To chair
the Romance language is not at all caring about whether
the overall university is advancing in any way. It's climbing
that career ladder at a just.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
A little bit higher rung.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
And I don't mean trying to found something that would
otherwise not exist like Elon. I mean in existing institutions,
because I think startups and I think new businesses are
very different. That's why I don't like working at fusty
old organizations buying large butt, because it's so frustrating because
so many people are just trying to preserve whatever they
have as opposed to trying to build something new kind.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
I want to add to a little perspective, you know again,
Clay having worked in a massive federal bureaucracy twice of
western federal biocraty twice, I'm so bad.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I don't think I could do it. I would lose
my mind.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
I worked in the CIA, which for government is leaning mean,
just to be clear, like CIA, when I was there,
they were I mean, they were getting like something like
hundreds of thousands of applications a year.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
To work there. I mean, it's just insane. Like CIA was.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Remember it's post nine to eleven, the post nine eleven CIA.
Everybody was like, oh my gosh, all hands on deck.
You know, a lot of people military, but a lot
of people want to go in and find in laden
and that's what the CIA's job was. But I'll say this,
it's you know, we we don't.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Want to be because I know we have a lot
of government people listen to us.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
And as I said, there's a portion of these different entities,
especially when you're talking about anything in the national security
realm or the patriot badasses that we want in those places.
And whether that's FBI or CIA or you know, obviously
anywhere in the DoD complex. That is reality and we
never want to lose sight of that. And maybe it's
more like twenty percent in some of these entities. Fine,

(45:43):
But Clay, having worked in these places, it's not always
the fault, especially for the kind of that for the
mid performers, you know, for the for the big lump
in the middle. They make it impossible to be excellent.
Culture of these places excellence. I used to say this

(46:03):
to my friends in the CIA. When I was in
the CIA, excellence is punished. You're not supposed to be excellent.
You're supposed to do what the heck you're told by
the person immediately above you. So your performance review says,
I do what I'm told.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Now.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
I can't speak to the military side. We have a
huge military audience. You guys can speak to that. But
on the intel side, there's the restructuring of these places.
There's a lot of human capital, a lot of human
talent in these entities. You know, some people have just
got to go. This is not for them. Put that aside.
There are other people where if you had someone like
an Elon look at what's really going on and unleash them.

(46:42):
State agencies, federal agencies, we do need government. We're not lunatics,
they would do. I mean, what I'm saying is you
can create more high performers with a change in culture too.
I don't think we should forget that part of this
as well. There are people who if the CIA had
been a little less bureaucratic and stifling, they'd still be
their clay and they were badasses, brilliant patriots, great people

(47:05):
in general. If you move fast and break things, you
don't work very well in a bureaucracy, and that's where
I'm kind of intrigued to see how Elon and Vivek
are going to fit in in terms of their government
efficiency movements. Government is the is the foundation of inefficiency,
and so when you have someone like an Elon or

(47:26):
a Vivek who wants to move fast and break things,
I'm curious how that discordant connection is going to work
and just how many roadblocks are going to be put
up from them being able to do what's actually best
for the country. I view this as Trump's got it
on the tax I mean, and I don't want to
be dismissive of this, like, oh, that's no big deal.
But Trump's got it on taxes and trade policy, and

(47:46):
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We almost take that, I mean, just to given says
of how spoiled we are by this victory, I think
we almost take that, for granted, Clay, but the big
hills that have to be taken, the deportation mission of
criminal illegals, and this government efficiency streamlining because that's a

(48:10):
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Speaker 2 (50:53):
We need some kind of like happy music to play
in the background. Woo Trump won the presidency. We know
that won THEND It for Republicans.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
We know that House of Representatives officially now called Republican
the trifecta of my friends, the Big Three, the Presidency,
the Senate, the House of Representatives, Republicans in control of government.
You love to see it. Very exciting stuff. It's gonna
be a two seat pickup.

Speaker 6 (51:20):
It looks like it's gonna be Yeah, it looks like
it's gonna be two twenty two.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
You need two eighteen for a majority.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
I believe according to our Crew in New York Right
now there are some open seats, but Republicans had two
twenty so it looks like two twenty two is going
to be the new number, which is basically a plus two,
a status quo election. In fact, Democrats will have done
better in the House than they would have in the
national popular vote.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Just fyi, but.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Again key component here, House, Senate, White House, a clean sweep,
a red wave or even red tsunami. Me if you
would for Donald Trump with his three hundred and twelve
electoral votes now complete control of the House and Senate too.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
A little spiking the football here via numbers with Harry
entin Over at CNN. In terms of the Trump numbers
across liberal cities, this has cut thirteen.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Listen to this.

Speaker 10 (52:19):
Donald Trump put up the best Republican performance for a
Republican nominee for president and at least twenty years, if
not the entire twenty first century. We're talking about Chicago,
Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Across the map.

Speaker 10 (52:32):
Donald Trump put up historically strong numbers for Republican candidate
for president in places that truthfully, if you had asked
me eight years ago, I would have never thought possible.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
No, I mean it is really stunning.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
So what exactly is driving what's driving it?

Speaker 10 (52:47):
You know, I think immigration was part of it, but
I think crime is a big part of it as well.
What you see is the dissatisfaction number now versus a
decade ago. Look at that the unsatisfied number from thirty
five percent to fifty eight percent. The satisfied numbers dropped
by twenty points.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
Clay, I gotta tell you, I think, you know, we
were talking about whether they double down on the crazy
or run toward the center on the trans issue, and
I think there's a case to be made in both directions.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
We talked about that.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
I think Democrats are going to have to go back
to where they were in the nineties on the crime thing,
where they're not going to be fully on board, but
they are going to move toward, if not the center,
towards sanity. Nobody wants to be in a city where
old people are being bludgeoned by maniacs who are half
naked or fully naked running around the street when they

(53:34):
should be incarcerated because they've already been arrested fifty times.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
It looks like again, because California is voting so slowly,
we don't even freaking know yet. I think they're still
at like eighty two or eighty three percent eight days
later of the vote. Tallly looks like Trump's gonna lose
California by around twenty points, which is actually pretty good
for a Republican in recent history and is one reason
he's winning the popular vote, because he's not losing California

(54:00):
thirty points or some such. But also buck if you
go behind the numbers. Californians overwhelmingly voted to end essentially
amnesty for shoplifting and say, hey, let's actually enforce the
laws so we don't have to have toothpaste behind lock
and key because everything is getting stolen. They overwhelmingly voted

(54:21):
in general for sanity to return. The DA in La lost,
the mayor in San Francisco lost, the number of left
leaning state office holders who gave up their jobs because finally,
so many Californians just got fed up with incompetence. Voting

(54:42):
for Trump was a bridge too far, voting for sanity
was not, And even voting for Trump.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
He swung a lot of people, even in California.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Do you have a little soft spot for Carville from
back in the day, Clay, just because he was kind
of one of the earlies in our business.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Are you would you say you like Carville a bit
of those times?

Speaker 5 (55:00):
Because I'm about to play at Carville clip, But I
feel like you have a respect for Carville.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Am I missing? Am I?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
I don't know. I think that's true.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
Look, I like people who tell you exactly what they think,
even if sometimes I disagree with them, and that's actually
rare in media, whether it's on the left or the right.
You talked about Joe Scarborough, I have no respect for him.
If he sometimes had intelligent takes, I would say, you know,
I disagree with him. But when he tells us that
eighty two year old Joe Biden is the best version

(55:27):
of Biden, it's such a propagandistic lie that I can't
trust him anymore.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Carville.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Would you say Carville can't be he can't be totally crazy.
He's married to Mary Madeline, who who I know is
a lovely person, and I believe actually guest hosted for
Rush at one point. So yeah, he did the team
remind me. So you know, he's got his feet on
the ground. He may see things differently or wrongly, on
a bunch of things. But he's not one of these
Democrats who lives on another planet. I bring this up

(55:55):
because I think he sees what's been done to the
Democrat Party of the nineties where he had a strong
voice in the Clinton era, and he's like, do you
guys wanted to keep getting your butts kicked? This has
cut sixteen play it.

Speaker 7 (56:07):
All of the Washington based Democrats farting around, going to
wine and cheese parties and talking about how misogy and
mistig I start and get your ass out of Washington
and go work on a twenty twenty six campaign and
do penance to make up for you damn arrogance and stupidity.
We're not can say, well, We're going to say we
told you so. We told you this identity was disaster.

(56:30):
We told you to get out in front of public
safety issues.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
You didn't. You didn't.

Speaker 7 (56:35):
We told you to have an open process and demonstrate
the magnificent and staggering and deep talented exist in the
mind Democrat Party.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
You didn't.

Speaker 7 (56:43):
We told you to differentiate yourself a Biden.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
You didn't.

Speaker 7 (56:46):
I hate to be some know at all, but all
of these things are part of the record.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
Now I think he might have said Kamalo is going
to win, but I think that goes in the oh.
I have to push for my gal, uh, you know,
bucket of of decision making. But Clay, everything that he's
saying there is true. And it's funny because as an American,
I hope that Democrats listen to him. As a Republican,
I kind of want them to keep whinding about trans

(57:13):
guys and women's sports.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Listen to this buck.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Christine Amanpour, who was probably the Queen Christian christ Christie
Apologize Christian, confronted him for saying that there were too
many preachy females in the Democrat Party that were turning
off male voters and asked him about that directly, and
he did not back down.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Listen to this buck. You're gonna like cut twenty five
last spring, you said, you know, a suspicion of mine
is that there are too many preachy females dominating the
culture of the Democratic Party. Do you stand by that females?

Speaker 7 (57:49):
Would you look at our male vote? Would somebody just
take a look at how we did with males and
how we did with non white males and tell me
that the Democrats don't have have a messaging problem that
the message comes across as too feminine. I mean, of
course I was right when I said that. Yeah, I
don't think there's not a person in the world I've

(58:09):
talked to that doubts that I'm right. Right now, I
say forvocative things to get a provocative reaction, Yeah, but
are you really? Are somebody going to really tell me
we don't have a problem with mail voters?

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Can I tell you I like Salty Carville, who's going
around dunking on his own team.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
It's pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Well, look, he's a dude. This is what I said.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
You asked a good question, like who is the face
of the Democrat party?

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Right now?

Speaker 6 (58:34):
Let me just ask this question of men. Can you
name a Democrat you'd like to have a beer with?
That was a question back in the day, And I
understand Biden and Trump neither one drink, so it's a
figurative thing.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Can you name a guy that you'd.

Speaker 6 (58:47):
Like to have chicken wings with and watch Buffalo wings
and watch a football game with? Can you name a
Democrat you wouldn't mind being seated next.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
To at a big football game? I can't name one.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
Buck, I can't name a dude in the Democrat Party
right now that leave aside politics. I would like to
have a beer with sit and watch a football game with.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
I just want to say to everybody, I don't want
to forget. I don't want to let just either things
in the past go like this right now, somewhere, Gavin Newsom,
he's crying tears that his man, Clay Travis. They used
to sit on the beach in Malibu. He had three
shirt buttons down, you know, talking to Clay, drinking his
chardonnay from his own vineyard, Clay picked by his own hands,

(59:33):
talking about democracy, and now Clay is just bailing on
Handsome Newsom look at this.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
To be fair to Newsome, he might be my pick
if I had to pick somebody, but I wouldn't be
excited about it.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
This would be.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
Like three am at the bar and there's not a
lot of girls left, and there's not a lot of
guys left either. And you don't typically end up with
the homecoming King and the homecoming Queen riding off into
the sunset at three am from your neighborhood bar.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
I'm just gonna I'm gonna say this, and it might
get uh, you know, I don't know. I got to
ask our good puddy, good buddy Sean Parnell, who's you know,
mister Pennsylvania Army veteran, great guy on our Clay and
Buck podcast network, by the way, which you should definitely
listen to him. There he does Battleground by Sean Parnell.
You know, if you had to have a if you
have a Democrat you sit down with to have a

(01:00:20):
normal conversation, right now, somebody who's I'm sure there's some
members of the House who are actually pretty normal dudes,
but we just don't really know who they are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I mean, maybe I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Giving them too much credit, but there's probably you know,
there's some veterans in there who unfortunately have been led
astray by.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Like oh it's about like women's choice over their bodies
or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
But I think Fetterman, I he's not technically an independent yet, right,
I think he's going in that still direction.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
He's still a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
The reason I hate to take a shot, I don't
know that Fetterman can have actually a great conversation, chilling
side by side, right, I mean, just I mean, is
he a fun guy to hang out with and and chat.
I think he's been one hundred percent right on Israel.
I think he's right on a lot of things that
he tweets.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
But is he gonna be thinking he's a pretty normal
I think he's a pretty normal dude in so far
as you could say things to him. I mean, here's
the real test. Yeah, like the real pro test. Okay,
And this is again they always try to make this
about something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
It's not.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
If somebody is a trans adult, you speak to that
human being with dignity, with kindness, they're a fellow American,
or just a fellow human being if they're not American.
But you know, it's not about being unkind or mean
to people. But in the sports issue, now, this is
about consequences for other people.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
This isn't just an individual choice. This is and women
have been hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
And as a man, men hurting women makes any real
man very pissed off. Okay, anytime any guy who's truly
a man hears about a woman, whether it's a guy
who's abusing a spouse or a girlfriend, or a guy
who's beating up girls in the boxing ring, you know,
this pisss off normal men. Right, And if you sit down,

(01:01:57):
you have that conversation and me say, don't isn't it crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
This is really a lit test.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
Any guy you sit down with and you say, this
biological male is, you know, breaking all the records for
women in the sport. Isn't that gross? If they don't agree,
then the woke mind virus has gotten them and their
t levels are dropping and they're not really a man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
That's just where we are now.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
And I don't there a letterman would go along with
you know what I mean. I think fetterman would say, yeah,
you're right, that's crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
And by the way, it also can just be that
they're not willing to speak truth to their party because
they're afraid of what just happened.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I mean, one on one Clay, to be clear. I
just want to because I've had this.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
I've had this with Democrats and I will not out
them because I have friends who are Democrats, or they're like, yeah,
that that transport stuff is nuts, and then they will
go on MSNBC.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
And be like trans women are real women, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Because they don't want that. They don't want the hate,
they don't want the death threats. I have friends who
have gone wrong. Rogue if you will on the trans thing,
meaning they're like, yeah, you have a penis, you're a man,
and they get death threats for it, real thing.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
I feel good about their chance of winning the battle there.
I don't think there's I'm not worried about a chick
who's pretending to be a dude taking hold. No, no, no,
that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
It's never.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
This is important though, Clay, I'm sorry. It's not trans
people sending the death threats. It's not trans people. It's
people who are so upset about the wrong speak on
the trans issue that they become violent and insane. You
know what, it's basically white can of say it's white progressives.
They're the ones that are the craziest.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
And they're also the ones, to James Carvel's point, who
are destroying the Democrat Party. And so far we're not
seeing a lot of self reflection about how broken some
of these arguments are and how dishonest they are. And again,
I would just circle back. I mean, I'm curious what
your answers would be. Can you name a guy who's
an elected national Democrat figure that's statewide or certainly a

(01:03:52):
governor who thinks about running for president?

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I can't name one that i'd want to.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
SA think Seth Moulton would have been high on the list.
And you've been pointing out he stepped into the trans
bear trap.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
If you will. I mean he's a pretty normalish seamen dude.
I mean he seems somewhat dude like.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
I mean, give him credit for actually being willing to
speak out. But I think this is why the man
issue with Democrats is not going away. I think it's
gonna get worse in twenty eight before it gets better again.
We'll see if they can have somebody emerge who is
not very well known right now to combat this, But
I just don't see it. William Gilbert enlisted in the
US Army to become part of something meaningful. He loved

(01:04:27):
the sense of brotherhood that came with being in the army.
William thrived in the Army, showing a real bravery and
mastery of the skills.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
There.

Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
He received a good Conduct Medal, a non Article five
NATO Medal, a Purple Heart, and a Bronze Star medal.
While on patrol one day, a soldier from william squad
stepped on an ied As William and others tried to
help another ied detonated, resulting in the tragic death of
William and two of his fellow soldiers. William left behind
his pregnant wife, Monica and their kids. The Tunnel of

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the Towers Foundation provided his family with a mortgage free home.
Although William was never able to meet his youngest daughter,
she's the epitome of everything he was. Honor heroes like
United States Army Specialist E four William Gilbert join us
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