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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, it's Buck Sexton from our home to yours. Have
a wonderful Thanksgiving from the Clay and Buck Show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Looking in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. We roll through the Wednesday
edition of the program. We have got a ton of
different crazy stories out there to chase. We're gonna have
a lot of fun with all of you. There is
a trans congress person and there is a discussion which
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has never been needed before about Hey, which bathrooms is
the fake woman going to use? We will discuss some
of that. Sonny Houstin and Matt Gaiths, what do you
think it's fake woman? Okay? Is that too strong? Right
out of the game. I think we just go with man.
I think we just go with man man versus fake woman.
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I can see the arguments in either direction. I think
fake woman just calls out the absurdity more than just
calling him a man. But I'm open to both arguments
coming in hot out of the gate, sunny hostin, Matt Gates,
that's gonna be fun. Elon Musk buys Twitter and suddenly
there is a balancing act. Left wingers going insane. We've
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got a lot of different clips for you that we
will have fun with. But Buck, we begin with your
two favorite people in all of media. Joe Scarborough and
Mika Perzinski remain under fire over their decision to go
and have a meal with Donald Trump on Friday, and
I actually think it all made sense yesterday afternoon when
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an alert popped on my phone from the Wall Street
Journal saying that Comcast now intends to spin off MSNBC
and other of their cable assets. So let me just
kind of tell you what happened here on Friday. I
believe Meek and Joe, at the behest potentially of their
bosses or certainly not being discouraged from the decision, went
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tomorrow Lago bent the knee to Donald Trump and basically said, Hey, MSNBC.
I think they were delivering a message. MSNBC is going
to play nice with you in the early days of
your administration. The idea that you are hitler is going
to be cast aside. Congratulations on your win again. We're
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gonna kiss the ring, We're gonna bend the knee. Monday,
and I thought that was strange. I thought it was
stranger still, Buck on Monday, as we talked about on
this program. When Meek n Joe decided to tell their
audience that they had gone to see Trump. News didn't
leak on Saturday or Sunday or Friday. There are lots
of people going to see Trump. I saw him on Thursday. Like,
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there isn't if you don't post a photo and you
don't tweet about it or whatever else, there's no real story.
I don't think going to come out. But meeken Joe
felt compelled to discuss their meeting with Donald Trump Tuesday afternoon. Buck,
I was like, it all makes sense now, win the
news from the Wall Street Journal broke. So Friday you
apologize Ben the Nee to Trump. Monday you tell your
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audience you did it. Tuesday it's announced that MSNBC is
for sale, and I believe we have a cut from
Joe Scarborough awkwardly saying, hey, we could get fired at
any point to discuss that Comcast is done within the MSNBC. Listen,
I will say really quickly on this.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know it drives at the top, said, oh, like
news melt down, all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean, I could be completely wrong. We could all
be fired a year from that. A little bit of
it has happens. You never know what's going to happen tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But in this case, though, what they're doing is what
other media firms are doing. You spin off the cable
channels which seven years ago were making a ton of money.
Now they've got to figure out how to make them profitable.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, so this is a big story, and I do
think there's a panic setting in on MSNBC and CNN.
But Buck, this ties everything together. When you and I
were sitting back and we were saying, Okay, why did
this happen? Do you agree with me that it's clearly
just an attempt because truck now controls a lot of
decisions when it comes to mergers, when it comes to
acquisitions through the federal government, Comcast trying to be nice,
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make nice with Trump to make him less likely to
withhold regulatory approval when it comes to media divestiture.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Here, I don't know what entities like MSNBC or Morning
Joe more specifically, really think that they can do at
this point to regain whatever credibility. Maybe is too much
of an eye of the beholder thing, but just the
professionalism that you would expect of a news organization. I
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think that was one of the few things that the CNNs,
the MSNBC's, the Washington posts of the world we're holding
on to. Okay, maybe we're outright partisans, but there's a
level of baseline intellectual honesty or a level of baseline
you know, just doing this job in a way that
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is professional. I don't know how better to say it
than that. And really the whole thing is a clown show.
And they were calling Trump hitler and saying absurd things,
and it was wrong, and it didn't even do anything.
It didn't stop Trump from being elected. And so I
think that there's a scramble right now for relevance and
to maintain whatever audience that they have. And the more
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information is freely exchanged on X. I think Elon's purchase
of Twitter and transforming it into x is all part
of this. The more people can get through information in
real time from people that they trust because they're people
who tell them the truth. Right, That's one one thing
I'll say here is we hate getting anything wrong. It
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bothers me, like it sticks in my brain at night
when I'm trying to go to sleep, even if we
have to come on and correct it, correct it the
next day. We're not always right about predictions. Why we
make predictions here and take other sides of the bets sometimes,
but we never want to tell you anything that is untrue,
that's embarrassing to us. It is un these other news
outlets and networks, they don't really care. It's just all
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about emotional manipulation of an audience that has been primed
to think that Donald Trump is a is a fascist.
And so I think now, Clay people, more and more
are just going to turn to who has been telling
me the truth for a period of time, Like who
do I trust as a news source that that has
been there and accurate and honest. And when I say
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news source, I don't necessarily mean newsroom obviously, like we don't.
We're not a news agency here, but we do a
lot of news in conversation and what we tell people
is accurate. So I think that's it. I think it's
the death knell of much of the cable news apparatus.
I mean, look, Fox News didn't say that Trump is hitler,
so they didn't take that hit right. Fox News is
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generally pretty pro Trump, and I would say the news shows,
I mean, you watch Brett Behar's show, it's a news show. Yeah,
and they have commentary and they have respectful exchange of
ideas on that panel. I think it's one of the
better panels you'll find anywhere on TV. And they do
the news and like you cannot necessarily agree the editorial line,
but they're not insane. Morning Joe went crazy. I mean
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Morning Joe was talking about how cat Turd, which is
a Twitter account, I was watching this.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's like cat Turd gets to weigh in on the
nominees for Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
He's really talking about this.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
They've gone, They've gone off the rails, they have jumped
the shark, and I don't know if they can ever
come back together. And I'm fascinated, Clay by, what does
the Democrat coalition look like? Have you seen the data
that shows the number one choice of Democrats as of
right now for the next election.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I just saw this on X Yeah. We could have
some fun with that. I mean, Kamala is the choice.
I think it's primarily name recognition.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Overwhelmingly the choice. Clay, Yeah, Kamala is overwhelming me, Like
forty five percent I think was what I saw compared
to a a you know, distant second place finisher. If
their plan is to double down on the tran stuff
and run Kamala again. I think they see what Trump
did and they're like, maybe we'll do that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I don't think that they understand there's there's something has
changed here fundamentally.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So here's one thing I would say. I'm a little
bit nervous about MSNBC being sold. What if somebody like
George Soros just buys it, doesn't care at all about
the about anything other than advocating for far left wing policies,
which they do already. But I mean at least Comcast
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in some way is as a larger corporate parent trying
to make money in every different direction. Right, Like Comcast
owns Bravo. You probably if you have uh, if you
got a wife and she is thirty to fifty, am I.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Gonna throw carry on the bus. I watch a lot
of I watch a lot of Bravo. I love that
million dollar listing show, Ryan Sirhead, Frederick Ecklund, I celebrate
the whole catalog.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So they're not selling that company. But my point is,
if you look at their overall catalog of networks, they're
trying to speak to as many different groups as they can.
My concern is that somebody like George Soros, a billionaire
left wing idiologue who I think is making awful choices
for the country as a whole, could decide to buy
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that company and try to be supremely impactful as a result.
And by the way, we've got can I ask.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You a question about this, though, you think if Soros
bought MSNBC, Clay, I think it would be I don't
think the editorial line would change at all. I think
it would be exactly what it is. I think MSNBC
is Soros approved without being Soros owned. You don't see
it that way.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Well, My concern is that without the constraints of larger
corporate parenting, that it could spin even further left wing.
Do you ever read The Nation?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I occasionally will click on a link on The Nation, okay,
because I used to read The Nation back in the day.
Again as part of my understanding the other they're insane, right, Like,
they're insane to the point where they actually have a
very small audience. So I don't to me if they tried,
if MSNBC tried to become the TV version of the
Nation or Salon dot Com, which I think they're pretty close,
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but if they went even further left, I think they
would just lose even more of the audience they have.
The people who watch Morning Joe are snobs who think
they know more about the news than they do. That's
really the I'm telling you, I know people who watch
it and don't watch it for mockery like I do.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'll give you another idea here. Bucks. So, in addition
to a super rich billionaire who's just a zealous left
wing advocate potentially buying MSNBC, I think it's not crazy
that MSNBC and CNN could merge because right now there
is Fox News, which has let's say sixty percent of
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the overall news audience fifty five percent whatever, Like most
of the time, Fox News standing alone has a bigger
audiences then CNN and MSNBC combined. Is there a need
for both CNN and MSNBC to exist or could you
merge them and create the left wing alternative to Fox
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News in one form so that you're not constantly having
to compete against each other. I could see that happening.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You've already had this consolidation occurring for a while. HLN
I don't even know what's on h I think it's
all like women who poison their husbands, like true crime stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
They basically did a way for people who don't like that.
What was headline news back in the day. It was
like a thirty minute or an hour long like distillation
of the news. Right, it was pretty popular. It depends
on what era I mean. I actually I was on
a pilot for HLN at one point in twenty fifteen,
was considering going as a Heartland news channel. There was
a moment where they were considering interesting and then they
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went and then they totally you know, Zucker was like
absolutely nonmate. So yeah, I was on a pilot with
Kaylee mcinnittie. Actually, oh wow, well, so I used to
watch Back in the day, you was hard to get
sports scores and headline news had a constantly updating. This
isn't like a kind of the pre Internet taking off
era when you didn't have phones that had scores on
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them like crazy. For those of you who are sports fans,
I bet some of you will remember this. You would
sit and watch a ticker at the bottom of the
screen on hl IN, and like every eight minutes or something,
they would update whatever score you cared about. That was
how you tried to tell who was winning if the
game wasn't on television. I just I think that all
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these brands have been these these Democrat corporate brands for news.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
They're really we call them propaganda and we mean it.
I mean, I think that they have become full on
vehicles for the advancement of partisan Democrat interests. I truly
believe that. I do not think that is an exaggeration
at all. But I think that they've also play back
to my Their professionalism is now a matter of not
just question. I think it's it's substance in doubt. You
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see what's happened and with with the combination of social
media the echo chamber effect that these guys are all
fighting over. You know, what is the what is the
huge advantage that Fox News has as a channel that's
in you know, all all the cable news homes across
the country, is that they have half the country to
generally get as their audience. Right, Yes, if you look
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at the other side of the aisle, you've got ABC,
NBCCBS all have these evening news shows. You've got MSNBC
and CNN, You've got you know, PBS, I think still
does some some kind of news thing. I mean, nobody
watches it, but they still have some news programming and
I'm probably forgetting some other stuff too. They're all fighting
for the same point of view, and I don't see
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that as as sustainable for them going forward, especially while
digital shows are getting better and better. More and more people,
even for like breaking news coverage and election night coverage,
are going for digital. Now they're going to I mean,
I don't know. I don't have a cable box or
cable TV, Clay, and I haven't for years. Yeah, And
this is just accelerating, accelerating. So this isn't just I know,
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we're getting a little inside baseball here about the media,
but this is also a sea change in the information
exchanges that exist in this country that directly affect politics,
that directly affect culture, and with that the direction of
the United States overall. I think it's a major shift.
It's kind of like it's happening, Clay. We've been waiting
for this to happen for about ten or fifteen years,
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and it's now happening finally.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I think it's going to accelerate even more in
this Trump era because so many people lost a ton
of legitimacy during COVID, and then saying Kablo is running
a great campaign, Joe Biden as sharp as attack, and
finally a lot of people are saying, I can't listen
to these guys anymore. That's the question you and I
have been asking for some time. I'll give you a
good analogy here as we go to break Warren Buffett says,
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over time, the stock market is basically a weighing mechanism.
That is, you weigh the value of a company, and
a company that's producing consistent earnings and everything else is
going to increase in value. I would submit to you
that trust in public is also a weighing mechanism. And
to your point earlier, Buck, the more time you spend
listening to someone, as soon as you know that they
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have told you things that are untrue, you should trust
them less, and when you are consistently told true things,
you should trust them more. And I think a lot
of shows like this one are winning, and I think
shows like Mika and Joe are collapsing. We've also got
some really funny clips that we need to play. As
they discussed the Mika Joe thing on CNN of all places.
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Speaker 2 (16:34):
Welcome back and play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. The crazy town is
getting ratcheted up in a real substantial way, and I
want to make sure that we have some fun and
you guys understand exactly how much the crazy Town is
continuing to grow. So we mentioned, you know, Migain Joe
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going to mar Lago. There have been a lot of
reactions to that. One of the things is Brian Stelter,
who Buck? Does he have the lowest testosterone level of
any man that appears regularly on television? Is that a
fair assessment?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We should legitimately send him a care package of like
chalk for six months to help my man out.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, So he went on CNN. They fired him and
now he's back. He went on CNN. You can't get
rid of him, You can't get that's right, you can't
get rid of him. He had a good cry. Remember
with one of the maybe the weakest media tweet of
all time. I curled up in the fetal position and
just had a good long cry. I still can't believe
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that's real. He went on and said Joe and Mika
had to go to mar Lago because they feared retribution.
Here's what that sounded like.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Joe Mika didn't say much about it today, but according
to my sources, they believed, they credibly were concerned that
they faced governmental and legal harassment with this incoming administration,
essentially that they feared retribution. To be fair to Brazinski
and Scarborough, they're not the only MSNBC hosts or the
only The word journalist is complicated, right because they're more
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like personalities. But there are a number of journalists at
place like the AP and other big news outlets that
are concerned about retaliation in the coming months.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Now.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I don't know exactly what the specific concern Joe Amika
had was or wasn't, but they're not the only MSNBC
personalities worried about retaliation. However, they are the only ones
to go down to mar A Lago and have a meeting.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
What I mean, it's okay. First of all, sources tell
me that there could stop. Okay, But to his credit,
block Scott Jennings, who is the most talented person I
think on air CNN right now, just openly mocked the
idea that Joe and Mika were afraid of Trump doing
something to them after Stelter said it this is on
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CNN to Stelter's face and Joy, I.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Mean, isn't it possible too that they're just two people
who thinks are.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
So full of themselves, so full of self.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Aggrandizement, that they would feel like that they would be
personally Scott, I don't.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Tell anyone, but some of their colleagues feel that way.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Well, I just, first of all, I can see why.
Second of all, if that's what happened, and if that's
what they truly believed, why didn't they go on TV
and say that we went down there to meet with
the president to tell him that, hey, anyone who's been
critical of you, you know, you should treat us like
journalists and not like the enemy. They didn't go on
TV and say that. They went on TV and portrayed
it much differently. So what I hear you saying in
your reporting is they had a motive that they weren't
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willing to disclose to their audience, which I think should
get them more scoring today than they were already getting
to begin with.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I think that's well said there's also one more clip.
I can't believe they let this guy keep going on.
So this was Michael Cohen who went on MSNBC and
says he's so afraid that he's now got a passport
in somebody else's name in case he has to flee
the country. This is from I believe MSNBC.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Listen, already working on foreign passport where a completely different name.
I don't know how it's going to work. As far
as dealing with my wife and my children. I certainly
don't want them moving to where I'm looking to go.
And I don't think yourself. The president of SNBC, General
Millie Liz Cheney. How many people has he turned around
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and said that these are people that I intend to
go after if I have the ability to.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And the worst is.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
The Supreme Court's recent decision that gave him immunity presidential immunity.
Now he thinks it's not only is it I can
do whatever I want, but I can't even be prosecuted
to get out of jail free card solely for the president.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
See here, Ada here, you leave the country.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
I have no choice.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, this is really funny, but let me start with
this book. You worked in the CIA. Would you advise
someone to go on television and say they're trying to
get a passport from a foreign country and a name
different than theirs. That seems like it's probably illegal on the.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
First test, You'll find a place where he can go
to a non extradition country and find himself, you know,
away from you guys in the Trump White House. What
a baby, clay, It's insane.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
First of all, the federal government can basically find you
anywhere in the world if they want to, So start
with that. Okay, Michael Cohen is not about to disappear
in the Hindukush and go.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Native, all right, It's not gonna be that hard to find.
Laughing about what country would he even go to?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, this is what I'm saying. Not if you look
up what non extradition countries, there's a lot of bad
countries you would not want to live in that are
not places you want to go. And fun fact, even
non extradition countries that just means they don't have an
extradition treaty. If the US government calls them and they're like, hey,
will you give this give this guy back to US,
chances are gonna say, yeah, we don't want this headache.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Would you just watch a reality television show of Michael
Cohen fleeing the country and having you go to like Haiti.
I was not gonna lie. I would watch the heck
out of that television show Michael Cohen in like, I
don't even know equators much for let's send him much further,
like Michael Cohen trying to go like all of a sudden,
he's a goat herter and Kyrgyzstan or something, you know
what I mean about.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
He's like, hey, is this how you milk? Is this
how you milk the goats? How do you milk the goats? Hey?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He said he didn't want to leave his family. I mean,
these people are so freaking crazy, They are so durant.
I think Jennings got this right when he said you
have to have a level of narcissism that is off
the charts for Trump to be elected and for your
first thought to be He's gonna put me in prison.
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I mean, he was already president. He hasn't put anybody
in prison. Like, why would he suddenly decide, Hey, you know,
I gotta go get the morning show host on MSNBC.
They can no longer talk to the seven hundred thousand
people who watch their show. They're too much of a
public threat. They've got to be in prison.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Also, you know, it's amazing Donald Trump, they actually did
try to lock him up. I mean, they really did
prosecute him for nonsense. And now they're thing is what if.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
He decides to prosecute us for nonsense?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And by the way, your idea of a Michael Cohen show, like,
I really, you know what the heck out of that?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know, all, what is the funniest country that Michael
Cohen could flee to for purposes? Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I mean Michael Cohen, Michael Cohen sneaking into North Korea?
Like at least Trump can't get me here. At least
that will be safe to.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Jogon might turn Michael Cohen back over to Trump because
I think they have a pretty good relationship.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Like it's true. I think Rocketman may say, we'll give
you back Michael. It's gonna be like, hey, Trump, here's
Michael Cohen back. What is the funniest non extraditable country.
First of all, it has to be a felony, right,
Am I crazy to use a fake name?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And get a foreign passport. That has to be something
that you could actually go to prison for. So going
on MSNBC and saying you're going to do that doesn't
seem very smart from a covert fleeing the country move.
Like if he did he had gone on and been like, Hey, yeah,
you know they got me on a lot of this
baby oil stuff. I'm in real trouble. I'm gonna get
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a fake passport and I'm gonna go to somebody do
research on the list of non extraditable countries.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh, I can I can name? I mean, I I could. Uh,
you want to know some of them? You got?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Cuba is all there, right, Cuba, Cuba might be the
best to go.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's you closest. So that's actually one that people have
made it to when they want it. If you don't
ever want to be arrested in the Cuban government's not
gonna arrest If you make it to Cuba, you're not gonna
get you're not gonna get deported or you're not going
to get to extradited. But you're gonna be in Cuba
and hope that they're treating you well. Good luck with that.
North Korea, Russia, China and Gola. I don't think Lebanon
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has an extradition treaty with the United States.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You know that's right, because what's the guy's name who
fled and was formerly like the huge auto executive that
got smuggled out of Japan. He got into into be Root, right,
and he's been able to stay there. Yeah, so Lebanon's
on the list.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I mean the countries overwhelmingly that are on that list
are countries you'd be like, I don't want to live there.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
What is the funniest country on the list that we
could get Michael Cohen to go to and do a
reality television show about it? All right, I'm looking up
right now, I mean there are like if you're looking,
I mean, I don't know how long he'd last in Somalia,
Like that would be kind of a survival show for him,
that Michael Cohen as a Somali pilot Pirate would be
a show I would watch. I'm the Captain now, I
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would be all in on that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Vietnam. Vietnam is actually really actually really enjoyed my time
in Vietnam when I visited. So that's a good that's
a good place to go. The Central African Republic. I
think they've been through decades of like the worst war, famine, disease,
and Huang Guy Bon.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Guy Cohen and Bon Guy would be a heck of
a look. I don't imagine there's a lot of white
Americans that are choosing to live in in in Bon guys.
Here are some of the ones. Some of the Iran
would be amazing, Michael Cohen, and Iran would be like
showing up with the Ayatola chillin.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I can you imagine the zooms I have converted to Islam.
It is a beautiful religion. I am now an Iranian citizen.
Michael Cohen. Uh yeah, good luck with that one too.
That'd be a lot of fun to Americans. Doesn't seem
like that would be a really smart move. But maybe
maybe he would be a great fit thing. Afghanistan. Afghanistan
with a Taliban in charge. Mind you like, there's no
(26:23):
more you know, it's not like the Northern Alliance is
gonna keep you safe in the North anymore. Yikes. Not good,
not a fun, not a fun place to be. So
there's a I mean, the list is pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And by the way, I'm I'm all in. I encourage
Michael Cohen to commit a felony, get an illegal passport,
change with with a fake name, and then I want
him to go to Iran. I want him to go
to uh Cambodia. I want him to go to one
of these countries that I have no idea about. And
I would watch a reality television show about Michael Cohen
starting his life back over there. Sure he has a
(26:56):
lot of marketable skills. Smally pirate Michael Cohen. I mean,
I I would try that out. I mean, you know
this guy was. It's amazing too.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
He was Trump's lawyer for so many years, and now
he's talking about fleeing the country and having to get
a passport, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Buck he's bragging about that has to again, it has
to be a felony to get a foreign passport under
a different name, Like that can't be legal. I mean,
if you if I told you, like you your brother,
you've got a single brother. If your brother was like, hey,
I got a new girlfriend and you're like, what does
she do? Well, I'm not really sure, but she has
(27:34):
a foreign passport in a different name, you'd be like,
you know, maybe you could pride somebody else to date
it's not a great choice.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Problem for sure. Yeah. I look, Michael Cohen is not
leaving the country. It's absurd.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
You know, I think I mentioned that Ava Longoria, you know,
and and I think we mentioned on the show that
she actually is. She's already been out so she lives
in like Madrid, and you know, she lives in fancy
places around the world already, So it's not like she's
giving up her life in America. She already spends most
of the year abroad, So that wasn't some big change.
But she's saying, oh, yeah, I'm going to live abroad. Also,
(28:09):
Like it's just so silly, isn't it, you know what
I mean? Like, what are I really even talking about?
What do they think is going to happen to them?
There's bigger there's bigger fish to fry. I do give
them credit.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
At least if you say, if somebody wins an election
in either direction that you are leaving the country, you
should have to leave the country, because ninety nine percent
of the people who say if Trump wins, I'm leaving
the country never leave. At least, if you're gonna make
that statement, follow up with it when the election actually
(28:39):
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to go.
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And welcome back in and play Travis Buck Sexton Show
Buck God. What did to make sure? I mentioned this
because I think we discussed it on the program back
when it happened. Spirit Airlines has filed for bankruptcy. Why
does that matter? Okay, some of you might fly Spirit Airlines.
It's the holidays. They say that they're going to have
their full flight of normal airplanes and everything else going on.
(30:20):
They're not canceling. But I do think this is significant
and I haven't heard very many people talking about it.
They tried to merge with Jet Blue and Team correct
me if I'm wrong. I believe it was Jet Blue
that they were merging with, and if you were a
Spirit Airlines shareholder, you stood to make a lot of
(30:40):
money over that merger. A federal judge looked at that
merger said this will hurt consumers, it will create antitrust
related issues, and he refused to allow the merger to happen.
And now Spirit Airlines has gone bankrupt and every shareholder
(31:01):
has been completely wiped out. In other words, that judge
was one billion percent wrong and that company doesn't exist
now because he said the merger can't happen. Now, Buck,
how does that federal judge get to keep his job.
We let one dude who nobody elected, sit and look
(31:23):
at all the evidence, and that federal judge got everything
completely wrong, wiped out billions of dollars in shareholder equity,
and now there is absolutely nothing that happens to him
at all. I don't know how you could be more
wrong than to say, hey, consumers are not going to
benefit if this merger happens. Well, now the entire company
(31:47):
is bankrupt. Why are there no consequences when people get
things objectively wrong? Shouldn't something happen to this guy like
the judge when you when you get you.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Couldn't right, judge. I don't know if this would be
the big I mean, unfortunately, being a moron usually isn't
considered being an impeachable offense. Otherwise, be a lot of
people getting impeached.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
But I mean for multi billion dollars of shareholder equity
to just be wiped out and this guy to be
completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
We saw the aversion of this not quite as not
disastrous and with a happy ending. But remember when they
Elon's pay package for Tesla Y. This was based on
metrics that he hit that The shareholders were like, he's
never going to hit those he did. Some judge in
Delaware was like, he shouldn't get that money. Yeah, no,
the judiciary needs to be rated. And it's a bigger conversation. Well,
(32:37):
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Use Code Radio. Clay Travis here, Happy Thanksgiving from all
of us at the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us on this fabulous Wednesday across the nation
as many people get ready, by the way, to celebrate
(33:56):
Thanksgiving coming up next week. We're about eight days away,
I think exactly from Thanksgiving. I know many of you
are going to be starting your travels, and certainly we'd
encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast so you
can take us with you wherever you might be going.
I know my family is going to start traveling on Friday,
parts of it to meet up all over the country.
And I imagine a lot of you are as well.
(34:17):
So it's a good time to go subscribe to the
podcast to get the entire podcast network, and you can
take us with you wherever you may be around the
country or indeed around the world. I wanted to make
sure we hit this because it's an awful story, but
I do think it's important because for many people, the
failures of the Biden administration at the border have unfortunately
(34:38):
led to violence all over the country. Illegal immigrants have
committed acts of violence against innocent American citizens and nowhere
to my knowledge, has gotten more attention than the murder
of Lake and Riley in the Athens area of Georgia,
where I was over the weekend. It remains a huge
(35:00):
and the criminal trial of her killer, and it is
now you can say directly her killer has ended and
he has been convicted of murder and will spend the
rest of his life in prison. Now we will talk
about that in a moment, but in the meantime, I
wanted all of you to be able to hear because
(35:21):
we have talked a lot. Again Buck they try to say, oh, well,
immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than American citizens do,
and First of all, I don't know that I buy
that when you actually break it down, because many illegal
immigrants are young men, and young men overwhelmingly commit most
violent acts. So it stands to reason that if the
majority of illegal immigrants are young men, actually young men,
(35:44):
whether they're illegal or legal, commit the vast majority of
violent crimes. So I'm not sure i'd buy the statistic
as it is reported. But here's the deal. It should
be zero because we should not have illegal immigration in
this country, So any crime that occurs that is result
of an illegal immigrant illegally entering this country should never
be allowed to occur. And before we play the result,
(36:06):
I want to read this because this was well said,
I thought distilling exactly what happened. Bill Malujin shared this
about exactly what happened with the Lake and Riley case
and why it was such a failure on so many
different levels that this was ever allowed to happen at all.
Here's how many ways that the government failed. Her killer
(36:29):
was in federal custody after crossing the border illegally. Released,
he was released again in the sanctuary city of New
York City after an arrest ice was not notified about
that arrest. New York City then gave him a taxpayer
funded flight to Georgia. According to the testimony of one
(36:50):
of his roommates. Again, all of that, multiple failures that
led to the murder of a completely innocent woman out
for a jog in Athens, Georgia. And this is what
it just sounded like when the verdict was read.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
Count one malice murder. I send you to life without
the possibility to parole. Count two will be vacated as
a matter of operation of law. Count three vacated by
operation of law. Count four vaca co operation of law.
(37:24):
Count five life in prison, consecutive to Count one. Count
six twenty years to serve consecutive to Count five. Count
seven will merge with Count one, Count eight.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I think we can stop the reading, but I wanted
you to hear what was going on in that courtroom. Buck.
Here's the deal. Not only as Lake and Riley, she
should still be alive and I can't even imagine what
her family is going through. But she is emblematic of
something that is happening in your state, in your city
because of theres of border security. But in addition to
(38:03):
all those failures, now American taxpayers have to pay for
this guy to spend the rest of his life in
a Georgia prison sale. So this is in no way
actual justice, in in in in any kind of use
of the word justice in my mind, because we continued
to have to pay the price of his illegal actions
(38:26):
to keep him alive in our prisons.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I have to wonder why he can't be executed expeditiously
as a matter of as a matter of law here,
I guess they've just decided in this case. Look, I
understand the death penalty is a controversial thing for some
people or for a lot of people. But if there's
ever a case that seems to be a clear indicator
(38:52):
of when the death penalty should be applied, you would
think this would this would meet that standard I'm talking
about just morally. It put aside the counts and specifics
of the statutes. Here, we're failing people like Lake and
Riley and her family, meaning the United States, the United
States government, the judicial system, immigration system. This is not
(39:14):
somebody snuck across the border. We couldn't know and then
they did a horrible thing. This is authorities had this
guy in custody multiple times and decided to let him
out of custody, and he has now gone on to
commit a heinous rape and murder. This is exactly why
the American people who are at least paying attention and
(39:36):
living in reality are so outraged about the wide open
Biden border. Give credit to all of those who have
been pointing out, including Dan Crenshaw of Congresson from Texas
spreading about how why do we all know what trend
Aragua is now? Congresson Crenshaw's correct, we all know what
trend to Aragua is now, which is a ultra violent
(40:00):
Latin American gang, because the terrible stuff that they're doing
has gotten a lot of news coverage. And it's a
bunch of illegals who have come into the country and
are raping and murdering and you know, stealing and doing
all the things that they shouldn't be doing. They should
never be allowed to be doing in the first place,
because they shouldn't even be here in the country. But Clay,
(40:21):
you know, there's this pattern, and you see this the
people that say, especially the Democrats, who don't want us
to be able to arm ourselves or defend ourselves, which well,
I mean, I can never live again living in a
free state that allows me to defend myself like Florida does.
I could never go back to a state I just
couldn't where they say, sorry, you're disarmed, Sorry you are
at the whim of the state. Can't do it, wouldn't
(40:42):
do it, won't allow You know, I have to defend
my wife, I have to defend my family, and so
I have a total mind change or you know, sort
of a mentality change about even being able to live
in a blue state. Going forward, look.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
What happened in New York.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You had three people stabbed by some maniac running around
with a knife, two of them killed the middle of
the day from what I if I remember correctly, running
across Midtown Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
The guy had been arrested eight times.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
He's a violent, crazy, lunatic who's been arrested by police
eight times and is still on the street and has
now murdered two people. Those two families now have to
bear that horrible pain of losing a family member to
a completely random, hatous crime. Lake and Riley's family members
have to bear that horrible pain that birded of their
(41:31):
little girl murdered by this monster. And it never should
have happened because the authorities had the ability to stop
it and chose not to because the Democrat Party and
the corporate Democrat media and the left in this country
and the open borders maniacs have decided that being an
(41:53):
illegal is some kind of special status in this country.
You can not only break our laws by coming here,
you can can continue to break our laws. And we
don't want to seem racist, we don't want to seem xenophobics.
So you get to stay until you finally do something
so bad even MSNBC has to say, I guess we.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Should lock that guy up. This is going to be tough,
but I want you guys to hear it. This was
the stepfather of Lake and Riley, twenty two years old.
After she was murdered, raped by an illegal immigrant. They
found her diary, her journal that she kept, and he
(42:31):
read in the courtroom one of the final diary entries
that she would ever do of her entire life. He
read that in the courtroom. We have that for you
right now. If you have a daughter, you have a granddaughter,
you have someone that you care about that could have
been Lake and Riley. Listen to what she wanted to
(42:52):
do with the rest of her life.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
To my future husband. I want you to know that
I'm thinking about you, and I'm working every day to
become the best wife I can be, working through my
current relationships to best prepared me for hours and our kids.
One day, I'm focusing on God and what he defines
(43:18):
a faithful Christian life and so that I can best
embody those characteristics. I pray that you know that is
with my full faith and trust in God, that I
know this relationship has been handcrafted by Him. I pray
that we continue to glorify the Lord, prioritize Him in
every aspect of our lives, and raise our family our
(43:41):
future family, to be God fearing Christians as well. I
pray God is the center of our relationship. It is
as it is a gift from Him. I thank Him
for you before I even know you, and can't wait
to love you in the best way I know how
for the rest of our lives. I pray you know
(44:03):
and feel the importance of my love and hopes for
our relationship. No matter what challenges we face. I pray
that our trust in God and love from one another
overrules the obstacle. May our relationship last forever. Your future wife.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Lacoln Okay, I mean that is hard to listen to.
That is John Phillips, the stepdad of Lake and Riley,
reading one of her final injuries. For anybody who just
heard that, how in the world are there no consequences
for the people that allowed this to happen. I'm sorry,
(44:43):
I mean it is indefensible to me, Buck that we
have allowed this to occur. And Lake and Riley is
not alone. There are thousands of innocent people. You just
heard what she wanted to do with the rest of
her life, that this country failed and their families are
going to be suffering for the rest of their lives
(45:04):
because of the Biden Kamala administration and what they allowed
to happen.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
The open borders zealots, and that is now the entirety
of the Democrat Party and the Democrat apparatus. They've changed nothing, Clay.
They still want illegals who are supposed to be deported
because of additional crimes to not be deported. Look at
how they're fighting against the incoming Trump administrations plans on
(45:29):
this already. Los Angeles is declaring itself, you know, an
even more sanctuary city than it was before, which I
don't even know how that's possible. They don't think. Here's
the fundamental thing everyone has to understand. This happens Lake
and Riley. A terrible case like this happens, and the
media covers it, and then the Democrats go back to
pushing for exactly the same policies that led to her death,
(45:52):
rape and murder. They do not change, They do not care.
They think that we need third world illegals piling into
this place by the millions, because that's what America deserves,
because that's the America they want to live in. And
if people have to be raped and murdered and killed
by some of them who we know are criminals, who
we know shouldn't be here at all, that is the
cost that Democrats are willing to pay in order to
(46:15):
make America a more multicultural, multi ethnic state. That is
the fundamental truth of their policy on immigration. This is
the cost that they choose to bear. Everything's remember that,
by the way, the third victim was actually killed in
that New York City stabbing was a mother of a
nine year old. A mom of a nine year old
just died in the hospital of her wounds. So three
(46:35):
people stabbed to death by somebody that the NYPD had
in their custody eight times. Nobody thought we should do
anything about this guy. Nobody thought he should be committed.
You're gonna tell me it wasn't obvious that he was
a maniac who was a threat to people on the street.
You get arrested eight times, you don't serve any real
time in prison. Hey, this is the state is failing people.
(46:56):
And this is why when a lot of people see
the Daniel Penn case in New York and they say,
and now we punish men who step up when the
state fails to defend people, to defend women, to defend
children from maniacs that the state chooses not to defend
us from. We're going to punish that guy. That's Alvin
(47:17):
Bragg's New York City. Your tax dollars got this guy
to New York City. Your tax dollars put this rapist
and a murderer on a plane to Georgia, and now
your tax dollars are going to keep him alive for
the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I'm sorry. The fact that there are no consequences for
everyone who opened the southern border May yorkas should be
imprisoned for the rest of his life honestly, and I
know he's acting on the behest of Biden and Kamala,
But if you're Lake and Riley's family, and again there
are Lake and Riley's in every state and every city
(47:54):
of any substantial size in America today, how in the
world can there not be constantins for that?
Speaker 1 (48:00):
And what's the worst crime Clay Biden's DHS intentionally allowing
people to defraud the United States government and come into
the country by the millions, knowing that's exactly what's going on,
and knowing that people are going to be raped and
murdered by some of those illegals. Or listing a expense
as a lawyer expense when it's a hush money expense.
I mean, yeah, one of these things was prosecuted and
(48:21):
the other wasn't good news.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
And I know that's awful, awful story, But I wanted
you guys, because we have talked about the Lake and
Riley case. I wanted you guys to know the conviction
had happened. But I also wanted you to be able
to hear effectively her voice one more time through her
stepfather's reading in that courtroom. Look, Christmas thirty five days
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Looking in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. We roll through the Wednesday
edition of the program. We have got a ton of
different crazy stories out there to chase. We're gonna have
a lot of fun with all of you. There is
a trans congress person and there is a discussion which
(00:29):
has never been needed before about Hey, which bathrooms is
the fake woman going to use? We will discuss some
of that. Sonny Houstin and Matt Gaiths, what do you
think it's fake woman? Okay? Is that too strong? Right
out of the game. I think we just go with man.
I think we just go with man man versus fake woman.
(00:49):
I can see the arguments in either direction. I think
fake woman just calls out the absurdity more than just
calling him a man. But I'm open to both arguments
coming in hot out of the gate, sunny hostin, Matt Gates,
that's gonna be fun. Elon Musk buys Twitter and suddenly
there is a balancing act. Left wingers going insane. We've
(01:10):
got a lot of different clips for you that we
will have fun with. But Buck, we begin with your
two favorite people in all of media. Joe Scarborough and
Mika Perzinski remain under fire over their decision to go
and have a meal with Donald Trump on Friday, and
I actually think it all made sense yesterday afternoon when
(01:32):
an alert popped on my phone from the Wall Street
Journal saying that Comcast now intends to spin off MSNBC
and other of their cable assets. So let me just
kind of tell you what happened here on Friday. I
believe Meek and Joe, at the behest potentially of their
bosses or certainly not being discouraged from the decision, went
(01:57):
tomorrow Lago bent the knee to Donald Trump and basically said, Hey, MSNBC.
I think they were delivering a message. MSNBC is going
to play nice with you in the early days of
your administration. The idea that you are hitler is going
to be cast aside. Congratulations on your win again. We're
(02:17):
gonna kiss the ring, We're gonna bend the knee. Monday,
and I thought that was strange. I thought it was
stranger still, Buck on Monday, as we talked about on
this program. When Meek n Joe decided to tell their
audience that they had gone to see Trump. News didn't
leak on Saturday or Sunday or Friday. There are lots
of people going to see Trump. I saw him on Thursday. Like,
(02:39):
there isn't if you don't post a photo and you
don't tweet about it or whatever else, there's no real story.
I don't think going to come out. But meeken Joe
felt compelled to discuss their meeting with Donald Trump Tuesday afternoon. Buck,
I was like, it all makes sense now, win the
news from the Wall Street Journal broke. So Friday you
apologize Ben the Nee to Trump. Monday you tell your
(02:59):
audience you did it. Tuesday it's announced that MSNBC is
for sale, and I believe we have a cut from
Joe Scarborough awkwardly saying, hey, we could get fired at
any point to discuss that Comcast is done within the MSNBC. Listen,
I will say really quickly on this.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know it drives at the top, said, oh, like
news melt down, all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean, I could be completely wrong. We could all
be fired a year from that. A little bit of
it has happens. You never know what's going to happen tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But in this case, though, what they're doing is what
other media firms are doing. You spin off the cable
channels which seven years ago were making a ton of money.
Now they've got to figure out how to make them profitable.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, so this is a big story, and I do
think there's a panic setting in on MSNBC and CNN.
But Buck, this ties everything together. When you and I
were sitting back and we were saying, Okay, why did
this happen? Do you agree with me that it's clearly
just an attempt because truck now controls a lot of
decisions when it comes to mergers, when it comes to
acquisitions through the federal government, Comcast trying to be nice,
(04:07):
make nice with Trump to make him less likely to
withhold regulatory approval when it comes to media divestiture.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Here, I don't know what entities like MSNBC or Morning
Joe more specifically, really think that they can do at
this point to regain whatever credibility. Maybe is too much
of an eye of the beholder thing, but just the
professionalism that you would expect of a news organization. I
(04:37):
think that was one of the few things that the CNNs,
the MSNBC's, the Washington posts of the world we're holding
on to. Okay, maybe we're outright partisans, but there's a
level of baseline intellectual honesty or a level of baseline
you know, just doing this job in a way that
(05:00):
is professional. I don't know how better to say it
than that. And really the whole thing is a clown show.
And they were calling Trump hitler and saying absurd things,
and it was wrong, and it didn't even do anything.
It didn't stop Trump from being elected. And so I
think that there's a scramble right now for relevance and
to maintain whatever audience that they have. And the more
(05:21):
information is freely exchanged on X. I think Elon's purchase
of Twitter and transforming it into x is all part
of this. The more people can get through information in
real time from people that they trust because they're people
who tell them the truth. Right, That's one one thing
I'll say here is we hate getting anything wrong. It
(05:41):
bothers me, like it sticks in my brain at night
when I'm trying to go to sleep, even if we
have to come on and correct it, correct it the
next day. We're not always right about predictions. Why we
make predictions here and take other sides of the bets sometimes,
but we never want to tell you anything that is untrue,
that's embarrassing to us. It is un these other news
outlets and networks, they don't really care. It's just all
(06:05):
about emotional manipulation of an audience that has been primed
to think that Donald Trump is a is a fascist.
And so I think now, Clay people, more and more
are just going to turn to who has been telling
me the truth for a period of time, Like who
do I trust as a news source that that has
been there and accurate and honest. And when I say
(06:26):
news source, I don't necessarily mean newsroom obviously, like we don't.
We're not a news agency here, but we do a
lot of news in conversation and what we tell people
is accurate. So I think that's it. I think it's
the death knell of much of the cable news apparatus.
I mean, look, Fox News didn't say that Trump is hitler,
so they didn't take that hit right. Fox News is
(06:48):
generally pretty pro Trump, and I would say the news shows,
I mean, you watch Brett Behar's show, it's a news show. Yeah,
and they have commentary and they have respectful exchange of
ideas on that panel. I think it's one of the
better panels you'll find anywhere on TV. And they do
the news and like you cannot necessarily agree the editorial line,
but they're not insane. Morning Joe went crazy. I mean
(07:10):
Morning Joe was talking about how cat Turd, which is
a Twitter account, I was watching this.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's like cat Turd gets to weigh in on the
nominees for Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
He's really talking about this.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
They've gone, They've gone off the rails, they have jumped
the shark, and I don't know if they can ever
come back together. And I'm fascinated, Clay by, what does
the Democrat coalition look like? Have you seen the data
that shows the number one choice of Democrats as of
right now for the next election.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I just saw this on X Yeah. We could have
some fun with that. I mean, Kamala is the choice.
I think it's primarily name recognition.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Overwhelmingly the choice. Clay, Yeah, Kamala is overwhelming me, Like
forty five percent I think was what I saw compared
to a a you know, distant second place finisher. If
their plan is to double down on the tran stuff
and run Kamala again. I think they see what Trump
did and they're like, maybe we'll do that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I don't think that they understand there's there's something has
changed here fundamentally.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So here's one thing I would say. I'm a little
bit nervous about MSNBC being sold. What if somebody like
George Soros just buys it, doesn't care at all about
the about anything other than advocating for far left wing policies,
which they do already. But I mean at least Comcast
(08:33):
in some way is as a larger corporate parent trying
to make money in every different direction. Right, Like Comcast
owns Bravo. You probably if you have uh, if you
got a wife and she is thirty to fifty, am I.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Gonna throw carry on the bus. I watch a lot
of I watch a lot of Bravo. I love that
million dollar listing show, Ryan Sirhead, Frederick Ecklund, I celebrate
the whole catalog.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So they're not selling that company. But my point is,
if you look at their overall catalog of networks, they're
trying to speak to as many different groups as they can.
My concern is that somebody like George Soros, a billionaire
left wing idiologue who I think is making awful choices
for the country as a whole, could decide to buy
(09:21):
that company and try to be supremely impactful as a result.
And by the way, we've got can I ask.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You a question about this, though, you think if Soros
bought MSNBC, Clay, I think it would be I don't
think the editorial line would change at all. I think
it would be exactly what it is. I think MSNBC
is Soros approved without being Soros owned. You don't see
it that way.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Well, My concern is that without the constraints of larger
corporate parenting, that it could spin even further left wing.
Do you ever read The Nation?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I occasionally will click on a link on The Nation, okay,
because I used to read The Nation back in the day.
Again as part of my understanding the other they're insane, right, Like,
they're insane to the point where they actually have a
very small audience. So I don't to me if they tried,
if MSNBC tried to become the TV version of the
Nation or Salon dot Com, which I think they're pretty close,
(10:16):
but if they went even further left, I think they
would just lose even more of the audience they have.
The people who watch Morning Joe are snobs who think
they know more about the news than they do. That's
really the I'm telling you, I know people who watch
it and don't watch it for mockery like I do.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'll give you another idea here. Bucks. So, in addition
to a super rich billionaire who's just a zealous left
wing advocate potentially buying MSNBC, I think it's not crazy
that MSNBC and CNN could merge because right now there
is Fox News, which has let's say sixty percent of
(10:52):
the overall news audience fifty five percent whatever, Like most
of the time, Fox News standing alone has a bigger
audiences then CNN and MSNBC combined. Is there a need
for both CNN and MSNBC to exist or could you
merge them and create the left wing alternative to Fox
(11:13):
News in one form so that you're not constantly having
to compete against each other. I could see that happening.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You've already had this consolidation occurring for a while. HLN
I don't even know what's on h I think it's
all like women who poison their husbands, like true crime stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
They basically did a way for people who don't like that.
What was headline news back in the day. It was
like a thirty minute or an hour long like distillation
of the news. Right, it was pretty popular. It depends
on what era I mean. I actually I was on
a pilot for HLN at one point in twenty fifteen,
was considering going as a Heartland news channel. There was
a moment where they were considering interesting and then they
(11:52):
went and then they totally you know, Zucker was like
absolutely nonmate. So yeah, I was on a pilot with
Kaylee mcinnittie. Actually, oh wow, well, so I used to
watch Back in the day, you was hard to get
sports scores and headline news had a constantly updating. This
isn't like a kind of the pre Internet taking off
era when you didn't have phones that had scores on
(12:13):
them like crazy. For those of you who are sports fans,
I bet some of you will remember this. You would
sit and watch a ticker at the bottom of the
screen on hl IN, and like every eight minutes or something,
they would update whatever score you cared about. That was
how you tried to tell who was winning if the
game wasn't on television. I just I think that all
(12:33):
these brands have been these these Democrat corporate brands for news.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
They're really we call them propaganda and we mean it.
I mean, I think that they have become full on
vehicles for the advancement of partisan Democrat interests. I truly
believe that. I do not think that is an exaggeration
at all. But I think that they've also play back
to my Their professionalism is now a matter of not
just question. I think it's it's substance in doubt. You
(13:01):
see what's happened and with with the combination of social
media the echo chamber effect that these guys are all
fighting over. You know, what is the what is the
huge advantage that Fox News has as a channel that's
in you know, all all the cable news homes across
the country, is that they have half the country to
generally get as their audience. Right, Yes, if you look
(13:23):
at the other side of the aisle, you've got ABC,
NBCCBS all have these evening news shows. You've got MSNBC
and CNN, You've got you know, PBS, I think still
does some some kind of news thing. I mean, nobody
watches it, but they still have some news programming and
I'm probably forgetting some other stuff too. They're all fighting
for the same point of view, and I don't see
(13:44):
that as as sustainable for them going forward, especially while
digital shows are getting better and better. More and more people,
even for like breaking news coverage and election night coverage,
are going for digital. Now they're going to I mean,
I don't know. I don't have a cable box or
cable TV, Clay, and I haven't for years. Yeah, And
this is just accelerating, accelerating. So this isn't just I know,
(14:05):
we're getting a little inside baseball here about the media,
but this is also a sea change in the information
exchanges that exist in this country that directly affect politics,
that directly affect culture, and with that the direction of
the United States overall. I think it's a major shift.
It's kind of like it's happening, Clay. We've been waiting
for this to happen for about ten or fifteen years,
(14:28):
and it's now happening finally.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I think it's going to accelerate even more in
this Trump era because so many people lost a ton
of legitimacy during COVID, and then saying Kablo is running
a great campaign, Joe Biden as sharp as attack, and
finally a lot of people are saying, I can't listen
to these guys anymore. That's the question you and I
have been asking for some time. I'll give you a
good analogy here as we go to break Warren Buffett says,
(14:52):
over time, the stock market is basically a weighing mechanism.
That is, you weigh the value of a company, and
a company that's producing consistent earnings and everything else is
going to increase in value. I would submit to you
that trust in public is also a weighing mechanism. And
to your point earlier, Buck, the more time you spend
listening to someone, as soon as you know that they
(15:12):
have told you things that are untrue, you should trust
them less, and when you are consistently told true things,
you should trust them more. And I think a lot
of shows like this one are winning, and I think
shows like Mika and Joe are collapsing. We've also got
some really funny clips that we need to play. As
they discussed the Mika Joe thing on CNN of all places.
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Speaker 2 (16:34):
Welcome back and play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. The crazy town is
getting ratcheted up in a real substantial way, and I
want to make sure that we have some fun and
you guys understand exactly how much the crazy Town is
continuing to grow. So we mentioned, you know, Migain Joe
(16:56):
going to mar Lago. There have been a lot of
reactions to that. One of the things is Brian Stelter,
who Buck? Does he have the lowest testosterone level of
any man that appears regularly on television? Is that a
fair assessment?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We should legitimately send him a care package of like
chalk for six months to help my man out.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, So he went on CNN. They fired him and
now he's back. He went on CNN. You can't get
rid of him, You can't get that's right, you can't
get rid of him. He had a good cry. Remember
with one of the maybe the weakest media tweet of
all time. I curled up in the fetal position and
just had a good long cry. I still can't believe
(17:38):
that's real. He went on and said Joe and Mika
had to go to mar Lago because they feared retribution.
Here's what that sounded like.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Joe Mika didn't say much about it today, but according
to my sources, they believed, they credibly were concerned that
they faced governmental and legal harassment with this incoming administration,
essentially that they feared retribution. To be fair to Brazinski
and Scarborough, they're not the only MSNBC hosts or the
only The word journalist is complicated, right because they're more
(18:09):
like personalities. But there are a number of journalists at
place like the AP and other big news outlets that
are concerned about retaliation in the coming months.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Now.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I don't know exactly what the specific concern Joe Amika
had was or wasn't, but they're not the only MSNBC
personalities worried about retaliation. However, they are the only ones
to go down to mar A Lago and have a meeting.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
What I mean, it's okay. First of all, sources tell
me that there could stop. Okay, But to his credit,
block Scott Jennings, who is the most talented person I
think on air CNN right now, just openly mocked the
idea that Joe and Mika were afraid of Trump doing
something to them after Stelter said it this is on
(18:50):
CNN to Stelter's face and Joy, I.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Mean, isn't it possible too that they're just two people
who thinks are.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
So full of themselves, so full of self.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Aggrandizement, that they would feel like that they would be
personally Scott, I don't.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Tell anyone, but some of their colleagues feel that way.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Well, I just, first of all, I can see why.
Second of all, if that's what happened, and if that's
what they truly believed, why didn't they go on TV
and say that we went down there to meet with
the president to tell him that, hey, anyone who's been
critical of you, you know, you should treat us like
journalists and not like the enemy. They didn't go on
TV and say that. They went on TV and portrayed
it much differently. So what I hear you saying in
your reporting is they had a motive that they weren't
(19:27):
willing to disclose to their audience, which I think should
get them more scoring today than they were already getting
to begin with.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I think that's well said there's also one more clip.
I can't believe they let this guy keep going on.
So this was Michael Cohen who went on MSNBC and
says he's so afraid that he's now got a passport
in somebody else's name in case he has to flee
the country. This is from I believe MSNBC.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Listen, already working on foreign passport where a completely different name.
I don't know how it's going to work. As far
as dealing with my wife and my children. I certainly
don't want them moving to where I'm looking to go.
And I don't think yourself. The president of SNBC, General
Millie Liz Cheney. How many people has he turned around
(20:17):
and said that these are people that I intend to
go after if I have the ability to.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And the worst is.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
The Supreme Court's recent decision that gave him immunity presidential immunity.
Now he thinks it's not only is it I can
do whatever I want, but I can't even be prosecuted
to get out of jail free card solely for the president.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
See here, Ada here, you leave the country.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
I have no choice.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, this is really funny, but let me start with
this book. You worked in the CIA. Would you advise
someone to go on television and say they're trying to
get a passport from a foreign country and a name
different than theirs. That seems like it's probably illegal on the.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
First test, You'll find a place where he can go
to a non extradition country and find himself, you know,
away from you guys in the Trump White House. What
a baby, clay, It's insane.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
First of all, the federal government can basically find you
anywhere in the world if they want to, So start
with that. Okay, Michael Cohen is not about to disappear
in the Hindukush and go.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Native, all right, It's not gonna be that hard to find.
Laughing about what country would he even go to?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, this is what I'm saying. Not if you look
up what non extradition countries, there's a lot of bad
countries you would not want to live in that are
not places you want to go. And fun fact, even
non extradition countries that just means they don't have an
extradition treaty. If the US government calls them and they're like, hey,
will you give this give this guy back to US,
chances are gonna say, yeah, we don't want this headache.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Would you just watch a reality television show of Michael
Cohen fleeing the country and having you go to like Haiti.
I was not gonna lie. I would watch the heck
out of that television show Michael Cohen in like, I
don't even know equators much for let's send him much further,
like Michael Cohen trying to go like all of a sudden,
he's a goat herter and Kyrgyzstan or something, you know
what I mean about.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
He's like, hey, is this how you milk? Is this
how you milk the goats? How do you milk the goats? Hey?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He said he didn't want to leave his family. I mean,
these people are so freaking crazy, They are so durant.
I think Jennings got this right when he said you
have to have a level of narcissism that is off
the charts for Trump to be elected and for your
first thought to be He's gonna put me in prison.
(22:33):
I mean, he was already president. He hasn't put anybody
in prison. Like, why would he suddenly decide, Hey, you know,
I gotta go get the morning show host on MSNBC.
They can no longer talk to the seven hundred thousand
people who watch their show. They're too much of a
public threat. They've got to be in prison.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Also, you know, it's amazing Donald Trump, they actually did
try to lock him up. I mean, they really did
prosecute him for nonsense. And now they're thing is what if.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
He decides to prosecute us for nonsense?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And by the way, your idea of a Michael Cohen show, like,
I really, you know what the heck out of that?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know, all, what is the funniest country that Michael
Cohen could flee to for purposes? Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I mean Michael Cohen, Michael Cohen sneaking into North Korea?
Like at least Trump can't get me here. At least
that will be safe to.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Jogon might turn Michael Cohen back over to Trump because
I think they have a pretty good relationship.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Like it's true. I think Rocketman may say, we'll give
you back Michael. It's gonna be like, hey, Trump, here's
Michael Cohen back. What is the funniest non extraditable country.
First of all, it has to be a felony, right,
Am I crazy to use a fake name?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And get a foreign passport. That has to be something
that you could actually go to prison for. So going
on MSNBC and saying you're going to do that doesn't
seem very smart from a covert fleeing the country move.
Like if he did he had gone on and been like, Hey, yeah,
you know they got me on a lot of this
baby oil stuff. I'm in real trouble. I'm gonna get
(24:09):
a fake passport and I'm gonna go to somebody do
research on the list of non extraditable countries.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh, I can I can name? I mean, I I could. Uh,
you want to know some of them? You got?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Cuba is all there, right, Cuba, Cuba might be the
best to go.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's you closest. So that's actually one that people have
made it to when they want it. If you don't
ever want to be arrested in the Cuban government's not
gonna arrest If you make it to Cuba, you're not gonna
get you're not gonna get deported or you're not going
to get to extradited. But you're gonna be in Cuba
and hope that they're treating you well. Good luck with that.
North Korea, Russia, China and Gola. I don't think Lebanon
(24:45):
has an extradition treaty with the United States.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You know that's right, because what's the guy's name who
fled and was formerly like the huge auto executive that
got smuggled out of Japan. He got into into be Root, right,
and he's been able to stay there. Yeah, so Lebanon's
on the list.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I mean the countries overwhelmingly that are on that list
are countries you'd be like, I don't want to live there.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
What is the funniest country on the list that we
could get Michael Cohen to go to and do a
reality television show about it? All right, I'm looking up
right now, I mean there are like if you're looking,
I mean, I don't know how long he'd last in Somalia,
Like that would be kind of a survival show for him,
that Michael Cohen as a Somali pilot Pirate would be
a show I would watch. I'm the Captain now, I
(25:30):
would be all in on that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Vietnam. Vietnam is actually really actually really enjoyed my time
in Vietnam when I visited. So that's a good that's
a good place to go. The Central African Republic. I
think they've been through decades of like the worst war, famine, disease,
and Huang Guy Bon.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Guy Cohen and Bon Guy would be a heck of
a look. I don't imagine there's a lot of white
Americans that are choosing to live in in in Bon guys.
Here are some of the ones. Some of the Iran
would be amazing, Michael Cohen, and Iran would be like
showing up with the Ayatola chillin.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I can you imagine the zooms I have converted to Islam.
It is a beautiful religion. I am now an Iranian citizen.
Michael Cohen. Uh yeah, good luck with that one too.
That'd be a lot of fun to Americans. Doesn't seem
like that would be a really smart move. But maybe
maybe he would be a great fit thing. Afghanistan. Afghanistan
with a Taliban in charge. Mind you like, there's no
(26:23):
more you know, it's not like the Northern Alliance is
gonna keep you safe in the North anymore. Yikes. Not good,
not a fun, not a fun place to be. So
there's a I mean, the list is pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And by the way, I'm I'm all in. I encourage
Michael Cohen to commit a felony, get an illegal passport,
change with with a fake name, and then I want
him to go to Iran. I want him to go
to uh Cambodia. I want him to go to one
of these countries that I have no idea about. And
I would watch a reality television show about Michael Cohen
starting his life back over there. Sure he has a
(26:56):
lot of marketable skills. Smally pirate Michael Cohen. I mean,
I I would try that out. I mean, you know
this guy was. It's amazing too.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
He was Trump's lawyer for so many years, and now
he's talking about fleeing the country and having to get
a passport, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Buck he's bragging about that has to again, it has
to be a felony to get a foreign passport under
a different name, Like that can't be legal. I mean,
if you if I told you, like you your brother,
you've got a single brother. If your brother was like, hey,
I got a new girlfriend and you're like, what does
she do? Well, I'm not really sure, but she has
(27:34):
a foreign passport in a different name, you'd be like,
you know, maybe you could pride somebody else to date
it's not a great choice.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Problem for sure. Yeah. I look, Michael Cohen is not
leaving the country. It's absurd.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
You know, I think I mentioned that Ava Longoria, you know,
and and I think we mentioned on the show that
she actually is. She's already been out so she lives
in like Madrid, and you know, she lives in fancy
places around the world already, So it's not like she's
giving up her life in America. She already spends most
of the year abroad, So that wasn't some big change.
But she's saying, oh, yeah, I'm going to live abroad. Also,
(28:09):
Like it's just so silly, isn't it, you know what
I mean? Like, what are I really even talking about?
What do they think is going to happen to them?
There's bigger there's bigger fish to fry. I do give
them credit.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
At least if you say, if somebody wins an election
in either direction that you are leaving the country, you
should have to leave the country, because ninety nine percent
of the people who say if Trump wins, I'm leaving
the country never leave. At least, if you're gonna make
that statement, follow up with it when the election actually
(28:39):
happens and doesn't go the direction that you want it
to go.
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Speaker 2 (29:56):
And welcome back in and play Travis Buck Sexton Show
Buck God. What did to make sure? I mentioned this
because I think we discussed it on the program back
when it happened. Spirit Airlines has filed for bankruptcy. Why
does that matter? Okay, some of you might fly Spirit Airlines.
It's the holidays. They say that they're going to have
their full flight of normal airplanes and everything else going on.
(30:20):
They're not canceling. But I do think this is significant
and I haven't heard very many people talking about it.
They tried to merge with Jet Blue and Team correct
me if I'm wrong. I believe it was Jet Blue
that they were merging with, and if you were a
Spirit Airlines shareholder, you stood to make a lot of
(30:40):
money over that merger. A federal judge looked at that
merger said this will hurt consumers, it will create antitrust
related issues, and he refused to allow the merger to happen.
And now Spirit Airlines has gone bankrupt and every shareholder
(31:01):
has been completely wiped out. In other words, that judge
was one billion percent wrong and that company doesn't exist
now because he said the merger can't happen. Now, Buck,
how does that federal judge get to keep his job.
We let one dude who nobody elected, sit and look
(31:23):
at all the evidence, and that federal judge got everything
completely wrong, wiped out billions of dollars in shareholder equity,
and now there is absolutely nothing that happens to him
at all. I don't know how you could be more
wrong than to say, hey, consumers are not going to
benefit if this merger happens. Well, now the entire company
(31:47):
is bankrupt. Why are there no consequences when people get
things objectively wrong? Shouldn't something happen to this guy like
the judge when you when you get you.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Couldn't right, judge. I don't know if this would be
the big I mean, unfortunately, being a moron usually isn't
considered being an impeachable offense. Otherwise, be a lot of
people getting impeached.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
But I mean for multi billion dollars of shareholder equity
to just be wiped out and this guy to be
completely wrong.
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We saw the aversion of this not quite as not
disastrous and with a happy ending. But remember when they
Elon's pay package for Tesla Y. This was based on
metrics that he hit that The shareholders were like, he's
never going to hit those he did. Some judge in
Delaware was like, he shouldn't get that money. Yeah, no,
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Use Code Radio. Clay Travis here, Happy Thanksgiving from all
of us at the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us on this fabulous Wednesday across the nation
as many people get ready, by the way, to celebrate
(33:56):
Thanksgiving coming up next week. We're about eight days away,
I think exactly from Thanksgiving. I know many of you
are going to be starting your travels, and certainly we'd
encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast so you
can take us with you wherever you might be going.
I know my family is going to start traveling on Friday,
parts of it to meet up all over the country.
And I imagine a lot of you are as well.
(34:17):
So it's a good time to go subscribe to the
podcast to get the entire podcast network, and you can
take us with you wherever you may be around the
country or indeed around the world. I wanted to make
sure we hit this because it's an awful story, but
I do think it's important because for many people, the
failures of the Biden administration at the border have unfortunately
(34:38):
led to violence all over the country. Illegal immigrants have
committed acts of violence against innocent American citizens and nowhere
to my knowledge, has gotten more attention than the murder
of Lake and Riley in the Athens area of Georgia,
where I was over the weekend. It remains a huge
(35:00):
and the criminal trial of her killer, and it is
now you can say directly her killer has ended and
he has been convicted of murder and will spend the
rest of his life in prison. Now we will talk
about that in a moment, but in the meantime, I
wanted all of you to be able to hear because
(35:21):
we have talked a lot. Again Buck they try to say, oh, well,
immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than American citizens do,
and First of all, I don't know that I buy
that when you actually break it down, because many illegal
immigrants are young men, and young men overwhelmingly commit most
violent acts. So it stands to reason that if the
majority of illegal immigrants are young men, actually young men,
(35:44):
whether they're illegal or legal, commit the vast majority of
violent crimes. So I'm not sure i'd buy the statistic
as it is reported. But here's the deal. It should
be zero because we should not have illegal immigration in
this country, So any crime that occurs that is result
of an illegal immigrant illegally entering this country should never
be allowed to occur. And before we play the result,
(36:06):
I want to read this because this was well said,
I thought distilling exactly what happened. Bill Malujin shared this
about exactly what happened with the Lake and Riley case
and why it was such a failure on so many
different levels that this was ever allowed to happen at all.
Here's how many ways that the government failed. Her killer
(36:29):
was in federal custody after crossing the border illegally. Released,
he was released again in the sanctuary city of New
York City after an arrest ice was not notified about
that arrest. New York City then gave him a taxpayer
funded flight to Georgia. According to the testimony of one
(36:50):
of his roommates. Again, all of that, multiple failures that
led to the murder of a completely innocent woman out
for a jog in Athens, Georgia. And this is what
it just sounded like when the verdict was read.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
Count one malice murder. I send you to life without
the possibility to parole. Count two will be vacated as
a matter of operation of law. Count three vacated by
operation of law. Count four vaca co operation of law.
(37:24):
Count five life in prison, consecutive to Count one. Count
six twenty years to serve consecutive to Count five. Count
seven will merge with Count one, Count eight.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I think we can stop the reading, but I wanted
you to hear what was going on in that courtroom. Buck.
Here's the deal. Not only as Lake and Riley, she
should still be alive and I can't even imagine what
her family is going through. But she is emblematic of
something that is happening in your state, in your city
because of theres of border security. But in addition to
(38:03):
all those failures, now American taxpayers have to pay for
this guy to spend the rest of his life in
a Georgia prison sale. So this is in no way
actual justice, in in in in any kind of use
of the word justice in my mind, because we continued
to have to pay the price of his illegal actions
(38:26):
to keep him alive in our prisons.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I have to wonder why he can't be executed expeditiously
as a matter of as a matter of law here,
I guess they've just decided in this case. Look, I
understand the death penalty is a controversial thing for some
people or for a lot of people. But if there's
ever a case that seems to be a clear indicator
(38:52):
of when the death penalty should be applied, you would
think this would this would meet that standard I'm talking
about just morally. It put aside the counts and specifics
of the statutes. Here, we're failing people like Lake and
Riley and her family, meaning the United States, the United
States government, the judicial system, immigration system. This is not
(39:14):
somebody snuck across the border. We couldn't know and then
they did a horrible thing. This is authorities had this
guy in custody multiple times and decided to let him
out of custody, and he has now gone on to
commit a heinous rape and murder. This is exactly why
the American people who are at least paying attention and
(39:36):
living in reality are so outraged about the wide open
Biden border. Give credit to all of those who have
been pointing out, including Dan Crenshaw of Congresson from Texas
spreading about how why do we all know what trend
Aragua is now? Congresson Crenshaw's correct, we all know what
trend to Aragua is now, which is a ultra violent
(40:00):
Latin American gang, because the terrible stuff that they're doing
has gotten a lot of news coverage. And it's a
bunch of illegals who have come into the country and
are raping and murdering and you know, stealing and doing
all the things that they shouldn't be doing. They should
never be allowed to be doing in the first place,
because they shouldn't even be here in the country. But Clay,
(40:21):
you know, there's this pattern, and you see this the
people that say, especially the Democrats, who don't want us
to be able to arm ourselves or defend ourselves, which well,
I mean, I can never live again living in a
free state that allows me to defend myself like Florida does.
I could never go back to a state I just
couldn't where they say, sorry, you're disarmed, Sorry you are
at the whim of the state. Can't do it, wouldn't
(40:42):
do it, won't allow You know, I have to defend
my wife, I have to defend my family, and so
I have a total mind change or you know, sort
of a mentality change about even being able to live
in a blue state. Going forward, look.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
What happened in New York.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You had three people stabbed by some maniac running around
with a knife, two of them killed the middle of
the day from what I if I remember correctly, running
across Midtown Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
The guy had been arrested eight times.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
He's a violent, crazy, lunatic who's been arrested by police
eight times and is still on the street and has
now murdered two people. Those two families now have to
bear that horrible pain of losing a family member to
a completely random, hatous crime. Lake and Riley's family members
have to bear that horrible pain that birded of their
(41:31):
little girl murdered by this monster. And it never should
have happened because the authorities had the ability to stop
it and chose not to because the Democrat Party and
the corporate Democrat media and the left in this country
and the open borders maniacs have decided that being an
(41:53):
illegal is some kind of special status in this country.
You can not only break our laws by coming here,
you can can continue to break our laws. And we
don't want to seem racist, we don't want to seem xenophobics.
So you get to stay until you finally do something
so bad even MSNBC has to say, I guess we.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Should lock that guy up. This is going to be tough,
but I want you guys to hear it. This was
the stepfather of Lake and Riley, twenty two years old.
After she was murdered, raped by an illegal immigrant. They
found her diary, her journal that she kept, and he
(42:31):
read in the courtroom one of the final diary entries
that she would ever do of her entire life. He
read that in the courtroom. We have that for you
right now. If you have a daughter, you have a granddaughter,
you have someone that you care about that could have
been Lake and Riley. Listen to what she wanted to
(42:52):
do with the rest of her life.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
To my future husband. I want you to know that
I'm thinking about you, and I'm working every day to
become the best wife I can be, working through my
current relationships to best prepared me for hours and our kids.
One day, I'm focusing on God and what he defines
(43:18):
a faithful Christian life and so that I can best
embody those characteristics. I pray that you know that is
with my full faith and trust in God, that I
know this relationship has been handcrafted by Him. I pray
that we continue to glorify the Lord, prioritize Him in
every aspect of our lives, and raise our family our
(43:41):
future family, to be God fearing Christians as well. I
pray God is the center of our relationship. It is
as it is a gift from Him. I thank Him
for you before I even know you, and can't wait
to love you in the best way I know how
for the rest of our lives. I pray you know
(44:03):
and feel the importance of my love and hopes for
our relationship. No matter what challenges we face. I pray
that our trust in God and love from one another
overrules the obstacle. May our relationship last forever. Your future wife.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Lacoln Okay, I mean that is hard to listen to.
That is John Phillips, the stepdad of Lake and Riley,
reading one of her final injuries. For anybody who just
heard that, how in the world are there no consequences
for the people that allowed this to happen. I'm sorry,
(44:43):
I mean it is indefensible to me, Buck that we
have allowed this to occur. And Lake and Riley is
not alone. There are thousands of innocent people. You just
heard what she wanted to do with the rest of
her life, that this country failed and their families are
going to be suffering for the rest of their lives
(45:04):
because of the Biden Kamala administration and what they allowed
to happen.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
The open borders zealots, and that is now the entirety
of the Democrat Party and the Democrat apparatus. They've changed nothing, Clay.
They still want illegals who are supposed to be deported
because of additional crimes to not be deported. Look at
how they're fighting against the incoming Trump administrations plans on
(45:29):
this already. Los Angeles is declaring itself, you know, an
even more sanctuary city than it was before, which I
don't even know how that's possible. They don't think. Here's
the fundamental thing everyone has to understand. This happens Lake
and Riley. A terrible case like this happens, and the
media covers it, and then the Democrats go back to
pushing for exactly the same policies that led to her death,
(45:52):
rape and murder. They do not change, They do not care.
They think that we need third world illegals piling into
this place by the millions, because that's what America deserves,
because that's the America they want to live in. And
if people have to be raped and murdered and killed
by some of them who we know are criminals, who
we know shouldn't be here at all, that is the
cost that Democrats are willing to pay in order to
(46:15):
make America a more multicultural, multi ethnic state. That is
the fundamental truth of their policy on immigration. This is
the cost that they choose to bear. Everything's remember that,
by the way, the third victim was actually killed in
that New York City stabbing was a mother of a
nine year old. A mom of a nine year old
just died in the hospital of her wounds. So three
(46:35):
people stabbed to death by somebody that the NYPD had
in their custody eight times. Nobody thought we should do
anything about this guy. Nobody thought he should be committed.
You're gonna tell me it wasn't obvious that he was
a maniac who was a threat to people on the street.
You get arrested eight times, you don't serve any real
time in prison. Hey, this is the state is failing people.
(46:56):
And this is why when a lot of people see
the Daniel Penn case in New York and they say,
and now we punish men who step up when the
state fails to defend people, to defend women, to defend
children from maniacs that the state chooses not to defend
us from. We're going to punish that guy. That's Alvin
(47:17):
Bragg's New York City. Your tax dollars got this guy
to New York City. Your tax dollars put this rapist
and a murderer on a plane to Georgia, and now
your tax dollars are going to keep him alive for
the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I'm sorry. The fact that there are no consequences for
everyone who opened the southern border May yorkas should be
imprisoned for the rest of his life honestly, and I
know he's acting on the behest of Biden and Kamala,
But if you're Lake and Riley's family, and again there
are Lake and Riley's in every state and every city
(47:54):
of any substantial size in America today, how in the
world can there not be constantins for that?
Speaker 1 (48:00):
And what's the worst crime Clay Biden's DHS intentionally allowing
people to defraud the United States government and come into
the country by the millions, knowing that's exactly what's going on,
and knowing that people are going to be raped and
murdered by some of those illegals. Or listing a expense
as a lawyer expense when it's a hush money expense.
I mean, yeah, one of these things was prosecuted and
(48:21):
the other wasn't good news.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
And I know that's awful, awful story, But I wanted
you guys, because we have talked about the Lake and
Riley case. I wanted you guys to know the conviction
had happened. But I also wanted you to be able
to hear effectively her voice one more time through her
stepfather's reading in that courtroom. Look, Christmas thirty five days
away and if you're out there right now, and you
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