November 26, 2024 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Appreciate all of you. Thanksgiving Eve Eve.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I know many of you are hitting the roads all
over the country. Airports are going to be jammed. I'm
hopping a flight to Florida tonight with my two oldest boys.
Much of my family already down there. Cannot wait to
hang out with them. Reminder, we will have a live
show tomorrow with guest host Brent Winterboll, who's been a
part of the Rush family for a very long time,
(00:33):
and then there will be best of Thursday and Friday.
Joel Klatt joins us now Fox lead college football analysts.
Do you think there's actually a best of version of
this show? Or based on my past history, do you
question whether there's any good radio I've ever done?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Joel, Well, as long as there's like significant amount of Buck,
I'm sure you sprinkled in something along the line, like
some sort of quip or joke, but Buck would likely
be the large, the large contingent of the best of.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yes, I appreciate you being such a fan you are.
I don't know if you're still at California where.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We get started on college football? Can I just give
your audience, which is, by the way, significant, So congratulations
to you because you've.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
The largest anywhere in radio. Humbly, Yes, but yes, what
would you like to tell the audience?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You can't say, oh, largest ever and then humbly, But
that's I know your personality, so I get it. So
do you want to talk about, like eleven years ago,
the conversation that you and I had in the audience
battle room at Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yes, you tell the people because I've talked about my
political evolution, but you and I for people who don't know,
Joel is and I hate to give him a compliment,
but the best person at calling college football games, I
think in the country. Right now, he will be calling
for all of you that are not huge college football fans.
Because Joel Buck had never been to a college football
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game in his entire life.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He grew up in New York City and soil.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I took him to Ole Miss, Alabama, and can you
imagine his cultural experience. Like you played quarterback in college football,
you're well versed in how awesome college football is. Buck
had never been to a game, had no idea college
football even existed as a big social event.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'm sure his mind was blown, totally, completely blown, because
it's the furthest thing from professional sports. Professional sports. Hey,
they're great, but they're very corporate, very coperate, And you
go to a college football game and it is the
most tribal, like, unique and organic type of sporting event
that you could find, certainly in this country. And I
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think that from what I understand, it rivals kind of
like Premier League soccer style tribalism. So yes, yeah, I
bet that that was incredible.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh, he was blown away.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
He was like, I had no idea that this entire
subculture existed, or Joel that everybody at the Alabama Old
Miss game loved him and agreed with almost everything he said.
You know, so he's in New York City, like voting
for Donald Trump and people are just like, I hate you,
you know, like, go to hell, what are you doing
in that reg red Maga hat? And then he's down
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in Tuscaloosa and people are like, hey, do you want
to drink?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Pretty girls?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
He was single at the time, walking around in sun dresses,
like everywhere, everybody's happy, joyful, and he's like this is
kind of a mate. Weather's perfect. He's like, this is unbelievable,
but that's background for Buck. I thought you should know.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So this is where Clay and I met as we
were doing a college football show on Fox Sports about
eleven years ago, when when Fox Sports Won first started
and Clay would fly out and we'd do a Saturday
morning show. So we got to sit and watch college
football and what we call the avocado room or like
a normal green room. And so I'm getting to know
Clay and he's getting to know me, and you know
(03:53):
you and I immediately, you know, click on college football,
and you're a contrarian. So we would argue about college
foot and then all of a sudden one day, you know,
we start getting into like social aspects and cultural aspects
and then politics, and you were just died in the wool.
You were like, oh, yeah, I'm a Democrat. And then
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you were explaining all your positions and I was like, hey, Clay,
like no, you're not You're a Republican. And you were like,
I am not a Republican. There's no way. I worked
for al Gore and you shouted at me like three
times I worked for al Gore and I remember telling
you at the time. I was like, Clay, you're a conservative,
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you just don't even know it yet. And then here
we are. And so now every time I see you,
I just have a little bit of a smirk that
I feel like I was a small part in your
red pill.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I mean, in all honesty.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
In twenty thirteen, when you and I started doing college
football together at Fox, the country hadn't gone totally and
completely insane. And I know you've got three boys her
self too, but like it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I was.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I started off the show talking about, for instance, the
evolution of there's a lot of people out there that
are listening to us right now, Joel that are black, White,
Asian and Hispanic that voted for Barack Obama that were thinking,
like me, hey, I'm a Democrat. And then one day
you look around and people are like, hey, you know,
if you're a dude who wants to say that you're
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a girl, you should be able to win a women's championship.
And you're like, what, and you have to believe that
in order to vote Democrat? Like it's kind of crazy.
What the test? The proxy became, right? It went from
you know, hey, what do you think the tax rate
should be to Hey, if you say you're a different
sex than you actually are, I have to acknowledge, believe it,
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and actually award you a women's sports championship to be
a Democrat in good standing. And some people are just like, yeah,
that's that's a bridgeway too far.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well clearly, and yeah that's wild. So that's how Clay
and I became friends. And it started. It started with
college football, and you know, and has has evolved now
outside of college football. I'm incredibly proud of you, buddy.
I know that I choke on that a little bit,
but you know, I am. You're doing a great job.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
By the way, Buck makes fun of me, but you
mentioned that we became friends initially because we're both big
college football fans. I naturally trust college football fans, regardless
of what team they root for, even Alabama fans, more
than I do people who are not college football fans.
I bet with what you do. You also have that
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same feeling because there is some sort of innate foundational
connection there, even if you root for different teams. I
think that is more substantial than just college football fandom.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Do you feel that same way.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Okay, So I'll probably give myself in trouble for saying
it this way, but whatever, it's your show. So I
think that college football is one of the most American
things in our sporting world. It is totally and almost
completely void of the political influence that we've seen in
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professional sports, and I think, having been around it my
whole life, there's a purity to college football that maybe
doesn't exist in other arenas of sport. And so because
of that, when I see or hear from, or talk
with or converse with people in our sport, around our
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sport that love our sport, I know that there is
a genuine love of that and not some sort of
ulterior motive, if that makes sense. And I think that's
what I've kind of boiled it down to. I know
you say from a trust factor, but there's a love
of our sport that is just deeper than anything else,
(08:02):
and there's no other avenue that I feel like people
are trying to get there. And also, if you tell me, like, wow,
I'm not a fan of college football, well then I
assume that you're just like an academic, and I don't
trust academics at all.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
We're talking to Joel Klatt.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Let me also dive into this with you, because I
don't think we talked about it much publicly, but you
and I fought super hard and you did it publicly,
which was actually rare for people in sports media to
have seasons played in sports during COVID.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, why do you think that was so important?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And looking back on it now four years later, Hey,
by the way, you and I and everybody who fought
and said we can do this safely were one hundred
percent right, And it's amazing all those people who said
we couldn't do it, they just pretend that argument never happened.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Right. Yeah, it wasn't about football. It was about freedom,
and it was about the idea that something could be
told to us that didn't have to be proven, and
in many ways the way it was communicated to us
was false and under false pretense, and yet we had
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to sit there and just take it. Because that's why
I pushed. It wasn't specifically for football or anything else
I was. I was pushing for I know it sounds
so stupid, but for freedom, Clay and for me. You know, this,
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this idea that we were just going to with limited
knowledge give up was something I was not willing to do.
My dad thought in Vietnam. I knew the importance of
college football. I knew the importance of maintaining social perspective
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in terms of trying to achieve a goal. I knew
how important college football was to the individuals playing it.
I knew how important college football was to the fans
that wanted to see it to the other sports. So,
you see, here's the thing that people don't understand. It's
not just a college football game. That college football game
is supporting every single athlete at that university and within
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that conference. So every opportunity given in an athletic endeavor
in college athletics is provided by college football. And if
we just decided that we were going to forego that,
we were impacting thousands of people that aren't even involved
in the sport. And for all of those reasons, I
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was completely unwilling to be silent, and.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'm glad you weren't.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And we won, and the season was played, and it
ended up a tremendous success. You are going to be
in Columbus, Ohio this weekend calling Michigan Ohio State. It's
going to be one of the most watched regular season
games of the year. For people who have never or
watched the big Game, why should they check it out?
And for people that are fired up to watch it,
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what do you expect to see?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So this is the greatest rivalry that we have in
American sports, all due respect to everything else. Professional sports
doesn't touch this. And even in college football, even though
you think Tennessee, Florida is some sort of great rivalry,
it's not compared to Ohio State Michigan. This thing is like,
like it goes so deep and the traditions at both
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of these schools, and what makes this iteration so interesting
to me is that Ohio State, which had owned the
rivalry for the better part of about twenty years, they've
gotten beat three straight years by Michigan. Michigan won the
national championship. And so there is this like deep hatred
between these schools and this idea that Ohio State, even
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as successful as they are, they're the number two team
ranked in the country, they're ten to one, and even
though Michigan's not had a great season, there's this idea
that NUS nothing will make the season of success unless
they're able to beat Michigan. They have to do it,
and from that standpoint, it's just incredibly, incredibly interesting. I
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expect Ohio State will play really well. They're one of
the best teams in the country. And Michigan would like
nothing more than to ruin the Buckeye season because of
the hatred that goes way back into the nineteen sixties
between Woody Hayes and Bo Shimbeckler. So these are things
that are so fascinating to me. And then you've got
all the aspects of the college Football Playoff. Those of
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you listeners that are not super college football fans, here's
the deal. The College FOOTBA Playoff has expanded, has gone
to twelve teams, and there's been more interest now in
our sport than ever before. So, for instance, a team
like Tennessee Clays team is like firmly in the playoff,
and everything broke for them last week. A team like Indiana,
which has the most losses in college football history, they
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get a new head coach this year, he brings in transfers,
and now they're ten and one and firmly in my eyes,
inside of the college football line. So our sport's never
been better. A team like Indiana can get back into
the mix of things. Tennessee is in the mix of things,
and from that standpoint, you know this week is going
to be very fun.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Tonight is last question for you, and i'd encourage you
guys to go follow Joel Clatt at Joel Clatt on Twitter.
You can tell him thanks for coming on the program
here and maybe you give him tips for Big ten
towns because he goes everywhere now to call games, in
particular in the Big Ten. What do you think is
controversial in terms of the playoff committee tonight? Do you
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think SMU is in? Do you think Miami does the
ACC get two? You said you think Indiana Tennessee are
comfortably in.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Where's that bubble?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Who are the teams inside and outside that you think
people need to pay attention to?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, so there's been a lot of talk about Indiana
because they haven't played necessarily a great schedule, But now
after playing Ohio State last week, they lost that game,
but now their strength of schedule is is significantly better
than what it was prior. So if you compare them
to like let's say in Miami or an SMU or
even a team like let's say Notre Dame, their strength
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of schedule stacks up more favorably, and their loss is
much better than those other teams loss so Indiana. I
think on the outside, the narrative is that they would
be on the bubble. I don't think that they will be,
or nor should be. They're going to be firmly in.
The teams that I'm looking at from a bubble perspective
are teams like SMU Clemson, who's all of a sudden
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after some early struggles, back in the mix of things.
And then the biggest question I'm going to have is
where do they put these three loss SEC teams, teams
like Alabama and Ole Miss. How far do they drop
them down after they took bad losses last weekend, Because
that'll tell us everything we need to know about the
number of teams the SEC gets in. And I can
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tell you this because Clay, You're one of them. Those
Sea fans have been thinking themselves the whole time they're
going to get four or five teams in, and right
now it looks like maybe their max is three.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Joel, have fun, Tell your family Happy Thanksgiving. We appreciate
the time, and we'll talk to you again.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, always great to chat with you. Proud of you man,
you're doing great.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Same to be said for you again. I encourage you, guys.
Go followed at Joel Klatt. Let him know you appreciate
him coming on. Sometimes you guys ask, and I've said
this before on the program, but what's something you can
do to grow the show? If you're on social media
and you enjoy a guest. We don't pay anybody. Nobody's
getting paid to come on this program at any point.
They're doing it because they want to come talk with you. Guys,
(15:36):
reach out social media. Agreed, disagree with whatever they say,
but let them know that you appreciate being able to
hear them on the program, regardless of who.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
They may be. I got to tell you Thanksgivings coming up.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
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from our home to yours. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving from
the Clay and Buck Show.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Buck, We'll be back with me on Monday. Already with
his family having a fantastic time. I'm going to be
speaking at the New York Republican Club up in New
York City tonight. He's there with his family, So if
many of you are interested in that listening to us
on wor that is on the horizon as well. My
thanks to Joel Klatt, awesome guy, and many of you
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are already reacting and talking to him on social media, and
I know a lot of you will be watching on
Saturday that Michigan Ohio State game. He's completely wrong, by
the way about it being the best rivalry in sports.
It's not even the best rivalry in college football, Alabama
Auburn is better, in my always humble opinion, than Michigan
Ohio State, Army Navy also, I think better. Do you
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ever have the opportunity to go to either of those games?
I've been to Michigan Ohio State. It's great.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
My wife is a Michigan alum. She's going to disagree
with me.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
She's wrong unless she's listening, in which case she's one
hundred percent right and right about everything. When we come back,
we'll take some more of your calls, a lot of
you weighing in on being first time Trump voters, and
a lot of great reactions there. We'll hit some of
the emails, and I want to play a clip for
you about the declining power of traditional media and why
I think it's significant all that coming your way. In
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is spending on so many different holiday gifts out there,
among other things, what's the great line? The reason you
got your credit card stolen. Reason you didn't report it
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great interaction. Appreciate all of you reaching out to share
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your stories. And look, I know a lot of you
have been longtime Trump voters. As we said, sixty two
million I think was the number in twenty sixteen, where
we're all the way up to north of seventy seven
million by the time we get to twenty twenty four.
So in eight years time Trump has added fifteen million voters,
and he added several million off of last year's number.
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Some people flipping some people voting for the first time,
and you guys are weighing in and sharing I think
some really interesting stories. Let's take some more of these calls.
Kate in New Hampshire, what made you vote?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
What made you vote for the first time for Trump?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Well, it was a technicality for me. I wasn't able
to vote for him until I became a thatchalized citizen
in May this year.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
So where did you come to the United States from?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Originally from Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
All right, So I was in Australia last year for
New Year's in Christmas. It was amazing. We had a
great time family trip. But Australia has gone super woke.
If you are voting for Trump here in the United States,
I'm guessing you don't agree with the direction that Australia
has gone. But what was it that appealed to you
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about Trump? Because New Hampshire ended up super super close.
Trump almost flipped it.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I am in a law enforcement household.
I am quite a conservative myself, from a conservative family
in Australia, and it was only I've been over here
for six years now, that's how long the legal process
took for me, and you.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Should have walked across the southern border. You would have
been here way faster, no trouble, oh my.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Lord, and I would have been up in a hotel
and everything.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It would have been, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But every time I had to go back home to
sort of do some family things, I saw Australia change
in the societal sort of values and the way they
interacted with each other, and even the way they viewed
the rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It just changed every year.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
And COVID I think.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Broke broke brains in Australia and they're just so down
the left track. Now there are people withholding but it's
I come.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Back here and I go, oh my gosh, I'm free.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Thank you for calling in, Kate, and thank you. Thank
you for becoming an American citizen and sharing your story.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I was out to dinner in La last week with
three Aussies and I gotta tell you it is a
cautionary tale of how pernicious and all encompassing the woke
mind virus can be. I don't know that I told
you guys this story. I can't remember because I was
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over there Christmas in New Year's with my family. I've
always wanted to go to Australia. We had an amazing time,
met so many fantastic people. It's a beautiful country. But
two particular stories, because Kate just reminded me of them.
Before the Sydney Harbor fireworks New year celebration, they apologize
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to all the indigenous people and I just remember sitting
there and my wife sitting there and us thinking, what
you're about to have a New Year's fireworks celebration in
this fabulous country which didn't exist at all as a
country until the late seventeen hundreds. I mean, it's basically
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a brand new land in terms of the habitation, and
everybody who was living in Australia now has a way
better life than they ever would have been if the
rest of the world had not come and discovered their country.
That is, civilized world in the late what is it
eighteenth century? Right, They're all way better off and you're
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apologizing before the fireworks display. And then we toured the
Sydney Bridge, the spectacular construction project. You can walk to
the very apex of it and look out over all
of Sydney Harbor. It's a beautiful place. We got up
to the top and the tour guide said, Hey, before
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we really talk about any of the things that you're
going to be able to see from up here, we
just want all of you to understand that this is
stolen land and we're sorry for doing it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Both of these things happened basically back to back days,
and I thought to myself, how in the world is
a country that has so much in common with the
United States and so much cross pollination between Australia and
the United States. How have they fallen to such an
extent that one of their great tourist attractions when they're
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showing the world the best face of Australia, whether it's
the fireworks display or the Sydney Bridge, that they're saying
as they're opening line, hey.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
We're sorry for stealing your land.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And what might that be as a pathway for America
if we don't get our stuff in order. It was
a very cautionary moment for me.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And also.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I'm not surprised that OutKick, which I sold to Fox,
but our audience in Australia and England has skyrocketed because
I do think there's lots of reasonable people there that
are not being talked to by their media, because it's
even woker than our media.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That's my big picture.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
English language analysis of what's going on in England, Australia
and it's connection to us and maybe why it should matter.
Robert in Louisiana, first time Trump voter and you've never
voted before and you're almost sixty years old, Yes, sir,
so first of all, I'm glad that you are voting.
You're the third different caller we've had today that is
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not a young man. No offense, but not a young man.
It's like you're eighteen and saying, hey, I voted for
Trump for the first time. What made you finally decide
that you had to vote after nearly sixty years no
votes at.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
All, last four years.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It was just so broken to you that you finally said,
I have to make my voice heard.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
The field almost doubles in two years. You've got to
do something about it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And had you had a strong opinion on Trump before
because you didn't go vote in sixteen or twenty what
was it just the failure of Biden that finally made
your voice heard or was there something else?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
It was pretty much Biden, Yeah, a Trump fan forever,
but they just broke the country.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's got to be fixed.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
My brother's hardcore Democrat, but never never Trumper. He voted
for Trump the selectional a selection. When you hear when
I heard he voted for Trump, I knew the res hope.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Thank you for the call, and thank you for voting
Robert and listening to how long you've been listening to
the program by the way.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Off and on for a while now, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I hope we were a small part of you deciding
to vote for the first time.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Again.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
This is three different guys who have called in if
I remember correctly, one in Arizona, one in Florida, one
in Louisiana, different parts of the country, all thirty or older,
who have never voted before.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I think that's super interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
And in San Antonio, appreciate you listening to us. What
made you decide to vote for Trump for the first time.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Well, I've been an independent all my life.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's I was raised.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I voted from Nixon on through to Clinton and everything else,
and I support I voted for libertarian the first time
Trump brand I voted for Biden much as I didn't
(27:23):
you know it was it seemed like the logical choice
the second time, and this time it's a matter of.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I am. I voted for.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Policies, not personas, and the persona I found off putting,
but the policies were undeniably strong.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
How long have you been listening to this program?
Speaker 7 (27:55):
And I'm sorry, do what?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
How long have you been listening to the program listening
to Bucking Me.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Since y'all took over? I mean, I go way back
with Rush?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Way Wait, you.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Listened to Rush, but you were not a Trump person
in sixteen or twenty But twenty twenty four you said,
I finally policy over persona.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Yeah, I mean I vote that I vote the best outcome.
I did not vote for a winner for president until
Bill Clinton. One not my other vote ever was president.
I have voted Democrat, I have voted Republican, and I
(28:43):
voted independent and libertarian a number of times.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, thank you for sharing your story and thank you
for listening. We appreciate you. Alex in Kentucky, first time
Trump voter? Have you voted before? What changed your mind?
What made you get to the ballot box for Trump
this time?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Never voted before?
Speaker 8 (29:05):
I was living in New Jersey in twenty sixteen and
twenty twenty and just felt like my vote wasn't going
to count anyway. And then COVID hit and it really
just pushed me. So I moved to Kentucky to get
away from the East coast.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And you were just so fired up about what they
did in terms of restricting freedom in states like New
Jersey that you said, I can't even live here anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Actually, I started listening to you guys during COVID because
I felt like I couldn't get a straight answer from
the governor there. Murphy was doing these weekly conferences and
just lying to us.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
My wife was one of the people that got.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Forced into getting vaccinated, and that just really pushed me.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, well, how do you like what part of Kentucky
are you in now, Louisville? How do you like living
in a red state? Even though, sorry Kentucky, you got
a moron for a governor who's still a Democrat. But
other than that, how do you like living in a
red state?
Speaker 8 (30:03):
It's much better? But yes, I hate Andy shar I
can't believe we voted him.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Back in Yeah me either.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Hey, thank you for the call. Have a great Thanksgiving
great calls, By the way, keep phone lines open at
eight hundred and two two two eight A two. We're
taking calls today as we get ready for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Just from I'm thankful for a lot of new.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
First time Trump voters, and I think a lot of
you out there who maybe big time Trump people voted
in sixteen and twenty four for Trump. Interested in hearing
what made people change their mind. I'm hearing from you
guys as well. Other thing here is I think what
you're hearing also in this audience is there's a lot
of people with open minds that would listen to Rush
and may have been Democrats, maybe didn't vote the same
(30:48):
way that Rush did. And I think that's certainly true
with this show with Buck and Eye here. Now we've
got a big tent, a lot of people with a
lot of different opinions on a variety of different issues.
We're happy to have all all of you, and I'm
thankful for what has so far been a really great
election season. We'll continue to break that down for you.
(31:08):
I got some great audio that I want to play
about the impact of media and maybe it's declining power
and how all of that is coming into play, which
I'm going to hit for you here in just a second,
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Speaker 3 (31:31):
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new show. It is called let Me make Sure I
get This right. Land Man about the oil industry, and
Billy Bob Thornton plays a Texas oil land sort of
organizer for lack of a better way, He kind of
handles all of the issues that might arise on an
(33:30):
oil field from.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
A variety of perspectives.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And he had a monologue that has gone viral that
I think many of you, particularly those of you in
Texas or other states that work in the oil industry,
will deeply appreciate, but also anyone out there that just
thinks this climate change cult has lost its mind and
that many of the things they are telling everyone we
(33:54):
should be doing are actually nonsensical and lead to more
four fossil fuels. Listen to this, Billy Bob Thornton on
Land Man, it's gone viral. I think y'all are gonna
love it.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Here it is.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
We have one hundred and twenty year petroleum based infrastructure.
Our whole lives depend on it. And hell, it's in
everything that road we came in on the wheels on
ever car, every may including yours, sentennis rackets and lipstick
and refrigerators and antihistamines, pretty much anything plastic, your cell
phone case, artificial heart of it before we find it's replacement.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
It's the thing that's gonna kill us all as a species.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
The thing's gonna kill us all is running out before
we find an alternative.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
All right, we might have accidentally had an f bomb
that just went out. Okay, we dumped it, so you
might have had a little bit of a little bit
of a change there.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Let me tell you, the.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Overall clip is really really good. We'll have it up
at clayanbuck dot com. But maybe for the holiday as
you gather your Thanksgiving family and friends around, maybe you
got somebody who's coming back from college that believes, Hey,
the world's gonna end. I can't have kids because I'm
(35:13):
so concerned about climate change and what's gonna happen. You're
gonna be fine, and maybe think about having kids. That
would be my advice to everybody. But that clip is fantastic.
Encourage you guys. Check it out. We'll post it up
at clayanbuck dot com.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Again.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
From the television show Landman, and that's Billy Bob Thornton,
great actor, by the way, in playing the lead role
in that. It's by the same guy who does Yellowstone.
Taylor share it and he's got a bunch of shows
out right now. But if you like Yellowstone, you may
like that one. I haven't watched a full episode yet,
but I did love that clip.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
We come back.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We'll keep taking your calls, but I want to have
a discussion with you about something that I think is
really significant. In particular, it is the collapse of the
traditional media. Donald Trump wins the popular vote despite everyone
on MSNBC, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, ABC, CBS,
NBC telling you.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
That he's Hitler.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
All of you out there decided that wasn't true, showed
up and voted for him in record numbers, and the
mainstream media is in a panic. What does the data
reflect and what in the world is going to happen
going forward. I've got a couple of ideas. I will
break all that down for you. Plus we're going to
(36:30):
be joined by Charlie Kirk. He's at turning point. He
had a tremendous role in ensuring that Trump won many
different battleground states, in particular with young male voters. We
will discuss that with him and more. Why did Arizona
of all states swing the most in Trump's direction in
the battleground He'll give you the feedback and the data
(36:50):
all that last hour next
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Appreciate all of you. Thanksgiving Eve Eve.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I know many of you are hitting the roads all
over the country. Airports are going to be jammed. I'm
hopping a flight to Florida tonight with my two oldest boys.
Much of my family already down there. Cannot wait to
hang out with them. Reminder, we will have a live
show tomorrow with guest host Brent Winterboll, who's been a
part of the Rush family for a very long time,
(00:33):
and then there will be best of Thursday and Friday.
Joel Klatt joins us now Fox lead college football analysts.
Do you think there's actually a best of version of
this show? Or based on my past history, do you
question whether there's any good radio I've ever done?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Joel, Well, as long as there's like significant amount of Buck,
I'm sure you sprinkled in something along the line, like
some sort of quip or joke, but Buck would likely
be the large, the large contingent of the best of.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yes, I appreciate you being such a fan you are.
I don't know if you're still at California where.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We get started on college football? Can I just give
your audience, which is, by the way, significant, So congratulations
to you because you've.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
The largest anywhere in radio. Humbly, Yes, but yes, what
would you like to tell the audience?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You can't say, oh, largest ever and then humbly, But
that's I know your personality, so I get it. So
do you want to talk about, like eleven years ago,
the conversation that you and I had in the audience
battle room at Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yes, you tell the people because I've talked about my
political evolution, but you and I for people who don't know,
Joel is and I hate to give him a compliment,
but the best person at calling college football games, I
think in the country. Right now, he will be calling
for all of you that are not huge college football fans.
Because Joel Buck had never been to a college football
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game in his entire life.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He grew up in New York City and soil.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I took him to Ole Miss, Alabama, and can you
imagine his cultural experience. Like you played quarterback in college football,
you're well versed in how awesome college football is. Buck
had never been to a game, had no idea college
football even existed as a big social event.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'm sure his mind was blown, totally, completely blown, because
it's the furthest thing from professional sports. Professional sports. Hey,
they're great, but they're very corporate, very coperate, And you
go to a college football game and it is the
most tribal, like, unique and organic type of sporting event
that you could find, certainly in this country. And I
(02:43):
think that from what I understand, it rivals kind of
like Premier League soccer style tribalism. So yes, yeah, I
bet that that was incredible.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh, he was blown away.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
He was like, I had no idea that this entire
subculture existed, or Joel that everybody at the Alabama Old
Miss game loved him and agreed with almost everything he said.
You know, so he's in New York City, like voting
for Donald Trump and people are just like, I hate you,
you know, like, go to hell, what are you doing
in that reg red Maga hat? And then he's down
(03:13):
in Tuscaloosa and people are like, hey, do you want
to drink?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Pretty girls?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
He was single at the time, walking around in sun dresses,
like everywhere, everybody's happy, joyful, and he's like this is
kind of a mate. Weather's perfect. He's like, this is unbelievable,
but that's background for Buck. I thought you should know.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So this is where Clay and I met as we
were doing a college football show on Fox Sports about
eleven years ago, when when Fox Sports Won first started
and Clay would fly out and we'd do a Saturday
morning show. So we got to sit and watch college
football and what we call the avocado room or like
a normal green room. And so I'm getting to know
Clay and he's getting to know me, and you know
(03:53):
you and I immediately, you know, click on college football,
and you're a contrarian. So we would argue about college
foot and then all of a sudden one day, you know,
we start getting into like social aspects and cultural aspects
and then politics, and you were just died in the wool.
You were like, oh, yeah, I'm a Democrat. And then
(04:14):
you were explaining all your positions and I was like, hey, Clay,
like no, you're not You're a Republican. And you were like,
I am not a Republican. There's no way. I worked
for al Gore and you shouted at me like three
times I worked for al Gore and I remember telling
you at the time. I was like, Clay, you're a conservative,
(04:35):
you just don't even know it yet. And then here
we are. And so now every time I see you,
I just have a little bit of a smirk that
I feel like I was a small part in your
red pill.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I mean, in all honesty.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
In twenty thirteen, when you and I started doing college
football together at Fox, the country hadn't gone totally and
completely insane. And I know you've got three boys her
self too, but like it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I was.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I started off the show talking about, for instance, the
evolution of there's a lot of people out there that
are listening to us right now, Joel that are black, White,
Asian and Hispanic that voted for Barack Obama that were thinking,
like me, hey, I'm a Democrat. And then one day
you look around and people are like, hey, you know,
if you're a dude who wants to say that you're
(05:24):
a girl, you should be able to win a women's championship.
And you're like, what, and you have to believe that
in order to vote Democrat? Like it's kind of crazy.
What the test? The proxy became, right? It went from
you know, hey, what do you think the tax rate
should be to Hey, if you say you're a different
sex than you actually are, I have to acknowledge, believe it,
(05:45):
and actually award you a women's sports championship to be
a Democrat in good standing. And some people are just like, yeah,
that's that's a bridgeway too far.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well clearly, and yeah that's wild. So that's how Clay
and I became friends. And it started. It started with
college football, and you know, and has has evolved now
outside of college football. I'm incredibly proud of you, buddy.
I know that I choke on that a little bit,
but you know, I am. You're doing a great job.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
By the way, Buck makes fun of me, but you
mentioned that we became friends initially because we're both big
college football fans. I naturally trust college football fans, regardless
of what team they root for, even Alabama fans, more
than I do people who are not college football fans.
I bet with what you do. You also have that
(06:39):
same feeling because there is some sort of innate foundational
connection there, even if you root for different teams. I
think that is more substantial than just college football fandom.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Do you feel that same way.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Okay, So I'll probably give myself in trouble for saying
it this way, but whatever, it's your show. So I
think that college football is one of the most American
things in our sporting world. It is totally and almost
completely void of the political influence that we've seen in
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professional sports, and I think, having been around it my
whole life, there's a purity to college football that maybe
doesn't exist in other arenas of sport. And so because
of that, when I see or hear from, or talk
with or converse with people in our sport, around our
(07:40):
sport that love our sport, I know that there is
a genuine love of that and not some sort of
ulterior motive, if that makes sense. And I think that's
what I've kind of boiled it down to. I know
you say from a trust factor, but there's a love
of our sport that is just deeper than anything else,
(08:02):
and there's no other avenue that I feel like people
are trying to get there. And also, if you tell me, like, wow,
I'm not a fan of college football, well then I
assume that you're just like an academic, and I don't
trust academics at all.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
We're talking to Joel Klatt.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Let me also dive into this with you, because I
don't think we talked about it much publicly, but you
and I fought super hard and you did it publicly,
which was actually rare for people in sports media to
have seasons played in sports during COVID.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, why do you think that was so important?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And looking back on it now four years later, Hey,
by the way, you and I and everybody who fought
and said we can do this safely were one hundred
percent right, And it's amazing all those people who said
we couldn't do it, they just pretend that argument never happened.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Right. Yeah, it wasn't about football. It was about freedom,
and it was about the idea that something could be
told to us that didn't have to be proven, and
in many ways the way it was communicated to us
was false and under false pretense, and yet we had
(09:13):
to sit there and just take it. Because that's why
I pushed. It wasn't specifically for football or anything else
I was. I was pushing for I know it sounds
so stupid, but for freedom, Clay and for me. You know, this,
(09:35):
this idea that we were just going to with limited
knowledge give up was something I was not willing to do.
My dad thought in Vietnam. I knew the importance of
college football. I knew the importance of maintaining social perspective
(09:57):
in terms of trying to achieve a goal. I knew
how important college football was to the individuals playing it.
I knew how important college football was to the fans
that wanted to see it to the other sports. So,
you see, here's the thing that people don't understand. It's
not just a college football game. That college football game
is supporting every single athlete at that university and within
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that conference. So every opportunity given in an athletic endeavor
in college athletics is provided by college football. And if
we just decided that we were going to forego that,
we were impacting thousands of people that aren't even involved
in the sport. And for all of those reasons, I
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was completely unwilling to be silent, and.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'm glad you weren't.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And we won, and the season was played, and it
ended up a tremendous success. You are going to be
in Columbus, Ohio this weekend calling Michigan Ohio State. It's
going to be one of the most watched regular season
games of the year. For people who have never or
watched the big Game, why should they check it out?
And for people that are fired up to watch it,
(11:06):
what do you expect to see?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So this is the greatest rivalry that we have in
American sports, all due respect to everything else. Professional sports
doesn't touch this. And even in college football, even though
you think Tennessee, Florida is some sort of great rivalry,
it's not compared to Ohio State Michigan. This thing is like,
like it goes so deep and the traditions at both
(11:29):
of these schools, and what makes this iteration so interesting
to me is that Ohio State, which had owned the
rivalry for the better part of about twenty years, they've
gotten beat three straight years by Michigan. Michigan won the
national championship. And so there is this like deep hatred
between these schools and this idea that Ohio State, even
(11:50):
as successful as they are, they're the number two team
ranked in the country, they're ten to one, and even
though Michigan's not had a great season, there's this idea
that NUS nothing will make the season of success unless
they're able to beat Michigan. They have to do it,
and from that standpoint, it's just incredibly, incredibly interesting. I
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expect Ohio State will play really well. They're one of
the best teams in the country. And Michigan would like
nothing more than to ruin the Buckeye season because of
the hatred that goes way back into the nineteen sixties
between Woody Hayes and Bo Shimbeckler. So these are things
that are so fascinating to me. And then you've got
all the aspects of the college Football Playoff. Those of
(12:32):
you listeners that are not super college football fans, here's
the deal. The College FOOTBA Playoff has expanded, has gone
to twelve teams, and there's been more interest now in
our sport than ever before. So, for instance, a team
like Tennessee Clays team is like firmly in the playoff,
and everything broke for them last week. A team like Indiana,
which has the most losses in college football history, they
(12:55):
get a new head coach this year, he brings in transfers,
and now they're ten and one and firmly in my eyes,
inside of the college football line. So our sport's never
been better. A team like Indiana can get back into
the mix of things. Tennessee is in the mix of things,
and from that standpoint, you know this week is going
to be very fun.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Tonight is last question for you, and i'd encourage you
guys to go follow Joel Clatt at Joel Clatt on Twitter.
You can tell him thanks for coming on the program
here and maybe you give him tips for Big ten
towns because he goes everywhere now to call games, in
particular in the Big Ten. What do you think is
controversial in terms of the playoff committee tonight? Do you
(13:34):
think SMU is in? Do you think Miami does the
ACC get two? You said you think Indiana Tennessee are
comfortably in.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Where's that bubble?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Who are the teams inside and outside that you think
people need to pay attention to?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, so there's been a lot of talk about Indiana
because they haven't played necessarily a great schedule, But now
after playing Ohio State last week, they lost that game,
but now their strength of schedule is is significantly better
than what it was prior. So if you compare them
to like let's say in Miami or an SMU or
even a team like let's say Notre Dame, their strength
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of schedule stacks up more favorably, and their loss is
much better than those other teams loss so Indiana. I
think on the outside, the narrative is that they would
be on the bubble. I don't think that they will be,
or nor should be. They're going to be firmly in.
The teams that I'm looking at from a bubble perspective
are teams like SMU Clemson, who's all of a sudden
(14:31):
after some early struggles, back in the mix of things.
And then the biggest question I'm going to have is
where do they put these three loss SEC teams, teams
like Alabama and Ole Miss. How far do they drop
them down after they took bad losses last weekend, Because
that'll tell us everything we need to know about the
number of teams the SEC gets in. And I can
(14:51):
tell you this because Clay, You're one of them. Those
Sea fans have been thinking themselves the whole time they're
going to get four or five teams in, and right
now it looks like maybe their max is three.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Joel, have fun, Tell your family Happy Thanksgiving. We appreciate
the time, and we'll talk to you again.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, always great to chat with you. Proud of you man,
you're doing great.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Same to be said for you again. I encourage you, guys.
Go followed at Joel Klatt. Let him know you appreciate
him coming on. Sometimes you guys ask, and I've said
this before on the program, but what's something you can
do to grow the show? If you're on social media
and you enjoy a guest. We don't pay anybody. Nobody's
getting paid to come on this program at any point.
They're doing it because they want to come talk with you. Guys,
(15:36):
reach out social media. Agreed, disagree with whatever they say,
but let them know that you appreciate being able to
hear them on the program, regardless of who.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
They may be. I got to tell you Thanksgivings coming up.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
How many of you out there have great Thanksgiving memories
with your friends and family.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
How many of you had.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
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Legacy Box dot Com slash Clay. Hey, it's Buck Sexton
from our home to yours. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving from
the Clay and Buck Show.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Buck, We'll be back with me on Monday. Already with
his family having a fantastic time. I'm going to be
speaking at the New York Republican Club up in New
York City tonight. He's there with his family, So if
many of you are interested in that listening to us
on wor that is on the horizon as well. My
thanks to Joel Klatt, awesome guy, and many of you
(17:13):
are already reacting and talking to him on social media, and
I know a lot of you will be watching on
Saturday that Michigan Ohio State game. He's completely wrong, by
the way about it being the best rivalry in sports.
It's not even the best rivalry in college football, Alabama
Auburn is better, in my always humble opinion, than Michigan
Ohio State, Army Navy also, I think better. Do you
(17:38):
ever have the opportunity to go to either of those games?
I've been to Michigan Ohio State. It's great.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
My wife is a Michigan alum. She's going to disagree
with me.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
She's wrong unless she's listening, in which case she's one
hundred percent right and right about everything. When we come back,
we'll take some more of your calls, a lot of
you weighing in on being first time Trump voters, and
a lot of great reactions there. We'll hit some of
the emails, and I want to play a clip for
you about the declining power of traditional media and why
I think it's significant all that coming your way. In
the meantime, how about saving some money. I know a
(18:06):
lot of you out there it's holiday season. How many
of you look into those credit card bills saying we
spent what on what? Yeah, that's the way that I
sometimes react when I look at what my lovely wife
is spending on so many different holiday gifts out there,
among other things, what's the great line? The reason you
got your credit card stolen. Reason you didn't report it
because whoever got it spending less than your wife.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
That's some truth there.
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Pound two five zero say playing Buck a lot of
great interaction. Appreciate all of you reaching out to share
(19:12):
your stories. And look, I know a lot of you
have been longtime Trump voters. As we said, sixty two
million I think was the number in twenty sixteen, where
we're all the way up to north of seventy seven
million by the time we get to twenty twenty four.
So in eight years time Trump has added fifteen million voters,
and he added several million off of last year's number.
(19:35):
Some people flipping some people voting for the first time,
and you guys are weighing in and sharing I think
some really interesting stories. Let's take some more of these calls.
Kate in New Hampshire, what made you vote?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
What made you vote for the first time for Trump?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Well, it was a technicality for me. I wasn't able
to vote for him until I became a thatchalized citizen
in May this year.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
So where did you come to the United States from?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Originally from Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
All right, So I was in Australia last year for
New Year's in Christmas. It was amazing. We had a
great time family trip. But Australia has gone super woke.
If you are voting for Trump here in the United States,
I'm guessing you don't agree with the direction that Australia
has gone. But what was it that appealed to you
(20:27):
about Trump? Because New Hampshire ended up super super close.
Trump almost flipped it.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I am in a law enforcement household.
I am quite a conservative myself, from a conservative family
in Australia, and it was only I've been over here
for six years now, that's how long the legal process
took for me, and you.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Should have walked across the southern border. You would have
been here way faster, no trouble, oh my.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Lord, and I would have been up in a hotel
and everything.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It would have been, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But every time I had to go back home to
sort of do some family things, I saw Australia change
in the societal sort of values and the way they
interacted with each other, and even the way they viewed
the rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It just changed every year.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
And COVID I think.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Broke broke brains in Australia and they're just so down
the left track. Now there are people withholding but it's
I come.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Back here and I go, oh my gosh, I'm free.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Thank you for calling in, Kate, and thank you. Thank
you for becoming an American citizen and sharing your story.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I was out to dinner in La last week with
three Aussies and I gotta tell you it is a
cautionary tale of how pernicious and all encompassing the woke
mind virus can be. I don't know that I told
you guys this story. I can't remember because I was
(22:03):
over there Christmas in New Year's with my family. I've
always wanted to go to Australia. We had an amazing time,
met so many fantastic people. It's a beautiful country. But
two particular stories, because Kate just reminded me of them.
Before the Sydney Harbor fireworks New year celebration, they apologize
(22:24):
to all the indigenous people and I just remember sitting
there and my wife sitting there and us thinking, what
you're about to have a New Year's fireworks celebration in
this fabulous country which didn't exist at all as a
country until the late seventeen hundreds. I mean, it's basically
(22:46):
a brand new land in terms of the habitation, and
everybody who was living in Australia now has a way
better life than they ever would have been if the
rest of the world had not come and discovered their country.
That is, civilized world in the late what is it
eighteenth century? Right, They're all way better off and you're
(23:08):
apologizing before the fireworks display. And then we toured the
Sydney Bridge, the spectacular construction project. You can walk to
the very apex of it and look out over all
of Sydney Harbor. It's a beautiful place. We got up
to the top and the tour guide said, Hey, before
(23:31):
we really talk about any of the things that you're
going to be able to see from up here, we
just want all of you to understand that this is
stolen land and we're sorry for doing it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Both of these things happened basically back to back days,
and I thought to myself, how in the world is
a country that has so much in common with the
United States and so much cross pollination between Australia and
the United States. How have they fallen to such an
extent that one of their great tourist attractions when they're
(24:06):
showing the world the best face of Australia, whether it's
the fireworks display or the Sydney Bridge, that they're saying
as they're opening line, hey.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
We're sorry for stealing your land.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And what might that be as a pathway for America
if we don't get our stuff in order. It was
a very cautionary moment for me.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And also.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I'm not surprised that OutKick, which I sold to Fox,
but our audience in Australia and England has skyrocketed because
I do think there's lots of reasonable people there that
are not being talked to by their media, because it's
even woker than our media.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That's my big picture.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
English language analysis of what's going on in England, Australia
and it's connection to us and maybe why it should matter.
Robert in Louisiana, first time Trump voter and you've never
voted before and you're almost sixty years old, Yes, sir,
so first of all, I'm glad that you are voting.
You're the third different caller we've had today that is
(25:13):
not a young man. No offense, but not a young man.
It's like you're eighteen and saying, hey, I voted for
Trump for the first time. What made you finally decide
that you had to vote after nearly sixty years no
votes at.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
All, last four years.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It was just so broken to you that you finally said,
I have to make my voice heard.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
The field almost doubles in two years. You've got to
do something about it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And had you had a strong opinion on Trump before
because you didn't go vote in sixteen or twenty what
was it just the failure of Biden that finally made
your voice heard or was there something else?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
It was pretty much Biden, Yeah, a Trump fan forever,
but they just broke the country.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's got to be fixed.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
My brother's hardcore Democrat, but never never Trumper. He voted
for Trump the selectional a selection. When you hear when
I heard he voted for Trump, I knew the res hope.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Thank you for the call, and thank you for voting
Robert and listening to how long you've been listening to
the program by the way.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Off and on for a while now, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I hope we were a small part of you deciding
to vote for the first time.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Again.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
This is three different guys who have called in if
I remember correctly, one in Arizona, one in Florida, one
in Louisiana, different parts of the country, all thirty or older,
who have never voted before.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I think that's super interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
And in San Antonio, appreciate you listening to us. What
made you decide to vote for Trump for the first time.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Well, I've been an independent all my life.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's I was raised.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I voted from Nixon on through to Clinton and everything else,
and I support I voted for libertarian the first time
Trump brand I voted for Biden much as I didn't
(27:23):
you know it was it seemed like the logical choice
the second time, and this time it's a matter of.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I am. I voted for.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Policies, not personas, and the persona I found off putting,
but the policies were undeniably strong.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
How long have you been listening to this program?
Speaker 7 (27:55):
And I'm sorry, do what?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
How long have you been listening to the program listening
to Bucking Me.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Since y'all took over? I mean, I go way back
with Rush?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Way Wait, you.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Listened to Rush, but you were not a Trump person
in sixteen or twenty But twenty twenty four you said,
I finally policy over persona.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Yeah, I mean I vote that I vote the best outcome.
I did not vote for a winner for president until
Bill Clinton. One not my other vote ever was president.
I have voted Democrat, I have voted Republican, and I
(28:43):
voted independent and libertarian a number of times.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, thank you for sharing your story and thank you
for listening. We appreciate you. Alex in Kentucky, first time
Trump voter? Have you voted before? What changed your mind?
What made you get to the ballot box for Trump
this time?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Never voted before?
Speaker 8 (29:05):
I was living in New Jersey in twenty sixteen and
twenty twenty and just felt like my vote wasn't going
to count anyway. And then COVID hit and it really
just pushed me. So I moved to Kentucky to get
away from the East coast.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And you were just so fired up about what they
did in terms of restricting freedom in states like New
Jersey that you said, I can't even live here anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Actually, I started listening to you guys during COVID because
I felt like I couldn't get a straight answer from
the governor there. Murphy was doing these weekly conferences and
just lying to us.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
My wife was one of the people that got.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Forced into getting vaccinated, and that just really pushed me.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, well, how do you like what part of Kentucky
are you in now, Louisville? How do you like living
in a red state? Even though, sorry Kentucky, you got
a moron for a governor who's still a Democrat. But
other than that, how do you like living in a
red state?
Speaker 8 (30:03):
It's much better? But yes, I hate Andy shar I
can't believe we voted him.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Back in Yeah me either.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Hey, thank you for the call. Have a great Thanksgiving
great calls, By the way, keep phone lines open at
eight hundred and two two two eight A two. We're
taking calls today as we get ready for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Just from I'm thankful for a lot of new.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
First time Trump voters, and I think a lot of
you out there who maybe big time Trump people voted
in sixteen and twenty four for Trump. Interested in hearing
what made people change their mind. I'm hearing from you
guys as well. Other thing here is I think what
you're hearing also in this audience is there's a lot
of people with open minds that would listen to Rush
and may have been Democrats, maybe didn't vote the same
(30:48):
way that Rush did. And I think that's certainly true
with this show with Buck and Eye here. Now we've
got a big tent, a lot of people with a
lot of different opinions on a variety of different issues.
We're happy to have all all of you, and I'm
thankful for what has so far been a really great
election season. We'll continue to break that down for you.
(31:08):
I got some great audio that I want to play
about the impact of media and maybe it's declining power
and how all of that is coming into play, which
I'm going to hit for you here in just a second,
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new show. It is called let Me make Sure I
get This right. Land Man about the oil industry, and
Billy Bob Thornton plays a Texas oil land sort of
organizer for lack of a better way, He kind of
handles all of the issues that might arise on an
(33:30):
oil field from.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
A variety of perspectives.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And he had a monologue that has gone viral that
I think many of you, particularly those of you in
Texas or other states that work in the oil industry,
will deeply appreciate, but also anyone out there that just
thinks this climate change cult has lost its mind and
that many of the things they are telling everyone we
(33:54):
should be doing are actually nonsensical and lead to more
four fossil fuels. Listen to this, Billy Bob Thornton on
Land Man, it's gone viral. I think y'all are gonna
love it.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Here it is.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
We have one hundred and twenty year petroleum based infrastructure.
Our whole lives depend on it. And hell, it's in
everything that road we came in on the wheels on
ever car, every may including yours, sentennis rackets and lipstick
and refrigerators and antihistamines, pretty much anything plastic, your cell
phone case, artificial heart of it before we find it's replacement.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
It's the thing that's gonna kill us all as a species.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
The thing's gonna kill us all is running out before
we find an alternative.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
All right, we might have accidentally had an f bomb
that just went out. Okay, we dumped it, so you
might have had a little bit of a little bit
of a change there.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Let me tell you, the.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Overall clip is really really good. We'll have it up
at clayanbuck dot com. But maybe for the holiday as
you gather your Thanksgiving family and friends around, maybe you
got somebody who's coming back from college that believes, Hey,
the world's gonna end. I can't have kids because I'm
(35:13):
so concerned about climate change and what's gonna happen. You're
gonna be fine, and maybe think about having kids. That
would be my advice to everybody. But that clip is fantastic.
Encourage you guys. Check it out. We'll post it up
at clayanbuck dot com.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Again.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
From the television show Landman, and that's Billy Bob Thornton,
great actor, by the way, in playing the lead role
in that. It's by the same guy who does Yellowstone.
Taylor share it and he's got a bunch of shows
out right now. But if you like Yellowstone, you may
like that one. I haven't watched a full episode yet,
but I did love that clip.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
We come back.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We'll keep taking your calls, but I want to have
a discussion with you about something that I think is
really significant. In particular, it is the collapse of the
traditional media. Donald Trump wins the popular vote despite everyone
on MSNBC, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, ABC, CBS,
NBC telling you.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
That he's Hitler.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
All of you out there decided that wasn't true, showed
up and voted for him in record numbers, and the
mainstream media is in a panic. What does the data
reflect and what in the world is going to happen
going forward. I've got a couple of ideas. I will
break all that down for you. Plus we're going to
(36:30):
be joined by Charlie Kirk. He's at turning point. He
had a tremendous role in ensuring that Trump won many
different battleground states, in particular with young male voters. We
will discuss that with him and more. Why did Arizona
of all states swing the most in Trump's direction in
the battleground He'll give you the feedback and the data
(36:50):
all that last hour next
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