Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Dec 3 2024

Dems are twisting themselves into pretzels after Hunter Biden pardon. Even CNN disagrees with the Hunter pardon. Kash Patel is scaring Democrats. There are no more All-Star Democrats.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well come.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
In Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show all hell
is broken loose after Joe Biden decided to pardon Hunter.
So many people out there on the left in media
have no idea how to react because they have been
abjectly humiliated on so many different fronts for so long. First,

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they were required or felt obligated to tell you all
that Biden was sharp as attack behind closed doors.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Remember the cheap fake wide of argument. Buck.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It feels like so long ago, but it was only
in June of twenty twenty four that they decided to
trot out all those videos you see of Joe Biden
looking mentally and physically unable to do the job.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Those aren't real, that's just cheap fakes.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Remember that phrase that they tried to trot out there,
Biden's actually sharpest attack. And then the June twenty seventh
presidential debate happened, and overnight they all pivoted and said, actually,
you know what, we've got to replace him. They put
all the pressure on the replacement. Then they came out
and they told you that Kamala Harris was the greatest

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presidential candidate ever. Even on election night, Joy Reid was
telling us that Kamala Harris had run a flawless campaign
and that it was brat summer and everybody was overwhelmed
by how good of a job Kamala Harris was doing.
That was the next argument they told us. Then they
told all of you that Trump was going to murder

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everybody in firing squads. And then Kamala got squashed and
they said, well, you know, we'll see what happens here.
And oh, by the way, they also argued that nobody
was above the law for the past two years. And
then Joe Biden on Thanksgiving weekend on Sunday, It now

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is clear Buck didn't even go through the usual pardon process.
There is a part in review board ish that you're
supposed to involve in the presidential and pardon process. Biden
just said, screw it, I'm gonna pardon a hunter. They
leaked it like five minutes beforehand. I was talking to
some people last night, Buck. They said, even the entire

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Biden administration didn't know until like five minutes beforehand.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
So he just threw everybody under the bus.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And now we've talked about this, Buck, and I do
think it's important for everybody out there to understand.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Being made to look like a moron personally.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Is where many people in media will draw the line
and finally show that they do have some backbone. Because
being intelligent and being respected for their intelligence, for their erudition,
it's a huge part of the self worth of the
talking head class. And so when you have abjectly humiliated

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them and they feel like you have thrown them under
the bus, they actually will suddenly show up and say
the things that you and I normally say every day
on the radio.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
And they lost, right, so it's all for nothing. They
will abide endless humiliation. Democrat journals, partisans, activists, all the
same thing. They'll say absolutely they they did. They said
that somebody with obvious dementia that they now agree is
obvious dementia did not have dementia because it served their

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political interest at the time.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
They will say absolutely anything in the service of power.
And so when they lose now and we knew this
is going to happen, right, there was the initial couple
of weeks of just wow, what an incredible victory for
Trump and a lot of Republicans, by the way, a
lot of close, a lot of great Senate races we
won a lot of House seats that could have gone
either way. I wish we had won a little bit

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more of a majority, but anyway, but you know some
very big wins. The biggest win of all of course,
Donald Trump, huge sweeping win. But we knew that then
Clay was going to transition into this. And I have
to say this part of the process, which is the
metaphorical circular firing squad of Democrats at this point, like
trying to figure out. We'll talk about it someone else

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talking about firing squads a little bit later since Yames.
But the Democrats doing this finger pointing exercise of who's
responsible for all of this? It's even more insane than
I had prepared myself for because they were even crazier
than I remember at this point, which is saying a lot.
And this can bring us to do you want to do,
Dan Goldman right now, because this is how bad it's gotten.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
They are now at CNN and MSNBC even willing to
humiliate Democrat congress people for what they said on the program.
So let's play the flashback here. This is May of
twenty twenty three. Representative Dan Goldman, Democrat of New York,
the most zealous Biden defenders tells ABC's Jean Carl Biden

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wouldn't pardon Hunter.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Listen, do you think a pardon for his son would
be a mistake? Yes, And I don't think there's any
chance that President Biden is going to do that, unlike
his predecessor, who pardoned all of his friends and anyone
who had any access to him. And I think you
see that in this case where he kept on and
Merrick Garland kept on. A Trump appointed US attorney to

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investigate the president's son. If there is not an indication
of the independence of the Department of Justice, beyond that,
I don't know what we could look for.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
To her credit, Brianna Kyler, I might be mispronounced Keeler.
All right, No, no, you knew either. CNN's morning host.
I think she's the morning host.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
She made Dan Goldman this is really funny, Buck. I
gotta admit that I watched this and I this like
this is good television. She made Dan Goldman watch video
of himself claiming Biden wouldn't pardon his son, and then said,
what does that feel like?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Listen?

Speaker 5 (06:07):
You took him at his word, So what does that
feel like knowing that he's gone back on it.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
I said many times that if Hunter Biden were not
Hunter Biden, he would never be charged with these crimes.
And when you start to see what Donald Trump is
planning to do with his Department of Justice and with
his FBI, and the degree to which Hunter Biden has
already been shamelessly attacked as a private citizen by Republicans,

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I certainly understand why the President felt like this miscarriage
of justice should not carry forward and that he should
not be at risk of retributive prosecution for political reasons.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay, that actually clip is not her pushing him as
aggressively as she did. To her credit, the clip that
I watched a couple of times, Bucks, she like actually
called him out as he was answering no.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
She basically like, no, no, no, seriously, how does it feel?

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Like?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
She kept going back to, like, we get your version
of it too. That was a longer form version, a
little bit different. But it goes to our larger point here, Buck,
which is even the journalists are embarrassed to have been
involved in this right now.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
So a couple of two things here. On your point
about the embarrassment, this is a little bit like, and
I'm not you know, I haven't married long and I'm
not saying this has happened to me, but I have
been in the car before driving with perhaps a woman
also in the car.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Maybe it was my wife. Maybe this is many many
years ago. And you say pre gps.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Because that's how old I am. I know where I'm going,
it's fine. And then you get so lost and you
can feel just the seething anger and irritation at whoever
is sitting next to you in that car because you
have now taken them into the middle.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Clay my family, my.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Dad, if he's listening, he's gonna yell at me for this.
We used to go visit my family in Charlottesville. Are
our other family in Charlottesville every year for Thanksgiving for
many many years maker we would get lost and end
up in the Battle of Manassas Battlefield every year somehow
at like midnight too because of all the traffic, so
we're like running out of gas. Battle of Manassas Battlefield,

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how you used to visit historically, by the way, in
northern Virginia, not far from DC.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
It is not Charlottesville. Yes, that's accurate.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
But I remember my Mom's sitting there and you can
feel that is how these journals now feel about these
Democrats who have led them across the middle and thrown
a wobbly pass football. Oh there you go, yesk you
and the other thing though, and maybe this is a
more important point, Clay. Here's this guy Goldman. He's a lawyer,
he's a member of Congress. He was the hero of

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impeachment two point zero for Democrats.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
He's acting like hunter. Biden didn't do all of these things.
It is not.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Persecution if you broke the law and everybody he knows it,
and there's serious laws that other people go to prison for.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Here is something that I would say is the most
underutilized phrase in American life today.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
This congressman, if he weren't so self serious, could have
watched himself make a fool of himself and say, how
does that feel. I mean, that's a very valid question.
That's something that CNN should actually do, and he should
say I was wrong. And Joe Biden turned his back

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on the entire argument that he made and that I
tried to make on his behalf, that Democrats stood for
the rule of law and Republicans did not. I think
he made a poor choice, and I wouldn't defend him,
and I'm not going to defend him. I still believe
what I said six months ago, a year ago. Why
could nobody say that? Why do you have to objectly

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ritually humiliate yourself Sometimes people do dumb things. When you
do something really stupid, everyone in America appreciates when you
just say I was wrong. Buck, you were talking about
being in a relationship. I don't know if I said
it on this program or I said it on an
interview I did with a comedian. Recently, people say the

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three most powerful words in a relationship or I love you,
They're totally, incompletely wrong. You expect that the person you're
in a relationship with loves you. I was wrong is
actually the far more powerful three word phrase. Every married
woman in America would rather her husband say I was

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wrong than I love you. And the ones who are
listening to me right now and don't agree are lying.
They would all rather you say I was wrong. Why
can't someone on television. I had to do this all
the time, Buck, when I gambled on sports, I had
to come on TV sixty percent of the time be like,
you know, what.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I'm a moron. I was wrong. I thought this was
going to happen, and something else happened. That's life.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You have to change your opinion and react to what occurred.
Why can't this Goldman guy just say, you know what,
I was right? Biden turned his back on us, He
blew it. Why can't he just be honest.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
If he actually believes it.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
There's a part of me that feels like the Democrats
and the Democrat media getting away with being entirely wrong
and lying about everything COVID related gave them a new
level of hubris, you know, almost like if we could
get away with that and not have to do a
public accountability apology tour, we can get away with anything.

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I know, I'm maybe I'm connecting two disparate things, but
I do think that there was an unrivaled arrogance of
the so called media elites in this election. They were
living on another planet and they were saying things that
were blatantly and obviously false. They were delusional. They had
been made to believe delusions and made other people believe delusions,

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which is what we're seeing now this I can't believe
to that point, we now have Brianna Keeler, who is
a Democrat partisan posing as a journalist or a journalist
posing as a whatever Democrat partisan. Here she is pushing
Congressman Goldman as you were describing play it.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
What does that feel like watching yourself back then reassuring
people that Biden was not going to issue a pardon
for his son.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
Yeah, and I think that if that Plea agreement and
that Plea deal had gone through, there would be no pardon.
That was a satisfactory outcome.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Has already fallen Sorry, when you reacted, this was when
the deal had fallen through. And I hear what you're
saying about the cash Patel appointment, but you know you
took him at his word. So what does that feel
like knowing that he's gone back on it?

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Well, as I said, I'm disappointed.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, So credit to her for pushing back some there, buck,
But that's what don't you think?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
That's what people want to hear be accountable for what
you said and have to answer questions when you are
completely and totally wrong and you've been defending someone who
lied to the American public.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I think really that the media had just gotten so
used to getting away with the most egregious lies. And
then also there's another part of this that we shouldn't forget,
which is that once you have no integrity to protect,
what's the difference. Yeah, and I think that after the
dementia lie broke in front of the whole nation in
a way that no, you will not find a single

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person who will go on TV now from the Democrat
side and say Joe Biden actually was totally fine. Why
did everyone They might say he would win, which I
still or you know that he would have done better
than Kamala. I believe he would have done better than Kamala,
but still would have lost. But no one will say
that once you've lit your credibility on fire like that.
But what's the difference with saying Kamala is the greatest

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nominee in the history of the country or whatever. Right,
It's all the same when you've told that kind of lie.
And again, there should be consequences when you are wrong.
And I wish he would have just stood on the
principle if your position is that you should accept what
decisions the courts make, and somebody else it wasn't Goldman's

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decision to pardon his son and somebody else rejects that
you should stay committed to the principle and call out
your party into Some Democrats have been willing to do that,
but the most partisan are not, because they just immediately
shift and they will defend every decision even when it
is in fact indefensible. We'll take some of your calls

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Speaker 3 (16:07):
I want to bring you a little bit of the
conversation on the CNN side of the equation.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I did watch over at MSNBC.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
This morning, and Clay, let's be honest, they kind of
need me, you know what I mean? Now, all of
a sudden, being an MSNBC watcher is like being a
Florida voter circa two thousand, Like, oh man, they need
every single one they can get because every vote counts,
every viewer counts. Over there, they're having a rough one.

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But I've also been seeing a lot of the way
they're trying to process this on CNN and the way
that they're trying to line up the arguments against now
they're really honed in. They've they made almost no noise
at all about Christy nom at DHS, which I think
is interesting. They're not she's not on the Democrats hate
list right now for nominees at all. They don't even

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talk about it Tom Home and well Tom's super duper
qualified to do exactly what he does. So you know,
they they can't go If they can't go after qualifications
at all, what are they really going to say, we
don't like him because he's going to actually enforce the law. Well,
that's like an advertisement for him. They're going after hag Seth,
and they're going after cash Betel a lot, and I

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don't think that they're breaking through with any new arguments
or or changing any people's minds about this.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
We shall see though.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
In the meantime, it has been very interesting over there
as they try to deal with this new reality and
the reality this week of the Biden Pardon You had
Jeffery Tubin's he is he.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Back at seeing I thought he was He's back. He's back,
He's back. Wow.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Infamous Tubin as perhaps he could be known, we could
come up with some other names, but this is a
family show, so we keep a family friendly all the air.
But Jeffrey Tubin the first thing you google when you
see tub and we'll make sure you have your Google
filters on Tubit is a famous guy for certain reasons.
Some people are saying famous guy certain reasons. And here

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he is pointing out that JA six pardons because this
is on the upside of the Hunter Biden pardon, other
than us getting to marinate in their agony this week
overlooking like such idiots in the media.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Ooh, there's never going to pardon his son.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, we knew we would, But Clay, the possibility of
JA six pardons going up substantially is also tied to this.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
This is cut seven to the point about the January
sixth people have been convicted. Do you think this kind
of opens the door for that.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
It makes it more likely, and I think it already
was likely. You know, they're fifteen hundred people convicted in
the you know, broad January sixth investigation. Whether he pardons
every single one of them or just several hundred, I
think is is certain.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Most of them have already most of them have completed.

Speaker 8 (19:01):
Their sentences or they weren't sentenced to prison in the
first place. But there are several hundreds still in prison,
including some for extreme crimes of violence. Will Trump pardon
them all? I don't know, but I think the likelihood
of a substantial number of pardons went up today because
of what Biden did yesterday.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I like that that's recognized as a side effect, if
you will, of the Hunter of Biden parton McLay.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Can I just point out there are.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Many people We've talked a lot to Julie Kelly about this,
We've covered this a lot on the show. We've consistently
been highlighting the unfair treatment, the unjust treatment of j
six individuals Justice involved individuals from the sixth of January.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Perhaps we could call them although it.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Was injustice that they got, the fact that they were
prosecuted federally for trespassing. Yeah, is when you actually take
a step back, and I know that it's been normalized
for this stuff to happen to our side in the media,
and I know that we're supposed to think even though
we don't, we don't buy it, but you know, we're

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supposed to think that in some way this is you know,
the law is the law. People had the FBI raiding
their homes because they walked and we've seen the videos
they walked into the Capitol building when a lot of
them were actually kind of waved through by Capitol Hill police,
and they walked in and they took photos. I mean
there's that photo of them like respecting the ropes in

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the Statuary Hall or whatever. I mean, we've seen this stuff,
and the FBI went and hunted them down like they're
members of al Qaida.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
They absolutely should be part and they must be parted.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, And this is one where if they were asking
me advice, I told you what my advice would have
been for Joe Biden. Pardon Trump and when you're going
to pardon your son, this is one where I would
say to the Trump team, do everything on day one
remotely possible under U presidential powers, flood the zone. Because

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I don't want to be alarmist, but I think the
likelihood is you have to think about the trajectory of
where the country is headed. Democrats have a very good
chance of taking back the House in twenty twenty six.
Typically off president election years do not go well for
the party in power. We know that they have to

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a large extent, rigged many different blue states.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Everybody wants to say.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Oh, look at how unfair the jerrymandering is in Florida
or North Carolina. I mean, you got states where it's
almost impossible for Republicans to win any seats at all.
So both sides have jury rigged the House such that

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it's almost impossible for the party that is not in
power in those states to get very many seats at all.
So we only have twenty five or thirty seats that
are actually in play in a four hundred and thirty
five sea House of Representatives. That's the reality. I think
there's a good chance, given it's going to be two
twenty to two fifteen, that they will flip three seats

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take back control of the House. You've got to do
everything in the first year. Everything. I want every Senator
sleeping in Washington, DC every night. I want every member
of the House of Representatives sleeping every night in Washington,
d C. You've got basically a year to get everything done.
And a big part of this buck is you have

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to pardon I mean this clearly. I don't even want
anybody to misrepresent this. Every single January sixth defendant should
be pardoned on day one, every single one of them.
And this is important because they're going to say, what
about people who engaged in crimes of violence. They've been
over punished under DC law relative to what other violent

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criminals are going to do, Wipe and clean.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
If they were wearing BLM shirts and sang in America's
racist while they were punching the cops, MSNBC would have
been cheering for them. That's just the truth. We all
saw it. We saw it in twenty twenty. I witnessed this.
We witnessed this. It happened on my own block in
the city. I have not forgotten and I am not forgiving.
This needs to happen because there has been no accounting

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for that disparity that occurring. People say, oh, it's stopping
the peaceful transfer. Oh you know, take a walk off.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's over.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
This is with buck Hunter Biden's pardon opened the door
to no, there's no counter argument anymore. Oh what about
January sixth, like Rachel Maddow, like falling down like the
wicked witch of the West when she gets water thrown
on her, Like they're all done, They're all done. Hunter
Biden I think that's why they're so angry. Buck the Hunter,

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Biden pardon, cut their legs out from underneath.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
What's the arguments they're supposed to make? Now, where's this
sort of sanctimonious lib goes on TV. Look, it's about
our democracy, really, because I think it's about your scumbag
son raising tens of millions of dollars illegally, stashing it,
not paying taxes on it, money laundering it from China
and Barisma, which we have not forgotten about either, by
the way, and of course is covered by this part in.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
You know, I think we all know what was really
going on here, but also we're talking j six think for.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
A second, Clay about what we have been shown through
actions over the last twelve months. Donald Trump should face
prison time thirty seven count felony conviction. He should face
prison time for writing that an NDA payment that was

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legal was like attorney fee instead of NDA fee or
something on his and didn't file it in the election
committee paperwork, which was defrauding the and people, and therefore
it's a felony.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's insane, it's insane. You can't even say with a
straight face.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
That is conduct that Donald Trump should face the music
for a federal prosecutor or you know, a felony prosecution,
not federal state. But and then Hunter Biden should be
able to sell out his.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Country with tens of millions.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Of dollars collected as a bagman for influence, pedaling illegally
by a firearm, illegally used drugs, illegally, pay for prostitutes,
and walk away scott free. That is the justice system
that these sanctimonious libs for years now.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Have been saying we stand in defense of and they
know Clay.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Unless you are a totally deluded lunatic, you see this
for what it is.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
How about also a reassessment of Jan six eighty one
million votes. A lot of the people who showed up
on Jan. Six felt like Democrats cheated in the twenty
twenty election, maybe one hundred percent of them. Now that
we've had the twenty twenty four election and seven million

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fewer votes for Kamala have come in the first time
since nineteen thirty two. This is the data that I
have seen and if the team can confirm at one
hundred percent, I've seen in a variety of different sources,
not one county flipped to Kamala. A lot of you
are skeptical in twenty twenty when the election results came in.

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I get it, eighty one million out of nowhere for
Joe Biden. But now that we have twenty twenty four
and we can consider the entire Trump era, we can
look at the twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and twenty twenty
four vote totals as part of a larger mosaic. I
don't believe there's any way that Joe Biden legally got

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eighty one million votes.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
And some people are going to say, oh, my goodness,
you can't say my opinion is eighty one million. You
have to raise a real eyebrow when you look at
twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four and smack dab in
the middle is twenty twenty. My point on that for
those January sixth defendants, I'm never going to defend anybody

(27:19):
for breaking the law because BLM. You could be upset
about what you believed was mistreatment of George Floyd or
whatever else, and that doesn't justify you breaking the law.
You could be upset about the twenty twenty election. It
doesn't justify you breaking the law, but I definitely think
a reassessment.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I think they're probably right about the eighty one million
not being cast legally.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Percentage of them, but the fact that Kamala is seven
million fewer votes, the fact that Trump went up two
and a half or three million votes, the Trump votes
look a lot more legit in the wake of twenty
twenty four. The twenty twenty Trump votes do than the
twenty twenty Biden votes do. I mean, if we had
an honest media, a lot more people would be saying, hey,

(28:06):
let's just look at the data. Does this add up.
I'm just saying I would pardon on day one every
single January sixth defendant if I were Donald Trump, and
I would advise him to do so as well.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I think that he will. And if I'm wrong on
this one, I'll come on air and eat humble pie.
And you know, I think Trump will. I mean when
I say will, maybe it's gonna be phase's individual cases,
but I think he's going to get there. I think
you're going to see almost all, if not all, January
six individuals pardoned or commuted, which I would also note

(28:40):
was another possibility for Hunter Biden. He didn't have to
pardon his son, right, he could have waited until well,
I guess it depends when the sentencing is. But theoretically right,
he could have commuted any sentence that he can. You
commute preemptively. I've never seen that.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
It's a great point because they're trying to say, well, Trump,
this is the argument they're now left with. Trump pardoned
his his son in laws father, right, the Kushner father.
But he actually served all of his prison requirements. There's
a difference between pardoning someone after they've already served a punishment.

(29:19):
It basically just kind of cleans the deck, but you
actually did have to go and do some sort of penance.
Hunter didn't do anything right. Hunter has never had to
spend a night in a jail cell. Hunter has never
been handcuffed, to my knowledge ever in his life.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
This is what I've said all along.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Guy's not going to spend a single day in prison,
a single day in jail guaranteed, and he has not. So, yeah,
he evaded a count. He evaded accountability entirely, one hundred
percent evasion of account unless you want to say.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh, but his public reputation.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
The guy's a crack addict public reputation, I mean talking
about you know, it's insane, all right.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I hope that some of those people who invested in
those paintings, remember the guy who gave Hunter like seven
million dollars. Mmm, I don't know that was a good investment. Buck,
I would be a little bit nervous. You might see
some of them on eBay for like ten bucks. You know,
just take it, please take it anyway, all right.

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Luck in Thought at a Time Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
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Speaker 3 (32:26):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Just a note and
I'm sure our listeners, particularly on w r N YC,
are aware of this. The Penny trials underway. Daniel Penny
for the incident on the subway where he stepped in
the crazy guy shouting He's gonna kill everybody in the train.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Penny puts him in a headlock.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
And then Jordan Neely dies at the scene. Penny says
he did not mean to compress his neck and did
not mean to use lethal fours. The City of New
York watching this very closely. We will bring you any developments,
any updates that we see or hear on that as
they come in the meantime. Also on the criminal justice front,

(33:14):
Cash Patel named as the likely next FBI director under Trump.
I say likely because there are a couple of things
that have to happen. One is you've got Christopher Ray,
who the Democrats like, so unfortunately, that's a huge strike
against him. And there are a lot of things that I
think you could say or strikes against him. I think,
if I remember correctly, was he was he the one

(33:35):
who said Antifa is an idea or something like that,
it's not an organization. I can't remember which FBI director
said that, but anyway, I think it was him. A
lot of strikes against him. The usage of the FBI
to terrorize pro life activists who didn't hurt anybody, but
you know, block the access, like stood in the way
or you know, sat in a hallway or something for

(33:55):
abortion clinics.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Things like that.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
The FBI has been abused as a tool of pouls
on his watch, and he's got to go. Trump can fight, Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I actually want your expert analysis on this because I
meant to ask it yesterday. You worked in the CIA.
You know how big these bureaucracies are. How much can
the director or the leader of an FBI or a
CIA change the underlying dynamic at play in bureaucracies these big?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
This big?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
In other words, what is reasonable to expect based on
a new leader.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
That's a great question, and that's something that I've been
thinking about a lot because of some of the mandates
that these incoming Trump cabinet officials have to really shake
things up. I mean, I think one of the people
who has the among the hardest jobs in the incoming
Trump administration would be Tulsea Gabbert at d and I,
because the entire Intel Complex apparatus is very very good

(34:58):
at doing what it is has always done and ignoring
whoever's in charge. Yeah, so I think at the FBI,
and I haven't worked at the FBI, so I'm just
speaking from colleagues and you know, friends of mine who
have been there for many years. I think at the FBI,
if you have a director, I think you can set
the tone and the culture and that that filters down

(35:20):
in substantial ways. But you have to be really clear
about it, and you have to be relentless, and if
you're taking on the system in some way, be ready
for a lot of slow roll. People always say, what
about the pushback or the blowback? It's not that so much,
it's they just don't do what you tell them to do,
and dare you to do something about it? And that's

(35:43):
very hard, right, if you know, when people defy you
in a bureaucracy, there can be consequences when people just say, yeah,
I'm on it, I'm working on it, you know what
I'm saying that that's the big challenge. So now Cash
is going to go in there. I think he's assuming
he gets in, which means he's got to get Republicans
in the Senate to go along with this. Remember we

(36:05):
got Collins Murkowski. There's some very shaky votes right out
of the gate for anybody who's taking on the system.
Clay and I both said Cash is the guy that
we think should have the job. So that's we're on record.
That was before Trump announced this, so that that obviously stands. Clay,
I think he's going to run into some some substantial
pushback from people who are institutionalists or people who are

(36:30):
very much believers in the system. And the thing that
Cash is going to have to do is show them,
assuming he gets in, show them as FBI director, the
real hard proof that exists of the kinds of politicization
and weaponization that happened. Now, remember he built his name
alongside Devin Newnest looking into a Russia collusion, so he

(36:52):
knows this stuff. It's not like he's coming in here.
I like Tulci a lot. I think she's a good person,
a good patriot and everything else. She does not know
the intel community. She's going to have a very hard
time in that job. It's not a knock on her.
It's just gonna be very tough. Cash knows where I
don't want to say where the bodies are buried, but

(37:13):
you know, he knows where the skeletons are hidden.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I guess that's kind of the same thing. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
My analysis, and I'm curious if you would sign on
to it is there are lots of good lower level
FBI guys and gals out there all over the country
that join the FBI because they want to catch bad guys.
And as you move up the food chain, the FBI,

(37:39):
like many other organizations, becomes constrained by the bureaucracy, and
there are lots of guys and gals in the middle
tier and upper management that basically consider the FBI to
be their career job and it doesn't matter who their
boss is. To your point, they can slow roll it.
Presidents only get four years. They got thirty and forty

(38:02):
year careers, and they are the impediment to actual justice
in the United States. It's not the seventy percent of
people that are going out there trying to catch bad
guys on a regular basis. It's the thirty percent in
management structure that is hard to get through. If you
are somebody who's taken over this organization.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Ron DeSantis is somebody who understands what it is to
go against the bureaucratic blob, in his case, standing against
the CDC during COVID and the madness of Fauciism and
all that, and also really just whipping Florida into shape.
I mean not just because I live here. This place.
Florida just kind of adds to its awesomeness every year now,

(38:45):
and it's because a lot of great people from all
over the country, particularly the Northeastern corridor, have moved to
Florida because they want more of what Florida has been offering.
So I'm just saying Ron knows results. He's gotten results
in his state, and he underderstands what cash Betel is
up against. And I wanted you to hear Governor DeSantis's
analysis of Cash Battel at FBI play fourteen.

Speaker 9 (39:08):
Cash Pattel understands the problems with the FBI and he
is a reformer that will not be captured by the bureaucrats.
Contrast that to our current FBI director Christopher Ray. We
remember when he got appointed back in twenty seventeen, he
immediately became a company man and was captured by that institution.
He has not reformed it in any way, shape or form.

(39:29):
And so I actually think Cash has a lot of
very significant experience that's important here, but put that aside.
You can be the smartest guy in the world. You
can have all this experience, if you don't understand that
the institution needs to be reformed. If you get captured,
then you're done. You're not going to be effective.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah, that's that's the whole game, right now, That's the
whole situation.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
And this is why I would just reiterate, and I'm
going to keep slamming it. And I know you are.
You got to move fast and break things. And this
is where I worry a little bit. If you ask me, Okay, Clay,
what do you think about Elon and Vivek and their
attempt to make government more efficient? We all need that
to happen. My concern is, I so Elon is the

(40:20):
best to ever create rockets to go to space. He
is the best to ever reconsider how to make a
vehicle propel itself right. He replaced the combustion engine. He
has done two things already in his life that people
would have said to him, you are crazy if you're

(40:41):
trying to do it. My concern is, when you're an executive,
you can break things and move fast.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
That's why I liked.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Running my own media company, not because I made every
decision perfectly, but because sometimes even making the wrong decision
is better than inertia. It's so I hate meetings. I
hate meetings in government and big business. All you do
is sit in meetings all day and talk about ideas
of things you might do instead of actually doing them.

(41:13):
My concern buck is that Elon is just going to
get impatient, and he's going to say this is so
inefficient I can do I can make things happen quicker
in the private sector, and he's just going to get
burned out.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
And I think that's why he's.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Trying to get so many people in positions and advocating
for people who will move fast and break things. Because
that's better than just sitting still.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I feel like Elon has signed up to be he
thinks the personal trainer for somebody who needs to lose
you know, twenty or thirty pounds, and the client's going
to show up on the first day and the client
where it weighs like twelve hundred pounds.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Like, I think he has no.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Idea how bad scope and slovenly, you know, nature of
the federal governments. I mean I shouldn't say no idea.
He obviously he's taking the song because he understands. But
I mean, once you get in and you start to
look under the hood, it's going to get really ugly
really fast. So I do have I have that concern
about Elon, and I think with cash at at FBI,

(42:13):
it's critical that he moves very quickly because this is
all going to get bogged down in politics really fast,
meaning you know, members of Congress are going to start
to lose their sense of urgency, you know, sense of urgency.
Kerry and I went to a very you know, it
was kind of a holiday treat for us. Went to

(42:34):
a very nice restaurant, a fancy place in New York,
and we actually got a tour of the kitchen, and
they said, yeah, it was per se.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I've never been before, it is.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Are they fans of the show? Why did you get
the tour of the kitchen. That's a nice additional benefit.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Honestly, because my wife is pretty and very nice.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
I think that was why.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
By the way, be it pretty and very nice can
get a woman very far. That's a good, very good combination.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
I think they're like, she's pretty and she's very polite
and friendly to all the staff, so they gave us.
I bring it up though, because in this kitchen. This
is a three Michelin star restaurant, so there's only two
of them in New York City. And look, I've you know,
I've never been before. We'd always wanted to go, we'd
never been to get a reservation. It's kind of a
it's a special occasion place. People are there for their birthdays,
people are there for anniversaries, right, and that's really the

(43:23):
And they had one plaque on the wall, just randomly,
one thing sense of urgency, and that really stuck out
in my mind because that is apt to operate at
that level. I know you're saying, oh, it's like a
kitchen whenever you're work in a kitchen. No, it can
either be a Swiss watch or it can be total chaos. Right,

(43:45):
this place was a Swiss watch at the highest level.
This place was absolute precision, no surprise, one of those
famous restaurants in the world, Thomas Keller place.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Sense of urgency.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
That is what should be in every government office, everywhere
in the country, for whatever the mission is, whether you're
a Department of agriculture, and if it doesn't make sense
to you, why you should have a sense of urgency.
You either shouldn't be working there or the place shouldn't exist,
you know what I mean. And that is what they're
going to be fighting in the whole federal bureaucracy.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah, and that's my thing in general with what I'm
afraid Elon is going to run into is, you know,
move fast and break things. Is the dynamic of many
of you out there that are entrepreneurs. Try something, it
might work. If it doesn't, you can pivot and try
something else. That is the entire concept, and it's the
antithesis of everything that our government has come to represent.

(44:39):
And so that's my concern with Cash, It's my concern
with anybody taking over these agencies. Even if you have
the right ideas, there is and this is one worse
Trump got to completely right, there is a swamp that
doesn't really want to do anything, at least in business.
In theory, the goal is to make a profit.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I don't even know what the.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Goal is of most bit of most of our government
other than for those people to have jobs. Like if
you work at a for profit business, okay, your job
is to make money and create a bigger business. That's
very easy to understand. Everybody understands that concept. What is
the purpose of government? I don't know that there's a

(45:25):
good answer for huge swaths of our government.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
You know, Elon has has used this meme or has
retweeted this meme. The whole Office Space the Two Bob's
timeless for gen X and and millennials. Office Space is
a very powerful movie for what it was, and the
two Bobs saying what would you say you do here?
That doge office of Doge in that meme are getting

(45:49):
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the Federal Department of Education, what would you say you
do here? And we're gonna speak slowly so we can
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Speaker 2 (48:20):
The continued fallout of the Joe Biden decision to part
in Hunter will take some of your calls. We also
should mention and we have that right now, the jury
is deliberating in the Daniel Penny case in New York
City that so many of you certainly listening to us
on WR in the New York City area, have been

(48:42):
following closely. But also I feel this is a case
the subway marauding individual that Daniel Penny put into a
choke hold that died, that many of you out there
have been following as sort of a idea of what
is actually permissible inside of a Democrat city. Oh, you

(49:04):
can decide that you're going to commit any crime of
violence that you want, but if anyone tries to step
forward as a civilian and offer protection, oh, those are
the people that we are going to decide to prosecute
to the fullest extent of the law. In Alvin Braggs,
New York, in LA in so many different blue cities

(49:26):
inside of blue states. That is the reality, and so
we will keep you updated. But certainly we believe Daniel
Penny should be based on the evidence that I have seen,
I'm sure you've seen, Buck be found not guilty of
these charges that were brought against him. And we will
see what a New York City jury, to be fair,
is not the jury that I would want to be
judged by in any case, what a New York City

(49:48):
jury does big picture. One of the questions we've been
talking about since Trump won the popular vote and romp
to three hundred and twelve electoral College votes, since Republicans
won the Senate and the House, is how would Democrats
handle the red tsunami sweeping over them. I mentioned it

(50:09):
is true that Kamala Harris became the first president presidential candidate.
This is nineteen thirty two not to flip a single county.
Think about how crazy that is. She got worse in
all fifty states, but there's not even a county that
was a red voting county in twenty twenty that flipped
to blue in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Unprecedented. How would Democrats respond?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Would they rationally look in the mirror and say, hey,
we got our ass kicked because we had a poor
candidate who ran on issues by and large that the
American public did not feel addressed the vast majority of
the challenges that they were facing. Or would they decide
that they weren't left wing enough and that the real

(50:55):
reason was racism, sexism, identity politics working against them, And
would they in any way try to embrace the truth
or would they continue to spread lies? So far buck
the spread lies. Choice has won. CNN and MSNBC's ratings
are tanking, and they're now defending the decision. On CNN,

(51:16):
at least one woman is for Hunter Biden to have
been pardoned because Trump is going to bring firing squads
for his political enemies. This is legitimately what was said
on CNN last night.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Listen. Wasn't it a lie?

Speaker 10 (51:30):
I mean, you can defend it, but wasn't it a
lie that he was not going to pardon it?

Speaker 6 (51:34):
No.

Speaker 10 (51:34):
I believe the circumstances have changed. I think that we
now have a president coming into office who's talking about
firing squads, who's talking about running people around the country
and making sure that everyone who's his enemy is going
to be punished and Hunter Biden lied about his drug
use on a government for him when he was buying
a gun, and he failed to file and pay taxes

(51:55):
when he was a drug addict. He paid back those
taxes with interest. Johnald Trump himself was indicted for seventeen
counts of criminal tax fraud, more than Hunters. And he's
going to be the president of the UNIDOS seven.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Okay, So well, I want to go back to the
firing squad line. Many of you will remember, I would
say this was peaud dishonesty. Buck In the frenzy of
the final few days of the campaign, Liz Cheney herself
tried to spread the argument that Trump was saying he
was going to put her in front of a firing squad. Actually,
for anyone who listened to that, Trump said that there

(52:27):
are a lot of chickenhawks, that is, people who want
to have your sons and daughters put in mortal peril
and wars, that they themselves would not be willing to fight,
and that they themselves would not be willing to put
their own families forward to fight. It's a very common
argument in favor of peace and against war. And they
tried to argue that Liz Cheney was being threatened with

(52:48):
a firing squad by Donald Trump, when it was actually
the exact opposite. He didn't want anybody to be facing
weapons of war. He wants peace. And so the fact
that they are continuing to spread this and let me
just say, also on CNN, which claims to care so
much about fact checking, why would Abby Phillip allow that

(53:09):
comment to be made and not immediately step in and say, actually,
that's untrue. I think again, in the larger accounting buck,
what we have seen is MSNBC, CNN, New York Times,
Washington Post, ABCNBCCBS, all of these legacy media outlets.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Their legitimacy has collapsed.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
And in the same way that we just played that
audio of Kashptel being attacked as if he is the
sort of the embodiment of MAGA. Actually, when you get
attacked by these people, it helps now because everyone has
seen that they are so transparently dishonest.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
It makes me think, who is the most effective person
in public life right now making the case against Trump
and against trump Ism. If we had to pull together
an all star team such as it is, okay you
could say, don't call them all stars. But if you
asked me to put together the Communist Avengers, the anti

(54:11):
Trump resistance superstars, I don't know who would.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Be on that list.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Politicians or pundits right now because they've been so humiliated
by the events of the last year. Humiliated by the
prosecutions of Donald Trump that went nowhere, in fact, probably
elevated him to untouchable heights in the primary, the Republican primary,
and then galvanized the Republican Party behind him like never before.

(54:41):
You know, they were humiliated with that, they were humiliated
by the Joe Biden dementia issue. Then by pretending that
Kamala Harris wasn't the worst tendidate we've ever seen. I've
never seen anything like this before in my life, right,
I don't think any of us have where after this election.
Now they're trying to say, notice, how we're not saying
the election stolen? Yes, because everybody knows you got your

(55:02):
asses kicked, like it's not even a question, it's not
even close. So when you add all this together, who
can we look to right now?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
And the only people coming.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Forward are the crazies. I've never heard of this woman before.
I mean, she looks you just look at her eyes.
She looks like a wacko and she's talking about firing squads.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I mean, this is insane.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
This is the kind of stuff that you should say
and people should have to do like a wellness check
on you.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
It makes no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
And I think that the Democrat Party is just licking
their wounds in a way that, like I said, we've
never seen before.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
And who's even the I watched Morning Joe this morning.
It's it's sad. It's sad. They're like cash Buttelo is
gonna be so mean to us. Yes, that's the point.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
I also think what you have seen as these historic
legacy media organizations have their influence collapse around them, you're
also seeing how few people are actually will to do
the barest amount of homework to go on television. A
lot of people don't go to the primary sources. They

(56:07):
comment on the commentary. This is really important. I remember
I had a law professor and he was talking about contracts,
and he said, you know what the three most important
things are when you get involved in.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
The contract, contract to contract. I know this story. I
like this one.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
It's exactly right. The contract to contract to contract. I
think about that all the time. Whenever I'm trying to
build whatever opinions I have, I want to go to
the primary sources. I don't want to hear someone reacting
to a primary source and then react to them. I
want to at least have seen the primary source myself and.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
What you see.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
And I think a lot of these people are getting
exposed on social media now because X is more of
a fair forum. Is many of these people like that
woman saying, oh, he wants to bring firing squads. Did
she actually even take the time to watch the video
so that she could see for herself. I think many
of these people buck because they controlled the narrative wheels,

(57:07):
the very fine people hoax which they were able to
propagate to define Trump as a racist, white supremacist, neo Nazi.
They got cocky because they controlled all the mechanisms of
distribution in a top down way, and if somebody came
on and read off a teleprompter, oh, Trump said that

(57:29):
neo Nazis are very fine people. They were allowed to
set the parameters of debate, And now suddenly many of
you and some of us are able to look at
that and say, wait a minute, you're distorting the reality
in order to create your own narrative, and that is
collapsing around them. They don't have that ability anymore.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
I also think the same way that college Republicans are
so many of them. I mean I remember back in
the day when I was a college Republican. So many
of them are ready to go on Fox News by
like freshman year at college, sophomore year at college, because
they've been fighting against the tide ideologically for years at

(58:11):
that point, and that makes them better by the time
they graduate. Certainly, people who have been open conservatives in college,
assuming they don't go to like you know, the rare
sane conservative colleges that are out there, it's it's indicative,
I think clay of people who have had to fight
for their ideas and are adept at doing so. I

(58:32):
think a similar reality has played out in the media.
I think that conservative media because we've been and this
is a little sounds a little self congratulatory, but I
think it's the truth. You look at what our team
has had to do with people on our side have
had to put up with, particularly the last ten years
or so, with the social media stuff and the you know,

(58:54):
the absolute all in to destroy Trump from Washington Post,
the New York Times. We've been having to fight, and
we're kind of like seasoned veterans of media awards at
this point. These people you see going on the cable
news channels like MSNBCC at N and the people from
the New York Times go on them and from the

(59:15):
Washington Post, and they kind of so called elite Democrat media,
they're just not very good at this. Well, just can't
make the argument, you know what I'm saying. Like they're
like weeken flabby, and they're going up against a bunch
of conservative chads, you know, guys who have been bench
pressing all day.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah, well, I mean at his most basic level.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
My oldest son is in high school debate and you
did debate.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
But you can't win an argument unless you can make
the other side's argument better than the other side can.
And I thought you saw this really distilled. Certainly you
see it every night with Scott Jennings going up against
these guys. But I also think Scott Jennings is, by
the way, just smarter than a lot of the people
he's going up Again, I don't think Gavin Newsom is

(01:00:01):
a moron. He got exposed by Ron DeSantis and the
Sean Hannity debate. I thought that distinctly crystallized the difference.
I also thought you saw it with Tim Walls and
with JD.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Vance.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Jade Vance wiped the floor with Tim Walls, just like
Ron De Santis wiped the floor with Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
It's because Newsome.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
And Walls don't really know the arguments of Vance and DeSantis.
They don't live in a world where they see those arguments.
And as a result, you're faster and quicker on your feet,
and to your point, from a boxing perspective, you've bit
in the ring and taken some punches, and so you
don't have a glass jaw, and you're prepared for the

(01:00:47):
counter punch. And a lot of these liberal outlets they
just throw punches and they never have to worry about
somebody else coming back the other way, good boxers think
as much or more of about the CounterPunch then they
do the punch, because you can take a big swing,
but buddy, if you leave yourself open, the CounterPunch can
knock you out. And so many leftists don't ever have

(01:01:10):
to worry about the CounterPunch because they convince themselves that
they're so right that they think of themselves as these
battlers of democratic justice, and the reality is they're getting
wrecked because they don't know what they're fighting against.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
That's totally what I'm what I'm seeing here and laying out,
and it's why I think it has actually been to
the detriment of libs like you and I will go anyway,
Like if you got invited to the view tomorrow, by
the way, I would have to I don't know, I'd
have to like get a guest host because I'd have
to watch live in the audience between.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I would be there to your point they invited me,
I would be there with bells on, ready to roll.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I did this on Bill Maher's show. Yeah, you know,
you go into places. Our side is used to making
the case not only to opposition, but oftentimes in an
ambush situation. Right, So we have become art and I
don't just mean me and Clay. You know, obviously we're
in the house that Rush built. Russia did this for
so many years and built this incredible movement. But I'm

(01:02:07):
talking about our contemporaries right now as well, a lot
of them. I mean, they're I could rattle off ten
conservative media people off the top of my head that
are super smart and squared and more than ten, by
the way. But I'm saying I could fill out a
roster of people who can make all the arguments, who
can debate, who are quick on their feet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
The Libs are insane.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
I mean, they're just talking nonsense all the time. They
don't even know what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Your point is a good one, not only for media.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Because I'm sitting here thinking like, who would be the
best advocate for leftist ideas right now in media? I
can't think of one. That's not a good sign. I
also can't think of who the head of the Democrat
Party is. They are bereft right now of leadership in
not only political office, but just political ideas. That's right,

(01:02:52):
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