December 4, 2024 • 36 mins
Investigative reporter Julie Kelly with a J6 update. FBI tells Kash Patel that Iran hacked his phone. We’re in a “Deep State strikes back” moment. DeSantis floated to replace Hegseth? The slippery soap of gender “affirming” care, which is a misleading term. There’s no way the trans agenda is going to stop here. More Biden lies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off.
Now you know, Clay had to run to a flight,
so it's just the Buckster solo for this hour. I'll
be back with us tomorrow. Joining me right now. Our
friend Julie Kelly declassified is her sub stack. She's done
so much fantastic work on the issue of pardons for
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j six justice involved individuals. It's the terminal left views
is for actual criminals, so I guess we'll find something
else for them. Some people say political prisoners depends. Julie.
Appreciate you being with us. I want to get into
I want to get into some of the appointees if
I can here with you for a second. I'm sure
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you're following this closely. I know you know some of
these individuals. What are you thinking? I from the tea
leaf reading that I can do, from the various senators
and statements and things they've put out, it seems like
Pete is rallying up on Capitol Hill, getting more Senators
to come to his side, and I would put the
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likelihood of his confirmation going higher today than certainly it
seemed to be yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Sure that sounds about right, Buck, You know you just
can't allow the caving in to these hit jobs, these
character assassination attempts by the media and Democrats, and it
appears some Republicans are behind this as well. So by
sticking with Pete's nomination, the President and everyone else on
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this side demonstrates that those Breck Cavanaugh days are over
and it simply will not be tolerated because if this
nomination for somehow, somehow goes south, either maybe at the
hands of a group of Republican senators who don't want
the military reforms, who want to keep pumping billions of
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dollars in Ukraine and other places, you know, to keep
the laundering machine of military defense contracts going, then you
know that will be a troublesome sign. Lly think that
it was a good sign today that the President spoke
out and also Pete himself, So your announcis is probably
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spot on right there.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, well, we'll continue to follow it. I just feel
like we could get more updates while we're here on air.
In this hour, let's transition to what's going on with
the j six pardons that everyone's hoping are going to
be coming. I think it will be worthwhile. Julie for
you to remind everybody of you know, in the aftermath
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of the Hunter Biden pardon, for example, and there was
really no dispute over the facts. Hunter Biden committed many
many crimes, and they tried to make it go away,
or they tried to make it go away the first time,
and then they finally made it go away with the
presidential pardon the second time, and they were looking the
other way the whole time because he was a protected Democrat. This,
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the Democrats have started to say, makes it seem like
there's even more of a leeway. I don't know if
Trump needs it obviously, but more of a leeway for
Trump to pardon J six individuals. How do you see that?
And do they feel like, Wow, this is really, you know,
helping show the two tier justice system that we've been
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subjected to exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And I do have a piece up at my subject
you Classified with Julie Kelly that talks about hardening all
January sixth defendants, regardless of their charges or their convictions,
because unlike the kid glove handling of Hunter Biden, who
was never subjected to a pre dawn armed raid by
the counter Terrorism Task Force, like all these j sixers are.
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I know you saw the ring camera video I just
posted the other night of an FBI swat raid at
six o'clock in the morning, just this past October of
sec of a J six subject. So Hunter Biden wasn't
subjected to the torment the J sixers, especially those on
non exists charges right concocted charges. He was handled with
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kid gloves the entire process. He did not face the
true criminal charges that he should have starting with the violations.
But I do think Bock it is a gift to
the president and to J six defendants because it does
it has created momentum for a blanket amnesty for J sixers,
regardless of their accusations against them. So to that point,
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I think it's helpful because there is internal and external
debate as to what a pardon for J sixers look like.
Of course, the easy, low hanging fruit, you know, the
nine hundred or so who have been charged with misdemeanors before,
common misdemeanors that are not violent, that have never been
used in this capacity or wait previously and never will again.
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So it's easy to pardon those. But there is some
dispute about how to handle those who were charged or
convicted with assault school police officers. Well, even those who
were charged or convicted had to face this highly partisan,
rigged legal and judicial system in Washington at you and
I and Clay have been talking about for years. They
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were all of their due process rights were violated by
the government, by the judges, and of course by jurors,
which is why the DOJ has a one hundred percent
conviction rate before Washington the se juries. Why because they
are all Democrats who hate Donald Trump and his supporters.
So from beginning to end, Box this has been a
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rigged system no American should have faced. It violates our constitution,
It violates everything that we're about. And that is why
I believe support able to depart in and if Joe
Biden can do it for his son covering eight years,
then I think the president and his team can do
it for they now almost sixteen hundred JAY six defendants.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
What are something you mentioned someone who just had a
SWAT team recently and for J six related offenses. What
are some of the sentences that have been handed down
for people for what is essentially assault on a police officer.
I mean, just to give us a sense of what
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some of these what some of these you know, judges
have decided is fair when it comes to Trump supporters
and an assault on a police officer. I have a
feeling it was very different when it was BLM supporters
assaulting police officers, which we all got to watch for
an entire summer in twenty twenty. But give us a
sense of that, right.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So to your point the letter, all charges against BLM
and Antifa, all federal charges were dropped by the DCUs
Attorney and the Department of Justice. So anyone who was
charged with assaulting police, and of course the police were
the bad guys. Back then, you remember that book, right,
there were congressional hearings from Democrats about part police and
Secret Service and how they treated those protesters who were
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trying to you know, they burned down part of Saint
Church across from the White House, they tried to scale
the White House Spence, But the bad guys in that
scenario were the police officers. January sixth, they again assaultant
and a tax protesters standing outside. They weren't doing anything
close to what the Elmina people were attempting to do
in twenty twenty, yet they received medals. They received you know,
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praise by the President. They were considered heroes, not the
villains if they were just six months previously. But to
your question, egregious sentences handed down for those accused of
confrontations with police. Five seven ten years in federal prison
for a man named Tom Webster, a former New York
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Police New York City Police Department officer. He was on
detailer greasing mansion. He's a former marine, has never been
in trouble in his life. He confronted a SUGDC Metro
police officer who repeatedly was shoving a woman down the
steps outside the Capitol. He got in a confrontation with
the police officer. He called him a communist, said you
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don't attack American citizens. Nonetheless, the judge only allowed the
jury to see the confrontation with mister Webster in the
DC police officer, not what that police officer had been
doing ten to twelve minutes previously. Thomas Webster immediately convicted
one of the first trials in Washington in the spring
of twenty twenty two, sentenced to ten years hard time
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in federal prison. Never had a criminal record. Now there's
nothing comparable, not only in Washington, DC, for a case
like first, alcona police officer in the entire country. So again,
the sentences, like every other part of this prosecution, is
so such a double standard of justice and it just
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cannot cannot stand, and I don't think that president in
the end will allow it to stand.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Do we have any sense, truly, are you hearing anything
from your your sources and people in Trump circles that
you talk to about whether we can expect some emin
in action, right, because this is the harm, especially for
those incarcerated, is a day to day thing. It's every day.
So every day after Trump takes office that nothing has
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happened is another day that they are suffering. Do we
have any indications as to how quickly these pardons may
come down or we just don't know?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, I I it's an issue. I think it's
a priority. I know that it's a priority with the
team and with the president. You know, it's You're it's
very complicated because you do have people who are in
federal prison. You've got hundreds of them in prison right
now on various charges or about to be sent to prison.
You know, they're not stopping this. So I think that
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there are very intense internal discussions as to what can
be done on day one. I fully expect something will
be done on day one, and then how it will
proceed from there, what the proper venue is, whether attorney's office,
whether it's mean justice. You know how the rest of
those cases, convictions and those in prison especially are handbos so.
(10:08):
But you're right, every day that goes on is another
day that that incarcerated defendant and his or her family
members suffers. And I don't think that that sort of
suffering is something the president and his administration is going
to want to prolong.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Declassified is Julie's sub stack. Go subscribe, Go check it out.
Julie Kelly, assuming this parton comes down, you got to
come on the show and talk to us that day
about what it's like for all the individuals you've been
trying to advocate for and work with up to this point.
I mean, I would assume, and I don't want to
get ahead of ourselves here, but I would assume there's
going to be a lot of tears of joy from
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people who have had their lives given back to them.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's going to be an absolutely historic moment. But also
just personally, you know, something that I think about now
all the time what this is going to mean for
these people and their families. And yes, I definitely would
love to come back on when that happens, in any
future action taken to free these political prisoners.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Julie tell everybody Julie, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Take care but thanks.
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in Play and Buck. Here we've got the fight over
Trump nominees continuing to heat up. A lot of reporting today,
a lot of interest, particularly in the Pete Hegseth nomine
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nation for possible sectuary defense. Also, this assassination, I think
you'd have to call it that. It's certainly what it
looks like on the video. There's very clear video of
the hit happening in New York City. Police hunting for
the gunman. Now the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, in
(13:20):
a brazen targeted attack, killed right basically outside of our
New York City radio studio and just right in the
middle of midtown Manhattan. And just yeah, I mean, we
don't have any more details about it other than it
looks like the guy had a suppressor on a pistol
based on the video that I've seen, and took a
(13:41):
shot and then he's gun jammed. We tried to take
a second shot, and then he came up and shot
a few more rounds. So that's you know, that's not
something that I mean, I don't know. There's a lot
of ways that you could think this could go. To me.
It seems like somebody probably had a either a deep
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personal vendetta against him, or there might be some financial
situation that we're not aware of. But we just we
have nothing to go on in terms of motive. All
we have is this video at this stage, so we've
got that. Also, I thought this was this was interesting
on the nominees for the different Trump picks. As you know,
we've said Cash Bettel is the move for FBI, and
(14:28):
Cash is a great guy, and I'm hoping he'll come
and join us and talk here soon about I'm hoping
he gets through to the FBI because there's a couple
of things there. Because you got a current FBI director,
he'd have to step down or be fired. I think
Trump will do that. But you know, there's a few
different pieces that are moving around there, but I think
Cash will end up as FBI director. But he was,
(14:49):
according to CNN here informed by the FBI, the current FBI, right,
not the one that he's supposed to be leading, that
he had been targeted as part of an Iranian cyber
attack of his personal communications. So this is all we
have on this one. But I just we're being told
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here that the FBI that Cash is supposed to be
taking over taking the reins for right, has come out
and said, hey, would be FBI director, Iran has hacked
into your I'm assuming probably cell phone. I'm not sure
if the details are really out, but his personal communication,
(15:33):
so cell phone, right, And now I'm sitting I'm going,
why would Iran do that?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
How did Iran do that? And something doesn't smell right there,
you know what I mean? Something doesn't smell right about
that situation. I don't know. Obviously it's cyber hacked. That's bad.
But I'm saying there's more to this. There's more to this.
You are in the of a deep state strikes back moment,
(16:05):
not just with cash but in general, because I think
the reality is setting in that there's going to be
a new sheriff in town, a bunch of new sheriffs
in town with this Trump administration. And they're serious about
the kinds of changes that they want to go forward with, right,
They're serious about reforming these institutions and getting rid of
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a lot of the ideological capture and the left wing
orthodoxy and some of the brainwashing even that's gone on
in there. The burrowing, the deep state, burrowing of Democrats
into places where they can influence policy but have absolutely
no oversight from the voter, where they can decide what
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people can and can't do with their own land, their
own money, their own a whole range of things, and
they're just bureaucrats, right, They're not supposed to have these
kinds of powers. This is going to come to I mean,
I would like this, it's going to come to an end.
This is going to come to a very different phase,
certainly in this Trump administration that we have seen before.
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That also brings me to the Pete Hegseth pick, which
the more they hate it, the more. I mean, as
I've already said, I like Pete, great guy, and I'm
hoping he gets through and I think you do a
great job. But the more they're just kicking and screaming
about it, the more I'm like, wow, hey, he is
really shaking them up. I mean, what you're getting the
sense of is you know, people talked about there's this
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Ron DeSantis possibility. Also Wall Street Journal reported on that
Ron is great, I think the best governor America. I
don't know if they get as freaked out about him
being a possible Secretary of Defense as they would Pete.
And anyway, I just think it's interesting the fact that
they're so all in against Pete. You know a lot
about a person by who their enemies are, and Pete's
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enemies are the absolute worst. So that's I think that's
very encouraging. I want to take your calls in this,
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welcome back in. I just saw reported New York Post
saying not a single senator is opposing Pete's nomination. So
it's looking like Pete's going to be a nexte very
defensive there. It's not official, not official, I shouldn't obviously,
not official until he has the job. But it is
looking good for him right now. We had we have
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him on Capitol Hill. We're not going to play it
because you really, those of you who spent time in
Capitol Hill. No, it is just echoes everywhere in those
hallways on the marble steps. But I can tell you
Pete said he was asked by reporters. He's with his wife.
He said, I spoke to Trump this morning. He said
keep fighting. Pete's insisting he's not going to back down
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and he's not going to let the media do this one.
So it looks like those senators who were having you know,
maybe maybe Lindsey Graham just wanted some attention. I don't know,
you know, they were having some problems again with some
of the stuff that had been reported, some of it alleged,
some of it fact, but they were having issues with whatever,
or maybe they just thought that, you know, having a
guy who's not former board member of raytheon or something
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as secretary of Defense is a bad idea. But anyway,
it's looking good for Pete. Happy for happy for my friend,
and I think that that will be fantastic if it
goes through. So a little bit, you know, this morning,
it was starting to be you had, you had Graham, Urkowski, Collins, Ernst.
I didn't mention this. Jony Ernst was kind of ify
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on it from what I had seen, And it looks
like Pete with his up on Capitol Hill, he slipped
it around. So that means it's looking good right now
from a Senate confirmation point. He still has the President's
full backing, and so my expectation right now is that
Pete's actually going to get through. We've also got the
big Supreme Court oral arguments this morning on the trans
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surgery for minors issue, and I just want to note
they call it gender affirmation surgery, And isn't that that's
so interesting. You're supposed to use a term that effectively
seeds the argument it is affirming their new gender, as
if it is possible to really do that. You can't
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actually change genders. It's not a thing they know. And
they'll say, oh, but gender and sex are different. I know,
they get into all the twist and turn and all
this stuff. They'll say that, and then they'll say that
a man who identifies as a woman should be able
to get into a boxing ring with a woman and
just absolutely, you know, beat her into a coma. And
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then that's fair because she's actually a woman. Right, So
they'll say, oh, they get into all this sort of
campus Wesleyan or Brown University faculty lounge talk about gender
and identity and all this stuff, but ultimately it's no,
this is a woman now, and you have to say
it's a woman. And we've seen where it goes right,
We've seen the slope is very slippery. You have to
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remember that people say slippery slope fallacy. It's actually not
a fallacy. The slope is very slippery. And we have
Matt Walsh who's done great work on this. Lots of
respect for what he's done on this issue. He's taken
a lot of heat for it. He's got a lot
of death threats for it. He's out there in front
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of he was obviously isn't live. He was out there
in front of the Supreme Court speaking on this issue.
You'll hear their activist sort of shouting and trying to
stop him from being able to speak. But I think
it'll be clear enough to use. We want to play
some of it. Here's here's Matt Walsh on why this
gender transition law, or banning the gender transitions of miners
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in Tennessee is an absolute moral necessity and a legal
necessity for the court play.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
We recognize three very basic truths. First, that biology is real,
It is immutable, It is not subject to the whims
of any individual or government or medical organization. Men are men,
Women are women.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
That's all there is to it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
You cannot change a person's biological identity, you cannot change their.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Sex, and you should not try.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Second, that the most essential and fundamental duty of any
society is to protect their children. A country that cannot
or will not protect its children is a country that
deserves to die and will.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Children are innocence and helpless.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
They know very little about themselves, very little about the
world around them. The third truth is this that gender ideology,
the radical leftist doctrine that claims that girls can be
boys and boys can be girls, and that such an
impossible transition can be made possible through irreversible drugs and surgery.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Gender ideology is deeply sinister.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It is a unique threat to children in particular.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's right all three points. And Matt has been on
this issue for a long time and understands that they're
always shifting and always changing the arguments to avoid the
obvious truths in front of your face. Right, They're always
trying to make this about Oh, there's some other external entity,
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some other organization that blesses this. Therefore you can't think
about what's really going on, or this is about being kind,
even though it's not about being kind. It's about people
telling you that you have to live a lie, you
have to live their lie. Essentially, the fact that this
has been able to go as far as it has,
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which we're now at the phase already where they have
put men and women's prisons, men and women's sports, men
and women's locker rooms, this is what is inevitably was
going to turn into. And I remember this from over
a decade ago, when I would talk about this on
my show in the early days, I said, you know,
this is there's no way they're going to stop here,
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because the unchangeable logic immutable, the unchangeable logic of this.
The enduring truth is that what they are telling you
doesn't make any sense. And if it doesn't matter, for example,
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what your genitalia is, and society is not allowed to
make rules that separate people and treat people by their
gender and treat people differently. If society is not allowed
to do that, why does some effort to change genitals
signify a change in gender. They have no answer for this.
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They don't even attempt to answer this, and you know,
I know that they will occasionally play this game. They
try this sometimes and say, what about individuals who are intersex,
which is a very rare but real medical condition where
you have some formation of both male and female parts.
It can manifest itself differently. Well, those generally, in those
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cases they based upon the development of those characteristics, the
person ends up living as either one or the other.
And that's not what the transagenda is about. That's not
because that's an incredibly rare condition and that's something that
is medically that is real and that does happen. But no,
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they want people who have lived their life for twenty
you know, they're in their thirties, their forties. They say, well,
now i'm a woman, you have to treat me like
I'm a woman. It's very rarely that it's and I
shouldn't say's very rare, but it's more rare that it
goes in the other direction, or a woman wants to
be male. Though the lawyer who argue this before the
Supreme Court falls into that category. If this was just
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about individual adults making choices, then I could see how
a lot of people come to the okay, well it's fine,
let people make their own choices conclusion. But it never
is that. And this is what I was talking to
Clay about before he had to jet. They want you
to start. This is why the pronoun thing is so important.
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The pronoun thing is so important because it is a
concession right off the bat, and they say, be polite,
use the preferred pronoun, use the preferred announce your pronoun.
So now everyone does this normalize pronoun announcement, so that
then everyone is doing it, so then it feels like
it's just this thing that's out there, and then people
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can choose what they want and it's all a concerted campaign.
When we know that in a just normal society, and
look at someone that's a he, that's a she, you know,
and in a very rare moment. If you don't know,
you ask, and you get to the biological reality of
it real fast because you can tell by their voice,
you can tell by their facial features. I mean, this
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is not this is not really as complicated as they
want to make it seem. But ultimately it comes down
to power, because the power to make you say things
that you know are untrue, the power to make you
go along with lies and to make you celebrate them,
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to make you believe them, is the ultimate political power.
I mean, this is what totalitarian systems want. For example, right,
this is something I've made quite a study of. I
don't know, maybe it's in my next next, it's in
my book which will be coming out in the fall.
Totalitarian systems always have to be built upon lies and
the forced belief in lies, because once people no longer
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are even entitled to parse what is true and what
is false, you can tell them and make them believe
or make them live their lives as though they believe
absolutely anything. And if we're going to be a society
where a two hundred and fifty pound man with you know,
a beard and chest hair, who grows his hair long
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and gets his fingernails painted because this stuff does happen,
says you know, I'm a woman now and you have
to just go along with that. And if you're a woman,
or if your daughter is a thirteen year old, she
is to change in the same dressing room and she
has This is where we have to draw a line.
And Matt Walsh is completely correct. I think the Supreme
Court is going to draw this line just on the
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issue of gender affirming care, which is another way of saying,
you know, gender transition surgery, sex change operation is what
we used to call them. I mean, interesting, why don't
we call that anymore because you're changing it. Notice they
wanted to be affirming it. The language is very important here,
which is just like what the pronoun thing. The language
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component matters gender affirmation, that's what you're supposed to call it.
They're not illegal aliens, they're undocumented. Just give them documents
and then everything is fine. Right, So, now, actually they're migrants.
Now you've noticed, they've they've completely even gotten beyond the undocumented.
Now it's now migrants is the new term. And I
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even find myself using it sometimes because unfortunately, unfortunately, and
people argue with me on this but they're wrong. Some
of the people who are here entered illegally but are
not current in an illegal status because they are pending
an asylum hearing, and our law lets them do that,
so that you know, and you could say, oh, but
(30:10):
they've they've lied. Yeah, well that's what the hearing is for.
So anyway, this is why I think the gender issue
is so important to the left as well. And this
is another one of the games they play, why do
you care about it so much? They'll say, well, why
do they care about it so much? They're the ones
that have made this a big issue. I know. I'm
not sitting here saying that there should be trans individuals
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competing against men in sports. You know, I'm not the
one pushing this or sorry, competing against women in sports,
you know what I mean. And I just think it's
so important that we're able to say what is true.
If we lose what is true, what's the point of
free speech? If we lose what is true? What's the
point of the First Amendment? And you know that's you know,
(30:59):
that's where it is. Look, I u uh man, it's
so much of a seesaw here. I'm now, I'm not
getting people telling me some inside. It's so hard. This
is all an info op, right, And I'm just going
on what people are telling me that they've heard from
other people. But now I'm hearing a couple of senators
are getting a little uh uh oh. No, I'm sorry. Well,
(31:21):
they they're they're they're gonna be hm. I gotta I
gotta parse this a little bit. There are some senators
who may be still concerned. It's different reporting on. This
is all I'm saying. Anyway, I think I think Pete's
I think Pete's right now as of today. I think
he's got the senators he needs on his side. Man,
what a what a seesaw? This is come back. I'll
take some of your calls, also take some of your
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Speaker 1 (33:15):
Closing up shop here on Clay and Buck. He'll be
back tomorrow, so we'll be doing show as a usual.
But Friday, I'm solo plays flying to Israel, so he's
gonna be over there bringing us some ground truth that'll
be really interesting for him. I've been to his room
many years ago. I would love to go back. I
(33:35):
will go back at some point and something else that
I wanted to get you before we close up shop today.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
The the judge who was overseeing the case against Hunter Biden,
Federal Judge Mark Scarze, wrote a.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Scathing judicial opinion where he noted that Biden lied about
his son in his presidential pardon. I won't get into
all this. It goes into some details, but the long
and the short of it is the whole. Oh, but
Hunter was a drug addict. That's why he didn't pay
his taxes. No, Hunter had, by his own admission, stop
(34:15):
using drugs at that point, set up LLCs and was
trying to be sophisticated in his tax evasion, So that
is a lie. So I just think it's so perfect
it encapsulates who Joe Biden really is that even when
he's pardoning his son for his serial criminal violations that
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were blatant, that were egregious, and that any other American
would go to prison for, he lies to make it
seem Joe Biden lies to make it seem like you
should have even more sympathy for his son, that somehow
here you go. Two federal judges expressly rejected mister Biden's
argument that the government prosecuted Biden because of his familiar
(34:59):
relation to the present sident and the president's own attorney
general and justice personnel oversaw the investigation leading to the charges.
In the President's estimation, this legion of federal civil servants
are unreasonable people. The Constitution provides the president with broad
authority to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the
(35:19):
United States, But nowhere does the Constitution give the president
the authority to rewrite history. End quote. Yeah, President's a liar,
and not a liar about little things. Not a liar
about his golf game, which apparently is not very good either.
(35:39):
According to Trump, he's a liar about the big stuff
and always has been and always will be. And he
fell asleep in a meeting, you know, a public meeting
in Africa in Angola. So you know the fact that
this guy's still even the president just goes to show you.
I mean, how can they have a problem with any
of Trump nominees for posts under him under his administration
(36:05):
when Joe Biden's the president and we think about that
for a second, So they can have a dementia pation
as the president. But we're supposed to demand perfection or
you know, however you want to frame it. But Trump
is not supposed to get the appointees that he wants
for his cabinet. That strikes me as that strikes me
(36:27):
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Talk to you then
All right, third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off.
Now you know, Clay had to run to a flight,
so it's just the Buckster solo for this hour. I'll
be back with us tomorrow. Joining me right now. Our
friend Julie Kelly declassified is her sub stack. She's done
so much fantastic work on the issue of pardons for
(00:21):
j six justice involved individuals. It's the terminal left views
is for actual criminals, so I guess we'll find something
else for them. Some people say political prisoners depends. Julie.
Appreciate you being with us. I want to get into
I want to get into some of the appointees if
I can here with you for a second. I'm sure
(00:42):
you're following this closely. I know you know some of
these individuals. What are you thinking? I from the tea
leaf reading that I can do, from the various senators
and statements and things they've put out, it seems like
Pete is rallying up on Capitol Hill, getting more Senators
to come to his side, and I would put the
(01:03):
likelihood of his confirmation going higher today than certainly it
seemed to be yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Sure that sounds about right, Buck, You know you just
can't allow the caving in to these hit jobs, these
character assassination attempts by the media and Democrats, and it
appears some Republicans are behind this as well. So by
sticking with Pete's nomination, the President and everyone else on
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this side demonstrates that those Breck Cavanaugh days are over
and it simply will not be tolerated because if this
nomination for somehow, somehow goes south, either maybe at the
hands of a group of Republican senators who don't want
the military reforms, who want to keep pumping billions of
(01:53):
dollars in Ukraine and other places, you know, to keep
the laundering machine of military defense contracts going, then you
know that will be a troublesome sign. Lly think that
it was a good sign today that the President spoke
out and also Pete himself, So your announcis is probably
(02:14):
spot on right there.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, well, we'll continue to follow it. I just feel
like we could get more updates while we're here on air.
In this hour, let's transition to what's going on with
the j six pardons that everyone's hoping are going to
be coming. I think it will be worthwhile. Julie for
you to remind everybody of you know, in the aftermath
(02:37):
of the Hunter Biden pardon, for example, and there was
really no dispute over the facts. Hunter Biden committed many
many crimes, and they tried to make it go away,
or they tried to make it go away the first time,
and then they finally made it go away with the
presidential pardon the second time, and they were looking the
other way the whole time because he was a protected Democrat. This,
(02:58):
the Democrats have started to say, makes it seem like
there's even more of a leeway. I don't know if
Trump needs it obviously, but more of a leeway for
Trump to pardon J six individuals. How do you see that?
And do they feel like, Wow, this is really, you know,
helping show the two tier justice system that we've been
(03:19):
subjected to exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And I do have a piece up at my subject
you Classified with Julie Kelly that talks about hardening all
January sixth defendants, regardless of their charges or their convictions,
because unlike the kid glove handling of Hunter Biden, who
was never subjected to a pre dawn armed raid by
the counter Terrorism Task Force, like all these j sixers are.
(03:42):
I know you saw the ring camera video I just
posted the other night of an FBI swat raid at
six o'clock in the morning, just this past October of
sec of a J six subject. So Hunter Biden wasn't
subjected to the torment the J sixers, especially those on
non exists charges right concocted charges. He was handled with
(04:03):
kid gloves the entire process. He did not face the
true criminal charges that he should have starting with the violations.
But I do think Bock it is a gift to
the president and to J six defendants because it does
it has created momentum for a blanket amnesty for J sixers,
regardless of their accusations against them. So to that point,
(04:28):
I think it's helpful because there is internal and external
debate as to what a pardon for J sixers look like.
Of course, the easy, low hanging fruit, you know, the
nine hundred or so who have been charged with misdemeanors before,
common misdemeanors that are not violent, that have never been
used in this capacity or wait previously and never will again.
(04:50):
So it's easy to pardon those. But there is some
dispute about how to handle those who were charged or
convicted with assault school police officers. Well, even those who
were charged or convicted had to face this highly partisan,
rigged legal and judicial system in Washington at you and
I and Clay have been talking about for years. They
(05:12):
were all of their due process rights were violated by
the government, by the judges, and of course by jurors,
which is why the DOJ has a one hundred percent
conviction rate before Washington the se juries. Why because they
are all Democrats who hate Donald Trump and his supporters.
So from beginning to end, Box this has been a
(05:34):
rigged system no American should have faced. It violates our constitution,
It violates everything that we're about. And that is why
I believe support able to depart in and if Joe
Biden can do it for his son covering eight years,
then I think the president and his team can do
it for they now almost sixteen hundred JAY six defendants.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
What are something you mentioned someone who just had a
SWAT team recently and for J six related offenses. What
are some of the sentences that have been handed down
for people for what is essentially assault on a police officer.
I mean, just to give us a sense of what
(06:15):
some of these what some of these you know, judges
have decided is fair when it comes to Trump supporters
and an assault on a police officer. I have a
feeling it was very different when it was BLM supporters
assaulting police officers, which we all got to watch for
an entire summer in twenty twenty. But give us a
sense of that, right.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So to your point the letter, all charges against BLM
and Antifa, all federal charges were dropped by the DCUs
Attorney and the Department of Justice. So anyone who was
charged with assaulting police, and of course the police were
the bad guys. Back then, you remember that book, right,
there were congressional hearings from Democrats about part police and
Secret Service and how they treated those protesters who were
(06:57):
trying to you know, they burned down part of Saint
Church across from the White House, they tried to scale
the White House Spence, But the bad guys in that
scenario were the police officers. January sixth, they again assaultant
and a tax protesters standing outside. They weren't doing anything
close to what the Elmina people were attempting to do
in twenty twenty, yet they received medals. They received you know,
(07:21):
praise by the President. They were considered heroes, not the
villains if they were just six months previously. But to
your question, egregious sentences handed down for those accused of
confrontations with police. Five seven ten years in federal prison
for a man named Tom Webster, a former New York
(07:44):
Police New York City Police Department officer. He was on
detailer greasing mansion. He's a former marine, has never been
in trouble in his life. He confronted a SUGDC Metro
police officer who repeatedly was shoving a woman down the
steps outside the Capitol. He got in a confrontation with
the police officer. He called him a communist, said you
(08:04):
don't attack American citizens. Nonetheless, the judge only allowed the
jury to see the confrontation with mister Webster in the
DC police officer, not what that police officer had been
doing ten to twelve minutes previously. Thomas Webster immediately convicted
one of the first trials in Washington in the spring
of twenty twenty two, sentenced to ten years hard time
(08:26):
in federal prison. Never had a criminal record. Now there's
nothing comparable, not only in Washington, DC, for a case
like first, alcona police officer in the entire country. So again,
the sentences, like every other part of this prosecution, is
so such a double standard of justice and it just
(08:47):
cannot cannot stand, and I don't think that president in
the end will allow it to stand.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Do we have any sense, truly, are you hearing anything
from your your sources and people in Trump circles that
you talk to about whether we can expect some emin
in action, right, because this is the harm, especially for
those incarcerated, is a day to day thing. It's every day.
So every day after Trump takes office that nothing has
(09:14):
happened is another day that they are suffering. Do we
have any indications as to how quickly these pardons may
come down or we just don't know?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, I I it's an issue. I think it's
a priority. I know that it's a priority with the
team and with the president. You know, it's You're it's
very complicated because you do have people who are in
federal prison. You've got hundreds of them in prison right
now on various charges or about to be sent to prison.
You know, they're not stopping this. So I think that
(09:44):
there are very intense internal discussions as to what can
be done on day one. I fully expect something will
be done on day one, and then how it will
proceed from there, what the proper venue is, whether attorney's office,
whether it's mean justice. You know how the rest of
those cases, convictions and those in prison especially are handbos so.
(10:08):
But you're right, every day that goes on is another
day that that incarcerated defendant and his or her family
members suffers. And I don't think that that sort of
suffering is something the president and his administration is going
to want to prolong.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Declassified is Julie's sub stack. Go subscribe, Go check it out.
Julie Kelly, assuming this parton comes down, you got to
come on the show and talk to us that day
about what it's like for all the individuals you've been
trying to advocate for and work with up to this point.
I mean, I would assume, and I don't want to
get ahead of ourselves here, but I would assume there's
going to be a lot of tears of joy from
(10:45):
people who have had their lives given back to them.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's going to be an absolutely historic moment. But also
just personally, you know, something that I think about now
all the time what this is going to mean for
these people and their families. And yes, I definitely would
love to come back on when that happens, in any
future action taken to free these political prisoners.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Julie tell everybody Julie, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Take care but thanks.
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in Play and Buck. Here we've got the fight over
Trump nominees continuing to heat up. A lot of reporting today,
a lot of interest, particularly in the Pete Hegseth nomine
(13:00):
nation for possible sectuary defense. Also, this assassination, I think
you'd have to call it that. It's certainly what it
looks like on the video. There's very clear video of
the hit happening in New York City. Police hunting for
the gunman. Now the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, in
(13:20):
a brazen targeted attack, killed right basically outside of our
New York City radio studio and just right in the
middle of midtown Manhattan. And just yeah, I mean, we
don't have any more details about it other than it
looks like the guy had a suppressor on a pistol
based on the video that I've seen, and took a
(13:41):
shot and then he's gun jammed. We tried to take
a second shot, and then he came up and shot
a few more rounds. So that's you know, that's not
something that I mean, I don't know. There's a lot
of ways that you could think this could go. To me.
It seems like somebody probably had a either a deep
(14:04):
personal vendetta against him, or there might be some financial
situation that we're not aware of. But we just we
have nothing to go on in terms of motive. All
we have is this video at this stage, so we've
got that. Also, I thought this was this was interesting
on the nominees for the different Trump picks. As you know,
we've said Cash Bettel is the move for FBI, and
(14:28):
Cash is a great guy, and I'm hoping he'll come
and join us and talk here soon about I'm hoping
he gets through to the FBI because there's a couple
of things there. Because you got a current FBI director,
he'd have to step down or be fired. I think
Trump will do that. But you know, there's a few
different pieces that are moving around there, but I think
Cash will end up as FBI director. But he was,
(14:49):
according to CNN here informed by the FBI, the current FBI, right,
not the one that he's supposed to be leading, that
he had been targeted as part of an Iranian cyber
attack of his personal communications. So this is all we
have on this one. But I just we're being told
(15:11):
here that the FBI that Cash is supposed to be
taking over taking the reins for right, has come out
and said, hey, would be FBI director, Iran has hacked
into your I'm assuming probably cell phone. I'm not sure
if the details are really out, but his personal communication,
(15:33):
so cell phone, right, And now I'm sitting I'm going,
why would Iran do that?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
How did Iran do that? And something doesn't smell right there,
you know what I mean? Something doesn't smell right about
that situation. I don't know. Obviously it's cyber hacked. That's bad.
But I'm saying there's more to this. There's more to this.
You are in the of a deep state strikes back moment,
(16:05):
not just with cash but in general, because I think
the reality is setting in that there's going to be
a new sheriff in town, a bunch of new sheriffs
in town with this Trump administration. And they're serious about
the kinds of changes that they want to go forward with, right,
They're serious about reforming these institutions and getting rid of
(16:28):
a lot of the ideological capture and the left wing
orthodoxy and some of the brainwashing even that's gone on
in there. The burrowing, the deep state, burrowing of Democrats
into places where they can influence policy but have absolutely
no oversight from the voter, where they can decide what
(16:49):
people can and can't do with their own land, their
own money, their own a whole range of things, and
they're just bureaucrats, right, They're not supposed to have these
kinds of powers. This is going to come to I mean,
I would like this, it's going to come to an end.
This is going to come to a very different phase,
certainly in this Trump administration that we have seen before.
(17:12):
That also brings me to the Pete Hegseth pick, which
the more they hate it, the more. I mean, as
I've already said, I like Pete, great guy, and I'm
hoping he gets through and I think you do a
great job. But the more they're just kicking and screaming
about it, the more I'm like, wow, hey, he is
really shaking them up. I mean, what you're getting the
sense of is you know, people talked about there's this
(17:33):
Ron DeSantis possibility. Also Wall Street Journal reported on that
Ron is great, I think the best governor America. I
don't know if they get as freaked out about him
being a possible Secretary of Defense as they would Pete.
And anyway, I just think it's interesting the fact that
they're so all in against Pete. You know a lot
about a person by who their enemies are, and Pete's
(17:54):
enemies are the absolute worst. So that's I think that's
very encouraging. I want to take your calls in this,
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welcome back in. I just saw reported New York Post
saying not a single senator is opposing Pete's nomination. So
it's looking like Pete's going to be a nexte very
defensive there. It's not official, not official, I shouldn't obviously,
not official until he has the job. But it is
looking good for him right now. We had we have
(19:21):
him on Capitol Hill. We're not going to play it
because you really, those of you who spent time in
Capitol Hill. No, it is just echoes everywhere in those
hallways on the marble steps. But I can tell you
Pete said he was asked by reporters. He's with his wife.
He said, I spoke to Trump this morning. He said
keep fighting. Pete's insisting he's not going to back down
(19:41):
and he's not going to let the media do this one.
So it looks like those senators who were having you know,
maybe maybe Lindsey Graham just wanted some attention. I don't know,
you know, they were having some problems again with some
of the stuff that had been reported, some of it alleged,
some of it fact, but they were having issues with whatever,
or maybe they just thought that, you know, having a
guy who's not former board member of raytheon or something
(20:05):
as secretary of Defense is a bad idea. But anyway,
it's looking good for Pete. Happy for happy for my friend,
and I think that that will be fantastic if it
goes through. So a little bit, you know, this morning,
it was starting to be you had, you had Graham, Urkowski, Collins, Ernst.
I didn't mention this. Jony Ernst was kind of ify
(20:28):
on it from what I had seen, And it looks
like Pete with his up on Capitol Hill, he slipped
it around. So that means it's looking good right now
from a Senate confirmation point. He still has the President's
full backing, and so my expectation right now is that
Pete's actually going to get through. We've also got the
big Supreme Court oral arguments this morning on the trans
(20:51):
surgery for minors issue, and I just want to note
they call it gender affirmation surgery, And isn't that that's
so interesting. You're supposed to use a term that effectively
seeds the argument it is affirming their new gender, as
if it is possible to really do that. You can't
(21:13):
actually change genders. It's not a thing they know. And
they'll say, oh, but gender and sex are different. I know,
they get into all the twist and turn and all
this stuff. They'll say that, and then they'll say that
a man who identifies as a woman should be able
to get into a boxing ring with a woman and
just absolutely, you know, beat her into a coma. And
(21:35):
then that's fair because she's actually a woman. Right, So
they'll say, oh, they get into all this sort of
campus Wesleyan or Brown University faculty lounge talk about gender
and identity and all this stuff, but ultimately it's no,
this is a woman now, and you have to say
it's a woman. And we've seen where it goes right,
We've seen the slope is very slippery. You have to
(21:57):
remember that people say slippery slope fallacy. It's actually not
a fallacy. The slope is very slippery. And we have
Matt Walsh who's done great work on this. Lots of
respect for what he's done on this issue. He's taken
a lot of heat for it. He's got a lot
of death threats for it. He's out there in front
(22:19):
of he was obviously isn't live. He was out there
in front of the Supreme Court speaking on this issue.
You'll hear their activist sort of shouting and trying to
stop him from being able to speak. But I think
it'll be clear enough to use. We want to play
some of it. Here's here's Matt Walsh on why this
gender transition law, or banning the gender transitions of miners
(22:39):
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necessity for the court play.
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of any individual or government or medical organization. Men are men,
Women are women.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
That's all there is to it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
You cannot change a person's biological identity, you cannot change their.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Sex, and you should not try.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Second, that the most essential and fundamental duty of any
society is to protect their children. A country that cannot
or will not protect its children is a country that
deserves to die and will.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Children are innocence and helpless.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
They know very little about themselves, very little about the
world around them. The third truth is this that gender ideology,
the radical leftist doctrine that claims that girls can be
boys and boys can be girls, and that such an
impossible transition can be made possible through irreversible drugs and surgery.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Gender ideology is deeply sinister.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It is a unique threat to children in particular.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's right all three points. And Matt has been on
this issue for a long time and understands that they're
always shifting and always changing the arguments to avoid the
obvious truths in front of your face. Right, They're always
trying to make this about Oh, there's some other external entity,
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some other organization that blesses this. Therefore you can't think
about what's really going on, or this is about being kind,
even though it's not about being kind. It's about people
telling you that you have to live a lie, you
have to live their lie. Essentially, the fact that this
has been able to go as far as it has,
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which we're now at the phase already where they have
put men and women's prisons, men and women's sports, men
and women's locker rooms, this is what is inevitably was
going to turn into. And I remember this from over
a decade ago, when I would talk about this on
my show in the early days, I said, you know,
this is there's no way they're going to stop here,
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because the unchangeable logic immutable, the unchangeable logic of this.
The enduring truth is that what they are telling you
doesn't make any sense. And if it doesn't matter, for example,
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what your genitalia is, and society is not allowed to
make rules that separate people and treat people by their
gender and treat people differently. If society is not allowed
to do that, why does some effort to change genitals
signify a change in gender. They have no answer for this.
(25:33):
They don't even attempt to answer this, and you know,
I know that they will occasionally play this game. They
try this sometimes and say, what about individuals who are intersex,
which is a very rare but real medical condition where
you have some formation of both male and female parts.
It can manifest itself differently. Well, those generally, in those
(25:56):
cases they based upon the development of those characteristics, the
person ends up living as either one or the other.
And that's not what the transagenda is about. That's not
because that's an incredibly rare condition and that's something that
is medically that is real and that does happen. But no,
(26:19):
they want people who have lived their life for twenty
you know, they're in their thirties, their forties. They say, well,
now i'm a woman, you have to treat me like
I'm a woman. It's very rarely that it's and I
shouldn't say's very rare, but it's more rare that it
goes in the other direction, or a woman wants to
be male. Though the lawyer who argue this before the
Supreme Court falls into that category. If this was just
(26:41):
about individual adults making choices, then I could see how
a lot of people come to the okay, well it's fine,
let people make their own choices conclusion. But it never
is that. And this is what I was talking to
Clay about before he had to jet. They want you
to start. This is why the pronoun thing is so important.
(27:03):
The pronoun thing is so important because it is a
concession right off the bat, and they say, be polite,
use the preferred pronoun, use the preferred announce your pronoun.
So now everyone does this normalize pronoun announcement, so that
then everyone is doing it, so then it feels like
it's just this thing that's out there, and then people
(27:23):
can choose what they want and it's all a concerted campaign.
When we know that in a just normal society, and
look at someone that's a he, that's a she, you know,
and in a very rare moment. If you don't know,
you ask, and you get to the biological reality of
it real fast because you can tell by their voice,
you can tell by their facial features. I mean, this
(27:45):
is not this is not really as complicated as they
want to make it seem. But ultimately it comes down
to power, because the power to make you say things
that you know are untrue, the power to make you
go along with lies and to make you celebrate them,
(28:05):
to make you believe them, is the ultimate political power.
I mean, this is what totalitarian systems want. For example, right,
this is something I've made quite a study of. I
don't know, maybe it's in my next next, it's in
my book which will be coming out in the fall.
Totalitarian systems always have to be built upon lies and
the forced belief in lies, because once people no longer
(28:26):
are even entitled to parse what is true and what
is false, you can tell them and make them believe
or make them live their lives as though they believe
absolutely anything. And if we're going to be a society
where a two hundred and fifty pound man with you know,
a beard and chest hair, who grows his hair long
(28:47):
and gets his fingernails painted because this stuff does happen,
says you know, I'm a woman now and you have
to just go along with that. And if you're a woman,
or if your daughter is a thirteen year old, she
is to change in the same dressing room and she
has This is where we have to draw a line.
And Matt Walsh is completely correct. I think the Supreme
Court is going to draw this line just on the
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issue of gender affirming care, which is another way of saying,
you know, gender transition surgery, sex change operation is what
we used to call them. I mean, interesting, why don't
we call that anymore because you're changing it. Notice they
wanted to be affirming it. The language is very important here,
which is just like what the pronoun thing. The language
(29:29):
component matters gender affirmation, that's what you're supposed to call it.
They're not illegal aliens, they're undocumented. Just give them documents
and then everything is fine. Right, So, now, actually they're migrants.
Now you've noticed, they've they've completely even gotten beyond the undocumented.
Now it's now migrants is the new term. And I
(29:49):
even find myself using it sometimes because unfortunately, unfortunately, and
people argue with me on this but they're wrong. Some
of the people who are here entered illegally but are
not current in an illegal status because they are pending
an asylum hearing, and our law lets them do that,
so that you know, and you could say, oh, but
(30:10):
they've they've lied. Yeah, well that's what the hearing is for.
So anyway, this is why I think the gender issue
is so important to the left as well. And this
is another one of the games they play, why do
you care about it so much? They'll say, well, why
do they care about it so much? They're the ones
that have made this a big issue. I know. I'm
not sitting here saying that there should be trans individuals
(30:34):
competing against men in sports. You know, I'm not the
one pushing this or sorry, competing against women in sports,
you know what I mean. And I just think it's
so important that we're able to say what is true.
If we lose what is true, what's the point of
free speech? If we lose what is true? What's the
point of the First Amendment? And you know that's you know,
(30:59):
that's where it is. Look, I u uh man, it's
so much of a seesaw here. I'm now, I'm not
getting people telling me some inside. It's so hard. This
is all an info op, right, And I'm just going
on what people are telling me that they've heard from
other people. But now I'm hearing a couple of senators
are getting a little uh uh oh. No, I'm sorry. Well,
(31:21):
they they're they're they're gonna be hm. I gotta I
gotta parse this a little bit. There are some senators
who may be still concerned. It's different reporting on. This
is all I'm saying. Anyway, I think I think Pete's
I think Pete's right now as of today. I think
he's got the senators he needs on his side. Man,
what a what a seesaw? This is come back. I'll
take some of your calls, also take some of your
(31:42):
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Speaker 1 (33:15):
Closing up shop here on Clay and Buck. He'll be
back tomorrow, so we'll be doing show as a usual.
But Friday, I'm solo plays flying to Israel, so he's
gonna be over there bringing us some ground truth that'll
be really interesting for him. I've been to his room
many years ago. I would love to go back. I
(33:35):
will go back at some point and something else that
I wanted to get you before we close up shop today.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
The the judge who was overseeing the case against Hunter Biden,
Federal Judge Mark Scarze, wrote a.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Scathing judicial opinion where he noted that Biden lied about
his son in his presidential pardon. I won't get into
all this. It goes into some details, but the long
and the short of it is the whole. Oh, but
Hunter was a drug addict. That's why he didn't pay
his taxes. No, Hunter had, by his own admission, stop
(34:15):
using drugs at that point, set up LLCs and was
trying to be sophisticated in his tax evasion, So that
is a lie. So I just think it's so perfect
it encapsulates who Joe Biden really is that even when
he's pardoning his son for his serial criminal violations that
(34:35):
were blatant, that were egregious, and that any other American
would go to prison for, he lies to make it
seem Joe Biden lies to make it seem like you
should have even more sympathy for his son, that somehow
here you go. Two federal judges expressly rejected mister Biden's
argument that the government prosecuted Biden because of his familiar
(34:59):
relation to the present sident and the president's own attorney
general and justice personnel oversaw the investigation leading to the charges.
In the President's estimation, this legion of federal civil servants
are unreasonable people. The Constitution provides the president with broad
authority to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the
(35:19):
United States, But nowhere does the Constitution give the president
the authority to rewrite history. End quote. Yeah, President's a liar,
and not a liar about little things. Not a liar
about his golf game, which apparently is not very good either.
(35:39):
According to Trump, he's a liar about the big stuff
and always has been and always will be. And he
fell asleep in a meeting, you know, a public meeting
in Africa in Angola. So you know the fact that
this guy's still even the president just goes to show you.
I mean, how can they have a problem with any
of Trump nominees for posts under him under his administration
(36:05):
when Joe Biden's the president and we think about that
for a second, So they can have a dementia pation
as the president. But we're supposed to demand perfection or
you know, however you want to frame it. But Trump
is not supposed to get the appointees that he wants
for his cabinet. That strikes me as that strikes me
(36:27):
as quite unfair, doesn't it. Thanks for being here with us,
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think we're gonna have a good news about the Pete
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