December 11, 2024 • 37 mins
In this episode, Tudor and James Hirsen discuss the intertwining of politics and entertainment. They explore Hollywood's reaction to political shifts, the role of celebrity in political discourse, and the impact of media on political narratives. The conversation also touches on the future of political leadership, the consequences of political actions, and the changing landscape of media consumption. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the CLay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm excited today I
have James Hearson with me. He is a New York
Times best selling author and international business attorney and weekly
columnist for news Max. But I think the most exciting
part about it is he kind of has a focus
on entertainment politics if that's a thing, which I think
is now officially a thing after this last race. So James,
(00:23):
thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's great to be with you. Tutor, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
For having me absolutely. So I want to get into
what happened in this past race. And I know people
are like, oh, we're on to the next. I mean,
it really is funny how politics works, because literally six
hours into the Wednesday after election day, I had people
calling me and they're like, okay, so let's talk about
twenty six And I was like, what we just won?
And oh no, that race is over. We're moving on,
(00:50):
you know. But people outside of politics don't really understand
how it works. And so we saw something really kind
of beautiful happen where Hollywood came around Joe Biden and
then they were told not to. And George Clooney is
feeling the burn of that isn't he Absolutely, But I want.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
To I want to mention you said something about people
want to move out. You have to remember, I'm in California.
We're still counting, counting as we count until the Democrat
candidate wins, don't you know, And so yes, it's not
over here. But in reference to Hollywood, you know, the
(01:29):
people in Hollywood, they've really always I've been covering them
for longer than I want to say. Uh, And I've
been in the industry because I'm an entertainment lawyer and
I represent these people, some of them who still work
with me, and they're they're just the industry is a
different kind of industry. It's super vicious. The people here
(01:54):
live in a special kind of bubble. You know, there
are bubbles all over the country. The biggest ones, of course,
we know, are on the East Coast, like especially in Manhattan,
and then of course in San Francisco and Los Angeles.
People really believe that those that they interface with, you know,
(02:15):
when they work at Disney, they think all these woke
people that they work with are America. They're shocked when
they find out that positions that are anti family, anti woman,
anti child, anti god, anti semit that these positions aren't
(02:37):
really popular, you know, and also pro censorship, high crime,
high prices for a support or all that because everyone
around them justifies and rationalizes supporting the left, supporting the
Democrat Party, and so they really live a distorted life.
(02:58):
So therefore the past election was it was more than
a shock. It was it was interdimensional shock, you know.
There these are people who normally go to gurus. Maybe
sometimes they go to a psychologist, but they go to
like new age gurus and scientology practition.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So unlike anything we know, right, and you.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Couldn't go because they were all booked up after the election.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Soub tramatized. Rob Reiner checked himself into a rehab facility
and eliminated his ex account and he's just you know,
and he's a mild case.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh no, I see all of these. I see all
of these celebrities, and like the left wing political celebrities too,
even in our state, our local you know, people that
would consider consider themselves local celebrities, like the local state
reps who most people actually don't know, but they think
they're celebrities. They've gone out on X and they've been
(04:02):
like follow me on Blue Sky and it makes me
laugh because I'm like, it's never going to happen. Like,
that's not going to happen, that you guys are going
to create a new social media you know, people have
trying to kill X for years. It's not happening.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They should have named it fetch, you know, I mean,
it's of course it's not going to happen. You know,
there's some troll people on the right or were going
on the Blue Sky and just for fun, they post
there are two genders, a man and a woman, and
they immediately get kicked off the site.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You know, I know, I love it. That's what I
think is so funny. I'm like, who, okay, So really,
what you're saying is you just want to be in
a place that's going to tell you exactly what you
want to hear. I want to stay in my bubble.
That's what this message is. Please leave me in my bubble.
I don't want to know what the rest of the world,
or at least the rest of the country is. Like,
I mean, I was on Newsmax and they were talking
(05:00):
I didn't even see this clip of Joy Behar, who
was like, I don't I had the opportunity. She says,
I had the opportunity to sit down with George Bush
and talk to him, and I refuse to do it
because I thought, what if I liked him? What if
I ended up having a cup of coffee with him
or a beer and I really enjoyed the conversation, and
(05:20):
there are a lot of nasty things I want to
say about him, So I didn't even do it. I thought, well,
of course, you will never come to see the other
side as human if you refuse to do human things
with them.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Absolutely, I mean that is so I actually feel sad
for her.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I want to, really, I want.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
To pray for her, because that's and how boring is
life if it's a bunch of people who have no debates,
no disagreements, no discussions, no challenges, and everyone agrees with you.
And really the truth is, of course none of these
star people can stand that they get right board because
(06:04):
they all have the really big stars have an entourage.
There was even an HBO show called Entourage and it's
it's a dangerous thing, but they have a bunch of
yes persons. Yes, oh, you're a genius. So that's a
great idea for a song. That's a great If you
have too many of those people, your career ends.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Because but I also think that if you are used
to that, if you're used to that in the in
Hollywood like that could kind of fly in Hollywood. In politics,
eventually you get busted. And I think that's what happened
in George Clooney.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, yeah, and in George Clooney's case, you know, he
still has a big entourage, still is a big star.
And the interesting thing these reports about Clooney and him
and his bromance with Obama ending come through unnamed sources,
and this is the way a lot of these stars operate.
(07:03):
So I don't know this for sure, but I would
bet that Clooney's behind the leaks because he's so frustrated
and he wants the message to be worded right. He
probably talked to his publicist, because there's an unnamed source
that went to the Daily Mail, there's another one that
(07:24):
went to Radar Online, another one I think went to
National Inquirer. And I mean, I can't believe all these
leaks just happened to come out, you know, just when
cloonyes realized and he's right by the way that he
was put right in the center of a target. Right
(07:45):
at the time after the election, when people were pointing
fingers of blame, wanting to find a person to blame,
there was Coony taking all this backlash on social media
because is what and you say, you know, George Clooney,
who is a talented person, he developed, an amazing persona
(08:09):
came from a sitcom and becomes you know where critics
compare him to Carry Grant and all this. I don't
think he's a Cary Grant and I don't think he
does either, but he is. He's a great screen presence.
Even now, Why would you go and write an op
ed in the New York Times and put yourself out
(08:32):
to be the lead guy, the lead celebrity, to perform
something evil, unethical, anti democratic, trying to be part of
a group that's going to force a sitting president who
already basically has the nomination to step down so that
a person that didn't face any kind of electoral consequences whatsoever,
(08:59):
just walts is in it becomes a nominee first time
in American history. Why would Clooney do that? Well, you know,
the courts are that after that fundraiser, mainly, first of way,
there was a debate if you recall that, where you know,
Biden just fell apart, decombusted on the air. It was
(09:23):
just a very embarrassing for the Democrats. And I think
the first calls for him to get out came from Hollywood.
There were people on Twitter, you know, the big mouths
like Stephen King and Rob Reiner and those people. But
for Clooney to be the lead guy. He was at
a fundraiser with former President Barack Obama and we all saw,
(09:48):
along with so many other pieces of video footage that
showed cognitive decline and the leader of the free world.
He saw the video of Barack Obama acting like a
caregiver and guiding the president by the hand off stage
(10:08):
and it was a very unseemly, maybe compassionate, but kind
of scary from a national security point of right. And
right after that, it was actually three weeks Clooney does
this op ed, which was no offense. George. I don't
think he wrote it by himself. It seemed like there
(10:30):
were It was.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Like Obama wrote it effort, which.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Is okay, But then he says through the leaks, George
says that it was Obama that talked him into it,
and I imagine that in Hollywood when Barack Obama asks
people to do things, you know, they're kind of programmed,
(10:56):
brainwashed to do that.
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Now stay tuned for more right after this. If you've
never been in politics before, but you feel like I've
really made it in Hollywood and I have a lot
of power. My voice has a lot of power. And
there is an arrogance to somebody who's at the level
that George Clooney is at in Hollywood, because certainly he
is a megastar, right, everybody knows who he is. And
(12:26):
so you have the president meltdown on TV totally in
that debate. But remember the key here is Obama already
knew that's who he was. His staff already knew the
debate was going to be it was going to sink
the ship. They knew he was done. They needed a scapegoat.
(12:47):
They were like, it can't come from the political world.
And you know why it couldn't because you couldn't destroy
anybody on their roster. They couldn't let anybody go down
for this failure being shown. They found somebody who knew
nothing about politics, but was influential enough and arrogant enough
to say, yes, sir, I'll put out the op ed
(13:10):
and they didn't need him. Obama doesn't care about Clooney. Second,
got what I want from you, man, I'm done. That's
who Obama is.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, there's no doubt I mean, and that's what Clooney
hit Clooney. I think his words were, they left me
holding the bag and is Obama retreated back into the
Simpsons bushes and left Cooney standing her to get the backlash.
But the other thing about Hollywood types, You're right about
(13:38):
an arrogance that they developed, but they're underneath that. There's
an insecurity, right, Yes, homes from a feeling and everyone
has this, but Hollywood people have it more than other professions. Basically,
you know, George Clooney other people, right would he says
(14:00):
in front of the camera and he goes in front
of a camera and yeah, you know, he looks cool
and he says things and his acting is okay, and
he gets, you know, tens of millions of dollars in checks,
and he feels guilty.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
He feels how hard you know, he sees how hard
Donald Trump works when he is working at the drive
through at McDonald's and driving a garbage truck.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You know, he sees what ordinary people do, and there's
a guilt and there's a feeling of invalidity. So that
these people in Hollywood are seeking a way to be,
for their lives to have meaning. And where do you
go to seek that? You go? You you need a mission.
(14:50):
So some people they get involved in charities, and that's
a wonderful thing. They raise money for worthy charities. But
others they get involved in the mission of saving America
from Donald Trump. It's a mission, and they become they
turn into Joy Behar's they turn into these caricatures, really,
(15:12):
and they violate a cardinal principle of Hollywood because George
Clooney is a brand, George Cliney lots of money and effort.
There's all kinds of professionals who propped up George Clutney's
image and tried to improve it over the years. And
(15:35):
there are bona fide enterprises that have him under contract
and live off of him, so to speak. And so
they don't want George Clooney involved in controversy.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
They don't like it, right, But George, well, yeah, absolutely,
he's a brand. He is. I mean, it's just like Nike.
There are so many people that are employed by the
George Clooney brand. They certainly can't let them go down.
That's to me that says more about the Democrat Party
and the Obama wing of the Democrat Party than anything else.
They don't care about you personally, and look they don't.
(16:14):
I mean they This is the first time we have
seen in the United States of America a political party
go after their political opponent to this point and try
to not only destroy the person their personality, but literally
take everything from them and put them in jail. I mean,
we have seen them go after individuals in a way
we have never seen a political party attack people. And
(16:37):
they have created this division. I was actually talking to
someone about this the other day and they said, man,
the country's so divided now. And I said, but when
do you think the division started? And they thought back
and they said, I guess it was really when Barack
Obama kept telling us we were all so bad, and
I'm like, but it's stuck. It was good for ratings.
You've got MSNBC that started doing it, you got CNN
(16:59):
that's started doing it, and then it became their brand.
It was more than just Obama's opinion. It became a
brand for the country. The country is somehow bad because
outrage gets ratings, and outrage keeps you there. Because if
you feel good all the time, you're gonna go out
and run. You're gonna jog, you're gonna play tennis. If
you feel miserable, you're locked to the TV. What's the
future going to hold? But it backfired on MSNBC. Now
(17:24):
they seem to be in a bit of a pickle,
don't they.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Well, yeah, I know, it's a good pickle. I mean,
I like seeing them in the pickle. It's funny because
years ago I appeared often on MSNBC. There was this
of course, you know, Tucker Carlson was on that network,
and there was this really fire breathing conservative named Joe
Scarborough had a show. I was on it all the time.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's what people don't know he actually was.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, he was, of course not I wouldn't call him
fire breathing. I just did that, but yeah, for sure.
And MSNBC never really made much money and in terms
of never had a big viewing audience. But all of
a sudden, with the leftist hatred of Donald Trump, Rachel
Maddow began to expand and had a fairly significant audience,
(18:13):
or I think MSNBC would have been spun off a
long time ago. But because it's part of this conglomerate Comcast,
they are spinning it away from the parent company, putting
it in its own entity, which means it has to
have its own investors. And right now, with the way
(18:37):
that the media is trending, the notion of cable news,
cable news is kind of a dying concept, and news
channels like MSNBC and CNN live off of the carriage fees. CNN,
(18:58):
of course, has the airport contracts. They've got that locked up.
You go to any airport areas CNN. But MSNBC gets
bundled so and people know this. If they have cable TV,
there's all these stations that you never watch, but you've
got to pay for in a bundle. So you have
(19:19):
the Diddley Wings Channel and the you know whatever. You know.
Obviously a lot of people don't watch the Golf Channel whatever.
It doesn't fit their interests. And people talk a lot
about a la carte cable and there's a huge demand
for it, but there's too much profit in the carriage fees,
(19:41):
so that these companies want to keep it going. But
young people, people probably below forty, they see through this
and they say, are you crazy. I can stream, I
can go on various free streaming works and get more options,
(20:03):
more choice, and not have to pay for a cable.
Let just get real beefed up Wi Fi. And virtually
every young person I know, that's the way they watch,
and a lot of on demand, a lot of podcasts.
And that's part of the reason, of course that we
saw the results in the election, because the establishment parties
(20:29):
aren't aware of really what's been happening in the media ecosphere.
But fortunately for old Trump, he had a secret advisor
named Baron Trump. Barron knew the Nlka Brothers and these
you know, niche young podcasters, and Trump went on those
(20:54):
shows with the advice of Baron, and that led him
ultimately to go on with the Joe Rogan And then
at the end that last week, which was the most
unbelievable political week in any presidential election, that's the one
that had the McDonald's event, the garbage truck event, and
(21:19):
the endorsement of Joe Rogan, which I think still the guy.
The Kamala Harris campaign is still talking about Joe Rogan
because it bothers them so much that they didn't take
advantage of the invitation that he had an open invitation.
Come on.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I think that she had some really critical errors at
the end of the campaign. It was the dinner in
New York City. She decided not to go to the
dinner and she snubbed the Catholics, and then she had
the Mary Kathleen Catherine Gallagher skit, which was an insult
to the Catholics at the dinner. It was like, could
you how could you make such a critical error? And
(21:56):
at the time we said, this seems like a very
a very big insult, a very big mistake. There's such
a large faction of the country that is.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
A really no who is running that campaign? Yeah, you
just ate it up. I'm reliving it. The Al Smith Dinner,
most important event on the East Coast, but one of
the most important events for Catholic Americans who are a
big part of voting public. And skip it and then
send a video with that snl aluone that nobody cares about.
(22:29):
Who smells their armpits. Yes, a Catholic school girls uniform.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Mocks the Catholics.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Write this stuff. It's like it's like a stand up
comedy act.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
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after this. You know, it's interesting because right now in Michigan,
(24:14):
it's suddenly like all the Democrats are declaring who is
running for a governor. So you've got the mayor of
Detroit that just came out and announced, lifelong Democrat announced
he doesn't want to be beholden to one party because
it's so funny. It's it's like George Clooney, actually so
little knowledge of politics. Really, He's like, I don't want
(24:35):
to be beholden to one party, so I'm running as
an independent. So when I get to lancing, both parties
will work with me. I'm like, don't go for that.
That's a great idea. And then you've got the Democrat
who is a woman here who is all but announcing,
but she's out there. I'm still a Democrat I'm still
a Democrat. But here you had I think it was
(24:57):
really interesting. You saw all these governors going around on
the little bus. One of them was the governor of Michigan,
Gretchen Whitmer, who then gets caught in the Doritos communion
video and that that was bizarre. Same week as the
Al Smith dinner, and we're like, holy cow, they are
just mocking Christianity across the board. So you have that,
(25:19):
and people in Michigan have said, we don't know if
Democrats will go for another woman in office because Whitmer's
been such an embarrassment and Kamala was a disaster. And
then you Tay. You go from that where you make
all the Christians man to the next week where we're
all called the rest of the country is called garbage.
And it's like, how could this be anything but a
(25:42):
divine and.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I'm glad you broke that up because there were
so many people in this country on their knees praying,
including me, especially after going through that pandemic period and
seeing this ex acceptance of totalitarian tactics and censorship and
(26:07):
and using basically our legal institutions to go after people.
I mean, it just was so disturbing. And yeah, we
there definitely was miraculous intervention. It was providential. I mean,
we look at the two assassination attempts, we look at
(26:27):
the it's like it reminds me of a biblical scripture
where God confounds the minds of the enemy. I mean,
that's what it was like, totally Gretchen Whitmer thing. I mean,
it's just they and I you know, I guess they
complete ignorance. They don't understand just how sacred the thing
(26:51):
they're making fun of is. You know, this is my body.
Our Lord says, that is. You can't get any more sacrilegious.
It's like a black mass. She was doing so Yeah,
that that is crazy. And but afterward, I don't know,
I haven't seen any video footage of Gretchen Whitmer changing
(27:11):
her ways. But out here in California we had a
very a video that disturbed a lot of the Democrats
where Gavin Newsom announced that he doesn't want to be
a leader of any particular political party. This guy who's
the most partisan man in the world. He says, no,
I care about Trumps supporters, I care about people who
(27:35):
say they're maga. I'm the leader of all those people,
and he's putting his arms around everyone in California. They
while they continue counting, counting.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Right, and he says he's going he loves them, but
he's going to trump proof his state. I mean this, that.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Have a special session to trump proof.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Which you can't make this stuff up, because I believe so.
I think for Gavin Newsom, the election cycle has already
begun because the election cycle is stretched out further and further. Now.
You know it was that Trump started two years early,
and that was people were like, oh my gosh, now
the election's already started. But like I said, I mean,
we just had an election and somebody already announced for
(28:17):
the twenty six governor's race in Michigan. This is Gavin Newsom.
Notice I said, all those governors got on that bus
and they campaigned for Kamala Harris, who wasn't there Gavin Newsom?
Who did you never see again? After debate night, he
came out he said, I know Joe Biden. I've worked
with him for all these years. He's great, he's great,
(28:38):
he's great. Why because Gavin Newsom wants to run in
four years? He was all on the Biden train. As
soon as Biden got kicked to the curb, he never
said a thing about Kamala. You never saw that he.
I mean, during the Biden campaign, he was in Michigan,
he was everywhere. He was out in the sun, talking
to hugging people, telling him how much he loved him.
(29:00):
The minute he was off the ballot, Gavin Newsom went
back to California, shut the door and waited, waited for
her to lose.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, and I mean and the problem, of course is
when you have these campaigns like Kamala had with two
and a half billion dollars and who knows how much
dark money The fundraising has to start before the November
fifth election, you know, they Gavin Newsom has been running
(29:29):
for president now what for about maybe a year and
a half something like that. I mean, he's been acting
like a presidential candidate. It's it's it's been on the
radar of political writers. And there's no question. You're absolutely right.
He sees himself as presidential. He was very disappointed that
(29:51):
they didn't choose him over Kamala. He thought maybe the
coup would benefit.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Him, right, but they all, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
They couldn't because there was three hundred million dollars in
a war chest that he wouldn't have been able theoretically,
we wouldn't have been able to tackle though, knowing the Democrats.
You know, that's the thing people say, well, politicians, politicians
are dishonest, They're all dishonest. Look at history. Well, I
look at history, and there were moral guard rails even
(30:23):
with politicians. There were lines that they wouldn't cross. As
a matter of fact, the young Joe Biden was busted
by the media for plagiarism and dropped out. In today's world,
plagiarism is like a mosquito bite, right, Exactly, they don't
drop out and so and the Democratic scruples don't exist anymore.
(30:49):
They will do anything, and that's what it's actually frightening.
They have the scruples of a totalitarian communist party hack.
It's you know, they're willing. And that's why the public
will think that any story that attributes an evil act
(31:11):
to the Democratic Party may have some merit because they've
seen it. And especially now James Carvel's griping about this,
the Biden pardon is kind of like the frosting on
the evil cake because everyone sees through it, and even
the Obama people are out publicly criticizing it. You know,
(31:34):
it's because it's so utterly corrupt. The breath and the
scope of the pardon reveals what Biden is really doing,
and he's protecting himself because he's shielding a hunter from
(31:55):
all that barisma stuff that started in twenty fourteen. And
so it's yeah, and there's more of that to come,
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I think there's so much that can't be forgotten. I
think that's a main point. I mean, if you look
at you talk about Gavin Newsom was intending to step in,
and I absolutely think that's true. I think that he
was there because he was the person talking after the debate,
because he figured that if his face were in front
of people, everybody would say, well, why don't we just
hand it to him. He's got this, he understands it,
(32:27):
he gets it. And then you had Gretchen Whitmer, who
released her book that week. I mean, this was It's
so funny to me because they all knew who he was.
Gretchen Whitmer was the co chair of his campaign. They
all knew of his mental decline, they all knew he
wasn't actually going to be the candidate, and They all
knew they had to wait to a certain point to
actually take him off the ballots so that it couldn't
(32:47):
be challenged. They couldn't have all these complaints about it.
They would just barrel into the election. Gretchen Whitmer, she
made a total fool of herself. She had all these
social media kids that said, oh, do these dances, do
this thing with Pritzker, make these little skits, and then
the Darrito thing happened. And I really think that the
internet lives forever. She's done. Politically, she's done. If you
(33:10):
look at her Twitter now, it's very professional. It's posts
about you know, we want to work for you every
single day. You can't come back from what she did.
I mean she might as well have been an only
fans model and then try to come back to politics.
She was so bizarre. It's like, this is a woman
who is toast. She's done. Gavin's so smart.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You got to get that out of my head. Oh okay,
I know, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It's they all did it. They all claim they all
tried to have their little shtick to step in. But
I think the thing that needs to be remembered is
that they knew the American people had no president. They
knew it.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
They hit a secret training like Cringe University where you
love it. I know it because it's just the stuff
that they were doing. It was it made and they
didn't realize how many people it made. Cringe.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
You know, yes, yes, now we see.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I mean James Carrville is disgusted. He wants to audit
the campaign. This guy Charlemagne who calls himself the God,
he's disgusted. I mean, well, the pardon did him in.
And there's so many segments of the Democrat Party and
so many parts of their constituency. And you're right, I
(34:29):
think they haven't just left temporarily. And it's not going
to work if this idea that Democrats say, well, we're
really Centrists, we.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Don't, right, No, And we were upset during COVID when
doctors went out and danced and pretended like they could
be happy in their masks and everything. We thought that
was childish. It wasn't taken seriously. I mean, imagine if
you were at a Fortune five hundred company and the
CEO is posting videos of themselves feeding another woman on
(35:01):
her knees at dorrito, you would go, what is the
company that I'm working for. What is the future of
the company. I mean, she's running the state. You know,
all these people forget And I see it in Congress too,
on both sides of the aisle, where it's it's who
can have the wildest shenanigans and get the most attention.
When did this happen? I mean, politics is not entertainment.
(35:22):
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
George Clooney is the entertainer. He can afford to do
that stuff. He can be cutesy all day long. Women
will fawn all over that, and that's him. His brand
is him. The brand that a governor has is to
be a leader, is to be a servant, is to
be a servant leader. And yet that's not what we're seeing.
But Congress, Senate, all of these positions are very serious.
(35:44):
And today it's like the bigger the clown, the more attention,
the better they think it is. But I think that
this election told people that's not the case. I hope
we start to get back to some of this reason.
But I know that you're going to be following it
no matter what.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, I have to. But it's this thing. We use
the term and we say someone is out of touch.
But when you do, and you this what Gretchen Whitmer did,
she really she can't understand the meaning of what she did.
Gretchen Whitmer is living the equivalent of a Hollywood lifestyle
(36:19):
in a bubble with a bunch of yes people telling her,
you know how wonderful all her ideas are. This is
a great idea. You'll get a lot of free publicity
and you'll help the campaign. I assume somebody said that.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I think that people always also assume that you can
say what certain religions are off limits, but you can
say anything you want about Christianity. And I just think
that Christian said you can, but that doesn't mean we're
going to support you. And I think that was a
big in your face to anybody who thinks that you
can just beat the Christians up. I mean, you know what,
(36:55):
we are loving and we are forgiving, but we don't
forget to forget, and you don't have to vote for
the person who mocks the most sacred. And I think
you make great points and I appreciate you coming on
to share them with us. James Person, thank you so
much for being on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Thank you, tutor.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Great to be with you absolutely, and thank you all
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Have a blessing,
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm excited today I
have James Hearson with me. He is a New York
Times best selling author and international business attorney and weekly
columnist for news Max. But I think the most exciting
part about it is he kind of has a focus
on entertainment politics if that's a thing, which I think
is now officially a thing after this last race. So James,
(00:23):
thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's great to be with you. Tutor, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
For having me absolutely. So I want to get into
what happened in this past race. And I know people
are like, oh, we're on to the next. I mean,
it really is funny how politics works, because literally six
hours into the Wednesday after election day, I had people
calling me and they're like, okay, so let's talk about
twenty six And I was like, what we just won?
And oh no, that race is over. We're moving on,
(00:50):
you know. But people outside of politics don't really understand
how it works. And so we saw something really kind
of beautiful happen where Hollywood came around Joe Biden and
then they were told not to. And George Clooney is
feeling the burn of that isn't he Absolutely, But I want.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
To I want to mention you said something about people
want to move out. You have to remember, I'm in California.
We're still counting, counting as we count until the Democrat
candidate wins, don't you know, And so yes, it's not
over here. But in reference to Hollywood, you know, the
(01:29):
people in Hollywood, they've really always I've been covering them
for longer than I want to say. Uh, And I've
been in the industry because I'm an entertainment lawyer and
I represent these people, some of them who still work
with me, and they're they're just the industry is a
different kind of industry. It's super vicious. The people here
(01:54):
live in a special kind of bubble. You know, there
are bubbles all over the country. The biggest ones, of course,
we know, are on the East Coast, like especially in Manhattan,
and then of course in San Francisco and Los Angeles.
People really believe that those that they interface with, you know,
(02:15):
when they work at Disney, they think all these woke
people that they work with are America. They're shocked when
they find out that positions that are anti family, anti woman,
anti child, anti god, anti semit that these positions aren't
(02:37):
really popular, you know, and also pro censorship, high crime,
high prices for a support or all that because everyone
around them justifies and rationalizes supporting the left, supporting the
Democrat Party, and so they really live a distorted life.
(02:58):
So therefore the past election was it was more than
a shock. It was it was interdimensional shock, you know.
There these are people who normally go to gurus. Maybe
sometimes they go to a psychologist, but they go to
like new age gurus and scientology practition.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So unlike anything we know, right, and you.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Couldn't go because they were all booked up after the election.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Soub tramatized. Rob Reiner checked himself into a rehab facility
and eliminated his ex account and he's just you know,
and he's a mild case.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh no, I see all of these. I see all
of these celebrities, and like the left wing political celebrities too,
even in our state, our local you know, people that
would consider consider themselves local celebrities, like the local state
reps who most people actually don't know, but they think
they're celebrities. They've gone out on X and they've been
(04:02):
like follow me on Blue Sky and it makes me
laugh because I'm like, it's never going to happen. Like,
that's not going to happen, that you guys are going
to create a new social media you know, people have
trying to kill X for years. It's not happening.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They should have named it fetch, you know, I mean,
it's of course it's not going to happen. You know,
there's some troll people on the right or were going
on the Blue Sky and just for fun, they post
there are two genders, a man and a woman, and
they immediately get kicked off the site.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You know, I know, I love it. That's what I
think is so funny. I'm like, who, okay, So really,
what you're saying is you just want to be in
a place that's going to tell you exactly what you
want to hear. I want to stay in my bubble.
That's what this message is. Please leave me in my bubble.
I don't want to know what the rest of the world,
or at least the rest of the country is. Like,
I mean, I was on Newsmax and they were talking
(05:00):
I didn't even see this clip of Joy Behar, who
was like, I don't I had the opportunity. She says,
I had the opportunity to sit down with George Bush
and talk to him, and I refuse to do it
because I thought, what if I liked him? What if
I ended up having a cup of coffee with him
or a beer and I really enjoyed the conversation, and
(05:20):
there are a lot of nasty things I want to
say about him, So I didn't even do it. I thought, well,
of course, you will never come to see the other
side as human if you refuse to do human things
with them.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Absolutely, I mean that is so I actually feel sad
for her.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I want to, really, I want.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
To pray for her, because that's and how boring is
life if it's a bunch of people who have no debates,
no disagreements, no discussions, no challenges, and everyone agrees with you.
And really the truth is, of course none of these
star people can stand that they get right board because
(06:04):
they all have the really big stars have an entourage.
There was even an HBO show called Entourage and it's
it's a dangerous thing, but they have a bunch of
yes persons. Yes, oh, you're a genius. So that's a
great idea for a song. That's a great If you
have too many of those people, your career ends.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Because but I also think that if you are used
to that, if you're used to that in the in
Hollywood like that could kind of fly in Hollywood. In politics,
eventually you get busted. And I think that's what happened
in George Clooney.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, yeah, and in George Clooney's case, you know, he
still has a big entourage, still is a big star.
And the interesting thing these reports about Clooney and him
and his bromance with Obama ending come through unnamed sources,
and this is the way a lot of these stars operate.
(07:03):
So I don't know this for sure, but I would
bet that Clooney's behind the leaks because he's so frustrated
and he wants the message to be worded right. He
probably talked to his publicist, because there's an unnamed source
that went to the Daily Mail, there's another one that
(07:24):
went to Radar Online, another one I think went to
National Inquirer. And I mean, I can't believe all these
leaks just happened to come out, you know, just when
cloonyes realized and he's right by the way that he
was put right in the center of a target. Right
(07:45):
at the time after the election, when people were pointing
fingers of blame, wanting to find a person to blame,
there was Coony taking all this backlash on social media
because is what and you say, you know, George Clooney,
who is a talented person, he developed, an amazing persona
(08:09):
came from a sitcom and becomes you know where critics
compare him to Carry Grant and all this. I don't
think he's a Cary Grant and I don't think he
does either, but he is. He's a great screen presence.
Even now, Why would you go and write an op
ed in the New York Times and put yourself out
(08:32):
to be the lead guy, the lead celebrity, to perform
something evil, unethical, anti democratic, trying to be part of
a group that's going to force a sitting president who
already basically has the nomination to step down so that
a person that didn't face any kind of electoral consequences whatsoever,
(08:59):
just walts is in it becomes a nominee first time
in American history. Why would Clooney do that? Well, you know,
the courts are that after that fundraiser, mainly, first of way,
there was a debate if you recall that, where you know,
Biden just fell apart, decombusted on the air. It was
(09:23):
just a very embarrassing for the Democrats. And I think
the first calls for him to get out came from Hollywood.
There were people on Twitter, you know, the big mouths
like Stephen King and Rob Reiner and those people. But
for Clooney to be the lead guy. He was at
a fundraiser with former President Barack Obama and we all saw,
(09:48):
along with so many other pieces of video footage that
showed cognitive decline and the leader of the free world.
He saw the video of Barack Obama acting like a
caregiver and guiding the president by the hand off stage
(10:08):
and it was a very unseemly, maybe compassionate, but kind
of scary from a national security point of right. And
right after that, it was actually three weeks Clooney does
this op ed, which was no offense. George. I don't
think he wrote it by himself. It seemed like there
(10:30):
were It was.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Like Obama wrote it effort, which.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Is okay, But then he says through the leaks, George
says that it was Obama that talked him into it,
and I imagine that in Hollywood when Barack Obama asks
people to do things, you know, they're kind of programmed,
(10:56):
brainwashed to do that.
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Now stay tuned for more right after this. If you've
never been in politics before, but you feel like I've
really made it in Hollywood and I have a lot
of power. My voice has a lot of power. And
there is an arrogance to somebody who's at the level
that George Clooney is at in Hollywood, because certainly he
is a megastar, right, everybody knows who he is. And
(12:26):
so you have the president meltdown on TV totally in
that debate. But remember the key here is Obama already
knew that's who he was. His staff already knew the
debate was going to be it was going to sink
the ship. They knew he was done. They needed a scapegoat.
(12:47):
They were like, it can't come from the political world.
And you know why it couldn't because you couldn't destroy
anybody on their roster. They couldn't let anybody go down
for this failure being shown. They found somebody who knew
nothing about politics, but was influential enough and arrogant enough
to say, yes, sir, I'll put out the op ed
(13:10):
and they didn't need him. Obama doesn't care about Clooney. Second,
got what I want from you, man, I'm done. That's
who Obama is.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, there's no doubt I mean, and that's what Clooney
hit Clooney. I think his words were, they left me
holding the bag and is Obama retreated back into the
Simpsons bushes and left Cooney standing her to get the backlash.
But the other thing about Hollywood types, You're right about
(13:38):
an arrogance that they developed, but they're underneath that. There's
an insecurity, right, Yes, homes from a feeling and everyone
has this, but Hollywood people have it more than other professions. Basically,
you know, George Clooney other people, right would he says
(14:00):
in front of the camera and he goes in front
of a camera and yeah, you know, he looks cool
and he says things and his acting is okay, and
he gets, you know, tens of millions of dollars in checks,
and he feels guilty.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
He feels how hard you know, he sees how hard
Donald Trump works when he is working at the drive
through at McDonald's and driving a garbage truck.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You know, he sees what ordinary people do, and there's
a guilt and there's a feeling of invalidity. So that
these people in Hollywood are seeking a way to be,
for their lives to have meaning. And where do you
go to seek that? You go? You you need a mission.
(14:50):
So some people they get involved in charities, and that's
a wonderful thing. They raise money for worthy charities. But
others they get involved in the mission of saving America
from Donald Trump. It's a mission, and they become they
turn into Joy Behar's they turn into these caricatures, really,
(15:12):
and they violate a cardinal principle of Hollywood because George
Clooney is a brand, George Cliney lots of money and effort.
There's all kinds of professionals who propped up George Clutney's
image and tried to improve it over the years. And
(15:35):
there are bona fide enterprises that have him under contract
and live off of him, so to speak. And so
they don't want George Clooney involved in controversy.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
They don't like it, right, But George, well, yeah, absolutely,
he's a brand. He is. I mean, it's just like Nike.
There are so many people that are employed by the
George Clooney brand. They certainly can't let them go down.
That's to me that says more about the Democrat Party
and the Obama wing of the Democrat Party than anything else.
They don't care about you personally, and look they don't.
(16:14):
I mean they This is the first time we have
seen in the United States of America a political party
go after their political opponent to this point and try
to not only destroy the person their personality, but literally
take everything from them and put them in jail. I mean,
we have seen them go after individuals in a way
we have never seen a political party attack people. And
(16:37):
they have created this division. I was actually talking to
someone about this the other day and they said, man,
the country's so divided now. And I said, but when
do you think the division started? And they thought back
and they said, I guess it was really when Barack
Obama kept telling us we were all so bad, and
I'm like, but it's stuck. It was good for ratings.
You've got MSNBC that started doing it, you got CNN
(16:59):
that's started doing it, and then it became their brand.
It was more than just Obama's opinion. It became a
brand for the country. The country is somehow bad because
outrage gets ratings, and outrage keeps you there. Because if
you feel good all the time, you're gonna go out
and run. You're gonna jog, you're gonna play tennis. If
you feel miserable, you're locked to the TV. What's the
future going to hold? But it backfired on MSNBC. Now
(17:24):
they seem to be in a bit of a pickle,
don't they.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Well, yeah, I know, it's a good pickle. I mean,
I like seeing them in the pickle. It's funny because
years ago I appeared often on MSNBC. There was this
of course, you know, Tucker Carlson was on that network,
and there was this really fire breathing conservative named Joe
Scarborough had a show. I was on it all the time.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's what people don't know he actually was.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, he was, of course not I wouldn't call him
fire breathing. I just did that, but yeah, for sure.
And MSNBC never really made much money and in terms
of never had a big viewing audience. But all of
a sudden, with the leftist hatred of Donald Trump, Rachel
Maddow began to expand and had a fairly significant audience,
(18:13):
or I think MSNBC would have been spun off a
long time ago. But because it's part of this conglomerate Comcast,
they are spinning it away from the parent company, putting
it in its own entity, which means it has to
have its own investors. And right now, with the way
(18:37):
that the media is trending, the notion of cable news,
cable news is kind of a dying concept, and news
channels like MSNBC and CNN live off of the carriage fees. CNN,
(18:58):
of course, has the airport contracts. They've got that locked up.
You go to any airport areas CNN. But MSNBC gets
bundled so and people know this. If they have cable TV,
there's all these stations that you never watch, but you've
got to pay for in a bundle. So you have
(19:19):
the Diddley Wings Channel and the you know whatever. You know.
Obviously a lot of people don't watch the Golf Channel whatever.
It doesn't fit their interests. And people talk a lot
about a la carte cable and there's a huge demand
for it, but there's too much profit in the carriage fees,
(19:41):
so that these companies want to keep it going. But
young people, people probably below forty, they see through this
and they say, are you crazy. I can stream, I
can go on various free streaming works and get more options,
(20:03):
more choice, and not have to pay for a cable.
Let just get real beefed up Wi Fi. And virtually
every young person I know, that's the way they watch,
and a lot of on demand, a lot of podcasts.
And that's part of the reason, of course that we
saw the results in the election, because the establishment parties
(20:29):
aren't aware of really what's been happening in the media ecosphere.
But fortunately for old Trump, he had a secret advisor
named Baron Trump. Barron knew the Nlka Brothers and these
you know, niche young podcasters, and Trump went on those
(20:54):
shows with the advice of Baron, and that led him
ultimately to go on with the Joe Rogan And then
at the end that last week, which was the most
unbelievable political week in any presidential election, that's the one
that had the McDonald's event, the garbage truck event, and
(21:19):
the endorsement of Joe Rogan, which I think still the guy.
The Kamala Harris campaign is still talking about Joe Rogan
because it bothers them so much that they didn't take
advantage of the invitation that he had an open invitation.
Come on.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I think that she had some really critical errors at
the end of the campaign. It was the dinner in
New York City. She decided not to go to the
dinner and she snubbed the Catholics, and then she had
the Mary Kathleen Catherine Gallagher skit, which was an insult
to the Catholics at the dinner. It was like, could
you how could you make such a critical error? And
(21:56):
at the time we said, this seems like a very
a very big insult, a very big mistake. There's such
a large faction of the country that is.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
A really no who is running that campaign? Yeah, you
just ate it up. I'm reliving it. The Al Smith Dinner,
most important event on the East Coast, but one of
the most important events for Catholic Americans who are a
big part of voting public. And skip it and then
send a video with that snl aluone that nobody cares about.
(22:29):
Who smells their armpits. Yes, a Catholic school girls uniform.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Mocks the Catholics.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Write this stuff. It's like it's like a stand up
comedy act.
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it's suddenly like all the Democrats are declaring who is
running for a governor. So you've got the mayor of
Detroit that just came out and announced, lifelong Democrat announced
he doesn't want to be beholden to one party because
it's so funny. It's it's like George Clooney, actually so
little knowledge of politics. Really, He's like, I don't want
(24:35):
to be beholden to one party, so I'm running as
an independent. So when I get to lancing, both parties
will work with me. I'm like, don't go for that.
That's a great idea. And then you've got the Democrat
who is a woman here who is all but announcing,
but she's out there. I'm still a Democrat I'm still
a Democrat. But here you had I think it was
(24:57):
really interesting. You saw all these governors going around on
the little bus. One of them was the governor of Michigan,
Gretchen Whitmer, who then gets caught in the Doritos communion
video and that that was bizarre. Same week as the
Al Smith dinner, and we're like, holy cow, they are
just mocking Christianity across the board. So you have that,
(25:19):
and people in Michigan have said, we don't know if
Democrats will go for another woman in office because Whitmer's
been such an embarrassment and Kamala was a disaster. And
then you Tay. You go from that where you make
all the Christians man to the next week where we're
all called the rest of the country is called garbage.
And it's like, how could this be anything but a
(25:42):
divine and.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I'm glad you broke that up because there were
so many people in this country on their knees praying,
including me, especially after going through that pandemic period and
seeing this ex acceptance of totalitarian tactics and censorship and
(26:07):
and using basically our legal institutions to go after people.
I mean, it just was so disturbing. And yeah, we
there definitely was miraculous intervention. It was providential. I mean,
we look at the two assassination attempts, we look at
(26:27):
the it's like it reminds me of a biblical scripture
where God confounds the minds of the enemy. I mean,
that's what it was like, totally Gretchen Whitmer thing. I mean,
it's just they and I you know, I guess they
complete ignorance. They don't understand just how sacred the thing
(26:51):
they're making fun of is. You know, this is my body.
Our Lord says, that is. You can't get any more sacrilegious.
It's like a black mass. She was doing so Yeah,
that that is crazy. And but afterward, I don't know,
I haven't seen any video footage of Gretchen Whitmer changing
(27:11):
her ways. But out here in California we had a
very a video that disturbed a lot of the Democrats
where Gavin Newsom announced that he doesn't want to be
a leader of any particular political party. This guy who's
the most partisan man in the world. He says, no,
I care about Trumps supporters, I care about people who
(27:35):
say they're maga. I'm the leader of all those people,
and he's putting his arms around everyone in California. They
while they continue counting, counting.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Right, and he says he's going he loves them, but
he's going to trump proof his state. I mean this, that.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Have a special session to trump proof.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Which you can't make this stuff up, because I believe so.
I think for Gavin Newsom, the election cycle has already
begun because the election cycle is stretched out further and further. Now.
You know it was that Trump started two years early,
and that was people were like, oh my gosh, now
the election's already started. But like I said, I mean,
we just had an election and somebody already announced for
(28:17):
the twenty six governor's race in Michigan. This is Gavin Newsom.
Notice I said, all those governors got on that bus
and they campaigned for Kamala Harris, who wasn't there Gavin Newsom?
Who did you never see again? After debate night, he
came out he said, I know Joe Biden. I've worked
with him for all these years. He's great, he's great,
(28:38):
he's great. Why because Gavin Newsom wants to run in
four years? He was all on the Biden train. As
soon as Biden got kicked to the curb, he never
said a thing about Kamala. You never saw that he.
I mean, during the Biden campaign, he was in Michigan,
he was everywhere. He was out in the sun, talking
to hugging people, telling him how much he loved him.
(29:00):
The minute he was off the ballot, Gavin Newsom went
back to California, shut the door and waited, waited for
her to lose.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, and I mean and the problem, of course is
when you have these campaigns like Kamala had with two
and a half billion dollars and who knows how much
dark money The fundraising has to start before the November
fifth election, you know, they Gavin Newsom has been running
(29:29):
for president now what for about maybe a year and
a half something like that. I mean, he's been acting
like a presidential candidate. It's it's it's been on the
radar of political writers. And there's no question. You're absolutely right.
He sees himself as presidential. He was very disappointed that
(29:51):
they didn't choose him over Kamala. He thought maybe the
coup would benefit.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Him, right, but they all, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
They couldn't because there was three hundred million dollars in
a war chest that he wouldn't have been able theoretically,
we wouldn't have been able to tackle though, knowing the Democrats.
You know, that's the thing people say, well, politicians, politicians
are dishonest, They're all dishonest. Look at history. Well, I
look at history, and there were moral guard rails even
(30:23):
with politicians. There were lines that they wouldn't cross. As
a matter of fact, the young Joe Biden was busted
by the media for plagiarism and dropped out. In today's world,
plagiarism is like a mosquito bite, right, Exactly, they don't
drop out and so and the Democratic scruples don't exist anymore.
(30:49):
They will do anything, and that's what it's actually frightening.
They have the scruples of a totalitarian communist party hack.
It's you know, they're willing. And that's why the public
will think that any story that attributes an evil act
(31:11):
to the Democratic Party may have some merit because they've
seen it. And especially now James Carvel's griping about this,
the Biden pardon is kind of like the frosting on
the evil cake because everyone sees through it, and even
the Obama people are out publicly criticizing it. You know,
(31:34):
it's because it's so utterly corrupt. The breath and the
scope of the pardon reveals what Biden is really doing,
and he's protecting himself because he's shielding a hunter from
(31:55):
all that barisma stuff that started in twenty fourteen. And
so it's yeah, and there's more of that to come,
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I think there's so much that can't be forgotten. I
think that's a main point. I mean, if you look
at you talk about Gavin Newsom was intending to step in,
and I absolutely think that's true. I think that he
was there because he was the person talking after the debate,
because he figured that if his face were in front
of people, everybody would say, well, why don't we just
hand it to him. He's got this, he understands it,
(32:27):
he gets it. And then you had Gretchen Whitmer, who
released her book that week. I mean, this was It's
so funny to me because they all knew who he was.
Gretchen Whitmer was the co chair of his campaign. They
all knew of his mental decline, they all knew he
wasn't actually going to be the candidate, and They all
knew they had to wait to a certain point to
actually take him off the ballots so that it couldn't
(32:47):
be challenged. They couldn't have all these complaints about it.
They would just barrel into the election. Gretchen Whitmer, she
made a total fool of herself. She had all these
social media kids that said, oh, do these dances, do
this thing with Pritzker, make these little skits, and then
the Darrito thing happened. And I really think that the
internet lives forever. She's done. Politically, she's done. If you
(33:10):
look at her Twitter now, it's very professional. It's posts
about you know, we want to work for you every
single day. You can't come back from what she did.
I mean she might as well have been an only
fans model and then try to come back to politics.
She was so bizarre. It's like, this is a woman
who is toast. She's done. Gavin's so smart.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You got to get that out of my head. Oh okay,
I know, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It's they all did it. They all claim they all
tried to have their little shtick to step in. But
I think the thing that needs to be remembered is
that they knew the American people had no president. They
knew it.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
They hit a secret training like Cringe University where you
love it. I know it because it's just the stuff
that they were doing. It was it made and they
didn't realize how many people it made. Cringe.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
You know, yes, yes, now we see.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I mean James Carrville is disgusted. He wants to audit
the campaign. This guy Charlemagne who calls himself the God,
he's disgusted. I mean, well, the pardon did him in.
And there's so many segments of the Democrat Party and
so many parts of their constituency. And you're right, I
(34:29):
think they haven't just left temporarily. And it's not going
to work if this idea that Democrats say, well, we're
really Centrists, we.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Don't, right, No, And we were upset during COVID when
doctors went out and danced and pretended like they could
be happy in their masks and everything. We thought that
was childish. It wasn't taken seriously. I mean, imagine if
you were at a Fortune five hundred company and the
CEO is posting videos of themselves feeding another woman on
(35:01):
her knees at dorrito, you would go, what is the
company that I'm working for. What is the future of
the company. I mean, she's running the state. You know,
all these people forget And I see it in Congress too,
on both sides of the aisle, where it's it's who
can have the wildest shenanigans and get the most attention.
When did this happen? I mean, politics is not entertainment.
(35:22):
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
George Clooney is the entertainer. He can afford to do
that stuff. He can be cutesy all day long. Women
will fawn all over that, and that's him. His brand
is him. The brand that a governor has is to
be a leader, is to be a servant, is to
be a servant leader. And yet that's not what we're seeing.
But Congress, Senate, all of these positions are very serious.
(35:44):
And today it's like the bigger the clown, the more attention,
the better they think it is. But I think that
this election told people that's not the case. I hope
we start to get back to some of this reason.
But I know that you're going to be following it
no matter what.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, I have to. But it's this thing. We use
the term and we say someone is out of touch.
But when you do, and you this what Gretchen Whitmer did,
she really she can't understand the meaning of what she did.
Gretchen Whitmer is living the equivalent of a Hollywood lifestyle
(36:19):
in a bubble with a bunch of yes people telling her,
you know how wonderful all her ideas are. This is
a great idea. You'll get a lot of free publicity
and you'll help the campaign. I assume somebody said that.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I think that people always also assume that you can
say what certain religions are off limits, but you can
say anything you want about Christianity. And I just think
that Christian said you can, but that doesn't mean we're
going to support you. And I think that was a
big in your face to anybody who thinks that you
can just beat the Christians up. I mean, you know what,
(36:55):
we are loving and we are forgiving, but we don't
forget to forget, and you don't have to vote for
the person who mocks the most sacred. And I think
you make great points and I appreciate you coming on
to share them with us. James Person, thank you so
much for being on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Thank you, tutor.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Great to be with you absolutely, and thank you all
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